1 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. 2 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: All Right, how is everybody doing. We're here at the 3 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: midweek mark Chris Brown, Steve Tasker One Bill's Live as 4 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: we close in on two weeks from Draft day, and 5 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: we are just chock full of draft discussion. We'll have 6 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: more of that here on today's show. It's funny because 7 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: people that listen to our show, they say to me, 8 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: how do you guys come up with all these different 9 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: ways to talk about the draft? We got three hundred 10 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: and fifty prospects, oh, you know, a bevy of different positions. 11 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it's we're not just talking about 12 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: the Bills and their needs for the draft. We're talking 13 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: about all these prospects and if they'd be a fit 14 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: for the Bills too. So right, the discussions are endless. 15 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got all kinds of it. I and you're 16 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: the same way. You know, again, we've been here forever. 17 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: You've been here for decades. I've been here for decades. 18 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: We have friends everywhere around town, and and they know me, 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: they know my wife, you know, they or your wife. 20 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: And so my wife says, well, you got to tell 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: me what you're talking about on the show. What'd you 22 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: talk about on the show today? I go, what do 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: you mean? She goes, well, because people are asking all 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: our friends are asking me, Hey, what's Steve think about 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: the draft? What's Steve think about this and that and that? 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: And she goes, I gotta know, so I have a stuck. 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: She goes, what was the show about today? I go, 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: it was about the bills and the NFL and stuff. 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: That's about it. 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: It's sometimes my my wife will tell me, all right, 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to the office tomorrow. This is like the 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: day after a game. Can you just give me the 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: cliff notes right on? 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: Don't want to sound like they don't know right there's pressure. 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: There's pressure there. Speaking of pressure, you were in a 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: little bit of a hot seat last night in between 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: the benches at the game. 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: Let me say this, what fun? It was so fun. 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I've been here, I've been in 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 3: town for what you know, thirty almost forty years, and 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: to do a game on the you know, on the 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: ice basically with Razor it was great. Man, What a 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: fun thing. 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: This is the one thing that crossed my mind. Got 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: to make sure you hit the bathroom before you go. 46 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: There's there's no exit. 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: There's two half times though, there's two half times. 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: Yes, you have two intermissions. Yeah, but you're locked in though, like, 49 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: don't be pounding water. You can't get out. You can't 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: get out of there. That's what I'm saying. 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: We got to go through the Sabers bench Erry to 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: get off. 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're locked in. 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're stuck there. But I mean it's sill like 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: everything else. You're on the air, But you're right, but. 56 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: Take a bathroom break before take another one half. 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: Like I said, the intermission, the halftimes, which are third 58 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: times or whatever. Yeah, intermissions got plenty of time. 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: How much So how much time do you guys get 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: would you say in between periods before you have to 61 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: get back in position there for the next. 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: Like uh, probably it's like a halftime of an NFL game, 63 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: like ten minutes, twelve minutes something like that. Okay, and 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: we come you know, was just here and you come 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: back out a couple of minutes early, and you know, 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: Marty and Duffer do the halftime, right, Well, I say 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: the half. I'm just forgetting. I'm just calling that halftime 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: the Marty and Duffer do the halftime, and so Razor 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: and I just go head back into the tunnel, you know, 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: get a drink, bathroom break, chit chat. 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: Did uh did he try to pull any fast ones 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: on you? You know, like having never been down there before, 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: did he have any kind of no. 74 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: No, But because you know he's good for that. Sometimes 75 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: I'll say this, there's not much room in that thing. 76 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: So it's like if the puck's coming in, not much 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: space to duck. And they built an extra wall inside 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: the boards so that you can't stand right up against 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 3: the boards, right, so you you got like a foot 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: and not a little over foot to stand back. Even 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: if you lean in, you gotta so when and if 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: the puck goes in the near side boards in either corner, 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: you can't see it. So I caught myself like leaning 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: like you know, I'm a fanboy, right, I'm watching a game, 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: so I'm leaning out what's going on, and I'm thinking, 86 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: and I thought to myself, that's crazy. Just back because 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: we got he's got monitors there, we got the scoreboards 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: right there, and with a new scoreboard, there's a screen, right, 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I gotta stop doing that because you know, 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: and I'll say this too. I said it on the 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: broadcast last night. You kind of get if you watch hockey, 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: you kind of understand hockey, right, and so there's some 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: stuff there, you know, the physicality. Guys getting a couple 94 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: of nice checks in the boards last night. But that's 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: for even for a football player, you know, that's kind 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: of you know, it's a pro sport. The thing that 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: I told Razor on the air, I go, dude, nobody 98 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: gets credit for this. Blocking shots. We were right right 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: before the end of the period, Sabers goes down blocks it. 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: I guess I can't remember which guy was blocks a shot, 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: and we're right, I'm right behind the shooter. The you know, 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 3: the Carolina guy he hits a slapper from inside the 103 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: blue line is in during the second period and guy 104 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: goes Malensteine goes down in front of it and blocks it. 105 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: I was like, you could not pay me to get in. 106 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: Front of different kind of intestines. 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was. It was like standing in 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: front of a cannon shot. 109 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: It's like, am I losing teeth on this one? 110 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's so dangous. It looks so dangerous. I mean, 111 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: it's that to me was the quintessential startling moment. When 112 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: I saw a guy, you know, cause you see guys 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: on the TV and they go out there and they 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: get skinnier, they try and you know, they're try and 115 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: get in the way. That shot comes off there and 116 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Dolleen got whacked last night just above the the skate laces. 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: He limps off and that you could man it that, 118 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: That to me. 119 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: Was the melvinized rubber does not feel good? 120 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: Right? That was the miles an hour startling thing about 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: the whole experience was watching a guy block a shot 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: point blank and and just taking it. Oh, that's amazing. 123 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: It was really amazing. But what a fun night it was. 124 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: It was so fun, you know. And obviously, and I 125 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: tell this too, the broadcast was fantastic because hey it's 126 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: three nothing win. How you're gonna mess that up? 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 4: Right? 128 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: And uh could have been more? Yeah, it was. It 129 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: was a such a fun night. I can't say enough 130 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: good things about the experience. 131 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: Was it was it a little cooler down there, a 132 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: little chillier being I didn't. 133 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: Notice because I had flop sweat going. You know, I 134 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: didn't know if I was. I was nervous. I don't 135 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: want to mess it up, you know, so I was 136 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: I was, you know, nervous, And it's funny, I wasn't 137 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: really nervous, but yeah, I didn't. I didn't notice it 138 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: because I was, you know, kind of had the adrenaline 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: pump going. 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. It was cool. We 141 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: were watching it was very cool. It's a good analysis, 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: I thought. So, yeah, it was good. 143 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: And I'll say that the thing that I noticed that 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: you can't really tell the further away you get from 145 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: the ice, and of course on television and stuff, you 146 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: can feel the ebb and flow and the tension of 147 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: the guys playing the game in regards to the other 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: team and each other. You know, you can feel it. 149 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: That was really really unique, really fun. You could feel 150 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: the ebb and flow of the emotions and the intensity 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: of the game and who was carrying it. It didn't 152 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: and the team who had the momentum didn't necessarily have 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: to have the puck, which was a revelation for me. 154 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: The nuance of being right there and we'll listen to 155 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: these and watching it and we're right there, So why 156 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: is watching guys come on and off the ice and 157 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: you could see their ace and the last little looks 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: and glances at each other and the talk, you know, 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: it was. It was amazing, really amazing, all. 160 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: Right, So I really see that. 161 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: Thanks to the Yeah, thanks to the Sabers for letting 162 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: me do that, and thanks to you know, Joe Penner 163 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: and the broadcast grew. Razor was awesome. Man, we've been 164 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: we've been Razor and I. You can imagine we've been 165 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: friendly for decades. So it was fun. 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 167 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely a blast, Absolutely a blast. 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Let's get to some Bills notes. As we know, it 169 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: is pre draft visit season and Tennessee defensive tackle Omar 170 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: Norman Lott scheduled to visit the Bills this week. As 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: reported by NFL Network seeing Rapaport, he's visited a bunch 172 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: of teams, Titans, Niners, Steelers, Chiefs, Browns, So he is 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: making the rounds and that was a player when we 174 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: went over defensive tackles that Greg co cell liked little 175 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: little more of the three technique defensive tackles six two 176 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: two ninety one. People are thinking, because he's a little 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: bit shorter than you'd like, that he might get to date. 178 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: He's probably going to get to Day two and come 179 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: off the board there somewhere. But with all these teams interested, 180 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: it's probably second round at worst for him. 181 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Most of these guys are going 182 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: to the guys who go to a lot of teams 183 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: are the ones who he thinks of they're going to 184 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: be a pro, but they're not going to be a 185 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: first round or so. Every team's going to get a 186 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: look at him at some point. That's why did some 187 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: of these guys get like twelve of these visits. Yeah, 188 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: like you know Shudur Sanderson, cam Ward, cam Ward will 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: take three visits, right, you know, he'll take you Giants, Titans, 190 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: Browns at the top of the draft. Some of these guys, 191 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: every team's going to get a look at him and 192 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: they want to know them, you know. That's that's the 193 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: interesting thing. 194 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: Then there are players that will be brought in for 195 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: a pre draft visit for varying reasons, some at the 196 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: back end of the draft, because maybe it's a player 197 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: they caught on too late and just uncovered and said, oh, 198 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: you know what, we really got to take a hard 199 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: look at this guy as a Day three option. And 200 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: the Draft Network is reporting that the Bills have met 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: with Auburn wide receiver KeAndre Lambert Smith with a pre 202 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: draft visit. He's also meeting with the Patriots today, with 203 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: other meetings scheduled for Arizona and Baltimore. Now, Lambert Smith, 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: I think is widely seen as a Day three pick, 205 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: but he's one of those receivers that has some gas 206 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: four to three seven. He ran at the Combine and 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, has some physical traits that will probably get 208 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: him an opportunity in the NFL as a Day three 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: draft pick. And sometimes teams that maybe haven't done as 210 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: much drilling down on some late round options maybe target 211 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: a handful and say, look, we got to get more 212 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: work done on this guy. He slipped through the cracks. 213 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Let's make sure we know what we would be getting, 214 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: and they would bring a player in for that. I've 215 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: even seen some teams bring in players who are likely 216 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: to be undrafted just to make a connect with the player, because, 217 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: as you know, Steve, after the draft is over, it's 218 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: like Keystone Cops. Every team has their scouting department burning 219 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: up the phone lines, calling undrafted prospects to try to 220 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: fill out their offseason roster. And if you've made a 221 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: connection with that player by having them in for a 222 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: pre draft visit, sometimes it can tip the scales in 223 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: your favor. I've seen gms do that. 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: It's been my experience as well that that's where your 225 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: agent really makes his money. It really helps a guy, 226 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: particularly a guy at the end of the draft or 227 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: a preferred free agent, rookie free agent where the club, 228 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: even if the club hasn't made it, they call that 229 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: agent and that guy, you know, smooths it over and say, yeah, 230 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: I got you. You know, my kid's good. He's gonna 231 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: this kind of gid this kind of This is what 232 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: I feedback I've been getting. They and they can do 233 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: that anytime. They can call the agents anytime. And so 234 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 3: if you got an agent who has like six guys, 235 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: he'll touch base with a lot of different teams. So 236 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: I also represent this guy and this guy and this guy. 237 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: So that's you're right, it is. I I thought I 238 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: was going to go through it as a player. My 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: son did go through it as a college kid, as 240 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: an undrafted kid. And I mean, the draft is over 241 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: and the phone seconds later is ringing with this team, 242 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: that team, that team. It it's the Wild West. Yeah. 243 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: I was fortunate enough when I was doing reporting for 244 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills dot Com to sit in the Bill's draft 245 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: room on three separate occasions, and I'm in there and 246 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: I have all these story ideas about what I'm gonna 247 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: do to cover the happenings in the draft room over 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: three days. My biggest feature was on what went down 249 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: after the draft was over. Yeah, because watching that, it's 250 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: like Wall Street, just guys yelling across get ahold of 251 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: this guy. Did we get the receiver? Yeah, okay, cross 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: him off, like you know, they got a board up 253 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: at the front. We need two receivers, three DB's like 254 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: to fill out the offseason roster. And it is going. 255 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: It is. 256 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: There are forty people on phones. 257 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: It's the quintessential free market. 258 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, and it's in action right in front 259 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: of you. 260 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: Yes, and it is, and it is. It's fritting about it, man. 261 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: It is hopes and dreams being bought and sold and 262 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: and just signed off on it. 263 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: People think the scouting department's job's over when the draft ends. 264 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, Charlie. 265 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 266 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: It's just getting started. 267 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: And it's it's exciting because well, yeah, as exciting as 268 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: the draft is for the guys at the top of 269 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: the draft, it's also exciting for those guys who know 270 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: that there's got some interest out there, but they don't 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: get drafted, and then you get. 272 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: A you know, now they get to pick. 273 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: Yes, they're free agents, and that's that. 274 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: They can look for an advantageous spot. If their agent's 275 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: doing his homework, it's the best. He's got a receiver. 276 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: He knows which rosters are short on receivers to give 277 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: his guy a better chance to make the roster. 278 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 279 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, there is a lot of jockeying for position 280 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: for signing bonus. Oh you want my guy that bad? Well, 281 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: the signing bonus is thirty k right for an undrafted 282 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: guy like you know. So, yeah, it's really interesting to 283 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: see that unfold. 284 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: And you say, listen, why already got the call from 285 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: three three other teams, So I'm what he got. 286 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of Day three prospects, Pro Football Focus did best 287 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: team fits on Day three, and for the Bills, they 288 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: chose Nevada safety Catan Crawford. Here's what they wrote about him. 289 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: With seven picks on day three, the Bills could take 290 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: several chances on raw, high upside players in hopes of 291 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: unearthing a gym. Crawford is a top tier athlete who 292 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: posted top three marks at the Combine in nearly every measurement. 293 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: He has plenty to improve on defensively with just one 294 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: season as a starter, but he really shines on special teams, 295 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: where he logged more than one thousand snaps during his 296 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: college career. I looked up his workout at the Combine. 297 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: He ran a four to four one forty hit twenty 298 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: three point three miles an hour for a top speed 299 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: forty one and a half inch vertical, four to zero 300 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: three shuttle time, six' eight to one three cone. Drill 301 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: those are all top. Tier, yeah especially the vertical forty 302 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: one and a half good grief and all those snaps 303 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: on special teams makes him an attractive you, know day three, 304 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: Option so because that's because that's Where day three guys 305 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: usually start on special. Team, right you got a guy 306 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: coming in the door with that kind of experience that 307 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: that's an asset for that. 308 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: Kid, yeah and that's a Huge and he's right at 309 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: six foot two hundred pounds. Living he grew up In, Tyler. 310 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Texas so you, know the kid played some high school. 311 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: FOOTBALL i think, So, Yeah i'm he's. 312 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: Intriguing, yeah, uh let's go around THE nfl presented By 313 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: Kalida healthy official healthcare system of The Buffalo. Bills and 314 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: again we've got pre draft visits to report On texas 315 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: quarterback Quin youwers visiting The colts today that according TO Nfl, 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: Networks Mike garrafolo yours has also visited with The. Raiders 317 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: so one of the quarterback prospects in the draft making 318 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: some of the rounds, here probably, projects you, know as 319 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: a backup in the, league certainly as a rookie and 320 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: then you see where it, GOES i. Suppose but did 321 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: a nice job in Leading texas to the playoffs each 322 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: of the last two years in The College Football. Playoff 323 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: ESPN's Jeremy Fowler steve put together an interesting list of 324 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: the most polarizing prospects in this year's draft. Class And 325 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: i'm not going to hit them, all but there are 326 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: some big names, here and there are varying DEGREES i, 327 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: guess of issues that these players carry into the draft 328 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: that somewhat cloud or shroud them being a squeaky clean. 329 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Prospect you, know, surefire can't, miss sure done, Deal Lucille, 330 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: Right so here are the. Guys to no one's, Surprise 331 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: colorado Quarterbacks Shudor sanders do mainly to his to the 332 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: questions about his arm strength and how he drifts in 333 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: the pocket a, lot like he doesn't just he kind of. 334 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: Drifts this is an issue FOR i don't know, why 335 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: but it's an. Issue, okay seems LIKE ticki tax stuff 336 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: that Does Georgia georgia edge Rusher Michael williams due to 337 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: a lack of. Production all the physical traits are, there, tall, long, 338 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: bendy lsu offensive Tackle Will campbell because of his short, 339 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: Arms he's got thirty two and a half inch. Arms, 340 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: OKAY i think Panay sewell had short arms, too and 341 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: he's doing just. Fine if you can, play you can. 342 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: Play you know WHAT i? Mean LIKE i don't. 343 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 6: Know. 344 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: Yeah alabama Quarterback Jalen. Milroe some people see justin, fields 345 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: but some people are worried about whether he is accurate. 346 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: Enough it was Interesting milroe Accepted steve an invitation to 347 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: the draft even though many people project him to be 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: A day two. Pick so does he know something they talk? 349 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 3: About we talk about. THAT i think he believes he's 350 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: going to get traded up back up into bottom of 351 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: the bottom of the. 352 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: Round TEXAS a AND m defensive End Shamar stewart is 353 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: a guy we've talked. About are his instincts? Lacking why 354 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: does he only have four and a half sacks in 355 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: his college? Career does he have a pass rush plan 356 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: or is he just out there running Around. 357 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: Shamar stewart's a guy who is off the charts, Athletics 358 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: oh my. Gosh, yeah he's unbelievable, athlete looks the, part 359 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: tests the. Part but when he gets on a football, 360 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 3: field he never makes a play or not, never but you, 361 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: know not enough, rarely, Right so that's an. Issue what's 362 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: going On. 363 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 2: Ole miss defensive Tackle Walter. Nolan there are maturity concerns. 364 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: Here apparently he would walk out of practice when he 365 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: got frustrated halfway through a practice, session and that happened 366 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: more than once At Old. Miss so people have done 367 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: long sit down interviews with this guy to find, Out, 368 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: hey do you want to make good on your bad 369 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: habits or is this. 370 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: Is this a? 371 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: Problem? 372 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah why did you walk out of? 373 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: Practice he's also only twenty years. Old he doesn't turn 374 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: twenty one till later this, spring so some who like him, say, 375 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: well he's just a young, Kid well he'll get, It 376 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: and then there are others are, LIKE i don't you 377 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: know how many coaches want players walking out halfway through 378 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: practice because they're frustrated a young. 379 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: KID i don't know any eighteen year olds that would do. That, 380 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: yeah let alone a twenty year old and a kid 381 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: who's coming out in the, DRAFT i. Wouldn't. Yeah i'll 382 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 3: say this, though if you sit down with him and 383 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: talk to, him you may be satisfied with this. 384 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: Answer you. Might you, Might and that this is an 385 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: exact reason why the interviews are so, important because you 386 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: want to, say, hey what the heck was up? 387 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 7: With that's? 388 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: Right and what's your why'd you do? 389 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: That that? Is and you get. 390 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: An answer and you make your judgments from. There oregon 391 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: tight End Terrence, ferguson considered by many to be the 392 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: third best tight end in the, draft doesn't have a 393 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: lot of, physicality kind of considered a finesse, player and 394 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: naturally that's not going to work for some teams in the, 395 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: league so that could be an issue for. Him marshall 396 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: edge Rusher Mike, green who's widely expected to be a 397 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: mid first round. Pick there are off the field concerns 398 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: he had some sexual assault allegations against, him never had 399 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: never faced, charges but that's one of the reasons he 400 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: ended up At. 401 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: Marshall And i'll say this, too to their, credit a 402 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: lot of teams take him right off the board and 403 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: he's not he's not an. Option not every team, obviously 404 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: but a lot of teams will just take him. Off 405 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: and some teams, will LIKE i, said like we've been talking, 406 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: about they'll talk to him and he'll give him an 407 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: answer and they'll, say well we're Gonna they will mentor 408 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: that out of. Him you, know that kind of. Attitude 409 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: so decide whether they can't or decide whether they. Can 410 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: that's some teams are not put off by those kind of. 411 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: Things iowa running Back Caleb johnson enormously, productive had twenty 412 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: one rushing touchdowns this past, year but there are concerns 413 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: he's just a straight line. Glider he also didn't time. 414 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: WELL i think he ran a four or five seven 415 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: for a forty, time which you, know compared to some 416 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: of these other cats in the draft at running, back 417 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: like he looks. 418 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: Slow we were standing there at the draft at the 419 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: draft combine and these running the running back crew goes 420 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: out there for. That it's like one after the others 421 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: up tearing it out there's like a two a dozen 422 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: and a half guys out there. 423 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: Are Harvey trevort and like just run down the. List 424 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: there were guys that were. 425 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: So you do so you stand out not because you're 426 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: a four to three. Guy you stand out because you're 427 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: a four to six. Guy that's that's the wrong way to. 428 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: Stay that's the. 429 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: Problem. Yeah Uh Notre dame Quarterback Riley. Leonard some people 430 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: don't think he's a gifted. Passer he has all the 431 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: intangibles you could, want super, awesome leader of. Men there's 432 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: a lot to like About Riley. Leonard but some people 433 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: are like average, passer which is kind of important if 434 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: you're a. 435 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: Quarterback does that mean Does they don't say his arm, 436 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: strength they say his. 437 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: Passer. YEAH i found. 438 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: THAT i. 439 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: KNOW i found that as an interesting description Because i'm 440 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: using the words that these. People, yeah, yeah, yeah not 441 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: a gifted. Passer what is? 442 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 3: Me i'm asking, you, man you're the. 443 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: BROADCAST i guess he can't layer? Throws, great you, know 444 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: we'll say, that then there's got to layer his house 445 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: and gifted, passer you, know maybe you can't throw it 446 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: from the far hash to the opposite. 447 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: Sideline that's WHAT i need to know that kind of 448 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: not a GIFTED i get this, though because some people 449 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: will quantify the same problem as something. Different so you, 450 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: say not a gifted. Passer some you, know how do 451 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: you articulate something you can't really? Quantify, right gifted? Passer 452 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: that to, me let me just say this, now to, 453 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: me that means he doesn't see. It, well he doesn't 454 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: he doesn't see the. Defense, well an anticipatory, thrower yeah he. Does, 455 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: yeah he'll he's scared off of throws too, easily even 456 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: though though he's got the ability to make. Them something like. 457 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: That BUT i don't. 458 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: Know that's, well that would be my first question to the. 459 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: Scout what is a gifted? Passer? 460 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay well then they start why is he? Not 461 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: and then they, say, Well mahomes is a gifted, Passer 462 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: josh is a gifted. 463 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Passer, WELL i would, SAY i would, ask trait, wise 464 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: not who trait, wise what is a gifted passer and 465 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: see IF i can get a good answer. There michigan 466 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: Cornerback Will johnson do mainly to durability, concerns and Then 467 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: arizona wide Receiver ted McMillan considered to be the first 468 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: receiver to come off the board After Travis hunter route running. 469 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: Discipline he apparently takes some routes off and, drops which 470 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: was also a criticism Of Randy moss at one. 471 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: Point Take taking routes off is one, thing and that's 472 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: that's a maturity issue and a character issue more so 473 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: than a skill. 474 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: Issue, yeah which sometimes is of greater. Concern absolutely. 475 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 3: That, yeah the taking routes off is a. Problem, drops 476 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: you can come, overcome you can learn how to catch the. 477 00:23:52,400 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: Football taking routes off starts somewhere inside, you and that's 478 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: that's a. 479 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: Problem and then The bengals And Trey hendrickson the. Standoff 480 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: there is a stalemate in terms of contract. Negotiations and 481 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: there was an update that came FROM Nfl network seeing In, 482 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: rapaport who, said, QUOTE i believe The bengals would like 483 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: to keep and Pay Trey. Hendrickson we'll see if that, 484 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: happens AND i still think that it's very. Possible so 485 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: we'll see where it. GOES i think it's going to 486 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: bear watching to see if they sign an edge rusher or, 487 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: sorry draft an edge rusher in the potential pitfall of 488 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: not signing him to a long term. 489 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: Deal, Yeah i'm. Not and you, know you got all 490 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 3: These we're in the season now where everybody starts, saying, 491 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: oh what's it going to take to Get Trey hendrickson 492 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: away From. Cincinnati i'm not giving him a number one for? Him, 493 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: yeah because he. Won, yeah he's a thirty he's gonna 494 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: be thirty one by the time the season. Starts and 495 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: you got to you gotta sign him to a big. 496 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: Deal so you got big money invested on a short 497 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: term career arc. Yep and you got to give up 498 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: a number one who is a number one was gonna 499 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: be a really Good the number one is gonna be 500 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: a really good player no matter what position you. Do 501 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: and he's, cheap, cheap, Yep. Hendrickson you get an old 502 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: guy for big money and you give up a number 503 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: one draft pick for. HIM i don't, KNOW i don't. 504 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 8: Know. 505 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: Uh one final bit of news concerns The bills and 506 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: one of their, partners as The bills And LEBATTE usa 507 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: have extended their partnership that will stretch into new High Mark. 508 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: Stadium that announcement for the continuation of their long standing 509 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: partnership was just announced today actually within the hour, here 510 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: and they will be an official beer at The Buffalo 511 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: bills and The Bills. Mafia so congrats on that. Continuing 512 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: just kind of, cool cool to see, it very nice 513 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: as we you, know you get all these these are 514 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: just little signs that come out now that it's, like, 515 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: hey that stadium really is, Coming really it really is. 516 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: Coming yes it. 517 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: Is that's that topping off, ceremony topping out. Ceremony when 518 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: they put the last piece of steel in over there Last. 519 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: Friday Was, man that's set some wheels in motion for 520 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: me and. Mine i'm starting to get really really excited about. 521 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: It, yeah so that's good to, see as you, know 522 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: even our partners are getting excited about. This so cool 523 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: to see. That congrats to the BAD usa and The 524 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: bills on extending that. Partnership topic of discussion for you, 525 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: today obviously it concerns the, draft and we'd like to 526 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: know what dark horse position can The bills take higher 527 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: than expected in this and Why maybe you have you, 528 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: know a favorite prospect that you'd like to see The bills, 529 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: nab even if it's not necessarily a top positional, need 530 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: but you're, like, man if they could get this guy 531 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: on the, team it would be. Awesome who is that dark. 532 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: Force so, yeah it doesn't have to be a first, position. 533 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be a first round. Pick this is 534 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: more about the position that you think like on A 535 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: day three or even you know. 536 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Whatever, yeah more about the what than the? 537 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: Whop, yeah and why do you think they should pick 538 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: this guy when nobody else Is he's not nobody else's 539 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 3: radar or what position, group you, know because we've talked 540 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 3: about them taking if one of the, safeties which is 541 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: not historically a first round type of player that you 542 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: take if one of the top safeties in this draft 543 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: drops to thirty that we've talked, about that that would 544 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 3: be a dark horse position for me a little. Bit 545 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: you'll get some people because of The James cook. Situation you'll, say, 546 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 3: hey take a running back in the second with with 547 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: one of the top three picks or that kind of. 548 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: Thing that's what we're talking. About nobody expects The bills 549 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: to take a quarterback in the first two rounds that 550 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: kind of, thing or a tight end or a tight. 551 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: End so, yeah so that's the kind of thing we're talking. 552 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: About what's a position or or specific guy if you. Want, 553 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: yeah and obviously they're not going to get a shot 554 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: At Travis. HUNTER i, mean let's let's keep it realistic 555 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: if you. 556 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: Can, well, Yeah Travis hunter isn't a dark. Horse he's 557 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: a top five, pick so kind of hard to be 558 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: a dark horse when he has good. Five that's a good. 559 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: Point that's a good. 560 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: Point but we are going to step aside and take 561 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: a break here so we have more time for your 562 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: phone calls when we come. Back So tom And West 563 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: virginia will lead us. Off we do have open lines 564 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: for you at eight oh three zero five point fifty 565 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: one eighty eight five point fifty two five? Fifty what 566 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: dark horse position can The bills take higher than expected 567 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: in this? Draft and why we take your phone calls next? 568 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: Year On One Bill's, live presented By colid Of, Health 569 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo bill's rating all right back here On Want Bills, 570 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Live Chris, Brown Steve tasker with you talking about what 571 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: dark horse position do you think The bills can take 572 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: higher than expected in this? Draft and tell us why 573 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: eight oh three five fifty the number to get on. 574 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: Board let's go To tom In West virginia as promised 575 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: to lead us. 576 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 9: Off what you Got, tom, Hey Chris, Hey, steve how 577 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 9: you guys doing. GOOD i, Guys i'd like to bring 578 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 9: UP i have a. Question we say we go into 579 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 9: the first round or the second round and we take 580 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 9: we take one of these shiny new cornerbacks onto the 581 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 9: team obviously in, drafting like A harriston Or Trey. Amos 582 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 9: is there any chance that The bills could come back 583 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 9: after the draft and Sign Rasul douglas's back for another. 584 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 9: YEAR i just would feel more secure going in with 585 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 9: a seasoned veteran next season as opposed to putting all 586 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 9: our chips on the table with a rookie like you, 587 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 9: know we god, knows we know what happened With Kyrie, 588 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 9: Elam but is there any chance that we could Bring 589 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 9: rasoul back for you, know for what the team can. 590 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 9: Afford is that on the? Table or has The bills 591 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 9: totally left, him you, know left him to, go let 592 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 9: him go and just got rid of, em you know 593 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 9: WHAT i, mean cutting. 594 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: Lose, well here's the, Thing, yes that is absolutely a. Possibility. 595 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: Tom they could talk To rasoul anytime they want and 596 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: bring him, back and they could also deal with any 597 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: of the other corners that are still out, there the veteran. 598 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: Corners so, yeah that's absolutely on the, tame and in, 599 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: fact they're gonna have to to fill out the roster 600 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: for training. Camp you can bet they're going to bring 601 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: in probably eight. Corners you can have ninety, Players, yeah 602 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: you have ninety. Players they'll bring eight corners in and 603 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: a good bunch of them are going to be guys 604 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: that have been in the league for a, minute And 605 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: rasool could be one of them for. Sure so, yeah. 606 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 2: That'll out there for free, agency so you, KNOW i get. It, 607 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: Well bills have done that. BEFORE i mean they've added 608 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: players from the agent market after the draft before a 609 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: couple of years. Ago they Did Leonard floyd And Puna, ford, 610 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: right and they did it last year too with some 611 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: of the names are gonna escape, me but, Yeah Brandon 612 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: bean has done that to fill out a. Roster AND 613 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: i would think Come, may the leverage is with the 614 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: club because the player is still looking. 615 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: For a, job, Right so unless maybe it becomes more. 616 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: Affordable at that, POINT. 617 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: I has just got multiple offers on the, table WHICH i. Doubt, 618 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: yeah or he probably does know what the offers are 619 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: and he's got to make a choice between. Them, yeah 620 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: that's it's that. Simple, Yet, yes free agent means you're 621 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: free to sign with whoever, winever. 622 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: Let's go To gary on a sale. Next what's Up? 623 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 10: Gary, hey, guys how y'all doing? Good you're talking about 624 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 10: like a dark horse. Player the REASON i would say 625 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 10: to take, Them i'll tell you WHAT i think they're 626 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 10: also Is. Scataboo they're running back From Arizona. 627 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: State yep. 628 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 10: Ye then the Reads i'm saying that they get rid 629 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 10: of the twist. Plush we're gonna have to have a 630 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 10: power back and who and also THE. Dna he never 631 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 10: takes a playoffs And i'm just thinking Of jos getting 632 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 10: a little, older he'll be thirty for him coming. Up 633 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 10: they can use this, guy you, know power. RUNS i, 634 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 10: mean if he's their, third fourth round and they take, 635 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 10: HIM i Would i'd kind of excited because he kind 636 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 10: of reminded the All Start. 637 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: Uh, YEAH i would say there's some all, start All 638 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: start traits in. There he's more of a true running. 639 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: Back allstott was probably looked more like a, fullback was 640 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: listed as a, fullback but carried the ball For Tampa 641 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: bay for. 642 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 3: Years scatabo is only five nine and a half, too. 643 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: Right but he's two hundred and nineteen. Pounds, yes he's 644 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: thick all the way through. Right the interesting thing Is 645 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: skataboo has decided to not run a forty. Time didn't 646 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: do it at the combine where he just jumped thirty 647 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: nine and a half inches and broad jumped ten to, 648 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: three and then didn't do any other testing at the, 649 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: combine and then at his pro day he does not run. 650 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: Either so no one has a, time or at least 651 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: a current one On scataboo BECAUSE i think he knows 652 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: he's not gonna burn up the, Stopwatch so why AM 653 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: i gonna throw teams off my scent by running a 654 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 2: slow forty. Time he is one of the best tackle 655 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: breaking backs in the, class maybe this side Of ashton 656 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: genty and as we, said, stocky compact, build and he's 657 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: really hard to wrap up and. Tackle he turns his 658 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: legs through tackle attempts and he just keeps on. Going 659 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: pretty smooth as a receiver, too and was a big 660 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: part of Why Arizona state won The Big twelve and 661 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: went to The College Football. Playoff so twenty one rushing 662 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: touchdowns last, YEAR i, mean that's. Hard you can't knock it. 663 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: Now the one knock on him ten, fumbles five drop, 664 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: passes this. Season so ball security is an issue for, 665 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: him AND i think it's partly because he's such a 666 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: squatty compact. Frame it's almost like he can't carry the 667 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: ball high. Enough, yeah he gets it punched out a. 668 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: LOT i don't know what his arm length is or 669 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: his you, know wingspand, is but his arms are only 670 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine thirty, inches so he's got short arms for, 671 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: well he's only five, nine so his arms are commensurate 672 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: with his. Height. Yep, yeah that that's the name that people. 673 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: Know and And i'll say, this he's an impressive. Guy 674 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: when he watched him, play he had some impressive tough 675 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 3: as tough as, nails AND i. 676 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: Mean and to the college, point he does. Fit bill's 677 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 2: the end we saw him. 678 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: AT i saw him at the combine and he's he's 679 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: a thick. DUDE i mean He's, yeah he's gonna hold 680 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: up to, it that's for. 681 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: Sure oh, yeah, YEAH i don't think there's a question about. That, 682 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: uh plenty of people on, hold but let's go To 683 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: butcher on The East. Side what do you Got? 684 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 11: Butcher first of, all, gentleman thanks so much for taking my. 685 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 11: Call good. AFTERNOON i love him as G i love W. 686 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 11: Jats all the fans are listening to Watching bush from East. 687 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 11: Side love you, Dearly my brother's from another beautiful. Mom 688 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 11: i've got a couple of things to, say And i'm 689 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 11: a real BECAUSE i know you've got a lot of 690 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 11: is that we all have our draft books every. Year 691 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 11: this time we all got our chapters in. It make different, 692 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 11: scenarios as you guys already. Know i've made a couple 693 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 11: of scenarios already About James cook getting going To Dallas. 694 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 11: Cowboys also made one yesterday about swinging for the fences 695 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 11: and trying to Get Travis. Hunter but Today i'm gonna 696 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 11: go based off what your your topic is about A direk, 697 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 11: course AND i want to be. Realistic And steve And, 698 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 11: chris you had a couple of callers before they did 699 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 11: a couple of days ago stating about the offensive line 700 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 11: made a. Possibility but when you look at, it we 701 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 11: had we Got Cedric van Prink graandeer last year we 702 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 11: got A Cyrus fires before, THAT i look at a 703 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 11: situation that really can help our, team AND i look 704 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 11: at A Terral Booker, alabama big, big big lineman come 705 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 11: in could play possibility left guard and need. Be and 706 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 11: then what you What Brandon bean has did in the 707 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 11: last three years to solidify the AS i call, it 708 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 11: the arrow of a head of offensive. Line you got your, 709 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 11: center you got, tours and you Got Booker Van green 710 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 11: or could play, center and you got a little powerful 711 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 11: arrow there that can last for The, bills maybe for the. 712 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 11: Future that's one last, thing and thanks so much for 713 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 11: taking my. Call is this being? Realistic? Now we put 714 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 11: invest in our free, agents we invest in draft, picks 715 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 11: money and capital of this. Season but, Well i'll talk 716 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 11: about the hypothetical WHEN i pray To god it doesn't never. 717 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 11: Happen what about our number two? Quarterback if our guy 718 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 11: just has that, nick it has to be out for a. 719 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 12: While who could. 720 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 11: Carry the who can carry the? Chores where our, season 721 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 11: all the season ticket holders are not lost for a. 722 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 11: SEASON i Want buffalo really to address the number two 723 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 11: quarterback position as. Well thank you so much to take my. 724 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 11: Call love you to, me, oney And god blessed. 725 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: Bro that's an interesting scenario BECAUSE i don't THINK i 726 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: think people are just scared to even mention it out. 727 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: Loud and right now The bills have four quarterbacks on the. 728 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: Roster Steve Mike, White, Yeah Mitchell. 729 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: Trubisky, yeah to, me If josh goes, down so does the. 730 00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: Season we're. 731 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 3: Done See, YEAH i mean there's gonna be some fun 732 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: stuff to. Happen you're gonna watch the team, plays gonna be. 733 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 3: Great but If josh goes, down so to their. Chances 734 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: it's that, simple same. Things if something happened To sean, 735 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 3: McDermott you know something, That, yeah the whole thing goes 736 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: belly up. 737 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: Because you Got Mike, White Mitchell, Trubisky Shane. Bouchell that 738 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're not gonna Win. Josh it doesn't mean 739 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: that they're not gonna win another game or anything like. 740 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 2: That they're not gonna go oh for the rest of the, 741 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: season you. Know but, YEAH i did find it interesting 742 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who their backup. 743 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: IS i don't say it doesn't matter because the guy 744 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: has a job to. 745 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 2: DO i did find it interesting that late last, season 746 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: after spending most of the year on the practice, squad 747 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: they Signed Mike white to a futures, contract locking him 748 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: up on the ROSTER uh for this, year And trubisky 749 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: is in the last year of his two year, deal 750 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: and if The bills get tight on the. Cap you, 751 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Know trubisky could be a consideration to create some cap. 752 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: Space you're not keeping four quarterbacks on your fifty three man. 753 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: Roster The bills traditionally have kept. 754 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: Two. 755 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: Keep one on the practice. 756 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 3: Squad we got one on the practice. Squad That, Yes 757 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: i'm like, You. BROWNIE i think the fact that they 758 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 3: Kept Mike white and signed him to a deal SAYS 759 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: i think. That and let me just be, HONEST i 760 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 3: Think josh picks the. Guy and, YEAH i Think josh 761 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: same draft class and those two. Guys, Yeah AND i 762 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 3: also Think josh It's i've said it a million. Times 763 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 3: that guy's job isn't to play. Quarterback it's to Help 764 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: josh play quarterback. Better, Yeah and so that's what you're looking. 765 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 3: At and If josh, says, hey this guy's really helped, 766 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 3: ME i like having him in the, room you can 767 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: bet the guys can't be in the, room, right particularly 768 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: a guy Like Mike white who's not breaking the. Bank so, yep, 769 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 3: YEAH i, yes there's a chance they could take a. 770 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 3: Guy it'll be day, three no, question and the guy 771 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 3: will Beat. Toolsy he'll be a, big, strong strong arm, 772 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 3: dude or he will be a. Leader you, know a 773 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 3: great decision. Maker he'll be one of those. Guys, yeah 774 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: one or the. Other but he's going to have a 775 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 3: trade that really sets him apart if they do do. That, yeah, 776 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 3: yeah the, backup that's. True that is a dark horse 777 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 3: thing AND i wouldn't be adverse to. That and the 778 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: third day of the draft getting a. Guy but if, 779 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 3: yeah something happens To, josh you can, yeah kiss it. 780 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 13: All. 781 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: Goodbye let's go To ken In tampa. Next what's Up? Ken? 782 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 14: Hey how you? Doing? Guys? 783 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 8: Good, so you, KNOW i think value is so. IMPORTANT 784 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 8: i remember watching last year's draft and we trade out 785 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 8: of the worthy tick AND i kept yelling at the. 786 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 8: Screen i'm texting my, friends probably like a lot of 787 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 8: folks on you know that are listening right, Now And 788 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 8: i'm Texting cooper To. Gen cooper To, gene sixteenth best 789 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 8: graded player in the, draft such, value and then Edgering 790 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 8: cooper was another guy that you KNOW i was texting 791 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 8: about in both guys look like they're going to Be 792 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 8: Pro bowl players next. YEAR i, mean And Les cooper 793 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 8: was A Pro bolo last. Year BUT i think when 794 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 8: we're looking at you, know draft picks and a team 795 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 8: Like buffalo you have to, be how good you have 796 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 8: to be to slide into one of those starting, roles you. 797 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 8: KNOW i mean we have an elite. Team it's not 798 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 8: like we're not a team that didn't end up in you, 799 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 8: know THE Afc championship game or you, know in the 800 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 8: playoffs the past how many. Years so this isn't an 801 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 8: easy team to. Make SO i think that we used 802 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 8: draft capital to move around a little, bit grab those 803 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 8: elite players if they're, there either of the kids From 804 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 8: Ohio state that are coming Out hendrix or forgot the 805 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 8: other kids From ole miss the, transfer but elite. Players, 806 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 8: also what about trading a couple of, picks putting together a, 807 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 8: deal maybe Even coleman in our number one and go 808 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 8: After Marvin. HARRISON i, Mean arizona's a team that could use. 809 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 8: Picks arizona's a team that could could you, know get 810 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 8: a lot better with a couple number twos and number 811 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 8: one for a guy Like Baron, harrison which now you 812 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 8: have an ex receiver secure gets better and so does 813 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 8: our tight. Ends you, Know, KATE i think it's going 814 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 8: to have a breakout. Year so, anyways that was my. 815 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: Thought, okay, yeah thats good. 816 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 3: Move you'd have to give up a bunch to get 817 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 3: a guy Like Marvin Harrison. Junior BUT i get the. 818 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: Idea there are some. 819 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 9: Teams but he didn't have a great. 820 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 8: YEAR i, mean he didn't have the year that neighbors. 821 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 2: Had, Right but, YEAH i don't think that means they've 822 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: given up on. Him that's that's the. Point and when 823 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: you he was a top five, pick and teams usually 824 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 2: don't sour on a top five pick in one. Year arizona. 825 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: Has they did it With Josh rosen because they Picked 826 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 2: Kyler murray the very next year with the first, Pick 827 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: SO i can't say they haven't done it. Before BUT 828 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: i would be stunned if they Moved Marvin harrison for 829 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 2: just about anything you could dream up under the. 830 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 3: Sun you give him keon and this year it's not. 831 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: Half they they just drafted him last. 832 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: Year. Yeah and here's the thing. Too one of the 833 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 3: reasons he didn't have such a great year is probably 834 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 3: because of the quarterback. 835 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 2: Well and he ALSO i think he missed some time 836 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: in the preseason as. Well arizona didn't play their starters 837 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: a ton in the. 838 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: Preseason SO i get the, idea and if you could make, 839 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: IT i would do that deal, too But arizona. 840 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: Won't it sounds, great, SIMPLE i just don't know how 841 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: Real arizona won't do. 842 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 3: That if they, would there are other teams other than The, 843 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: bills who have a higher pick than number thirty who 844 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 3: would give. It do it as. Well you know What i'm, 845 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 3: Saying AND i get. It give Him Keyon, coleman who's 846 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 3: another number one or number two draft. 847 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: Pick. 848 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: If you think that tilts the. Scale but other teams 849 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: would make a better deal than that to Get Marvin harrison. 850 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: Junior so And arizona's picking. SIXTEENTH i, mean it's not 851 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: like they're picking twenty eighth or. Something they're going to 852 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: be right in that sweet spot where the meat and 853 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 2: potatoes of the draft. Starts they're in an ideal position, 854 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: there and not for. Nothing they've done some nice things 855 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: in free agency as well to help their pass rush 856 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: with some signings. There they help their offensive line a little. 857 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: Bit i'm going to pull up my file on them right. 858 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: Now so they have a veteran backup In Jacoby, brisset a. 859 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: Quarterback they Signed Josh sweaton free, agency along With Kalais 860 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: campbell And Dalvin. Tomlinson the cast off From, cleveland and 861 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: then they signed linebacker Rakeem Davis gather From, cincinnati and 862 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: they got an offensive lineman to serve as a, backup 863 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: all while you, know re signing some of their own 864 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: Like Baron, browning who's a good pass, rusher so AN. Lj. 865 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: Collier SO i think that they see their build a 866 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: little bit differently than maybe you do Can and that's 867 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: WHY i think they'd be very reluctant to move on 868 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 2: from a guy that they believe is going to be 869 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: a cornerstone piece for. 870 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 3: Them, YEAH i don't. Think, yeah it's not that it's 871 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 3: not a great. Idea it's an incredible idea for The, 872 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: bills but you. Can't you're not gonna Get arizona to 873 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: say yes To that's that's my. Issue that would be my. 874 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: Issue got to take a break, Here but more of 875 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back here On One Bill's, 876 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: live presented by Co lot Of. Health It's Buffalo Bill's. 877 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: Radio all right back here On One Bill's, Live Chris, 878 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: Brown Steve, Tasker right back to the phones we. Go 879 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: where we're asking you what is a dark horse position 880 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,720 Speaker 2: you feel The bills might tap into a little higher 881 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 2: than expected in this. Draft and why back to the, 882 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: phones we go Into kevin And. Hamburg what's Up? 883 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 4: Kevin, hey, guys how you doings for taking my? CALL 884 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 4: i Love. MILANO i think he's, phenomenal and most people. 885 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 4: Do But i've heard this from better, People bills fans 886 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: when you go to the, store like during the, Season 887 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 4: milano is, great but he cannot. Stay that guy is 888 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 4: like every other year something that takes them out four 889 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 4: or five, games if not a whole, year and right 890 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 4: when you need, him he's, like you, Know milano was, 891 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 4: there he would have made that and he wouldn't have missed, 892 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 4: it but he. Wasn't you, know you can't have. Available 893 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 4: if you don't have, availability you don't have productivity and vice. 894 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 4: Versa So i'd like to see Him gill linebacker And 895 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 4: Keith mulano is another. Thing even don't go out the, 896 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 4: season even goes out five games are the worst time 897 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 4: and something like, that because he's getting to be like 898 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 4: that old vehicle you don't want to get rid. Of 899 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 4: but everything goes wrong and then something else goes wrong after. 900 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 14: That you know What i'm. 901 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: Saying, NO i get. It linebacker is an interesting position 902 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: because it's not like they're devoid of. Depth. There they 903 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 2: added some depth pieces last year In Eddie ulafotio And 904 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: Joe andres and the undrafted rookie along with you, Know Dorian. 905 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: Williams and So Dorian williams is going to be entering 906 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 2: his third, season so is and balance spectors in ring 907 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: his fourth, season you. Know and then you Have bernard And. 908 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 2: Milano so it's not like they're devoid of talent or. 909 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: Depth but, Yeah i'll listen to. That you want to 910 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 2: get get a linebacker maybe early day, three because you've 911 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 2: addressed the primary positional. Needs i'll listen to. 912 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: It, Sure, YEAH i gotta get a get a guy with. 913 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 2: Tools and it's not considered a great linebacker. Class, yeah 914 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 2: but you can always find. ONE i get. 915 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 3: It that's that's. Good that's a, good good. Answer and 916 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: and the you, know the logic makes sense as. 917 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: Well it's going To mark In West. Seneca what's? 918 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 3: Up? 919 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 15: Mark, hey, guys are today? GOOD a couple of POINTS 920 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 15: i want to make. Well one of them is a 921 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 15: draft scenery they want to throw at you, guys and 922 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 15: see if you think it's realistic as far as the 923 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 15: dark horse thing, Goes, uh the thing that jumps out 924 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 15: to me and everybody mentions is the running back. Situation 925 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 15: AND i really Think, brandon because this is such a 926 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 15: deep running back. CLASS i Think brandon is going to 927 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 15: protect himself and not get pigeonholed into having to Pay James. 928 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 15: Cook so he's going to give himself an option and 929 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 15: then out by drafting a young kid who's got some 930 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 15: talent and maybe hopefully stash him on the practice squad 931 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 15: for a year and instead of waiting till next year 932 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 15: and drafting a kid if he had to next. Year 933 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 15: SO i really think he's going to really look at that. 934 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 15: Hard my scenario is THAT i would like to see 935 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 15: them trade. Back and here's the reason. Why if you 936 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 15: guys could give me an, idea how far back would 937 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 15: we have to trade in the second to get into 938 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 15: the second round from our with our first to get 939 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 15: a third round pick from, somebody and then parwaying that 940 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 15: third round pick with whatever you need to with our 941 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 15: fourth and our fifths to then again move up into 942 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 15: the second, round thus giving us four second round picks 943 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 15: players in the top sixty. Four and that's allowing us 944 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 15: to draft that wide receiver we always had THAT h 945 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 15: four and maybe three defensive players whatever combo defensive lineman 946 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 15: as rushers and dbs that branding comes up. With AND 947 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 15: i think if he could pull something like that, off 948 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 15: we have a successful draft just with those four players 949 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 15: in the second. Round how realistic do you think that? 950 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 15: IS i know you got to have draft, partners AND 951 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 15: i know you have to see how the board, falls 952 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 15: but that's really WHAT i would love to see us 953 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 15: do in one. Season we could really rebuild a lot 954 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 15: of the. 955 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: Team it's a lot of wheeling and. 956 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 3: Dealing, YEAH i, think like for the fifty sixth pick 957 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 3: in the in the chart That i'm looking, at you 958 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 3: could drop down and get half of that. Pick half 959 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 3: of that number fifty six pick would be all the 960 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: way back to like the ninetieth. Pick you go from 961 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 3: fifty six to ninety and then you could fill it 962 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 3: in with two third rounders after. 963 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 2: That but he wants four picks in round, two which 964 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 2: isn't all that different from the scenario you were painting 965 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 2: in Our if somebody has bills by. 966 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 3: The, number if somebody wants to jump up into the 967 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 3: first or, whatever. 968 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: So he's thinking trade back in the track back in the, 969 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: second then use one of your two's to slide back 970 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 2: into the, third then use a third in some of 971 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 2: your fours to get back into the, second make. Another 972 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 2: there was a lot of wheeling and dealing. 973 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 3: There if you wanted to give up the thirtieth pick 974 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 3: and get into the second round and pick up that'd 975 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 3: be a third second rounder and you could get a, 976 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 3: second so you'd give you three second, rounders and you 977 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 3: could get a third for that as well a second 978 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 3: and a third for your number. 979 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,479 Speaker 2: ONE i think it's more likely that The bills find 980 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: their way into the third round with a pick then 981 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 2: they do doing all that stuff you just, Mentioned, mark, 982 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: respectfully we are up against the. Break but when we come, 983 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 2: BACK i guess who's going to be joining us on the. 984 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: Line Lorenzo. Alexander he was just in town doing a 985 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 2: couple of. Clinics we'll catch up with him on that 986 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: and see what his overarching thoughts are on The bills 987 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 2: and this upcoming draft when we return here On One 988 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 2: Bill's live presented BY Klida, Health It's Buffalo Bills. 989 00:50:21,400 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: Radio The One Bill's lives presented By called lighta help. 990 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: Second hour of the show here on A, Wednesday Chris, 991 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: Brown Steve, tasker with, you and joined on the line 992 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: now by a guy who put in fifteen seasons in THE, 993 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 2: nfl last four here In, buffalo made A Pro bowl 994 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 2: while he was, Here Lorenzo, alexander formerly Of The lowdown 995 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: on this very, show joining us here after spending some 996 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: time in Western New york and Southern ontario. Recently and 997 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: we'll get into the reasons why in just a. Second But, 998 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: zoe thanks for giving us some. Time how you, Been 999 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: i've been. 1000 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 16: Great i'm, blessed you, know just like we talked about 1001 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 16: a few, minutes you, know offline, man trying to be 1002 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 16: Like Steve tasker every single, day you, know a little 1003 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 16: bit of media, now a good chance to see my 1004 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 16: kids play. Ball it's really fun just to kind of 1005 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 16: be retired in that second phase and still be an 1006 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 16: impactful a lot of different. 1007 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 3: Ways, yeah you're still involved with your. Foundation you were 1008 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 3: up In, Welland ontario doing some flag football. Stuff tell 1009 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 3: me about your take on flag. Football it's really been 1010 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 3: getting bigger and bigger and. Bigger now it's going to 1011 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 3: be An olympic sport this this Next. Olympics you've been 1012 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 3: involved with it from the early on set and it 1013 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 3: is really exploding, right, yes. 1014 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 16: Exploding and it's really been coming on. STRONG i think 1015 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 16: a lot you, know around when CONCUSSION, CTE i think 1016 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 16: really allowed this sport to start thriving and showing people 1017 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 16: that there are additional ways to kind of get into the. 1018 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 16: Sport AND i see it as you, know a couple 1019 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 16: of things, right you can become a professional in this, sport. 1020 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 7: As we're seeing when you talk about playing for your. 1021 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 16: Country dedal talked about having women's flag football obviously having 1022 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 16: a potentially a professional. League and then on the boys tackle, 1023 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 16: side it's a really good entry point for young boys 1024 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 16: to develop the skills needed to be a good football 1025 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 16: player and working on footwork and catching and all those 1026 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 16: things without necessarily have to endure contact at a certain early. 1027 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 7: Age SO i think. 1028 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 16: It has a lot of good resources and reasons why 1029 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 16: you should, play especially on the girls. Side my, daughter 1030 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 16: my daughter played high school. Here it's it's an aia you, 1031 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 16: know high school sanctioned, sport and so that's WHEN i 1032 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 16: firstly got got immersed into it for the girls, side 1033 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 16: and going up there To walden and seeing all the 1034 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 16: people over there In ontario and the girls the talent 1035 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 16: and seeing some of the top teams in the country 1036 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 16: and that talent that associated with it was really cool 1037 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 16: to see and just really happy for girls now having 1038 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 16: these avenues from The, olympics hopefully a professional league one, 1039 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 16: day and then even college college scholarships that are beginning 1040 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 16: to come, online especially here in The. 1041 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 2: States, yeah because they're really starting, it you, know at 1042 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 2: the grassroots. LEVEL i, mean they had high school programs 1043 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: that are you, know popping up like weeds here in 1044 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: Western New. York and it's gotten to the point where 1045 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 2: these high school coaches are now pushing the districts to 1046 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 2: have modified teams at the middle school level to kind 1047 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 2: of have a feeder. SYSTEM i, mean that's that's the 1048 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 2: kind of exponential growth we're talking about. 1049 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 7: Here. 1050 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 16: Yeah, Yeah and that's the biggest separator right. Now RIGHT 1051 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 16: a lot of girls that are currently playing grew up playing, softball, volleyball, 1052 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 16: soccer those type of, sports and that is WHAT i 1053 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 16: see is like the biggest gap right. Now when you 1054 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 16: go and watch girls, play they're uber athletic and, talented 1055 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 16: but some. 1056 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 7: Of just the FOOTBALL, iq some of THE i guess skill. 1057 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 16: Or motor skills that you'll see some of the boys 1058 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 16: had that they haven't developed quite. Yet it is because 1059 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 16: of that lack of, pipeline and so that's really what 1060 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 16: THE nfl is getting. AROUND i, know The bills Pressing 1061 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 16: tigue is doing a big job of trying to develop that, 1062 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 16: pipeline get the coaches coaches up because the game is 1063 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 16: different than tackle and so you have to approach it. 1064 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 16: Differently also coaching girls is different as, well and so 1065 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 16: making sure that we are having a wrap around type 1066 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 16: of service and development for all parties, involved and so 1067 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 16: that our young ladies that are in the sport can 1068 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 16: thrive and be the most impactful human beings as. 1069 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 3: Possible you also held a many apply pressure clinic for 1070 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 3: youth football players here a training center a weekend or. 1071 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 3: Two go tell us a little bit about what that's. 1072 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 7: About, yeah it's really. 1073 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 16: Cool and that's one of the cool parts is still 1074 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 16: being connected with the organization obviously With sean And brandon 1075 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 16: still being, there and Then Will greenberg who was now 1076 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 16: the strength, coach who was a strength coach WHEN i was, 1077 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 16: there having those relationships giving me access to be able 1078 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,439 Speaker 16: to bring in a group like breaking barriers that's local 1079 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 16: there In buffalo and really help these young men obviously 1080 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 16: see themselves being a part of The bills. Organization one 1081 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 16: day we Had Curtis, hemingway we Had Miles, dawson who 1082 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 16: was the son of a scout that's up there speak 1083 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 16: to these young men as well as far as how 1084 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 16: they service outside of being the traditional, athlete right but 1085 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 16: they work in the legens, community working in and, statistics 1086 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 16: get engineering, analytics and then also having guys Like chris 1087 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 16: come in and speak about what you do on the business. 1088 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 16: Side so it was just really cool to share with 1089 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 16: them that aspect of what it means to be part 1090 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 16: of a professional, organization but then also go through some 1091 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 16: drills and stuff in the weight room and showing what 1092 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 16: it looks like if they want to take their game 1093 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 16: to the next, level right being whether as a starter 1094 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 16: get a college scholarship and then hopefully maybe for a 1095 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 16: couple of, them have an opportunity to play at the highest. 1096 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 7: Level so it was just a really. 1097 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 16: Fun day to develop young men real men AS i, 1098 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 16: say and help them see themselves in a multitude of different. 1099 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 2: Ways what do you, feel BECAUSE i know there are 1100 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: always surprises when you host these kinds of you, know 1101 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 2: growth type. Events the questions you get sometimes what are 1102 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 2: what were some of you, know the more interesting questions 1103 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 2: that maybe made you even think for a second or. 1104 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 7: Two, well you, know at this, Point i've heard it. 1105 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 16: All you, KNOW i have three, teenagers, Right i've been 1106 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 16: one is an, adult NOW i have, Two so there's 1107 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 16: really no questions that really throw me. OFF i think 1108 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 16: the biggest thing is really cool to see is like 1109 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 16: once they realize like some opportunities and options that they 1110 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 16: weren't aware, of and then number, two how hard they 1111 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 16: actually have to work right to become that individual they 1112 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 16: need to. Be and then also the things that you 1113 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 16: have to, do some of the sacrifices you have to, do. 1114 00:56:58,760 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 7: And like you have to really do. 1115 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 16: That i'm, like, yes if you want to be, elite 1116 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 16: and When i'm talking about, elite it's not just a football, 1117 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,720 Speaker 16: player but really anything you want to do in, life there's. 1118 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 7: A cost that's associated with. 1119 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 16: That and so just having that light come on for 1120 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 16: those young men is really cool to. See and then 1121 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 16: also you know the fun part getting up on the 1122 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 16: board with them and kind of going through some FOOTBALL 1123 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 16: iq stuff to help them in that aspect as. 1124 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 3: Well so you're, BUSY i know that how long how 1125 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 3: much time you spending if any getting ready for this. 1126 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 3: Draft are you thinking about players or how much you 1127 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 3: be CAUSE i know that it's hard to Get brownie 1128 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 3: AND i do because we have. To we you, know 1129 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 3: we do it. Naturally our thing. Right what you're how 1130 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: what's your level of connection with THE nfl and what's 1131 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 3: going on right this moment in this. Offseason, yeah a lot. 1132 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 7: Of things is really. 1133 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 16: Cool so you, know as a former, player NOW i 1134 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 16: get TO i have a lot of, time AND i 1135 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 16: live In arizona where there's AN exos and that's where 1136 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 16: a lot of young men trained to prepare for the. 1137 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 16: Draft SO i had an opportunity to train six or 1138 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 16: seven young. Men, also a young man by the name 1139 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 16: Of Devin allen who played for the receiver for The, 1140 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 16: eagles did some. Training he has a god brother THAT 1141 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 16: i got to train out Of Montana Hating, hares big 1142 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 16: d line outside. Linebacker and Then Ben morrison who was 1143 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 16: a local product here who was. 1144 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 7: A big time cornerback out of Order, dame Who i've 1145 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 7: known since he was a. 1146 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 16: Baby and so BECAUSE i have these personal, Relationships i'm 1147 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 16: in the space Right But i'm not like doing with 1148 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 16: Male kiper and coming over all these mock. 1149 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 7: Drafts you, know that's not WHAT i care. 1150 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 16: About i'm care about helping these men, develop understand what THE, 1151 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 16: nfl what it takes right once they get, them maximizing that, 1152 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 16: opportunity and then really being a resource to them to 1153 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 16: help help them. 1154 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 7: Navigate and so. 1155 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 16: That's kind of my aspect of the draft is how 1156 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 16: CAN i be a resource to these young men trying 1157 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 16: to achieve their dream and really impact the community to 1158 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 16: the next. 1159 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 2: Level, Yeah and you, Know Benjamin morrison is an interesting case, 1160 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 2: because as you probably well, know he's trying to come 1161 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 2: off a hip injury that required, surgery AND i think 1162 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: he just announced he's gonna RUN i Think april twenty, 1163 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: first like three days before the, draft to get them 1164 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 2: get everybody some numbers on his. Testing, yeah going to 1165 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 2: be right out. There you're going to be there for. 1166 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 7: That, Yeah i'm gonna be. 1167 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 16: There he's actually gonna be running where he went to high, 1168 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 16: School Brophy, prep and that's where Actually mason my, son 1169 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 16: my son is going to be going next year to 1170 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 16: start his high school career academically and football wise as. 1171 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 7: Well So i'll be out there checking him. 1172 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 16: Out LIKE i, said there a family friend and you 1173 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 16: don't like the draft process, everybody you, know it's a to, 1174 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 16: me it's a devaluing process at the end of the, 1175 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 16: day and we know What ben can do on the football. 1176 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 7: FIELD i don't believe his hips is. 1177 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 16: Going to be any in any, issue you, know just 1178 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 16: the way how far, again how science has, come just 1179 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 16: knowing who he is as a young, man how hard 1180 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 16: he's going to. Work his dad played in the league as, 1181 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 16: well so he has a lot of institutional knowledge AND 1182 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 16: i have complete faith in him and his work ethic 1183 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 16: as far as being healthy to go out there and 1184 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 16: help any team that he gets drafted. By now obviously 1185 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 16: The bills needs SOME dB, HELP i, think and you 1186 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 16: know with all they lost back, there and he's going 1187 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 16: to be a great young man right from a leadership, 1188 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 16: standpoint somebody you don't have to worry, about somebody that's 1189 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 16: going to raise the ceiling and really push others around 1190 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 16: him to make the team the best as. 1191 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 7: Possible so he fits The bills. COACHER i know That 1192 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 7: i've watched. 1193 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 16: Him i've seen him, grow and he would be a 1194 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 16: great pick up for anybody that gets, him especially you 1195 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 16: know The Buffalo. 1196 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Bill, yeah BECAUSE i mean just looking at some of his. 1197 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Tape it's very. Good and he not only from A 1198 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 2: BILL'S dna, standpoint but just from a physical. Standpoint you, 1199 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 2: know the bills typically like long, corners and you know 1200 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 2: he's long. FRAMED i, MEAN i know he's only six, 1201 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: foot but he seems long. Framed you could probably speak 1202 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 2: to it better THAN i could have and stood stood 1203 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 2: next to. Him but there just seems to be a 1204 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: lot to like. There SO i think if he tests 1205 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 2: just good, ENOUGH i don't think he's got to blow 1206 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: up the Stop watch. EITHER i, mean if he just tests, 1207 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: WELL i think he's gonna be you, know maybe a 1208 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Late day, one early day two. 1209 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 7: Pick, yeah for. 1210 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 16: SURE i mean he's if all, things you, know being 1211 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 16: perfect in an ideal world without the, injury you, know 1212 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 16: he's probably a top ten, pick, Right and so it's 1213 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 16: really got thing gonna come down to the. DOCTORS i 1214 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 16: think they already based on all his. Exams he's been 1215 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 16: doing really well in his rehab. Program, obviously when he 1216 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 16: goes out there and run and showcased On, monday the 1217 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 16: twenty first is going to kind of be the last 1218 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 16: piece of that. 1219 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 7: Puzzle so coaches can actually see. 1220 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 16: The progress in with their own eyes and yeah to your, 1221 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 16: point you, know late first. Round BUT i you, know 1222 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 16: when you get talent like, THAT i think some people 1223 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 16: are always gonna, say, MAN i like WHAT i. 1224 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 7: See let me try to get him as. 1225 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 16: Early as, possible because that's the type of guy that's 1226 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 16: going to be a culture changer in an organizational, change 1227 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 16: especially the way THE nfl has, played where you got 1228 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 16: to have guys that can lock down the. 1229 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 3: Outside great. Stuff, Thanks lorenzo's great seeing, you, man you look. 1230 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 3: Great thanks for coming. 1231 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 7: On oh, NO i appreciate. Him AND i got these 1232 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 7: muscles for my fourteen year old. Son you understand, That. 1233 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 16: Steve the bigger they, get they start trying to try 1234 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 16: you a little. Bit So i've been in the dym pretty, 1235 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 16: good hitting these ways. 1236 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Perfect thanks for the, Time. Zoe appreciate. 1237 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 3: It appreciate, it man always all. 1238 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 2: Right That's Lorenzo, alexander Former bill's, linebacker joining, us and 1239 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 2: it was good to tap into that a little. Bit you, 1240 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: KNOW i knew he was out there near that Ex, 1241 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 2: so for listeners that don't, KNOW exos is one of 1242 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 2: the workout. Facilities they have multiple facilities around the, country 1243 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: but they have a big one down In, Arizona and 1244 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: a lot of times when players declare for the draft 1245 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 2: after the football, season they don't go to the second 1246 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 2: semester of. School they pretty much leave school and go 1247 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 2: to one of these training facilities to get ready for 1248 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 2: the combine, workouts you, know and then the. Draft and 1249 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 2: that's where one of them. Are he's, right he lives 1250 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 2: right near one of. Them so a lot of times 1251 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 2: the people AT exos are not. Stupid they Ask lorenzo 1252 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 2: other retired players in the, area, hey can you come 1253 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: over and, just you, know show some different techniques and 1254 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 2: things for some of our players what to, expect you, 1255 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 2: know in the pre draft run up to the, draft 1256 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 2: And zoe kind of chips in with some of that, 1257 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 2: knowledge just passing it. 1258 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 3: Up become way more than a cottage industry personal. Training oh, 1259 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 3: yeah so you got these, guys, well you, know we've 1260 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:10,479 Speaker 3: Had palmer come, on you, Know josh's position, coach Not Jordan, 1261 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 3: palmer come. On he's also worked with Cam. Ward he 1262 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 3: kind of checked Cam ward out a little. Bit he 1263 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,439 Speaker 3: had some thoughts on Cam. Ward all these. Guys it's, 1264 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 3: yeah these facilities are everywhere and guys are looking for you, 1265 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 3: know that's why these guys forty times keep coming down 1266 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 3: and down down because they get they get coach training for, 1267 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 3: it they get trained for. 1268 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 17: It so. 1269 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 3: There's a there's a lot in, it And lorenzo's been 1270 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 3: kind of got his finger on the pulse of that 1271 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 3: part of it out. There, yeah it's good to. 1272 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 2: See nice to know that he's Known Benjamin morrison since 1273 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 2: he was a. Kid and he's. RIGHT i, Mean morrison 1274 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 2: was a team captain A Notre dame and defense was 1275 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 2: the strong suit of that football team for the last two, 1276 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 2: years made it all the way to the national title. 1277 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Game and here's the other thing About Benjamin. Morrison not 1278 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 2: only is the long, frame not only is he a 1279 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 2: team captain and you Know BILL'S dna kind of, stuff 1280 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,800 Speaker 2: but he also played a lot of press. Coverage AND 1281 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 2: i think more teams in the league are looking for 1282 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 2: corners who can do. Everything they don't just want to 1283 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 2: draft a zone coverage. Corner they want a guy that 1284 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 2: can play man end. Zone and from the TAPE i 1285 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 2: saw when this guy's, healthy he can turn and run 1286 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 2: and plaster with just about any receiver you put out. 1287 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 2: There so and even if he does lose, contact he 1288 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 2: has the makeup speed to get back in the play 1289 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 2: and force an. Incompletion so there's a lot to like About. 1290 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 2: MORRISON i just hope for his sake he runs a nice, 1291 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 2: time you, know that kind of re establishes his status 1292 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 2: in this draft, class Right. 1293 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah and that's, yeah finding out he's that kind of. 1294 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 3: Guy that doesn't mean that that that's a, rarity but 1295 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 3: it does mean it's he checks some boxes for The. 1296 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 3: Bills AND i always go back to this because remember 1297 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 3: When Gabe, davis the Form bill's wide, receiver was drafted 1298 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 3: and that the Combine Brandon bean famously, said don't run too, Fast, 1299 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 3: gabe you, know because he knew he liked him and 1300 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 3: he wanted nobody else to like, him right. That this 1301 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 3: is kind of What Benjamin morrison kind of feels like to. 1302 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 3: Me Brandon bean's sitting there, going, GOSH i hope he 1303 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 3: flunks his physical for those teams now kind of. 1304 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Thing so it's injury. Concerns those are the only issues for, 1305 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 2: him because not only did he have the hip injury 1306 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 2: that required surgery in the twenty four season last spring 1307 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 2: about a year ago at this, time he also had 1308 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 2: to get a shoulder surgery and he had another hip 1309 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 2: injury in high, school so the doctors probably prodded and 1310 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 2: pulled him every which way at the. Combine presumably he 1311 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 2: has to go back To indy For april medical, rechecks 1312 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: and then after that he's gonna probably go test at 1313 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 2: his high School april twenty, First so we'll keep our 1314 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 2: ear to the ground on. That let's get back to the, phones. 1315 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 2: Though at eight h three zero five fifty won eight 1316 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five, fifty we are asking 1317 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 2: you what dark horse position could The bills take higher 1318 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 2: than expected in this year's, draft and why we go 1319 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 2: To steve out In iowa? 1320 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 3: Next what's Up? 1321 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 17: Steve, guys thanks for taking my. Call sure other people 1322 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 17: have probably addressed, this BUT i won't get into specifics 1323 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 17: other than the general nature of the. Pick i'd like 1324 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 17: to see an offensive lineman and possibly a. PUNTER i 1325 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 17: Would i'm of the opinion that you should draft an 1326 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 17: offensive and a defensive lineman every. Draft the punter would 1327 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 17: be somewhat, extraneous But i'm not sure about the. Punting 1328 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 17: i'd still look at a punter late in the day 1329 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 17: or certainly signing one free. 1330 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 9: Agency hold On. 1331 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 2: Steve hold On steve before you hang. UP i want 1332 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 2: to ask you this because The bills currently have two 1333 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 2: punters on their, Roster Brad robbins And Jake, kamarta and 1334 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 2: both of them were draft choices in the, past but 1335 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,479 Speaker 2: they were both draft. Picks do you feel better about that? Now? 1336 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 17: Yeah i'm aware of. THAT i would STILL i would 1337 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 17: still still draft looking at a late day three draft picker, Again, 1338 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 17: OKAY i don't see anything wrong with bringing a guy. 1339 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 2: Yet, YEAH i just. DIDN'T i was just curious if 1340 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 2: you felt differently knowing that the two punters they have 1341 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 2: on the roster were, drafted you know when they came. Out, 1342 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 2: yeah you, know sixth like you, said, sixth seventh round 1343 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 2: somewhere around. There but you want to draft another? One? 1344 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 2: Okay that would be, uh that'll be a heck of 1345 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 2: a punting. Competition three draft choices in their, history all 1346 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 2: competing for one punting. Job old, Line. STEVE i gotta say, 1347 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 2: HE i hear. HIS i understand the. 1348 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 3: LOGIC i hear what he. Said draft of defensive and 1349 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,959 Speaker 3: offensive linement in every, draft no matter, WHAT i get, 1350 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 3: it and it makes some. Sense those guys are. Rare 1351 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 3: the good ones are. Rare you gotta find. THEM i don't. 1352 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 3: Know we know they're going to take a d. Lineman 1353 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 3: we think we were, two we think we, know, yeah 1354 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 3: the over unders two point five and. 1355 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 2: But, STEVE i cannot remember a time where the depth 1356 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: For buffalo's offensive line was as talented as this group. 1357 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 2: Is you could make the, ARGUMENT i think that you 1358 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 2: could find a handful of teams Where Alec, Anderson Cedric Van, Priant, 1359 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 2: Granger Ryan, vandermark And Tyland grabil would, start would start. 1360 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 3: Start those are your, Four those are four. Backups and 1361 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 3: that's that's not. 1362 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 2: HYPERBOLE i didn't say ten, teams BUT i think five 1363 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 2: or six teams would take him as. 1364 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Starters, yes and they would certainly be in competition to 1365 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 3: start for fifteen teams even if they. 1366 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 2: DON'T i, mean that's how deep the old line is 1367 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 2: here right. NOW i can't remember it being. 1368 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 3: This vandermark can, play really, Play Van Priant, GRANGER i 1369 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,559 Speaker 3: think he's going to be a player that's gonna plug 1370 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,599 Speaker 3: in and play when he gets called on, if if and. 1371 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 3: When And Tayland grabl good, grief the guy was the 1372 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 3: swing tackle at the start of the, year a rookie. Six, 1373 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 3: hey you can say what you. Want he may have 1374 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 3: some durability concerns because he you, know it can stay 1375 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 3: healthy or they. 1376 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 2: Just had the core muscle injury last. 1377 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 3: Year but he won he won the swing tackle job 1378 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,759 Speaker 3: for The Buffalo bills last year in training camp as a. Rookie, 1379 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 3: yeah That's i've got high hopes for. 1380 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Him yeah. IT i, mean so you're in that seventeen 1381 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 2: year playoffs. Drought The bills didn't even have five starters 1382 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 2: as good as the group we haven't, now, right and 1383 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 2: then the depth behind. Them back then they were like 1384 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 2: BORDERLINE nfl. Players now you've got guys they could probably 1385 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 2: start in a handful of other places and they're backups. 1386 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 2: Here that's, crazy. 1387 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,600 Speaker 3: Right So yea's a great. Thing was a great place to, 1388 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,680 Speaker 3: be no. Question and but if you've got a philosophy 1389 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 3: Like steve From iowa says draft one every year. Anyway, 1390 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 3: yeah they did it last, year hear. It but they 1391 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 3: did it With Van Prank grainger and last. Year so 1392 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 3: and they've done it in the. Past they they. 1393 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: They've kind of stockpiled, there AND i think they're in 1394 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 2: a good. Spot yeah, YEAH i mean they're all under, 1395 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Contract the starters are all under. 1396 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 3: Contract with these hypothetical what. Ifs but you, know so you, 1397 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 3: might you might not bills where they were as successful 1398 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 3: drafting defensive linemen as they have been offensive. Linemen, yeah 1399 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 3: go back to the guys they've Traded Wyatt. Teller the 1400 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 3: only guy that they really didn't Was Cody. 1401 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 2: Ford, cody but he's still in the league. Playing, yeah 1402 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 2: he just signed a two year extension with The. 1403 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,719 Speaker 3: Bengals Dion spencer. 1404 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 2: Yep now mcgovernor signed his, agency same, Thing. Torrance you Know. 1405 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 3: Abel van P i Mean Alec. 1406 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,560 Speaker 2: Anderson, yeah and they have who was an undrafted. 1407 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 3: Player unsuccessful draft on the d, line but you know 1408 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,640 Speaker 3: got because you got starters and guys they've extended With 1409 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 3: Epanessa rousseau at. 1410 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 2: All In oliver so Even daiquon got a second deal 1411 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,479 Speaker 2: here and after they signed him in free. 1412 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 3: Agency, it's, uh it's, interesting BUT i think it's really 1413 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,759 Speaker 3: a foundational belief by this front office and coaching. Staff 1414 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,759 Speaker 3: never never let yourself get caught without good ol'd, lineman 1415 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 3: d lineman you. 1416 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 2: Know, yeah because they experienced it. Firsthand in twenty, eighteen you, 1417 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 2: Know Eric wood has to retire unexpectedly because of a neck. 1418 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Injury incognitos out the door and now your best two 1419 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,799 Speaker 2: interior alignment are. Gone, right how did twenty eighteen? 1420 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 3: Look and that's a team that would would not so. 1421 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 3: Good that's a team that would have been much much. 1422 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,559 Speaker 3: Better had those guys been able to play and play 1423 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 3: in the, strength they would have been much. 1424 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 2: Better we've been able to run the ball. BETTER i know, that, Right. 1425 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 3: And so you think about all of that that you 1426 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 3: think you're looking at a guy Like Josh allen who'd 1427 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,680 Speaker 3: have been in the playoffs every single year of his. 1428 01:11:55,720 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Career, yeah. Potentially, Yeah so interesting discussion, there and as 1429 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 2: a discussion we'll continue to have with, you as you, 1430 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 2: know we want to know you tell us what is 1431 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 2: that dark horse position that you feel The bills may 1432 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 2: take higher than expected in this year's. Draft i'm not 1433 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 2: convinced ON o, line but just because of the depth 1434 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 2: that they, HAVE i think linebackers kind of a sneaky. 1435 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 2: Possibility Running back is another one we, took and that 1436 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 2: makes sense to me too in light of where things 1437 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 2: currently stand With James. Cook if you're preparing for the, 1438 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 2: FUTURE i could see that. Happening BUT i think off 1439 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 2: the BOARD o. Line now you know what could happen 1440 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 2: at the end of the. Draft the tight end could 1441 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 2: be taken at the end of the draft because right 1442 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 2: Now Quentin morris is, unsigned he's a free. Agent AND 1443 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,839 Speaker 2: i know you Have Zach davidson on a reserve futures, 1444 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 2: contract guy that got called up for one game last 1445 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 2: year from the practice. Squad but you need a tight 1446 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 2: end that can do a lot of the dirty work 1447 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,559 Speaker 2: Like Quentin morris. Did AND i WOULDN'T i wouldn't put 1448 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 2: that out of the realm of. Possibility On day, three, 1449 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 2: somewhere you, know one of those six round, picks you 1450 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,600 Speaker 2: have maybe a flyer on a tight, End, yeah be 1451 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 2: your third tight end on the. Roster. 1452 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 3: Thing you get to day three and all the lid 1453 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 3: comes off every. Position it's best player you think, available 1454 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,559 Speaker 3: the guy that you think can make your. Team you 1455 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 3: think it's the, best the guy that you think best 1456 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 3: has the best chance to making your. Squad and that 1457 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it's a running, back corner, guard, Whatever 1458 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,600 Speaker 3: and that doesn't Even and you get deep enough in 1459 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,800 Speaker 3: the draft and it's it's, LIKE i don't think any 1460 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 3: of these guys are going to make our, team but 1461 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 3: we've got to take. Somebody, Yeah so then you're taking 1462 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 3: the guy with the best traits and hope the upside. 1463 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 2: Hits, yeah gotta take a break, here but we're gonna 1464 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 2: take more of your phone calls when we come. Back, 1465 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 2: nick And South buffalo is going to lead us off 1466 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 2: and others holding at eight h three oh five point. 1467 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 2: Fifty but there are some in lines for, you so 1468 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 2: chime in if you wish on a dark horse. Position 1469 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 2: you could see The bills taking maybe a little earlier 1470 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 2: than usual in this, draft and tell us why we're 1471 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 2: back in a flash here On One Bill's. Live stay with, 1472 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 2: us all, right welcome back To One Bill's. Live Chris, 1473 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,679 Speaker 2: Brown Steve tasker with, you right back to the. Phone 1474 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 2: as we go where we're asking you for a dark horse. 1475 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 2: Position you could see The bills drafting maybe a little 1476 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 2: earlier and expected or anything else draft. Related it's all 1477 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,759 Speaker 2: fair game today On One Bill's. Live To nick In South, 1478 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 2: buffalo we, go what do you got for? 1479 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 5: Us? 1480 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,760 Speaker 6: Nick, hey how's it? 1481 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 13: Going chris good how's it? 1482 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 7: Going steve Good man the? 1483 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 6: Show, Hey, steve just want to say it real. Quick 1484 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,879 Speaker 6: you killed it on The sabers game broadcast? 1485 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 7: Today thanks really? 1486 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:55,679 Speaker 6: DID i don't necessarily have like a dark horse, Position 1487 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 6: BUT i think there's definitely going to be a dark 1488 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 6: horse Player bean drafts in a later round that's going 1489 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 6: to really make an. Impact BUT i also wanted to 1490 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 6: make this, point do you think That Bean i'm not 1491 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 6: gonna say he struggles in the early, rounds BUT i 1492 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 6: mean he's had some misses With Boogie basham And Cody. 1493 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 6: Ford do you think do you think THE sec players 1494 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 6: get too? MUCH i don't want to say like. 1495 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 13: Props but like THE sec, players there's a lot OF 1496 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,839 Speaker 13: sec players in the top one, hundred and Like Kyer 1497 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 13: elam was a first round, Pick Christian benford was a 1498 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 13: sixth round pick and he vastly outperformed. Him i'm just 1499 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 13: at this, point do you think THESE acc players can 1500 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 13: make a bigger impact and they just don't get the 1501 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 13: chance considering they didn't play that much competition in THE. 1502 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 13: Acc that's just really WHAT i want to get. 1503 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 2: To, YEAH i think, YEAH i think it's kind of 1504 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 2: hard to quantify. 1505 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 6: It. 1506 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:03,640 Speaker 2: Only because you're you're using a, conference an entire, conference 1507 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 2: to assess the caliber of the. Player that's a part 1508 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 2: of the, evaluation BUT i would argue it's not even 1509 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 2: a majority of the. Evaluation does it help if you 1510 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 2: have a prospect that's uber talented and has production in 1511 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 2: a conference like THE. Sec, absolutely there's no debating that 1512 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,640 Speaker 2: it's an attractive thing to have on your, Resume BUT 1513 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 2: i don't think it's the majority of what makes up 1514 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 2: the evaluation on a, prospect if that makes. Sense. Now 1515 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 2: at the same, time there are, instances and you see 1516 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 2: this primarily with small school, prospects where they are negatively 1517 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 2: graded because of the level of competition they. Faced oh 1518 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 2: well the guy had twelve. Interceptions well, yeah but he's 1519 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 2: PLAYING fcs, football you, know against guys that are probably 1520 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 2: going to be accountants, and As steve says all the, 1521 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 2: time dental. Students so there is some proof that has 1522 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 2: to be in the, pudding which is why The Senior 1523 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 2: bowl is so important for those small school. Guys THE 1524 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 2: acc was down this. YEAR i don't think there's any 1525 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 2: question about. That Florida state has been struggling to be. 1526 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 2: Relevant you, know had a good year two years, ago 1527 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 2: then fell back down again this. Year clemson's trying to 1528 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 2: get back up to supreme national prominence where they were you, know, 1529 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,760 Speaker 2: five six years, ago maybe even ten years. Ago and 1530 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,599 Speaker 2: there are teams that are fighting to be relevant in 1531 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 2: that conference in. Football Even Virginia tech has fallen on 1532 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 2: hard times and they're kind of a middle of the 1533 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 2: road team in that, conference, so you, know and they've 1534 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,559 Speaker 2: traditionally been a good football producing. School so, YEAH i 1535 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,360 Speaker 2: get where you're coming. FROM i think maybe there are 1536 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 2: some instances where teams value AN sec player too highly 1537 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 2: because of the conference they play, in and then they're. 1538 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 2: Disappointed BUT i think you can find that with prospects 1539 01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:01,680 Speaker 2: from every, conference at least the four majors and you, 1540 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 2: know a, fifth you, know or even some of the 1541 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 2: higher mid major. 1542 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 3: Conferences here's the here's the. Thing THE sec gets a 1543 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 3: lot of players because they pay the most. Money, yeah 1544 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 3: and that used to be, said you know, us you, 1545 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,639 Speaker 3: know it's one of the. Way that's the way it is. Now, 1546 01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:26,839 Speaker 3: also the evaluation process goes well beyond THE, sec because 1547 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 3: you get it Like Ray, davis for, instance he comes 1548 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 3: In lands In. Buffalo he had a thousand yards rushing 1549 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,759 Speaker 3: for three different, schools two. 1550 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 2: Of which were in The we're in The, Yeah vanderbilt In. 1551 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 3: Kentucky so the the evaluation process is on an individual. 1552 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 3: Basis it depends on where that guy. Played they can 1553 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 3: tell they've seen the guy, play and in this day and, 1554 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 3: age the top guys in the, draft they get evaluated 1555 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 3: at that all the schools they went To arkansas, then you, 1556 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 3: know transferring over To South carolina's looking at running back 1557 01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 3: now he's you, know he's he's out Of South carolina game. 1558 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,720 Speaker 3: Cock well you look at his his. Highlight he's In, arkansas, 1559 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 3: Right so all that goes into the mix. Too so 1560 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 3: this evaluation process is kind of in a fluid era 1561 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 3: right now because you've got these guys who play for 1562 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,440 Speaker 3: a couple of different. SCHOOLS i mean look At Jalen, hurts, 1563 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 3: RIGHT i mean he played he played With, alabama then 1564 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:26,600 Speaker 3: went To. Oklahoma all. That you, Know so the, conferences, 1565 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 3: yeah you can make you can make a case for you, 1566 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 3: know THE sec gets a lot of players because they you, 1567 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 3: know the budget's big AND i get. It and it's. 1568 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 3: True it's a it's a fact, now not just like 1569 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 3: a tongue in, cheek you, know under the table. Fact 1570 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,600 Speaker 3: it's a. Fact and you saw it in THE Ncaa Basketball. 1571 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Tournament very few. 1572 01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 2: Upsets fourteen teams from THE sec there. 1573 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 3: Too, yeah for the very few, upsets the team that 1574 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,280 Speaker 3: was seated, higher was seated higher because they had better, 1575 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 3: players because their payroll is. Bigger. YEP i, mean look 1576 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 3: at Major League baseball right at the there's there's some 1577 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 3: exceptions to, it but you, know The dodgers are gonna. 1578 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 3: Win so, yeah the same thing in THE sec and 1579 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 3: THE acc and all this THAT i think the evaluation 1580 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 3: process you're you're kind of putting AND i get, it 1581 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 3: you're putting a little bit of a you, Know, chris 1582 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,679 Speaker 3: you're putting an institutional spin on this that is really 1583 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 3: an individual thing for each of these. Players so. 1584 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,679 Speaker 2: It's a part of the. Evaluation it is the eval. 1585 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 3: Believe, Me, SCOUTS. Gms THE nfl takes great pride in 1586 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 3: being able to see through the fanboy in all of, 1587 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 3: us where we're big fans Of, alabama we're big fans Of, 1588 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 3: auburn we're big fans Of Ohio, state and we're big 1589 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 3: fans Of flora all those. Things they see through all of, 1590 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 3: that and you, Know, georgia all those. Teams they they 1591 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 3: don't get caught up in what we get caught up. 1592 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 3: In they do notice who the guy's playing. Against though 1593 01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,839 Speaker 3: that does count for, something it's. 1594 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 2: Just not the overriding part of the. Evaluation let's go 1595 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 2: To tom on the west side. Next what's Up, Tom. 1596 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 14: Hey, guys good. Afternoon, First i'd like to say hi 1597 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 14: To judy And, butch and thank you guys for the 1598 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 14: shoutout the other. Day, steve you. Bet, Yeah i'm wondering 1599 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 14: if they're talking good or bad about. 1600 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 2: US i don't. Know you might have to get yourself an. Agent. Tom, 1601 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah i'm pretty popular. 1602 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:30,639 Speaker 14: Here, okay as far as the last, caller look At Josh. 1603 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 14: Allen he came From, wyoming you, Know cooper To, jean 1604 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,560 Speaker 14: he came from The. Mac The bills have three players 1605 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 14: on the roster FROM. Ub you can get players from, 1606 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 14: anywhere and even you were talking About Ray Davis. Villanova but, 1607 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,840 Speaker 14: anyway my dark course would be if The bills drafted all, 1608 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 14: defense nothing on. Offense BECAUSE i can see a need 1609 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 14: at wide, receiver AND i can see it need at running. 1610 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 14: Back BUT i see The bills trading up in the 1611 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,920 Speaker 14: later rounds to get better, stock and it would amaze 1612 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 14: me if they drafted all defensive. Players go ahead and 1613 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:13,559 Speaker 14: talk about. 1614 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 2: It, YEAH i mean it could happen more often than, 1615 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,519 Speaker 2: not because they did a little digging during The bean McDermott. 1616 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 2: Era in six of the eight drafts since McDermott got, 1617 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 2: here they've been dead even offense. Defense there's only two 1618 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,760 Speaker 2: instances where they win a little heavier offense or a 1619 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 2: little heavier. DEFENSE i don't think that's by. DESIGN i 1620 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 2: just think it's kind of happened that way because there's 1621 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 2: so many variables involved in the. Draft BUT i do 1622 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 2: tend to think this is gonna be defense heavy. DRAFT 1623 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 2: i think three quarters of the picks will be on 1624 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the, ball at. 1625 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 3: LEAST i haven't talked To Brandon bean about. THIS i 1626 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 3: don't really know if it's, true but it seems to 1627 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 3: mean logical that when you get into the day three 1628 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 3: of the, draft it's easier to justify a, fifth, sixth 1629 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,519 Speaker 3: seventh round draft pick based on, need you, know because 1630 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,759 Speaker 3: all these are going to be real rolls of the dice, 1631 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 3: anyway and the tools are. Evident how tall is the, 1632 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,160 Speaker 3: guy how strong is the, guy how heavy is the, 1633 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,640 Speaker 3: guy how fast is? He you can measure all, that 1634 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,200 Speaker 3: and if you get a guy that's off the charts 1635 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 3: and all of, that and he's got at a position of, 1636 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 3: need and you've got coaches which The bills obviously, do 1637 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,840 Speaker 3: and a culture that says we're going to get the 1638 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 3: best out of. Him let's take that, guy that's the 1639 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 3: spot we. Need let's take, him and, then you know, 1640 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,960 Speaker 3: what let's take another one just in, case and then 1641 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 3: we got another need on the same side of the. 1642 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 3: Ball let's let's do that same thing over. Here, yeah 1643 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 3: you can see. IT i have a hard time, getting you, 1644 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,040 Speaker 3: know ten out of ten picks on, defense but you're, 1645 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,760 Speaker 3: right that would be a dark horse. Happening if they did, 1646 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 3: that that would be that would be worthy of a. 1647 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 3: Story you'd, get you get some national attention for. 1648 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,080 Speaker 2: That let's go To mark And Jersey city. Next pull 1649 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 2: him up. Here what do you got for? 1650 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 5: Us mark, thought good, afternoon, gentlemen thanks for taking my. 1651 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,960 Speaker 5: Call i'd boring guard because they're light in that. AREA 1652 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 5: i Know Alec, anderson but he's their six offensive lineman 1653 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,120 Speaker 5: and he was a little dinged up last. Year they're 1654 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:09,920 Speaker 5: obviously going to use that a. LOT i would say 1655 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 5: tight end is one be they're really light. THERE i, 1656 01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 5: know was It Rogers he tore his achilles in a, 1657 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,799 Speaker 5: workout but they haven't really announced that. Yet but somebody 1658 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 5: like that a guy you're familiar with From Georgia, fairchild 1659 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 5: is that his? Name C. B, yep he's. Good he's 1660 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 5: a good. Player they have another center that took right 1661 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 5: over for ran Parent. Granger that's pretty pretty good up. 1662 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 2: There, Yeah Jared, wilson. 1663 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 5: So somebody like. That they it's always good to just 1664 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,639 Speaker 5: replenish that area BECAUSE i don't think he ever wants 1665 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,880 Speaker 5: twenty eighteens ever happened, again especially To. Josh thanks for 1666 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 5: taking my, call, Guys yeah. 1667 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:51,520 Speaker 2: Sure saying, yeah it's. Interesting, STEVE i have to say 1668 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,840 Speaker 2: The bill's fan base might be the BIGGEST O line 1669 01:24:55,880 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 2: loving fan base this side of The, rockies because when 1670 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 2: we TALK O, line people come out of the. Woodwork 1671 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 2: AND i mean today we Had butch talking about The booker, 1672 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 2: kid the guard From, alabama got another call From mark 1673 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,799 Speaker 2: ABOUT O line and we had one other call About 1674 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 2: Old line today as a dark horse, pick and LOOK 1675 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 2: i get. It you, Know Mike edwards is the undrafted, 1676 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,640 Speaker 2: kid the, behemoth the guy that the first day of 1677 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 2: camp you, said who is that? 1678 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 3: Guy? Right, yeah goes like three forty, three and he's 1679 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 3: he doesn't look three forty. Three he looks like he's 1680 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 3: he's just bigger than everybody. Else, yeah he's like six,' 1681 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 3: six he's shaped the same as all. Those guys so. 1682 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,719 Speaker 2: He's listed as a backup guard Along With. Alec anderson 1683 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,839 Speaker 2: you Still Have richard garage in the pipeline guard, slash 1684 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,640 Speaker 2: tackle and You Have Travis Clayton wor you're drafted in 1685 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: the seventh round. Last year he's projected as a tackle 1686 01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,599 Speaker 2: because he's. Six seven, so, YEAH guard i could see 1687 01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 2: your way. TO guard i could. Get there and it's 1688 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 2: supposed to be a better interior o line class than 1689 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 2: offensive tack. 1690 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 3: Few tackles that are projected as being you know right, 1691 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Away guys, so yeah yeah they May and i'll say, 1692 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 3: this too they're gonna. Do it if they feel like 1693 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 3: the guy can, really play they're gonna grab him and 1694 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 3: they'll just throw him into the mix and let him 1695 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 3: compete with the cream rise to. The, top yeah the 1696 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 3: cream rises at. The top everything else gets thrown over. 1697 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,559 Speaker 3: The side that's the way. 1698 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 2: It is break time for, us here one final segment. 1699 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,040 Speaker 2: To go we'll try to squeeze in a, phone call 1700 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 2: maybe get a thought on. The tweets sheeet next Year 1701 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 2: On One Bill's live Stay with us all right back 1702 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,160 Speaker 2: here on One Of Bill's Live, Chris Brown steve tasker 1703 01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,679 Speaker 2: with you and want to squeeze in one more. Phone 1704 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 2: call here we go to Alec. In lencaster what do you, 1705 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 2: Got First, alex Okay It's, Alan, Okay, Alan sorry i'm 1706 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 2: just reading what's on The screen here' sorry. 1707 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 12: About that, no problem, No Problem and i'm not calling 1708 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 12: about an. Offensive Line so i'm calling about giving up an. 1709 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:23,280 Speaker 12: OFFENSIVE line i was taken by the conversation you had 1710 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:28,639 Speaker 12: a few. Calls, ago yeah with the call is saying 1711 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 12: how much reserve? We, have well if that's so one, 1712 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 12: of them maybe one that's maybe in a, third year 1713 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 12: maybe can be used package with a fourth round draft 1714 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 12: choice and be able to. 1715 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,679 Speaker 17: Move, up yeah it's. 1716 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:56,280 Speaker 12: So not only that, that person that that offensive lineman 1717 01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 12: has extra value because he's on a. Rookie contract so 1718 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 12: we use. Extra Value the bills can't hold on to 1719 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 12: all of. These guys so why wouldn't one of these 1720 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 12: GUYS be, I mean I'm Sure brandon bean has thought. 1721 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 12: Of this why wouldn't one of these guys be used a? 1722 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 2: Trade, BAIT yeah i wouldn't rule. 1723 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:16,519 Speaker 7: It. 1724 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 2: Out alan we've actually discussed that on. The show the 1725 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 2: one position they are heavy at, is tackle and they 1726 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 2: just Re Signed ryan vandermark to a one. Year deal 1727 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 2: And as, steve said that guy could start in a lot, 1728 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,800 Speaker 2: of PLACES and i would Imagine the bills have probably 1729 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,400 Speaker 2: taken calls this offseason to see what kind of the 1730 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 2: availability there is. 1731 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 3: For, him yeah the problem is he's on a one. 1732 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,720 Speaker 2: Year, DEAL well i don't think that's a problem because it's. 1733 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 3: Super, affordable well, it's affordable but it's also a one 1734 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,840 Speaker 3: year deal and you're giving up a long term draft 1735 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 3: pick who could turn into. The guy, oh yeah but you. 1736 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 2: Might be desperate enough to get a starting caliber tackle 1737 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,640 Speaker 2: that you know, more about that you've seen play in. 1738 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 3: This league it might depend if you, can get, you 1739 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 3: know in a week. 1740 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Tackle draft If. 1741 01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 3: The bills gave him a player and, two five two 1742 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 3: of their five, fifth rounders like sixty nine, and seventy 1743 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 3: let's see what you. Can, get yeah you might be 1744 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 3: able to jump into the. 1745 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,599 Speaker 2: Third, round yeah it's in a stuid point allan. And 1746 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 2: one we've DISCUSSED and i would not rule it. 1747 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 3: Out if you find the. Right, team yeah you can. 1748 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 3: Do it you can. 1749 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:20,720 Speaker 1: Do that. 1750 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,760 Speaker 3: The one year deal is probably the only. Sticking point 1751 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 3: but that's. Not bad if the guy comes in and 1752 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 3: plays well and you offer him a, good deal then they'll. Pay. 1753 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 2: Him yeah, you know they'll be happy to have a 1754 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 2: starting caliber tackle. 1755 01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,080 Speaker 3: And the guy wants and every player wants to get 1756 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 3: on the field. And, play yeah SO maybe i would 1757 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 3: be the. Two guy if It is vandermark we're talking about, 1758 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:41,160 Speaker 3: OR somebody. 1759 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 2: I would not rule it out as a possibility on. 1760 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 2: Draft weekend that's it for. Us today we are back 1761 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 2: tomorrow and guess what more draft talk coming. Your way 1762 01:29:49,400 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 2: we'll see you one f