1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ Buck 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: with you Buck. We got a football game. Man had 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: a football game last night? How cool is that? 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: It was really cool. 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: I feel bad for you though, because I was in 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: studio last night. I know I didn't walk out and 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: probably get home closer to ten o'clock my time, which 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: meant you are ain't kin't Ohio and having to take 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: a starter. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 4: I would say I was probably waking up as you 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 4: were walking in. Yeah, yeah, because that's probably about times upright. 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 4: I think I pulled into the house just a little 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 4: bit before six. It's the it's the flight, but then 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 4: it's landing in lax and having drive back down to San. 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: Diego that get you. But like this is where our 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: scouting training comes in that you never think about when 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: you have a drive. You never think about the full distance. 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: You find, You find a place in the middle, put 20 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: in your GPS for that place, stop, get some coffee, 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: you know, and then you get back in your car, 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: put it in a GPS and go home. It's like, 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: you know, they say, like runners when you're out running 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: on the road like you never you never think about, Okay, 25 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 2: I got this much further to get to the next mile. 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: You go out, there's a sign, I see that time 27 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: is gonna get to that sign. And when you get 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: to that sign, then you see the next sign, and 29 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: then you get to that sign. That's that's kind of 30 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: what you're doing when you're travel in the middle of 31 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: the night. 32 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a that's a tough one. I don't view. 33 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: But at least you got a chance to see a 34 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: good game from your vantage point. The Chargers look, I 35 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 1: mean they ever slid, man, theyver saw that from the jump. 36 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: And I know it's funny because the Hall of Fame 37 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: game is the extra game that some teams want, because 38 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to give an extended look to 39 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the young players, the players that are on the fringes 40 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: before you really have to get into the evaluation. And 41 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: because you we've gone down to a three game preseason 42 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: as opposed to a four game that's very, very valuable. 43 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: So I just have to ask you man thoughts initially 44 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: just on the Chargers the game itself. 45 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Well, you know again, I'm always saying, you can't you 46 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: preseason as a liar. You can get in trouble when 47 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: you try and make declarations based off the preseason. We've 48 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, that's everyone knows that if you have any 49 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: and since you know that this has been proven over 50 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: the years. But I will say this. I got actually 51 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: a text from my son, who's you know, growing up 52 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: as a Charger fan, and he said, it's interesting, like 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: a Jim Harbaugh coach team Week one of the preseason, 54 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: they protected the football. There weren't a lot of penalties 55 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: on the Chargers, you know, on the Lions on the 56 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 2: other side of things, a bunch of turnovers, a bunch 57 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: of penalties. It wasn't very clean at all. And it 58 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I think you can take something from that. 59 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: I think you can take that. You know, these guys 60 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: had to get into camp early, and the Chargers, you know, 61 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: look like their team that even with their they've got 62 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: more depth. First of all, that's obvious with the guys 63 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: they rolled out there, especially the defensive line. They've got 64 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: some size and some depth, and rookies played well. Cawndray 65 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: Lambert Smith made some big plays at receiver. He's going 66 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: to be a factor for them. Trey Harris is going 67 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: to be a good player. You saw Marion Hampton, so 68 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: a lot of good young players. But to me, it 69 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: was just that year two of the culture kind of 70 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: setting in of Jim Harbaugh, tough, smart, you know, it 71 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: just kind of looked like a Jim Harbaugh team out there. 72 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: DJ And I know is the preseason and the games 73 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: don't count, but they certainly matter, and they matter in 74 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: terms of as you're looking at your team, do you 75 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: see your team embracing style of play? Are they in 76 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: line with the things that are being talked about and 77 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: discussed frequently in meetings, on the field and even in 78 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: press conferences. When Jim Harvard talks about we want our 79 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: team to play a certain way. Does the team play 80 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: that way when you have an opportunity to see him? 81 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: And for me, it was like going back in the 82 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: wayback machine. For as long as I've been on the 83 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: West Coast and I've seen Jim Harvard teams, I was like, Yeah, 84 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: this is the same team I saw a USD at Stanford, San. 85 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Francisco, Michigan. 86 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: And now with the Chargers, they're gonna run the football, 87 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna have a great complimentary play action package that 88 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: is very easy for the quarterback quarterback friendly offense. Defensively, 89 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: they're not gonna give up big plays. They canna be 90 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: physical and they're gonna make you drive the length of 91 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the field. And when you look at that, regardless of 92 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: whether it's preseason, regular season, postseason, this is a for 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: and a blueprint at least to success. And the way 94 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: that they dominated the Detroit Lion, I don't care what 95 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: anyone says about the preseason. 96 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: No one wants their team to get whipped like that. 97 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the way that the Charges do that, to me, 98 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: this is like and look, you're in it, so you 99 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: know if they took it like with more seriousness than others, 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: but to me. 101 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: They put the ball out there. 102 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: And it was very clear from the jump the Chargers 103 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: were intent on flexing their muscles against the Detroit Lions. 104 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Because it still is a bit of a measuring stick. 105 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, look they're both playing backups. But 106 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: it was interesting from the standpoint. The Chargers had the 107 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: number one scoring defense last year. The Lions, I believe 108 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: in the number one scoring offense last year. I think 109 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: the Chargers red zone defense was tops in the league 110 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: or top three. The Lions were top three in red 111 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: zone offense, like it was strength versus strength, and even 112 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: when you're not playing with your ones, I mean they 113 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: look like, at least in this game, they look like 114 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: a deeper, you know, more the team outside the starters. 115 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: Now there's a play in that game where I see, 116 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: you know, the right tackle for or the Lions pulling 117 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: outside and a little corner from the Charger able to 118 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: make a miss them Like, okay, now I can envision 119 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: that's pena seul. You know, players, the star players make 120 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: a difference when they're not playing in the in these games, 121 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: and the Lions definitely have the star players, as do 122 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: the Chargers. So I don't think there's any like major 123 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: declarations you can make other than I think that Jim 124 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Harbaugh's you know, imprint on this team and the identity 125 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: of this team is there. And I think from the 126 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: Lions again not making too big a deal, but there's 127 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: a lot of coaching changes. Man, they lost a lot, 128 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: and I'm sure if you're a new you know, defensive coordinator, 129 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator, you probably want to get out there 130 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: and have a little bit better showing than that, even 131 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: though it's not your your main. 132 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: Guys, because what it does DJ creates a sense of panic. 133 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: Like no one will say this, but anytime you have 134 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: newness at those leadership positions, those leadership roles, you want 135 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: all the things that we talked about throughout the spring 136 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 1: and summer. We want to see those x's and o's 137 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: come to life. And whether it's Hindon Hooker, Kyle Allen, 138 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: whoever's directing the offense. This is a team in a 139 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: city that has gotten used to the Iowa works that 140 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: proceeded the arrival of John Morton. Man, for them to 141 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: get stymied and really struggled the way that they struggled 142 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: on offense, it puts more pressure on the play caller 143 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: from when they have that preseason game and they made 144 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: play the starters, they better show up because man, the 145 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: rumblings will start quickly if they don't have the same 146 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of flampos asz that they've had the last few years. 147 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: No, see how they get out and get out the 148 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: gate and get started. I think we'll have a big 149 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: impact on what that conversation is. I want to ask 150 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: you this question because one of my favorite guys on 151 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: the Chargers, and I've known him for a long time, 152 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: going back to when he was a prospect. But Tony 153 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: Jefferson is someone who has got a great stories with 154 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: the Ravens and then his careers basically, you know, careers over, 155 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go into scouting. So he scouts for a 156 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: year and then Joe Ortiz's kids with the Charge. He 157 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: decides last year, I'm I'm making another run at it. 158 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: He was kind of helping the Chargers, so he's going 159 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: to come make a run at it. He goes into 160 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: preseason Buck, I mean, it was like it was not 161 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: a lock he was going to make the team. And 162 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: the last preseason game he had, he had one or 163 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: two interceptions, he like forced to fumble. Like he made 164 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: all these plays as a as a vet, like as 165 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: a guy who was several you know, seven whatever, seven 166 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: eight years into the league, but like literally fought his 167 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: way onto the team. So now they've got, you know, again, 168 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: a really good roster. He's he's coming back again. He's 169 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: gonna have to compete to make the team. He goes 170 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: out last night, he sets it a little trap. It 171 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: was like the Ed Reid pick that Belichick talks about, 172 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: where did you see that? We're there? Like too high? 173 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: He floats to the middle, and then just sprints to 174 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: the pylon and as soon as Kyle Allen saw the 175 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: shift like this, he locked in and the ball was 176 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: gone and Tony went and got it. And I was 177 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: sitting there thinking it reminded me, first of all, two things. 178 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: Number One, we're in the going through the Hall of 179 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: Fame before the game. We got there early. The buses 180 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: get their earliest chargers, getting raid, all the players through there. Tony, 181 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Tony's not even in there. He's walking into the room. Well, 182 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: we're going walkin through the exhibits and you see like 183 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: all the like the nineteen twenties and stuff like that, 184 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: and you see, you know, like the leather helmets and 185 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: all that stuff and all the young d He's like, hey, hey, 186 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: hey t Jeff, this is your high school uniforms. Is 187 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: what you're this is what you're using high school. But uh, 188 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: kind of the value, that's what I want to ask you, 189 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: Like the value of having some of these guys who 190 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: aren't just like you know, they don't just have experience 191 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: in the league, but literally still as a vet, fighting 192 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: like crazy to make the team. And what kind of 193 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: example that sets did you know anybody were you with 194 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: anybody like that and then and what is the value there? 195 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, Like I mean, they were always like vests 196 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: that are kind of like trying to extend their career 197 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: and do it. But I'm gonna say this DJ from 198 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: a like my own personal experience, like being a bubble guy, 199 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: like later like year five, year six, and you're in 200 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: there in the Hall of Fame game. Uh, some of 201 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: your buddies are not dressed out, but here you are 202 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: the vet that has to suit it up. To me, 203 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this speaks volumes to the football character 204 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: that Tony Jefferson has because it would be hard for 205 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: some guys to home with themselves enough to treat that 206 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: game like a regular season game when it comes to 207 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: the preparation to focus the intensity and listening to them 208 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: talk to Steve Weisch after the game twelve years into it, 209 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: still talking about yeah, talking about is my job to 210 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: set the example for the young guys and to come 211 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: and play hard and to do all this other stuff 212 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: that you have to do. 213 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: And I remember working him out when he was. 214 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Coming out or whatever, undrafted player to make it the 215 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: way that he's making. I think having those kind of 216 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room and whatever capacity, whether it's 217 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: on the active roster, whether it's on the practice squad, 218 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: what Tony Jefferson can be is an extension of the 219 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff, an extension or what I call the the 220 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: culture standard bearer to make sure that the young guys 221 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: understand what's going on, and the fact that he still 222 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: can make a play every now and then that enables 223 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: him to have the ear of the young players. Because 224 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: it's one thing to have the old man that never 225 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: makes a play barking. It's another thing when you see 226 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: a player that can still play and be like, oh okay. 227 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: So when Tony says, hey man, you need to be 228 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: right here when we line up in discoverage, and. 229 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: Then you see him make a play, the instant credibility, I. 230 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Think it makes him great in whatever capacity they keep him, 231 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna keep him somewhere, DJA around, 232 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna be around, and I think that just validates everything. 233 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: So then when he speaks, he speaks with a little 234 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: more that the guys can can get. 235 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: Look. 236 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: I think it's invaluable, and we've talked about how the 237 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: practice squad can be so valuable. They have these vets 238 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: in now Why wouldn't you populate your practice squad with 239 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: like four or five guys that can kind of be 240 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: extension of the coaching staff. 241 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's Uh. He's impressive guy, and it's easy 242 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 2: to root for him. A guy who just fought for 243 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: everything that he's got and doesn' wouldn't handle anything. 244 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 245 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of guys like that 246 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: out there. I got a lot of respect for that 247 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: group of players real quick, Buck, just having a chance 248 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: to talk to you about it. I saw it live 249 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: in person. I thought Trey Lance looked good man. And 250 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: I think, to me, like Jim Harball, one of the 251 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: superpowers of Jim Harbaugh is the he instilled confidence and belief. 252 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: And I think more. You know, we said Trey Lance 253 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: needs to play. He hasn't played a lot. Yes, he 254 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: needs to get experience. He needs to play, and he'll 255 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: get a chance to do that here in the preseason. 256 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: But Buck, I. 257 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: Also think he needs to have somebody remind him. I mean, 258 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: you're good, like you're good, you can play. 259 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: I think the best thing that Jim Harbaugh does whenever 260 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: he takes on these reclamation projects is he makes them 261 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: feel like they were They felt when they were at 262 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: their best at whatever level college, early in the pros 263 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. I saw him do the same thing that 264 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: he always does, the pads and boom, and there was 265 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: a one. There was a joy that Trey Lance played 266 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: with that I hadn't seen since North Dakota State days. 267 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: There was a smile, there was an ease of nature 268 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: that I love. Secondly, man, people say a lot about 269 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh and the way they run 270 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: their offense or whatever, but I know this, they made 271 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: it very easy for Trey Lance to have instant success 272 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: right away. 273 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: Bootlegs early, half rolls late. 274 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, how many times in life can we see 275 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: them score a touchdown on this play? 276 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: Like tail back in the flat, tied into the corner. Bang. 277 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: But that that throw that throws much harder than people. 278 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get a credit because Will Drizzley had to 279 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: catch that over somebody and Trey Lance didn't blow the 280 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: layup DJ. I saw what we always talk about, winn 281 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: it's a scout. When someone a quarterback has been drafted early, man, 282 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: they get every opportunity to exhaust that option on whether 283 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: they can play. And the guy that I saw last 284 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: night is well worth taking the time to see if 285 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: you can squeeze a little bit out of Trey Lance 286 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: to maybe get a player that can be a very 287 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: valuable backup for a long time, or someone who can 288 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: jump in in a pinch and do it. And then 289 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: when they told this last night, they said, Trey Lance 290 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: is younger than Michael Pennox and some of. 291 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: The other it's that crazy man. 292 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: But he talked about how quickly sometimes people give up 293 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: on others, and You're like, hey, man, he hasn't even played. 294 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: He's a baby, a baby, he's a baby. 295 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 296 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: No, it's a great job DJ. He looks so comfortable 297 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And I was just like, man, 298 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: it's just a byproduct of them run heavy system, but 299 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: the complimentary game that goes with his quarterback friend. 300 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 2: I also, I'm telling you that we did see a 301 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: lot of him, but I know it was three colleges. 302 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: I know he never lived up to the expectations. But 303 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Buck, when you go down there on 304 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: the field and watch Dju warm up and throw, I 305 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: saw him as you did in high school. I saw 306 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: him as a sophomore in high school, and I was 307 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: physically imposing a high school quarterback as I've ever seen. 308 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: There's still talent in there. I know three colleges can 309 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: tell you it hasn't worked out the way that we 310 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: thought it would, and we bought into it. You know, 311 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: don't buy into it. I'm sitting here telling you you can't. 312 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: He's going to get opportunities. Man, you can't quit on 313 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: that talent. There's talent in there. 314 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: So here's the advantage that I think Jim Harbor has 315 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: over some guys because he spent so much time in college. 316 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: He's unafraid of developmental process, his patience, particularly when it 317 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: comes to quarterback. He has a longer wick than some 318 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: guys have when it comes to that developmental candle. Hey, 319 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: we'll take a time, we'll process or whatever, and then 320 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: when you start looking. I think Jim Harbor has a type. 321 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: I think he likes the big, strong, athletic type. I 322 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: believe that he sees himself in some of those guys 323 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: and he feels like, oh, I got a recipe in 324 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: a blueprint that works, and look at you go back 325 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: in Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick and the guys that 326 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: he has dealt with, he understands how to maximize that position. Yeah, 327 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to see dj you make his 328 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: way under practice squad, spend a lot of time working 329 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: on the mechanics, building up his confidence to give himself 330 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: a shot to make the roster next year. I just 331 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: think the charges in Harbor have that he has a 332 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: clear vision for what he wants at a position, and 333 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: he's undeterred by whatever happened before you got to us. 334 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah we'll figure that out. Yeah, no, no doubt. I 335 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: think he's got a chance there. Nico Reid undrafted corner 336 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: at Oregon at a pick and it's made plays all 337 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: throughout training camp. I talked about Lambert Smith's done a 338 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: nice job. But some good there's some good stories. There 339 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: are some good young players. And for those asking, hey 340 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: what about the Lions, the Lions didn't play good, I 341 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: would love to sit here and tell you, you know, I know, 342 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: and talking to people down there on the field before 343 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: the game. In the organization, there is a lot of 344 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: excitement about Aiden Hutchinson and they think he's going to 345 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: light the world on fire. So that's, uh, that's some 346 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: positive news there. And I know I talked to Brad 347 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: Holmes for a minute down there. He likes the young receivers. 348 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Tesla's is one of those guys. 349 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: He had a nice game. 350 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: He had a nice game early like he got, he got, 351 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: he got in the mix, saw make some nice catches 352 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: and those things. But you know, the quarterback play one 353 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: wasn't great. And then they didn't have many opportunities. They 354 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: didn't really throw it a lot, so you didn't really 355 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: get a chance to see what they could do. 356 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: The final thing about the Charges thumbs up on the 357 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: blue bridges, I'm okay. 358 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: Those are sweet, aren't they sweet? Man? 359 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: Blue bridges, white white, Jersey white, Hilme. 360 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: I like that combo, man, I like that. 361 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: Not a big fan of the yellow, but right now 362 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: the combo did us all last night. 363 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the yellow and yellow. I was gonna take some 364 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: getting used to. But the the the navies, the throwback 365 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: navies that they busted, that they busted out over the summer. 366 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: Those are sweet. And then that his pants, Man, those 367 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: those powder blue pants are pretty. 368 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: Because that's new. They've never done powder blue pants. 369 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Those pants are okay. 370 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: I want to make sure because I was like, man, 371 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: that's a nice combination. 372 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very nice. They look the Chargers social media 373 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: and uniforms. They've checked those boxes every year, man, and 374 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: I just got to get the team to finish it 375 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: off here in the postseason. But Buck, let's take a break, 376 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: and there's a couple of contract situations we need to 377 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: get to. We'll do that right for this, all right, 378 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: it's time for Hot or Not, brought to you by 379 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: with Sabby Hot Cloud Storage Hot Buck. The temperatures hot 380 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: in most of the country. And uh, Man, I think 381 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: contract negotiations are lacked thereof a little hot. With Terry 382 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: McLaurin and with Micah Parsons. 383 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so weird, both of these situations. I think 384 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: let's talk about Micah first because the name is so big. 385 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: The Mica situation is so weird to me. Uh, he 386 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: is playing, is point set to play on the fifth 387 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: year of his other fifth option. 388 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: It'll be like twenty twenty four million dollars. 389 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: Obviously, you look at the pass rusher market, it is 390 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: now escalated to as forty million dollars. Michael Parsons has 391 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: fifty two and a half sacks in sixty three games. 392 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: He is a guy who is a big play machine. 393 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: He makes plays all over the field and without questioning, 394 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: he is their best defensive player, maybe their best player 395 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: on the team. 396 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: Don't really understand why this. 397 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: Has been such a long drawn out, contentious negotiation, but 398 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: here we are, and I just feel like for the Cowboys, 399 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: like I know that this is the way they do business, 400 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: but it just doesn't make you feel good. 401 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: I would think as a player that you have. 402 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: To haggle, like guys are having to haggle to get 403 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: their money from the Cowboys. And maybe it's a situation 404 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are like, hey man, we're gonna put 405 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: them on the franchise tax situation. 406 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: But it's just a weird. 407 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: It's just a weird deal to be going through this 408 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: in training camp when you need him to be ready 409 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: to play if they're going to have any any chance 410 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: of competing closing the gap on Leagles. 411 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 2: So I was talking to an agent about this thing, 412 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: and he brought up an interesting point, which is, you 413 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: know these players, they all talk. It's a very close 414 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: knit community, and like there's He was using an example 415 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: of how he like the Eagles players that walk through 416 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: those holes. You know, they they they will die for 417 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Howie Roseman. They love him, I mean, how he takes 418 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: care of them. They pay him early in most cases, 419 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: but they always take care of them, and hey, you're 420 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: a little bit beat up during the season, I'm gonna 421 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: go ahead and fight through it. I mean, I'm fighting 422 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: from my team, for my brothers, for the organization. Like 423 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: there's just a belief and a gratitude that seeps in 424 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: there when when they're taken care of and other people 425 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: will say no, no, it's your job, is negotiator, to get 426 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: him for the cheapest humanly possible so we can maximize 427 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: the roster. I just I know obviously is the agent. 428 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: So they're gonna they're gonna believe the opposite of that. 429 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: But I think I agree with them. I think there 430 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: is something to the fact of like, hey, I'm not 431 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: saying it's for I'm not gonna get held hostage by 432 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, just a run of the 433 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: mill average starter. But when you've got your three, we 434 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: need a five elite players on just about every roster. 435 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: Like those guys, I'm okay over paying a little bit. 436 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: First of all, the market's gonna run away anyways. In 437 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: a year from now, it's not even gonna look like 438 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 2: an overpay. And in the meantime, you've got a happy 439 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: camper on your hands. 440 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't understand why you wouldn't want to play, 441 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: to be happy and ready to go. We talked about 442 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: this being a team sport relationships and if the relationship 443 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: deteriorates between the player and management and even the coach Steff, 444 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: it just makes it hard that. 445 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 3: He's going to give you everything. 446 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: And as you talked about the Eagles and some of 447 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: the other teams that are really on the forefront, they 448 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: would rather pay them early than late. The buy back 449 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: that they get from the players, the buy in in 450 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: terms of like, hey man, I'll do anything for ant 451 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: team because my team stands ten toes down for me. 452 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: You don't get that from the cowboy. 453 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Then I know the brand is the brand, and I 454 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: know in business some people feel like they always need 455 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: to make a deal, but this is a relationship business, 456 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: and when we have hurt feelings or whatever, like you 457 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: can throw money at it, but it doesn't change the feeling. 458 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: People remember how you you made them feel, more so 459 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: than how much you pay them. And for Michael Parsons 460 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: to go through this for someone who we know Michael 461 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: to be a guy that wears his emotions. 462 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: On his sleeve, DJ. 463 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I feel like this long extended thing has done more 464 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: harmed and good when it comes to their relationship. 465 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it always feels like the cowboys. They end 466 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: up doing it, and usually they end up kind of 467 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: doing the deal that the player likes and wants and 468 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 2: they cross that bridge. But it's like they make it exhausting, 469 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's like, come on, man, just get it done. 470 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't. 471 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: I don't get that one. How about what Terry? You know, 472 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: it's funny. I talked to Ap the other day and Uh, 473 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: I was just somehow I was thinking about it. You know, 474 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking about it because he's a San Francisco 475 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: Giants baseball fan and their teams team stinks, and so 476 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: I was falling to bust his chops on them being 477 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: a seller. As my Podraser search, we had a great 478 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: terry deadline, by the way, as we always do. 479 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: But you don't have a minor league system anymore. 480 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: You don't have them every year every year. You guys, 481 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: you know what we're gonna do next year. We're gonna 482 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: trade ten more of them next year, go. 483 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: Get more all gone. 484 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: That's all he does is scout and replanning the system. 485 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: He's a machine. He done, and he does it every year. 486 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: I mean, like I go back, Blake's noow, Joe Musgrove, 487 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, Juan Soto, Like he trades for these star 488 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: players every year. You know how many prospects. No, he'll 489 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: go find more. He goes just Rea shuffle him. But anyways, 490 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: I call Ap to bus his chops on that. And 491 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: then I was just curious. I was thinking about Jane Daniels, 492 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: so we talked about it. I didn't even think to 493 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: ask him about Terry McLaurin. I didn't talk about it. 494 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: But on the side, note, if you want some positive news, 495 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: if you're a Washington Commanders fan, is this is kind 496 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: of gotten murky here. He was telling me like, I'm like, 497 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: how does Jane Daniels get better? And he's like, I'm 498 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: telling you, dude, he's like, everything's faster. He's seeing things 499 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: even faster. He said. Leadership wise, it's gone up. Like 500 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: he's taking it up a notch on that front, Like 501 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: he's talking more, he's more vocal, And that's a scary thought. Now, 502 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: hopefully McLaurin thing works itself out. If the offensive line 503 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: is better. He's excited about the corners They've got some 504 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: good young corners on their roster, so they've got a team. 505 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: It's in the stinking championship game last year. So if 506 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: Jade Daniels takes that next step, and we'll see what 507 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: happens with the Terry thing, hopefully that thing gets worked out. 508 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of like we talk about the 509 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 2: fun teams. You know, who are the teams to pay 510 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: attention to and be fun. That's a fun team, man, you. 511 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: Know, DJ I'm writing this thing that will come out 512 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: later today is the three teams that are challenged the 513 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and I have to watch the Commanders right there. 514 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: I feel like they not only are a better team 515 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: than they were last year. You think about the upgrades Deebo, 516 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: Samuel lamrytonso coming in. You talked about the draftis and 517 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: what they brought in, but you got Jayden Daniels who's 518 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: entering year two. And I know some people will make 519 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: that sophomore slump, but man, I just think this dude 520 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: is an absolute superstar and I only see him getting better. 521 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: And there's something about the Commanders and the Eagles where 522 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: the Commanders are unafraid of the Eagles and know when 523 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: your division rivals, like you have that sense like we 524 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: know them, they know us. But to me, there's a 525 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: confidence that the commanders have when it comes to dealing 526 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: with the Eagles that's gonna make them a tough out 527 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: for the eg is when they have to square off 528 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: a couple of times this year to settle who is 529 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: going to be the team to beat in the NFCS. 530 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: So helped me out on the McLaurin thing, because again, 531 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: really i've been on the move. 532 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't. 533 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: I don't know as much about that one to talk 534 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: about it. 535 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean I can't. I can't understand it, but I 536 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: do understand the. 537 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: Ru Does he want crazy? Does he want like way 538 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: above market? 539 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Like what is what is the well, well, I don't 540 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: know what what the issue would be, but I know 541 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: he's over thirty, okay, And so when we look at 542 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: the market, the way the market is kind of split. 543 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: So DK metcalf top of the market. 544 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: He signed his deal whatever it was, like I think 545 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: he put him at thirty something, but he was twenty 546 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: eight years old. 547 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 3: Then you look at the over thirty. 548 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: Guys that signed, Devonte Adams and Mike Evans, they basically 549 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: signed two year deals that put them right between twenty 550 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: two and twenty four million. 551 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 552 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: Well, if you're mclauren and your numbers are better than DK, 553 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: and you and DK in the same class, and even 554 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: though on paper he's twenty eight year thirty, you're saying, well, 555 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: why can't I get Why can't I get that deal? 556 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Why do I get to get the old man deal? 557 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: So it's just that part of it. And I am 558 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: not one that always leans towards the player, but I 559 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: think this when it comes to the franchise, when you 560 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: have a guy that is a face of the franchise type, 561 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: someone who exhibits all the qualities that you talk about. Hey, 562 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: young guys, y'all need to look at Terry because he 563 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: does it. 564 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: The right way, on time, work ethic, plays, didn't matter 565 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: what they had at quarterback, he shows up, shows out. 566 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: The numbers speak for themselves. You just tended, like man, 567 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: just overpay. 568 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: Overpay to keep your guy just because he's been such 569 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: a good. 570 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: Player for you and he will continue to be a 571 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 3: good player. So I don't know. 572 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: The challenge to me, just listen to it and factor 573 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: in the age. Look, we're all bolden to our experiences 574 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: that's gonna shape and form our opinions. I saw Keenan Allen, 575 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, got older pretty quick. I saw Mike Williams 576 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: unfortunately had to retire as you know, work out there. 577 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: You know Tyler Lockett who was playing at a very 578 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: high level. Now we'll see where he is in his 579 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: his career. Like there's been a decent number of examples 580 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: of guys. I mean, Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup was at 581 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: the I mean, I know he got a little bit 582 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: of money here in DNA's you know what I mean. 583 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't know that you want to go extend yourself 584 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: too far on that age. 585 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: So so the funny thing, so Mike Evans and Davante 586 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: Adams signed two year. 587 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: Deals at over thirty. 588 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what DK. 589 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I think DK signed maybe a five year deal, but 590 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: that might have been the way they stretch out the 591 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: money out of the. 592 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: Stretch out the money. 593 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just a matter of how do you 594 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: want to do it, how do you want to get 595 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: out of there? How do you want to pay him? 596 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: But at some point you have to pay him. But 597 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: I do understand it. You want to be fiscally responsible 598 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: and his Deebo, Samuel Factor, Debo is in the last 599 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: year of his deal. You're gonna have to deal with that. 600 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Are you going to have too high priced white house? 601 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Like what is the structure of the team. But they 602 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: just needn't make sure that the locker room is okay 603 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: with Terry because if you bring in I mean, he's 604 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: on the team now, but if you bring in an 605 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: outside of for instance, like in Debo, and you pay 606 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: him and you don't pay the other guy, it just 607 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: makes people in the locker room just look a little 608 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: sideways upstairs. So this is a big one for AP. 609 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll get it figured out. But you just 610 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: want to make sure a band that chemistry is. 611 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: So And that's for me. The key part of that 612 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: is maybe not so much the age, is just his 613 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: standing within the locker room, Like he is that guy, 614 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: so you know you'd like to have him happy. Same 615 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: thing we just said. You know, ideally you're okay with 616 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: overpaying a little bit on some of these things because 617 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: of the person and standing within the locker room. That 618 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: was this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to you 619 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: by with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage, store more and do 620 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: more with your data. Try them for free at wassabi 621 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: dot com. Buck, I'm tired. I'm be honest with you 622 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: at anything else you want to Uh, you want to 623 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: toss in here before I go take a nap. 624 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: No, I think you need to take a nap like that. 625 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: That is that is tough. 626 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: I give you credit for showing up, but I know 627 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: that you've been positively impacted in influence by your time 628 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: with Jem Harbor. 629 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: I would I would anticipate you. 630 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: Being in the front yard later h walking backwards with 631 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: the slid on your back, just kind of like trying 632 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: to make sure we're moving, trying to. 633 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: Keep clods, a lot of chances, poles, rope poles, you know, 634 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: tire flips, trying. 635 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: To make sure we're trying to make sure we're getting 636 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 3: it done. 637 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with I. I had a day where 638 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: we didn't have anything, no no work, no responsibilities, there's 639 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: nothing going on family wise. So I went to play golf, 640 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: and uh, I've tried to play, like in the summer 641 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: once a week and stuff. But we went in. Of course, 642 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: we go to as twenty seven holes and you kind 643 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: of figure out which two nines you're playing. The guy 644 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: was like, look, we're wide open the day. You guys 645 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 2: want to play all twenty seven, you're good to go. 646 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: First time in my life i've played twenty seven holes 647 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: of golf. Buck, I don't know how these. 648 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: Guys do it. 649 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't know how these guys do it. I mean 650 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: we were moving because there were no there's nobody on, 651 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: so we were just kind of moving around. But man, 652 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: like my back I was like, oh my gosh. 653 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: You talk about your backup. I'm thinking about your ability 654 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: to focus. 655 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: That's a long day, you know what, you know, what 656 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: turns out, turns out I'm not a good eighteen hole golfer. 657 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: The last nine is where I that's where I shine. 658 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: I think that's when I'm a fatigued and then when 659 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: I just have too tired to have swing thoughts, like 660 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: when you're too when you're too tired, and just like 661 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: screw it, I'm just gonna I'm not gonna. I'm just 662 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: gonna stop thinking I'm a line up over the ball 663 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: and hit it. So the first eighteen of the last 664 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: nine was much better than my first eighteen. So I 665 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: think that's what I gotta do. I gotta go to 666 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: the golf course play nine before the golf round, when 667 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: nobody knows that you're even there, get out there, play nine, 668 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: and then just meet up with your group and go, okay, 669 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: let's go play now. I might I might need a 670 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: chiropractor after that, but uh yeah, I don't have. Gosh, 671 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: it is a I never thought. I never thought of 672 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: golf as like a demanding sport. But now when you 673 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: watch these tournaments and your if you're walking the course 674 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: and you're playing four days in a row like that 675 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: is that's not nothing like. 676 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: That's uh, you gotta be you gotta be on it. 677 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to one. I do believe, like 678 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: and Tiger did a lot to change it. I do 679 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: believe fitness is a big part of it because being 680 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: able to lock in, being able to as you talk 681 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: about where you're back and the where the stuff feels. 682 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: Your postures. 683 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get the day four, talk about moving 684 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: like that Sunday. To be able to finish it off, 685 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: you need to be able to last. 686 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: Our work it out last. That's what we're talking about. There. 687 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: You go, all right, I'm gonna go get an app. 688 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys hanging with us. We'll see you 689 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: next time. Right here, I'm moving the sticks