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Speaker 2: All right, here we be on a Tuesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: steep Tasker One Bill's Live, your program of choice. Thanks

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Speaker 1: I like days like this, though, you do, yeah, where

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Speaker 1: I barely make it to my seat in time for

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Speaker 1: the show to start. Oh those yeah, yeah, fun day.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen often.

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Speaker 1: Good times, good times.

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Speaker 2: But we are here, and I think we're ready to

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Speaker 2: turn the page. After yesterday's hashing and rehashing of how

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Speaker 2: last Sunday's game finished up, I think we've exhausted that sufficiently,

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Speaker 2: and much like the coordinators and head coach Sean mcdermotsay

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Speaker 2: when they addressed the media yesterday, they said, look, we've

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Speaker 2: got to learn from it and move forward, because you

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Speaker 2: can't change it, can't change what happened, but you can

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Speaker 2: handle it better in the future. And I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: everything like the defense not performing up to their standard.

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Speaker 2: You know, whatever happened at the end of the game,

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Speaker 2: blocked pun during the game, all that stuff has to

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Speaker 2: get poured over and evaluated and then corrected accordingly. And

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Speaker 2: you know the coaching staff did that yesterday. They're already

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Speaker 2: putting in the game plan for the Lions. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to turn the page here too. In much the

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Speaker 2: same way, no real injury updates to speak of from

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Speaker 2: coach McDermott. He basically punted until Wednesday when he addresses

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Speaker 2: the media again because he was asked about the potential

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Speaker 2: availability of Dalton Kincaid and Keon Coleman this week, as

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Speaker 2: each of them have missed about a month of the

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Speaker 2: season now, and he said, we'll have to wait until

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Speaker 2: Wednesday get more information on that. Same thing on Rasul Douglas,

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Speaker 2: who left the game initially with a back injury on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: then came back in played a series and suffered a

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Speaker 2: knee injury, so we'll have to find out what his

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Speaker 2: availability is. Among others in the game, we know Casey

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's strange to think that, you know, without Keon Coleman,

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Speaker 1: without Dalton Kinkaid. The Bills hung forty two points on

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Speaker 1: the Rams last week, even it wasn't a loss, and

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at it, and it's become common.

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Speaker 1: It's almost a running joke for Bills fans. Every time

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Speaker 1: the Bills lose a game. It's like some first time

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Speaker 1: ever kind of scenario. That's how good they've been playing,

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Speaker 1: uh with no matter what happened to the defense and

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Speaker 1: special teams this last week, they're tough to beat. They're

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Speaker 1: really tough to beat, and we'll see if that continues.

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Speaker 1: But getting those guys back on the field now, you

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Speaker 1: start to wonder, hanging they've been out for a minute, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, neither of them were put on injured reserve, which

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Speaker 2: led most of us to believe that they would not

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Speaker 2: miss four games. Coleman has missed four games now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I think I'll have to check. I think and

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Speaker 2: Caid has as well. I'm trying to remember if they

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Speaker 1: I think they did.

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Speaker 2: Caid went out after the Colts game, so yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: been out four and I think Coleman has as well,

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Speaker 2: maybe even longer. I'll have to check when we get

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Speaker 1: He's only missed three games four weeks because of the bye, gotcha,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of why we think.

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Speaker 2: Coleman has missed four, because he missed the Colts game too.

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Speaker 1: Right, so he's missing four five weeks in total.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's so that's what you know. Usually if

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Speaker 2: you don't put a player on injury reserve, it's because

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Speaker 2: They're they're both past that. Well, Kincaid has three, Coleman

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's clearly taken longer than they probably

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Speaker 2: practicing fully. So we'll see if and when that happens

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Speaker 2: this week. This week's game at the Lions, incidentally, is

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Speaker 2: And you know, I was just trying to crunch some

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Speaker 2: this week, and we knew the Lions were really good.

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Speaker 2: They're really good at just about everything, most not the

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Speaker 2: least of which is points scored and points allowed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're first in the league in scoring. I think most

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Speaker 2: they're outscoring teams by two touchdowns with their point on average.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, their point differential is something special, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: They're hitting on all cylinders and they're you know, they've

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Speaker 1: got they've got that vibe going, that's what. And they've

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Speaker 1: big proponent. You heard me, Brownieyeah, you know, it happened

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Speaker 2: And they have they've lost. They got thirteen defensive players

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Speaker 1: Their defense has paid the price and got nicked again

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Speaker 1: this week because Allen McNeil, one of their defensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: still is in back their linebacker. Their last two wins

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see they continue to play extremely good,

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Speaker 1: and you know that's it's a credit to their culture

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Speaker 2: A barren wasteland of mediocrity. We'll get into more of

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Speaker 2: the Lions in just a bit because it involves our

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion, but first we have to go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL, which is presented by Collida Healthy, official healthcare

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Speaker 2: system of the Buffalo Bills. Monday Night Football, Bengals get

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Speaker 2: a twenty seven to twenty went over the Cowboys. Dallas

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Speaker 2: had a chance to flip the game as they blocked

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Speaker 2: a punt, but Amani or Rauwaria attempted to recover it

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Speaker 2: his fingers, free for the Bengals to recover and retain possession,

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Speaker 2: which they did. That gave the Bengals new life. Joe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see there, look at the bones. He's like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, that's it's a mistake. You can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Just get away from the balls and get away or your.

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Speaker 1: Bat or slap it into the sixth throw. That's It's

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Speaker 1: just it's a Leon Leppt kind of play.

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Speaker 2: Well every yeah, everyone in Dallas remembered the Leon let

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Speaker 2: they lost to the Dolphins because of that.

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Speaker 1: And the Dolphins had home field because of that. Oh

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Speaker 2: So that happens your neck and neck with the.

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Speaker 1: We're neck and neck with the Miami Dolphins in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety whatever, and we're trying to get the home field

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Speaker 1: like ninety three, ninety four, And sure enough, Leon they

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and Leon led comes splashing through the snow,

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Speaker 1: hits it. They were slides into it like a dope.

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Speaker 1: They recover it on the like on the one yard

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Speaker 1: they kick a less than an extra point for the win.

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Speaker 1: We're in the play we're in the training room the

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Speaker 1: next day, and of course some of the guys they've

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Speaker 1: got Leon's number, Like a handful of our players left

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Speaker 1: Leon a voice message, you adiot, Yeah exactly. Well, think

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Speaker 1: it turns out, we went to Miami and lumped them

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Speaker 1: And that was the same thing that happened in the

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Speaker 1: The ripple effects of our lives and it makes me

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Speaker 2: Cause and effect coming out of that Cowboys game was

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Speaker 2: He's gonna need surgery on his right knee. Bad looking injury.

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Speaker 2: They say it's more than just his ACL. They don't

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Speaker 2: the field. Owner Jerry Jones said on the radio on

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Speaker 1: Got rolled in and it's the it's the thing you see.

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Speaker 1: It looked bad. You couldn't really see it on the

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Speaker 1: They were on top of it, and then when they

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Speaker 1: I don't know Da Marius Demarvion de Marvion overshown at all,

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Speaker 1: but I feel for that guy today. I really do.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good player and through no fault of

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Speaker 2: They control the purse strings. That's why that's right. They

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Speaker 1: To me, that is where his manifesto is our cake already.

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Speaker 1: That's right. They also want to play in high profile games,

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Speaker 1: Well, if it's right, if all of this is in writing,

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Speaker 1: He might do that. Got take the job and then resign.

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Speaker 2: You think he only coaches a year, Well, I think

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Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't just that he was out of touch.

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Speaker 1: And I get it too. I mean college games. The

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Speaker 2: Oh you don't think those rules are getting bent to

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Speaker 2: Chapel Hill. If he's there, you know who's watching him.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's going to seriously.

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Speaker 2: Final note from around the NFL, the Patriots and wide

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Speaker 2: receiver kJ Osborne are mutually parting ways, so he will

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Speaker 2: go to waivers with the opportunity to latch on with

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Speaker 2: another team. I would anticipate he gets picked up in

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Speaker 2: short order on waivers.

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Speaker 1: Six foot, two hundred and fifty year good player.

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Speaker 2: WI used to play in Minnesota and just wasn't getting

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Speaker 2: enough playing time with the Patriots. They're obviously not going anywhere,

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Speaker 2: so they're playing a lot more of their younger players.

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Speaker 2: Remember they drafted two receivers, so the younger guys are

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Speaker 2: getting on the field. Osborne's not playing, so he's like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: can I can I get out of here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He started three of the first four games, and he's

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Speaker 1: only played in three games since none in the last

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Speaker 1: three games.

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Speaker 2: I think he's been in active.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, so that's he.

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Speaker 2: Said let me out and they said, sure thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, he's played. He's played a role in

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Speaker 1: every one of their three wins this year. When he

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Speaker 1: was on the field, they won, which is probably why

458
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Speaker 1: they benched him. Right, I don't know.

459
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Speaker 2: Who knows what are they doing, who knows how they're

460
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Speaker 2: thinking up there right now. I took an early look

461
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Speaker 2: at the win probability for week fifteen for your Buffalo

462
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Speaker 2: Bills at the Lions in Detroit this week. Lions win

463
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Speaker 2: probability going into the game sixty point four percent, Bills

464
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Speaker 2: win probability going into the game thirty nine point six percent.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's all analytics. You don't have to believe it.

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Speaker 2: Just thought i'd put it out there.

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Speaker 1: Four two. We're we're in a society and a certainly

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Speaker 1: a sports environment these days where it's the recency biased

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Speaker 1: is Oh my gosh, is the at the tropic game.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're that's right.

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Speaker 1: That's right, it doesn't matter, you know, It's like you're

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Speaker 1: nothing matters.

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Speaker 2: Bird droppings, all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: I found this statistic concerning the Lions defense, which isn't

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Speaker 2: nearly as good as their offense, but they do have

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Speaker 2: a ton of injuries on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Still a top five run defense and still first in

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Speaker 2: the league in third down defense. They're allowing a third

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Speaker 2: down conversion rate of just over thirty one percent. They're

481
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Speaker 2: also a top five red zone defense despite all the injuries.

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Speaker 2: This one I found interesting. Detroit has not allowed an

483
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Speaker 2: opponent to exceed a sixty percent completion rate in the

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Speaker 2: last seven games. It's the longest single season streak by

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Speaker 2: the Lions since the by Centennial nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that's well. I'll say this though, and they

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Speaker 1: are in the midst of a great run, no question

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 6: They have.

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Speaker 1: They're getting it done. I'll say this though. The Packers

491
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Speaker 1: hung thirty one on them, Like I said, the Bears

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Speaker 1: got twenty on them. But you know, they're playing the Colts,

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Speaker 1: They're playing the Jaguars. They haven't played this offense, right,

494
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Speaker 1: They have not played the Bills offense, which.

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Speaker 2: Is why I'm thinking that the Bills might have to

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Speaker 2: play a game very similar to last week. If they're

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Speaker 2: going to win, they might might. I think we might

498
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Speaker 2: be looking at another shootout here this week.

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Speaker 1: They might. The Bills didn't. The Bills ran fifty four

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Speaker 1: plays against against LA fifty four. They scored forty two points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the Rams defense is as good

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Speaker 2: as the Lions.

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Speaker 1: But no. But in aalst injuries, the Bills didn't take

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Speaker 1: a single, not a single negative play in that game

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Speaker 1: last week, not a single.

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Speaker 2: One, not one win for negative yardage, and their running

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Speaker 2: backs only ran for twenty yards. Still scored forty two points.

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Speaker 2: So think about that, which brings us to our topic

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Speaker 2: of conversation today. What could this week's Lions game mean

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Speaker 2: for the Bills? In your mind? You let us know

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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five to fifty won eighty eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the number to get

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Speaker 2: on board. We know it's a big one. It's going

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Speaker 2: to the entire country for twenty five kickoff on Sunday

515
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Speaker 2: from Ford Field. What could this week's Lions game mean

516
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Speaker 2: for the Bills? In your mind? You let us know,

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Speaker 2: got some open lines for you at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five to fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty. I guess it would mean something different

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Speaker 2: if they win as opposed to if they lose.

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Speaker 1: Depending on how it looks. But even if you do,

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Speaker 1: if you walk out of Detroit with a win, if

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Speaker 1: you're the Buffalo Bills, yeah they gonna be everybody's flavor,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna be right back to the

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Speaker 1: top of the power rankings. They're gonna say, Okay, well

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Speaker 1: then yeah they house. They're coming off a loss, but

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Speaker 1: it was the Rams loss, but they scored forty two points,

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Speaker 1: the Bills defense got back whatever whatever. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, they're right, they're they're peaking at the

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Speaker 1: right time. Right, you can hear it already. A right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh. Yes, it's more meaningful to beat a

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Speaker 1: team like Detroit, Philly, Minnesota, the Chiefs, all of those teams, Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore that you know, it's more meaningful to beat those teams.

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Speaker 1: And this would be no different than that. Although the

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions may be the crown jewel right now

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, you've already beaten the Chiefs, so we'll

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Speaker 1: I'm it's it's an out of conference, out of division

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Speaker 1: game Finger quotes super Bowl preview. Yeah maybe, but win loss.

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Speaker 1: It's like you just see, we'll see what the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: do this week, right, I mean that's the thing. We'll

541
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Speaker 1: see what the Chiefs do. If the Chiefs lose, well,

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Speaker 1: then everybody's gonna sit up in their chair.

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Speaker 2: Let's got to watch out for Pittsburgh. I mean, they're right,

544
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Speaker 2: they're right. They're even with you on overall record right now.

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Speaker 2: And the only reason you're ahead of them is because

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Speaker 2: the strength of victory.

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Speaker 1: Well, you beat the Detroit Lions, that'll help you. Yeah,

548
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Speaker 1: that puts you over the top.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers and the Bills are playing arguably the two

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Speaker 2: best teams in the NFC this week. Pittsburgh's in Philly,

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's in Detroit. The best team have a better record

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Speaker 2: after their games are played, right, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's that's that's a big that's a big, big.

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Speaker 2: Game and a big potential swing here. Yes, based on

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Speaker 2: the outcomes of those two games.

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Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh's got Philly this week, Baltimore next week, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City the week after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough road to ho.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, when we started this four

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Speaker 1: game stretch, of which, uh Detroit is the last of

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Speaker 1: the four games. You know, Bills fans were like, well,

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Speaker 1: we got to if we can just go you know,

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Speaker 1: two and two or three and one in these games,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna that's it, because remember we started for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I mean we started back when it was what was

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Speaker 1: the It was the Chiefs. Who'd we go after the Chiefs?

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Speaker 1: I can't remember, the Chiefs Niners? Yeah, it was the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: Niners rams Lions. We thought that stretch was gonna be

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Speaker 1: like impossible.

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Speaker 2: In three and one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go three and one, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: you got a chance at and this Lions game is

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Speaker 1: put you three and one or two and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We got to take a break here. When we

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Speaker 2: come back, though, we're taking your phone calls at eight

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Speaker 2: h three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty open lines for you there. What could

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Speaker 2: this week's Lions game mean for the Bills? You tell

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Speaker 2: Gonna get to the phones here as we are asking

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Speaker 2: you this afternoon, what would the game against the Lions

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Speaker 2: mean for the Bills? And you tell us why eighth

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Speaker 2: three oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty, then I'm gonna get on board.

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Speaker 2: Got open lines for you there, and we lead off

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Speaker 2: with Chuck in Hamburg.

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Speaker 7: What do you have for us, Chuck, Chris.

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Speaker 8: I really don't think the game against the Lions is

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Speaker 8: gonna make any bit of difference. The Bills are gonna

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Speaker 8: be fine for the rest of the year. I just

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00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 8: hope that Bavitch and the defense don't show up with

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Speaker 8: the knife at a gunfight again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can see that too. I'll say this though,

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Speaker 1: and I was talking to guys in the controlling Jeff

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Speaker 1: Koltenak said this, and he's right. This Lions game for

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Speaker 1: the Bills is their last chance to make a statement

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Speaker 1: against one of the upper echelon teams in the league

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Speaker 1: this season. They end up with New England, the Jets,

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Speaker 1: New England and if you beat those teams thirty to nothing,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna care if you And if you're out of

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Speaker 1: the one seed going into the nobody's gonna think you're

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Speaker 1: playing your best anyway, who nobody cares. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: get healthy for the playoffs. That kind of stuff's going

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Speaker 1: on for the last three games because the division's already won,

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Speaker 1: and their three division games against the bottom feeders of

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Speaker 1: the division. This Lions team is everything but that. This

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Speaker 1: is the game against one of the teams that is

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Speaker 1: elite in the league. It is your last chance to say,

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Speaker 1: this is how good we are. Watch out when we're playing.

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Speaker 1: This is how good we're gonna be. If you beat

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Speaker 1: a Lions team in Detroit, it's an enormous statement about

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Speaker 1: how the engine you've got under the hood coming off

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Speaker 1: a loss, all that stuff, the defense. You can say

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. This is your last chance to do it.

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Speaker 1: This year.

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Speaker 2: Bills are six and zero at home this season, four

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Speaker 2: and three on the road this year. Just something to

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Speaker 2: file away. Let's go back to the phones and to

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Speaker 2: Andrew in Texas. What's up Andrew?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks toy ma call familiarly. What the last

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Speaker 4: guy just said, it doesn't. It matters, but it doesn't

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Speaker 4: really matter that much. It's more of like a confidence

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Speaker 4: booster for our defense to show that the world basically

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Speaker 4: or show themselves that they can still compete with the best,

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Speaker 4: and this Detroit team is the best. Which sounds weird

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Speaker 4: to say that the Lions are the best team in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. I'm still not getting used to that. But

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Speaker 4: I actually have a question, and this has kind of

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Speaker 4: been bothering me since the Texans game and Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: We all heard what he said the other day at

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Speaker 4: the game about you know, situational football and about the

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Speaker 4: quarterback sneak and the timeouts and YadA, YadA, YadA. My

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Speaker 4: question is, is that you know Josh is the best,

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Speaker 4: one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I have

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Speaker 4: to assume that when Tom was playing, when Manning, and

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Speaker 4: probably even when Jim Kelly was playing, like they knew

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Speaker 4: the situations on the field, and if they didn't necessarily

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Speaker 4: agree with what was going on, that they can change it.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, throwing the ball out of the end

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Speaker 4: zone and the Texans game three times running the ball

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Speaker 4: with wasting a time out there at the end of

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Speaker 4: the last game. I feel like those guys would have

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Speaker 4: known not to do that and kind of hit it

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Speaker 4: away from that. And also if you saw sus the

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Speaker 4: replay has been going on NonStop. That quarterback sneak that

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Speaker 4: we missed. That wasn't a typical lineup that they usually do.

651
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Speaker 4: Usually they always have Josh under center and two guys

652
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: behind them. This time they had somebody in motion and

653
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: they had a receiver off to the end, So I

654
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 4: feel like they're trying to trick the rams and the

655
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 4: thinking they were going to do something else and then

656
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: they just kind of missed.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you're gonna go with your play

658
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: that you know you've you're most confident in, which is

659
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: how mc coach McDermott framed it, do it with the

660
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: personnel that are usually in that game. You had a

661
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: practice squad tight end in Zach Davidson trying to give

662
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: Josh an extra shove into the end zone and he

663
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: didn't get a great push on him. So when they

664
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Speaker 2: run at the second time, you got some of the

665
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: more usual suspects out there, Reggie Gilliam, mccollins and the like,

666
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: and they're the ones pushing him into the end zone.

667
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: The second time.

668
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Speaker 1: I'll say this too, if you're asking any one of

669
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: those guys they're going to check out of their best

670
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: play and take the give the ball to somebody else

671
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: to win the game, you won't get the same answer.

672
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: They might not be as quick to check out of

673
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: as you think, particularly a guy like Josh. You think

674
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Speaker 1: you think Josh or Mahomes or or any of these

675
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are, you know, the alpha dog you think

676
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna give they're gonna check out of a play

677
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: that gives them a chance to win it themselves.

678
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

679
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I kind of doubt it, but

680
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: I get your point, and you're right that that was

681
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: a risk. It was a roll of the dice right there,

682
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: and I would like to think that they were either

683
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: willing to live without the time. And I'll say this too.

684
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: If you make the score of the touchdown, we'll talk

685
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: to Dan Dan Orlofski later in the show. Do you

686
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: score that touchdown right there, you're still gonna on side

687
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: kick it? I would think so, because you the Rams

688
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: are not gonna not go for a first down when

689
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: they come out on offense after that onside kick, or

690
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: if you kick it deep either they're gonna come out

691
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: gunning because they know that's what they got to do.

692
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they can't give the ball.

693
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: They can't give the ball back to Josh Allen. They're

694
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Speaker 1: gonna go for it on fourth down. They're gonna try

695
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: and get it, get a first down. On first second,

696
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: third down, they're gonna be throwing it. So you know,

697
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: the the chances that that time out. It certainly took

698
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: a chance, took one opportunity away from the Bills in

699
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: that instance, But don't think it won that was gonna

700
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: win the game for him, gave him a chance to.

701
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: But that game was on thin ice anyway by that time,

702
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: because you know they were, like I.

703
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Said, clock was working against you already like that.

704
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: Like I said, the Rams knew they had to get

705
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: up by nine to beat this team.

706
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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Mark in

707
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Speaker 2: Jersey City.

708
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Speaker 9: What's up Mark, Well, good afternoon, gentlemen. Yeah, I mean

709
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 9: last week you got to steve your wide receiver cbe.

710
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 9: I don't know you've watched the game for forty plus years,

711
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 9: nikuha Cup. Course, nobody else in the league is throwing

712
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 9: that at you at once. The way those guys line

713
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 9: up their their route detail the way they how precise

714
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 9: they are, and then the physical skill set that just

715
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 9: you're not getting that anywhere else. And then Stafford still

716
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 9: has a lead arm talent. You're not gonna get that

717
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 9: this week. And they still only lost by two in

718
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 9: a game where they're two units played there. Would you

719
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 9: say the special teams and defense played their worst games

720
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 9: of the year, certainly?

721
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say, yes, team in the last

722
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: thirty forty years of Buffalo.

723
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Speaker 9: And then what one phase of their offense worked, the

724
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 9: pass game, that was it and they still only lost

725
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 9: by two. So I think what will happen in Detroit

726
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 9: if they win, it'll be everybody will be a victim

727
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 9: of the moment and they'll be proclaimed the best things

728
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 9: in slice bread. Again, what are they on eleven game

729
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 9: win streak. You're eventually going to have your ticket punched.

730
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 9: In sports, somebody's gonna get you. That's just the way

731
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 9: sports is. And the last couple of games, I mean,

732
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 9: there was the game in Houston where golf threw five

733
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 9: picks and they still, you know, Houston kind of finding

734
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 9: a way to fumble away games late and they're kind

735
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 9: of living by the skin of their teeth. Their point

736
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 9: differential is a little bit of an aberration. I think

737
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 9: they hung fifty on the Titans and close to fifty

738
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 9: on the Jaguars.

739
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: If I remember, they hung fifty on Jacksonville, they hung

740
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: fifty two on Tennessee, forty seven on Dallas, forty two

741
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: on Seattle.

742
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, so they know the Bills blew out those teams too.

743
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 9: So it's like, except Alice, it's Detroit's a very good team.

744
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 9: But eventually, I know they give up a ton of

745
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 9: pass interference penalties. Arry On Arnold's got the most in

746
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 9: the league, so they're going to be able to get them,

747
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 9: and if, especially if they get Coleman and Kincade back,

748
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 9: they'll I think they'll run the ball a little bit better.

749
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 9: Sometimes you need to get punched in the mouth. You

750
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 9: need a wake up call, and I think that was

751
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 9: a pretty good wake up call. Thanks for taking my call.

752
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: Guys, Yep, sure thing. Yeah. I mean you you can't

753
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: expect Christine play the whole season. To Steve's point, it's

754
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: too hard to do that over the cour seventeen games.

755
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: I just think the way in which the defense played

756
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: from start to finish was a little eye opening. We

757
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: had not seen a performance like that, arguably since the

758
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: Ravens game. And in the Ravens game, you did not

759
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: have Matt Mlono, to Rel Bernard or Tarren Johnson at

760
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: the second level of your defense. They all missed that game.

761
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: This game, you had all three of them and it

762
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: didn't matter. And I think is what is most concerning.

763
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Speaker 2: And I'll just speak for myself here, as you're gonna

764
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: see a whole lot of the same passing game and

765
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: scheme concepts that you saw on the Rams offense this

766
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: week in the Lions offense. And you know, Mark's right,

767
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: they don't have Nikua, they don't have Cup, although you

768
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 2: can probably put Saint Brown on a par with Cup

769
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: in the slot. They don't have anybody outside like Nikua.

770
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: I will agree with that. But they have a damn

771
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: good tight end in Laporta, and they have a one

772
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: two running back punch that the Rams do not have.

773
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: And they play a more physical brand of football than

774
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: the Rams do. So there are other challenges there that

775
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: might outnumber the challenges the Rams threw at you in totality,

776
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: and knowing that they did not have an answer for

777
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: the bootleg pass game, goff does that an awful lot,

778
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: and I think it's a pretty tough thing to completely neutralize.

779
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: So it's a concern the defensive line has to pull

780
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 2: a one to eighty this week and play significantly better

781
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: than they did last week if the Bills defense is

782
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: going to have a chance of slowing these guys down.

783
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. You know, if you look

784
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: at the other side of the corner that a game

785
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: and I said this too, coming off a loss like

786
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: the Bills did it, you're going to have an uptick

787
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: in intensity and practice this week in preparation, plus probably

788
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: the benefit of having seen that type of attack one

789
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: week and then go through live reps all game and

790
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: look like look bad during that game. You're gonna want

791
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: to look better. And if you know, the Bills will

792
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: probably say, listen, we've seen this, let's let's do better.

793
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Here's what you gotta do, and here's what the Detroit

794
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: lines do. So they're gonna have some live reps versus

795
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: that scheme under their belt with just you know, seven

796
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: days gone. So that's probably a plus in preparation for

797
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: a team that's running the same scheme, and you're gonna

798
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: get it. But you still got to stand up to it.

799
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: You still got to work the answers to the problems

800
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: they're presenting.

801
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: So allions sixty days to prepare for this one. Yeah,

802
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: So they might have a few extra things up their

803
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: sleeve as well.

804
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: As well as some wrinkles. They're gonna give you what

805
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I think is the exact same thing, and then they're

806
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna wrinkle off of it. We'll see it. But you know,

807
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: the Bills dug themselves a hole they couldn't get out

808
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: of last week, even though you know they had, you know,

809
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Josh putting on the cape and the whole thing. The

810
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: Bills are going to look at that game a little

811
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: bit and say, we did it to ourselves. But you're

812
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: right as well, Nakua and cup Or Elite, and so

813
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: is Matt Stafford. And they showed it and you had

814
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: you didn't answer. You couldn't get at Stafford and you

815
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: couldn't cover them up on the back end. That was

816
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: a problem.

817
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back. More

818
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Speaker 2: of your phone calls, Ryan and Toronto will lead us

819
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825
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Speaker 2: Good luck got to get back to the phones at

826
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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight

827
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Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two five fifty the number to

828
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Speaker 2: get on board. What could this week's Lions game mean

829
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: for the Bills and leading off a promised is Ryan

830
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: in Toronto?

831
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Speaker 9: What's up, Ryan Christie?

832
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: Honestly, I'm a little concerned about the game coming up

833
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: against the Lions. First of all, I called last week

834
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 5: and I'm talking about the stev he said, I told

835
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: you guys, the Bills cannot take the foot of the gas.

836
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: They had to come out strong. They had no urgency

837
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 5: coming in against the Rams this week. Secondly, let's get

838
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: the schedule for the Bills Lions game. Is pretty interested

839
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 5: because at the same time the Steelers and Filly up

840
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 5: playing at the same time as well four twenty five

841
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 5: that those are both both again the key matchups. Steelers

842
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 5: are chasing the Bills and Philish chasing the Lions. And secondly,

843
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: I don't know, man. They have to be strong and

844
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 5: they need to finish strong. They I just don't want to.

845
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: I'm set to be shipped away, think me doubt.

846
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Uh. Ryan is our resident of concern,

847
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: He's our designated concern officer.

848
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Legitimate concern.

849
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think to Steve's earlier comment, I agree

850
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: with that. I think they will play with more urgency

851
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: this week. And sometimes you need to get slapped around

852
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: a little bit to come out of a funk or

853
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: stop being complacent whatever it was that led to the

854
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: Bills playing defense the way they did last week. Special

855
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: teams can get thrown in there too, for good measure.

856
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: So you would hope that a loss like that, when

857
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: you give up the most points you have all year,

858
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: will refocus you in a good way and have you

859
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: ardently paying attention to anything and everything for which you

860
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: are responsible going into this game against an elite opponent,

861
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: because if you don't, you may end up giving up

862
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: more points than you did last week.

863
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: That's right, and the concern about the Detroit game is legitimate,

864
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: and you're right. The Pittsburgh Philly game is an incredibly

865
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Speaker 1: important matchup. As well for the Bills now, because they're

866
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: not only chasing the Chiefs, the Steelers are chasing the Bills,

867
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: and with the identical record. So as fun as it

868
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: is to think about the Bills getting the one seed,

869
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: do you think Pittsburgh's not thinking about it? You bet

870
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: they are. So you're in a race, and you're in

871
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: a really tight race, and this every game becomes more

872
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: monumental the deeper into the season you get. So, yes,

873
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: you are right. Your concerns last week about the Bills

874
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: taking their foot off the gas were well founded. They

875
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: came out with a lack of urgency, certainly most notably

876
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: the offensive passing game, came out and turned it on

877
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: when they finally got it in. They've scored the touchdowns

878
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: of their last four possessions. I mean, we saw it.

879
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Only punted twice.

880
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: They were cooking. They punted three times. The Bills did

881
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: the Detroit Ram twice.

882
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: The Rams punted twice.

883
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: That was the problem. And so yes, I would expect

884
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: a much different performance at least right out of the

885
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: gate this week in Detroit from Buffalo than you got

886
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: last week out of in the LA game. That if

887
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: they don't, if they come out flat again or come

888
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: out and have a poor performance. Yes, there is big

889
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: reason for concern there. This is not a team that

890
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: has While they do have technically the room to take

891
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas and just get to the

892
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: playoffs and then start playing. It says something about you

893
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: when you do that. Don't think any of these teams

894
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: from Detroit all the way down through Carolina in this league,

895
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: or the Giants, don't think anybody can take a week

896
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: off and then come back and just turn it on

897
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: whatever they want to. It's a way of life playing

898
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: good football. And the Bills, the Lions, you know, the Chiefs,

899
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: you go down the list, Minnesota, they're all playing at

900
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: a high level. If you take your foot off the gas,

901
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: sometimes when you put your foot back on it, it

902
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: doesn't start. So yeah, I am with you. They need

903
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: to do better than they did last week in the

904
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: beginning of this game in Detroit.

905
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: Yep, let's uh move along here and we go to

906
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: Aaron out in Attica. What do you got for us, Aaron?

907
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 10: Hey, just wanted to remind you about one more player

908
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 10: from from Detroit that wasn't mentioned, Jamis and Williams. He's

909
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 10: an awfully fast guy that is pretty Darren good on

910
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 10: the outside as well. And also I'm trying to just

911
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 10: understand the thought process between at the end of the

912
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 10: game and like Steve, you said that they would come

913
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 10: out gunning. So if we it would minute ago and

914
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 10: Josh doesn't get it, we say, say fifteen seconds comes

915
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 10: off the clock and we and then we get the

916
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 10: touchdown and then we get the ball back to them.

917
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 10: They're gonna run it twice, no matter what, right, no,

918
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 10: and then maybe no, no.

919
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: No, Aaron, They're gonna come out and play like its

920
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 1: first and ten first quarter. They're gonna get a first

921
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: down because if they do, they win. And they were

922
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: and there's nothing in the Bills defensive game plan that

923
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: gave them any pause. Matt's they're gonna put the gap

924
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: ball in Matt Stafford's hands and he's gonna throw one

925
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: first down and that's gonna be the game. I do

926
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: not believe they would come out and run it twice.

927
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 10: Okay, that's that's that's fair enough.

928
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: Well they did it, that's actually what they did there.

929
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but two timeouts then that changed everything.

930
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: Do you think if they have three timeouts they don't run.

931
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Well, no, they're gonna come out and they're gonna try

932
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: and get a first down.

933
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to clarify that's all go.

934
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 10: Ahead, because I just I just thought that, you know,

935
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 10: they come out, run twice and then to your points

936
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 10: stee then on third down, that would very well become

937
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 10: the point of Okay, we're gonna go win this game,

938
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 10: and then they throw the ball. Maybe may most likely

939
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 10: be based off of the way our defense played, they

940
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 10: win the game. But if they somehow, don't you know,

941
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 10: things can happen in completely pass. Whatever happens, then we

942
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 10: save a timeout, we get the ball back with thirty

943
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 10: seconds to go, and it's all over. I just don't

944
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 10: understand how you can take a time out. You take

945
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 10: a time out there, you lose the game. No matter what.

946
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 10: There isn't a scenario that you can possibly win the game,

947
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 10: at least with not taking time out there. There is

948
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 10: at least a scenario, you know what I mean. That's

949
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 10: that I guess that's what I'm trying to understand. So yeah,

950
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 10: but if Steve, if you, if your position is that

951
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 10: they're going to come out and throw it right from

952
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 10: first to then, then then that's you're well, here's the.

953
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: Thing, too. The scenario is also that you come out

954
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: and you on the first and goal on the one,

955
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: and you throw it three times, you're getting what happens

956
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: if you get up. I mean there's like fifty scenarios

957
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: where it goes the wrong way, you get a holding penalty.

958
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Then then you're second and ten on the second and

959
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: ten on or second and goal on the eleven. Uh

960
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: and yeah, so then everything changes or first and goal

961
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: on the eleven because you get the down back. So yes,

962
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: nobody knows what would have happened if this and that

963
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: and you make different decisions. But I'll say this that

964
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: giving it to Josh on that quarterback sneak, I was

965
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: okay with it. I thought he's going to get in.

966
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: I think you're.

967
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: Right, you can make it.

968
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: You can make a case for you should You shouldn't

969
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: spread them out. You should have just piled it in

970
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: and gone with different personnel combinations that. But yeah, and

971
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, he's gonna make it. I was with them.

972
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he'll make this, let's go, you know.

973
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: But it didn't. They didn't, and they lost the game.

974
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: The game was lost when they had a block punt

975
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. If you ask me, and it was

976
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: also lost when they went you got a holding penalty,

977
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: you took the penalty. Now it's third and fourteen sixteen

978
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and now it's fourth and five,

979
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: and that'll tell you everything you need to know. The

980
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: Rams are going forward on fourth and five instead of

981
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: hitting a fifty four to fifty five yard er to

982
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: go up by six, That'll tell you everything you need

983
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: to know about where the Rams were. They were going

984
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: for it, and you know that's that tells you where

985
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: the game was lost. Yeah, the quarterbacks, the quarterback sneak

986
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: and having having to take that time out when they

987
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: did was your last best chance, lost, your last best chance.

988
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: But that game was not going anywhere. But la after

989
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: they scored the touchdown, getting fourth and five out of

990
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: the last of the series before that, they go up

991
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: by nine with two whatever was lefter? What was it?

992
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: It was one fifty lefter? It was it inside the

993
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: two minute warning on the fourth down. Yeah, so that's

994
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: where the game was lost.

995
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: Great time for us here when we come back. Our

996
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: number two begins with our good friend Dan or Alowski,

997
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: ESPN NFL analyst. We'll ask him for his thoughts post

998
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: mortem on Bill's Rams and look ahead to Bill's lions.

999
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: We do that with Dan next here on One Bill's Line,

1000
00:52:27,760 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1001
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: This this One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

1002
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

1003
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: Tasker here on a Tuesday. Please be joined now by

1004
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky, whose appearances on One Bills

1005
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,640
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1006
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1007
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: barn burner in La as we well know Josh of

1008
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: the six touchdown performance, first since Otto Graham in nineteen

1009
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: fifty four. Hello, the troubling thing is this, the Bills

1010
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 2: are four and five when he has four hundred yards

1011
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: or more of total offense. It's so frustrating to see

1012
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: him perform at a ridculous level and they're under five hundred.

1013
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1014
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now you know how the Bengals feel. You know,

1015
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: it was a remarkable, remarkable game. It was an unbelievable

1016
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: offensive performance. I said that on the show yesterday. I

1017
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: said that we could do the whole show on just

1018
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: that game and just the offensive performance, just a quarterback

1019
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: performance by both players that thought Josh was absolutely sensational.

1020
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: You know, I would be a little bit more concerned

1021
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: if I was a Bills fan about the defense if

1022
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: we played in the NFC and we were going to

1023
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: see the Kyle Shanahan tree, which is what you know,

1024
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: Sean McVay is a part of You're not gonna see

1025
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 3: that that much.

1026
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 11: You'll see it this weekend against Detroit.

1027
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: You will get very similar stuff, at least when it

1028
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: comes to the Bills defense.

1029
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 11: But Josh was. He was sensational. It's rare. You guys

1030
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 11: have been around the NFL a long time.

1031
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: To have the losing quarterback in a game in the

1032
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: conversation around him, say, did he lock up the MVP

1033
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: with that performance?

1034
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 11: It was that good?

1035
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was in our heart of hearts here

1036
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. We're bitter about how it turned out. We

1037
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: you know, they they lost by two points, but what

1038
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: a game it was. I mean, those are the I mean,

1039
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: the NFL would take fifty of those every year, right,

1040
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: forty two, forty four. Josh comes out and does all this.

1041
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: But let's talk about like, right at the end of

1042
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: the game. We got a lot of calls yesterday, and

1043
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: the big topic of conversation always goes to the very

1044
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: last part of the game, where either an official's non

1045
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: call or a bad call, and in this case, the

1046
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Bills trying that quarterback sneak right at the end, and

1047
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: then because it wasn't good they had to take the

1048
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: time out or they didn't feel like they had enough

1049
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: time to get up snap it quick. What are your

1050
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: thoughts on the how the end of the game played out.

1051
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they've taught taken a lot of heat

1052
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: over it. I did not mind the play call. A

1053
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: couple of reasons.

1054
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 11: Why.

1055
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: Number one, that's by far their best call in that situation.

1056
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: As a play caller, Joe Brady, Sean McDermott, what is

1057
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 3: our best one yard play? I think, Josh is eighteen

1058
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: of twenty this year or seventeen of twenty this year

1059
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: running the football from a one yard or distance needed

1060
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: or less.

1061
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 11: So by far, that's our best play call it.

1062
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: I think The second thing is everyone who's saying like,

1063
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: drop back and throw the football.

1064
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 11: Surely good play.

1065
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: No doubt, but it also enhances the risk of a

1066
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: bad play, and in that moment, a bad play is

1067
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: catastrophic just as much as using the timeout, a penalty,

1068
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: a sack. They might not be likely, but it still

1069
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 3: enhances the risk of it. So you're trying to mitigate

1070
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 3: the risk of a negative in that moment while also

1071
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: trying to get that positive play. I think the only thing,

1072
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: and I would imagine that there's a conversation and a

1073
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: learning from moment that you would change is instead of

1074
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: calling the timeout if you don't get it, just get

1075
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: to line scrimage and run it right again. And that

1076
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: might cost you eight seconds or something, but it preserves

1077
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: the time out. And that's obviously the big conversation. So

1078
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: I didn't hate it. Again. I think the big thing

1079
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: is the growth from that. I'd also say this, and

1080
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: I said this yesterday on TV. They were gonna have

1081
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: to onside kick anyway. In my opinion, even if Josh

1082
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: scores on that first attempt and they keep their three timeouts,

1083
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 3: I don't believe that kicking the ball deep would have

1084
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: been the smart thing. The Rams weren't gonna kneel on it.

1085
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: The Rams weren't gonna play conservative offense. The Rams would

1086
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: have been aggressive in that moment. They knew what they

1087
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: were dealing with as well. So either way, I truly

1088
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: believe it was gonna come down to an onside kick.

1089
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: No right. Defensively, Bill's had some struggles. It's the first

1090
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: game they did not get a takeaway, and some people

1091
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: are wondering, you know, have the takeaways masked some of

1092
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: the deficiencies of the defense. I don't know that I

1093
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: subscribed to that necessarily myself, but they had zero answers

1094
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: for the bootleg passing game of Matthew Stafford in the Rams.

1095
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: You know, Jared Goff and Ben Johnson are gonna be

1096
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: utilizing that this week. What is the answer to keeping

1097
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: him in the pocket and preventing those rollouts.

1098
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: It's a huge challenge for a defense, you know. I

1099
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: think one of the things that teams try to do

1100
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: is blitz, where you believe the quarterback is going to

1101
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: be rolling into, dependent upon formation and what not. So

1102
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: as he makes that fake and tries to roll out,

1103
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: there's someone there that is committed to keeping him in

1104
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: the pocket or getting the ball out of his hands,

1105
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: because that's when this offense really gets dangerous, you know, Chris,

1106
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: it's it's it's often math when you're playing against the

1107
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: Shanahan Tree.

1108
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 11: Right.

1109
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: You know, if you sit there and you cut your

1110
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: defense in half more often than not, and you say

1111
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 3: five on one side, six on the other.

1112
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 11: A couple things. One the Rams, the Lions will do

1113
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 11: what the Rams did.

1114
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: They are going to present a formation and then within

1115
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 3: one second of you getting set with that five and six,

1116
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: they are going to change their numbers formation wise, and

1117
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: so then you are going to have to change your

1118
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: numbers formation wise. And then there's going to be another

1119
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: moment two or three seconds later where they're going to

1120
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: change it again. Okay, And so everyone needs to understand

1121
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: that when you're doing that to a defense, everybody's rules

1122
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: are changing, everybody's gap in the run game is changing

1123
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: everybody's eyes, and where they need to be in responsibility

1124
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: is constantly changing. One of the fundamental reasons why the

1125
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: Rams did it with success and why the Lions will

1126
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: do it is as an offense, I don't need all

1127
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: of you to be wrong on the defense.

1128
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 11: I need one, and if I have one, it's advantage me.

1129
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: And so that's going to be the stress and the

1130
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: thing is and when smart play callers two Chris like,

1131
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: if you go back the first one of the first

1132
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: snaps of that game is the first quarter. It's fourteen minutes,

1133
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 3: twenty four seconds left.

1134
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 11: On the clock.

1135
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: They shift in motion against Buffalo's defense. It's the most

1136
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: disc there was a lack of communication going on, four

1137
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: or five guys running all over the place. Ball gets

1138
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: snapped in that moment. As an offensive mindset for me,

1139
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: I got you. It's coming all game and that's what happened.

1140
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: You know that, that's really what happened, the story of

1141
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: the game.

1142
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 8: And so.

1143
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 11: Is it fixable one hundred percent?

1144
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be perfect and easily solved? No, because

1145
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: that's that's football, and that's when you play against elite

1146
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: play callers.

1147
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: So you get into this game and the Bills, you

1148
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: watch the Chiefs play and doink it for the division championship.

1149
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: Bills are still chasing those guys.

1150
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: Now.

1151
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: It's a two game difference, though, and they're running out

1152
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: of games. And I think, what's your what do you

1153
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: think your philosophy is? I mean, certainly you're gonna go

1154
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: into this Detroit game. This a little bit even though

1155
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: both these teams are in the playoffs, they're gonna get there.

1156
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: This a little bit of a statement game, right, Yeah?

1157
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 11: I think they go out.

1158
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 3: Obviously, this is a game that is just as important

1159
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: as any other game.

1160
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: One.

1161
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: You're coming off of a loss. You want the defense

1162
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: to play significantly better. And if you're a Buffalo, I

1163
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: think you're using it as a game of intel as well.

1164
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 11: You know, it's you.

1165
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: You're you're planning and hoping that you see this team

1166
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: again in another eight weeks or so, and so I

1167
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: think that you're very much so going about your business

1168
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: and trying to go in and you know, yeah, send

1169
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: a clear message again, but you know, very for your building, Like, hey,

1170
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: last week, we played a really good team. The quarterback

1171
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 3: was really hot. We're gonna have to play teams like

1172
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: that in the playoffs to get where we want to go.

1173
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to play elite offenses. But it's about

1174
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: you know, us defensively getting better and improving. So while

1175
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: the one seed might feel more out of reach than

1176
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: it did, you go win this game in Kansas City.

1177
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about it. I mean, they could

1178
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 3: very much so lose two games over the next four weeks. Unlikely, sure,

1179
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: but they played Pittsburgh on Christmas Day, so there's still

1180
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 3: a lot to be played.

1181
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 11: You know for in the AFC.

1182
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: Let's just briefly look at the line defense. Obviously, they've

1183
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: been beset with injuries. They get another one last week

1184
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: with Alee McNeil going in concussion protocol. We don't know

1185
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: what his status is going to become Sunday. Maybe he clears.

1186
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: But no DJ Reader last week, No on Wuzo Rique,

1187
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: no Josh Pascal. On their defensive front, who is the

1188
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: most critical to return to the lineup if they want

1189
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: to be the kind of defense they've been, or at

1190
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: least effective enough where they feel they can neutralize this

1191
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: Bill's offense.

1192
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say number one McNeil, Number

1193
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: two Reader. I think those are the two guys that

1194
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 3: are likely, at least in the conversation, to have the

1195
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: chance to come back. I do not believe angelone either

1196
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: one of their inside linebackers is the it has the

1197
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: chance to come back. This is a defense that's been

1198
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 3: decimated by injuries, but they're very aggressive, They're unapologetic. They

1199
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: are going to challenge Buffalo's offense. This will be a

1200
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 3: really cool barometer for this Buffalo offense because Detroit and

1201
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 3: Aaron Glender defensive coordinator. It's a little bit philosophically like

1202
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: Kansas City.

1203
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 11: They are going to commit numbers and.

1204
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: Edges to stop Buffalo's defense offensive run game. They're gonna

1205
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 3: put people across the line of scrimmage, they're gonna be

1206
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: unapologetic about it, and they're gonna try to attack on

1207
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 3: angles to stop the run game. They're gonna line up

1208
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: and play press man coverage more often than not and

1209
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: saying we don't think your guys.

1210
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 11: Are better than our guys.

1211
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 3: And Carlton Davis coming back really important for them because

1212
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 3: he's a very physical corner. They got two safeties that

1213
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: are arguably the best safety combo in the NFL, you know,

1214
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: and Kirby Joseph and Brian Branch. Josh is gonna have

1215
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: to be super conscious of where those guys are at

1216
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 3: all times because they're both ridiculous ballhawks. This just because

1217
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 3: they have some injuries, this is still a very, very

1218
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: physical and daunting.

1219
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 11: Defensive unit and they're gonna challenge Buffalo.

1220
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: One of the things we talked about, especially you go

1221
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: back over the games where Buffalo has struggled offensively and

1222
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: a little bit defensively as well, like in the Baltimore

1223
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: game where they just did not they didn't adjust like

1224
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: you said, like the Giants are gonna come in, I

1225
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: don't care if you think you're gonna run on We'll

1226
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: throw nine defensive linemen on the field kind of thing.

1227
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: They exaggerate a response. How common is that in the league,

1228
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: because I was saying that you get frustrated by watching

1229
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: the Bills watch Baltimore just hand it off to Derrick

1230
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: Henry and they got nobody there. They're just getting pushed around.

1231
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: How big an adjustment do most teams have to make

1232
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: to stop a running game of that caliber? And why

1233
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: is it that the Detroit Lions are so successful when

1234
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: they do that exact thing?

1235
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta have it's, however, you want what kind

1236
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: of risk do you want to roll a roll the

1237
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: dice on when you're playing it the way that Buffalo

1238
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: does and a lot of teams in the NFL do.

1239
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: It's we're we're willing to give you yards, but we

1240
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: want to play our best on obviously red zone defense,

1241
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: and we believe that you are going to beat yourself

1242
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: at some point that you won't do the small things

1243
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: like we do. And so a penalty, a turnover, you know,

1244
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: a miss on third down in the red zone field goal.

1245
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: So that's less risky than what the Lions do. The

1246
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 3: Lions are going to give you opportunities to throw the

1247
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: ball downfield.

1248
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 11: They are going to make you believe that.

1249
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: You have to play one dimensional and they believe that

1250
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: they're either going to make you uncomfortable as a passer

1251
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: with the bodies that they're put near you and force

1252
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: you to make throws in really small spaces. They trust

1253
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: their guys to play physical, they trust their guys to

1254
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 3: play with the proper leverage. I think that's one of

1255
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: the things that Luke gets lost sight of defensively. Steve

1256
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 3: and you know this is there's different versions of man coverage.

1257
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: It's it's not like they're just saying, hey, Carlton Davis,

1258
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: you've got to cover that guy head to head, nose

1259
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: to nose all over the field. They'll say, yes, you

1260
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 3: got him, but you play on his outside half because

1261
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 3: there will be a body somewhere in the middle and

1262
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: that'll be your help. And so that'll be the challenge

1263
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: is again for Buffalo to find that as well.

1264
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 11: But it's just what kind of risk do you want

1265
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 11: to take.

1266
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: There's gonna be opportunity for offenses like Buffalo against Detroit.

1267
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 11: But you got to hit him when they're there because

1268
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 11: it's not going to be all the time.

1269
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just with the Lions run game, we obviously know

1270
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: it's a two headed monster and it's super physical. They

1271
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: love driving people off the line of scrimmage. But what

1272
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: is what would you say are the biggest calling cards

1273
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: for what makes it so effective?

1274
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, the number one.

1275
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: They're always going to try to gain the numbers advantage.

1276
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: It is going to be like that vintage San Francisco forty.

1277
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 11: Nine ers run game.

1278
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: It's going to be a lot like what they saw

1279
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: last week. You know, there's gonna be set of formation

1280
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 3: and we're gonna get you know, Taron Johnson over there.

1281
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna try to get an offensive lineman on Taron Johnson.

1282
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: That's what Detroit's philosophy is gonna be or a tight end.

1283
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 11: Okay, So that's just their reality.

1284
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: So they're gonna try to gain that either numbers or

1285
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 3: size advantage in that the picture will constantly change for

1286
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 3: this defense and what gap responsibility is, Who's the front

1287
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 3: side is really good in their run game, the backside

1288
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: is championship If the backside of Buffalo's defense isn't elite.

1289
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 3: They will get the ball run all over them. That's

1290
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: just the backside is so good in Detroit when it

1291
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 3: comes to and I would.

1292
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 11: Say philosophy, it's pretty similar.

1293
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: I've praised and as you guys have the perimeter blocking

1294
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: in Buffalo with Mac and Khalil.

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Speaker 11: It's the same thing in Detroit. I'm monra and Tim Patrick.

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Speaker 3: They're elite at it, and so everybody's a part of it.

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Speaker 3: I think the second thing, Chris is I, in my belief,

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Speaker 3: this is the best They don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't call it play action offense. It is a

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Speaker 11: run action.

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Speaker 3: This this play pass by Jared Goff.

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Speaker 11: It looks like run.

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Speaker 3: The hats of the offensive line stay low, the backs

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Speaker 3: are flat, and so the secondary, those backers, the keys

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Speaker 3: that they have on that stuff is just as much

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Speaker 3: of a challenge as actually physically stopping the run.

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Speaker 1: A ton of really good games coming up this week's

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Speaker 1: we look at, you know, raise up and maybe look

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Speaker 1: at somebody other than the Buffalo Bills. But you've got

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Speaker 1: some really important game as you'd expect at this time

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Speaker 1: of year. What are some of the matchups this week?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got the Steelers at Philly, I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's looking forward to seeing those two teams go at it.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the other matchups that you really like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously this Bill's Bill's Lions game. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people want to see these two teams square off

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Speaker 1: because it could be a preview of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the other matchups you like?

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Speaker 11: I don't even know what they are?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Bears, Bears, Vikings, that's Steelers. I guess it's really

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Speaker 1: this Bill's Lions, Steelers, Eagles in the afternoon, I'm Bengals

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Speaker 1: Titans is nothing.

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Speaker 11: But what the Chiefs have?

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Who the Chiefs have?

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs? The Chiefs have got the Browns in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Chiefs are gonna be in a tight

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Speaker 3: ball game, you know, that's the obvious thing. Can they

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Speaker 3: continue to get away with it and kind of find

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Speaker 3: a way to win?

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Speaker 11: I'm looking at it now.

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Speaker 3: Ravens, Giants, if you win, Jets, Jags, nothing, Cowboys, Panthers, Commanders, Saints, Bengals,

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Speaker 3: Titan aren't impactful again? The Chiefs, Browns, I guess Houston, Miami.

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Speaker 3: You know Miami's playing well. Two US played phenomenally since

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Speaker 3: he's come back. They're still mathematically alive. Houston has had

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Speaker 3: moments when they've looked really good. They haven't looked good.

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Speaker 3: You think they're gonna win that division. That would mean

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Speaker 3: that they're going to host a playoff game. But I

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Speaker 3: think that's an interesting game because you know, if Houston wins,

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Speaker 3: it completely seals the door on Miami Colts.

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Speaker 11: Broncos. Is huge.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because the Colts are chasing the Broncos. The Colts,

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Speaker 3: the Broncos are at the seventh spot right now, Colts

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Speaker 3: are in the eighth spot. You know, I think Denver

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Speaker 3: is a dangerous playoff team. I really do. I think

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Speaker 3: that just because how great that defense is and they

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01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: can play man coverage with with certain and Riley Moss

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Speaker 3: bo Nis is in the conversation for Offensive Rookie of

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Speaker 3: the Year. They're not going to host a game, obviously,

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Speaker 3: but they're gonna be one of those teams that goes

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Speaker 3: somewhere and that's a dangerous football team.

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Speaker 1: How how much of an adjustment? So say, for instance,

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01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 1: the Bills are two games behind the Chiefs and it

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01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: gets closer and closer, win and how do you handle

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: the fact that you're probably not going to get the

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Speaker 1: one seed, or maybe you do have a chance at

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: the one seed. How do you handle the end of

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Speaker 1: the season when really the tournament's about to start. You

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01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: want to make sure you head it healthy and sharp.

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01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: How much do you either push on the gas to

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: get the one seed or lay it off if you've

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01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: got no chance at the one seed and just say, listen,

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01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: let's just get to the tournament healthy and sharp. What's

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01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: your philosophy on end of season for teams who may

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Speaker 1: or may not have a shot at a better seed

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Speaker 1: and plus to get in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say as long as mathematically the one

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Speaker 3: seed is an option, you're playing for the one seed

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: if you're Buffalo, and that is not even a secondary thought.

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Speaker 3: Right Once the one seed becomes mathematically no longer available,

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Speaker 3: that's when I think you become very conscious of, Okay,

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: who can we preserve, how can we help them get

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01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 3: a little bit healthier physically and mentally refresh to allow

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Speaker 3: us to go play our absolute best football on that

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Speaker 3: one month term.

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Speaker 1: Essentially, do you care at all whether you're the two, three,

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: or four seed because you really don't know who the

1378
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: wild cards are going to be at that you know

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01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, how much do you care about that?

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Speaker 3: I think you care about so much more about who

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: you are and the health of your team rather than

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: who you're going to go play be playing against.

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 11: You know that they have to come through Buffalo.

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: I think once you start slotting yourself and at the

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 3: end of the day, one seed and then it's not

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 3: it's how do we make sure that our one through

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: fifty three are playing their best? Because the reality is this,

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: when this team's healthy and that conference playing at home,

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,919
Speaker 3: they're the team.

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Speaker 11: To go through, in my opinion. On the road, different conversation.

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Speaker 3: I get all that, but you're more than likely looking

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Speaker 3: at having to go on the road, if at all,

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Speaker 3: to Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Simpson cast last night on Monday Night Football. What'd

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Speaker 2: you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool to be a part of.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's historic. You know, anytime you're a part

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Speaker 3: of something historic. Was a lot of fun. I got kids.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in nineties kids, so I was the

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01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 3: punk teenager running around, eat my shorts or stuff like that.

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Speaker 11: So, uh, it was fun to be a part of.

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 11: Definitely different.

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01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: You know, made for a super long day for work,

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's something that you know, will

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01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: kind of last for a long time whatnot.

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01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 11: So I was, uh, I was grateful to kind of

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Speaker 11: be a part of that. It was cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks coming, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Thanks guys, I'll see you all right.

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Speaker 2: That's dan Orlowski joining us as he does every week.

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: And uh. Interesting his thoughts on Drake may I've been

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: talking about Drake may Man. I'm telling you, you know,

1413
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 2: still you don't have to worry about him this year.

1414
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: But if he drafts some offensive linemen for that Patriots team,

1415
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: If Elliott Wolf the GM drafts some capable offensive lineman

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01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: that could step in and play, division is going to

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: be better next year. Division will be better because you

1418
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: will have three good teams, not just two just because

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: I'm counting the Bills and Miami, right, I have no

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: faith in.

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01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: The Jets, JITs. I'll believe it when I see it. Certainly,

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: Drake may a good quarterback, elevates every he.

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: Can run around like Josh and by time and he's

1424
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: got it.

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're still I'm not saying he's Josh Allen,

1426
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: but he has some similar he has a similar approach

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: to the game as a young player. There'll still be

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01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: rifft of talent.

1429
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: We'll see what they are. They've got a lot, they've

1430
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: got a lot of work to do up there, but

1431
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: they have the most important piece. In my opinion, I

1432
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: think they have their guys.

1433
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: It's the hardest guy to find, no question, so they

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: have that.

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: Not to dump on New York City football anymore, but

1437
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 2: I saw this headline. Giants and Jets on pace to

1438
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: have the worst collective one loss record for the two

1439
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: New York football teams since nineteen sixty. Yes, both teams

1440
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: have been bad before at the same time, but they're

1441
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: on pace to be as as add as they've been

1442
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: collectively as a tandem since nineteen sixty.

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: June eleven, three and ten, Let's tell New York fans

1444
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: five and twenty one.

1445
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 2: Tell New York fans to turn the page and go

1446
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: root for the Knicks. Move on to the next sport,

1447
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: because that's where it is. We have to take a

1448
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: break here. When we get back. More of your phone calls,

1449
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: so if you're holding an eighth three oh five fifty,

1450
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: we will get to you when we return here. On

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live Stay with Us

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Speaker 2: on Friday, December twentieth. Patty and Thurman Thomas invite you

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Speaker 2: and answering and support of the Thurman Thomas Family Foundation.

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Speaker 2: Check out the obl X page for more information. You

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01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: can go to our one Bills Live page on X

1459
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Speaker 2: or Twitter and get some more info on that if

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: you are interested in attending fun stuff. Got to get

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Speaker 2: back to the phones at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 2: fifty where we're asking you today what could this week's

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: Lions game mean for the Bills. Steve thinks it's the

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01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,959
Speaker 2: last opportunity to make a statement on the regular season schedule,

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01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: which I would tend to agree with. You have your opinions,

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: We want to know what those are, and we go

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Speaker 2: to Butch on the east Side next, what's up Butch

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Speaker 2: my chains?

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you the Queen of WGR msgmis Magic glav Rew,

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Speaker 6: I love you as well to the Superstar staffs A

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Speaker 6: move love MSG love wjeradon fans of definitely. Look I'm

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Speaker 6: get right at this point. Number one is back in January, gentlemen,

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 6: we were speaking about transitioning Selby Durmott, and I'm gonna

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01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 6: say this to genial manager Brandon Being, who should be

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 6: general manager a year even though Sean might not get

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01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 6: coaching year. Brandon Being should be general manager anyway. The

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 6: reason why I brought that up here, we were talking

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 6: about transitioning, of coming from the old to the new.

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01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 6: Sean had to do that because of the way he

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 6: was in the prior. He had to play younger players.

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01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 6: He got me teaching. He became nine and two. Now,

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01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 6: each and every one of us, now, I hope your

1484
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 6: fathers are still living or somebody elderly in your family.

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 6: We can be stubborn. Sometimes we give you vert back

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 6: to old ways. Now in this case, you were nine

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01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 6: and two. With what we were doing. They said, it

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01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 6: does not broke, do not fix it. We tried to

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 6: fix something that wasn't broke. It was nice to see

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 6: Matt Malone come through the tunnel in the snow game

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01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 6: getting saluted. He deserved that accolades in his hometown. When

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01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 6: we played against the forty nine ers, but we was

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01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 6: three shoe string tackles away from Christian mccaffee having over

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01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 6: two hundred yards Russian during that the blueprint on that

1495
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 6: on twenty two in game film, the Rams saw that

1496
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 6: they made a game plan and we already know the results.

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna put that to the side. Moving forward with

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 6: this is you cannot use you cannot lose continuity of

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 6: your football team, and that you can choose your locker room.

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Speaker 6: When you got young players like Dorian Williams, who leads

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01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 6: the team in tackles, was maybe probably having a pro

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 6: bo year. At the same time, he respects Matt mclonald

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 6: when he sits down, he allows him to participate. But

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01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 6: you're sitting down for two games, then let him play.

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 6: That's disrespectfulness. You can't do that. Moving forward against Detroit,

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 6: you're gonna have Gibs. You have Montgomery cover right down

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 6: your pipe. You can't do that. Put Dorian Reens back

1508
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 6: where he belonged. Let know Matt mclonalds, just like Danie

1509
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 6: Lowski's TV for use these last five games as preseason.

1510
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 6: Put him in a little bit at a time, and

1511
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 6: I'm done with that real quick. On the off of

1512
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 6: the side of your ball, Steve Chris, We've been talking

1513
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 6: for months about the screen game we saw against the Rams.

1514
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 6: They started using the on the Ty Johnson's forty one touchdown, Brownie.

1515
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 6: You call that game perfectly. I appreciate it because I

1516
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 6: listened to the game if The only thing I realized, though,

1517
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 6: is that Brady does not know how to win the

1518
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 6: screen game and orchestrate it. To orchestrate it to the

1519
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 6: poor we could use a downfield, he doesn't know how

1520
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 6: to set it up. But going forward against Detroit, he's

1521
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 6: gonna have to use his backs in that screen game

1522
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 6: to set it up. I love you guys, thanks so

1523
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 6: much for taking my call, and you guys take care

1524
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 6: of yourself all right.

1525
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 2: Thanks. But I mean, I don't I don't know that

1526
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 2: it's Disrespectfuill. You had a guy that's an All Pro.

1527
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna start when he's healthy. Dorian Williams has had

1528
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: a really nice season in Milano's absence. Milano's the All Pro.

1529
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna give him time to get his feet under him,

1530
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: and I think he'll be making plays more plays in

1531
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: short order.

1532
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, though, I mean, they were playing nice defense with

1533
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: Dorian Williams. In there and then to make the change.

1534
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: It's something. I'll say this though, those guys, uh, don't

1535
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: think that the change is as drastic as you're making it. Certainly,

1536
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: Dorian Williams didn't get a chance to play middle linebacker

1537
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: or inside linebacker like he has in games past. But

1538
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: it's not like some guy from another team has come

1539
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: in and taking his job. So I don't think it's

1540
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: gonna be the internal dynamic that you're thinking it is,

1541
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: where it's the guy thinks it's disrespectfully, I don't think that,

1542
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: And certainly he'd love to play. Dorian Williams is an

1543
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: NFL player and he wants to play. I don't think

1544
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: it's quite the upheaval that it would be under a

1545
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: different circumstance. This is not unusual what's going on with Milano. So,

1546
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: and make no mistake, you're right. If they don't see

1547
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: Milano getting better, you can bet Dorian Williams will start

1548
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: to be rotated back in if not in there all

1549
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: the time, if it doesn't start going the way they

1550
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: want it to go, now, maybe it is. I mean,

1551
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: certainly we're not seeing Milano get the tip passes and

1552
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and the defense had a it's worst

1553
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: outing in a long, long time this last weekend. But

1554
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: the minute they think they can make it better by

1555
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 1: making a lineup change, you can bet they're gonna make it.

1556
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: There's no there's not gonna be any hesitation. So if

1557
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: they I don't think, I guess In short, I don't

1558
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: think the coaching staff shares your opinion about what it is.

1559
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: Maybe they do, and maybe we'll see evidence of that,

1560
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: but until they do.

1561
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: He hasn't played in fourteen months. They're gonna give him

1562
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: some on ram time, right, Adam line.

1563
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: As soon as they think you're right, if they agree

1564
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: with you, whether they've listened to the show or not,

1565
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: as soon as they think the way you do, that

1566
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: change will be made quickly. Don't think they're going to

1567
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 1: do it. They're doing this just because they want to.

1568
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: They feel like they somehow want to, you know, make

1569
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: friends with Matt Mulano. That ain't that. That's not how

1570
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: it's going. So take heart in that as they believe

1571
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: like you do, it will happen before you know it.

1572
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Kevin in Hamburg, what's up, Kevin?

1573
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 12: Hey, I tell you do it? Thanks for taking my call. Sure,

1574
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 12: I totally agree with Steve about the statement game is

1575
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:57,440
Speaker 12: the last statement game two in favor of or against

1576
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 12: win or lose. If we win, we'll be going we didn't.

1577
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 12: We didn't beat a team. We win the game that

1578
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 12: a lot of people think are gonna make it to

1579
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 12: the super Bowl and possibly win the thing. Compared to

1580
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 12: if we would have beaten the Rams. They're a team

1581
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 12: that was barely hanging on the sea above water from

1582
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 12: drowning if we lose in Detroit, compared to losing to

1583
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 12: a team that was tread and water. We lose to

1584
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 12: a team, especially if we meet Jared Goff look as

1585
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 12: good as Matt Stanford willout make him look good, Let

1586
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 12: him look good. Then we get like they just got

1587
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 12: maybe beat or cloppered by a team that might is

1588
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 12: in the super Bowl bubble, and it will look a

1589
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 12: lot more scarier. And if we didn't lose, no one's

1590
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 12: gonna care about the so called You've heard the term

1591
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 12: tomato cans that are coming up, and I don't know

1592
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 12: why they call them tomato cans. But in the next

1593
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 12: three weeks of the Patriots and twice in the Jets, Yeah,

1594
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 12: it'll be a lot of time they're more sweat, and

1595
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 12: especially if you let Jared Goff look as comfortable and

1596
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 12: relax back there Stafford looked.

1597
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't give him time, that's for sure.

1598
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need a better defici.

1599
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: Stuff isn't Stafford. But you give him time. He's got

1600
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: enough talent around him. He'll pick you to.

1601
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to have a better defensive production in

1602
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: a day, in a game like this in Detroit. You

1603
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: got to play better than you did last week, no

1604
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: question about it. And it is I think the last

1605
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: big game on the schedule now. The division games are

1606
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: coming up New England twice in the Jets after that.

1607
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: I get it, but you know their seasons are over,

1608
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: completely over. This Lion's game, though, you do. You got

1609
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: to see a better performance from your defense. That's all

1610
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: there is to it. If you don't, it's going to

1611
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: be a hard game to win, maybe impossible.

1612
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jack in Lockport next. What's up Jack?

1613
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1614
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 5: You know him?

1615
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:48,520
Speaker 12: Guys.

1616
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 7: I have friends in LA and relatives, and I thought, well,

1617
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 7: what an opportunity. I haven't been there for years. Give

1618
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 7: me an opportunity to visit and go to the Bells game.

1619
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 7: And I tell you if you wondered if Bills fans

1620
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 7: travel was what an experience. My nephew joined me. He's

1621
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 7: from Charlotte and originally lived in Rochester. We were in

1622
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 7: Malibu Beach Saturday, just teme the Bills fans. I mean,

1623
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 7: it's go Bills, Go Bills.

1624
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: It was great.

1625
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 7: And there were Bills bankers party Saturday. They were at

1626
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 7: one place one part of the time, went to another

1627
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 7: place another part of the time. Sunday a big Bill's

1628
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 7: backers party, pregame party from eight to twelve. Now, when

1629
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 7: I was at the game, I went to the restroom

1630
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 7: at the third quarter, beginnings the fourth quarter, I was

1631
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,560
Speaker 7: in the restroom, I hear this cheer. Well, if you

1632
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 7: didn't know any better, you thought, oh jeez, the Rams

1633
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 7: just scored. Well we scored, but it was so loud.

1634
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 7: Let's go the other day, Let's go the other way.

1635
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 7: If you someone said, oh, the Bills just scored, you

1636
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 7: would have thought they were home.

1637
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: It was that loud.

1638
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,480
Speaker 7: It was just tremendous. Spills fans all, what a great experience.

1639
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 2: I'm glad you enjoyed it. Jack. Yeah, you could hear

1640
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Bill's fans and look the Rams experience. That against other

1641
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: teams too, to the point where they do practice Sidland

1642
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: count even for home games on offense because they have to.

1643
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, you know, it's one of those cities

1644
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: like Miami. It's like those southern cities where you know,

1645
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: people from the northeast, Philly, New England, Buffalo, you know,

1646
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: all these northeastern cities, Chicago, they travel to these southern

1647
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: cities get a weekend in to watch their team play.

1648
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's notorious for traveling extremely well. And now in this

1649
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: in this day and age, the Bills fans are. You know,

1650
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: they'll they'll take over a town like they did in

1651
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: La this last weekend. And it's it's fun to be

1652
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: a part of. No question.

1653
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

1654
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: We've got collision course coming your way here on one

1655
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Colt of Health, It's Buffalo Bills

1656
01:25:49,840 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: Radio Heating Up and Cooling Down presented by t Mark

1657
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: h Back and Plumbing calling the home team. Trust team Mark,

1658
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: You're Plumbing, Hvack and Electric Expert, an official partner of

1659
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Well, what's heating up? Or Josh Allen's

1660
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: MVP odds After a six touchdown performance last week in

1661
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: LA three on the ground, three through the air, and

1662
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: the odds makers have moved him to the top of

1663
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 2: the list.

1664
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,919
Speaker 1: You think, I really.

1665
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: Think the only person that could wreck this for him

1666
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: is if Barkley goes If he goes over two thousand,

1667
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 2: he probably will gets Dickerson's record.

1668
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: If he gets Dickerson's record, he might get it.

1669
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: That's what it takes for a running back to get

1670
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: an m three these days. I mean, the last one

1671
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 2: to win it was Peterson. He went over two thousand

1672
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: yards and was flirting with the record. I think the

1673
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 2: Vikings won the division that year two and he got mvp'

1674
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 2: that's like twenty twelve.

1675
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean it was a while ago, it was twenty twelve,

1676
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, and that's and that would be typical. That

1677
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: would be typical Buffalo bill break to have a running

1678
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: back get the twenty five or thirty year rushing record

1679
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: in a year where your quarterback should have been the MVP. Yeah.

1680
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: Cooling down Buffalo's pass defense, as we know, Matthew Stafford

1681
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: kind of had his way with that group last week

1682
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 2: to the tune of forty four points. He threw for

1683
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty plus yards and was not sacked

1684
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 2: at any point in the game. So the Bills really

1685
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: struggled to match their rush with their coverage, as Nikua

1686
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: and Cup were principally responsible for slicing through the Bill's

1687
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: defense most of the afternoon. So that has got to

1688
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: change quickly.

1689
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm I think it will. I mean, you

1690
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: talked to the guy, even the guys right after the game.

1691
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: We're well, man, we just did not do what we

1692
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: were supposed to do. We didn't play our game. We

1693
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: didn't play the plan and play the plant. It was

1694
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: a just went off the air. And for whatever the

1695
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: reason for that is, whatever the reason, you got to

1696
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 1: get on top of. It'll be easy to see it

1697
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: on film and they'll you know, they were grinding through

1698
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: the tape yesterday, I'm sure and getting an earfull. Uh.

1699
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: You've got to come out and play better. Their defensive

1700
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: lines got to play better up front, They've got to

1701
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: get pressure on Jared Goff. They've got to get a

1702
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: couple of sacks, and of course, you know, get back

1703
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: to getting turnovers would be an enormous help, although you

1704
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: can never count on that when you know someday that

1705
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: streak of getting one every game would probably come to

1706
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 1: an end. But that's how important they are.

1707
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: So that's heating Up and cooling Down presented by t

1708
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: Mark Hvac and Plumbing. So as we look ahead to

1709
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: this next game, I think the chief concern here, well, actually,

1710
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's a big concern on the

1711
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: part of Bills fans based on the feedback we got today,

1712
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 2: only because it's an NFC opponent. It doesn't hurt your

1713
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: conference record, which as we know, comes into play in

1714
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: terms of tie breakers, but common games do. It's like

1715
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 2: third or fourth on the list, but it still comes

1716
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 2: into play. I mean, it's not like this game is nothing.

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01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: And as we discussed earlier, the fact that the Bills

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01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: are playing the Lions and the Steelers are playing the

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01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: Eagles in both conferences, there could be a big swing

1720
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: in the standings in terms of how they're all lining up.

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01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a huge weekend for matchups

1722
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: and the seeding and coming down the stretch in the AFC.

1723
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: Certainly the Pittsburgh Seedars have a much more difficult stretch

1724
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: coming up than the Bills do. And the Chiefs, who knows,

1725
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: they could be playing anybody. They're still gonna win by

1726
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a point, so we'll see how that plays out.

1727
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. Bills are back on the

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Speaker 2: practice field tomorrow. We'll have all the updates for you

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Speaker 2: and we'll see it one