1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Heckma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: It is time for the Players loundes right here on 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming. 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: We've got a special guest with us. He is mister 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: forth DeLong, North Carolina National champion. He is Jesse Holly 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: filling in for Barry Church. Mister Holly, former Cowboys special 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Teamy wide receiver, appreciate you being here like you Hem 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: Harrison and me Newie Scruggs. As the Cowboys are getting 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: closer to their Monday night game against the Cincinnati Bengals, 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 3: the line has dropped five and a half. Yes, and 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: big news coming out of the Star today from head 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: coach Mike McCarthy, Zach Martin is going to have season 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: ending ankle surgery. Here Heckma, your thoughts. 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: Damn it, man, this has been that kind of year 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: every I mean, you're losing guys, You're losing key players, 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: and in those twelve and five seasons. 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: Man, I think we just got spoiled. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: The Cowboys were really lucky to have their health in 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: those seasons, man, and that's why you would have expected 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: them to make a deeper run into the playoffs because 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: of the injuries. But losing a guy like Zach Martin, 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: it can't be good. You've lost Michael Parsons for parts 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: of the year for a very long time, Dak is gone, 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: So I mean this team has been beat to hell, 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: and you lose a piece like Zach Martin, man, that 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: is that is a hard thing. And then really just 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: the cherry on type top to the type of season 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: that the Cowboys have had. 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: I feel worse for the person. Like I know that 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 5: the team lost yeah of their best offensive linemen. I 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 5: feel bad for the person because no way, shape or 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: form that in the mind frame and the mindset that 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: the mind thinking of Zach Martin that he think his 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 5: career ultimately would end on the ir you know, And 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: there has been talks and I'm leaning like every most 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 5: people thinking that this the end of the road. This 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 5: it for him, This it for him, because when you 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: start talking about and thinking about that retirement. 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: Happened and It sucks. 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 5: It absolutely sucks because the compassionate person in me, the 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: empathetic person in me, goes, boy, you would have liked 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 5: for that dude to have all of the individual accolades. 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 5: But also to say, boy, I did some other magical 49 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 5: things in the playoffs. I got to a super Bowl. 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 5: I did some pretty special things. But he'll end his 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 5: career and it will be start the clock. It'll be 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 5: start to clock the canton and uh and see how 53 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: this thing pans out for him. 54 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: But I mean, with an incredible career for a guy 55 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: like Zach, I don't mean to be putting dirt on 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: them already, but you know the writings on the wall 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: for for who he is as a player I was 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: sending the other show. Now, I'm not saying that he 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: completely dead because if for some odd reason, the Joneses 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: decide and this offseason that's not their forte. 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 5: But they were resetting this year to get some more money. 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: If they go and grab a couple of them high 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: level free agents, like you know, the ones that you know, 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: the ones that come out early, you know, you know 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: talking about the ones though day one ones, the ones 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: that actually come into your team and make a significant. 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: Difference in the game changes. 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: They're gonna grab a few of those and some draft picks, 69 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 5: and now O. 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: Martin may say, you know what, see you guys in oxygen? 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Are you gotting? Are you in? Are are you in? 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: Or you're out on that? 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 6: What? 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: What? What would stop him? 75 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: Rock hoffmin ain't stopping him if he wanted to come 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: back for So if he looks up and he goes, oh, 77 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 5: Jerry playing again, I'm gonna stay out here on this 78 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: ranch and it's tend of these horses and playing with 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: my kids on they off days and do all that stuff. 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: But if you look up and go, hold on now, 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 5: oh he signed him, Oh we got him too, hold 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 5: on now, let me see, let me see if they so. 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: Then let me throw this at you. As a player, 84 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: when you get to that point time and you say, man, 85 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: I watch the tape and I see me and that's 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: not who I have been before. When does that hit 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: you and you can look at it and say that 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: ain't me. We always are the last ones to know. 89 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: And that's the reason why you there's very few people 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 3: who get this ceremoniously walk away. Most of the time. 91 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: Most of the time they kick you out because we're 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: the last ones to know. 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: We always think, but. 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: If I can, just if we just if we do it, 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 5: I get and you don't have it right, And we're 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 5: the last ones to know. And for him, he may 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: look at the tape and go, well, I'm healthy now. 98 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 5: I've been dealing with these two bone these bone spurs 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: and his ankle, and I'm you know, i ain't had 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 5: to deal with no all season stuff. 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm fresh now. No da da da. You know I've 102 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: been here, these these kids making a lot of noise, right, 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: these kids, you. 104 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 5: Having a lot, you know, the missus ain't. I ain't 105 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 5: never had a honey do list. I ain't never had 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 5: a honey do list. I didn't know she talked this 107 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: damn much. Yeah, hey, coach, what y'all are? 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: What y'all doing? Because because she, oh, this is what 109 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: you do all day when I in right, because you 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: one thing about retirement, you have to you have to 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: interject yourself back into the normal life of the family. 112 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: Got the other way around. 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: They've been functioning a certain way your ten years that 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: you've been in the league. You gotta now find yourself 115 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: back today. And that might not be where you want 116 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: to be. 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: So stay here on the player, having an understanding of 118 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: it's not what I used to be. Just right here. 119 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: You check the media guy and where they have your name, 120 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: and then they start to list your Pro bowls. So 121 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: Zachmartin Pro Bowl twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, 123 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. There will not be one there for 124 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So twenty twenty and twenty twenty fourth 125 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: they are not going to be there. And both those 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: were injury seasons, right yes, In twenty twenty he was 127 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: limited to ten games, missing games with injuries, despite his flexibility, 128 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: starting two games at right tackle for the first time 129 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: in his pro career. Remember that was the year that 130 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: McCarthy's first year they had Mike Nolan. There was a 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: whole bunch of struggles right there. So two times in 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: his career he will miss the making the Pro Bowl. 133 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: How much does that tell you, Hey, you know what, 134 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: let's finish this. 135 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 5: You know what I see twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, 136 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 5: twenty seven, I. 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Don't see twenty twenty and twenty twenty four as a player, 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: I don't. 139 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: I go, there's a reason for that. 140 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: Inside of me is still twenty fifteen, twenty, seventeen, twenty like, 141 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like the twenty twenty, twenty 142 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: twenty four, those are outliers. I go, there's a lot 143 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: more of. 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: The fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty one, twenty two, 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: twenty three than it is the twenty twenty, the twenty 146 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 5: twenty four. Like, that's the mentality that athletes have. And 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 5: so we try to figure out how to what can 148 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 5: I I can get back. I could do one more time. 149 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: I can get back to one of those things, one 150 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: more time. 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: I have enough knowledge, you know, if I could just 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: stay healthy, right, I could just stay healthy. I can 153 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: I can still do this. I can still. 154 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: Do this at a high rate. But again, we're always 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: the last ones to know. And then you commit to 156 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: him and he gets out there, and then he's halfway 157 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: through and he goes, oh, that young boy across from me, 158 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: real good. He's big, strongly fast, and my techniques don't 159 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: work no more. 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: And I don't. 161 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: I'm not as reactive as I once was before. And 162 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 5: then that's when they kind of go they go, yeah, bro, 163 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: he go, yeah. 164 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: I know that's you know, hey, the bad news is 165 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: in two years, Jalen Carter is going to be unblockable. 166 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: That's the bad news. 167 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: You got guys in the league gets get bigger and 168 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: faster and stronger, and you don't. 169 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: Get away from him. In Division Sexy Dex. 170 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: He ain't going over there. 171 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: Carter ain't going nowhere, Washington. The bad boys be back 172 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: full strength again next year. So you got those young boys, 173 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 5: you gotta look across from and go I used to. 174 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: I used to dominate this league. 175 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 5: And now these young boys looking at me like you 176 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 5: fool man, you fool, come here, come here, come in, 177 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: come here, o man. 178 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: Let me get a little piece of that. So eleven years, 179 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: eleven years of outstanding football, and this is my opinion. Heck, Jesse, 180 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: please tell me yours. The question to me, now, is 181 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: he a not if he's going in the Hall of Fame, 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: it's going in the Hall of Fame. You look at 183 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: he's a guard. You look at other guards and the 184 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: statistics and everything. Zach is right there. Is it your 185 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Fame? That to me is the 186 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: only question at this point in time, is going into 187 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame. He has a credential. Is 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: it first ballanty? 189 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: To me? 190 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: I just I think you look at his career and 191 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: obviously you're gonna judge him against those guards that are 192 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame Right now, without having a 193 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: list on there, I can just say off the top 194 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: of my dome that he is comparable to some of 195 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: the greats that are played in the game. Some of 196 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: the questions that are going to be asked is obviously 197 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: super Bowls and things of that nature. I think those 198 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: you know, if you criticize him based off of that, 199 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: that's your own choice. But as a offensive lineman in 200 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: this league, no one is dominated the way that Zach 201 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: Martin has. I mean, the enforcer for the offensive line 202 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: for the Dallas Cowboys for years on end. 203 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's the tough question. 204 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: Is the guys that you believe were great that did 205 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: not get in on the first ballot. So the argument 206 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: can be made, but there are other arguments to be made. 207 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: D Ware didn't get in on the first ballot. Yeah, 208 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: there are other names that didn't get in, you know, 209 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Fame that had to that should have. 210 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: I think first ballot. I think when you start looking 211 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 5: how those lists, because it's always you know what, guys 212 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 5: that we're still trying to get in, right, you know 213 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, that that may cover the spot that 214 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 5: may keep you out for being the first ballot Hall 215 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: of Famer. And I think we've come We've come to 216 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: a list where the seventies, eighties, those ninety guys that 217 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: we've kind of got those pretty much they're in in, 218 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like, so that list, the 219 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 5: list of guys who are waiting to get in isn't 220 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: as robust as it once was. And I think when 221 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: you look at his resume, I mean, this is a 222 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 5: guy who for nine seasons he's had more Pro like 223 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: his first couple n here more Pro Bowls than he 224 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 5: had holding because that's insane. He's like yeah, like like 225 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 5: he is. He is a to me, a first ballot 226 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: of Hall of Famer. When his time comes, it's just 227 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: now how long will it, like will he prolonge five 228 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 5: more years at another year to try to come back, 229 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 5: or he says, let's tart to clock this offseason and 230 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 5: all decade player. And I think when you talk about that, 231 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: and just in having talked to some Hall of Fame voters, 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 5: they all talk about the Zach Martin is up there 233 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: with will Shields. 234 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: He's out there with gene upshot. When you talk about 235 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: the greatest ever at the position of guard that he's 236 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 3: in there com like you know, they're they're gonna come 237 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: over to the table, Come on you right now. That's 238 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: why I said, for me, in another hall, like Dion, 239 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: I know that who. 240 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: Who I think it is, we. 241 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 5: Ad the same table. He might be able to say, 242 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: how we all at the same table is a different 243 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 5: table in the same deal. We got different views. Yes, yes, 244 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: you know I mean Zach Martin. Nego tells that. 245 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: Come on to the sit down here. And that's why 246 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: I say the question is not about being in the 247 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame for Zach Martins, whether or not he's 248 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: a first ballot. And for me, when I think of 249 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: first ballot, that's a guy that when we sit there, hey, 250 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, he was him when he played that, 251 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: he was him. And you know that's the I'm old 252 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: enough to remember the Senior Bowl practice when it was 253 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald against Zach Martin, and down in Mobile, Alabama, 254 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: people were like Yeah, these two dudes are good. Epic 255 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: and Zach wash he was the MVP of the Yankee 256 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: Bowl for Notre Dame Bowl Game. A left tackle who's 257 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: an MVP of the bowl game. That's one that sticks 258 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: out to me. But I think what I'll always remember 259 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: it's maybe some people have forgotten this because it's how 260 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: time works. We forget things. People who thought that Cowboys 261 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: were gonna draft Johnny Manzilus that night. I was just 262 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: about to ask thats room was buzzy? We were we 263 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: had because normally news producers don't get involved in the sports, 264 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: but it was draft night and it's down there and 265 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: it's about to happen, and I have my executive producer. 266 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: She's like, we're ready to lead with this. If it's Johnny, 267 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: we're about to make our whole show. 268 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: Johnny. 269 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: People already made the font, they've already went the trouble that. 270 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: I'm about to be the lead of the newscat. We're 271 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: about to go deep on Johnny Fief Johnny football coming 272 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: to the Cowboys. And I thought it was happening because 273 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: I remember going to that Cotton Bowl game when they 274 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: dusted up Oklahoma. How the seats were full of Jerry 275 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: was excited, man, people buying all the money. It was 276 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: all about Johnny. I said, it's about to happen, so 277 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm ready to do this thing. And they don't do it, 278 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: and they draft Zach Martin and they're like, who's Zach 279 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: mart all right? He was MVP of Bowl. Get yeah, 280 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: and tackle for nor Day. He's a good player. I 281 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: didn't know he was that good. Nor did I know 282 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald was that good. 283 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. Nobody watching, but like, no, he 284 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: can help. 285 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: But it was also Zach Martin and Aaron Donald in practice, yes, 286 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 5: in that Senior Bowl. Then the Cowboys training training. Yes, yeah, 287 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: they went total to in practice again, tossing each other. 288 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: I mean it was great, great, But that for me 289 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: is my lives. 290 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean, man, I remember sitting, okay, get my makeup on, 291 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: it's about to happen. Jerry, like, Jerry can't. I remember 292 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: telling the producer it was Katie and she works over 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: to ab secret morning. I said, Jerry can't help, he can't, 294 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: he can't. Jerry loves his dude. But little did I 295 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: know Stephen, and you know, they locked him. 296 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: As somebody made somebody made sense, and that that whole 297 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: build up to the draft. It was like you knew 298 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: it was about to happen, and it almost happened, like 299 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: almost unceremoniously to him. All right, nobody really like you 300 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: didn't kick over the table because it was that, But 301 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: still's like a guard from none of the dame boy 302 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: that was who he talked about just in the nikked time. 303 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: You got the guy that you needed. And man, he's 304 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: he's done. 305 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: Well. 306 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: Man, I hate I don't want to hear it end 307 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: like this. I mean hearing it from a former player 308 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: when you say, man, we're the last to know, and 309 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 4: you're thinking about a guy that's had such a great 310 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 4: career and I don't want my last images of him 311 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: to be being beat on. 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: The field by Britt Brown. And I don't want that, 313 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: you know. 314 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: And we don't get to decide how our heroes and 315 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: guys that have played this game get to walk off 316 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: the field. But man, when you see it happen the 317 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: right way, you got to appreciate it even more because 318 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: a guy like this deserved all of the fruits of 319 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: his labors and not being able to, you know, not 320 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: being able to get to a super Bowl in his time. 321 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: As a player. 322 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: I think would be the biggest regret as an organization 323 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: and as a fan base for him, because he was 324 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: so good. 325 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: Going to speak to that, you're the listeners. If you 326 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: don't know, Hecma's uncle is the greatest defensive tackle and 327 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: for history. Joe Green, I don't know how Joe. I 328 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: don't know what his final games were. I don't know. 329 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: I don't remember and recall. All I know is in 330 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: the biggest moments in the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 331 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: He was out there whooping some tail and he won 332 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: for Super Bowls, and so I don't know how. I 333 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: don't remember how it ended. 334 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: Pinch Nerve pens Nerve took him out and his back 335 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: couldn't play anymore, wasn't the same, wasn't the same, couldn't 336 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: couldn't get ready for games, and it kind of unceremoniously ended. 337 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: You know, you would rather him walk off with rose pedals, 338 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: you know, the way that the champions should be celebrated, 339 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: and sometimes it doesn't happen that way. 340 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: I don't remember how it ended. For too Tall, Yeah, 341 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. Man, Just think about disc 342 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: For Drew Pearce, I just think I don't really remember 343 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: how did it end. 344 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: That's weird. 345 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: I don't remember. I just know that it's to me 346 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: Joe Montana. I don't know how it ended for Joe. 347 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we played for Kansasity. I don't remember. 348 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: But just because a lot of a lot of our favorites, 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: the greats, the ones we hold in the upper echelon 350 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 5: of our football memory and history. 351 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: You don't get to go out your way some of us, 352 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: some of them do. The gladiator sports rarely let you go. 353 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: They some of them get you gracefully by wild You 354 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: get to have your Kobe Tour, and you get to, 355 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: you know, shake hands and kiss babies a lot of 356 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: time in this game. The game hands you and opens 357 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: up the door and say get gone. The gladiators, the boxers, Yeah, 358 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: that's the worst players, that's the worst now in the UFC. 359 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: The gladiator sports you really don't get. You don't really 360 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: get to do it. Basketball, baseball, you know, look a 361 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: little bit better. You get to do it a little 362 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: on your way. But but the gladiator sports man, you know, 363 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: it's just it's just rare. I I do remember Ali's last, 364 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: but I don't really remember Oscar dill is last. 365 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: One. 366 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: I don't really, you know, I just you know, you 367 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: just don't. I mean, Tyson, I know, the Lennox Lewest thing. 368 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: I'll let me please stop. You know, even Roy Jones, 369 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 3: I can't remember the dude to beat him up when 370 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: he was fifty. But I mean sometimes you just kind 371 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: of put it out of your mind because you want 372 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: to remember the great. You want to and that's what 373 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 3: that he was great. That player was great. And that's 374 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: what I think about, not towards the end. And that's 375 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: what I say when you mentioned Zack Martin walking off, 376 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: because right now, yes that's fresh in our mind, but 377 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: that won't be for me. I still think about Draft 378 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: night more than I think about Zach Martin walking off 379 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: the field. And Jerry at training camp still opening about 380 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: Johnny and we're going to talk to that. It's a 381 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: little uncomfortable, you know, he's still crying about it. I mean, 382 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: you hear and he and I just thought, what a 383 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 3: how bad is it that? I mean, have we ever 384 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: seen a first round pick? In my mind, Ricky Williams, 385 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: you know, because I mean a donov mcnow because they 386 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: wanted Ricky Williams the Piladelphia not him, but just what man, 387 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: you know, I don't want you right on the still 388 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: over here talking about what what? What didn't happen in April? 389 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: He told about it. 390 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: I told him, your son, you laid up. That's a layup. 391 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: It's a golf you just lay it up. So make 392 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: no risk while the cowboys being risky and what you guys, 393 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: you go and get left Hackle, who's a now a guard? 394 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: Can't sell no seventy jerseys. It was so dispects like 395 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: this what to work? 396 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: But yet they worked out perfect. 397 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: Jerry's going to, you know, put him in the Ring 398 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: of Honor. 399 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 400 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: And depending on who Zach wants to present him in 401 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: the potentially Jerry could present him in the Hall of Fame. 402 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: And that to me would be pretty ironic the thing. 403 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: And I hope if Jerry does, I hope Jerry put 404 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: that in speech. Yeah you know, I really didn't want you. 405 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: He won't see that I messed up, Thank goodness. 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When? 475 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: When when the good old rowdy left the mobile? 476 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 10: Uh? 477 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: Around those establishments? 478 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: Where you know? 479 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: You got me confused for the other maker man, I 480 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: asked him too. Now I know that, I know that 481 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: I know him personally. 482 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: Yes, the stories get better and better, but I was 483 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 4: not there. Was that there? 484 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: That not there? Yeah, mother mother dog. He has more up, 485 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: closer personal story. But I said, he got the he 486 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: got the cackling like yeah, yeah, I said, Okay, I 487 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, this is what it was. He look, 488 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean back in the day. I mean, especially you want, 489 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: if you want to really get to the players, the 490 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: locker room wasn't it. It was Monday night in some of 491 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: those places, you had opportunities to have more conversations with them. 492 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: So there you go, there you go, there you go. 493 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: Here's something I wanted to kind of we see Zach 494 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: Martin and I are now. Dak Prescott comes out this weekend. 495 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: He tells Jory Epstein, you know, hey, I wish I 496 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: was there. I wish I could help Mike McCarthy, how 497 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: much does this help. Mike McCarthy in his season ending 498 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: conversations with Jerry Jones to say, look at what I 499 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 3: did not have last year. I had a quarterback who 500 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: led the league in touchdown passes, who was second team 501 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: All Pro hurt. I had my best defensive player, Michael Parsons, 502 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: miss meaningful games. I had Tank Lawrence, another significant defensive piece. 503 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: He probably may not play again this year. It missed 504 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: significant amount of games. Hall of Famer Zach Martin not 505 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: how much will Jerry in your opinion, as you start 506 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 3: to see this, maybe I give this guy Mulligan. 507 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been asking talking about that empathy uh factor 508 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 4: for the for the injuries, and I think a lot 509 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: of people were leading up and we were talking about 510 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: that last week about how injured the team was, but 511 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: also the talent on this roster. Coming into the season, 512 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: there were those that believe, like, look, this team is 513 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: going nowhere fasts, What are you doing in the running 514 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: back room, what do you have for white receivers? All 515 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: of those things were question marks. You have rookie offensive linemen, 516 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 4: and oh, by the way, your defense still after the 517 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: Green Bay game, what did you answer on that side 518 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 4: of the ball, So I got I think I think 519 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy has a case. Media wise, the way that 520 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 4: this this team has been covered, he doesn't look like 521 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 4: he has one. For a very long time. He's looked 522 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: like a coach from the beginning of the season on 523 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: the hot seat, lame duck coach, all of that. My 524 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: thinking is these next couple of games are really going 525 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 4: to decide at all if anything he has, he has 526 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: to me an opportunity here as a coach that if 527 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: he can lead the troops in this we're just talking about, yes, 528 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: win this game against Cincinnati. Then you come back to 529 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 4: that same conversation and then we're now we're not just 530 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: talking about it from a standpoint of who he lost, 531 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: but who he's winning with. You're winning with a backup quarterback, 532 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: You're winning with backup offensive lineman, rookie offensive lineman. You're 533 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: winning with a maship defensive line or whatever you want 534 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: to call these guys these days. Right, I think that's 535 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 4: what you'll get more of a storyline on with Mike McCarthy. 536 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 4: Then you know, going to the injury aspect, but you. 537 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: Win this next game, and to your point is, look 538 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 5: what you want with do we forget what you lost 539 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: with you, You lost with your quarterback, you lost when 540 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: you lost with Zach Martin, you lost with Michael Parson, 541 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 5: was in the lineup when the Saints routed you, when 542 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 5: you lost to Baltimore, when you got embarrassed by Detroit. 543 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 5: Like so sometimes the recency we live on that recency 544 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: edge because I don't forget what when I saw the 545 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: early half of the season where guys or fresher where 546 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 5: your team was there, and you talking about a mulligan, 547 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 5: What does a mulligan look like? Because if I'm Mike McCarthy, 548 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: you can't another one year deal. 549 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: No, you gotta give me four more. 550 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 5: Years, like as a as a as a coach, you 551 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: put me back in the same position again. Sure, and 552 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 5: now the locker room also understands, well, you're only gonna 553 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 5: be here for a year. And then now do you 554 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 5: do you what more snip snip are you gonna do 555 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 5: to me? Are you gonna tell me who I gotta 556 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 5: now have call plays? Are you gonna tell me now 557 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: who I have to have as my defensive coordinator? Are 558 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 5: you gonna tell me now what assistance I can and 559 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: cannot keep? Because you don't you don't lose like they've 560 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 5: lost in this year in everybody stays. 561 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 4: But the power struggle, now, the power struggle here is 562 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 4: never gonna change. 563 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: You know who's gonna pick that? I mean, So that's then, and. 564 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: That's my point. Like I think a lot of times 565 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: we we've talked about, you know, Jerry in the front 566 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: office and those giving him what if Mike says, you 567 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: know what, I've been in this thing for four years. 568 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 5: I've got my name back out there. I'm I'm outside. 569 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 5: There's some job that will come open up that I'll 570 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 5: get an opportunity to. Maybe I don't want to come 571 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 5: back here and deal with this again. Good for him, 572 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: Maybe I don't. Maybe I don't want to deal with 573 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: the power structure again. Maybe I don't want to deal 574 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 5: with On Monday, I'm trying to keep the injury report 575 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 5: under wraps and tell who may or may not play. 576 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: But as I go on at nine o'clock, my boss 577 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 5: comes on at eleven o'clock and he tells them everything 578 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: that I was trying to keep from them. Or when 579 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 5: I'm trying to put together a game plan in the system, 580 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 5: and I'm like, all right, here we go, all right, 581 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 5: all right? We go, he goes your shot and I 582 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 5: gotta get told. 583 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: Hold on, here's what I need in there? 584 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: Another guy that's not the guy that we want to know, Jesse, 585 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: you don't believe that dude, So yeah, I do. 586 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: So remember were talking about before ask you do you 587 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: give him justice? You get what you deserve because you said, hey, 588 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: you had your full string for the same full string, 589 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: So you go get what you deserve? Or do you 590 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: allow him some grace? You don't get what you deserve? 591 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: Because did I give you a running back room? 592 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: It was a or B. 593 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: I gave you a C running back room? Did I 594 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: improve this d line? Like we said, no, did I go? 595 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: Did I go? 596 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: I got something that's never been You're asking for accountability 597 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: that ain't happening. 598 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: What is but I'm saying for for Mike? Do you 599 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: give him what he deserves and saying your rec you 600 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: are with your record? Or do you allow him some 601 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: grace when you don't get what you deserve because you've 602 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: admitted you as a general manager you weren't GMing enough. No. 603 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: No, because at the end of the day, it comes 604 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 5: down to, uh, what was the scene when smoking was 605 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 5: in the room and his mom said run down to 606 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: the store, she give him money. 607 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: He go, hey, this ain't enough, make it enough. So 608 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: you go into justice. Then you go get what he deserves. 609 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: You say, your record, you are what you record sition. 610 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: So that's so in saying that A initially, that's what 611 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: I was saying from the beginning. I listened to your show. 612 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: I know exactly you from the beginning of the season, 613 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: You're like, this is not enough talent on this roster. 614 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: You needed more to win with. 615 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: And if you thought this was gonna get you back 616 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: to twelve and five, you gave me bare bones. You 617 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 4: were saying that the carpenter doesn't have his tools. All 618 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: of those things were in there. So look, if you're 619 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: gonna get any of that, now is the time to 620 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: say to Mike brou we set you up all right. 621 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: Now, let's come on back in here. Let's get this right. 622 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: I don't think Mike gets to the point where he's like, 623 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: I can go, I can go to the go here 624 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: to the Saints. 625 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: Will you say that? 626 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: Is this the Cowboys, Jesse. 627 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 3: I've experienced it. I've experienced it, and this is what 628 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: has gotten me. I've experienced it. It's the Cowboys. I've 629 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: come over here. 630 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: There are premier jobs in the NFL. 631 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: You I gave you three twelve and five seasons and 632 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: that wasn't enough for you to look at me as 633 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: somebody who was worth a contract extension. After that, then 634 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: you set me up and now you you you you 635 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: want to make a deal. So I hear you on 636 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: that aspect. But this is a question I would have 637 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: as Mike McCarthy and his agent go to the market, 638 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: because he is a free agent actor this year. Who 639 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 3: wants him? And how do you sell him? Okay, New 640 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: Orleans is open? How do you sell Mike McCarthy to 641 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: that fan base the same way you just sold the Jets. 642 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you the same thing. 643 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, Hey, here's what I did when 644 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 5: I had the quarterback. He well, I don't know if 645 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: he can go to the Jets of Ary Rodgers gonna 646 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 5: be today already they greasing his kids. But I go 647 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 5: and I go, hey, listen, when when when they gave 648 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 5: me what I needed? I was I was twelve, I 649 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 5: was twelve or five? Right, three straight seasons? Now I 650 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 5: know what happened when against Green Bay. And if I'm 651 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy, I go probably my defensive coordinator who you 652 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 5: know who? 653 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: I didn't. 654 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: Actually, you know, I had to agree to bring him on, 655 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 5: but I don't really that was my first choice to 656 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 5: bring him on. 657 00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: Uh he will. 658 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 5: Look the other jobs were supposed to getting ready for 659 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 5: a playoff game and that that didn't work well for us. 660 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: But here's what I am able to do. 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Santa will be spreading 726 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: holiday cheer at the Cowboy Theme Cottage in the Star 727 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: District from November twenty second through December twenty fourth. 728 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: For more information and to book. 729 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: Your visit, head to the Stardistrict dot com slash Santa. 730 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 3: Hack Maharrison in the house, appreciate, thank you very much. 731 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: We have Jesse Holly, former Cowboy receiver. 732 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: I am new e struct man. 733 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 4: He'll brought to you by Okay, you. 734 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 3: Never know what you. 735 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 6: Yo. 736 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: Listen, you never know what you're gonna get with me, 737 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: but you're gonna get old of me. 738 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: That's what we need. We need. You need to do 739 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: a live show, bro, That's what you need. 740 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: You need a live show, people, because if you go 741 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 4: stand up on the desk like that, but people need 742 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 4: to see you live. Now. 743 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: This is I pay a ticket to see it. Yeah, 744 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: let's go. 745 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: Okay he safe? Oh yeah for sure. 746 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 5: By the way, we got Thursday and that football got Thursday. 747 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 5: In my assurance company, CEO got killed the other day. 748 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 5: I got I gotta check the assurance out, bro, see 749 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 5: how things is going over there. 750 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, we're moving to him next year, so 751 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 3: might coven him next We're going back into this. I 752 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: gotta I gotta make sure my things is. Man, I'm 753 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: gonna get out of this business. When I saw my 754 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: limbs making was making ten mill, I need I'm in 755 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: the wrong business. What do I need to get? I 756 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 3: need to get up out of this CEOs. You making 757 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: that kind of you don't want to get that. You 758 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: don't want to get in that political situation right about now? 759 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: Ten million? Yes, people, Satary is ten million. You're not 760 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: talking about the stock options and the other stuff I'm 761 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: getting I do. You ain't talking about the playing. No, 762 00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 3: I'm shut up people, people, You'll get this man, I'm 763 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: gonna get sugar. 764 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 6: Now. 765 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: You get a whole bunch of people around me. Go 766 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 3: get a couple of young boys like my man Jared. 767 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 4: Got the boy. 768 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call ros Rosie what you're doing now? 769 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna that's all up. 770 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 3: Go catch me a million. I'm in the wrong bit. 771 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 3: People come to me to hey, man, you talk to 772 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 3: my kid. Kid got the industry? Like, you don't want 773 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: to talk to me? I do. I tell you, I 774 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: want to talk to me. 775 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 4: You're not the guty to go to the ass man. 776 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 4: How did it work for you? You telling bare Bones? 777 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 4: What was you making your first gig? You told us 778 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 4: that what hundred dollars a week? Three hundred a week? 779 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: So it was one time. Uh back when Keith Russell 780 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 4: was a channel left. 781 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 3: We're the Mavericks. Hey want you to meet so and 782 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: so she's trying to get the business. Give us some advice. 783 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: I said, how much time you got left? The two years? 784 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: I say, you got time to become a business man. 785 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 3: I say, you know, I'm gonna tell you. I tell you, okay, 786 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 3: be the person who owns a team, not slapping around 787 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 3: like me. Who's talking about it was? It was the 788 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 3: crew at w R A L t V and Roley 789 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 3: Durham who told me don't get in this business. 790 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: Don't do it. 791 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 6: Nah. 792 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 3: I'm like nah, I like to TV. Oh, we guys 793 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: get to talk to Dan Smith. I'm like, I want 794 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: to do this is the basic. They're like, don't do it. 795 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 3: Go go to law school, you know, go get a business, 796 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 3: go do something like Man, I was too stupid because 797 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 3: that was back when when Bill Clinton was president. Like 798 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 3: any stock you put down and made a bunch of money, 799 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 3: I should have gone into the hedge fund industry. You 800 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: could owned the team, own the team, done some of 801 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: that kind of thing, man, And instead of sitting up 802 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 3: here making wage, I make wait, that's I make wages. No, mother, folks, 803 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: they make profits. So go to business school. Go to 804 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 3: business school, Go do that. 805 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: Man. 806 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: It's like, no, don't come to me these dreams I have, Like, 807 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: this business is. 808 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: Not what it was when I got Tom Ever neezer, gentlemen, 809 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: don't emmy emmy with it. 810 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 6: Did that? 811 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like, I got, I've got, I've got. Okay, 812 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm telling you I've been successful in this and I'm 813 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: telling you no, I have done just about everything I 814 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: ever thought I could do in this injuryment. I've had 815 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: some great moments. Man, I'll never forget the first Super Bowl, man, 816 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 3: San Diego Jets flying over. Man, I'm sitting here Watch. 817 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 3: Get ready to watch John Lway fourteen point underdog go 818 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: up against the Green Bay Pack. Watch the game was great. 819 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 3: I was there in the build. First time I went 820 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 3: to Vegas is like, you know what, man, I'm gonna 821 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: make sure I go at night because I want to 822 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 3: see the lights and I want to go for a 823 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: championship fight. So I go see Mike Tyson fight. 824 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 6: Man. 825 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 3: I've lived a fantastic dream going to the Dean Dome 826 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: to see North Carolina play when they took on Florida 827 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: State the year they won the national championship with the 828 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 3: greatest comebacks they ever had, a twenty two point come back. 829 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 3: I've seen the greatest things. I've been wanting to cover 830 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. Man. I covered Magic Johnson with the Lakers. Man, 831 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 3: fabulous for it. I was there when Kobe came and 832 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: Shot came. To Dude, I have lived a fantastic dream 833 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: gone to see final fours. Man, Dude, I have seen it, 834 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 3: and I'm telling you right now, knew if you could go, 835 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 3: what would you do. I took my ass to business 836 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 3: school and learn business and be aheadsp us so I 837 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: could be hanging with Jerry Jones and done that. So 838 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 3: when they come to me. Now, I'm like kids, this 839 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 3: stuff is not exactly what you think it is. 840 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 8: It is. 841 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: It is fun, but at the same time, there's things 842 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: that you can and cannot do. 843 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: How many rich, miserable guys do you know? 844 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: Hey man, let me be one of them. You let 845 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: me find out. 846 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. 847 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: Again a couple of them. 848 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me know them. 849 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: Let me find out you know what you know? And 850 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: I'll be okay. Now I got I got this Bible, 851 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 3: and there's gonna be some verses that tell me what 852 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 3: to do. So I'll be okay, I'll be okay rich, 853 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: and I'll give some money. I'll be all right. But 854 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 3: when I just tell people this is not what you 855 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: think it is. And now and you see them, just 856 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: you seeing these kids come in here. Now I have 857 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: to work getting in Christmas man, little I remember I've 858 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 3: had to tell people, what do you back up? 859 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 6: Mean? 860 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 2: Back up me? 861 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 3: You work Christmas night? You back up me and one 862 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 3: man one man's or trying to make it fair? Now 863 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: you know you got off Christmas New Year's and I 864 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: got a contract. But I used to work these holidays. 865 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 3: Now kids come in over that I don't want to 866 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: work that damn man, my family, but I want to go. 867 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 3: I want to go see my family. Know what I 868 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 3: used to do? Tell my family, Hey, cowboys play three o'clock. 869 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 3: Everything's given. You want. You want to spend thanks in me, 870 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: come here, Come here, we'll cook, we'll have whatever. But 871 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 3: come here. 872 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm here. 873 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: This is what I do. Wow, I spent my life 874 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: in the last twenty years. 875 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: What we do right, It's what this is. 876 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: I tell people, I live in two seasons, football season 877 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: on football season. A lot of these kids don't want that. 878 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 3: And depending you you know, where you live in our 879 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: industry dictates how your life is revolved around. All my 880 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: friends in the Carolinas, they know you don't take off March, 881 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 3: and you don't take off April because a tournament is 882 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: around here and somebody's gonna be at the final four, 883 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 3: so you're working that time. Don't sit around here. Try 884 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 3: to take off the week after Christmas because there's going 885 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: to be bowl games. You're in a college football area, 886 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 3: in a college basket This is what your life is. 887 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 3: When I worked in Los Angeles, don't take off April 888 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: May June. Don't take it off because bil Jackson had 889 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: they lakers in the finals it's what you do. And 890 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: right now, if you're in LA, don't take off October 891 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: November because the Dodgers are make They're going to be 892 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And so there's a lot of folks 893 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 3: man who don't realize this is what their life is. 894 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: It is what it is, and they want to They 895 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 3: want to have it both ways worse than ever because 896 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 3: man used to be justly? Did it now? 897 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: Man? 898 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: Colonal? I want to be off. They want fair. 899 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 4: I want fair that I want to be equal with Hey, 900 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 4: don't ask Newie, No they asked, but I try to 901 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: be cutting. 902 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: You don't want to talk to me. Cut this look, 903 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 3: cut this out. Put it in the video for new 904 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: He send it to him. So in the hill, what 905 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: do you think? 906 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 2: What's your number? 907 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you this little click clip and they 908 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 3: got it. I don't want to lead Dallas. You mean 909 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 3: you leave? 910 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: You gotta go. 911 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, do you not understand, like mind League Baseball? No, 912 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 3: you don't start off playing for you go to the 913 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 3: chit lit circuit. You gotta go. You gotta go somewhere. 914 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 3: And what's your tall for? Hey, Jackson, that's if you're 915 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 3: lucky enough to get to a place where you're next 916 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 3: to a state uret. You may have to go out 917 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 3: to Utah, you may have to go out to the 918 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 3: area Arizona, somewhere. You may have to go somewhere coal 919 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 3: up in Michigan to go get your start. And folks 920 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: don't want to do that, Like this is what it is. 921 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 3: You don't start here. But that's the dude. All right. 922 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: So packers tonight, Packers Detroit BC is taking berries, come 923 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 3: in and he's taking green Back. Yeah that's a bit. Okay, 924 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 3: So what you're going with, I'm going with America's team. 925 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 3: You're going with. 926 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 4: You're talking about man, Yeah, you came in with a 927 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 4: lot of controversy today. I'm taking Green Bank with Detroit. 928 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 3: Okay, you taking on green I'm going green Bay DETROITCE. 929 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: Got the injuries. Got the injuries, man, got the injuries 930 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 3: are piling up. I mean, dude, if Matt eberflus knew 931 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 3: how to call the game, they probably have to go 932 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 3: to overtime and lose against Chicago after having the lead. 933 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: The injuries are piling up. 934 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 2: What's uh? 935 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 6: You know what? 936 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 10: Give me green Bay to win this one? Thirty one 937 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 10: twenty seven. Wow, all right, I'm tonight. Yeah, this is 938 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 10: where's the game gonna be CBS. It's gonna be up 939 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 10: in Detroit and Detroit. Come on, man, give me, give 940 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 10: me twenty eight. I'm gonna twenty twenty four, twenty eight, 941 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 10: twenty four Lions. Okay, we're gonna fall further behind the pits. 942 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go thirty five twenty four Detruth. 943 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 3: The Detroit Football Jesse Alli, thank you for coming in here. 944 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: Appreciation's always on scores. 945 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 3: This is the players Lounge. We will talk to you 946 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: tomorrow right here on dallaskytwish dot com. 947 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 948 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.