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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I'm Annie Res, an unlarned vocal bumb and today we

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Speaker 2: have an episode for you about Twizzlers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, not a sponsor, Nope, nope.

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Speaker 2: Currently it's just you know, we are finally in October.

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Speaker 2: Halloween is approaching even more so than usual, and I

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Speaker 2: thought it would be fun to talk about a type

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Speaker 2: of candy that sometimes shows up in trick or treat

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Speaker 2: kind of situations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I really leaned hard into Halloween

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Speaker 1: is coming this year. I feel like, like mid September,

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Speaker 1: I was being the annoying like, oh yeah, start yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Halloween stuff now right, which I know can be annoying,

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Speaker 1: especially as someone who gets annoyed by that with Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know man.

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Speaker 2: As like a semi goth human, Like I feel like

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Speaker 2: I start this in like December, I'm like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: Helen is coming up, so yeah, that's it's I think

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Speaker 2: it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like I don't I kind of know

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Speaker 1: my friends who are cool with it, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: really put that on all this shore, but like my

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Speaker 1: group that I know were like horror movies though. Then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will say Twizzlers was always a candy I was

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Speaker 1: disappointed to get. I have nothing really against them, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes I find myself craving them and there strange way,

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Speaker 1: but I've told this story before. I had this podcast

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Speaker 1: idea for a parody about They're called twist and Phills,

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Speaker 1: and I swear Hershey has tried to erase that they

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Speaker 1: ever existed, and I even found a whole reddit about this. Wow,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, what was in them? And or were

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Speaker 1: they just that difficult to make? Because it turns out

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Speaker 1: making Twistlers it's not easy, no, no, And so I

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Speaker 1: imagine twist and films were not easy. But basically they

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Speaker 1: were Twizzlers that had They were two fillings and the

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Speaker 1: one I liked was watermelon cherry, and me and my

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Speaker 1: friend would just smuggle them into theaters and we love them.

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Speaker 1: But I did write a whole parody series that was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be kind of like Cereal, where what happened

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Speaker 1: to the twisting fills? But unfortunately our friends at stuff

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Speaker 1: they don't want you to know turned it down. So

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Speaker 1: I did publish one. I published one episode called Twisted

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Speaker 1: on Stuff I've Never told you You can hear if

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Speaker 1: you want a taste of the like really wacky, because

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Speaker 1: there's a whole line in there that's like the pull

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Speaker 1: and peels are not the same, and they're not. That's

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Speaker 1: not what I'm talking about, all right, Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: believe you.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure. I don't think I ever had those things,

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Speaker 2: but I believe you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would have liked them. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: probably not. You can't hear it on Smindy. Also, I

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Speaker 1: learned through this there is a Twizzler Man creepy pasta. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know if that is, it's just kind

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Speaker 1: of like creepy stuff on Reddit usually, and there's a

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Speaker 1: twizzer Man challenge. I leave that up to you to

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Speaker 1: look up if you dare. It is kind of upsetting,

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Speaker 1: though I will tell you so be worded. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like candy Man ask, okay with Twizzlers, sure right now,

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Speaker 1: tell me your experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I have no experience with any of that,

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Speaker 2: but I do. I do like a Twizzler.

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the mini ones. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about this more than once throughout this episode, because I

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Speaker 2: feel I feel like they're they're just a totally different

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Speaker 2: texture and I don't want anything to do with them.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but I like a Twizzler. I even like

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Speaker 2: them a little bit more when they're like, like, it's

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Speaker 2: a different product when it's slightly stale than when it's

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Speaker 2: totally fresh, and like, h I argue.

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Speaker 1: With myself about which I like better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but for a while in high school, they were

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Speaker 2: for sure my favorite movie theater candy, And that was

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Speaker 2: also my first experience with like, oh no, you can

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Speaker 2: totally overeat something and you will be so mad about it.

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Speaker 2: Pretty immediately was with Twizzlers. I was like, oh, this

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Speaker 2: was a great plan right up until it hecken wasn't

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Speaker 2: and now I hate my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the lesson was learned a lesson Whizzlers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I was like, Okay, there's there's like a

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Speaker 2: like a ten Twizzler limit.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Yes, Oh my gosh. Which is kind of

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Speaker 1: funny because that relates to I don't think we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about it too much in here, but that

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Speaker 1: kind of relates to so a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: me think licorice candy. When we think that Twizzlers, we

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Speaker 1: think that they're licorice. I would say see our Liquorice episode,

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Speaker 1: which I think has one of the most chill taste

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Speaker 1: tests ever at the end when I tried licorice. But

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Speaker 1: it turns out licorice is not really what's going on

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Speaker 1: with a lot of Twizzlers. Yep, but that didn't stop

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Speaker 1: a lawsuit about licorice and Twizzlers from happening. From eating

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Speaker 1: too much Twizzlers, which actually don't have licorice. Oh oh huh.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I think we did talk about that in

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Speaker 1: the liquorice episode, though, is why.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, yeah, So check that one out for

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Speaker 2: more information about licorice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, also see our other candy episodes, because I

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Speaker 1: feel like Twizzlers was really coming up when a lot

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Speaker 1: of the big candies we've talked about were coming up.

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Speaker 1: But that brings us to our question, I guess Twizzlers,

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Speaker 1: what are they? Well?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Twizzlers is a brand of candy best known for

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Speaker 2: their like bright maroon red sticks of chewy strawberry flavored candy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There are these hollow tubes with ridges running lengthwise that

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Speaker 2: are then twisted into a swizzle shape, each about the

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Speaker 2: size of a drinking straw. The texture is like it's

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Speaker 2: like firmer than a gum drop, sort of akin to

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Speaker 2: a hard gummy candy, but like a little bit starchier.

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Speaker 2: Other colors and flavors do exist, but the now classic

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Speaker 2: strawberry is just simple and sweet and fruity in this

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Speaker 2: like very nondescript kind of way, like it's hypothetically strawberry,

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Speaker 2: but that's not I don't know, yeah, I mean, because

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Speaker 2: like there's there's a little bit of a tang to it,

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Speaker 2: but it's mostly just bright red flavored.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They are sold in various sized packs in stores and

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Speaker 2: often at concession stands, gularly in movie theaters. They like

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Speaker 2: they make chewing more fun. They're they're entirely unlike eating

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Speaker 2: a strawberry. Yeah, they're sort of like if if like

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Speaker 2: an olive garden breadstick was candy.

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Speaker 1: Mm m mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're like, all right, if you can think back

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Speaker 2: to when you kind of had an oral fixation, like

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Speaker 2: maybe you still have that, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know your life, no judgment here, but but okay, if

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Speaker 2: that stage of your life intersected with a stage of

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Speaker 2: your life where you played with Barbiees Twizzlers are like

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Speaker 2: how you wanted Barbie to taste, especially like her little

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Speaker 2: rubbery feet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're right, yeah, wow, nailed at the nailed at

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Speaker 1: the game. If you've never had this product, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Okay, so, yes, there are a number of flavors and

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Speaker 2: formats here, but but the strawberry twists are the most popular,

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Speaker 2: and they come in everything from plastic wrapped singles to

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Speaker 2: packages about the size of a standard chocolate bar which

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Speaker 2: contained ten twists, to tubs containing like one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty twists. You can also currently find flavors including peach, cherry, watermelon, orange, lemonade,

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Speaker 2: blue raspberry, grape fruit punch, strawberry, but zero sugar, black licorice,

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Speaker 2: chocolate flavored, and mystery. Oh no, yeah, they they did

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Speaker 2: reveal what the mystery flavor was.

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Speaker 1: Do you want? Do you want to? Do you want

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Speaker 1: a spoiler? I feel like it's gonna be like at

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Speaker 1: the end of Vinie and the Jones. Well do I

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Speaker 1: is it gonna melt my face? I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna melt your face? Okay, okay, yes, I would like

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Speaker 1: to know share it's raspberry. Oh all right, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: Face intact, yeah, yeah, totally, Oh goodness, all right. You

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Speaker 2: can also find different shapes, including minis, which are shorter bites,

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Speaker 2: which okay, are like this amalgam of like six small

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Speaker 2: tubes of candy smashed together lengthwise and then cut into

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Speaker 2: these bite sized pieces crosswise. They look like like a

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Speaker 2: red colored pasta that I would really enjoy because it

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's also nibs, which are these like solid thick ropes

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Speaker 2: of candy cut crosswise into bite sized bits. Then you

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Speaker 2: have pullen peel, which I think are six skinny solid

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Speaker 2: ropes of candy that are twisted up with each other

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Speaker 2: and then cut into like normal twizzler length pieces. You

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Speaker 2: can separate off each rope like like string cheese, okay.

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Speaker 2: And then there are a few like flavor slash shape

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Speaker 2: outliers in the form of filled twists and filled bites

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Speaker 2: and filled minis, which are like twisted tubes, but instead

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Speaker 2: of being hollow, they're filled with a softer candy of

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Speaker 2: a contrasting color and flavor.

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Speaker 1: So combo. So this is like the most like your

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Speaker 1: long loss. Yes, whatever they.

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Speaker 2: Are is, but yeah, but still different, still different, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with you about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Combinations include key lime pie, orange cream pop, and strawberry smoothie,

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Speaker 2: each of which have like a creamy center, and then

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Speaker 2: sweet and sour flavors cherry kick and citrus punch, and

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Speaker 2: then the perhaps more conventional strawberry watermelon, strawberry lemonade, pink guava,

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Speaker 1: I feel so betrayed by all of this, and I

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Speaker 1: have no reason to. I felt personally that I know.

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Speaker 2: I can only offer my condolences for your loss.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: The brand also does sell gummy candies in cherry peach

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Speaker 2: and cherry grape and cherry and lemonade and cherry flavors.

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Speaker 2: And yes, although this chewy ropey candy format is sometimes

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Speaker 2: known as licorice, that word more accurately refers to like

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Speaker 2: this particular flavor and or the root licorice root that

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Speaker 2: the flavor originally comes from. So the terms red licorice

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Speaker 2: or licorice type candy are like, still confusing, but more

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Speaker 2: technically correct, right yeah, yeah, okay. The main plant that

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Speaker 2: of Hershey. The brand is currently owned by Hershey and

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Speaker 2: the candy is made by creating a sort of like

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Speaker 2: slurry or dough made of corn syrup enriched wheat flour, sugar,

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Speaker 2: and cornstarch, along with a few things to add flavor

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Speaker 2: and color and to further help the slurry and the

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Speaker 2: finished candy both maintain the right like texture and or consistency.

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Speaker 2: The flavor is artificial, the color is red forty, and

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Speaker 2: they do contain palm oil. So this stuff is like

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Speaker 2: really old school. These are all these are all like

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Speaker 2: like controversial ingredients that I'm not going to get into

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Speaker 2: the nutritional controversy of today because that is way too much.

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Speaker 2: Those are whole separate episodes, and the palm oil is

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Speaker 2: more an environmental thing than a nutritional thing. But yes,

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Speaker 2: just to say, most candies have removed like like most

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Speaker 2: large brands of worked to remove these ingredients from their rosters.

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Speaker 1: But that's what you get with a twizzler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, This slurry, which which kind of looks

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Speaker 2: like like warm play doo, is cooked for four hours,

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Speaker 2: then cooled to the right temperature and extruded through these

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Speaker 2: it into its ridged tube shape and also rapidly rotate

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Speaker 1: Airback, Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, And again see

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Speaker 2: like a temperature, pressure, rotations per minute, and the final

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Speaker 2: weight of each piece. They collected more than sixty million

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Speaker 2: data points over the course of two months and then

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Speaker 2: tracked you know, which factors affected the weight, and then

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Speaker 2: taught the machines to adjust themselves as often as necessary,

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Speaker 2: which is some two hundred and forty times a day

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Speaker 2: as it turns out, in order to create more standard pieces.

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Speaker 2: And through this process they have managed to reduce weight

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Speaker 2: variants by about fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm telling you. The tech behind was wow, so cool.

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Speaker 1: What oh man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the guy, the the employee who had kind

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Speaker 2: of like spearheaded this program was talking about how like

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Speaker 2: how revolutionary it was and how they were going to

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Speaker 2: try to apply it to all kinds of other candy

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Speaker 2: making around the Hershey brand or company in the future.

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, like I mean like like it doesn't sound like,

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Speaker 2: you know, a couple grams here or there, but when

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Speaker 2: you're talking about the amount of production, the two hundred

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Speaker 2: tons a.

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Speaker 1: Day, like that's right, that really adds up, so.

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Speaker 2: Sure makes sense, makes sense. Meanwhile, I did not know

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Speaker 2: that Carnegie Mellon had an information systems department that's called

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Speaker 2: Hines College, but they do, and in twenty nineteen, along

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Speaker 2: similar lines, some students there helped further adjust the Twizzler's line,

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Speaker 2: this time to help save energy.

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Speaker 1: Wow wow Twizzlers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it turns out that rotation thing really takes

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. Yeah, it's so fascinating that it's one of

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Speaker 1: the oldest candies in the US. It does. I've read

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Speaker 1: a lot of funny I would say, articles that were

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Speaker 1: like it has that very like old timey vine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh definitely, and yet it has all of this.

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Speaker 1: Like cutting edge technology. Yeah, I get so cool, so weird.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, what fascinating. Oh my gosh. Listeners, please write

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Speaker 1: in about your favorite Twizzlers. If you know about twist

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Speaker 1: and phil please let me know I'm not alone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right in, But I think that's what we have to

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Speaker 1: say about the Whizzlers for now.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it is. Yes, we do already

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Speaker 2: have some listener mail for you, though, and we are

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Speaker 2: going to get into that as soon as we get

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Speaker 2: back from one more quick break forward from our sponsors.

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Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you, and

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Speaker 1: we're back with listeners. Oh pull and people. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not the same. I'm sorry, it's okay. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: letting me have the moment of grief over the you know,

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Speaker 1: no the twisted phils. Okay, so our road. So I

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Speaker 1: definitely need to try semis sounds so good. And listener

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Speaker 1: mail is always so much fun at the end of

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Speaker 1: the episode or as a full episode. I love seeing

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Speaker 1: how other people see various things. The diversity of people

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Speaker 1: and memories, ideas, history, et cetera is so wonderful. I

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Speaker 1: always love hearing about things like that from other people,

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00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: just such a comforting feel. And love the interviews with

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Speaker 1: various people in the food world, the cooks, chefs, authors, providers, mixologists,

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Speaker 1: and on and on. I love the way you do

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Speaker 1: this as it is just such a natural and smooth approach. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do not feel footh. Go ahead, sorry, yes,

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Speaker 2: but I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I love trout, but had never heard of Lahontan trout.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it is something that can be recovered so I

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Speaker 1: can try it at some point. In general, trout is

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Speaker 1: such a wonderful and versatile dish. Baked are grilled, stuffed

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Speaker 1: with lemon and dill, lightly brined, lightly coated, and old

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Speaker 1: bay are creole spice and smoked with cherry wood, flowered

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Speaker 1: and lightly pan fried. Just a great fish. And cults,

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Speaker 1: it is a great beer. I'll try tasters from breweries.

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Speaker 1: I think the issue in the US is too many

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Speaker 1: people don't know what a cult should taste like. Sibling

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Speaker 1: Revelries Cabinet is really good, and Yellow Himmers T minus

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Speaker 1: tangerine is another. Always look forward to what you bring us.

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Speaker 1: In general, fun of the show, keep on keeping on,

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Speaker 1: and good to hear that maybe Gray Cat is going

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Speaker 1: to keep letting Lauren in. Maybe we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: You're at the whims of Gray Cat any day, now,

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Speaker 1: aren't we all? Really? Yeah? True?

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Speaker 2: Oh heck, but but yeah, yeah, agreed all around. Oh man,

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Speaker 2: I I love I love these episodes where I have

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Speaker 2: cravings for very specific things that I've never tried, but

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Speaker 2: trout in general is so good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have had a real craving since we did that,

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Speaker 1: which I love to remind people. We did that while

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Speaker 1: Food Fighters was blasting. When we were talking about conservation.

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Speaker 1: I think I said I did have swordfish. I had

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Speaker 1: swordfish while we were there and it was delicious. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been on a raill. I want to get some

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Speaker 1: trouts for sure. It's important and I yeah, we say

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Speaker 1: it all the time, but we love these listener mails.

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Speaker 1: We love listener mail episodes. It's so fun to hear

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Speaker 1: you interact oh yeah, off each other like call for

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Speaker 1: people to help answer questions and stuff. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's great, always always always yeah. Okay, speaking of another one,

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Speaker 1: Melanie wrote, you sent out a call for soup recipes

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Speaker 1: on your djon episode, which I just finished listening to,

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Speaker 1: and I had to share this my favorite super recipe.

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Speaker 2: This is based on my recollection of a carrot coconut

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Speaker 2: curry soup that has served at a Nordic spa that

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Speaker 2: I love to relax at. When I was first recalling it,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was sweet. Potato based. Hence the soup

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Speaker 2: does not have carrots. Instead it has sweet potatoes. Still delicious, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So here's the recipe. Love to hear if you try it,

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Speaker 2: all right, So I'm going to read it out, so okay.

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Speaker 2: So so for the soup ingredients, half to one onion diced,

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Speaker 2: two garbs cloves minced or just roughly chopped or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Two to three.

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Speaker 2: Celery ribs diced, two pounds of sweet potatoes peeled and diced.

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Speaker 2: Half a teaspoon of dried thyme leaves, four cups chicken broth,

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Speaker 2: a can of coconut milk, about two teaspoons of salt

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Speaker 2: or to taste like, one eighth to one half teaspoon

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Speaker 2: of pepper to taste, two tablespoons of curry powder and

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Speaker 2: one half teaspoon of ground cayenne pepper. Then to garnish,

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Speaker 2: eight ounces of bacon cut into half inch pieces, and

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Speaker 2: fresh chopped parsley.

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Speaker 1: So okay.

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Speaker 2: Method Start by cooking the bacon in a large pot

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Speaker 2: or dutch oven over medium heat eight to ten minutes

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Speaker 2: until crisp removed to a paper towel lined plate. Leave

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Speaker 2: at least three tablespoons of bacon fat in the pot

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Speaker 2: or all of it if you aren't into having to

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Speaker 2: measure hot bacon, grease, and if you like delicious soup,

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Speaker 2: add the chopped onion and celery and cook about four minutes.

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Speaker 2: Then add the garlic and cook for another minute. Stir

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Speaker 2: in the dice sweet potatoes, thyme, salt, pepper, and curry powder.

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Speaker 2: Add the chicken broth and bring to a boil partially

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Speaker 2: cover and summer twenty minutes or until the sweet potatoes

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Speaker 2: are easily pierced with a fork. Then pure or blend.

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Speaker 2: An immersion blender is super helpful here until the super smooth.

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Speaker 2: Be careful it's hot. Then stir in one can of

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Speaker 2: coconut milk taste and season is desired, and serve sprinkled

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Speaker 2: with the crispy bacon and chopped parsley on top. The

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Speaker 2: best part about the super recipe is I am the

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Speaker 2: only one in my house who likes sweet potatoes, so

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Speaker 2: I get to make a whole pot and eat it

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Speaker 2: all myself. It makes for a work from home lunch

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Speaker 2: that I really look forward to. Thanks for letting me share.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you, Oh yeah, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: writing in Oh man, I would I might revert that

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Speaker 2: to carrots instead of sweet potatoes.

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Speaker 1: But oh, that sounds so good. It does. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I haven't thought of because I make

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Speaker 1: a lot of like sweet potato bassed soups. Sure, I've

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Speaker 1: never topped it with bacon. Top every soup with bacon.

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Speaker 1: Why have I not taught you? You've been missing out? Heck,

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Speaker 1: I really have. It sounds so good, I guess. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only whenever I'm doing like a chowder kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: I usually cook off some bacon in the beginning and

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Speaker 2: then yeah, have like bacon bits at the end. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's really good in like a corn chowder.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I am so ready. I like I

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Speaker 1: said in that episode, I am ready for soups. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Yeah. So thank you. This is very

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Speaker 1: much appreciated. Yes, yes, yes, I can't wait. Do you

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Speaker 1: make it? And anyone else? If you have soup, you

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Speaker 1: try this one? Let us know? Yeah totally. Oh heck, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to both of these listeners writing in. If

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Speaker 1: you would like to write to us, you can Our

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Speaker 1: email is hell hellopod dot com.

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