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Speaker 4: Tough scene if you're a Lakers fan such as myself.

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Speaker 4: Luka Doncic has officially been ruled out for the rest

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Speaker 4: of the regular season and the timetable to return is

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Speaker 4: indefinite grade two hamstring strain. In case you guys wanted

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Speaker 4: to know historically about how long it takes to return

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Speaker 4: from injury like that, they listed as three to six weeks.

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Speaker 4: But according to in Street Close, which is the preeminent

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Speaker 4: NBA injury account on social media, the average time to

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Speaker 4: return to play from a hamstring injury of that level

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Speaker 4: thirty five days. Now, what makes this one even worse, guys, is,

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Speaker 4: as you know, it took place during a blowout.

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Speaker 5: OKC beat the Lakers by.

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Speaker 2: Forty three points.

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Speaker 4: Look got blowed out, Luca got hurt in early in

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Speaker 4: the third quarter, and to make things even worse than that.

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Speaker 4: He had been seen in the first and second quarters

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Speaker 4: grabbing at his hamstring, wincing a little bit in pain,

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Speaker 4: and even still, JJ Reddick insisted, let's keep him out there,

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Speaker 4: let's play. Said he had no regrets about leaving him

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Speaker 4: in because they determined that he was fit to play.

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Speaker 6: All right, there you go. That's what you do. You

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Speaker 6: make an excuse when it goes the wrong way. And

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Speaker 6: I'm blaming JJ Reddick whatever anybody wants to it. There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of things that he did. Remember the playoff

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Speaker 6: game that lost when they didn't play put in the

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Speaker 6: reserves in and they all got burnt out right late

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Speaker 6: in the game and the Lakers lost, And that was

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Speaker 6: another one. He of course, he didn't do anything wrong.

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Speaker 6: It's a blowed out. They're getting blowed out seven and

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Speaker 6: a half minutes. They were not coming back under any circumstance.

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Speaker 6: You gotta read the room. You gotta read the room.

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Speaker 6: Why why is he playing? Is it because of some award?

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Speaker 6: Is it because you want to keep him out there

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Speaker 6: so he could get his numbers? Or is it about

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Speaker 6: the Lakers making a real run going forward? Could it

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Speaker 6: happen the next game. Sure it could happen the next game,

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Speaker 6: but it hurts. It hurts even more when you look

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Speaker 6: at it and go seven thirty nine left in the

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Speaker 6: third quarter in a blowed out game, and Luca, the

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Speaker 6: twenty six year old with a thirty six year old body,

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Speaker 6: winds up getting hurt and now your season's over.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you don't regret it.

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Speaker 6: JJ good sounds good, stand on business, Tell everybody you're

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Speaker 6: right about everything, and you're never wrong on any situation.

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Speaker 6: Guy I want I don't want a guy like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to know it all. I don't want

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Speaker 6: and that was a mistake. With Luca, there are circumstances,

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Speaker 6: situations and blowouts where it's like, hit the shower, let's

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Speaker 6: get some other people some playing time. This game ain't happen,

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Speaker 6: and it wasn't happening from the very beginning. It didn't

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Speaker 6: plenty of time when they went at it to go

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Speaker 6: because you know what I'm thinking, I don't want to

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Speaker 5: It's a blowout. We could use you for the next game.

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Speaker 6: We can't win this game tonight, So I know people

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Speaker 6: but now your season's over. So if you want to

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Speaker 6: take get on that bus, you're fine to get on

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Speaker 6: that bus. But I'm calling that the short bus because

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Speaker 6: I don't think that this was a right move for

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's easy to say, it's why it's

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Speaker 7: Oh he's says Friday and I know, I know, but

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Speaker 7: then that's what they call it that And I think

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Speaker 7: Can the starters go out here and close this gap

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Speaker 7: historic comeback. But let's go out here, let's set the momentum,

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Speaker 7: let's get things started. This is the barometer if we're

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Speaker 7: trying to win a championship the Thunder. Last time he

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Speaker 7: thirteen and one in our last fourteen Luka, you've becoming

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the barometer.

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Speaker 7: This is the measuring stick, and I want you all

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Speaker 7: in this game, Starters, and understand what this is gonna

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Speaker 7: It wasn't as if this was the fourth quarter, six

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Speaker 2: I'd get that.

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Speaker 7: I'd be much more inclined to be like, all right, JJ,

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Speaker 7: you were taking it a little too far. So the

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Speaker 7: seven thirty nine and the third quarter is not asinine.

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Speaker 7: And Luca, I just said it yesterday to you on

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Speaker 7: the air. I said, man, Luca always wins his before

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Speaker 7: this is before the game even started. Luca every single

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Speaker 7: or he's ah, he's always doing that. And we joked,

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Speaker 7: I said, you always call him the old man body

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Speaker 7: looks old. So I think this was a matter of

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Speaker 7: them playing the best team in the NBA, the Randy Champs,

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Speaker 7: trying to keep the starters in to say, hey, y'all

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Speaker 7: been ourselves. The world's been telling us, we're back in

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Speaker 7: this thing. The world's been telling us how great we are.

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Speaker 7: Best month of March fifteen and two, Luca, you're back

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Speaker 7: in the MVP race. This is a reminder of what

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Speaker 7: we're gonna face when we get in the playoffs. This

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Speaker 7: is a reminder of the caliber ball we need to

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Speaker 7: and at some point, probably three minute mark, two minute

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Speaker 7: don't have a problem with him trying to get his

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Speaker 7: easy for anybody to say it now, but I don't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that game was a blowoff from jump. It wasn't

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Speaker 6: a blowout in the second half. It was a blowof

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Speaker 6: and play the third quarter. It was with seven and

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Speaker 6: got a different argument that that's not what happened. And

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Speaker 6: my point is this is a terrible loss, not only

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Speaker 5: So so very nice.

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Speaker 6: Uh, And I think JJ just refuses to acknowledge that

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Speaker 6: maybe he should have considered it and thought about what

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Speaker 6: that kind of game. They weren't gonna get any style points,

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Speaker 6: they weren't gonna get anything from that. There will blowout games,

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Speaker 6: and you know what, in those games, sometimes you just

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Speaker 6: have to let them go and wash them and flush

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Speaker 6: them down the toilet. You don't get anything from it.

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Speaker 6: Loose instead of losing by thirty, you lose by twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Is not going to change anything in that circumstance.

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Speaker 7: So that such things that I hear you. But there's

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Speaker 7: such things as statement moment statement games. And for the

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Speaker 7: Lakers again, this was all right, we've been playing extraps exceptionally.

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Speaker 2: Well are we that good?

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Speaker 7: This is the barometer you want to be able to say,

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Speaker 7: all right, we're losing. That happens. Are we gonna fight back?

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Speaker 7: Are we gonna push back, Are we gonna lay down?

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Speaker 7: Or are we gonna fight back and try to make it,

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Speaker 7: you know, get back in this game and show some

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Speaker 2: And that's what he was gonna do to Aprarock to

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Speaker 7: To five minutes, three minute, two minute mark, and then

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Speaker 2: We can make this thing. Or if you're still down thirty,

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Speaker 2: you wave the white flag.

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Speaker 7: So I think it was well heading towards that way

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Speaker 7: where you wave the white flag. It's just an unfortunate

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Speaker 7: thing that happened to Luca where I don't know if

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Speaker 7: his bining body is finally broken down for the rest

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Speaker 7: of the whole entire season, including the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 6: But well, in three to six weeks, you don't think

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Speaker 6: that that's the You're not rushing him back of all people.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm saying the playoffs as well. I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I have to see who the matchup

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if you if you kind of if

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Speaker 7: to a five to six seven game series, does he

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Speaker 7: come back then you know that'd be like three weeks

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Speaker 6: I would not rush Luca back under any circumstances given

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Speaker 6: his history. He's already always banged up, something going on,

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Speaker 6: and it's your franchise player.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine like it just to me doesn't make

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Speaker 5: any sense.

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Speaker 6: He has to be one hundred percent for me, or

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Speaker 6: it's close to it.

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Speaker 7: With a buzzsaw like the Thunder and maybe even the Spurs,

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Speaker 7: I would be much more inclined to say, no, we

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Speaker 7: got to push through.

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Speaker 2: You never know with Luca in the way he's been playing.

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Speaker 7: But this year, I'm agreeing that the Thunder to me

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Speaker 7: are just clearly the best team.

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Speaker 2: The Spurs right there saying, hey, don't forget about me, Kelvin.

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Speaker 7: Uh So, it's one of those seasons where you weren't

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Speaker 7: gonna win anyway. I've been saying the Thunder since they

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Speaker 7: got the confetti in her face last year, so it's

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Speaker 7: gonna be.

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Speaker 2: It was an uphill battle even if he was healthy.

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Speaker 5: Some video.

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Speaker 6: You know it's great because you know the cops have

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Speaker 5: Just talking to the president. And that kind of raised

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, boy, talk about trying to flex on people. Right,

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Speaker 5: I was just talking to the president. Somebody by the

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Speaker 6: But but Kelvin, I'm to be real, and I've talked

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Speaker 6: I told you I was on my honeymoon in Tokyo

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Speaker 5: Right, that's the body cam that It was great that

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Speaker 7: How many times has he gotten in trouble in Florida

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Speaker 7: And then it makes me concern Rob that will shoot,

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Speaker 7: how many times has he had these traffic incidents?

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Speaker 2: These are just the ones we know about, right.

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Speaker 7: We know about the one that happened first of all,

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Speaker 7: I said, when I immediately thought, how many times has he

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Speaker 2: It's just been tragic what's happened.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's God covering his life and

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Speaker 7: Sad to watch the downfall of one of the again

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Speaker 7: when it went downhill ever since then.

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Speaker 6: And that Tiger Woods commercial we're talking about, he doesn't

441
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Speaker 6: say it, but it's a commercial that talks about right,

442
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Speaker 6: he couldn't play. There's certain country clubs he wouldn't be

443
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Speaker 6: able allowed to play in. But you got my point. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 6: that was videos of That was the tone of the.

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Speaker 4: Commercial, right, No, the tone of the commercial is, these

446
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Speaker 4: are all the things that I've done and are you

447
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Speaker 4: ready for me? Like, hello world, I'm Tiger Woods. So

448
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Speaker 4: I am a three time amateur champion. I've shot in

449
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Speaker 4: the sixties when I was twelve. Then towards the end

450
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Speaker 4: of the commercial, he says, there are still courses in

451
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Speaker 4: the United States allowed to play the color of my skin.

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Speaker 6: There you go, and then and that and that's my

453
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Speaker 6: whole point is that that was the tiger Woods until

454
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Speaker 6: they got to him like, like seriously, Well, his.

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Speaker 4: Very very first commercial with Nike, because that was one

456
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Speaker 4: of the early ones, his very first one. Then it

457
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Speaker 4: was actually a great commercial, actually was it's him doing

458
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Speaker 4: golf stuff, but he never talks in it. He's just

459
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Speaker 4: in the back of the show is swing whatever. And

460
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Speaker 4: it's a bunch of little kids of different ages and

461
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Speaker 4: ethnicities saying, I am Tiger Woods. And it's a black kid,

462
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Speaker 4: one's an Asian kid with a Mexican kid. There's one

463
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Speaker 4: with a kids standing behind a sign that says like welfare,

464
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Speaker 4: there's one of a kids standing front of That's what

465
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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So he was trying to appeal that anybody

466
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Speaker 4: can golf, no matter who you are like, and that

467
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Speaker 4: was his whole marketing campaign.

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Speaker 6: And when I think of it, the last thing I'm

469
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Speaker 6: gonna say is when you consider the impact he had

470
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Speaker 6: and you just talked about the other players who would

471
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Speaker 6: put on this sports impact, right, Yeah, impact is probably

472
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Speaker 6: because Babe Ruth was doing something like people who don't

473
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Speaker 6: know when Babe Ruth was hitting fifty home runs Kelvin,

474
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Speaker 6: other guys in the big leagues were hitting five home

475
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Speaker 6: runs like it was. It was like something like out

476
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Speaker 6: of this world, and so he had a huge impact

477
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Speaker 6: on how.

478
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Speaker 5: Baseball became popular.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, my point is that through all of his

480
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Speaker 6: successes and everything, we didn't get a black golfer. We

481
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Speaker 6: didn't get too black, We didn't get any black golfers.

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Speaker 5: Like I mind boggling.

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Speaker 6: Because a lot of black people took up golf when

484
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Speaker 6: Tyger am I right and started going out there with

485
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Speaker 6: Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 7: It's amazinging more recreational than professional. And you can see

487
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Speaker 7: the trick of the effect of the Williams sisters cause

488
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Speaker 7: you started to get the.

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Speaker 5: Naomi Osaka That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the Cocos Golf's, you got the Sloan Stevens,

491
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Speaker 7: you got I mean, I can go Madison Keys, you

492
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Speaker 7: can go on and on. You started to see the

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Speaker 7: trickle down and when it comes to golf, I mean tennis,

494
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Speaker 7: we never quite got that in golf, which is interesting

495
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Speaker 7: considering again how massive Tiger Woods. I mean, my gosh,

496
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Speaker 7: Like I said, other than Michael Jordan, the last fifty years,

497
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Speaker 7: I don't know if there's anyone bigger in sports than

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Speaker 7: Tiger Woods was in America at least.

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Speaker 6: This is an interesting conversation. I love to hear from

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Speaker 6: people if you're listening. Given the way his career has

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Speaker 6: played out and all his transgressions, all you were ashamed

502
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Speaker 6: of being a Tiger Woods fan at this point, or no,

503
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Speaker 6: he's lived up to it, or people make mistakes and

504
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Speaker 6: you just accept it and it's just about his greatness

505
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Speaker 6: on the golf course, or maybe it just doesn't bother

506
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Speaker 6: you at all, you don't have a feeling. I'm just

507
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Speaker 6: telling you how invested I was to be on my

508
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Speaker 6: honeymoon in Japan and given that time to Tiger Woods.

509
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Speaker 6: I get it where that's really where I was. For me,

510
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Speaker 6: It's personal, do you know what I mean? Like, seriously,

511
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Speaker 6: I could have easily. I wasn't working, I was on vacation,

512
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Speaker 6: I was on my honeymoon. I could have turned the

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Speaker 6: TV off and said no, That's how big it was

514
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Speaker 6: to me.

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Speaker 7: I think Rod, I think the lesson learned from me

516
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Speaker 7: just now because it's learned earlier. But it is a

517
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Speaker 7: reminder that athletes are still humans who have their own

518
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Speaker 7: demons and issues, and we can't keep putting them up

519
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Speaker 7: here where they're almost superhuman.

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Speaker 6: I'm not asking for anybody to be perfect. But he's

521
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Speaker 6: done like a top which I know what I mean.

522
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying this is not after all the other train.

523
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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you, like where he was in my eyes.

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Speaker 7: Listen, he's missed it. He's missed in a lot of areas.

525
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Speaker 7: In the last time fifteen.

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Speaker 7: Rob g we were just talking about this now with Luca.

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Speaker 7: We had to talk about it. Was it maybe a

532
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Speaker 7: week a week and a half ago with Cade obviously

533
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Speaker 7: having an MVP calider obviously I don't think he was

534
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Speaker 7: gonna win, but having an MVP caliber season up for awards,

535
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Speaker 7: and it just seems like we keep having to have

536
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Speaker 7: these conversations pretty much every week over the last month

537
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Speaker 7: as some big name drops out of the candidacy for

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Speaker 7: a big award.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's big facts.

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Speaker 4: We've been talking about a little bit yesterday during one

541
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Speaker 4: of the updates when it was announced with Anthony Edwards

542
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Speaker 4: missing the game that he was ineligible. So in the

543
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Speaker 4: last whatever two weeks, you've had two guys at least

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Speaker 4: who look like they were locks for First Team All NBA,

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Speaker 4: Katee and Luca, a guy who was a lock for

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Speaker 4: one of the All NBA teams, and Anthony Edwards all

547
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Speaker 4: ruled ineligible, which is made again the spotlight on this

548
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Speaker 4: sixty five game rule. What's interesting about this one is

549
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Speaker 4: we know the details already. We know sixty five games.

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Speaker 4: That's been debated at nauseum right. What's interesting is to

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Speaker 4: win the scoring title, which Luca would win if the

552
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Speaker 4: season ended today, you only need fifty eight games. So

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Speaker 4: it looks like he's gonna get that one. He's not

554
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Speaker 4: gonna get any the All NBA love, but it'll get that.

555
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Speaker 4: And here's the other one. The rule does not apply

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Speaker 4: to the sixth Man of the Year, Rookie of the Year,

557
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Speaker 4: All Rookie, or Clutch Player of the Year awards, so

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Speaker 4: it only applies for Defensive Player, Most Improved MVP, and

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Speaker 4: All NBA. Last, but not least, this is one I know.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna blow your guys mind. Victor Winn Benyama widely

561
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Speaker 4: seen as the second favorite to win the MVP award

562
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Speaker 4: by an SGA. Did you know that coming into Friday's action.

563
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Speaker 4: Luka Doncic has played roughly five hundred more minutes than

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Speaker 4: Wemby this season, and Anthony Edwards and Kate Cunningham have

565
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Speaker 4: both played roughly three hundred more minutes than Victor went Benyama. Guys,

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Speaker 4: given what we've seen and given the facts I've laid

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Speaker 4: it before, you, has your opinion on the sixty five

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Speaker 4: game rule changed at all?

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 7: It sucks if you're a Lakers fan and you were

571
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Speaker 7: rooting for Luca to have a chance for any award,

572
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Speaker 7: or for obviously MVP. If you're a Pistons fan obviously myself,

573
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Speaker 7: but you're rooting Oh man, Kay Cunningham. What a season

574
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Speaker 7: it really? But the facts still remained, Rogie, I keep

575
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Speaker 7: saying this weekend week out, most MVPs have played. I

576
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Speaker 7: think it's ninety three percent of the games those particular seasons.

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Speaker 7: You have one exception. I think it was like Bill

578
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Speaker 7: Walton back in the seventies. Guys played majority of the games.

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Speaker 7: They average around seventy six out.

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Speaker 2: Of the eighty two games.

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Speaker 7: When you look at the history of MVPs, So to me,

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Speaker 7: part of you being an MVP was being an MVA.

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Speaker 7: The most Valuable available, you know what I mean, And

584
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Speaker 7: you gotta play the games. You had to have had

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Speaker 7: an impact of the season for the vast I mean

586
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Speaker 7: the vast majority of the season. And it sucks and

587
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Speaker 7: it's difficult, but it also reiterates the point why are

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Speaker 7: we even here? Why are so many of the great

589
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Speaker 7: players who would be the MVP candidate guys?

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Speaker 2: Why are they all out?

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Speaker 7: I don't remember seasons where all of them, Michael Jordan, Carlolo,

592
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Speaker 7: Charles Barkley, Keeve O Lajuwan and whoever else would have

593
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Speaker 7: been a caliber if that season all being playing lesson

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Speaker 7: you know, sixty semi games. Like you may have a

595
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Speaker 7: guy that was the year such and such was hurt,

596
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Speaker 7: but not all the top seven eight players all, you know,

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Speaker 7: with a chance to be ineligible, Like what is going

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Speaker 7: on that guys can't play seventy three, seventy four, seventy

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Speaker 7: five games and up rob Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember a season where it was Shaq.

601
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Speaker 7: Kobe, Steve Nash, Dirk and Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan

602
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Speaker 7: like all of like six of the seven guys I

603
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 7: just named or whatever all being playing less than sixty

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Speaker 7: five games.

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 7: That was the reason the rule was even made, because

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Speaker 7: guys weren't playing, whether they were choosing to, whether it

608
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Speaker 7: was low management where they were just not playing through

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Speaker 7: you know, minor injuries.

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Speaker 2: Yet somehow we're still here, rob and even more.

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Speaker 7: So because even more big names are ineligible, Like make

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Speaker 7: it make sense.

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Speaker 6: I just think it's an anomaly that it happened. Sometimes

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Speaker 6: we've seen years. I remember when they invoked the in

615
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Speaker 6: the grasp rule in the NFL. The reason that they

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Speaker 6: put that in was because all of these quarterbacks, big

617
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Speaker 6: time quarterbacks, got hurt in the same season. So they

618
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Speaker 6: came up with the rule. If you just grab as jersey,

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Speaker 6: it's a sack, you know what I mean. We don't

620
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Speaker 6: want you to push somebody down. So what happens sometimes,

621
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, where stars can wind up

622
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Speaker 6: all getting hurt in this particular season. But I'm sorry,

623
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Speaker 6: it's just gotta be this way. It's unfortunate. But to me,

624
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Speaker 6: they didn't play enough games. You already gave the number

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Speaker 6: that most of the MVPs played. When you say seventy six,

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Speaker 6: seventy six is a big difference from six that's nine

627
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Speaker 6: ten games. That's a lot of games. And I get

628
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Speaker 6: the minutes. I just think we talked about it. I

629
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Speaker 6: don't want to be the dead horse. It's just the

630
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Speaker 6: baseball with the three point one played appearances, you know,

631
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Speaker 6: make it easier so that it's not a certain amount

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Speaker 6: of games, you know what I mean, You just need

633
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Speaker 6: to get.

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Speaker 5: Enough at bats in order to qualify.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what they could do in basketball to

636
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Speaker 6: have something like that where it's a numbers minutes shots,

637
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like something that would give

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Speaker 6: you that and then you're not with Rob g brought

639
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Speaker 6: up to five hundred more minutes and the two hundred

640
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Speaker 6: more minutes or whatever it was, right, three hundred more minutes.

641
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Speaker 6: Then maybe you could kind of play around with that,

642
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, rather than a number of games.

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Speaker 6: And those guys were probably qualified because they played enough minutes.

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Speaker 5: That would be my one.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I do think that almost to me

646
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Speaker 7: is a.

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Speaker 2: Way another bonus or feather in the cap four.

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Speaker 7: What Wenby is doing in such a short amount of

649
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Speaker 7: minutes he's averaging I think it's like thirty thirty one

650
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 7: minutes a game something like that, And what he's doing

651
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Speaker 7: in that short amount of time.

652
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Speaker 2: Most of your starters at that elite level.

653
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Speaker 7: You know you're giving it any what, thirty eight to

654
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Speaker 7: forty one minutes somewhere in there. So what he's doing

655
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Speaker 7: in thirty minutes is absolutely crazy. Right now, you give

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Speaker 7: and you're like twenty four to twelve four blocks, so

657
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 7: on and so forth. So I think it's almost scarier

658
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 7: when you look at wait a minute, Womby's doing all this.

659
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 7: His team is that great there, you know, right behind

660
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 7: Homo City Thunder in the West.

661
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: And he's only playing thirty minutes a game.

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00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 7: That's a compliment to how good the Spurs are, compliment

663
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 7: to how good he is, and scary to think what

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 7: he would be like if he played another you know,

665
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 7: seven to ten minutes a game. My gosh, what would

666
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 7: the average thirty five seventeen and seven blocks. So yeah,

667
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 7: Wimby is absolutely scary. But I just think you gotta

668
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 7: play rob like I shouldn't. It's okay if whatever reason

669
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 7: or whatever year you just didn't win MVP, you just

670
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 7: weren't healthy enough. Like that happens throughout years. You don't think,

671
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 7: you don't typically expect it to happen. There's so many

672
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 7: MVP caliber guys, but it's okay. It's unfortunate, but it happens,

673
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 7: and I'm okay with not awarding a guy who.

674
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: Played sixty one sixty two games MVP.

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00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 7: Now, the only thing I would have a conversation about

676
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 7: I would consider is the All NBA, because you need

677
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: fifteen guys to feel that those slots, right, you got

678
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 7: to have your first, five, second, five, third team All NBA.

679
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 7: So if a guy played sixty games, I'd be all

680
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 7: right with him being All NBA because you're not saying

681
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 7: you singularly were the best player this whole season. So

682
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 7: I would be okay if I was part of the

683
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Speaker 7: rules committee or whatever rethinking that one, because I got

684
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 7: to slot fifteen guys anyway, so it's it's not as

685
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 7: if I'm singling out a singular guys the best. I

686
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 7: would consider that. But as far as MVP, it sucks.

687
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 7: But it makes sense. There was a reason we got

688
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 7: to this just.

689
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: A one time. Yeah, there's a reason we're here.

690
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 6: Like before, this wasn't an issue, but some people were

691
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: missing so many games you had to put some sort

692
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 6: of guardrails on it.

693
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 5: And that's where we are. And now it.

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Speaker 6: Might be the case this year, but this is a

695
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 6: one off, like really like the idea that so many

696
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 6: of these guys got hurt and won't be able to

697
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 6: participate as far as being the running for some of

698
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 6: the major awards. It's just the first time thing, you know,

699
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 6: like a one time thinking. I don't think you need

700
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: to relook at the rule or do anything. I think

701
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 6: that the rule makes sense and it also makes people

702
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 6: accountable and having to play, and you just can't take

703
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 6: off whenever you want and say, oh, every year, I'm

704
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 6: gonna miss fifteen games.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, And I'm gonna agreement.

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: And that's where we were.

707
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 7: It got bad, right, and it wasn't just legitimate injuries.

708
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 7: It was ah, just not tonight, it's a back to back,

709
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 7: or this is fourth game and six bad.

710
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 5: It's a bad team. We can win, we can win

711
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: without them, you know what I mean.

712
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 7: It's like, No, that's what makes you an MVP. It's

713
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 7: pushing through playing through it. And that's why the season

714
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 7: was special, right. MVP is saying you were special that year.

715
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: You were the guy that year, and part of it

716
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 7: should absolutely be availability as well.

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00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: In my opinion,