WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Bag of Tricks?

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, November fifth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode

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<v Speaker 1>number fifty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be joined here momentarily by Bucky Brooks. Real quick though,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into our show and talk to Bucky

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, let's welcome to the show, Bucky Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>from NFL Network. Let's talk a little Cowboys versus Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>The day, we're going to focus in on the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>offense versus the Steelers defense and what a good defense

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Bucky, the first question I have for you

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<v Speaker 1>is when you look at these two teams. There's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that there's OBUs obviously a really huge talent gap between

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys offensive front and the Steelers defensive front. That

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<v Speaker 1>being said, and I'm thinking more big picture, what you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in your experience as a player, as a scout

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<v Speaker 1>and now as an analyst. What can teams do when

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<v Speaker 1>you have that big of a talent gap between the two?

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<v Speaker 1>What can teams do offensively to maybe lessen that or

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<v Speaker 1>give you just a little bit more opportunity to at

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<v Speaker 1>least do something and not just get completely embarrassed. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a couple of different things, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this has to be a collective effort, meaning Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Nolan, Mike McCarthy, John fall Stay all have to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the same page in terms of how this

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<v Speaker 1>game is played out. If you want to protect your offense,

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<v Speaker 1>the best way you can protect the offense is to

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<v Speaker 1>really slow this game down. And I know early in

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<v Speaker 1>the year when Dallas was playing, they're playing really really fast,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get plays off. They're averaging two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half plays every minute. You don't want to play this

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<v Speaker 1>fast against this Pittsburgh Steiler's team because if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>having success, you don't want to give them opportunities. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a game where you almost operate at

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<v Speaker 1>a turtle tempo. Take the play clock down to about

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<v Speaker 1>five seconds, really drained the clock, and see if you

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<v Speaker 1>can make this game where you have anywhere from ten

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve total possessions. So not because of your talent,

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<v Speaker 1>but because of the way that you play, you may

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<v Speaker 1>be able to keep the game tight, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can put pressure on the stealers to go make a

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<v Speaker 1>play because you put yourself in a position to be

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<v Speaker 1>there in the fourth quarter just by the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you've conducted yourself in terms of operating at a very

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<v Speaker 1>deliberate and slow tempo. Bucky, yesterday, they've brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of the wildcat information, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting and I wanted you to talk a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't about that. We know what the pros can be

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<v Speaker 1>for that kind of formation, but what would be some

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<v Speaker 1>of the cons for the Cowboys if they were to

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<v Speaker 1>play those that formation against the Steelers defense? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the pros obviously you get the additional blocker. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at offensive football, most teams don't count

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, and so the defense always has a plus

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<v Speaker 1>one advantage when it comes to matching me up against

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<v Speaker 1>the run game. Well, now you remove the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>put a viable running threat. Now even the numbers, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now you have advantages when it comes to being

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<v Speaker 1>able to run the ball inside and out because you've

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<v Speaker 1>gained an additional blocker. The cons are, if you're guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was running the wildcat doesn't have the ability to throw,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point you're able to squeeze and collapse the

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<v Speaker 1>box because you know that they can't throw. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this, and to bring up Texas Lore years ago

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<v Speaker 1>when our brows was at Baylor, I watched him run

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<v Speaker 1>for maybe four hundred yards against Texas without a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>All their quarterbacks that got knocked out. The following bowl

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<v Speaker 1>game they played North Carolina, they ran for seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards and they didn't have a quarterback. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League we have seen teams like the Miami Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the Carolina Panthers employed this strategy successfully. So

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<v Speaker 1>it can be done. Is just that, are you bold

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<v Speaker 1>enough to try and employed the strategy when everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>going to say it's an out of the box way.

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<v Speaker 1>To play a football game, Bucky. I'm probably gonna steal

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<v Speaker 1>this question from Dave, so I'm glad I'm going first, Tara,

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<v Speaker 1>when you were looking at the draft, did you was

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<v Speaker 1>t J Watt? Was he someone that had to play

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<v Speaker 1>in the three fourth scheme or is he good enough

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<v Speaker 1>where he could have played in any scheme? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the three four scheme is probably best for him,

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<v Speaker 1>just in terms of the way they mix him with

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<v Speaker 1>hand down, standing up pressuring, but it's awsome man takes

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<v Speaker 1>three four four three. What you asked to edge rush

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<v Speaker 1>to do in most of these defense is the same.

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<v Speaker 1>From a side standpoint, he wasn't your traditional base in

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like how big he was, and so

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon how you deployed the defensive end, he might

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<v Speaker 1>not have been a great fit. But he was a

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<v Speaker 1>really good player. And even though he was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a one year player for Wisconsin, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the production, you can see the traits. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anyone thought that he would bloss him and

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<v Speaker 1>emerge to being the player that he's been in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say he was a really good player,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think his game has been elevated by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's playing in a scheme that puts him

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<v Speaker 1>in a position to really make a lot of plays

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<v Speaker 1>because they blitz at an alarming rate. I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring up t J. Watt because it's depressing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've covered We've covered that situation pretty thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually so t J. Watt gets all the

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<v Speaker 1>headlines and understandably so. But me being the guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>advocating for just running the ball as much as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe Cam Hayward and Tyson ah Lulu

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<v Speaker 1>don't get enough credit for how good they are at

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<v Speaker 1>run defense, and I'm curious if Tyler Beadish and Connor

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<v Speaker 1>Williams are up to that task. I mean, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nasty front that you're going against if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be trying to run the ball. Yeah, first things first,

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<v Speaker 1>before we can even talk about the personnel that the

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<v Speaker 1>Stealers have, whenever you play the Pittsburgh Stellers, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have the right mindset. It is the most physical

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<v Speaker 1>game that the Dallas Cowboys will be in, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to know that when you play Pittsburgh like that

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<v Speaker 1>is their calling card, that is the first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to test you with their overall physicality and aggressiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Tyler Baddish and all those guys up front,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to really be able to weather the physicality

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<v Speaker 1>and toughness from a personnel standpoint, You're right. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the inside, Stefan tour Cam Heyward, those guys put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure because they can troll on a scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is a team that blings more blisses

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<v Speaker 1>and pressure than any other team in the league, well

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<v Speaker 1>second most, forty two point five percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in at least five man pressures. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the press is not necessarily designed for the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>It is designed to blow up the running game, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you get a lot of movement, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>bodies around the box, and so you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to sort out who's coming where in your gafts

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<v Speaker 1>while also dealing with the physicality. So they make it very,

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<v Speaker 1>very challenging for you to be able to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike Tomlin has already served notice Ezekiel Elliott is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that they're focusing on. They're making a concerted

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<v Speaker 1>effort to make sure that Ezekiel Elliott doesn't run the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this is going to be a test of

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<v Speaker 1>wheels who can impose their will on the other team.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we'll see if the Cowboys office line is

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<v Speaker 1>up to the challenge. Derek, I just wanted to add

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<v Speaker 1>a point. I remember right when the schedule came out,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a coach and I said, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the schedule? And the first thing he

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<v Speaker 1>said was is I like the fact we have a

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<v Speaker 1>buye after the Steelers because they're always very physical. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing the guy said, not like three in

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<v Speaker 1>a row or anything to start the year or December.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the bye week comes after playing Pittsburgh. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was interesting. Yeah, and that's actually an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting I'll follow up on that a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this, I mean for people like like

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<v Speaker 1>me and Nick and Bucky like that have been that

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<v Speaker 1>are a little older, We've been watching the Steelers like

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<v Speaker 1>for generations, and it seems like their their defensive prowess

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<v Speaker 1>and who they are defensively has not changed. And they've

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<v Speaker 1>always been a tough team. They've always been a physical team.

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<v Speaker 1>Or city wouldn't accept them if they weren't well. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the question I have for you, Bucky, is

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<v Speaker 1>how is it that because I would assume all teams

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to get to that level of greatness, but

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to be consistent with that even with

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<v Speaker 1>changing of coaches, which they're again, they're not a franchise

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<v Speaker 1>of changes coaches a lot, But even with the change

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<v Speaker 1>of coaches and skiing, how is it that they're able

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<v Speaker 1>to be as dominant defensively if they've as they've been

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<v Speaker 1>for generations? You know there. I'm a big believer that

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<v Speaker 1>your team almost has to reflect your city in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the style of play, and the way that jarr

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh is a blue collar, a hard scrabbled uh city,

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<v Speaker 1>and the team has to reflect defensively. Defensively is how

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<v Speaker 1>they claimed those four Super Bowls during the Chuck no era,

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<v Speaker 1>and so anybody that comes after that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>embrace that style. Now, I will say this as recent

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<v Speaker 1>as three or four years ago, when they were governed

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<v Speaker 1>by the Killer Bees, when it was Big Ben Levan

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and Antonio Brown, it was all about their offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Their defense dipped and they didn't have any significant wins

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mike Tomlin went back to the recipe in

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<v Speaker 1>the formula that's been successful for them. It's about their defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at this team that walks into

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium, their defense has all the stars Stefantoit, Cam Hayward,

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<v Speaker 1>t J. Watt, but Dupree, when Bush was there, Mica Fitzpatrick.

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<v Speaker 1>Their best players are on defense. And it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>coincidence that since they've turned it back over into being

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive team, which started with the draft two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>they have now begun to play like we remember that

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<v Speaker 1>Stiller is playing in yesteryear and so everyone is on board.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way they're calling the offensive game. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the offense yesterday about big Ben in the quick

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<v Speaker 1>Deacon duck where big Ben has no choice. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about the offense, about the defense, and they play it

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<v Speaker 1>as such, and so it's a more conservative approach. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though there's going a bunch of points. Their defense is

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<v Speaker 1>what really cares to water for this team, Bucky. When

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Cowboys offense, and we know about

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke popping up with a hamstring injury, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into that later and done the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you talk about that and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback and the old line and all the struggles

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<v Speaker 1>that they currently have in the offense, who would be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy or that could possibly bring some light to

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<v Speaker 1>the offense and have potentially a good game for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys When you look at matchups specifically against this defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy that has to have a big

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<v Speaker 1>game is Tony Pollard and I think he has finally

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<v Speaker 1>settled into the role that they have him. I think

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<v Speaker 1>early in the year like for whatever reason, it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of disjointed, he was fumbling on kickoffs, really couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>settle land, and I think they found a way for

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<v Speaker 1>him to get going, and I think hopefully as part

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<v Speaker 1>of a bigger strategy, I think the magic number for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys each and every week should be thirty five,

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<v Speaker 1>And thirty five means the number of rushing attempts that

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<v Speaker 1>they have, not about the rushing yards, but when you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing with a hodgepodge of quarterbacks, you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to somehow find a way to control the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that you can control the game is with

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<v Speaker 1>the running attack, because then it makes it easier for

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback to play against favorable looks. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>can the offensive line generate a push against what is

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<v Speaker 1>really a formidable frontline from the Pittsburgh Steelers. That is

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<v Speaker 1>where the game will be one. If they can create

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of movement up front, it gives them a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And coming off a game, even though we've built the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers up to be like the best defense ever, the

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens had success running the ball. Is there something

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<v Speaker 1>in that tape that the Cowboys can steal to utilize

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<v Speaker 1>against the Pittsburgh Steelers to find a way to control

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<v Speaker 1>the game. That is what I'm curious. I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see if Kelly Moore can still a nugget or two

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<v Speaker 1>from Baltimore's approach and implement it to see if the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys can have some success on the ground. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Kellen Moore because in your weekly article of

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<v Speaker 1>five Bucks, which if you haven't listen, if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>read that, you need to every week because I'm telling you, Bucky,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem conservative when you sometimes in quiet, mild manner,

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<v Speaker 1>but you bring the heat in these articles and your

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<v Speaker 1>first one says Kellen Moore needs a lesson in complementary football.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain on that, even though you did in

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<v Speaker 1>the article, explain on that little bit. Okay, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>firm believer that the Cowboys should have more wins than

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<v Speaker 1>this ship if they just managed the game correctly. In

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<v Speaker 1>terms of just from a play calling standpoint, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is easy for offense for easy for offensive coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of operate in a solo by themselves. Meaning

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<v Speaker 1>I am just calling plays because I want to ring

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<v Speaker 1>up these stats and i want to see if I

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<v Speaker 1>can score points, and I'm not worried about what the

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<v Speaker 1>defense is doing. I'm not worried about how the kicking

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<v Speaker 1>game is going. But great teams, everything is always working

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<v Speaker 1>in unison, and the head coach's job is to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he is telling the offensive order, Hey we

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<v Speaker 1>need to sprinkle in some more runs. Hey we have

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<v Speaker 1>them undercontrolled on defense, So you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>as aggressive on offense because we have this game undercontrolled

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<v Speaker 1>defensively and the other team will give us a short

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<v Speaker 1>field if we continue to do what we're doing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think for Kellen Moore, he is young as a

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<v Speaker 1>play caller. He has to understand how to take all

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<v Speaker 1>of that in and to make his play calls fit

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<v Speaker 1>the style that the game is going. And so hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy has pulled aside because we've heard him kind

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<v Speaker 1>of touch on it, like, Hey, this is the style

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<v Speaker 1>of the play that we want. But I need Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy to put a bigger imprint on this because he

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<v Speaker 1>was known as a dynamic play caller. I'm wondering how

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<v Speaker 1>long Kenney continue to go with Kellen Moore kind of

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<v Speaker 1>running on his own and them not calling the game

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with the way the rest of the team

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<v Speaker 1>is playing, which kind of going off that. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you got you gotta find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>manufacture big plays in a situation like this, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean last week they they tried, they tried the trick plays,

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<v Speaker 1>the reverses, the wide receiver throws, anything they could to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And I assume, you know, Pittsburgh, I would guess,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to put nine or ten guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>box and commit to stopping the run. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>manufacture plays that'll back them off in this instance? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is it as easy as saying, just chunk some deep

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<v Speaker 1>shots down the field. We didn't really see that A

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<v Speaker 1>ton last week, the Nucci didn't have the accuracy to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Do you stick with trying the trick stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're going to need to back the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>out of the box, and how do you do it

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<v Speaker 1>with a fourth quarterback? Hey, you can't play a trick

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<v Speaker 1>the football against Pittsburgh Steelers. So that's that's not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>We all over that you've exhausted your trick plays last week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to be effective this week. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the advantages that the Cowboys have are on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite me talking about the pressure and all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that the Pittsburgh Steels due in terms of knock into

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback around, they can be had on the outside by

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys Wibers. The trick will be can the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>manufacture some play action max protection shots where they're able

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<v Speaker 1>to get one on one with a Maori Cooper or

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Galloper or Ceedee Lamb down the field against this

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<v Speaker 1>secondary Because we don't talk about Joe Hayden and those

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<v Speaker 1>other guys being premier cover corners. What we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>is the pressure forcing the ball to come out and

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<v Speaker 1>that is how they generate their turnovers. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that even though you're playing with three wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>hold the running back in, hold the tight in, and

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<v Speaker 1>run some three man routes and take a handful of shots.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say you need four or five shots this

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<v Speaker 1>game to be able to score points when you take them.

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<v Speaker 1>They come at various times, but you have to dial

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<v Speaker 1>up some big play shots. But I think max protection

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<v Speaker 1>must come with those so you can be successful. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky man, we appreciate you joining us real quick before

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<v Speaker 1>we let you go, give us an idea of what

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<v Speaker 1>you think is going to happen this weekend and your

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<v Speaker 1>final score. I mean, this is a tough one, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. It's optimistic as I want to be about

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys offense. Playing a rookie quarterback or a young

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback against Distiller's front is tough. And so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say the game tips in the Steller's favor unless the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys can avoid the turnovers and they can control the

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<v Speaker 1>game by slowing the game down. If they don't opt

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<v Speaker 1>to slow the game down, they don't have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>of knocking off the stealers. They cannot get in the

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<v Speaker 1>track me, they can't play tote to toe with them,

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<v Speaker 1>they will get knocked out. Appreciate it, Bucky. We will

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<v Speaker 1>get back with you. Actually, we won't be back with

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<v Speaker 1>you next week. We'll be back with you the week

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<v Speaker 1>after next week's bye week, so we won't have an opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll be back with you the week after that

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<v Speaker 1>to start getting ready for that game. We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>our first break when we come back, We're gonna dive

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<v Speaker 1>a little deeper into this Cowboys offense. Ask some questions

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<v Speaker 1>for these guys on this matchup. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk a little bit of Cowboys offense versus

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh's defense. I did want to make another announcement. Next week,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do something a little fun with the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been kind of tinkering around. I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>we've done this before. But next Tuesday, and Wednesday. We're

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<v Speaker 1>they will be at their normal times with their normal host.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be the only thing that's normal about them. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take the entire cast of every one of

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<v Speaker 1>hat who would be on each show, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>find out next week who's gonna be with me on

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<v Speaker 1>none of the three people you see right now we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on the break next week. God, why'd you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it last week. I just thought it was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, good, But this will be fun. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun. We'll do that next week

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<v Speaker 1>next Tuesday and Wednesday. There will be no shows on

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<v Speaker 1>will be our normal show because we absolutely have to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what Amber has to say after the Cowboys play

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers. But we'll jump back into we'll jump We'll

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<v Speaker 1>jump into that on Tuesday and Wednesday and have some

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<v Speaker 1>fun with it for the rest of the bye week

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<v Speaker 1>with some different casts. On each of the shows. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's get into first some injury updates. There were

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<v Speaker 1>two guys that were limited in practice yesterday that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much you guys were surprised, but my

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<v Speaker 1>brow raised a bit when I saw their names. Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>Elliot has a hamstring, Alton Smith has a knee. Are

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<v Speaker 1>these just situations where they're just trying to manage things

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<v Speaker 1>that are just bumps and bruises that happens throughout an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season or is it more serious than that day? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Mike McCarthy said this morning that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>serious issues. You know. He said they might limit Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in practice today just to keep him fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alton Smith as well. So I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that puts either of them in jeopardy

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<v Speaker 1>for Sunday, but it is something that you gotta watch

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<v Speaker 1>because they love to take the whole week, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they're never going to be completely truthful with the media

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<v Speaker 1>when they're talking about this stuff. Mike McCarthy maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing I've learned about covering him is he does

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<v Speaker 1>not like talking about injuries. So I'm not concerned, right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do want to keep an eye on it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, moving forward over the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's jump into this conversation that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have about the Cowboys offense. Let's start first with

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>this question. What will be the factors that Dallas will

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<v Speaker 1>or should consider when trying to determine who their starting

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is going to be this weekend between Gilbert and Rush?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think ultimately who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately will be the starter. Let's start with you, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it comes down to who understands the offense

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<v Speaker 1>the best. I mean, you can look at measurable's arm strength,

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, but it's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>who can process what we're trying to do. Remember, when

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<v Speaker 1>the blitz is coming here or the safety comes down,

0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I know that this receiver is supposed to stop here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just about recognition of the offense and what the

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<v Speaker 1>design is. And that being said, I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be Cooper Rush, So that's who I would

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<v Speaker 1>go with. If that is the case. Whoever understands this

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<v Speaker 1>offense the best would be the guy go with Amber.

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<v Speaker 1>This doesn't really help the defense But if it was

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<v Speaker 1>up to me, I practice, I would take time to

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<v Speaker 1>allow the defense to win some of these matchups and

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<v Speaker 1>create some pressure to the quarterback, and just based on that,

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<v Speaker 1>see which of these two guys is able to make

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<v Speaker 1>better decisions under those kinds of pressures. You know, just

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<v Speaker 1>try to create somewhat a close environment as to what

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<v Speaker 1>you might get from the Steelers on Sunday, which shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be too hard with this kind of old line right now,

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But just create the similar scenario just to see which

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<v Speaker 1>of the two guys has better reaction to their pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would lean towards Scooper rush. All right, just

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>so I understand, are you saying, would you literally be like,

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, two offensive line, y'all just take the playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just see what this looks like when guys just

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<v Speaker 1>run through. They already That's what I'm saying, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be I would go and say, okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the only line, let the defensive players win,

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>let them go through, like don't play to just let

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>them swing through and allow the defense to make place,

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 1>just to create pressure and to see what how the

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>quarterback reacts. And based on that, that's what I would

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>want create some false pressure because you know you're letting

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<v Speaker 1>the defense win in that aspect, but just to kind

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>of get a better feel as to how the quarterback reacts.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like you take the offensive line off the

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<v Speaker 1>field and you do like two alligator and you're like,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>y'all play two alligator defense. You got one alligator too?

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<v Speaker 1>Alligator and did you go get the quarterback and let's

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you can get the ball out quickly because

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what he's gonna have. I don't know what that is?

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Ya there you go? Is that really? Did y'all know

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>what the alligat is? That Mississippi? It's Mississippi. It's Mississippi.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who who's We've never heard in Texas

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>we say one alligator to alligat. That's how you play

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>football when you had when you had to wait to rush.

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>That's how we did it, right, I got it. It's Mississippi.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>We did get it. Okay, okay, the four percent of

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the world that did an alligator, but everyone else that's

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>less thing. It's Mississippi. Don't get us. Started grew up

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>in Louisiana, where there are alligators everywhere, and I've never

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>heard that you don't really like people from Mississippi anyways. True.

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, what I think it's funny about what Amber

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>said is that is that we have to let the

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<v Speaker 1>defense like you guys are gonna win this time. It's

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like they can't really do it on their own. You know,

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, we know you probably won't so this time.

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Even though that's kind of weird, because I would imagine,

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine the defense has some success in practice.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I get your point, though, get some

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>get some pressure on these guys because you're gonna see it. Actually,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>what I would do is I would probably blitz. I

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<v Speaker 1>would play like seven versus five, like that's what it's

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. Yeah, But you know, honestly, what we've seen

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>coaches do, and this goes back to, you know, years

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.719
<v Speaker 1>ago when when Parcelves is here. What we've seen coaches

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>do is just have that horn out there and literally

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>at two seconds or whatever it is, that horn goes off.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>That forces a quarterback in his mind to know, regardless

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of what you're seeing right now, in practice, this is

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>the point where you need to be getting rid of

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the ball because well, whatever it is. You might want

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to put it at one and a half seconds, whatever

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it is. Whatever it is, I think that is something

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen coaches do just to make sure their quarterback

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>is has a mental clock or starts to develop a

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>mental clock of this is how fast you need to

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>get rid of the ball because they're gonna be coming

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's too Like, They're glad you brought up parselves,

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>because that's who I thought Amber sounded like, to be

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, like that sounds like some old school,

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>like nineteen eighties stuff like I want you to kill

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>our quarterback please, so we can see who's better in

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>dealing with with stress. I like the idea, though, to

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.719
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, I thought it was interesting today.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've talked to a lot of people since

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>since Andy went down, just off the record conversations, talking

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>with friends, talking with you know, me and Nick have

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about it. Everybody on the outside seems to think

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush is a favorite. And then and I'm not

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>saying he gave anything away, but today at his press conference,

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy said, obviously Garrett has a little more experience

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>than Cooper because he's been here, which for First of all,

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>really has he I'm not sure that it was an

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting comment. Yeah, I was like, he's Mike. He's been

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>here for like ten days. I don't know if that

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>is enough to qualify, But um so, I don't know.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe McCarthy thinks Scarrett Gilbert has more of a

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>leg up than we think. All right, let's move on

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to the next question. With the strength of pitts Rush

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>being their defensive ends, those are the guys that we

0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>hear about. Those of the guys that tend to end

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 1>with the sacks. I think they have three defensive ends

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that all have six plus sacks this season. That being said,

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>is it in a better strategy to have Zach Martin

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<v Speaker 1>at tackle this week? Now? I know I'm gonna preface

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 1>this by saying, Dave, I know that the Cowboys are

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna do this. We know that. Okay, this

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>is a hypothetical and this is your own analysis. Do

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you think this is a week where it makes more

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>sense for the Cowboys to have him at tackle because

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 1>of how good they're defensive or they're outside linebackers in

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>this instance, are Let's start first with you, Dave. Okay,

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like it always act like I never always act like

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I never play along. Um, I will let me say this.

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said when we were on with Bucky,

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like Pittsburgh's got some badass defensive tackles too, so you're

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>giving up something there by moving him. But yes, I would,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I would play. I would play Zack at tackle t J.

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Watt maybe, you know, maybe the best left end in

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the league. I don't know if that's true, but he's

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the he's the he's in the conversation. He's certainly in

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I don't like that matchup for Terrence Steel

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>at all. I would move Zach for sure. Well, but

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this, Dave. Do you think that

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>they will do some more wild cut? And if they

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>did more wild cut, I think keeping keeping Zach Martin

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>there in the center of the line might be better

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, that's where some of those that's where

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the blocking is going to need to be.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if Terrence Steele is that bad

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of a run blocker. I mean, I think he's decent there.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I think he just doesn't have the feet

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>or the techniques really for those quick edge rushers like

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>t J. Wat. I kind of think this is going

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to be one of those slow down type of games

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that you do need to run the ball. I think

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you're having a better guard in there might be better.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if I would switch this week. Amber,

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and I agree, and I agree with what Dave said.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if their strength is really there outside

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of the rush. I think they get the benefit because

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>they get the meat there because the pockets always collapse.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if the strength really isn't in

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the defensive title. So either way, I mean, I probably

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>would keep Zach wary Is in this game. Dave, do

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you have something you rested throwing in there? That's a

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>really good point. I guess I'm expecting them to play

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it pretty traditionally, and I mean, I'm sure there will

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>be some wildcat snaps, but I still anticipated looking more

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>normal than that, which I disagree with. I think they

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>should run wildcat every play, but you know, if you're

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>going to ask one of these guys to drop back,

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteen to twenty times. I feel very bad

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>about Terrence Steele dealing with that. Amber. That's an interesting

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>point that Nick made in today's point about the wildcat.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I find it hard to see that they

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>do play so many wildcat plays, you know, like that

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that's difficult to do, especially one you need to be

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>successful at. If you are not successful well at the

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>plays that you're creating, it's just not gonna work and

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>you're not fooling anyone. But going back to your question, one,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, we don't think that sack Martin is gonna

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>be moved to tackle, but me personally, I would I

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>would like I've been wanting them to move him to

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>tackle for several weeks now, but for some reason, they

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>keep thinking that's steel, how's it down, and that's their man,

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and okay, good for you guys, protect the quarterback. Let's

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>just try to limit injuries from now on. But it's

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be tough to watch that matchup. Yeah, I

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.239
<v Speaker 1>think that the interesting thing here is that you have

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to try to make the evaluation of is the difference

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>between Steele at tackle and let's say McGovern at guard

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>or loony whichever one. What's that delta, because that really

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>is what you're what you're playing. Because I think Zach

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Martin will be good at either one. I personally believe

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that that's what I was gonna say, though, do you

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>think he would be just as good at tackle as

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>we've seen it once this year and he looked really good,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and see any problems there? So I'll have to Now,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Seattle doesn't have a t J. Watt exactly.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>That's where I was going. If you're going up against

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>t J. Watt, you're not gonna win all day. You're

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna give up something. I don't care who you are.

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>If Lyle Collins was out there this week, we'd be

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>saying that's a matchup to watch it because he's gonna

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>have some challenges there because t J. Watt is that good.

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>But that all being said, giving up one sack if

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you're Martin versus giving up three sacks if you're still

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a sizeable difference. Yeah, one guy that

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>needs to really step it up, especially if they do

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Wildcat is be honest, his snaps weren't very good, especially

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the ones to Zeke. It always seemed like they were

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>really slow and kind of off centered a little bit.

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that that's gonna be something that needs

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to be cleaned up too. I mean, if he's gonna

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>get the ball, he's gotta get it quickly, all right,

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take our final break when we come back.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Dave, and do we think that Joe, like Tyler,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>be honest, is definitely the starting center? Do we think?

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Do we know? That? Is actually a great question, because

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>that is the question I was going to pose when

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>we came back from break. So I'm gonna give you

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>guys a break to tak about it, and then we

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>will talk about what we think Joe Looney's role will

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>be and what we think is role should be in

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>this next game. We'll do that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming from the stadium? What do you mean comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium? Yeah, that's where they make it. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean it seems like kind of a trek up

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. All right, let's get back into the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>to this Cowboys offense. My next question was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be for you guys, as Dave talked about just before

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<v Speaker 1>the break, what do you expect Joe Looney's role to

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<v Speaker 1>be this week and what do you think it should be.

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Let's start first with you Amber. I would imagine it

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to be similar to what we saw last week, and

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>what I would like is not going to happen. They

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>keep telling I mean, what I think requires a lot

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>of shuffling around, and clearly they do not want to

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>do that. So I just I don't think they would

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>take out Tyler Biadish out of center to plugging Joe

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Looney as a starter again. But then at the same time,

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of doubtful about that comment. That was a

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>unique that brought it up by comming that Joe made

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>as he maybe he said next week, I should be

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>out there next week. But then as Dave said, where,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, Yeah, somewhere. Uh, I don't know.

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>This is this is tricky because I think it all

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>stems down to what like, what are they really trying

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>to do? Like, I mean, are you Jerry made it

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>clear last week what they're trying to do earlier this

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>week when he said they are looking at young guys

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of how they're thinking about then the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season. Then, from from what I have

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 1>been told, that they do want to keep that core

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of Connor Williams and be Honest and Zach Martin because

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>those three are probably going to be the interior of

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 1>the line next year. And if that is the case,

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>then that's what I think they do. And I don't

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>know where Joe Looney fits into that. Then that's interesting.

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>But to be honest with you, I mean, that probably

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>makes the most sense. Dave, go ahead. I look at

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>be Honest the same way I look at Treyvon Diggs.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>He needs to be out there, you know, I know,

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, mathematically they're still alive, but they're probably not

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>going to win the division. And I know he's not

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to work with this preferred quarterback, but he

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>can still. Reps are good. You need to be getting reps.

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>You need to be working on and and he's showed

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>enough promise. He's not a liability. So he needs to

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>be in there playing and getting better. So I hope

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and that it's no disrespect to Joe Looney. It's just business.

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, Joe Looney's got eight games left on his contract.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Beatis is a rookie draft pit, so I hope

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that they wouldn't plug him back in. Maybe, you know,

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe when he told you that he meant field goal

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>team or something, I don't know, um, but or well

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>he was if they want to move team, but he

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>did well, So yeah, because that's I don't know the

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>only guy that did. If they want to move yeah,

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>if they want to move Zack to right tackle, I'd

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>be fine playing Joe at right guard, but I don't

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna do that. So yeah, I mean it's

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>unless you're plugging him back in at center. I don't

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>know what would makes sense. And I hope you know,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a good idea. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about playing younger guys like, be honest, than McGovern

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.720
<v Speaker 1>would probably want to be your guy over over loaning

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>was Lord knows he needs to play because he just

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a lot of snaps under his belt. So

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>if you want to play young guys. I just you know,

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like a great spot for looney Yep.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move to the next question. With all

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the tricks that Dallas pulled out last week versus Philadelphia,

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>do you think they have to play more of a

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>conventional game this week because they've now lost the element

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>of surprise Nicholas. Um, You know, I like I like

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the trick plays um when they work. Um, But no,

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I like them. I mean, I think you have to.

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to do both. You can't just

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>line up and beat them. You just can't do it.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>You never saw the teams in the nineties really do

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>it because they didn't have to. They just run over

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>you and they this team obviously can't do that. So

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I do think you need to trick it up a

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But but I like to slow down. I mean,

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, slow down thing um game plan as well.

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I'm taking my shots, I'm taking some

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>reverses I'm doing. You know, I'm definitely gonna do a

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 1>flea flicker for sure. Um, But you know, every game

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>at least once. But yeah, I would, I would do

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>some of those tricks. I still would. Dave how many.

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I hate to put anybody on the spot, but how

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>many trick players do we think they ran last week?

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Like five? Maybe? On what you're calling a trick play, right,

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, if you're calling a reverse or

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>double reverse a trick player, those are, but they're relatively

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>common in the NFL now, right, Not for this team,

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>You're right, not for this more of the Cowboys though, Yeah,

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that's true. I would My point, my point being, if

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 1>you're an NFL offensive coordinator and that's all you can

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>come up with, like you you shouldn't be one. Like

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, they they emptied the playbook, like

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope not. I hope. I hope you listens more

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>of those and maybe they would never see the light

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of day. But like, that's what football coaches do. They

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>draw up plays while they're eating lunch. That's what that's

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>fun for them. So I would hope Kellen Moore's got

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot more left in the bag, and they absolutely

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>need to do it, you know, they need to. The

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Wildcat needs to be part of this. Some trick plays

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and not even real trick plays. That's a great point, Derek,

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Like a jet sweep in twenty twenty is not a

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>trick play. It's something you should be doing anyway. You

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>should be doing it all the time. And the other

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 1>fun thing is, you know, like I bring up the

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 1>rams all the time because I admire them so much.

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Like all you have to do is change the formation

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that you run the same play out of, Like you

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>can run the exact same play and move a guy

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to the other side of the formation and it's completely different.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 1>So it shouldn't be that hard to trick this thing

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>up again. And if they think that they're gonna win

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>playing traditionally, they got another thing coming. So yes, they

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>need to be doing it again and again and again.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Da I mean, Nick say, I got trick play? Was

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that this this will work. I've seen it work before,

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, stat liberty. No, it's fourth and one and

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you're at midfield and you're like, are they really gonna

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>snap this? Are they gonna snap it? Maybe they will,

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe they won't. And the guy goes up there, whoever

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it is, Rush or Gilbert, just like hut hut, I mean,

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>really try to do it like ten times in a row,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>stand up, walk yourself to the line, to walk yourself

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna call it time out. Snap at Zeke

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>because by that time those linemen are tired of being

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in their stants and they kind of see the quarterback

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>walk off. It's all you need. Snap at Zeke first down.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it work, it has worked before. Do it?

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>You want to see it? Kellen, listen? All right? Rather

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>see that or a flee flicker? And well, I want

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to see the fleeflicker. But I'm telling you this, if

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that happens and they score a touchdown, like my phone

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>will break like it'll I mean every flicker. Yeah, because

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.399
<v Speaker 1>every time if Cincinnati's playing Tulsa on a Thursday night

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and then somebody runs a fleeflicker, I get mentions, like

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. So if the Cowboys ever running

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>when Jason Garrett, seriously, Jason Garrett waited twelve years for

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you to do that, you come back here and throw

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a flee flicker. All right, let's see if we can

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>get one or two fan questions here before we end

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the show. Amber, what do you got? Well, speaking of

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett, this is a pretty blunt question, and since

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to answer it, I'm just gonna throw it,

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>y'all's away. So after everything that we've seen so far

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>this year. Could it be the Jason Garrett possibly was

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>not the one necessarily to blame for the results that

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>they've had in previous years. Dave, I want to take that.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not afraid that. I'm not afraid to answer the question.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just perplexed, like why it's being asked in the

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 1>first place. I guess, like, yes, he was the head

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>coach for a decade, Like everything, everything that goes wrong

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>falls on you when you're the head coach. And by

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the way, the Cowboys, you know, we hesitate to say effort,

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>but like the Cowboys had these mental problems last year.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>They got their butts kicked half a dozen times. People

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>are like, they never quit on Jason Garrett. Like they

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>got destroyed four or five times last year, like Buffalo

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and Chicago just dragged them up and down the field.

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they went eight and eight and

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't have nearly the injury problems that they're having right now. So, yeah,

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>this season's going poorly. It's about as bad of a

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>start for Mike McCarthy as you could ask for. But

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't magically make the problems of the Jason Garrett

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>era go away. Yeah. The fact the matter is the

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>head coach is responsible for the result, probably more than

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>anybody else in the franchise and or on the team

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>at least. And so the way I look at it

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>is if you're if they played bad last year, yes,

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Jason was the problem. He was at least part of

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a major part of the problem. By the way, that

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>also means that this year Mike McCarthy has to take

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>his slumps for being a part of the problem because

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>they are two and six. So yes, absolutely, last year

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Jason was a part of the problem, and absolutely this

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>year Mike McCarthy's part of the problem. That's the point

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 1>of a head point coach. You have to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>when things aren't going right, how to write the ship

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<v Speaker 1>and how to get your team to play above their heads.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't do that, then you're not doing your

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<v Speaker 1>job well enough. And I think most coaches will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that. They'll admit that that is their job. That's

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<v Speaker 1>in the job description. You're responsible for the final result.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll leave us with this and if we're done here

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<v Speaker 1>this I got a tweet easily. Don't take these tweets

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<v Speaker 1>to the air, but this is from the handle it's

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<v Speaker 1>this defense can't tackle. That's the name of the handle.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says, man, who would you want to start

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday? Garrett or Cooper? And then he says, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is really love Jason Garrett. One quarterback has his

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<v Speaker 1>last name, the other one looks like him. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you guys joining us. We will be back

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<v Speaker 1>again tomorrow. I'll let you know what will happen Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys versus Steelers. It is a three thirty kickoff at

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T Stadium. Till then for Nick Eatman, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been

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