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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November fifth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode
Speaker 1: number fifty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
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Speaker 1: gonna be joined here momentarily by Bucky Brooks. Real quick though,
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Speaker 1: that being said, let's welcome to the show, Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: from NFL Network. Let's talk a little Cowboys versus Steelers.
Speaker 1: The day, we're going to focus in on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense versus the Steelers defense and what a good defense
Speaker 1: it is. Bucky, the first question I have for you
Speaker 1: is when you look at these two teams. There's obviously
Speaker 1: that there's OBUs obviously a really huge talent gap between
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive front and the Steelers defensive front. That
Speaker 1: being said, and I'm thinking more big picture, what you've
Speaker 1: seen in your experience as a player, as a scout
Speaker 1: and now as an analyst. What can teams do when
Speaker 1: you have that big of a talent gap between the two?
Speaker 1: What can teams do offensively to maybe lessen that or
Speaker 1: give you just a little bit more opportunity to at
Speaker 1: least do something and not just get completely embarrassed. Well,
Speaker 1: I think a couple of different things, And I think
Speaker 1: this has to be a collective effort, meaning Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, Mike McCarthy, John fall Stay all have to
Speaker 1: be on the same page in terms of how this
Speaker 1: game is played out. If you want to protect your offense,
Speaker 1: the best way you can protect the offense is to
Speaker 1: really slow this game down. And I know early in
Speaker 1: the year when Dallas was playing, they're playing really really fast,
Speaker 1: trying to get plays off. They're averaging two and a
Speaker 1: half plays every minute. You don't want to play this
Speaker 1: fast against this Pittsburgh Steiler's team because if you're not
Speaker 1: having success, you don't want to give them opportunities. I
Speaker 1: think this is a game where you almost operate at
Speaker 1: a turtle tempo. Take the play clock down to about
Speaker 1: five seconds, really drained the clock, and see if you
Speaker 1: can make this game where you have anywhere from ten
Speaker 1: to twelve total possessions. So not because of your talent,
Speaker 1: but because of the way that you play, you may
Speaker 1: be able to keep the game tight, and maybe you
Speaker 1: can put pressure on the stealers to go make a
Speaker 1: play because you put yourself in a position to be
Speaker 1: there in the fourth quarter just by the way that
Speaker 1: you've conducted yourself in terms of operating at a very
Speaker 1: deliberate and slow tempo. Bucky, yesterday, they've brought up the
Speaker 1: whole idea of the wildcat information, which I thought was
Speaker 1: pretty interesting and I wanted you to talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: Weren't about that. We know what the pros can be
Speaker 1: for that kind of formation, but what would be some
Speaker 1: of the cons for the Cowboys if they were to
Speaker 1: play those that formation against the Steelers defense? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean the pros obviously you get the additional blocker. Like
Speaker 1: when you're looking at offensive football, most teams don't count
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and so the defense always has a plus
Speaker 1: one advantage when it comes to matching me up against
Speaker 1: the run game. Well, now you remove the quarterback and
Speaker 1: put a viable running threat. Now even the numbers, and
Speaker 1: so now you have advantages when it comes to being
Speaker 1: able to run the ball inside and out because you've
Speaker 1: gained an additional blocker. The cons are, if you're guy
Speaker 1: who was running the wildcat doesn't have the ability to throw,
Speaker 1: at some point you're able to squeeze and collapse the
Speaker 1: box because you know that they can't throw. But I'll
Speaker 1: say this, and to bring up Texas Lore years ago
Speaker 1: when our brows was at Baylor, I watched him run
Speaker 1: for maybe four hundred yards against Texas without a quarterback.
Speaker 1: All their quarterbacks that got knocked out. The following bowl
Speaker 1: game they played North Carolina, they ran for seven hundred
Speaker 1: yards and they didn't have a quarterback. So in the
Speaker 1: National Football League we have seen teams like the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: we saw the Carolina Panthers employed this strategy successfully. So
Speaker 1: it can be done. Is just that, are you bold
Speaker 1: enough to try and employed the strategy when everyone is
Speaker 1: going to say it's an out of the box way.
Speaker 1: To play a football game, Bucky. I'm probably gonna steal
Speaker 1: this question from Dave, so I'm glad I'm going first, Tara,
Speaker 1: when you were looking at the draft, did you was
Speaker 1: t J Watt? Was he someone that had to play
Speaker 1: in the three fourth scheme or is he good enough
Speaker 1: where he could have played in any scheme? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the three four scheme is probably best for him,
Speaker 1: just in terms of the way they mix him with
Speaker 1: hand down, standing up pressuring, but it's awsome man takes
Speaker 1: three four four three. What you asked to edge rush
Speaker 1: to do in most of these defense is the same.
Speaker 1: From a side standpoint, he wasn't your traditional base in
Speaker 1: in terms of like how big he was, and so
Speaker 1: depending upon how you deployed the defensive end, he might
Speaker 1: not have been a great fit. But he was a
Speaker 1: really good player. And even though he was a bit
Speaker 1: of a one year player for Wisconsin, in terms of
Speaker 1: the production, you can see the traits. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone thought that he would bloss him and
Speaker 1: emerge to being the player that he's been in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: So I would say he was a really good player,
Speaker 1: but I think his game has been elevated by the
Speaker 1: fact that he's playing in a scheme that puts him
Speaker 1: in a position to really make a lot of plays
Speaker 1: because they blitz at an alarming rate. I actually don't
Speaker 1: want to bring up t J. Watt because it's depressing.
Speaker 1: I think we've covered We've covered that situation pretty thoroughly.
Speaker 1: But I actually so t J. Watt gets all the
Speaker 1: headlines and understandably so. But me being the guy that's
Speaker 1: advocating for just running the ball as much as possible,
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe Cam Hayward and Tyson ah Lulu
Speaker 1: don't get enough credit for how good they are at
Speaker 1: run defense, and I'm curious if Tyler Beadish and Connor
Speaker 1: Williams are up to that task. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty nasty front that you're going against if you're going
Speaker 1: to be trying to run the ball. Yeah, first things first,
Speaker 1: before we can even talk about the personnel that the
Speaker 1: Stealers have, whenever you play the Pittsburgh Stellers, you have
Speaker 1: to have the right mindset. It is the most physical
Speaker 1: game that the Dallas Cowboys will be in, and they
Speaker 1: have to know that when you play Pittsburgh like that
Speaker 1: is their calling card, that is the first thing that
Speaker 1: they're going to test you with their overall physicality and aggressiveness.
Speaker 1: And so Tyler Baddish and all those guys up front,
Speaker 1: they have to really be able to weather the physicality
Speaker 1: and toughness from a personnel standpoint, You're right. Those guys
Speaker 1: on the inside, Stefan tour Cam Heyward, those guys put
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure because they can troll on a scrimmage.
Speaker 1: And then this is a team that blings more blisses
Speaker 1: and pressure than any other team in the league, well
Speaker 1: second most, forty two point five percent of the time
Speaker 1: to bring in at least five man pressures. And a
Speaker 1: lot of the press is not necessarily designed for the quarterback.
Speaker 1: It is designed to blow up the running game, and
Speaker 1: so you get a lot of movement, a lot of
Speaker 1: bodies around the box, and so you have to be
Speaker 1: able to sort out who's coming where in your gafts
Speaker 1: while also dealing with the physicality. So they make it very,
Speaker 1: very challenging for you to be able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: And Mike Tomlin has already served notice Ezekiel Elliott is
Speaker 1: a guy that they're focusing on. They're making a concerted
Speaker 1: effort to make sure that Ezekiel Elliott doesn't run the ball,
Speaker 1: and so this is going to be a test of
Speaker 1: wheels who can impose their will on the other team.
Speaker 1: And so we'll see if the Cowboys office line is
Speaker 1: up to the challenge. Derek, I just wanted to add
Speaker 1: a point. I remember right when the schedule came out,
Speaker 1: I talked to a coach and I said, what do
Speaker 1: you think about the schedule? And the first thing he
Speaker 1: said was is I like the fact we have a
Speaker 1: buye after the Steelers because they're always very physical. That's
Speaker 1: the first thing the guy said, not like three in
Speaker 1: a row or anything to start the year or December.
Speaker 1: It was the bye week comes after playing Pittsburgh. Now
Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. Yeah, and that's actually an
Speaker 1: interesting I'll follow up on that a little bit because
Speaker 1: you look at this, I mean for people like like
Speaker 1: me and Nick and Bucky like that have been that
Speaker 1: are a little older, We've been watching the Steelers like
Speaker 1: for generations, and it seems like their their defensive prowess
Speaker 1: and who they are defensively has not changed. And they've
Speaker 1: always been a tough team. They've always been a physical team.
Speaker 1: Or city wouldn't accept them if they weren't well. And
Speaker 1: that's that's the question I have for you, Bucky, is
Speaker 1: how is it that because I would assume all teams
Speaker 1: are trying to get to that level of greatness, but
Speaker 1: to be able to be consistent with that even with
Speaker 1: changing of coaches, which they're again, they're not a franchise
Speaker 1: of changes coaches a lot, But even with the change
Speaker 1: of coaches and skiing, how is it that they're able
Speaker 1: to be as dominant defensively if they've as they've been
Speaker 1: for generations? You know there. I'm a big believer that
Speaker 1: your team almost has to reflect your city in terms
Speaker 1: of the style of play, and the way that jarr
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a blue collar, a hard scrabbled uh city,
Speaker 1: and the team has to reflect defensively. Defensively is how
Speaker 1: they claimed those four Super Bowls during the Chuck no era,
Speaker 1: and so anybody that comes after that you have to
Speaker 1: embrace that style. Now, I will say this as recent
Speaker 1: as three or four years ago, when they were governed
Speaker 1: by the Killer Bees, when it was Big Ben Levan
Speaker 1: Bill and Antonio Brown, it was all about their offense.
Speaker 1: Their defense dipped and they didn't have any significant wins
Speaker 1: I think Mike Tomlin went back to the recipe in
Speaker 1: the formula that's been successful for them. It's about their defense.
Speaker 1: And when you look at this team that walks into
Speaker 1: the stadium, their defense has all the stars Stefantoit, Cam Hayward,
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, but Dupree, when Bush was there, Mica Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: Their best players are on defense. And it's not a
Speaker 1: coincidence that since they've turned it back over into being
Speaker 1: a defensive team, which started with the draft two years ago,
Speaker 1: they have now begun to play like we remember that
Speaker 1: Stiller is playing in yesteryear and so everyone is on board.
Speaker 1: And the way they're calling the offensive game. We talked
Speaker 1: about the offense yesterday about big Ben in the quick
Speaker 1: Deacon duck where big Ben has no choice. It's not
Speaker 1: about the offense, about the defense, and they play it
Speaker 1: as such, and so it's a more conservative approach. Even
Speaker 1: though there's going a bunch of points. Their defense is
Speaker 1: what really cares to water for this team, Bucky. When
Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys offense, and we know about
Speaker 1: Zeke popping up with a hamstring injury, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that later and done the show.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about that and you look at
Speaker 1: the quarterback and the old line and all the struggles
Speaker 1: that they currently have in the offense, who would be
Speaker 1: a guy or that could possibly bring some light to
Speaker 1: the offense and have potentially a good game for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys When you look at matchups specifically against this defense,
Speaker 1: I think the guy that has to have a big
Speaker 1: game is Tony Pollard and I think he has finally
Speaker 1: settled into the role that they have him. I think
Speaker 1: early in the year like for whatever reason, it was
Speaker 1: kind of disjointed, he was fumbling on kickoffs, really couldn't
Speaker 1: settle land, and I think they found a way for
Speaker 1: him to get going, and I think hopefully as part
Speaker 1: of a bigger strategy, I think the magic number for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys each and every week should be thirty five,
Speaker 1: And thirty five means the number of rushing attempts that
Speaker 1: they have, not about the rushing yards, but when you're
Speaker 1: playing with a hodgepodge of quarterbacks, you have to be
Speaker 1: able to somehow find a way to control the game.
Speaker 1: The way that you can control the game is with
Speaker 1: the running attack, because then it makes it easier for
Speaker 1: the quarterback to play against favorable looks. The problem is
Speaker 1: can the offensive line generate a push against what is
Speaker 1: really a formidable frontline from the Pittsburgh Steelers. That is
Speaker 1: where the game will be one. If they can create
Speaker 1: any kind of movement up front, it gives them a chance.
Speaker 1: And coming off a game, even though we've built the
Speaker 1: Steelers up to be like the best defense ever, the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens had success running the ball. Is there something
Speaker 1: in that tape that the Cowboys can steal to utilize
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Steelers to find a way to control
Speaker 1: the game. That is what I'm curious. I'm curious to
Speaker 1: see if Kelly Moore can still a nugget or two
Speaker 1: from Baltimore's approach and implement it to see if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can have some success on the ground. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you mentioned Kellen Moore because in your weekly article of
Speaker 1: five Bucks, which if you haven't listen, if you haven't
Speaker 1: read that, you need to every week because I'm telling you, Bucky,
Speaker 1: you seem conservative when you sometimes in quiet, mild manner,
Speaker 1: but you bring the heat in these articles and your
Speaker 1: first one says Kellen Moore needs a lesson in complementary football.
Speaker 1: Can you explain on that, even though you did in
Speaker 1: the article, explain on that little bit. Okay, I'm a
Speaker 1: firm believer that the Cowboys should have more wins than
Speaker 1: this ship if they just managed the game correctly. In
Speaker 1: terms of just from a play calling standpoint, I think
Speaker 1: it is easy for offense for easy for offensive coordinators
Speaker 1: to kind of operate in a solo by themselves. Meaning
Speaker 1: I am just calling plays because I want to ring
Speaker 1: up these stats and i want to see if I
Speaker 1: can score points, and I'm not worried about what the
Speaker 1: defense is doing. I'm not worried about how the kicking
Speaker 1: game is going. But great teams, everything is always working
Speaker 1: in unison, and the head coach's job is to make
Speaker 1: sure that he is telling the offensive order, Hey we
Speaker 1: need to sprinkle in some more runs. Hey we have
Speaker 1: them undercontrolled on defense, So you don't have to be
Speaker 1: as aggressive on offense because we have this game undercontrolled
Speaker 1: defensively and the other team will give us a short
Speaker 1: field if we continue to do what we're doing. And
Speaker 1: I think for Kellen Moore, he is young as a
Speaker 1: play caller. He has to understand how to take all
Speaker 1: of that in and to make his play calls fit
Speaker 1: the style that the game is going. And so hopefully
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has pulled aside because we've heard him kind
Speaker 1: of touch on it, like, Hey, this is the style
Speaker 1: of the play that we want. But I need Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy to put a bigger imprint on this because he
Speaker 1: was known as a dynamic play caller. I'm wondering how
Speaker 1: long Kenney continue to go with Kellen Moore kind of
Speaker 1: running on his own and them not calling the game
Speaker 1: in conjunction with the way the rest of the team
Speaker 1: is playing, which kind of going off that. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I mean you got you gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: manufacture big plays in a situation like this, right, I
Speaker 1: mean last week they they tried, they tried the trick plays,
Speaker 1: the reverses, the wide receiver throws, anything they could to
Speaker 1: do that. And I assume, you know, Pittsburgh, I would guess,
Speaker 1: is going to put nine or ten guys in the
Speaker 1: box and commit to stopping the run. How do you
Speaker 1: manufacture plays that'll back them off in this instance? I mean,
Speaker 1: is it as easy as saying, just chunk some deep
Speaker 1: shots down the field. We didn't really see that A
Speaker 1: ton last week, the Nucci didn't have the accuracy to
Speaker 1: do it. Do you stick with trying the trick stuff?
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to need to back the Steelers
Speaker 1: out of the box, and how do you do it
Speaker 1: with a fourth quarterback? Hey, you can't play a trick
Speaker 1: the football against Pittsburgh Steelers. So that's that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: We all over that you've exhausted your trick plays last week.
Speaker 1: That's not going to be effective this week. I think
Speaker 1: that the advantages that the Cowboys have are on the outside.
Speaker 1: Despite me talking about the pressure and all the things
Speaker 1: that the Pittsburgh Steels due in terms of knock into
Speaker 1: quarterback around, they can be had on the outside by
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Wibers. The trick will be can the Cowboys
Speaker 1: manufacture some play action max protection shots where they're able
Speaker 1: to get one on one with a Maori Cooper or
Speaker 1: Michael Galloper or Ceedee Lamb down the field against this
Speaker 1: secondary Because we don't talk about Joe Hayden and those
Speaker 1: other guys being premier cover corners. What we talk about
Speaker 1: is the pressure forcing the ball to come out and
Speaker 1: that is how they generate their turnovers. So I would
Speaker 1: think that even though you're playing with three wide receivers,
Speaker 1: hold the running back in, hold the tight in, and
Speaker 1: run some three man routes and take a handful of shots.
Speaker 1: I would say you need four or five shots this
Speaker 1: game to be able to score points when you take them.
Speaker 1: They come at various times, but you have to dial
Speaker 1: up some big play shots. But I think max protection
Speaker 1: must come with those so you can be successful. All right,
Speaker 1: Bucky man, we appreciate you joining us real quick before
Speaker 1: we let you go, give us an idea of what
Speaker 1: you think is going to happen this weekend and your
Speaker 1: final score. I mean, this is a tough one, man.
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's optimistic as I want to be about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Playing a rookie quarterback or a young
Speaker 1: quarterback against Distiller's front is tough. And so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say the game tips in the Steller's favor unless the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can avoid the turnovers and they can control the
Speaker 1: game by slowing the game down. If they don't opt
Speaker 1: to slow the game down, they don't have a chance
Speaker 1: of knocking off the stealers. They cannot get in the
Speaker 1: track me, they can't play tote to toe with them,
Speaker 1: they will get knocked out. Appreciate it, Bucky. We will
Speaker 1: get back with you. Actually, we won't be back with
Speaker 1: you next week. We'll be back with you the week
Speaker 1: after next week's bye week, so we won't have an opponent,
Speaker 1: but we'll be back with you the week after that
Speaker 1: to start getting ready for that game. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: our first break when we come back, We're gonna dive
Speaker 1: a little deeper into this Cowboys offense. Ask some questions
Speaker 1: for these guys on this matchup. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit of Cowboys offense versus
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's defense. I did want to make another announcement. Next week,
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Speaker 1: let's let's get into first some injury updates. There were
Speaker 1: two guys that were limited in practice yesterday that I
Speaker 1: don't know how much you guys were surprised, but my
Speaker 1: brow raised a bit when I saw their names. Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliot has a hamstring, Alton Smith has a knee. Are
Speaker 1: these just situations where they're just trying to manage things
Speaker 1: that are just bumps and bruises that happens throughout an
Speaker 1: NFL season or is it more serious than that day? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean Mike McCarthy said this morning that they're not
Speaker 1: serious issues. You know. He said they might limit Zeke
Speaker 1: a little bit in practice today just to keep him fresh,
Speaker 1: and Alton Smith as well. So I don't think that
Speaker 1: this is something that puts either of them in jeopardy
Speaker 1: for Sunday, but it is something that you gotta watch
Speaker 1: because they love to take the whole week, and obviously
Speaker 1: they're never going to be completely truthful with the media
Speaker 1: when they're talking about this stuff. Mike McCarthy maybe the
Speaker 1: biggest thing I've learned about covering him is he does
Speaker 1: not like talking about injuries. So I'm not concerned, right, now,
Speaker 1: but I do want to keep an eye on it,
Speaker 1: you know, moving forward over the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into this conversation that we're going
Speaker 1: to have about the Cowboys offense. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: this question. What will be the factors that Dallas will
Speaker 1: or should consider when trying to determine who their starting
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be this weekend between Gilbert and Rush?
Speaker 1: And what do you think ultimately who do you think
Speaker 1: ultimately will be the starter. Let's start with you, Nick.
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to who understands the offense
Speaker 1: the best. I mean, you can look at measurable's arm strength,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, but it's got to be
Speaker 1: who can process what we're trying to do. Remember, when
Speaker 1: the blitz is coming here or the safety comes down,
Speaker 1: I know that this receiver is supposed to stop here.
Speaker 1: It's just about recognition of the offense and what the
Speaker 1: design is. And that being said, I can't imagine that
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be Cooper Rush, So that's who I would
Speaker 1: go with. If that is the case. Whoever understands this
Speaker 1: offense the best would be the guy go with Amber.
Speaker 1: This doesn't really help the defense But if it was
Speaker 1: up to me, I practice, I would take time to
Speaker 1: allow the defense to win some of these matchups and
Speaker 1: create some pressure to the quarterback, and just based on that,
Speaker 1: see which of these two guys is able to make
Speaker 1: better decisions under those kinds of pressures. You know, just
Speaker 1: try to create somewhat a close environment as to what
Speaker 1: you might get from the Steelers on Sunday, which shouldn't
Speaker 1: be too hard with this kind of old line right now,
Speaker 1: But just create the similar scenario just to see which
Speaker 1: of the two guys has better reaction to their pressure.
Speaker 1: But I would lean towards Scooper rush. All right, just
Speaker 1: so I understand, are you saying, would you literally be like,
Speaker 1: all right, two offensive line, y'all just take the playoff.
Speaker 1: Let's just see what this looks like when guys just
Speaker 1: run through. They already That's what I'm saying, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I would be I would go and say, okay, the
Speaker 1: guys on the only line, let the defensive players win,
Speaker 1: let them go through, like don't play to just let
Speaker 1: them swing through and allow the defense to make place,
Speaker 1: just to create pressure and to see what how the
Speaker 1: quarterback reacts. And based on that, that's what I would
Speaker 1: want create some false pressure because you know you're letting
Speaker 1: the defense win in that aspect, but just to kind
Speaker 1: of get a better feel as to how the quarterback reacts.
Speaker 1: It's almost like you take the offensive line off the
Speaker 1: field and you do like two alligator and you're like,
Speaker 1: y'all play two alligator defense. You got one alligator too?
Speaker 1: Alligator and did you go get the quarterback and let's
Speaker 1: make sure you can get the ball out quickly because
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna have. I don't know what that is?
Speaker 1: Ya there you go? Is that really? Did y'all know
Speaker 1: what the alligat is? That Mississippi? It's Mississippi. It's Mississippi.
Speaker 1: I don't know who who's We've never heard in Texas
Speaker 1: we say one alligator to alligat. That's how you play
Speaker 1: football when you had when you had to wait to rush.
Speaker 1: That's how we did it, right, I got it. It's Mississippi.
Speaker 1: We did get it. Okay, okay, the four percent of
Speaker 1: the world that did an alligator, but everyone else that's
Speaker 1: less thing. It's Mississippi. Don't get us. Started grew up
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, where there are alligators everywhere, and I've never
Speaker 1: heard that you don't really like people from Mississippi anyways. True.
Speaker 1: You know, what I think it's funny about what Amber
Speaker 1: said is that is that we have to let the
Speaker 1: defense like you guys are gonna win this time. It's
Speaker 1: like they can't really do it on their own. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we know you probably won't so this time.
Speaker 1: Even though that's kind of weird, because I would imagine,
Speaker 1: I would imagine the defense has some success in practice.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I get your point, though, get some
Speaker 1: get some pressure on these guys because you're gonna see it. Actually,
Speaker 1: what I would do is I would probably blitz. I
Speaker 1: would play like seven versus five, like that's what it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, But you know, honestly, what we've seen
Speaker 1: coaches do, and this goes back to, you know, years
Speaker 1: ago when when Parcelves is here. What we've seen coaches
Speaker 1: do is just have that horn out there and literally
Speaker 1: at two seconds or whatever it is, that horn goes off.
Speaker 1: That forces a quarterback in his mind to know, regardless
Speaker 1: of what you're seeing right now, in practice, this is
Speaker 1: the point where you need to be getting rid of
Speaker 1: the ball because well, whatever it is. You might want
Speaker 1: to put it at one and a half seconds, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Whatever it is, I think that is something
Speaker 1: we've seen coaches do just to make sure their quarterback
Speaker 1: is has a mental clock or starts to develop a
Speaker 1: mental clock of this is how fast you need to
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball because they're gonna be coming
Speaker 1: if it's too Like, They're glad you brought up parselves,
Speaker 1: because that's who I thought Amber sounded like, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, like that sounds like some old school,
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighties stuff like I want you to kill
Speaker 1: our quarterback please, so we can see who's better in
Speaker 1: dealing with with stress. I like the idea, though, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I thought it was interesting today.
Speaker 1: You know, I've talked to a lot of people since
Speaker 1: since Andy went down, just off the record conversations, talking
Speaker 1: with friends, talking with you know, me and Nick have
Speaker 1: talked about it. Everybody on the outside seems to think
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is a favorite. And then and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he gave anything away, but today at his press conference,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said, obviously Garrett has a little more experience
Speaker 1: than Cooper because he's been here, which for First of all,
Speaker 1: really has he I'm not sure that it was an
Speaker 1: interesting comment. Yeah, I was like, he's Mike. He's been
Speaker 1: here for like ten days. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: is enough to qualify, But um so, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe McCarthy thinks Scarrett Gilbert has more of a
Speaker 1: leg up than we think. All right, let's move on
Speaker 1: to the next question. With the strength of pitts Rush
Speaker 1: being their defensive ends, those are the guys that we
Speaker 1: hear about. Those of the guys that tend to end
Speaker 1: with the sacks. I think they have three defensive ends
Speaker 1: that all have six plus sacks this season. That being said,
Speaker 1: is it in a better strategy to have Zach Martin
Speaker 1: at tackle this week? Now? I know I'm gonna preface
Speaker 1: this by saying, Dave, I know that the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: probably not gonna do this. We know that. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a hypothetical and this is your own analysis. Do
Speaker 1: you think this is a week where it makes more
Speaker 1: sense for the Cowboys to have him at tackle because
Speaker 1: of how good they're defensive or they're outside linebackers in
Speaker 1: this instance, are Let's start first with you, Dave. Okay,
Speaker 1: like it always act like I never always act like
Speaker 1: I never play along. Um, I will let me say this.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said when we were on with Bucky,
Speaker 1: like Pittsburgh's got some badass defensive tackles too, so you're
Speaker 1: giving up something there by moving him. But yes, I would,
Speaker 1: I would play. I would play Zack at tackle t J.
Speaker 1: Watt maybe, you know, maybe the best left end in
Speaker 1: the league. I don't know if that's true, but he's
Speaker 1: the he's the he's in the conversation. He's certainly in
Speaker 1: the conversation. I don't like that matchup for Terrence Steel
Speaker 1: at all. I would move Zach for sure. Well, but
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Dave. Do you think that
Speaker 1: they will do some more wild cut? And if they
Speaker 1: did more wild cut, I think keeping keeping Zach Martin
Speaker 1: there in the center of the line might be better
Speaker 1: because I mean, that's where some of those that's where
Speaker 1: some of the blocking is going to need to be.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Terrence Steele is that bad
Speaker 1: of a run blocker. I mean, I think he's decent there.
Speaker 1: I think I think he just doesn't have the feet
Speaker 1: or the techniques really for those quick edge rushers like
Speaker 1: t J. Wat. I kind of think this is going
Speaker 1: to be one of those slow down type of games
Speaker 1: that you do need to run the ball. I think
Speaker 1: you're having a better guard in there might be better.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I would switch this week. Amber,
Speaker 1: and I agree, and I agree with what Dave said.
Speaker 1: I don't know if their strength is really there outside
Speaker 1: of the rush. I think they get the benefit because
Speaker 1: they get the meat there because the pockets always collapse.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the strength really isn't in
Speaker 1: the defensive title. So either way, I mean, I probably
Speaker 1: would keep Zach wary Is in this game. Dave, do
Speaker 1: you have something you rested throwing in there? That's a
Speaker 1: really good point. I guess I'm expecting them to play
Speaker 1: it pretty traditionally, and I mean, I'm sure there will
Speaker 1: be some wildcat snaps, but I still anticipated looking more
Speaker 1: normal than that, which I disagree with. I think they
Speaker 1: should run wildcat every play, but you know, if you're
Speaker 1: going to ask one of these guys to drop back,
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen to twenty times. I feel very bad
Speaker 1: about Terrence Steele dealing with that. Amber. That's an interesting
Speaker 1: point that Nick made in today's point about the wildcat.
Speaker 1: I mean, I find it hard to see that they
Speaker 1: do play so many wildcat plays, you know, like that
Speaker 1: that's difficult to do, especially one you need to be
Speaker 1: successful at. If you are not successful well at the
Speaker 1: plays that you're creating, it's just not gonna work and
Speaker 1: you're not fooling anyone. But going back to your question, one,
Speaker 1: of course, we don't think that sack Martin is gonna
Speaker 1: be moved to tackle, but me personally, I would I
Speaker 1: would like I've been wanting them to move him to
Speaker 1: tackle for several weeks now, but for some reason, they
Speaker 1: keep thinking that's steel, how's it down, and that's their man,
Speaker 1: and okay, good for you guys, protect the quarterback. Let's
Speaker 1: just try to limit injuries from now on. But it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to watch that matchup. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that the interesting thing here is that you have
Speaker 1: to try to make the evaluation of is the difference
Speaker 1: between Steele at tackle and let's say McGovern at guard
Speaker 1: or loony whichever one. What's that delta, because that really
Speaker 1: is what you're what you're playing. Because I think Zach
Speaker 1: Martin will be good at either one. I personally believe
Speaker 1: that that's what I was gonna say, though, do you
Speaker 1: think he would be just as good at tackle as
Speaker 1: we've seen it once this year and he looked really good,
Speaker 1: and see any problems there? So I'll have to Now,
Speaker 1: by the way, Seattle doesn't have a t J. Watt exactly.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going. If you're going up against
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, you're not gonna win all day. You're
Speaker 1: gonna give up something. I don't care who you are.
Speaker 1: If Lyle Collins was out there this week, we'd be
Speaker 1: saying that's a matchup to watch it because he's gonna
Speaker 1: have some challenges there because t J. Watt is that good.
Speaker 1: But that all being said, giving up one sack if
Speaker 1: you're Martin versus giving up three sacks if you're still
Speaker 1: I think that's a sizeable difference. Yeah, one guy that
Speaker 1: needs to really step it up, especially if they do
Speaker 1: Wildcat is be honest, his snaps weren't very good, especially
Speaker 1: the ones to Zeke. It always seemed like they were
Speaker 1: really slow and kind of off centered a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I mean that that's gonna be something that needs
Speaker 1: to be cleaned up too. I mean, if he's gonna
Speaker 1: get the ball, he's gotta get it quickly, all right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break when we come back.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dave, and do we think that Joe, like Tyler,
Speaker 1: be honest, is definitely the starting center? Do we think?
Speaker 1: Do we know? That? Is actually a great question, because
Speaker 1: that is the question I was going to pose when
Speaker 1: we came back from break. So I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: guys a break to tak about it, and then we
Speaker 1: will talk about what we think Joe Looney's role will
Speaker 1: be and what we think is role should be in
Speaker 1: this next game. We'll do that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: to this Cowboys offense. My next question was going to
Speaker 1: be for you guys, as Dave talked about just before
Speaker 1: the break, what do you expect Joe Looney's role to
Speaker 1: be this week and what do you think it should be.
Speaker 1: Let's start first with you Amber. I would imagine it
Speaker 1: to be similar to what we saw last week, and
Speaker 1: what I would like is not going to happen. They
Speaker 1: keep telling I mean, what I think requires a lot
Speaker 1: of shuffling around, and clearly they do not want to
Speaker 1: do that. So I just I don't think they would
Speaker 1: take out Tyler Biadish out of center to plugging Joe
Speaker 1: Looney as a starter again. But then at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of doubtful about that comment. That was a
Speaker 1: unique that brought it up by comming that Joe made
Speaker 1: as he maybe he said next week, I should be
Speaker 1: out there next week. But then as Dave said, where,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, Yeah, somewhere. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is this is tricky because I think it all
Speaker 1: stems down to what like, what are they really trying
Speaker 1: to do? Like, I mean, are you Jerry made it
Speaker 1: clear last week what they're trying to do earlier this
Speaker 1: week when he said they are looking at young guys
Speaker 1: and that's kind of how they're thinking about then the
Speaker 1: rest of the season. Then, from from what I have
Speaker 1: been told, that they do want to keep that core
Speaker 1: of Connor Williams and be Honest and Zach Martin because
Speaker 1: those three are probably going to be the interior of
Speaker 1: the line next year. And if that is the case,
Speaker 1: then that's what I think they do. And I don't
Speaker 1: know where Joe Looney fits into that. Then that's interesting.
Speaker 1: But to be honest with you, I mean, that probably
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Dave, go ahead. I look at
Speaker 1: be Honest the same way I look at Treyvon Diggs.
Speaker 1: He needs to be out there, you know, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, mathematically they're still alive, but they're probably not
Speaker 1: going to win the division. And I know he's not
Speaker 1: gonna get to work with this preferred quarterback, but he
Speaker 1: can still. Reps are good. You need to be getting reps.
Speaker 1: You need to be working on and and he's showed
Speaker 1: enough promise. He's not a liability. So he needs to
Speaker 1: be in there playing and getting better. So I hope
Speaker 1: and that it's no disrespect to Joe Looney. It's just business.
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Looney's got eight games left on his contract.
Speaker 1: Tyler Beatis is a rookie draft pit, so I hope
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't plug him back in. Maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe when he told you that he meant field goal
Speaker 1: team or something, I don't know, um, but or well
Speaker 1: he was if they want to move team, but he
Speaker 1: did well, So yeah, because that's I don't know the
Speaker 1: only guy that did. If they want to move yeah,
Speaker 1: if they want to move Zack to right tackle, I'd
Speaker 1: be fine playing Joe at right guard, but I don't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do that. So yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: unless you're plugging him back in at center. I don't
Speaker 1: know what would makes sense. And I hope you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good idea. And if you're
Speaker 1: talking about playing younger guys like, be honest, than McGovern
Speaker 1: would probably want to be your guy over over loaning
Speaker 1: was Lord knows he needs to play because he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of snaps under his belt. So
Speaker 1: if you want to play young guys. I just you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like a great spot for looney Yep.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the next question. With all
Speaker 1: the tricks that Dallas pulled out last week versus Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: do you think they have to play more of a
Speaker 1: conventional game this week because they've now lost the element
Speaker 1: of surprise Nicholas. Um, You know, I like I like
Speaker 1: the trick plays um when they work. Um, But no,
Speaker 1: I like them. I mean, I think you have to.
Speaker 1: I think you have to do both. You can't just
Speaker 1: line up and beat them. You just can't do it.
Speaker 1: You never saw the teams in the nineties really do
Speaker 1: it because they didn't have to. They just run over
Speaker 1: you and they this team obviously can't do that. So
Speaker 1: I do think you need to trick it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. But but I like to slow down. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, slow down thing um game plan as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm taking my shots, I'm taking some
Speaker 1: reverses I'm doing. You know, I'm definitely gonna do a
Speaker 1: flea flicker for sure. Um, But you know, every game
Speaker 1: at least once. But yeah, I would, I would do
Speaker 1: some of those tricks. I still would. Dave how many.
Speaker 1: I hate to put anybody on the spot, but how
Speaker 1: many trick players do we think they ran last week?
Speaker 1: Like five? Maybe? On what you're calling a trick play, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you're calling a reverse or
Speaker 1: double reverse a trick player, those are, but they're relatively
Speaker 1: common in the NFL now, right, Not for this team,
Speaker 1: You're right, not for this more of the Cowboys though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I would My point, my point being, if
Speaker 1: you're an NFL offensive coordinator and that's all you can
Speaker 1: come up with, like you you shouldn't be one. Like
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, they they emptied the playbook, like
Speaker 1: I hope not. I hope. I hope you listens more
Speaker 1: of those and maybe they would never see the light
Speaker 1: of day. But like, that's what football coaches do. They
Speaker 1: draw up plays while they're eating lunch. That's what that's
Speaker 1: fun for them. So I would hope Kellen Moore's got
Speaker 1: a lot more left in the bag, and they absolutely
Speaker 1: need to do it, you know, they need to. The
Speaker 1: Wildcat needs to be part of this. Some trick plays
Speaker 1: and not even real trick plays. That's a great point, Derek,
Speaker 1: Like a jet sweep in twenty twenty is not a
Speaker 1: trick play. It's something you should be doing anyway. You
Speaker 1: should be doing it all the time. And the other
Speaker 1: fun thing is, you know, like I bring up the
Speaker 1: rams all the time because I admire them so much.
Speaker 1: Like all you have to do is change the formation
Speaker 1: that you run the same play out of, Like you
Speaker 1: can run the exact same play and move a guy
Speaker 1: to the other side of the formation and it's completely different.
Speaker 1: So it shouldn't be that hard to trick this thing
Speaker 1: up again. And if they think that they're gonna win
Speaker 1: playing traditionally, they got another thing coming. So yes, they
Speaker 1: need to be doing it again and again and again.
Speaker 1: Da I mean, Nick say, I got trick play? Was
Speaker 1: that this this will work. I've seen it work before,
Speaker 1: all right, stat liberty. No, it's fourth and one and
Speaker 1: you're at midfield and you're like, are they really gonna
Speaker 1: snap this? Are they gonna snap it? Maybe they will,
Speaker 1: maybe they won't. And the guy goes up there, whoever
Speaker 1: it is, Rush or Gilbert, just like hut hut, I mean,
Speaker 1: really try to do it like ten times in a row,
Speaker 1: stand up, walk yourself to the line, to walk yourself
Speaker 1: like you're gonna call it time out. Snap at Zeke
Speaker 1: because by that time those linemen are tired of being
Speaker 1: in their stants and they kind of see the quarterback
Speaker 1: walk off. It's all you need. Snap at Zeke first down.
Speaker 1: I've seen it work, it has worked before. Do it?
Speaker 1: You want to see it? Kellen, listen? All right? Rather
Speaker 1: see that or a flee flicker? And well, I want
Speaker 1: to see the fleeflicker. But I'm telling you this, if
Speaker 1: that happens and they score a touchdown, like my phone
Speaker 1: will break like it'll I mean every flicker. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: every time if Cincinnati's playing Tulsa on a Thursday night
Speaker 1: and then somebody runs a fleeflicker, I get mentions, like
Speaker 1: a lot of them. So if the Cowboys ever running
Speaker 1: when Jason Garrett, seriously, Jason Garrett waited twelve years for
Speaker 1: you to do that, you come back here and throw
Speaker 1: a flee flicker. All right, let's see if we can
Speaker 1: get one or two fan questions here before we end
Speaker 1: the show. Amber, what do you got? Well, speaking of
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, this is a pretty blunt question, and since
Speaker 1: I don't have to answer it, I'm just gonna throw it,
Speaker 1: y'all's away. So after everything that we've seen so far
Speaker 1: this year. Could it be the Jason Garrett possibly was
Speaker 1: not the one necessarily to blame for the results that
Speaker 1: they've had in previous years. Dave, I want to take that.
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid that. I'm not afraid to answer the question.
Speaker 1: I'm just perplexed, like why it's being asked in the
Speaker 1: first place. I guess, like, yes, he was the head
Speaker 1: coach for a decade, Like everything, everything that goes wrong
Speaker 1: falls on you when you're the head coach. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Cowboys, you know, we hesitate to say effort,
Speaker 1: but like the Cowboys had these mental problems last year.
Speaker 1: They got their butts kicked half a dozen times. People
Speaker 1: are like, they never quit on Jason Garrett. Like they
Speaker 1: got destroyed four or five times last year, like Buffalo
Speaker 1: and Chicago just dragged them up and down the field.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they went eight and eight and
Speaker 1: didn't have nearly the injury problems that they're having right now. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: this season's going poorly. It's about as bad of a
Speaker 1: start for Mike McCarthy as you could ask for. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't magically make the problems of the Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: era go away. Yeah. The fact the matter is the
Speaker 1: head coach is responsible for the result, probably more than
Speaker 1: anybody else in the franchise and or on the team
Speaker 1: at least. And so the way I look at it
Speaker 1: is if you're if they played bad last year, yes,
Speaker 1: Jason was the problem. He was at least part of
Speaker 1: a major part of the problem. By the way, that
Speaker 1: also means that this year Mike McCarthy has to take
Speaker 1: his slumps for being a part of the problem because
Speaker 1: they are two and six. So yes, absolutely, last year
Speaker 1: Jason was a part of the problem, and absolutely this
Speaker 1: year Mike McCarthy's part of the problem. That's the point
Speaker 1: of a head point coach. You have to figure out
Speaker 1: when things aren't going right, how to write the ship
Speaker 1: and how to get your team to play above their heads.
Speaker 1: If you can't do that, then you're not doing your
Speaker 1: job well enough. And I think most coaches will tell
Speaker 1: you that. They'll admit that that is their job. That's
Speaker 1: in the job description. You're responsible for the final result.
Speaker 1: I'll leave us with this and if we're done here
Speaker 1: this I got a tweet easily. Don't take these tweets
Speaker 1: to the air, but this is from the handle it's
Speaker 1: this defense can't tackle. That's the name of the handle.
Speaker 1: And it says, man, who would you want to start
Speaker 1: on Sunday? Garrett or Cooper? And then he says, man,
Speaker 1: Jones is really love Jason Garrett. One quarterback has his
Speaker 1: last name, the other one looks like him. And with that,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys joining us. We will be back
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. I'll let you know what will happen Sunday
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Steelers. It is a three thirty kickoff at
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. Till then for Nick Eatman, Dave
Speaker 1: Helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been
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