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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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Speaker 1: today's Thursday, December twenty First, Derek, it's not here at

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Speaker 1: the time. I'm not sure where he ran off too,

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Speaker 1: but Davis here, Nike is here, and I'm here. We

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Speaker 1: are ready to talk some cowboys. So how are you

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Speaker 1: guys doing? Paper covers rock? Is that a reference to

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Speaker 1: the measurement in Oakland? Or we moving on from that?

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Speaker 1: I just decided who did that? Yeah, no, I know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how that means. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: got paper moves the rock, paper covers del Rio right, Yeah, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's move on from that. We're going on. We're only

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Speaker 1: talking about Seattle. We're focusing on Seattle now, So let's

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Speaker 1: start off with the injury report. Several guys in odd

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Speaker 1: practice yesterday, A lot of guys. Yeah, Hey, DeMarcus Lawrence back,

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Speaker 1: I saw that. Thank you appreciate that Marcus Lawrence made

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. He was not a practice yesterday and

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Speaker 1: he shows up with a back injury concerns on this back.

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Speaker 1: Um took me a second, Yeah, I was like, what

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Speaker 1: be wrong, but it strikes me more as like a

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Speaker 1: precautionary slash, let's not overdo it type of thing, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's the type of thing that's

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Speaker 1: only Thursday morning. Still, so dave of me to say,

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Speaker 1: But it's like maybe he was getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: pats on the back. Yeah, Pro Bowl. He was too

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Speaker 1: out to practice. I saw him walking around at practice,

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Speaker 1: totally forgot to ask him why he's not out there,

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Speaker 1: And it happens Dave's sitting there writing a story going

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Speaker 1: at this time. We do not know why, demark, No,

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Speaker 1: You're just having a conversation there, both of you, just

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Speaker 1: watching practice, seeing the guys out there. Yeah, Wait, why

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Speaker 1: say that, like you don't need to be out there,

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Speaker 1: and then it was just congratulations on the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: and then never really got the answer. But we know

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Speaker 1: now it's the back. Yeah. But the fact that he was,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's that called, which cryo? There's hydro, there's

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Speaker 1: But I don't get the impression it's something that's going

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Speaker 1: I killed Bryce not to go to Oakland. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: And yesterday we talked about Russell Wilson's ability and mobility

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Speaker 1: Lawrence on the defensive line, Yeah, how will this affect

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys ability to pressure Russell? It worries the crap

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Speaker 1: That was the narrative, right, and well that's right or wrong.

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Speaker 1: You say that over and over and over again, and

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Speaker 1: all those people that are influenced by listening and reading

425
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Speaker 1: that stuff, what they start to think over time is, uh,

426
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Speaker 1: you add in the allegations, You add in the video

427
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Speaker 1: of him pulling the top down, a little of the

428
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Speaker 1: young lady, You add in that yesterday, and it creates

429
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Speaker 1: this narrative. Now he's helping to create the negative narrative

430
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Speaker 1: about himself, that he is an immature, petulant kid rather

431
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Speaker 1: than an adult who really understands kind of what his

432
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Speaker 1: role is here and the image that he should be

433
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Speaker 1: putting out there, which the counter to that is Zeke

434
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: will tell you and millions of die hard Cowboys fans

435
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Speaker 1: will tell you like, I don't give a damn. You

436
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Speaker 1: don't know them anything. Keep doing you nice to say,

437
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Speaker 1: it isn't which, well it is nice to say and like,

438
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Speaker 1: and you're not entirely wrong, you're not. But he had

439
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Speaker 1: a chance to win over a lot of good will

440
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Speaker 1: with a lot of people who aren't just in his camp,

441
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Speaker 1: you know, like people that are on the fence about

442
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Speaker 1: him or people who don't like him. He had a

443
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Speaker 1: chance to earn some good will there and he decided

444
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Speaker 1: not to take. And I'll give you the example that

445
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Speaker 1: I mentioned, Teo. Think about it like this. TiO never,

446
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Speaker 1: to my knowledge, broke a single law, like in his

447
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: whole time of his career, never actually did anything that

448
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: was illegal that he was talked, that was talked about,

449
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Speaker 1: or that was attached his name. But you ask any

450
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Speaker 1: fan whether they are a big fan of t or not,

451
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Speaker 1: that you ask him what they think of him as

452
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Speaker 1: a person, and I guarantee you nine times out of

453
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Speaker 1: ten the impression of him is negative exactly. So yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: there are gonna be a lot of fans that right

455
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Speaker 1: now are like, man, you don't have to say nothing. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: screw the media. But the fact is, you keep hearing

457
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Speaker 1: the same narrative over in Oh. It's how people are

458
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Speaker 1: manipulated sometimes by the media. There's a lot of studies

459
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Speaker 1: on this stuff. But all I'm saying is he didn't

460
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Speaker 1: do himself any favors yesterday by the way. He handled

461
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Speaker 1: totally within his rights to do it the way he did.

462
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Speaker 1: He just didn't do him himself any favor. I do

463
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Speaker 1: think there's a difference between you know, obviously TiO and

464
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Speaker 1: now because to needed the media as much as the

465
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Speaker 1: media needed him, and he knew that and he just

466
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Speaker 1: played that game with them for But Zeke doesn't feel

467
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Speaker 1: that way. And it's a different world. It's a different

468
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Speaker 1: time now when you've got guys that you can you

469
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Speaker 1: know that you can put it out your own social stuff,

470
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Speaker 1: and then you have your teammates that retweet it. And

471
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Speaker 1: on the promotion side, you're absolutely right, I don't. I

472
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Speaker 1: think it's getting less and less where professional athletes, especially

473
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Speaker 1: those that are very popular, need the media in order

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Speaker 1: to promote what they want to promote. But the fly

475
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Speaker 1: side of that is the media is still in a

476
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Speaker 1: lot of instances controls the narrative on what people think

477
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Speaker 1: of a particular break and that's where it can be

478
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Speaker 1: problematic for a guy like him, especially guy like him

479
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Speaker 1: that right now is facing a lot of things that

480
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Speaker 1: people are saying about him that and some that he

481
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Speaker 1: feels aren't even true. And it sucks because when you're writing,

482
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Speaker 1: and that happened for me yesterday, you know, it was

483
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Speaker 1: completely disappointing because I expected a seat that was coming

484
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Speaker 1: back a little different, a different attitude, and then we

485
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Speaker 1: get that, which, again, like you guys said, it is

486
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Speaker 1: totally fine, fine, but when you're writing a story, you're

487
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Speaker 1: trying to take out your personal feelings of how you

488
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Speaker 1: feel about this person and kind of write in a different,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, very different perspective of just overall keep it.

490
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Speaker 1: I'm biased, and it's hard, it's hard to give to

491
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Speaker 1: take those feelings out, and it took me a lot

492
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Speaker 1: of work, but I did it. I did it. I

493
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Speaker 1: wrote a pretty nice article. It's spanished, you know. And

494
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Speaker 1: it happens like that too. Like I'm a big believer

495
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Speaker 1: in people give people in the media give benefit of

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Speaker 1: doubt to people they like exactly. You know, there are

497
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Speaker 1: guys who probably got the benefit of the doubt for

498
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Speaker 1: a year or two, for a year or two playing

499
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Speaker 1: when they were probably not as good as they were,

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Speaker 1: but people, because they liked them, they were unwilling to say, man,

501
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Speaker 1: that guy's not playing very well. They would say stuff like, well,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, he's he's not what he used to be,

503
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Speaker 1: he's getting a little older. But right, they make excuses

504
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Speaker 1: for the guy because they like the guy, where it's

505
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Speaker 1: completely the opposite side if they don't like it, if

506
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Speaker 1: they don't like you, maybe even when your production is

507
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: still there, they're like, man, is the production worth the headache?

508
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Speaker 1: Like those kind of things start being said, right, and

509
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Speaker 1: and so I think, again, you don't have to play

510
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Speaker 1: the game. None of these players have to play the

511
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: game with the media. You don't. But understand the consequences

512
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Speaker 1: of not playing the game means that you're going to

513
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Speaker 1: accept the consequences of not playing along. And and so

514
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Speaker 1: that's what I think Zeke has to understand it. Maybe

515
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: he does, and maybe he's decided I'm willing to deal

516
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Speaker 1: with those consequences because at the end of the day,

517
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm good enough where it won't matter.

518
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Speaker 1: And that's well within his right. It's worked out for

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Speaker 1: plenty of other players too. For the I mean, has

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Speaker 1: it I would argue, Yeah, give me some examples. Randy

521
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Speaker 1: Moss was Randy Moss a problem with the media. He

522
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: was like just a problem in general. But no, that's

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Speaker 1: a different there's a difference there. Why don't we think

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Speaker 1: about that after this break one? Okay, take a break,

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Speaker 1: but I was just thinking that into you have to

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Speaker 1: of The Break live from the SWBC Organ studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Appreciate you guys joining us. Even though I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit late. I apologize. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: join us. Derek. Yeah. I try to do what I

574
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Speaker 1: can do when I can do it. Um, So, did

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Speaker 1: you guys have a chance? Why are you looking at

576
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Speaker 1: my head? Man? Am I you would look like what

577
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Speaker 1: are you looking at? No, I'm looking at the SWBC

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Speaker 1: mortgage uh signage over here that they sponsored this. It's

579
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Speaker 1: just jealous. He can't grow enough. Yeah, that's the problem.

580
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Speaker 1: He wants to be like me. Definitely, definitely, y'all make

581
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Speaker 1: me And I was like you when I was in

582
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Speaker 1: seventh grade at five ten, and then I moved, Wow, Wow, Okay,

583
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go there like that. Actually, I just what's

584
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Speaker 1: up with you? Wow? They even gave you an inch?

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, Okay, we're gonna go like that. All right,

586
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Speaker 1: We're gonna wrestle like you did back in the fraternity days.

587
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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm seeing you pick up a co

588
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Speaker 1: worker and slam him on a cousin, a co worker. Yes,

589
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Speaker 1: he was in my department. Well, okay, all right, all right,

590
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Speaker 1: did y'all have a chance to think about that? Give

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Speaker 1: me some examples, like when has this worked out for

592
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Speaker 1: a player that just basically kind of blew off the

593
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Speaker 1: media regularly and and that worked out well for them?

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Speaker 1: Larry Allen different, I mean, Larry, Larry allowing off the

595
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Speaker 1: media is blowing off the media. Yeah, But I think

596
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Speaker 1: the difference is because if you're gonna do that, you

597
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Speaker 1: could say the entire offensive line for ten fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they had a bad relationship with

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Speaker 1: the media. Because here's the thing. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: you will notice even when an offensive lineman won't talk

601
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Speaker 1: on camera. You'll always see one or two guys that'll

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Speaker 1: walk up to them and they'll have conversations. They just

603
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Speaker 1: don't want to be on camera doing it, but they'll

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Speaker 1: talk together. They lean talked back back in the day,

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially Nate. Nate talked all the time, talked

606
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Speaker 1: too much sometimes, but but no, I mean's why he

607
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Speaker 1: has a job in the media. Yeah, Larry Allen is

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest players in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't he didn't talk and it was okay,

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Speaker 1: you know it was it was just it was okay,

611
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Speaker 1: Now it wasn't it wasn't standoffish, which wait, okay. The difference, well,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna you can apply that. Tyrant Smith's the

613
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: same way right now, Like you gotta twist his arm

614
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Speaker 1: to get him to give you like a minute of

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Speaker 1: audio and don't even try to do like video interview.

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Speaker 1: And it's like like, but there's a different I know,

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Speaker 1: he's like he's not a jerk. He would prefer not

618
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Speaker 1: to do it. And he's not a great quote anyway.

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Speaker 1: So nobody really like you know, cores like like I

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Speaker 1: know there's gold in there, Tyrn, Like come on, talk to.

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Speaker 1: It's just like gold and here or here, he's like

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Speaker 1: he's just not a talkative dude, really nice though, like right,

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Speaker 1: it don't have a bad word to say about him,

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Speaker 1: but he does not do the media. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: honestly think it's one of the reasons, and it's one

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Speaker 1: it's one of the things that I think endears as

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Speaker 1: much as they give him flat. I think it's one

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Speaker 1: of the things that endears the media to Jerry Jones,

629
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Speaker 1: is despite the fact that they've ride him incessantly, like

630
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Speaker 1: they're always finding things and he gives them a lot

631
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Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about. Right. But the thing is,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like Jerry ever takes it personally. It

633
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he ever gets to a point like

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Speaker 1: we see it every year training camp. There's a guy

635
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Speaker 1: here locally in Dallas probably has as much bad as

636
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: many bad things to say about Jerry as anybody, and

637
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: every year training camp, Jerry is quick to mention him

638
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: by name in that opening press conference that he's there,

639
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: which by the way, would probably be the only press

640
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: conference he attends all year. And but but it's that

641
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: kind of thing where Jerry's just like he doesn't take

642
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: it personally, and he still understands the media is there

643
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: to do their job. He's gonna not. He understands and

644
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: respects the fact they have to do a job, and

645
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: that just that's the end of it. And I think

646
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: it's so much smarter to handle the media that way

647
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: than the other way, because I really can't think of

648
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: an instance where somebody was really just bad with the

649
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: media and that ended up working out. Yeah, good publicity,

650
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: bad publicity. Jerry just hears the second word. He just

651
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: hears the publicity like good. I mean, I businessman, you're

652
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: talking about me. Good. Bad, But they're still talking about me.

653
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's he's the goat. This isn't

654
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm seeing some comments on Twitter, and I just want

655
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: to remind people that be locked and loaded here. Not

656
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: everything you see is necessarily the reality of things. Something

657
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: that you see on a video isn't necessarily how it's

658
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: in reality. So the media that is actually in the

659
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: locker room, well, four times a week for whatever, forty

660
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: five minutes or however long it is, five if you

661
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: count the game, well yeah five, you're in there. They

662
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: are in there, and they get to see the true

663
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: personality of these guys. So just keep in mind that

664
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Speaker 1: because I'm saying that this isn't a fair conversation that

665
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Sik is cooperating blah blah. And I'm not just talking

666
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: about Sik, just in general, keep in mind not everything

667
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: that you see is how it is some next levels.

668
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: True is true, It's very true, But I mean, I

669
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Speaker 1: just I'm missing the point there of what kind of

670
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: what you're well, I'm seen comments in an agreement would

671
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: seek you know, he's cooperating, blah blah. This isn't a

672
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: fair argument. And it's yeah, you can say that he

673
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: does the interviews and stuff, but we have seen him

674
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: off camera. Okay, we have seen his attitude certain times.

675
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: We know how these players are, you know, or like

676
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: how maybe Dez gets before he steps in front of

677
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: the camera. You know, the hassle that it is to

678
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: get him in front of the camera. I got you.

679
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: So just because you see a video of him talking

680
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: to the media doesn't oh yeah he's great, which I've

681
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: said multiple times on this, like he did cooperate, He

682
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: held up his end of the bargain, like and he

683
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: doesn't owe anybody answers to any questions. He doesn't want

684
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Speaker 1: to talk about. But it you know, it's the it's

685
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion and perceptions, and so you're

686
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: not in control of that. Like you know, I'm sorry

687
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: to catch up. We're talking to a fan base right

688
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: now that I think ninety five percent of them just

689
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: want him to run the football, no doubt. Yeah, I

690
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: just run that ball. You know, you've served your time

691
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: this season. This season is gonna be not what we

692
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: what we wanted it to be because of that. You know,

693
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to the fact that this team

694
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: will be in ten and six or nine and seven,

695
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, doesn't matter. That six game suspension absolutely killed them.

696
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: Killed this team, and they everyone knows they don't make

697
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That in my opinion, will be the reason.

698
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: Even if they make the playoffs at ten and six

699
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: and they're the sixth seed and they go to the

700
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: third seed and they lose to the New Orleans let's

701
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: say that they're the three. You know you're not you

702
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: say you don't win up there. This it still killed

703
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: them because that they could have done things. They could

704
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: have maybe won this divison, maybe one that doubtful, and

705
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: win in the division. But they realize that at times

706
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: in the last decade, ten and six is good enough

707
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: to get you a bye week. Yeah, yeah, just for

708
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: whatever that's This happens to be one of those years

709
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: when the NFC is just ridiculously better than average and

710
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: TFC is awful and they won a lot of those games.

711
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys will probably be in the playoffs right now, they're

712
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: in the AFC. To your point, Zeke has and he

713
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: made he went out of his way to thank the

714
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: fans in the longest answer he gave like he's got

715
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people that completely agree with him and

716
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: have his back, and that's so I completely understand why

717
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: he handled it the way he did. And there's a

718
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: lot of people that either don't care or completely agree

719
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: with him. And all the fine too. In all fairness

720
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: on that, I mean, we were told the exact same thing, Nick.

721
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: I know you did the one on one with him,

722
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: but we were told before that that by not only Zeke,

723
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: but by his representatives. He does not want to talk

724
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: about the past. He wants to move forward, he wants

725
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: to look forward, and so this was not something that

726
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: was any different than than what we were told as well.

727
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of his mentality when he

728
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: was coming back was I really don't want to rehash

729
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: all that. I want to kind of move forward and

730
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: let that stuff go because and that might be best

731
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: for him, Like he can't go around being bitter and

732
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: angry about it. And so part of maybe being not

733
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: being bitter and angry means I got to move on.

734
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I can't really focus on what happened in the past. Well,

735
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: but when I I mean I asked him about his auditioning, yeah,

736
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: let you ask yeah, yeah, I answered those about what

737
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: he's learned. Yeah, you know the message has he cleared

738
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: his name, So he answered a little bit more there.

739
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he probably gave us a little more difference

740
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: because of the location because there was just one on one.

741
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: But the fact is, again he was very adamant and

742
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: his people were very adamant. They didn't want to talk

743
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: about the past before we did the interview, and that's true.

744
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: So I don't think that he gave the media anything

745
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: different than what I think. He came back with an

746
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: intention I'm not going to talk about this stuff. I'm

747
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: gonna move forward, and whatever is going to be talked about,

748
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: we'll be talked about. Based upon the documentary, yeah, which

749
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Amer I heard you say a

750
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: little bit earlier when I was heading down to Shaw.

751
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I was listening and you were like, he could have

752
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: done a better job promoting against documentary. I mean, that's

753
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: why you do junkets and that kind of thing is

754
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: because you want to talk a little bit about it

755
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: to get people excited to want to watch it. And

756
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, Dave, Yeah he could. He

757
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: can definitely push it out there, but there's a whole

758
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: other side of that of getting people excited about watching it,

759
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: and that to me is the option. Again, he only

760
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: missed opportunities yesterday. He didn't do anything wrong. He just

761
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: missed opportunities to put himself in a better position. That's

762
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: how I feel. And that's like, I think that's that's

763
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: on him. It's a sinct way to say it. Yeah,

764
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: all right, let's actually, you know we need to do.

765
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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get that second break. When we

766
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: get that second break, we'll come back and Dave, are

767
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Speaker 1: you going to give us a Scoutter report on the

768
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seak defense? I sure can. All right, let's do that.

769
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Speaker 1: in and just buy a bunch of stuff. It'll be

847
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: walk in, hang out, have a drink, eat some food,

848
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: and buy a star. I'm talking about an ugly, drab,

849
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: white cinder block in the middle of a parking that's

850
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: probably that will probably be dead at some point, but

851
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's I don't think that that

852
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: the mall will be dead. It'll just be that constant.

853
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: Last night, No, it a lot, Oh god, I needed

854
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: Moose Johnston out there. Don't go to a mall after Thanksgiving.

855
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know why people. That's I don't

856
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: want know why everybody doesn't shop online. Online shopping is great,

857
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: but you know, depending on the company, you might buy

858
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: it and it doesn't ship for three or four days.

859
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Like that's not going to help you out very much.

860
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: Today's world. First, it depends on the company. But Amazon,

861
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: two hours after you order it, boom, there's not there's

862
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: all that stuff I ordered. There was a couple things

863
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: from Amazon, but most of us from like different websites,

864
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: and we have received pretty much everything Warehouse. Yeah, yeah,

865
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Tommy john that they ship pretty fast. They do ship

866
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: pretty fast. I don't know, but I'm just gonna say

867
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: they do they do? John? Do they do? Yeah? They do.

868
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I know I've placed some waters and gotten it like

869
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. So yeah, we hope here on my Christmas

870
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: Tommy Johnson on Cowboys Break, we hope you wanted what

871
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: yours for shopping? I didn't know I was no, I

872
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: thought you said. I got on my Tommy John and

873
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing? What are you showing?

874
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Y'all never fail to make me feel uncomfortable. Like once

875
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: per segment, promp about Bobby Wagner. You want to know

876
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: about Bobby Wagner. Yes, uh, he's hurt. Cam Chancellor, he's hurt.

877
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, he's playing, but he's not one hundred percent.

878
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, he's hurt. Brian Bosworth, he's he's pimp. And

879
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: this he was searching for any name from back in

880
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: the day as you could throw out Kenny easily. This. No,

881
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of Fame now, okay, he's sorry, right, sorry,

882
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. Okay. I just wanted they did some

883
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: hard work too, is part of this out. Uh, this

884
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: Seattle defense is a lot like the fall of the

885
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: Roman Empire, you know, like they've been on you guys,

886
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: don't care whatever. No, I'm sorry, no, go ahead, go ahead.

887
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: What I got caught up there? I should have done that.

888
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I felt really good about that line, like about the

889
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: Roman Empire, and y'all just talked right through it. No

890
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: welcome world. Yeah, Uh, this defense has been one of

891
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the best in the league for the better part of

892
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: a decade, and they're not right now. Uh well, mostly

893
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: because of injuries. I mean, let's go back through it.

894
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman's on injured reserve, Cam Chancellor's on injured reserve.

895
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner played last week, but he's I mean, his

896
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: hamstring is bad and he did not look like Bobby Wagner.

897
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Cliff Avril is out. Um, I feel like I'm missing

898
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: one more. We know, Earl Thomas's Earl Thomas is gimpie. Yeah,

899
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: thank you. All right. So I just listed basically five

900
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: of their six best defenders, like the one and most

901
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: of that's in their secondary, which is the strength I

902
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: think of their defense. kJ right still there and Michael

903
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: Bennett's still there. Other than that, Bennett can be a handful.

904
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, oh, I mean this this despite all that,

905
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: these guys still have a lot of talent. Michael Bennett

906
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: is your left end. Frank Clark, who Brian absolutely loved

907
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, is your right end. They

908
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: traded for Sheldon Richardson, they have Giron reed. Like, in

909
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: spite of everything, this is still a first und second,

910
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: still a really good defensive line. Um. Bobby Wagner, for

911
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: my money is either he's one of the three best

912
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: middle linebackers in the league. I mean him, Sean Lee

913
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: and Luke Keakley are like the three in my opinion. Uh,

914
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: he made the Pro Bowl. Wagner, yes, he's he's amazing,

915
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: but he does not look amazing right now. If you

916
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: go watch the tape of them against the Rams, basically sorry,

917
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: basically everything that happened, it's because Bobby Wagner isn't playing

918
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: like himself. Todd Gurley murdered them single handedly four touchdowns.

919
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't have the rushing total off hand, but he

920
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: was just chunking ten, fourteen, sixteen yards. It really was obvious.

921
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: I actually saw the Rams broke this play down on

922
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: their telestrator on Twitter last night. Third and twenty, just

923
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: an absolute give up play. They run a draw to

924
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley and Bobby Wagner didn't get there on time,

925
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: and he went fifty seven yards for a touchdown twenty one,

926
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: third and twenty. Like that's the type of thing that

927
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: you see, you know, college college teams. That's so you know,

928
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: it's just not your day. You're gonna Bobby Wagner. I

929
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: mean he's he read the play and he just couldn't

930
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: get there in time. And by the time he missed

931
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: on the tackle, Todd Gurley's in the secondary and just

932
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: splitting the safety. It was bad. And like it's it's

933
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: striking watching this team's last three games because they don't

934
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: they don't look like themselves. Go back to Seattle two

935
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago. This kid, Kirie Cole or Kyrie Cole, comes

936
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: out of a bunch formation. There's confusion about which linebackers

937
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: supposed to carry him, and then the safeties forget about

938
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: him because, as you know, Chancellor's not there and Thomas

939
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: is not himself, and all of a sudden, he's twenty

940
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: yards behind the coverage. Like you just haven't seen Seattle

941
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: given up plays like this and forever, which and their

942
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: mediocre across the board. They're fifteenth and total defense, they're

943
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: thirteenth and passing defense, they're seventeenth and run defense, and

944
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: they're twelfth in points per game. They're giving up twenty

945
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: twenty two, which fun for the Cowboys. The last two

946
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: opponents have given you the blueprint for how to do it.

947
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: You had Leonard Fournette and Todd Gurley. Honestly, I mean,

948
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: what a week for Ezekiel Elliott to be back, because

949
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: if they look like this, I mean it should be

950
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: there for him. Honestly, I think it should be the

951
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: big thing for me is the pass rush. Bennett and

952
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Clark can they erect this thing if Tyron Smith's not

953
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: in there, And I think that'll be a problem. I

954
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: think Zeke's gonna need to stay in and do some

955
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: pass pro and Jason Witten and the tight ends are

956
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: going to have to have a role. That's the like

957
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: and we talked about that with Khalil Mack and Bruce

958
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Irvan last week, is like, those are the strength of

959
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: your team and you can't let them reck stuff. Well,

960
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: they kind of did, like I mean, they had a

961
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: hard time with those two guys in spite of everything

962
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: last week. The one thing to say about that, though,

963
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: is that we haven't really seen that happen when Zeke's

964
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: been a part of things, And mainly it's because Drew

965
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys offensively don't put them in themselves in a position

966
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: where they can't get wrecked because they're not passing a

967
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: ton like they're running the ball consistently. They're running it

968
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: well and again, if it works out the way that

969
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: it worked out last week for the Rams, where they're

970
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: having a hard time stopping the run, the Cowboys are

971
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: gonna keep giving it to them in the run, and

972
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: that slows down your pass rush because you now have

973
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: to be concerned about the guy just dashing past you

974
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: and now getting into the second level if I I mean,

975
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: I always talk way more simplified than they do, obviously,

976
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: but I would just run right at them. Yeah, their

977
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: enforcer in the middle is hurt, and they're you know,

978
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: bam bam cam. Probably the best strong safety in the

979
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: league not there, yep. I would run right at the

980
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: middle of the defense. Don't even try anything cute. I

981
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: love those stretch plays where Zeke gets to the boundary

982
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: and then finds though I don't even know why you

983
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: would bother with that, because your left tackle might not

984
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: play and their best two defensive linemen are on the edge.

985
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: I would run straight up the middle of this defense

986
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: and see if they can handle it. I mean, they're

987
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: giving up one hundred and thirteen yards per game. But

988
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: the one thing I will say is if you're if

989
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: your middle linebacker has a hamstring issue, I kind of

990
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: want to get him running sore. Running those stretch plays,

991
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: to me, is a good thing as much in as

992
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: frequently as you like, just if nothing else, make him run,

993
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: Make him run a lot, because it's not hamstring angle

994
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: get better during the game. If he's running a lot,

995
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: well that's if you can get the running game going,

996
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: play action and not. I mean, I'm not trying to

997
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: take like these crazy shots like get guys running across

998
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: the field. Terrence Williams, Jason Witney. I love boots and

999
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: waggles and they work. So that's what I'm looking at.

1000
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: It's good stuff, you guys. This is this is a

1001
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: shell of what they what you're used to seeing from Seattle.

1002
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: There's there less two games Jacksonville and Jacksonville in the

1003
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Rim thirty and forty forty two. I mean, yeah, that's

1004
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: seventy two points. They've probably gone when they were at

1005
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: their their peak. You know, they've probably gone eight eight

1006
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: games with seventy two points. It's it's it's not it's

1007
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: something to see when you like when you put it

1008
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: on tape and you're like, oh my god, Like i mean,

1009
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's offense is not a juggernaut. Like no, all the

1010
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: defense is really good. Lake Portles is out of nowhere

1011
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: playing the best like month of his touchdowns no interception,

1012
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: it's three or four games. Um. But even at that though,

1013
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: my point is they heat. Their offense has not been

1014
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: what they've been doing great this year. They run the

1015
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: ball really well and they play great defense. Right if

1016
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: you pull up you know on NFL game Pass, they

1017
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: have the little menu where it tells you what the

1018
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: play is, and it's like t Gurley second and ten

1019
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: six yards third and four fourteen yards first and ten

1020
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: sixteen yards just like just one after another. Wow, it

1021
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: was Yeah, So, how well did did did four Nette

1022
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: play that game? How will the hum run well enough?

1023
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't pull up the final box score,

1024
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: but I mean he had two rushing touchdowns and was

1025
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't do girly? I mean gurly. I

1026
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: have to believe that's like the highest fantasy total of

1027
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: the year. Barely went crazy. Yeah, but Fournette played well

1028
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: against them. They didn't do a good job of stopping him.

1029
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: So it's obvious that there are a lot of areas

1030
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: to exploit. What do you guys think are some areas

1031
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: that you would you would say, hey, this is what

1032
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys really need to do to take advantage of

1033
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: this defense. Um to take advantage of the defense. I mean,

1034
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I like what Dave said about running the ball, you know,

1035
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: right at him. I think that what Zeke will do

1036
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: having him there, I think we'll we'll just stretch, stretch

1037
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: things out more. I want to see more passes down

1038
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: down the field some I mean, I think I absolutely

1039
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: love the flea flicker that they did, and I know

1040
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: that they missed it, but you know what that taking

1041
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: the deep shots out there, It was there, The pass

1042
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: was was right where it need to be, and you

1043
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: know Terrence has dropped it. I mean, but I like

1044
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: stretching it out a little bit more, especially when you

1045
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: have Zeke. So I just think, use fifty three yards wide,

1046
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: use the whole field, and with Zeke out there, I

1047
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: think you're going to see these receivers make a little

1048
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: more plays down the field. The Cowboys are in absolute

1049
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: advantage right now, especially with zig back and the Seahawks

1050
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: defense in the past as being a defense that I

1051
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: personally do not like just because of how aggressive they play,

1052
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: and it just like would worry me all the time.

1053
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, they're gonna really hurt somebody.

1054
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't like them in the sense that

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Speaker 1: you don't like to play them, not that you don't

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00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: think they're good. No, that's the point. They're just too good,

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00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: too aggressive, and too like, don't damage our players, you

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00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: know type of things. They've already done that once or twice. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: But I don't feel that way right now with all

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00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: the injuries they have and how their team is looking

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00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: at this point. Pretty excited about this game, you know.

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00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: I'll say this about the Dallas and Seattle. I think

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00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been built to beat them, even when

1064
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: they were really good. In twenty fourteen. Dallas was better

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00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: that day out there and ran the ball right over him.

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00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen, Seattle was still good. Cowboys were not, but

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00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: they had chances to win. I mean, I think was

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00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: it thirteen to twelve that they should have won. They

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00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: should have won that game. They played really really well

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Speaker 1: that day. So I just think that for some reason,

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: they match up well when it's just the styles match

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00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: up well. So in this case, with Seattle struggling the

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: way they do, the Cowboys still kind of play their game.

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00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: I agree with her. I think, I think they're going

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00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: to be in a good, good shape to run the

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00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: ball and kind of they should have the advantage here.

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Speaker 1: My main memory of that game, which worries me for

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00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: this game is like the Seahawks just I don't think

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00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: they even bothered running a play where Russell Wilson was

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00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: in the pocket, like he was just moving troubling around

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: to get immediately and they could already have a great

1082
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of have to. Russell Wilson won, right, Russell Wilson

1083
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: won that game because Hardy like picked him off on

1084
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: a tipped pass or something and Russell Wilson like grabbed

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00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: Hardy's ankle or else it would have been a pick

1086
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: six to take the lead in the fourth and the

1087
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys shocking that Cowboys offense couldn't score a touchdown from

1088
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: like the Seattle fifteen. Just that what an awful who

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00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: was a quarter who's the quarterback Castle's second or third

1090
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: start that season was so dreadful that sounds so far away.

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: It was like I think they were I think they

1092
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: were down thirteen to ten, and Hardy gave him the

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00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: ball in like basically in the Seattle red zone, and

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00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: they ran like three plays and kicked a field goal.

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00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: It was so disheartening. Three plays two yards. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: that's horrible. All right, let's get some questions. You guys

1097
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: can call us two one firs six seven four seven

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Speaker 1: one I'm sorry two four eighty seven two twenty one

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Speaker 1: two two one eight seven two twenty one h two.

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Speaker 1: Or you can hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break.

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00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Let's get a question from Twitter. Do you guys think

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: that Dak is just taking too long to make it

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: a se with the ball, whether it's throwing it or

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00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: making it play with his feet. I don't. I don't

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: think he's taking too long. I think he would love

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00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: to throw it if they were open. I think the

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00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: receivers take too long to get open. I think or

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00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: don't get open. Yeah. I mean you can get open

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00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: eventually eventually. Yeah, but you know, I got so much time.

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00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I know, Like, do you think I could eventually get

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00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: open on Patrick Peter? So eventually? No? No, you would

1112
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: get tired before you could get open. You would eventually

1113
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: spat man. I give up, man, I can't do it.

1114
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: Like there is a certain class of quarterback. Nope, I'm

1115
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: thinking it open. I'm thinking of Mickey Spagnola. Right now.

1116
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: Like in a there's a certain class of quarterback where

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: I can just hear Mickey go, come on, get rid

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: of the ball, just like you know, just hate like,

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00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: But I don't ever think that with Dak, Like I'm

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00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: not ever sitting there. Maybe it's because he sounds like

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00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: you're sitting next to Mickey on the I actually I

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00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: actually don't. You can just hear him from you can

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00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: hear him from anywhere in the press box, but um,

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Speaker 1: I don't ever think that would act. Maybe it's because

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00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: he's mobile. Maybe it's because, like I know that he's

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00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: got a chance to run or get away from a guy.

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00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: But I never I'm never worried that he's holding onto

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00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: the ball too long. Like that's never been something that

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00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: I you know, it was back when Parcels was here

1130
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: and he used to do this with some of the

1131
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. You remember, he used to have that little

1132
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: that little sounder that would kind of the blair kind

1133
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: of after a few seconds where it was like get

1134
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. This is what yeah, And ever

1135
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: since then it got it gave me first, it gave

1136
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: me an indication of how fast this game is. Like

1137
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: this is like literally snap horn but that's how fast

1138
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: you need to get rid of the ball. And it's

1139
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: so it kind of has this thing in my head

1140
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: once it gets beyond that. Now, after that kind of

1141
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: I kind of sense, oh wow, he's holding the ball

1142
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: a little bit long here. Get rid of the ball.

1143
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: Get rid of the ball. But in twenty fourteen, I

1144
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: remember Romo saying that that clock has has been changed

1145
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: from what it was when why Phil Costa was snapping

1146
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: and you know you had Bill Nagy starting for you,

1147
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: it's because it's a better offense. I mean the game

1148
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: that Odell had that great catch against the Giants. Everyone

1149
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: remembers that play, but the Cowboys had to drive down

1150
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: the field and win the game and Dez caught the

1151
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: game winner in the end zone. And I swear Romo

1152
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: was running around for eight seconds on that play. I

1153
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: mean seriously, it was like he had a lot of time.

1154
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean that offensive line. And he even said that

1155
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: that that mental clock that you've had in your head

1156
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: and for all these years, you can maybe add a

1157
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: second or two. Yeah, and Dak definitely benefits from that, yeah, absolutely.

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00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: But I mean either way, I think it still is

1159
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: like there still is that gotta get rid of the ball, right,

1160
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 1: you gotta move it, you gotta. But do you find

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00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: yourself think thinking that when you're watching him? Not necessarily,

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00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily. As a matter of fact, I kind

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00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: of think a lot of times he gets he does

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00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: get a little bit of extra time. I actually do

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00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: the inverse when I'm watching the Cowboys defense, like, man, wow,

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00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: he should get he should be being sacked right now.

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: What's what's going on? Like there's it seems like opposing

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks seemed to have a little bit le Collins is

1169
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: just sitting on a guy. There we go, that's what happened. Like, yeah,

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00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: there were a couple of snaps. They started to struggle

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: as the game went on. But the first two possessions

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: of that Oakland game, I was just like, oh my god,

1173
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: Collins and Tyrant are just mauling these guys. Which it

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00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: helps when you have that, it does. All Right, we

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00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys. Joannas are back tomorrow. We'll get you

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Speaker 1: guys ready for the game. We'll tell you what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen, give you our predictions. Still in for Nick

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Speaker 1: even Dave Helmett, Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Hips and this has

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