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Speaker 1: Can't find AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: what you missed. And I was just googling online looking

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Speaker 2: for if anybody ever did any news on the guy.

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Speaker 2: We just played the interview of Stan Slankowski, who was

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Speaker 2: set on fire by a woman on the metro train

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Speaker 2: two years ago. Couldn't find a single single follow up story.

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Speaker 2: There was one story in the La Times what had happened,

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Speaker 2: and it covered his attack for about four paragraphs, and

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Speaker 2: that was it. Can't find anything else, just as if

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Speaker 2: it ever happened. You imagine you're sitting at you're sitting

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Speaker 2: is coming home from a concert and a crazy woman,

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Speaker 2: homeless person of course, walks on, sprays gasoline on him,

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Speaker 2: sets him on fire. It's in the news for like

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Speaker 2: in the news department's care. That's a crime victim. We

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Speaker 2: don't care. Well, at least she's been locked up. I

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Speaker 2: guess she's in some sort of mental health confinement and

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Speaker 2: they're trying to determine how competent she is. Well, clearly,

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Speaker 2: if she's setting people on fire, she's probably not competent.

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Speaker 2: Just lock her up in a mental institution until she dies.

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Speaker 2: That's the proper way to handle that. Let's talk now

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Speaker 2: about is difficult to start a small business in California.

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Speaker 2: And if you're on a small business, you know this.

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Speaker 2: Taxes are incredibly high, regulations are endless than many of them,

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Speaker 2: don't make any sense. Everything costs more crime. Now you

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Speaker 2: know people busting in and stealing stuff all the time.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to arrest them, Nobody wants to put them

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Speaker 2: in jail, Nobody wants to stop any of this. Republican

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Speaker 2: lawmakers have had a press conference this week, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk with Senator Janet and When from Win

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Speaker 2: from Honey to Beach about a series of bills to

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Speaker 2: try to help small businesses survive in southern California. Unless

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Speaker 2: you have one, you have no idea how incredibly difficult

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Speaker 2: it is. Let's get Senator went on, Janet, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you John for having me.

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Speaker 1: Talk about a little more detail.

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Speaker 2: I just get the headline there of the problems small

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Speaker 1: What it's like, Well, it's.

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Speaker 3: What years we usually you've just stated. I mean when

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Speaker 3: you have a small business and these mass and grabs.

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Speaker 3: The laws that the Stay of California has downgraded selling

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Speaker 3: me theft to misdemeanors that was fourteen years ago with

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Speaker 3: you know Pop forty seven in twenty fourteen, where it

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Speaker 3: are just really protecting criminals. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think most people have heard

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Speaker 2: about the first law that you mentioned, that that Assembly

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Speaker 2: bill they passed which turned felony theft into a misdemeanor,

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Speaker 2: so anybody can walk into any read How does it

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Speaker 2: differ from Prop forty seven?

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Speaker 1: What was what? Why was it so significant?

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Speaker 3: So when? So what they did was in fourteen years

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Speaker 3: that included not just selling me THEEF. It's now shoplifting

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Speaker 3: has now become a misdemeanor as well.

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Speaker 2: Right and shoplisting both both became misdemeanors.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it's all under nine hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 3: So if you go into the target and you decide

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Speaker 1: And you can do this several times a day.

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Speaker 3: You can do it several times a day, different stores.

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Speaker 2: Different stories, so you can hit an endless number of

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Speaker 2: So it's it's and I guess it took a little while,

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. The good news is, though, is that

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Speaker 3: this week the Republican Caucus, myself and many of our colleagues,

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Speaker 3: We've introduced lots of legislation this week, package of bills

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Speaker 3: it applies to two people more who steals merchandise with

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Speaker 2: Right, are any of the bills that Newsome and the

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I think it's more window dressing.

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Speaker 3: The good news though, is that you know, the governor

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the root cause, as they like

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Speaker 1: Nobody. That's the official policy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no point if you if you call a police,

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Speaker 2: No people have complained about thefts or burglaries and the

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Speaker 2: police say we'll fill out a report online. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: Nobody even reads the reports?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know this John California at this

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Speaker 3: Criminals are protected over us as residents and citizens of

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Speaker 2: I know. And it's what they This was their intent.

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Speaker 2: I keep saying. It's like, this is not incompetence, this

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Speaker 2: They're not upset about it. They're not losing sleep on it.

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Speaker 3: It is it is. I mean, if you think about

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Speaker 3: We don't see horrifying images of people hammers making to

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what's disturbing.

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Speaker 2: I was talking with somebody about this, how human nature

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Speaker 2: It's like there's a heartbeat out there. All right, well

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Speaker 2: and you go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know right now the people in

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Speaker 3: California needs to stand up and say enough is enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: enough of window dressing these bills, enough of just spending

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Speaker 3: clean up California. We need to allow our children and

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I wish you luck with these bills.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe since it's an election year, some of

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Speaker 1: All Right, thanks again for coming on, Jennet.

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Speaker 3: So much done.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jenet win and she's a Republican state centered

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Speaker 2: from Huntington Beach. When we come back. It has gotten

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Speaker 2: so bad now at some in San Francisco. Well, one

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Speaker 2: an employee escort.

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Speaker 1: Not to shop with an escort, but shop anyway what.

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Speaker 2: An employee escort, so that the escort can make sure

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Speaker 2: We're on from one until four after four o'clock John

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Speaker 2: what you missed. I've never heard of this before, but

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Speaker 2: almost every day now in this wacky state, you hear

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Speaker 2: a news story from San Francisco from KRON Channel four TV.

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Speaker 1: Up there, Dan Thorn.

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Speaker 2: This is about a hardware store that will only take

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Speaker 2: one customer. At a time, and they supply an escort

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Speaker 5: Listen to this for a few hours every day. This

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Speaker 5: is what you'll find entering Frederickson's Hardware and Paint in

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Speaker 5: rampant shoplifting.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty bad.

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Speaker 6: I mean the dollar amounts are pretty significant, and with

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Speaker 6: the tools and now we're getting snatched and grabs where

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Speaker 5: Store manager Sam Black says, for two hours in the

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Speaker 5: morning and two hours in the evening, an employee will

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Speaker 5: work with an individual customer. The table serves us a

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Speaker 5: way to keep potential thieves for moving freely in and

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Speaker 6: We just want to make it uncomfortable for the thieves

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Speaker 6: so they go somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: Black says, over his twenty four years of working at Fredericson's,

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Speaker 5: the theft is the worst it has ever been. Staff

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Speaker 5: has had to drill down poss and pins to keep

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Speaker 5: the situation is just sad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people aren't happy.

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Speaker 2: Did you guys go together? Because she doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: You know how this works.

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Speaker 2: You're supposed to put down, well, in this case, your

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Speaker 2: You're so confused. You glazed over. I glazed over. You

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Speaker 2: The candidate that comes in fourth is out. Okay, But

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Speaker 2: then the third candidate, now you have a three person raise.

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Speaker 2: This is not America, this is not democracy. Person with

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Speaker 7: You're gonna wonder why people don't want to vote.

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Speaker 1: That gives me a headache. Just try, just trying to describe.

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Speaker 7: They gave me a fy it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The worst breed of human being, the most diseased vermin

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Speaker 2: amongst us are political consultants, and London Breed has somebody

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Speaker 2: Breed is a disaster of a mayor. Seventy percent disapprove

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Speaker 2: to Muir. Mayor Bred continues to boldly lead the city's

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 2: Coming up at three o'clock after a debverish three o'clock news,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Freddie Escobar. He's with the

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Speaker 2: United Firefighters of the Los Angeles City. They are mobilizing.

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Speaker 2: They're opposing a referendum that's on the LA City ballot.

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Speaker 2: It's called Measure h LA. This is this horrible, preposterous

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Speaker 2: Taking bikes in San Francisco, so hilly stuff. Taking bikes

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Speaker 2: Said, Gemini claimed it was unable to generate images of

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Speaker 2: a white person, but if you asked for a picture

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Speaker 2: of a black family, that was okay. They talked to

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Speaker 2: this woke hall. Jack Kratchik, Senior director of Product Management

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Speaker 2: at Gemini. We're working to improve these kinds of depictions immediately.

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Speaker 2: Gemini's AI image generation does generate a wide range of people,

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Speaker 2: and that's generally good thing because people around the world

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Speaker 2: use it, but it's missing the market. Can you imagine

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Speaker 2: how many people do you think were involved in creating

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Speaker 2: this artificial intelligence program, and then it had to be

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Speaker 2: supervised and then approved and then released. You cannot beat

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Speaker 2: a white person's photo or a white person's image out

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Speaker 2: of Google AI.

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Speaker 7: What if you do a mixed family, Show me a

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Speaker 7: mixed race family.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I bet you they do that. Well, maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: they would only show you the non white members. Though

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Speaker 2: true white people don't exist with Google AI. They should

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Speaker 2: get the bud light treatment. You gotta delete your Google Search.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is really but I mean then it

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Speaker 2: got comical by not giving you a white German Nazi.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: They go bang my head against the wall, not that

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Speaker 1: it would do any good.

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Speaker 2: All right, after three o'clock, you've got to vote no

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Speaker 2: on Measure HLA in the City of Los Angeles. No

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Speaker 2: on Measure HLA, or you will have endless traffic for

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Speaker 2: the rest of your life. They're gonna turn over perfectly

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Speaker 2: good traffic lanes and turn them into useless, stupid bike lanes.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: I can't even promote this thing coming up because I

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Speaker 2: get all wound up all over again. I'll just say plainly,

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Speaker 2: the president of the United Firefighters of La City. Freddy

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Speaker 2: Escobar is coming on with us because all the firefighters,

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Speaker 2: the whole fire department is against this Measure HLA, which

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Speaker 2: are good, which is gonna turn traffic lanes on major

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Speaker 2: boulevards in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do road diets and turn them into bike lanes.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna lose a lot of lanes, a lot of

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Speaker 2: traffic's gonna get squeezed from three to two two to

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Speaker 2: one lane. It's going to cause back up. We went

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Speaker 2: through this, We already went through this. It's a failure,

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Speaker 2: it's no good. But these these these climate change bike

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Speaker 2: fanatic a holes who don't want us to live in

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Speaker 2: single family homes and have lawns and have swimming pools

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Speaker 2: and drive cars gas powered cars and god, and they

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Speaker 2: financed with a lot of money. What a bunch of jackasses.

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Speaker 2: So Measure h LA has to be stopped here. Uh

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Speaker 2: that's uh, that's going to come up after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: This is very sad news for vegans. What well did

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Speaker 2: you hear?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: And Costa Mesa, an all vegan restaurant known as veged,

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Speaker 2: familiar with this.

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Speaker 7: I I I saw the story I've never.

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Speaker 2: Been v e g apostrophe d veged Yeah, ed plant

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Speaker 2: based drive through restaurant. A well known chef named Matthew Kenny.

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Speaker 2: He's been nominated for the James Beard Award, very prestigious award. Well, well,

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Speaker 2: vegan is that's not really cooking, is it. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's just throwing plants and weeds on a plate.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's like you do a stir fry, but you bake.

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Speaker 1: Pulling plants out of the ground and.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, their official announcement said, We're incredibly grateful for your support.

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Speaker 2: We want to assure you this decision was not taking

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Speaker 2: lightly due to excessive and unsustainable rent and other multiple

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Speaker 2: determining factors like maybe lack of customers because there aren't

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Speaker 2: that many people who eat this way.

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Speaker 7: How do you know that?

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Speaker 5: Have you?

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Speaker 7: Have you done a study?

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Speaker 1: It clothes?

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Speaker 7: I know, but that doesn't mean that there it's not

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Speaker 7: because there aren't any vegans or enough vegans.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not doing enough business, so they're not making

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Speaker 2: enough money, so there aren't enough vegans to spend money.

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Speaker 7: If the unsustainable rent, the high cost of rent is the.

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Speaker 2: Reason Donald's has high rent, not enough people are spending money,

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Speaker 2: so they can't make the rent.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you guys think the way you want.

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Speaker 1: Well, gladly, there's a reason we think this way, because

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Speaker 1: it's right.

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Speaker 2: This used to be a Del Taco at the corner

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Speaker 2: of Bristol Street and Redhill Avenue, Coasta Mesa.

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Speaker 7: And well it used to be a Del Taco. Well

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Speaker 7: what happened to the Del Taco was.

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Speaker 1: Well, Del Taco's not that good in my opinion, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's not. It's inferior.

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Speaker 2: They have, but things that are bad should go out

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Speaker 2: of business. They serve breakfast sandwiches, burritos, hamburgers.

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Speaker 1: It's not a hamburger. If there's no.

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Speaker 2: Beef inside chicken sandwiches, all right, it's not chicken.

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Speaker 1: What is it then?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's what I call fake meat.

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Speaker 2: How many people like drive up to a place like

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Speaker 2: this and they see hamburgers, chicken sandwiches, they order it,

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Speaker 2: and then and they bite into some Well.

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Speaker 7: Then they don't understand that it's a vegan restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Oh and and they're really annoying too.

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Speaker 2: Veged also featured biodegradable and compostable packaging theyd with recycled material.

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Speaker 7: Why is that annoying?

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Speaker 1: That's annoying. Why they think they're morally superior.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they superior. They're just trying to do

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Speaker 7: what they think is a good job.

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Speaker 2: You know they do. Vegans judge meat eaters. Meat eaters, la.

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Speaker 7: Vegaly judge meat eaters. I just don't eat meat. But hey,

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Speaker 7: you do you and all do me.

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Speaker 1: You secretly you judge us maybe a little.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, we know how much you judge vegans.

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Speaker 1: Here's no, no, we mock thegan We're not judging them.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, well maybe I mock meat eaters.

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Speaker 2: Then here's another one that's uh uh. There's the California

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Speaker 2: Assembly and Matt Haney wants to pass a bill that

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Speaker 2: would make it much easier to rent an apartment with

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Speaker 2: a pet. Pet owners have a hard time finding apartments. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of landlords don't want dogs and cats because

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Speaker 2: they poop and peel all So then.

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Speaker 7: You just you charge a large deposit.

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Speaker 2: So Hane's proposal would end blanket bands on specific pets.

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Speaker 2: It's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: The bill.

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Speaker 2: You can't ask about pet ownership until a tenants application

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Speaker 2: has been approved.

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Speaker 7: And I'll tell you why, because because there are so

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Speaker 7: many animals in shelters. Right, So if you do have

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Speaker 7: people that are going to shelters and not buying dogs

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Speaker 7: like some people Ray Lopez, So that right, so they're

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Speaker 7: going to clean out the shelters. But if they're not

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Speaker 7: allowed to bring those dogs or their cats with them

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Speaker 7: to apartments, right, they're being judged because they have a

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Speaker 7: pet and they're not alone. It's not then the shelters

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Speaker 7: are never going to get empty.

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Speaker 1: It's not your apartment.

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Speaker 7: Were charging it to get it? I get it. That's

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Speaker 7: why you charge a hefty deposit. So if there's poop

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Speaker 7: and pee and damage, then when they move out, you

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Speaker 7: can you have the money to clean it up.

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Speaker 2: Only twenty one percent of rentals in San Francisco allow pets,

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Speaker 2: only twenty six percent Los Angeles, and pet owners are

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Speaker 2: over two thirds of renters.

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Speaker 7: I can't tell you how many next door messages that

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Speaker 7: I see about people saying that they're moving someplace and

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Speaker 7: they don't allow pets, and so they're trying to rehome

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Speaker 7: their pets. It's really sad. So maybe this would crack

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Speaker 7: down on that.

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Speaker 2: You know, there wouldn't be so many cats and dogs

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Speaker 2: if the cats and dogs would just stop adding the

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Speaker 2: sex for a while.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I mean.

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Speaker 2: They got to get well, yeah, they got to get

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Speaker 2: some self control here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's not going to happen, so us humans

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Speaker 7: have to take care of that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of humans should stop having sex.

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Speaker 7: That's another story.

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Speaker 1: There's too many people. So I didn't I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that most apartments don't allow dogs and cats.

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Speaker 1: I remember.

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Speaker 2: I remember we rented an upstairs apartment at a house

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Speaker 2: back in New Jersey when my wife and I first

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Speaker 2: got together, and we had a cat, and we snuck

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Speaker 2: the cat in. We put it in its container, and

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Speaker 2: then we threw a towel over the container, and we

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Speaker 2: had a code name for it. I think we called

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Speaker 2: it the watermelon or the cantlope. Yeah, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: who's got the candlelope? Who's carrying the cantlope? And we

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Speaker 2: carried it in and nobody knew it was there. Our

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Speaker 2: landlers didn't know it was there, except the cats started

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Speaker 2: curling up on the window sill.

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Speaker 1: No, they were nice and they liked this, so they

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Speaker 1: let it go. They never brought it up.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 7: See, now if this bill passes, people will not have

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Speaker 7: to hide their pets. They won't have to lie or

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Speaker 7: you won't have to be deceitful.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna fall in over an apartment and

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Speaker 2: then then they'll find out you have a pet, and

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Speaker 2: then they'll send the office exactly. Yeah, more coming up.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to talk to the official with.

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Speaker 1: ELA. Let me get the name of it right here

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Speaker 1: too much in.

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Speaker 2: Front of President Freddie Escobar United Firefighters of La City.

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Speaker 2: The firefighters are saying, no, I measure HLA in Los Angeles. No,

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Speaker 2: because it's gonna turn car lanes into bike lanes or

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Speaker 2: curbing lanes. It's gonna it's road dieting, road diets. You'll

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Speaker 2: be in traffic for the rest of your life. It'll

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Speaker 2: be ten times worse than it is now. You'll see

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Speaker 2: it's coming up. Deborah Mark live in the twenty four

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