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Speaker 2: So how did you dare to surbey me? Welcome to?

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Speaker 3: I said, no gift time, Bridgard wine girl. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: someone has uploaded it to the internet. I haven't watched

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Speaker 3: one of the funniest, just a dear person, none other

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Speaker 2: John. Welcome to. I said, no gifts, Hi, Bridger, how

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Speaker 2: are you I'm thrilled to see you right now. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: Just tell me what you're making for dinner. I'm sorry, Okay,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so you're out here cooking a lot of pasta.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to think less of you. All that said,

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Speaker 2: Party and I spent like two days with her just

431
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Speaker 2: like talking to her, and it was like it was

432
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: just a really really beautiful experience and then the second

433
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: lockdown happened. I just started reading. I was like, this

434
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: is a very clear like a short story writer. It's

435
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: like kind of a very clear like task. It doesn't

436
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: feel overwhelming like, oh I'm reading, I'm gonna to read

437
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: six novels to complete this person's like, you know, whole

438
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: body of work. Like I there was something very digestible

439
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: about like read a short story every day. So I

440
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: started reading her shit and like went bonkers for her,

441
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: like absolutely bonkers. And that was the thing that created

442
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: the habit of reading again and made me like hate

443
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: Twitter in a really nice way. And also, I mean

444
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: it was like it was like during the election two

445
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: and I just was like getting so angry every fucking day,

446
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: or during the primaries, like the Bernie stuff, I just

447
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: was so angry about like everything that was happening to

448
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: Bernie and so and so, like reading Deborah just really

449
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: took me out of a really dark, dark rage place.

450
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: And then and then it just kind of created this hole.

451
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: It's like this new hole to be film which and

452
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: like once I finished her work, I started just looking

453
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: up who she likes, who, what her favorite books are.

454
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: And then and it's I've just since been kind of

455
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: building on this, like there's like the Deborah Eisenberg nucleus,

456
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: and then like everyone she's like influenced by her loves

457
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: or like has worked with or something, you know, like

458
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: it's and and that's what's done it for me. And

459
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: then there's this really long interview with her in the

460
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: Paris Review that I was like dying. Okay, here here's

461
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: the scalding tea. You better get your fucking burn cream

462
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: ready because goll with this team. So there there is

463
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: let's just say, there is a paywall the Paris Review

464
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: for it to read this interview with her, and I

465
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: was so obsessed with her and so desperate to hear

466
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: her like talk right, And I paid forty nine dollars

467
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: that's a Paris Review subscription to read one interview.

468
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: To care about anything that much to pay forty nine dollars,

469
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: I would blage.

470
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: And then I forgot I read the interview having paid

471
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: for the description, completely forgot that I had paid for

472
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: the subscription. And then maybe a couple months later, a

473
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: fucking fat Paris Review arrived in the mail and I

474
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: felt so chic. And now I have a little stack

475
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: of like four Paris reviews on the fire place. That's

476
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: exactly where they need to be. Have you read them?

477
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: I have not cracked one, but I was looking at

478
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: I was looking at the stack as I was like,

479
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: what do I get Bridger, because I was like, there's

480
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: like a little novelty store down the road. They have

481
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: a handcuffs. I was like, it's so not my sense

482
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: of humor though about hand cuff. But I was like desperate,

483
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: of course. And then I looked at the Paris reviews

484
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: and I was like.

485
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: That's good, It's perfect. I mean, it's I'm genuinely looking

486
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: forward to getting them. I'll read one thing from each

487
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: of them.

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00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well my my plan, of course, I have this

489
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: idea that like one day I'll get to them and

490
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: I'll work my way through them, all right.

491
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing about a literary magazine, at

492
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: least you know, the short stories or whatever are hopefully

493
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: ever green and you can look at them down the road,

494
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: you know.

495
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: With what I was earlier when.

496
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: I said I'll occasionally subscribe to The New Yorker, I'll

497
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: usually get to there's a part of the magazine I'll

498
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: get to that just makes me mad, and then I

499
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: dispose of but yeah, so it'll be nice to have

500
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: a quarterly thing to look forward.

501
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: No, and it's it's not. I do feel like again

502
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: our generation, like the New Yorker, has always been the

503
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: kind of signifire of like prestige or like kind of

504
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: high mindedness or something. Yeah.

505
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: No, I fully I'm fully on board with that, and

506
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: I feel like the Paris Review is kind of suddenly

507
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: about to take the spotlight.

508
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I'm with this podcast, with this,

509
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: with this particular No, I do feel like people are

510
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: our age, are looking for something more. I agree. I

511
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: don't know. I could be wrong, I could be absolutely true.

512
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: I think people are really hating Twitter. I think people

513
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: are really really.

514
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: It feels like the hate that we've been talking about

515
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: for like the last five years or so is finally

516
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: really kind of cemented, and people are actually like, I

517
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: can't do this anymore.

518
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: This is not Are you on it much?

519
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 5: No?

520
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Because I literally lock myself out of it with this

521
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: app called Freedom. Oh that's beautiful. What does the app do?

522
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, it it basically you just like

523
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: schedule it. It locks you out of whatever apps, whatever

524
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: websites you want to be locked out of right, or

525
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: like a certain amount of time, and I do a

526
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: full like when I wake up in the morning, like

527
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: I do it. I set it to like eight thirty

528
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: am the next morning, and then I basically wake up,

529
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: have a miserable half hour where I'm like taking it in,

530
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: and then I like gleefully relock myself out of it

531
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: for another like twenty three hours. And then and then

532
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: what happens, of course, is my body is so fucking

533
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: accustomed to just typing t W I tinking in every

534
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: four seconds, and I do it, and then it goes

535
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: this green screen pops up and it literally says like congrats,

536
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: you're free. Oh this is lovely. It's like relaxed, like

537
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: like enjoy that. Like you're not like do the work

538
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: you were meant to be doing. You know, it's like

539
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: corny like neoliberal shit, but it's like but it's still

540
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: It's like it's so nice because you literally can't help yourself.

541
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 2: You just type it in and before you know it,

542
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: you're just on Twitter and already minutes have gone away,

543
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's everyone knows it.

544
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: But wait, but are there any this is my problem?

545
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: Are there workarounds?

546
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: Of course? See I need. But I tell you what,

547
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: it's not. Okay, it's hard because it's hard. It's hard

548
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: to make yourself a puzzle.

549
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

550
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. I wish it were

551
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: that hard, but it's like it's more just like you

552
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: have to you have to like delete the app from

553
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: your phone and often. And this is what I actually

554
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: really like about it, even though it can be really

555
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: annoying when you actually do need to use Instagrams like

556
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: promote somethings, but like it kind of like fucks up

557
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: your apps, Like it like the whatever the blocker is

558
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: is like fucking intense, and like even I'll like delete

559
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: the app and I'll still my Instagram will be like

560
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: really slow. Once it's incredible, yeah, and I'm just like

561
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: honestly good. It like kind of makes it all a

562
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: little less slick and just you know, easy to be

563
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: on for two hours. Yeah.

564
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: I mean in the last like year and a half

565
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: or so, I put on the I don't even know,

566
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: is it the phone saying like you have this amount

567
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: of time for this day or whatever.

568
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's so devastating everything.

569
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but every day now, at least on like Instagram,

570
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: I guess it says like, you have five minutes left

571
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: and I just put ignore limit for the day. But

572
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: I think that's more because of the pandemic. I'm just like,

573
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: look what.

574
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Else am I going to do?

575
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: And for me at least, Instagram, I mean, it's just

576
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: such an absolute waste of time. It's not doing any

577
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: My brain is not no new information is entering my brain. No,

578
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking so. But I will say Instagram doesn't

579
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 3: feel it's not sending me into an immediate rage as

580
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: soon as I'm looking at it, I completely agree.

581
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: I mean there's Instagram has its kind of own special

582
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: kinds of like rage, right which I would say are

583
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: like infographic based. No, of course, the infographic trend has

584
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: rightly ooh that is here ten ways you know that,

585
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: and then you're like swiping through it and it's like,

586
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: oh I am a monster. Sorry, I actually do need

587
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: to check my privilege. I forgot to check my privilege

588
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: to that. H yeah, it's uh.

589
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: I have a I do have a like a secret

590
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: Instagram account to just follow things that I genuinely enjoy

591
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: and then like my sister follows it.

592
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: But does it turn into you just checking?

593
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: Of course, It's like me checking this podcast's Instagram and

594
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: then me checking my personal Instagram, and then it's just

595
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: really who cares? It just means that I'm using it

596
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: three times as much. Rather John, I want to play

597
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: a game.

598
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

599
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: It's been a while since we've played this game called

600
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: Gift Master. So I'm just going you know, usually I

601
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: give a choice. I'm taking a little more control on

602
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 3: this podcast.

603
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: I want to choose. You shouldn't have to choose a

604
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: father figure. Yes, for sure, absolutely, and I'm stepping in,

605
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: thank you. So I do need a number between one

606
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: and ten? Now you know what I want to say, No,

607
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: I don't. What do you think I want to say?

608
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: What's the number that everyone chooses when they choose number two, one,

609
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: and ten? The through my own research is eight. Really yeah,

610
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: trying to be cool and go one over from seven.

611
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: I've always felt since I was a little boy that

612
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 5: people like that, when teachers are like picking ever to

613
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 5: oneted Eric, seven, I feel like that has always been

614
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: the go to number.

615
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm telling you on this podcast it's eight. I promise you.

616
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: It's people not wanting to just.

617
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they don't want to do seven and

618
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 3: rarely does anyone do below five?

619
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: You're never getting a three. No one says one unless

620
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: you're like, I know, David Foster Wallace what I'm talking about.

621
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm just like trying to imagine a really pretentious person

622
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: choosing one. I love.

623
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love presenting somebody with that. And then the

624
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: person decides they're going to be difficult with choosing a number.

625
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: Well, look at me, okay, okay, I'm going to say nine. No, Wow,

626
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: that's high.

627
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I think okay, I have to do some calculating

628
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: in order to get the game pieces. There's a system

629
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: of randomization in order to keep it fair. So now

630
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: you do have the microphone. You can promote something, you

631
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: can recommend something, you can do whatever you want. You

632
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: can talk about something you enjoy. I don't care while

633
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: you do the calculations. Yes, okay, I will tell you.

634
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: You have who knows how much time? It could be seconds,

635
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: it could be truly two minutes.

636
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, all right, what's up you guys? Is

637
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: John Early taking over for Breazure for a couple seconds.

638
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: I would just like to double it out of my

639
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: recommendation for deborra Eisenberg, who really changed my life.

640
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: I read all of her short stories. You should read them.

641
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: You should start with her most recent Your Duck is

642
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: my Duck, and then you should go back and work through,

643
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: work your way through chronologically. I also have to promote

644
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: my favorite movie all time. I've been talking a lot

645
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: about it on social media. It's called Clockwatchers. It's a

646
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: kind of forgotten indie gym. It is finally after years

647
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: of campaigning. I'm not in anyway taking credit for this,

648
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: but I did campaign for years on Twitter to get

649
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: it streamable somewhere. It is finally on iTunes. You can

650
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: rent it. It starts Tony Kollett, Parker Posy, Lisa Kujo,

651
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: and Alana Yubach. And it's really really beautiful John excellent

652
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: use of time. I got everything in And I would

653
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: say Clockwatchers actually feels to me like a debt. It

654
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: has a tone of the Debor Eisenberg short story. So

655
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: they pair really beautifully together. I'm going to say this

656
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: about Clockwatchers. You've been you have been recommending it for

657
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: probably since as long as I've known you. Yeah, and

658
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: years ago I tried to find it online, could not

659
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: finally found a torrent of it downloaded the Torrent. It

660
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: was in Russian. I think this has happened to so

661
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: many and was it was dubbed. It wasn't just so

662
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: it was absolutely dubbed, so it was unwatchable. This literally

663
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: happened to me. I like planned a trip upstate with

664
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: a friend and like the big like the like climax

665
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: was gonna be, We're gonna watch a pirated thing of

666
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: clockwater shed in the movie, and then we did it,

667
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: like I had it downloaded and it was literally like

668
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: dubbed in Korean. Yes, it was like cool, so it

669
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: was unwatchable and that was like the one copy on

670
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: the internet. Yeah, I don't know why was that movie

671
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: under such lock and key for such a long time.

672
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: You know, I actually, like a true psycho, am like

673
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: in touch with the director, Oh no way, because I

674
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: wrote a paper on it in college and she was

675
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: an NYU grad and so I was like I like

676
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: went through the alumni and got her like information and

677
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: like interviewed her about it and we like and she

678
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: very sweetly like kept in touch with me over the

679
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: years and like I love her and she had a

680
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: really brutal experience in this industry, one example being that

681
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: like they literally the company like lost the print. You're what,

682
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: there's like no existing like thirty five millimeters or whatever.

683
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: She was like, you don't have it. She's like no,

684
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: they never gave it to me, Like it was like

685
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: last at this festival they said they don't have you know,

686
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: but someone has it because it recently there's like a

687
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: new like streamable and it's like beautiful quality, like hd ass,

688
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: I rented it and it's fantastic. You when did you

689
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: rent it? Like when you you recommended, I mean you

690
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: posted about it online. I was like, thank god, it's

691
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: finally available. I have it because that cast is phenomenal,

692
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: Like John has great taste. I have to. I've been

693
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: wanting to see the movie for years. Then you are

694
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: the movies number one promoter, number one fanom promoter.

695
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: And it's so it's it looks amazing. It's so beautifully directed.

696
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: But then that cast is incredible.

697
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: I know. I think it's so visually beautiful, like that's

698
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: one of the No one talks about it, but when

699
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: they do talk about they don't talk about the visuals.

700
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: The visuals are true, like it's actually directed, it's yeah, exactly,

701
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: it's very deliberate. Has she done anything else. She did

702
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: a movie called Thirteen Conversations About One Thing, which was

703
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 2: a follow up, and it was with like John Deturo,

704
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: Amy Irving, Matthew McConaughey, Clea Duval Wow, And it was

705
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: really good, but it like came out right before nine

706
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: to eleven and no one saw it. And then she

707
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: made this other movie with like Greg Kaneer, Alan Arkin

708
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: and Billy Crudup that was like basically hijacked from her

709
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: mid process by like the executives, and they like ruined it.

710
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: And then I'm not doing the same words as hell, right,

711
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: what is she doing now? She's just like in the

712
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: valley with her sister, like just hanging out out. I

713
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: have I literally I don't. I don't know. Like I

714
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: literally sent her an all caps email being like it's streaming.

715
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: I was like, are you excited? It's finally Like she

716
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: had no idea, of course not. I told her that

717
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: is why. I literally, like, I mean literally years of

718
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: it being unavailable. She had no idea that her first

719
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: her debut movie was available. She was like, oh really

720
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: like kind of just like she's just like break It's

721
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: it's devastating. I always I always like she's by the way,

722
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: I interviewed her for this like Tony Kolett thing I

723
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: did a while ago, and she brought she came over

724
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: to my place, my apartment. Oh my god, you are

725
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: truth that the president of the fan club, and she

726
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: literally brought me a prop I had a rite here.

727
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: It's I don't know if you remember from recently watching it,

728
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: it's the pen Jack Schoberg Clu. That's kind of a

729
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: pivotal thing. And yeah, he's like the sleazy guy in

730
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 2: the bar who gives the pen to Lisa Kudro, right,

731
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: you know, and they realize that it's actually kind of

732
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: a fake title and he's just being a sleeze ball.

733
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: That's I have the fucking pen, John, you just grabbed that.

734
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: It seems randomly off your desk. Where are you keeping this?

735
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: It's going to be lost.

736
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: I know, I need it needs to be in a

737
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: fucking like staple that to the wall or something. No,

738
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: what's it? I think a shadow box sounds right, yeah, yeah, no, no,

739
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: I know, but it's it's in a little pen holder.

740
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: Right now, Okay, I'm gonna I know, I know, I know,

741
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 2: I need to get it more formally. I will honey,

742
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: I'll spend the money on it. Okay. The game. The

743
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: game is called Gift Master.

744
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you three potential gifts, and then

745
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you three celebrities, and you have

746
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: to tell me which celebrity you will give which gift.

747
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: And why does that make sense? It's very easy. Why

748
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: did I say the word nine, I mean the word number.

749
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: The number nine. Well, I have a long list of

750
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: potential gifts and a long list of potential celebrities, and

751
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: then I go through one, two, three, four, five, six,

752
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: seven eight nine one too. Does that make sense? I've

753
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: had a lot of questions about that. Okay, I'll play along.

754
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: I'll play along. You just tell me if I'm doing

755
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: anything wrong.

756
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna You're gonna be fine. Okay. The three gifts

757
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: that you're going to be giving, this is where I struggle.

758
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: The three gifts are. I'm writing them down, Okay.

759
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: Impacted molars, that's that's you know, like when your wisdom

760
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: teeth are essentially you know, I'm not a dentist, I'm

761
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: not an orthodonis, but I feel like they're kind of

762
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 3: just really in there, They're really they're under the gun,

763
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: right they're impacted.

764
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: You haven't gotten your wisdom teeth removed, basically, right.

765
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: And I think that it makes getting them removed more difficult. Okay, Okay,

766
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: but I could be wrong. I just like the sound

767
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: of impact impowers. Number two, cozy slippers, Okay, I like

768
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 3: a pair of cozy slippers. And finally, a true sense

769
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: of self.

770
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: That's the third gift you'll be gifting. Okay, So two of.

771
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: These things are non traditional gifts, and that's fine. The

772
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: people you're giving them to area Ronan, who you know,

773
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: we all know and love the performances of Roan. This

774
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: next one I may have to give some context to

775
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: because it took me a moment. Robert Irvine, Now, Robert Irvine,

776
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: I think he hosts Restaurant Impossible. He's kind of this

777
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: extremely muscle bound British man with he goes around restaurants

778
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: around the country and yells at the restaurant owners about

779
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: what they're doing wrong.

780
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: I'm looking him up right now, is that? Okay? Yeah,

781
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: of course I've never seen him in my life, but

782
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: he's There's a picture that I found of him flexing

783
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: holding a whist that on the cover of Muscle and Fitness.

784
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely roided out. Yes, you can see like that is

785
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: not that is not him. That's a head put on

786
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: that body completely. But look at the spongy quality of

787
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: roid roydtwork. He's incredible.

788
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: Now you're not familiar with him, I can I can

789
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: switch celebrities if you'd like, or you can keep him.

790
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: I think that gives you a good idea.

791
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: I feel like he was.

792
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: Part of like the British Special Forces and then probably

793
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: opened a restaurant. Is now yelling at American restaurant tours? Yes, okay,

794
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: Robert Irvine. And finally Miles Teller actor Miles Teller of Whip.

795
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: What was the movie? Yes, yes, AND's the one with

796
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: the roller derby girls.

797
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: Well that is that's right, that's equipment. He's in a whiplash.

798
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: I don't know that I've seen him in another film.

799
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: I do remember when I was living in New York

800
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: there were a lot of posters for a movie he

801
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: was in that I could The posters made me angry

802
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: every time I saw them.

803
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: Was it the Army one? It's called like, who are

804
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: you talking to? Well, I'm gonta look it up because it's.

805
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: I feel like it was one where he was like

806
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: I want to say, like, actually, I don't I don't

807
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: know what the character was.

808
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: He looked like an asshole. I remember seeing him. I'm

809
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: not what war Dogs? No, No, I don't know that

810
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: it was. He always has that look on his face.

811
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: So it's just the movie that I thought was called

812
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: who Were You talking to? Is called Thank You for

813
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: Your Service?

814
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I want to let's see two. I want

815
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: to say it probably was war Dogs.

816
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, war Dogs were bled for the tacular, now bleed

817
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: for this? What's that? We're now just looking up the

818
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: Miles tail. I saw Footloose in theaters the remake with him.

819
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: He was in Footloose the remake. How was the movie?

820
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 2: I honestly loved it. I was there with two friends

821
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: from high school were we were trying to have a

822
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: good old time, right, and we had a blast. And

823
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: I thought he was a star Miles Teller. Yes, I

824
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: thought he was such unnatural. I thought he was a star.

825
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: And then I hear that he's he doesn't have a

826
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: good reputation. And that's not that doesn't surprise me at all.

827
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: Private information that is like much publicized. But it's depressing

828
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: because I think he's so gorgeous and like a marriage.

829
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Can't look at his face, his face just he does

830
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: not look like a good person to me.

831
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: Oh my see, I mean, I guess you must be

832
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: you must be right. And then I'm looking up what

833
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: is his reputation? Just like a kind of like, you know, unprofessional,

834
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: kind of hot headed? Okay, sure, like freak outs on set,

835
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: showing up late, that kind of stuff. I mean, I

836
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: do need I'm I'm gonna message you this poster for

837
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: this movie, bleed for this because I do need you

838
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: to just quickly for context, see what I'm talking about.

839
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: See the subway every day and I was just I

840
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: fly into rage. You're working on Kimmy Schmidt. Yes, can

841
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: you imagine? I know? Who is that? Aaron Eckhart. Oh,

842
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: it's Aaron Eckhart. So hot. Still, he is very good looking,

843
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: he really is. And I Kate and I recently rewatched

844
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Aaron Brockovic. I've never seen Aaron Brockovic. It's a damned delight.

845
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: You should watch it. Okay, it's very inspiring.

846
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: John, Okay, it's time for you to tell me who

847
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: was getting what?

848
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: Give your refresher on all of that information? How many

849
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: times I have to tell you this. I wrote it down.

850
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: That's okay, you told me once. Okay, so well I

851
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: think it's pretty clear. Well, actually, I don't know I'm gonna.

852
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm going to give Robert

853
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: Irvine cozy slippers, okay, because I don't know. I feel like,

854
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: I feel like he's sweet. I mean again, i've never

855
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: seen him speak, I've never seen his work, but like,

856
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't know just the amount of work he's putting

857
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: into his body. That's what I'm saying, that you slip in.

858
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's someone who needs some type of love or comfort, totally, totally,

859
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: and it.

860
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: Would be too obvious to give him a true sense

861
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: of self. But well, see now I'm okay, well, okay,

862
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: so oh interesting, Yeah, I see what you've done here,

863
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: I see you know what I mean, So, cozy slippers

864
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: go to Robert Irvine. Impacted molars I'm going to give

865
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: to Circia. I think she has a true sense of self, right,

866
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: that's what I feel like you had trapped yourself. And

867
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: I actually I love her, but I think she's working

868
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: so much right now and she needs to be checked

869
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: a little bit ready, Like I think she actually like

870
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: I don't want her to. I'm looking out for her.

871
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't want her to get too big of a

872
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: head based on like all these leading roles and like

873
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: a c overexposed exactly. So I want her to like

874
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: basically have to take some time off to like deal

875
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: with the with the whatever procedure that requires, and take

876
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: some time to just kind of like get out of

877
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: the rat like the prestige rat race that makes perfect sense,

878
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: and like a realign readjust and kind of actually re

879
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: examine the next the next choice that she wants to

880
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: make instead of just going on to the next oh,

881
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: of course, you know, just the brutal cycle. And then

882
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: a true sense of self I'm going to give to Miles.

883
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: Tell her not because I wish him peace, but because

884
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: I think maybe if he gets a true sense of self,

885
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: he'll be nicer to crew members, right and this, so

886
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 2: this is me looking up for the crew. I think

887
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: that's great.

888
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: I think that you know, slight disagreements here and there,

889
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: but I think that that was expertly played. I don't

890
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: know what to tell anybody, but beautiful, we have to

891
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: answer a question. This is called I said, no emails

892
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: people write into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.

893
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: People are desperate. Just help me answer a question. Okay,

894
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: this person, let's see. Okay, this says dear gracious host

895
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: and esteemed guest. I love listening to your podcast and

896
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: got my sister and brother in law who live in

897
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: Brussels hooked two.

898
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I remember this question. I'm bought.

899
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 3: Okay, this is going to be complicated, and I apologize.

900
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: I count them your gift Master game for Christmas. So

901
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 3: what we just played? There's a home version. This person

902
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: bought for Christmas and was delighted that you made I

903
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: didn't make it.

904
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: Now makes but is it like with your picture and stuff? John,

905
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: somehow I've made it into a place in my life

906
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: that I now have a like a card game. I

907
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: had no idea I would have prepared more for this.

908
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, Oh all that acided to prepare yourself for this.

909
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: This person bought the gift for the sister and brother

910
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 3: in law. They live in Brussels.

911
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

912
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Was delighted to see that it could be shipped directly

913
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: to Belgium, as international shipping is often a trial. I

914
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: refuse to read even the most basic information about how

915
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 3: gift Master is played, and sent the two of them

916
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: who are in lockdown with my nineteen year old not

917
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: nineteen nineteen month old nephew, a game that cannot be

918
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: played with only two people. I should tell the listener. Now,

919
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: it's like a three person or more game you can't play.

920
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 3: You can bend the rules and play it to people,

921
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: but you want three people around. In addition, the shipment

922
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: was assessed at forty euro import tax, which they had

923
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: to pay in order to receive the gift. Okay, so

924
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 3: the brother in law and sister had to pay forty

925
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: euros just to get this.

926
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you reimbursed them.

927
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: So I sent them an unplayable game that literally costs

928
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 3: them more than I'd paid for it myself. This would

929
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: have been an amazing sibling prank if I'd actually planned

930
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: it for them. Gift Masters, yet another joy that's embargoed

931
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: until after this pandemic is over, Bridger, What can I

932
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: gift them to make up for this comedy of errors?

933
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 3: Many thanks, Eli. So basically this person has made family

934
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: pay what is forty euros? That's probably sixty dollars? Yeah, yeah,

935
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: on top of the price for this game which they

936
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: cannot play so now the person is now thinking of

937
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: sending another gift, which to me, first of all, what

938
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: this is this customer service?

939
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: What's happening?

940
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: But we do need to think of something that you

941
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: can say at this point, I think you're just sending.

942
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: The first thought here is just pay them back.

943
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: Yes, what are we talking about? It sucks? But like

944
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: you cannot leave that to them the forty euros. Yeah,

945
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: I would be absolutely shattered. Yeah, yeah, what what Let

946
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 2: me be clear, what's the questions? Like? How to question?

947
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: Is like I want to send them another gift that

948
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: they can actually use. Okay, first of all, let's just

949
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: be honest. Everybody's getting you know, the vaccines are, they're

950
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: on the trucks, they're headed out.

951
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: I would say, wait it out.

952
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like give it another month without mentioning anything. Yeah,

953
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: and I feel like, you know, Europe, they're probably going

954
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: They've probably got a decently efficient system of getting the

955
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: vaccine to people. Yeah, Brussels is not huge, the population

956
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: is not over. They're probably already completely vaccinated. For I mean,

957
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 3: this person probably wrote in months ago. So I apologize,

958
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: but that's the nature of a podcast. But this is

959
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: what I'm going to say, by yourself a ticket to

960
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: get vaccinated, surprise trip to Brussels to play the game.

961
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: And I think that's brilliant. It's a total surprise. It's

962
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: like and it's and it's literally they show up and

963
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 2: they what if the couple's forgotten about the game. They

964
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: probably have Yeah, it's probably collecting dust somewhere.

965
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: I mean.

966
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: The the one caveat.

967
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: I will say here is that it seems like you've

968
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 3: already burdened them once, right, Sorry, are the clean? What

969
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: are we having for dinner? That said, I think that's

970
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: a decent thing, or I don't. I just don't even

971
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 3: understand the the the the having to pay for an

972
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: item to arrive situation.

973
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: It just seems like sending them another gift is going

974
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: to be a it's going to be another expense for there?

975
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: Is that just a normal way of shipping that?

976
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 5: Like?

977
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Like is that? Why did that happen? I guess is

978
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: my question. I have no idea.

979
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's because the game is an American

980
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: product and there's some sort of.

981
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm I'm speaking way beyond my level of knowledge already.

982
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: I haven't even started talking about it. But I guess

983
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: there's an import tax or something.

984
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

985
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: This is I don't know what was the last gift

986
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: you gave somebody that you were excited about.

987
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: I like giving gifts. I got my boyfriend a shirt

988
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: that is like like one of those odd like magic

989
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: eye think oh interesting, you know, and it says when

990
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: you like kind of blur your eyes a little bit,

991
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: it says Epstein didn't kill himself. I'm very proud of that.

992
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: Where did you get that line?

993
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: Okay, but that's not something you can send to a

994
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: brother in law. Honestly, no, I think I've never sent

995
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 3: something out of the country as a gift.

996
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: This is very it's a difficult. It's it's really hard.

997
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: I think this is you send them, you pay them

998
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: for the money of the game, add on a little

999
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: extra for takeout.

1000
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: I think that's so classy. Well maybe you do. Maybe

1001
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: you do, like you reimburse for the game. Person, then

1002
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: you do like a kind of digital gift card through

1003
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: some sort of delivery app, right, just more cash me

1004
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: a little more kind of personalized, something that's at least yeah,

1005
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: something that's not just literally more money in their checking account,

1006
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: right right, which you know is also great of.

1007
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: Course, nobody can say no to cash, but cash plus

1008
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 3: whatever European gift card you're finding even know how any

1009
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: of that awayfair Way. No, Look, it's a tricky situation,

1010
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: and you know, basically, hopefully this apology it sounds like

1011
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: they listen to the podcast on occasion. Hopefully this apology

1012
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: will be enough. Brother in law's sister, I'm sorry that

1013
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: you're dealing with this situation. I mean, my hands are

1014
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: completely clean, as her mind has her John's. We're not

1015
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: dragging John, And no, I.

1016
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: Mean I would hope not Jesus, but you know, hopefully

1017
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: the reimbursement will happen. Uh, get your vaccine, and I

1018
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: think everything will be fine. Well, and I would argue

1019
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: that this is the gift if they are in fact

1020
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: into the podcast, them like hearing there this kind of

1021
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: drama aired out, you know, and analyzed by us, I

1022
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: think will be a real thrill. So we said better

1023
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: be hello to you and you know, and I say

1024
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 2: hi to the baby. Okay, we've answered the question. John.

1025
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: This is the end of the there's not another question

1026
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: another game. I don't ask. I'm going you just have

1027
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: to face the void.

1028
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: I will bring up another question. I have sixty pages

1029
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: of questions.

1030
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: Let's do another question. Let's do one more question. Are

1031
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: you asked for? I'll find a short one. I mean this,

1032
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: whoever is getting the next question is going to be

1033
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: they're very lucky. Okay.

1034
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: This next question does not even address the guests, so

1035
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: my apologies, apologies. It just says Bridger. So you're just

1036
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 3: assumed here, but can I help? Well, the first sentence

1037
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: is I need your help.

1038
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

1039
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: My husband and I moved into our house last March

1040
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: and our neighbors are great. Recently, we had our first

1041
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: significant snow of the year, and they use their snowblower

1042
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 3: to clear out a portion of the sidewalk as well

1043
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: as their own. They are two middle aged women and

1044
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: one late teens boy who just started college.

1045
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't like what I'm hearing. Is this the same

1046
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: sex marriage?

1047
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we're not answering this question. This is disgusting. Let's

1048
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: see he oh, well, here we go. Here's the turn.

1049
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: He is the one who actually did the blowing. So

1050
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: these two middle aged women did not participate in the

1051
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: help they sent their son out. Besides that, we don't

1052
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: know a ton about them at this point, beyond what

1053
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: John and I have just assumed what is the perfect

1054
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: thank you for clearing our sidewalk gift we can safely

1055
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: leave on their porch. Thanks. That's from Jenny in Omaha.

1056
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: Omaha gets a lot of snow when it gets Omaha

1057
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: was the last place I was in outside of Los Angeles.

1058
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: By the way, Wow.

1059
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: That you should do on stage, because that is I mean,

1060
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: there's something there's your show. Wait wait, okay, So the

1061
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: question really is like, what do you get someone you

1062
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: don't know?

1063
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: What do you get someone who you don't know in

1064
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: the dead of winter in Omaha?

1065
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: I mean in his.

1066
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: March, the spring is around the corner. Uh yeah, but

1067
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: you know, clearing people's walks is no walk in the park.

1068
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 3: It's no Sunday drive. Have you cleared a walk before?

1069
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: John? Of course not Bridger. You know. I here's what

1070
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: I'll say, I very boldly. The other like I would say,

1071
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: make something like Okay, for example, I made and this

1072
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: is this is where you get true like this is

1073
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: where you don't get more millennial than this. But I

1074
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: made chili oil. You made chili. This is bone appetite.

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: It's like apetite excess. It's really disgusting.

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: How did you make the chili oil. And why when

1077
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: there are so many excellent chili oils you can purchase.

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01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: Well, that is so true, isn't it, Bridger? But I

1079
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: tell you what, Like this recipe you like put star

1080
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 2: a niece or whatever, annis and cinnamon sticks and like

1081
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: garlic and childs and you like cook. It really loans

1082
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: real long time, and it makes your house smell and

1083
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: and it's also that was just French were incredible. I

1084
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: took three years of French, six years of friends, and

1085
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: I took an additional in college. I did the role plays,

1086
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: I read the books. I was a treasure student. I

1087
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: took the projects to great heights creatively. That teacher I've

1088
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: never seen, Oh but I but I was like, oh, oh,

1089
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: so I make these big batches for myself because it's

1090
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: really like it's just incredible, and it's just like a

1091
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: fun thing to do, Like it feels very like it's

1092
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: it makes your house smell really good, and it's like

1093
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: a nice way to feel the dead dead days. And

1094
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: then I had to borrow a fucking pan for my

1095
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: like elderly neighbors, and like I was like, God, what

1096
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: do I do? It was such a nice thing. They

1097
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: did for me, and then I like gave them and

1098
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: then I gave them little jar of the chili and

1099
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: I wrote the ingredients on and I And the reason

1100
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: why it's worth my for me is because I did.

1101
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: I came up against this sphere of like, is this

1102
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: too bold of a flavor? Right? Like? Is this is

1103
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: it literally too spicy to be giving someone without knowing

1104
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: someone's like palette? Sure? And is it potentially like in

1105
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: this day and age when everyone's allergic to everything, especially

1106
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: in La of all places, people are very picky about

1107
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: their foods, their and their allergens or whatever, is it insane?

1108
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: And I felt like, you know what, fuck that? Like

1109
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: it felt like it felt like a nice kind of

1110
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: rejection of like like kind of La prickliness around food

1111
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: to just be like, I made this chili. If you

1112
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: don't fucking want to throw it away, yeah, pass it

1113
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: on to the next neighbor. But like I felt like

1114
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: this what a specific, unexpected gift for them to get.

1115
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: And it's like, it's it's fun that you put on

1116
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: your eggs raw. Oh, I love on any food anything.

1117
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: It's so versatile. And I just felt like it was

1118
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: I felt proud of it. If It really did feel

1119
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: old fashioned, like jarring or can anything fill your fifties.

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01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: And putting the recipe on the jar. I love that

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01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: type of gift. I think, wait, where did you get

1122
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: the recipe? John, I need you to tell me where

1123
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 3: you got the recipe?

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01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: Look Morocco, I actually think it's that's an excellent winter gift,

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01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: something to warm people up. This is what you do.

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: You make the chili oil, you put it in a

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01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: jar with the recipe by three pairs of mittens.

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01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh that and you send it over. Now three people

1129
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: in the house, of course, the two moms.

1130
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 3: Well, okay, you've already erased the two women in the house.

1131
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: You're looking at just the gen z straight Sun. We

1132
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: know your sis.

1133
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: Son.

1134
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 3: No, this is a family of three and they need

1135
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 3: three pairs of mittens and some chili oil.

1136
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: That is so sweet. Yeah, I just yeah, and okay,

1137
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: that's I would say anything that you can kind of

1138
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: like can or make is like just a lovely anything

1139
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: that can sit in the fridge and is very versatile,

1140
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: goes on different things. It's a really sweet homie gift.

1141
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: Or dare I say this is kind of like fancy

1142
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: actually kind of expensive, like some sort of like just

1143
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: like beautiful. This isn't good. You have to you have

1144
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: to tell I was gonna say some sort of like

1145
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: beautiful like coffee table book, but like like we just

1146
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: like I found this coffee table book at this bookstore

1147
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: in La it was called like something about seashells. It's

1148
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: just like it's just like beautiful catalogic like like a museum,

1149
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: like just like pritures of like every single kind of

1150
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: like known like variety of seashells. I'm just like, what

1151
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: if and thank god I have it. I love that.

1152
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: I but like, what if someone had given that to me?

1153
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: I would have fallen to my knees.

1154
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 3: That is not that fancy, I thought you. I mean

1155
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: I truly was like trying. I could not comprehend what

1156
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: you were about to say a coffee table book that

1157
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: coffee fifty.

1158
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: Eighty dollars. Okay, but there's a range of coffee table books.

1159
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: That's not a bad say. I think that this is.

1160
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: This is all I'm trying to get out with the

1161
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: chili oil and the seashells, is that people when they

1162
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: get gifts for strangers, they tend to iron out any

1163
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: sort of like actual kind of interesting they're trying to

1164
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: stay like the most vanilla thing that like, yeah, because

1165
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: they want to be safe, like an unscented candle. Who can.

1166
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: But it's like we all know, when you get something

1167
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: like that, you're just like you just throw it away

1168
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: or you like put it in the bin to like

1169
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: the bin in my British you give it. But yeah,

1170
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 2: and I think that like you actually like really should

1171
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: try to be really really specific.

1172
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 3: That's that is something that just as a gift giver,

1173
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 3: I've trying I'm trying to embrace more which is the

1174
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 3: idea of giving someone a gift is it's literally something

1175
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: they weren't expecting. Yeah, it doesn't matter if they can.

1176
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you think it's good.

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01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: If they don't think it's good, it wasn't going to

1178
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: be part of their life anyway, right, throw it away

1179
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. If you got a book of those

1180
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: fucking seashells and you don't like it, yeah, fuck is

1181
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: your problem?

1182
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: Well that sounds like someone who wants a book of

1183
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: like old cars.

1184
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: Okay, right, I guess if someone gave that to me,

1185
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: that's it. It's a very soothing you know. I'm happy

1186
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: to get anything. I know, host a podcast where once

1187
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: a week I'm getting random. I love it. I just

1188
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: think it's a fun thing to I don't know, give

1189
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: them some chili oil.

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: Though.

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01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: All that said, the chili oil is truly a winter

1192
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: a winter must. Yes, it's the bonapaty recipe. It's called

1193
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: chili crisp.

1194
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: Actually right, of course, Well, don't roll your eyes. That's

1195
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: what half of these oils.

1196
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: I've got a jar of chili crisp in which, by

1197
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: the way, was given to me as a gift by who,

1198
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: my friend Jessica Gow who's just the all time best.

1199
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: But she gave me an excellent chili crisp. But I'm

1200
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: putting on everything. Did she make it or she didn't

1201
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: make it? But Jessica's both of you. Jessica does listen

1202
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: to this podcast, and once a week she starts texting

1203
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: me in all caps things that she thinks I said wrong,

1204
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: and it's huge for her. Jessica's going to be furious, Jessica.

1205
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: I think the chili crisp you gave me has elevated

1206
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: so many of my meals. I can't thank you enough.

1207
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 3: I can't remember the brand. It has like an old

1208
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 3: like kind of a grandmotherly figure on it, like a

1209
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: photo of it's the best. Okay, it's gun or something

1210
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 3: that sounds right.

1211
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like a yeah, a kind of stern

1212
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: like a portrait. Yeah. Yeah, Oh that is like the ultimate.

1213
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: It's so good, truly putting it on I'm putting it

1214
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: on cottage cheese at this point.

1215
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've literally put it in sour

1216
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: I like was starving and nothing in the fridge. I

1217
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: put chili oil in just a fucking container of sour cream.

1218
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: It you're just eating spoonfuls of sour cream. There are

1219
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: was things I could.

1220
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: Do, Okay, chili oil. Wow, look at that. We've answered

1221
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: two full questions. One was essentially a customer service inquiry,

1222
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: which I'm fine to answer. People have other problems with

1223
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: my products, reach out, I'll answer months later.

1224
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: This is really shaping up to be maybe one of

1225
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: your best episodes.

1226
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: When I was absolutely an all time golden Golden episode.

1227
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 3: Listeners are thrilled. This is the beginning of season two.

1228
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: John. I am honored.

1229
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: As far as I can tell. I mean, you know,

1230
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 3: with an interview show, what are we talking about? This

1231
01:09:54,479 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: isn't cereal, but this is last week was season end

1232
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 3: of season one, the last of the first year, which

1233
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: was literally the anniversary of Lockdown. Wow, who do you

1234
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 3: have on Jen Spiro?

1235
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: You know Jen Spira, a very funny comedy name is

1236
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: extremely familiar.

1237
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's very funny, John, very funny. I'll check her

1238
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: out on Twitter. And who knows who will be season two?

1239
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: Maybe this is the last episode and I have a fit, John,

1240
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: God bless you.

1241
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 2: For being here. I've got a full year of four

1242
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: magazines to look forward to. I really hope they're good again,

1243
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: haven't cracked a single one, but there's such a good

1244
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: prop if I need to stage a house in a

1245
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: way that you know, really, he's so fun of your

1246
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: staging houses for extra cat for stager. I would love

1247
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: to stage whoever is doing it sucks. Oh, they're always

1248
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: always very bad to me. Exactly what we were just

1249
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: talking about, and we will and this. But I just

1250
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,839
Speaker 2: like the people who stage homes or airbnbs or whatever

1251
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: like apartments like are playing to the lowest comment. They're

1252
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: just being as safe as humanly possible.

1253
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, are you familiar with this photograph

1254
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 3: of what I believe is maybe a buffalo or an

1255
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,879
Speaker 3: ox that's black and white, A giant, like highly detailed

1256
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: photo of a buffalo. I want you to keep your

1257
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: eyes out for this show, because that is the new

1258
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: that is every one of these.

1259
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: I don't know it, but I know it.

1260
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 3: You Oh, it's absolutely You've probably seen it a thousand times.

1261
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 3: And it's so innocuous that I mean, it's exactly how

1262
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 3: you stage your home. It's like things that look like

1263
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: objects you would place in a home, but are essentially

1264
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: an object that no one actually owns.

1265
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 2: And I would just encourage the listeners. You don't have

1266
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: to just passively receive this taste. You can. You can

1267
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: bust through and frame whatever you want to frame. You

1268
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: know what I hate the most is the the the

1269
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: brass geometric like it's like little brass, kind of like

1270
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: geometric and there's like a light. Oh, I know what

1271
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: you're talking about. This isms there's like candle holders, there's

1272
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: their lamps. Sometimes they're chip and Joanna Gaines do you

1273
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: know are you familiar with them?

1274
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 3: There are that Christian couple who kind of flips houses

1275
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 3: on HGTV ship and Joanna second, he's the most annoying

1276
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:36,520
Speaker 3: husband in America. And it's very much there.

1277
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: I've never seen this.

1278
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 3: But they're fully responsible for that, or they were born

1279
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: of it. I can't say for sure.

1280
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's brutal.

1281
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, John again, bless you.

1282
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 2: I've had a wonderful time. I had so much fun, Bridger,

1283
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 2: and hopefully I'll be able to see you in person

1284
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: at some point. I don't know. I bet soon, probably

1285
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: in the next in the calendar year. Absolutely in the

1286
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Speaker 2: probably by the time I get my second Paris rout. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good benchmark. First, Yeah, benchmark.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you and listener, this is this

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Speaker 3: is the end. This is I'm going to complete the podcast. Now,

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Speaker 3: whatever you're doing, you can continue to do it without

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Speaker 3: my assistance. You can move on to a song, you

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Speaker 3: can do whatever you want, because now our time is over.

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Speaker 2: Goodbye.

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Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 3: engineered by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and the theme

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Speaker 3: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

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Speaker 3: the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's

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Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

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Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts Stitcher

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Speaker 3: or wherever you found me, And why not leave a

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Speaker 3: review while you're there. It's really the least you could do.

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Speaker 3: And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go

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Speaker 1: And I invited you here, I've got I made myself

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Speaker 1: perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and.

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Speaker 2: I said, no, guest.

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Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 1: So how did you dance? Surbey me?