1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Very Show. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Is on the air. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Look, Mike, we're not going in there like that, like 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: what hey. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Look, all our lives we've been bad boys all right, 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: now it's time to be good men. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Who in the hell want to sing that song? 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Good man, good man? What you're gonna do? 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Well, play me if you're singing a song like you 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: meant it it all? 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: Catch home, shut down the FBI headquarters building, and open 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: it up the next day as the Museum of the 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: Deep State. And you send those seven thousand agents in 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 4: the headquarters building down range to chase down rapists, to 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 4: chase down murderers, to chase down drug traffickers, and let 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: the cops be cops on the streets across America. You 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: keep a small contingent in Washington, DC. 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Boys, what's he going to do? What's he going to do? 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: When they come? 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 5: Boys? 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: Bad boys, bad boys? What's he going to do? What's 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: he going to do? 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: When you get rid of half of the legion of 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: lawyers and special counsels that exist within the FBI to 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 4: do one thing to corrupt and obstruct government oversight from 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: constitutionally applicable committees in Congress. 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: Boys, bad bull what's he gonna do? What's he gonna 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: do when they come? Boys? Bad boys, bad voice? What's 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: going to view? What's you going to do when they 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: come employs? 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: And another aspect of it, real quick is one of 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: the biggest institutions in the FBI that has been troubled 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: and politicizing weaponized has been their intel component. We have 35 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: an intel agency. I don't need it to be redone 36 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: within the walls of the FBI. We've shown when we've 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 4: given them that power what they do to it. They 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: unluckily surveil a president as candidate. 39 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Boe, bad boys. What's he going to do when they compose? 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: Bad voice, bad points? What's he going to do when 41 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: they come for you? 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Bad voice? 43 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Bad points? What's going to do? Going to do when 44 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: they come for you? 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 6: For many years, I was saying, no one of the 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 6: seventy two vaccines mandated for children has ever been safety 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 6: tested in free licensing, politic see the control trials, and 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 6: I want what bad boys? 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: What's it going? What's it going the do when they 50 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: come for you? Bad boys? 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 7: Bad boys? 52 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: What's it? What's he going to do when they come? 53 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: Fool you? Bad boys, bad boys. What's he going? 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 8: Watsy go? 55 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: When they come follow you? Bad boys, bad boys? 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 5: What's he going? 57 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: What's he going to do? 58 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 6: And in many cases, NIH is hearing the royalty. We 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 6: got all of these new vaccine in seventy two shots, 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 6: sixteen vaccines and now even more because we're doing the 61 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 6: HBV vaccine. And that year nineteen eighty nine, we saw 62 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 6: an explosion in chronic disease and American children the neurological 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 6: disease is suddenly exploded in nineteen eighty nine, eighty D 64 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 6: eighty HD, sleep disorders, languish delays, ASD, autism, to red syndrome, ticks, narcolepsy. 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 6: These are all things that I never heard of. Autism 66 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 6: went from one in ten thousand of my generation, according 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 6: to the CDC data, one in every thirty four kids today. 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: Bad voice, bad boy. 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: President Trump to speak at ten a m. Central regarding 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: the crash last night in Washington. We will most likely 71 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: carry that live, assuming it it starts on time. 72 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Whenever it starts. 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: We were scheduled to have a conversation, a discussion with 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: Chad Norville, the CEO of rigzone dot Com, and I 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: have said again and again, we are not a breaking 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: new show. John Hennity will tell you we are a 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: breaking news show. We break into whatever we're doing to 78 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: cover the breaking news. We are the opposite. That's not 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: to say he doesn't do a great show. It's a 80 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: different approach to how our show is conducted. We are 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: a magazine. They are a newspaper. It's a very different 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: I like to step back from the news and have perspective. 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: I don't like to comment on live news as it's happening, 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: simply because you have to trust the primary news provider, 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: and that's usually a liberal reporter or an uninformed reporter 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: just trying to break something, and often they don't have 87 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: good sources, and that's how you enter into the conversation, 88 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: which gets baked into the final conclusions. It's hard to 89 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: do a you know, correction. That's how you get things 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: that are wrong. That's how you find out that the 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: shooter at the school was an angry white male who 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: just came back from Iraq when it turns out no, 93 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: actually he was a Palestinian Muslim who who broke into 94 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: the country last year. But people still think the former 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: because there was a bent to that. So we will 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: not have our conversation with Chad Norvil, who is the 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: CEO of rigzone dot Com, that we will postpone until 98 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: tomorrow at nine point fifteen. The reason I was eager 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: to have him on the show and still am is 100 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: the energy industry. I get a lot of emails from 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: people who just come back, particularly from the military, or 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: they've been laid off and they're looking for a career, 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: and I tell them go to rigzone dot com. That 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: is the marketplace for the energy industry. That's where the 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: big boys, independence and everything in between go to hire 106 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: people for all levels of jobs in the energy industry 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: and Liberation Day of January twentieth mint liberation. In a 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: lot of ways, we're going to see some exciting things 109 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: going on, and we're going to see a lot more 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: activity in America's energy industry. In rigzone dot com, I'm 111 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: kind of the central spot of that. 112 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I told you. 113 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: I received an email from Russell Lebara in between the 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: two segments that I had with our firefighters who went 115 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: to California to fight the California fires, and he said, 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: if you need this, it's you got it in your 117 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: back pocket. 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to feed these guys. 119 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: I get a separate message from Matt Bryce at Federal 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: American Grill. Anything you need, I'm here for you. And 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: then I got an email from Ed I mean a 122 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: text message from Ed Hindi, and he said, do not 123 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: say this on the air, but I would also like 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: to feed those guys. And Ed Hindy is very good 125 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: friends with Matt Bryce, he mentored him at Federal American Grill. 126 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: And I know he's good friends with Russell Lebarro because 127 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: people who run their businesses like those guys do they 128 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: respect each other. And I sent back and I said, 129 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: unless you specifically tell me not to mention on the 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: air that Tastes of Texas would also like to feed 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: those two guys, those four guys and their wives, then 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 3: I'm going to mention it. And he said, absolutely, do 133 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: not mention it. It looks like a one up, and 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't do that. I love those guys, but I 135 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: would like to privately feed them, and I'm going to 136 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: respect his wishes, So I'm not telling you that Taysa 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Texas is also going to fell Sam Alsadi at Big 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: City Wings. He said, don't forget about me. I didn't 139 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: forget about you. He started saying, don't you forget about me? 140 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: You know the next line, No, it's not. My heart 141 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: can't take it. The Lake and Riley Act has been 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: signed into law. Lacin's teary eyed mother, Alison Phillips, speaking 143 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: alongside our President Donald Trump before the bill's signing, saying, 144 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: there's no amount of change that will ever bring back 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: our precious Lincoln, Lincoln, Lake, lacoln even Chad did what 146 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: everybody does, Lincoln, Riley, Lake and Riley, and our hope 147 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: moving forward is that her life says lives. 148 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Ma'am. 149 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: I wish you had your daughter back. There's nothing that 150 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: can replace her. But I think you can find solace 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: if in no other way than understanding that, yes, changes 152 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: were made and lives will be saved because of your daughter, 153 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: Lake and. 154 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 9: Riley, the etherealist, the butterflies with the ferry, they're all Duncans, 155 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 9: and you know Duncan meansos are. 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: Thank you for referring us to top tax defenders. They 157 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: have already taken care of our situation. They moved with 158 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: lightning speed, and they were amazing. I cannot thank you 159 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: enough for taking this off our shoulders and reducing our stress. 160 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: Amazing company, amazing people. 161 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to. 162 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: Say his name because I'm not authorized, and nobody wants 163 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: to have to say publicly that they had an issue 164 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: with the IRS, which doesn't always mean that you were 165 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: at fault. But when the IRS gets hold of you, 166 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 3: they don't let loose. And I get I appreciate when 167 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: you take my suggestion on who to use for goods 168 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: and services. I do, but I really appreciate when you 169 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: give me feedback after the experience. And I will say 170 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: this to the person one hundred percent of the time. 171 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: It's not positive, it's not always going to be perfect, 172 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: but if you let me know that, I will also 173 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: follow up with the owner. And many times there was 174 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: a miscommunication, many times as a lack of understanding. 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Many times guys having a bad day, and we can 176 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: fix it. 177 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: That's the business model for our show, and it's tended 178 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 3: to work for us, it's tended to work for our sponsors, 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: and it's tended to work for a lot of people 180 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: who don't want to go to the yellow Pages. 181 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: People still use the Yellow Pages. 182 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: Don't want to use the Yellow Pages to go look 183 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: for a business because you live in a big city 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: and you don't know who to go to to talk to. 185 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: So I told you the story earlier about this illegal 186 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: alien savage deported four times Francisco or a Pesa. Well, 187 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: why are you scratching your navel so that I can 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: see it? I don't need to see that. Oh you 189 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: need to stand up to do that. Could you turn 190 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: your back? I don't want to look at your You 191 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: got the harriest belly. I don't know how harry normal 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: dudes are, but I mean, I've been in a locker. 193 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: I used to work out the met downtown. I swear 194 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: you got the harriest belly. And there's a funny inverse. 195 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: How come it is when a fella's balled on top, 196 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: they got hair all over their back and belly and 197 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: everything else. God's playing jokes on people. God's playing jokes 198 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: on people, all right. I want you to hear this story. 199 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: And my immediate reaction to this story is, I don't 200 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: care how much it costs hang this fella hot. 201 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: That was what I originally thought. ABC thirteen with the 202 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: story it's. 203 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 8: A plea deal prosecutor's offered him only because the victim's 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 8: family signed off on it, and only when they considered 205 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 8: just how much a death penalty murder trial would cost them. 206 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 8: They project it would have wiped out their yearly budget. 207 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 8: Words of encouragement. Shout it in Spanish to a shekel 208 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 8: Francisco or a Pezzan. As he left the courthouse, we 209 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 8: won because they wanted to kill you, A woman tells him, well, 210 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 8: Ortepeza no longer faces the death penalty. 211 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: As guilty plea means he will. 212 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 8: Spend the rest of his life in prison, no parole, 213 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 8: no appeals. 214 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: He will be in prison until he dies. It is 215 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: a death sentence of its own, just that he'll die. 216 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 7: Person. 217 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 8: It was April twenty twenty three when Ortopez has stormed 218 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 8: today's neighbor's home near Cleveland and opened fire, killing five 219 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 8: of them, including a nine. 220 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: Year old boy. 221 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: The victims had asked Autopazan to. 222 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 8: Stop firing his gun so that he wouldn't wake a 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 8: sleeping baby this offense. Attorney suggesting today their client had 224 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 8: been provoked, and there was. 225 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 10: A lot of evidence that suggested there was a lot 226 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 10: of taunting from one side towards our client. But we're 227 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 10: not saying that use anybody the right to go through 228 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 10: their house. 229 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 8: You do that, Orto Peza a Mexican citizen had been 230 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 8: deported four times between twenty nine and twenty sixteen. Will 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 8: now get to remain in the country, but under circumstances 232 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 8: he probably never envisioned. 233 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 10: He knows she'll never get out. He will never live 234 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 10: a life like the one he lived when he in 235 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 10: the free world. 236 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 8: Yet any kind of life. It's more than his victims 237 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 8: were offered. Prosecutors say budget constraints essentially tied their hands, 238 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 8: forcing them to take the death penalty off the table. 239 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 8: The cost of court aporting attorneys for a single death 240 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 8: penalty trial, they say, quadruple their annual budget. 241 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 7: I have to be a good steward so I can 242 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 7: get as much justice to as many families as possible. 243 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: All right, folks, this is a masterclass in how you 244 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: deal with public issues that are controversial. Before I knew 245 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: a deal had been reached in Sanjasino County, relatively small 246 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: county north of Houston. Before I knew, several days ago, 247 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: I got a message from a friend of mine named 248 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: Paul Doyle, and you said, Hey, a district assistant district 249 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: attorney in this case, Rob Fryar. They're going forward with 250 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: the There's been a deal. They got life. They're not 251 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: able to seek the death penalty, and he wants to 252 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: talk to you off air or on air. He's willing 253 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: to go on the air and explain why, because he 254 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: understands that's going to upset some people. My immediate reaction 255 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: is that is how you handle issues like this, full transparency, 256 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: don't hide. 257 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 7: Now. 258 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: People can still hate you, but you have the knowledge 259 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: that you withstood the fire and you can't help. But 260 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: on where I sit on the other side of the aisle, thinking, 261 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: if you're willing to come forward and answer questions before 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: I have them, you're going to tilt my opinion just 263 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: to touch, whether I like it or not. Rob Fryar 264 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: is that first assistant district attorney in San Jacinto County. 265 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Rob. They can't do a death 266 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: pened They don't even have good phones. This is terrible. 267 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: Huh. 268 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: He might have hit the mute. Might have hit the mute. 269 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: He might be a very good prosecutor, very good prosecutor, 270 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: and just terrible on cell phone etiquette. He's calling back, 271 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Okay, this might be uh, this might 272 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: be uh. 273 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Could be his. 274 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: Worst moment, could be his finest. I want to want 275 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: to reserve judgment, Ramon want a reserve judgment? 276 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 7: Uh. 277 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: I received probably thirty great recommendations on the song to play. 278 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: If we did do a public execution of this little guy. 279 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: You know, look, it wouldn't be the worst thing if 280 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: Francisco or Apesa was accidentally released. 281 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's him, and then we 282 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: could handle it from there. 283 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 7: All right, all right, Rob, good morning, yes sir? 284 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Okay, First, I gotta know what just happened? 285 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 7: Did you? 286 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Did you? Fat finger? The I was on I don't know. 287 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 7: I don't know. Michael Waugh was on my landline and 288 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 7: if something happened, so I just picked it back up 289 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 7: and called you on my cell phone. 290 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: What is a landline? 291 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 7: I don't know. Up here in say Center County, we 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 7: still use them from time to time. 293 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: I honestly do not have a landline in my life. 294 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: I'm not even joking. We don't have one hit the studio. 295 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: I don't have one at home. I can't imagine. 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: It's old, fraudy here. 297 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 7: It was sitting on my desk when I started working 298 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 7: here three years ago, so I haven't gotten rid of it. 299 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 7: But I'm on my cell phone right now. And happy 300 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 7: to answer whatever questions. 301 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: I don't know how much you heard of what I said, 302 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: but I will say this, I may hear it at all. Okay, 303 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: I may enough disagree with you, but I respect the 304 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: fact and applaud the fact that you took a positive 305 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: approach and said, Hey, I'm going to make myself available 306 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: to answer your questions on air or off air, because 307 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: I fully understand the anger over this, and we covered 308 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: this story a lot when it when it happened, and 309 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: so for that, I give you a lot of credit. 310 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Now, hang tight, he. 311 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: Just got a cell phone. He's probably still paying for minutes. 312 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: Remember when you first get a cell phone, you're like, oh, 313 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: you call me, I don't pay for minutes. 314 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Hold on you. I want to go back to one 315 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: of these women. 316 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 7: Are chief Mary Man? 317 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I think that there might. 318 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 7: Be, because I got nothing going on down there. 319 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Probably loved you to do it show. He's an assistant 320 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: district's attorney. How does this fit with the theme of 321 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: having you on? 322 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: Oh the do do is di died dot oh da ah? 323 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: You know what? 324 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: My bad. 325 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: Singularly most awful song you could have played to set 326 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: the mood, But there was a da da d a 327 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: DoD dot. You know what, there was a method to 328 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: your madness, and yes it was madness, okay. First Assistant 329 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: District Attorney Rob Fry Sanjacino County has been commended for 330 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: reaching out to us that in this case of this 331 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: bastard that they are not seeking the death penalty. They 332 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: did accept a life sentence. Uh, And that was a 333 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: financial consideration. Rob first of all, lay out what those 334 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: numbers would look like. 335 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 7: Well, mister Jillon, of who are elected DA and I 336 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 7: spoke to the media at length yesterday and basically we 337 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 7: wanted to make this more about the families. Had it 338 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 7: come down to the families of these five victims being 339 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 7: vehemently objecting to this, we would have found a way 340 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 7: to go forward. But we are a very small county 341 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 7: northeast of Houston with a limited budget, a limited indigent 342 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 7: defense budget, And when you have a case involving seeking death, 343 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 7: you have the need for the defense to hire mitigation 344 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 7: experts and jury consultants and getting three attorneys, and that 345 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 7: involves trips between here in Mexico back and forth, and 346 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 7: that it would have been a tremendous burden on the county. 347 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 7: And I want everybody to be well aware that we 348 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 7: vetted this decision. We took it very seriously. We did 349 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 7: not take it lightly, and we vetted this decision very thoroughly. 350 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 7: And all of the victims family members speak they don't 351 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 7: speak Ay, they speak Spanish, and I was able to 352 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 7: communicate with them throughout, and they all had my cell phone, 353 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 7: and I've been in constant contact with all of them 354 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 7: for the last twenty one plus months and reaching this 355 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 7: decision that had their full approval. 356 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: It's frustrating because the underlying, the underlying frustration is at 357 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: the end of the day, that for instance, is a bastard. 358 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 7: He's a terrible, despicable excuse of a human being, and 359 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 7: as are the people that were there yelling support for him, 360 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 7: who are also intimidating the grieving family members of our victims. 361 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 7: It's terrible, and where nobody wins in a situation like this, 362 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 7: nobody situation. 363 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: What were they doing? 364 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm assuming they were screaming what they were 365 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: screaming in Spanish, But what did that look like? 366 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: In fact, you can report on it. 367 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, it's it's over, so I can say whatever, 368 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 7: it's it's dirty, looks, it's sneering, it's whistling, it's cat 369 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 7: calling at victims who were there to give victim impact statements, 370 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 7: who are trying to shut the chapter of grieving the 371 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: brutal murder. And I take exception to the defense saying 372 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 7: that he was provoked. Number one, The only source of 373 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 7: that information is the five time murderer. In two he 374 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 7: shot a nine year old kid defenseless. Todd and I 375 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 7: were there at the scene. There were no drugs, there 376 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 7: were no guns in that house, and he had to 377 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 7: barge through a door to shoot two of them. So 378 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 7: he can take that defense and shove it. 379 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: Since you will to try this case, why don't you 380 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 3: take one hundred and twenty seconds and walk me through 381 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: what happened that evening. 382 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: Okay, see how good you are? 383 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 7: Hey, this isn't a trails end. As a southeast subdivision 384 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 7: that has a lot of crime, a lot of problems 385 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 7: in southeast sanjusen A County, we neighbor liberty in Montgomery County, 386 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 7: there had been a dispute between the neighbors. Evidence would 387 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 7: have come out that Oropesa was very intoxicated that had 388 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 7: been shooting guns off earlier. They went over there, Hey, 389 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 7: we have a baby here stopped shooting. He kept shooting, 390 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 7: went over there, barged through the front door and killed 391 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 7: a man and a woman right there in the doorway, 392 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 7: killed a nine year old kid who was still alive 393 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 7: when the first deputy got there, and then two more 394 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 7: women in the left bedroom. Five people at least by 395 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 7: our account, fled out the back door. We got there, 396 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 7: we got to call mister Dylan, and I got to 397 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 7: call Todd was there first because I was down in 398 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 7: surf Side at the time, And we drove straight back 399 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: and we're there at nine o'clock in the morning, and 400 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 7: Todd and I have never ever seen as much blood 401 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 7: and as much violence as I have seen in my 402 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 7: twenty eight years doing this. He fled, obviously, there was 403 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: a multi agency task force that ended up arresting him 404 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 7: in Cut and Shoot, about five ten miles away without 405 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 7: incident that Todd and I then sat down with the family, 406 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 7: with the rangers, with the detectives and went through everything, 407 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 7: and we decided to seek the death penalty. Well in 408 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 7: doing so, which is a decision hard enough in and 409 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 7: of itself, there are harsh realities with doing that, and 410 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 7: we came face to face with those I wish we 411 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 7: had Harris County's resources. I wish we did. I don't 412 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 7: want that to serve as an excuse or a justification 413 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 7: for what we did. There was no question about gil 414 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 7: he confessed. He confessed. So the question was then dealing 415 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 7: with the future danger issue in mitigation and punishment, which 416 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 7: is where we were having a hard time, A much 417 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 7: harder time, because getting information from Mexico criminal history, et cetera. 418 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 7: It's extremely difficult, if not impossible. So we went through 419 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 7: everything and it was either try this case and not 420 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 7: try another jury trial for three years, or get this 421 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 7: result that the family was at peace with. Basically, that's 422 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 7: I don't know how many seconds of one hundred and twenty. 423 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Ye've it was ten seconds. 424 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 3: But you also went through a lot of a lot 425 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: of the courtroom drama. So that I give you, you got 426 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: to it pretty fast. I want to rewind and I 427 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: want to focus on something. So this bastard charp, This 428 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: bastard's fired off his gun and they say, hey, come on, 429 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: stop kids and all that. So I want to get 430 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: this step by step. He kicks down their door. 431 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: We I there was some form of forced entry because 432 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 7: they did have a video in place. There that was 433 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 7: only there in real time, meaning there was no recording 434 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 7: of it. So they saw him coming. 435 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: Okay, they were sitting ducks, all right. So he he 436 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: forcibly enters in some form or another. 437 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: And when he first enters within the four walls of 438 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: that room, yeah, kills how many three in that first 439 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: one Mama, daddy and I. 440 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 7: Don't I can't list exactly. I know that the little boy, 441 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 7: Daniel was killed right there. He was still alive. He 442 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 7: actually died in transmit transit to the to the hospital 443 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 7: in Liberty County. One thing that people don't know about 444 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 7: sanue Cino County. We do not have a hospital. We 445 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 7: do not have an intensive care, we don't have an er. 446 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 7: So if you are injured in this county, you're going 447 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 7: to the closest medical facility, be a Conroe, Regional, Livingston, Kingwood, 448 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 7: wherever it might be. We don't have a hospital. 449 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: Three die and then he at so there's no self defense, I. 450 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: Mean, even if you wanted done. He goes to another 451 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: room to kill more people. 452 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 7: Yes, immediately to the left, there were two women. I 453 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 7: believed one of them was twenty one. She was shot 454 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 7: in the closet holding. 455 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: Up, so he has to enter another threshold. He can't 456 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: argue she came in me. 457 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 7: No, not at all, and they were all unarmed anyway, yeah, yeah, 458 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 7: and then there were there were no guns in the 459 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 7: house that they located. There were guns in his house. 460 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: They located the murder weapon in his house next door. 461 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 7: They got it. 462 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: This guy's an executioner. 463 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 7: He was that night. Yes, without a doubt. We've never 464 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 7: disputed that. But the family did not want to face 465 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 7: having year. 466 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: I'm not criticizing your dude, I just regardless, long before 467 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: you got involved, things happened that you had nothing to 468 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: do with it. I think it's important people understood. 469 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: Hold on. Rob Friar, assistant mister attorney stas in Okay 470 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: telling called these little things clothing for a baby. I 471 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: like Madaberry's ship. You're support of all these ones. 472 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: Our guest is the first Assistant District Attorney in Santa 473 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: Cino County where Francisco or A Pesa massacred executed the 474 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 3: family living next to him in just Sanja, Sino County, 475 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: and then went on the run. 476 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: He was apprehended. He's pled guilty. 477 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: They are not seeking the death penalty, and the first 478 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: Assistant District attorney made himself available through a future through 479 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: a mutual friend of ours named Paul Doyle, and he 480 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: said the news is going to break on Wednesday. I 481 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: think this came in on Monday, and I'm sure Michael's 482 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: going to be very angry that we're not seeking the 483 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: death penalty. And that's certainly his right, his prerogative. But 484 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: you say it's from home because we're theiz Are. But 485 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: I do want him to understand what went into that 486 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: calculation and how important this case is to us, and 487 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: the finances behind why we made the decision, and the 488 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: family's involvement in it. And I loved that fact. I 489 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: love when Peter it's a Trump approach. Step up, even 490 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: if it's gonna be bad news, step up, face it 491 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: and answer the questions. All of that is fine. I 492 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: have no problem with this fella over any of that. 493 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: I do have a problem with the following, and I'm 494 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: gonna leave this to y'all's judgment. Okay, his first name 495 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: is Rob, his last name is spelled f R E 496 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: y E R. 497 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: Okay, after we go through a. 498 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: Whole segment, he's had his buddy reach out to me, 499 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: who happens to be my buddy, and we've been on 500 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: the air and we've emailed. He tells Ramone, it's no 501 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: big deal. Everybody gets it wrong. But just so he 502 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: knows my last name is. Now, how would y'all pronounce 503 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: f r E y e r? And he says Frayer 504 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: and I will I'll buy in. Okay, you don't have 505 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: to do the death penalty. I got it, you could 506 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: do this, but I'm not calling that Freyer promo you 507 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 3: yes or no. 508 00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who. 509 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: Came out with Frayer somewhere along the line, maybe at 510 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: Ellis Island. 511 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: Rob, how do you get Freyer out of f R 512 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: E y e R? 513 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 7: I don't know. I just thought you who came up 514 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 7: with them when I was born? Uh, they probably came 515 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 7: up with it when they came across the Atlantic Ocean 516 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 7: back in the eighteen forties, noranded in Savannah from Dresden, Germany. 517 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I think Friar sounds like like he fries people. 518 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: This is m fries people. 519 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: He's a friar one, and then you get like Friar. 520 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 7: I've heard them all, from Friar to ag Rob. I've 521 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 7: heard plenty of nicknames over the years, but Dresden, Germany 522 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 7: was where my dad's family came from. 523 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: I bet they said Friar, truth be told. 524 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: Maybe you know a lot of R E I R. 525 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 5: I'm not sure I'm gonna do some work, Rob Freyer. 526 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Freyer because you asked nicely. But it 527 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 5: just seems like it just feels like Friar is a 528 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 5: better stage. And here's a fre oh man who got 529 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: the case. Oh you got, you got the guy. It's 530 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 5: not his nickname, it's really his name is Friar. You 531 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 5: do not want you know why I call him Fryar 532 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: because he fries people. Yes, yes, you should plead the life. 533 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 5: You do not want to go to trial against this guy? 534 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: Right that also ought to say, Hey, I'm gonna milk 535 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: you for every dollar I got, or the taxpayer for 536 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 3: every dollar I got. You don't want to go to 537 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: trial on this guy. Fryar will fry you, but I'll 538 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: call you Rob Freyr for the purposes of here, how much? 539 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: What do you doing? 540 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 10: You? 541 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 9: Is this you? 542 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: Inmate eighty four accused of trying to kill prosecutor Yes 543 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: Brett Liggan Sireta Kenfield allegedly sought to have him attacked oh, 544 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: you used. 545 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: To work for Brett. 546 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 7: I did thirteen years. Wow? 547 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: Okay uh charges of solicitation of capital murder and solicitation 548 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: commit aggravated assault on a public servant. H Kenfield told 549 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: other jail inmates of her plans to seek someone to 550 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: kill Freyer. 551 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: And attack lig him. How come you get killed and 552 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: Brett only gets attacked. 553 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 7: Because it was right around the time that happened where 554 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 7: that nut job up in Kaufman murdered the DA and 555 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 7: his wife, and she didn't want to draw any more heat, 556 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 7: so she just wanted to put Brett in the hospital 557 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 7: and kill me for the tune of five grand. That's 558 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 7: all I was worth on the market to this way. 559 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 7: He was five thousand dollars. 560 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and but twenty five hundred for Brett. 561 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 7: Yes, a hospital job for twenty five hundred, and murder 562 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 7: for me. Unfortunately for the for her, she was broke, 563 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 7: and she was also talking to an undercover police officer 564 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 7: that was on her visitation list. So the entire hit 565 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 7: was done from jail and it was recorded. 566 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: It was a so he didn't agree to you. 567 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 7: Oh, he did agree to kill me, and then they 568 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 7: fake arrested him. It was it was perfect and then 569 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 7: showed her the vio of him being you know, quote arrested. 570 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 7: She confessed, and then they asked her after they booked 571 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 7: her in on the new charge, that she had any questions, 572 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 7: and she said, yeah, can you get me a better 573 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 7: mat for my it's too hard. See, if she hadn't. 574 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: Been so cheap and she'd offered a little more money, 575 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: he might have actually broke character and done it. 576 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 7: Maybe. I mean, he was a full time Harris County 577 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 7: DA investigator with a good retirement, so I think I 578 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 7: think he played the part and did a good job. 579 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 7: And yeah, it was probably the dumbest hit job ever 580 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 7: and I was the recipient of it. 581 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: I was speaking to the San Jacino County Republican Party 582 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: the Saturday night the guy. I think all this happened 583 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: on a Saturday, and the guy was still on the 584 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: run at the time, and I was scheduled to sit 585 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: at the table with the sheriff and a wonderful family. 586 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: The Ares Pays out of Kingwood had written the check 587 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: to cover my fee, and I was speaking on Saturday night. 588 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: My brother was being honored in Austin the. 589 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: Next day for officers that died, and so we finished 590 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: the speech, drove to Austin. Uncle Jerry drove me, drove 591 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: to Austin, got up early next morning, and then they 592 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: had the event. I remember this like was yesterday and 593 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: uh I remember that guy had gone on the run 594 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: and I remember the fear. I don't know how long 595 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: was he on the run before before they caught him. 596 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 7: I think it was five days. Okay, it happened on 597 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 7: a Saturday. I think Thursday evening was when they found 598 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 7: him hiding in a laundry room and under a bunch 599 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 7: of clothes in a house in cut and Shoot, which 600 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 7: is about it. 601 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: It's hot. 602 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 7: Cut and Shoot is east of Conroe, between Conroe and 603 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 7: Cleveland off of one oh five. That's where they found 604 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 7: him in Montgomery County. 605 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I do remember it being Montgomery County. Yeah. 606 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: Okay, did they send in Rockton or one of the 607 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: German shepherds to get him or how'd they find him? 608 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 609 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 7: The dog, the dog didn't get a chance to get 610 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 7: at him. He just up into the Vortac. Guys from 611 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 7: Homeland Security were the guys that located him. They received, 612 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 7: they being everybody, thousands of tips over a five day period. 613 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 7: I mean, I commend all the officers. They came from Beaumont, Bashdrop, Bellville, 614 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 7: they came from everywhere. 615 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: Every town starting with a Bee. 616 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 7: Every town with a B, every town with an A 617 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 7: or aer Well, and they came Yeah, Balager, Bernie, Bville. 618 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 7: They came from everywhere. So we conser hard work as 619 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 7: well well. Rob. 620 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate you being willing to come on and explain this. 621 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 3: Obviously our emotion relates to this turd, not to you, 622 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: but sometimes we can displace that. I would have loved 623 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: for him to have received the death penalty. I think 624 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: our system, which is not your fault, is designed to 625 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: give him too many rights and to handcuff the victims 626 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: and the people who are prosecuting. I appreciate the fact 627 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: that you do this for a living, because you could 628 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: make more money if you were on asso side of 629 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: the aisle than representing the good guys. And obviously you've 630 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: done it for multiple counties and you make a lot 631 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: less than you could, and so you may not get 632 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: a lot of praise every day for the work you do, 633 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: but you're going to get it here. So thank you, 634 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: first assistant District Attorney. I wasn't the first assistant District 635 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: Attorney of San Jacino County Rob Prayer for being a 636 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: public servant just like those firefighters and putting this guy away. 637 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: President Trump will speak. 638 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: On the crash last night. We'll go live to that. 639 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: Its scheduled to begin in just a minute. It may 640 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: start late, but we'll go to it live, pain tight,