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Speaker 2: In Love Lazy Sunday the video. Yeah, and we are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I'm like having trouble been listening because.

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Speaker 3: Now you're remember running lady. I can see it kind

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hamilton's. It's about the Hamilton's. And those guys are

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Speaker 2: doing rap is like, well too, honestly, let's say it

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Speaker 2: I mean that in itself was enough to be comedy, right,

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Speaker 2: and this is like two thousand and six. But then

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Speaker 2: Oh no, Hey, so it's got the giant it's being

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Speaker 2: pummeled by the giant waves that you can see, and

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's got to make a mess,

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Speaker 2: then you don't want to put your hand in there, no,

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Speaker 3: Why do I have this? What is the like? What

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was a gift. Sorry, Oh my god, I

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Speaker 2: knew it came from. So what I forgot? I forgot

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Speaker 2: what would Hayes not expect? Now, a macrowave oven? No,

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Habook and Insider's Guide to kicking button, dropping name the

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Speaker 1: red carpet lineback hallways of the industry biz And if.

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Speaker 2: You say the word showbiz, who appears? He appears like

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Speaker 2: freaking the beetlejuice man. But it's John Levinstein say showbiz

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Speaker 2: three times in John's here did somebody say showbiz?

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Speaker 3: Basically? Right? I love the introduction. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: John Levenstein is doing doing a podcast?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And it's John Levinstein's Retired Mint Party and he is

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Speaker 3: Do we even have time? Also a TV judge? Is

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Speaker 2: Are you mad at Judge John Hodgman? That should have

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Speaker 5: I'm mad at every judge on television. I would say

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Doug, Like Doug, you're the marijuana guy, Like

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Speaker 2: list some of the shows that you wrote for Jeff?

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Speaker 1: He must enjoy doing that, Chef Kevin, just politely and

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Speaker 3: Why would I be doing a podcast about my career?

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Speaker 3: His mother invented liquid paper.

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Speaker 2: Well, I go back into what we were doing. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'll do what we always do now here at Dear Wolf,

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Speaker 2: it's becoming more and more popular. I'm going to spank Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a good.

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Speaker 2: Can we give a couple of wild spanks, just get

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Speaker 2: a whole reel of them.

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Speaker 2: We wanted so on the show the retirement party.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like Kevin's playing very close to invest

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Speaker 3: It's the most famous he's ever been. If he ignowedged,

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Speaker 3: you can't risk you can't risk that. Okay, I got it.

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Speaker 3: I respect you, Kevin. Hey, guys, chef govin here. Thanks job.

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Speaker 3: So the show you're doing, retirement party show?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you tell stories from showbiz on it.

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Speaker 5: I lovely you say stories because that's how I feel

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Speaker 3: Too, right, stories? Yes, yes, the wonder, where's the wonder?

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Speaker 5: I feel like what I'm doing more though, is I'm

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Speaker 3: Well we're not.

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Speaker 2: We haven't been part of different periods of your career

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Speaker 1: We have I'm on your show, you know, I know,

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Speaker 2: I love to hear stories. Yes, I was consulting.

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Speaker 5: Inside the set which was already inside. This was writer's

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Oh yeah, and you were.

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Speaker 2: There, Oh yes, No, I so the bee, I'm I

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Speaker 2: and I remember turning to Hayes and I just thought, well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've been looking for a way to monetize it,

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Speaker 5: I worked with someone once where there was a spill

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Speaker 3: This is how this happens. This is how what happened

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Speaker 3: Rough housing. Yeah, but in a comedy room. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need his name because Craig Crown.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and he's a friend not of mine. Uh oh,

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Speaker 2: and here we go the first big fight on the show.

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Speaker 3: And in comedy.

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Speaker 2: Tradition, let's wrestle you and I. Oh boy, let's start

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Speaker 2: rough housing, horse play.

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Speaker 3: This is how this happens.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is how this happens. So we have to

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Speaker 3: To have you here. Yeah. Every year, very consistently we do.

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Speaker 1: When it's time for the new pilots, we give sort

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Speaker 2: Last time that we did it, I think the new

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Speaker 3: Clips of all the table reads.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't think we'll do that today because it's

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Speaker 3: Yes, and man, there were.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John is television in the best state it's ever been.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of choices.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's so many options, each better than the next.

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Speaker 2: Now have you found this to be true? It's unbelievable. Right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've found and you can watch two things at once.

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Speaker 5: Last night during the World Series, they were shrinking the

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Speaker 2: Second screen they're doing that now. Second screen experience and

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm always on the show's website as well.

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Speaker 3: But I like to be it, but I like to

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Speaker 5: I don't want the TV showing me the show's website

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Speaker 2: I'm always reading the Twitter feed of the writing staff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the writer's room has to have their own

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Speaker 3: They always stay with it, which I love that.

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Speaker 1: It's never just something that the writer's room does in

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Speaker 2: Like all the craziest quotes are going in the feed.

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Speaker 2: This is not getting lost.

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Speaker 1: They never just a and then it after like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like to go on the show's website.

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Speaker 2: I have my Asis Transformer pad out right next to

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Speaker 2: I remember years ago, John, I worked on a show

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Speaker 3: And Lanie.

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Speaker 2: He'd be on a big comedy tour and he'd go

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Speaker 2: And that's the kind of thing that I think makes

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Speaker 3: Of course, they did not let.

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Speaker 2: Lonnie no, no, no, no, no, no. Lonnie was on

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Speaker 3: Right, why didn't they get Fallon?

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Speaker 5: They must sometimes, right, because they're speaking sort of a

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Speaker 5: We're a golden couple, right, so let's just do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: The new shows that just came out. We were talking growing

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Speaker 5: It's all over the map, network, pay cable basically TV

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Speaker 3: Yes, what's one of the shows.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one of the big ones that I'm into, Well,

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Speaker 3: Well, a racket is a racket is a web? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so and honestly, if you really think about it,

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Speaker 2: And coach oh he was seen at home.

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Speaker 2: It's a better title, but it was too clever. They go, well,

445
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't tell you what it is. And let's say

446
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,239
Speaker 2: we're making those for the flyover States, and some of

447
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: those people are going to hear the flyover flyover states

448
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: in this case is the states that have flies over everything.

449
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 3: And so the fantasy of a spider.

450
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 2: Yes, they can buy a tennis lesson, but then go, hey,

451
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: can you case I've got.

452
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: Oh my god, deal with the flies.

453
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: You're saying right, yes, to eat them, to eat the flies. Yeah,

454
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: they get caught in the in the test racket and

455
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: the and the net.

456
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Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Do you have any

457
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: friends working on this h on this show? They must

458
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: have gone out to you.

459
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 5: I feel like I heard a lot about the show, right,

460
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: and I understand the process, and it seemed like one

461
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 5: of those shows. The more I heard about were like

462
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 5: the technical people are going to take over you know,

463
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 5: because you're not training spiders to do all these things.

464
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 5: So ultimately, I'm a comedy writer, but I'm like in

465
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 5: the hands of like some editor who says I can

466
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 5: do this, I can't.

467
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: Do that, and he's probably lying to me.

468
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 5: And it's like that like Son of Zorn thing right,

469
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 5: Like ultimately, like, yeah, it's animation. So the comedy writers

470
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 5: lewis control, and the guy who's going to have control

471
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: is the guy who has control over the spider.

472
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Speaker 3: Over the spider. Yes, yeah, that's right.

473
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: Ultimately it's the spider puppeteer make.

474
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Speaker 3: More graphics or whatever is But however that this case

475
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Speaker 3: is a puppet.

476
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Speaker 2: In this case, it's a puppeteer, it's a spider.

477
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Speaker 3: Marina, Well, that's better.

478
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Speaker 5: That's better than a tech guy because when you've got

479
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Speaker 5: a tech guy in control of it, that's impossible.

480
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Speaker 2: But everyone, but I have heard from people working on

481
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: the show, they'll go to the puppeteer and be like

482
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Speaker 2: can he do this move or this dance?

483
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Speaker 3: And I'd be like, no, I can't do it.

484
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: But it's clear that he has his own dance right

485
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: that he wants the Spider to.

486
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Speaker 5: It's the kind of actor. It's like, can the spider

487
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: do this dance? No, I absolutely can't do it. Well,

488
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 5: could can you do that time?

489
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I can do it. Oh, so what do

490
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: you tell them?

491
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: Okay, the spiders more limited than you are as a person.

492
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 5: That's a choice that actors making it has more legs.

493
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 5: I'll yell at those actors.

494
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Speaker 3: Good.

495
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: I hate the way we limit ourselves.

496
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and actors do it, they'll will fully limit themselves. No,

497
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 5: my character wouldn't do that. Would you do that under

498
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 5: some extreme circumstances, sure, but your character never would give

499
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 5: them On John Barricat.

500
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Speaker 2: Names, I love what we get the names. We finally

501
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: got the name. But that's just one of the shows.

502
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I feel like we should talk about others. Well, there's

503
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago there was pasta Man the

504
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: which was the Restafarian pose Cook And now there's a

505
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: back door pilot of that that is a ram and Dad,

506
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: which I guess is a play on mom and Dad.

507
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Speaker 3: Ram and Dad.

508
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was called so we're gonna call it Instant Family,

509
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: which but then the movie came out at the same

510
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: time and it's like, okay, now it's Ramen Dead. Yeah,

511
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: And it's when I read it it was Roman Mom, okay,

512
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: but then they got Rama Manuel.

513
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Speaker 3: But it all sounds like Ramadan right to me, I

514
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: think that's intentional. Okay, well, I know the sound like

515
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: mom and dad. I don't know.

516
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: The pilot Originally when I read it was in sort

517
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: of like a Rashaman style, and I think they were

518
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: all around trying to get They were like, Ramen is

519
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: close enough that we should be able to do something

520
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: that does sound like it, but it never did so

521
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: because the m's in the wrong place, and so it's

522
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: Rama Manuel and his dad have inherited a Ramen factory

523
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: from his from the mom, who is alive but just

524
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: like doing other stuff. Yeah, she just got has new

525
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: interests I see. And the pilot she's on a flight

526
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: and so and she's going like, I don't know when

527
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna lay in this.

528
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 5: Thing, which to me, that's not how I think of flight.

529
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 5: That's why I didn't like Apollo thirteen. They're just shivering

530
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 5: in a capsule the whole time.

531
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Speaker 3: Yes, this is that's not a movie thing.

532
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, except this time she's in both cases, she's like

533
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: totally past, just sitting there.

534
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 5: When I first heard about the show, but I liked it.

535
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 5: I like the thought because I'm a single father. I

536
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 5: like the thought of like a dad doing the best

537
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 5: he can making ramen for the kid. Like maybe it's

538
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 5: not a five course dinner, but like dad's given the

539
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 5: kid a hot meal, right, yes. But then I tuned

540
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 5: in and I see it's a Ramen factory, and I'm out.

541
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 5: I don't need a business of a romen factory. I

542
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: need a father and a sign. But it's a word

543
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 5: with the noodle.

544
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Speaker 1: But it's a workplace, family thing, which is I don't

545
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: be more popular now.

546
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: I'm fine if they don't even have a Roman. I'm

547
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 5: fine with the Roman dad is. That's a personal relationship

548
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 5: at home. I don't care if they have an insurance

549
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 5: business out in the world.

550
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but the things you don't really see, we can

551
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: go there if we need.

552
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm happy to go to a workplace.

553
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: I don't want to explode the concept that I love

554
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 5: into this big ramen story that it's a little intimate story.

555
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: But you do want to explode. Your pitch would be

556
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: to explode the Ramen factory.

557
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 5: So if we could get rid exploded and like get

558
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 5: rid of it, and that's gone, and now they're just

559
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 5: at home grieving eating ramen.

560
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: Great, okay, because grieving because people did die in it

561
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: in the explosion.

562
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: I think they lost the business.

563
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: Oh they lost this mourning the loss.

564
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: And they lost mom, even the mom's life.

565
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: No.

566
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Speaker 5: I heard a real pitch in the late eighties early nineties,

567
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 5: and this was delivered from Warren Littlefield when he was

568
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 5: at NBC to a friend of mine.

569
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Speaker 3: And your Roman family is reminding me. Here's what I

570
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: just want to say before you do say this. He

571
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: does listen.

572
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 5: I think that's great, Warren. Here's what you pitched. My

573
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: friend don a family show called The Pranks. They wake up,

574
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 5: this is the true story morning till night. It's nothing

575
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 5: but pranks. It's wall to wall pranks with this prank

576
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 5: family right.

577
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: As well.

578
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 5: I think the show is called the Pranks, but maybe

579
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: I think their name was Pranks. Even if it wasn't

580
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: who it's Waldwall Pranks, Like, you know what you're getting

581
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 5: with the prank fant Walter. So my friend goes in,

582
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: here's the pitch for Walter, Walter Wallprank, Walter Wallprank. It's

583
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 5: always a little bit humiliating when the president of the

584
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 5: network is clearly going down the line pitching it to

585
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: writers who are saying no, and so he does the

586
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 5: pitch to my friend and the friend says, I don't really,

587
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: I don't understand what's the show, at which point Warren

588
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 5: Littlefield says, picture breakfast, Picture, picture the.

589
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 3: Picture the toast. So I guess when I heard literally

590
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: just picture the toast.

591
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too big with breakfast, just gives you too

592
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: many things. Picture they can do with the toast and

593
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: then go through the rest of their day.

594
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 5: So, like I hear the Ramen thing, at first, I

595
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: was hopeful, like it's a more sort of post comedy

596
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 5: dramedy version of picture the toast. Yeah, kind of, yeah,

597
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 5: that's why did way go? That's can I say, I've

598
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: been watching a reality show please my friends and I

599
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: call it grease Please. I don't even know what it's called.

600
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: The way is.

601
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: It's a show.

602
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: It's kind of like cops, like, but basically they catch

603
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: restaurants dumping grease down storm drains and.

604
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: So and so it's not called grease police. It should

605
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: become That's just what we call it. I don't even

606
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: know what it's called.

607
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: It's I think it's called saying like it doesn't have

608
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: as good a title, honestly, which is why it's not memorable.

609
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 5: And I always find it by searching grease on the thing,

610
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: because Greece is somewhere in the title. And so sometimes

611
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 5: they'll start it like it's going to be a restaurant story,

612
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 5: but you have a sense of foreboding because you know

613
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 5: they're being busted right right. Sometimes you'll start more like

614
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: with the cops, But ultimately what's building to is this

615
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: moment like did you dump grease down a storm drain?

616
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: And they do, there's a yeah, yes, I did.

617
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Someone embedded there in the restaurant, and like the first

618
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: like someone in like glasses with a camera on the undercover.

619
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 5: They throw so many resources at I mean, they have

620
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: someone embedded, they have someone the outside, they someone the police,

621
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 5: they have someone like inspecting me the restaurants and everything

622
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: has permission. Everything's being shot, and it usually reaches this

623
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 5: incredible thing at the end where the person's like I

624
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: can't believe I did that, Like I can't believe I did.

625
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: I took this short cut? What other kinds of shortcuts

626
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: have I've been taking my life? Like how can I improve

627
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: as a person? And then like all these grease Please,

628
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: which the show should be called. It's like a whole

629
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: support system comes in, like we're going.

630
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: To do better. We're going to.

631
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 5: Everything, and like we're not gonna dump the grease down

632
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 5: of the store, crape, We're going to dispose it properly,

633
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 5: and we're going to raise our children properly, and we're

634
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: going to get in shape.

635
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: You follow them through this whole thing.

636
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: No, no, but you get like at the end, like

637
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna do better. Now, we're gonna do better. I

638
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: just looked it up. It's called the oil foilers.

639
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Why. I guess they're foiling their plans. I just dump

640
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: this cooking, so I.

641
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 5: Must be searching grease and like it comes back to

642
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: you mean oil, like you call it crease please.

643
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: The algorithm, they're so good they find it.

644
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 2: I have so much admiration for the undercover chefs who

645
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: embed themselves with these restaurants for the games, advising a

646
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: menu yes, all the time, knowing they're going to drop

647
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: the hammer on.

648
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like basically when the other people find out

649
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 5: that's not a chef and they've all got kitchen knives,

650
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 5: that's intense.

651
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: Please.

652
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: That is probably the moment every episode where I'm kind

653
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: of watching like this, and for those of you at home,

654
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm putting my hands up to my eye and I'm

655
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: just peeking through two of the fingers.

656
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's the guy who's embedded, like the FBI

657
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 5: is he like spring these guys on to dispose of

658
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 5: the grease more easily, so then we have a show

659
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: and we can catch them, because.

660
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 2: That's yeah, because what are we gonna do just like

661
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: they're not gonna dub the grease, Yeah, we have no show.

662
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: They've got to dub the grease. And we spend all

663
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: this money. If they're not dumping the grease, we've got nothing.

664
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up reality shows. I've been watching

665
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: this one that I really like. It's called Shady in

666
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: the Lamp. It's a romance between eminem and lighting design,

667
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: and so Slim Shady, who's a little bit of band

668
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: in that persona. He's a little older, more of a

669
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: father now, but he still will get back into it

670
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: and he will find the most hardcore h lamp shades,

671
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: track lighting, ball, old schoolhouse, milk glass, sort of covers

672
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: for your overhead lighting. He hates this movement towards led

673
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: these LED cans that they put in all the rooms.

674
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, of course it provides a lot

675
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: of light, but it's way too modern looking for some

676
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: of the homes that he's going into. And just for

677
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: him to find a passion beyond wrap and to have

678
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: a next chapter has been sort of inspiring to me

679
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: as someone who's getting older myself.

680
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 5: Well, because led lights they go with self sufficiency and

681
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: like everyone's an island and I'm not even gonna get

682
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 5: to know my neighbors because I've got solar and I've

683
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: got LEDs. But like getting away from LEDs, it's like,

684
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: let's talk to each other.

685
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: Whereas yes, you have to share.

686
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: The whole community has to get involved with these old.

687
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: We're all wasting energy, so how are we going to

688
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: make energy?

689
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, Yes, it's a community thing now, Kevin,

690
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: I know you've been feeling like you haven't been involved as.

691
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: Much in the show lately.

692
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: You're just kind of lingering at the table looking for

693
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get involved. So you can say one

694
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: of your favorite shows from this new season.

695
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 6: Well, I was going to suggest, do you know the

696
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 6: show America American Horror Story, Like, oh, Jesus Ken, Like,

697
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 6: what if it's America's Horror Story and it's a documentary

698
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 6: and every single person tells the scariest story they ever heard.

699
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: The scariest one they've ever heard I've watched.

700
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean some of them would just be telling

701
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 5: episodes of American Horror Story, honestly.

702
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And why do you have to change the I mean,

703
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: I guess because the other show already exists. But what

704
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: you're describing could also be called American Horror Story. To

705
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: tag it to America's doesn't really seem essential. Well, but

706
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: I like that you can franchise it because then you

707
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: bring this over as Romanay.

708
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: But that's Grants's horror story.

709
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 5: I like this sort of medicated, doped out look that

710
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: comes over Kevin's face when he likes the show. When

711
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: he loves the show, he gets such a stupid look

712
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: on his face. You guys, so this is not something

713
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: that exists. This is an idea that you have because

714
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 5: we're talking about show, is Kevin.

715
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a show.

716
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Instead of seeing a scary story dramatized with actors, it's

717
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: different people, different Americans telling this telling a scary story.

718
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, And.

719
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 5: At the end, America actually sort of takes ownership in

720
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 5: these stories, and America has heard because once we've told them,

721
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: they belong to that's ry.

722
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: And so is there a competition element or we're just

723
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: kind of going one by one through these people telling

724
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: their stories.

725
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 6: It could be a competition and each one ends with

726
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: the person saying, and that's America's horror story.

727
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: And that's and that makes it a competition.

728
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoever kind of sticks the landing live from New York.

729
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: I mean that's america story. I mean people like convention,

730
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 5: they like that.

731
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

732
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: Kevin was pitching me something earlier this week based on

733
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: the pranks. He was he had heard your story about

734
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: the pranks before and he wanted to do a show

735
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: called the Spanks.

736
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: It's like, it's me, It's.

737
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: P f T.

738
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Speaker 7: Scott Lais picture of the dost Christmas Counted Breakfast, picture

739
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Speaker 7: of the dos.

740
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: Kevin is shutting down again. He can't take these risks.

741
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 5: Come on, don't do this to Kevin.

742
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, what do we have?

743
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: Are there any other shows that all the show?

744
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 5: There was one that I think was stolen from me?

745
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 5: Oh okay, did you guys ever like tweet about something

746
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 5: and then it's a real show, like, don't do it, okay,

747
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: don't do your show pitches on social media, you guys,

748
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: because people read social media.

749
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: So a couple of years ago I had an idea.

750
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 2: Ship my dad says, I want to say, then you.

751
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: Exactly, and that's tart, that's targeted.

752
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 5: But what I did wasn't target I was just like

753
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: spray hitting late at night, what's a show idea? And

754
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 5: I happened to land on something that like hit a nerve,

755
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: which is that moms, oh, don't put themselves first. And

756
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: you've got these moms right where it's time to finally, Mom,

757
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: how can you take care of the family if you

758
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 5: don't put yourself first? So, like the show is called

759
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: Mom's Oxygen First, and it's based on that wonderful thing

760
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: that the flight shian says, Mom, Yes, not always moms whoever, adults,

761
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: if you wist any sist, do your own oxygen first,

762
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 5: take care of yourself, don't neglect yourself, and then you

763
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 5: can take it your famili So you've got a family.

764
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 4: And the show's called Mom's Oxygen First. You've got a show,

765
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: and it's like you've got mom who hasn't been taking

766
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 4: care of herself. And consequently the families take, you know,

767
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 4: falling apart, and Mom's like, I can't take care of myself.

768
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 5: That would be selfish. We're falling apart as a family.

769
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: You've got to take care of yourself. Mom starts taking

770
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 5: care of herself, the family starts flourishing. And so I'm

771
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: writing a boat on Twitter like an idiot, and so

772
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 5: what comes on TV this, Well, Mom's oxygen first, unbelievable.

773
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: I just want to explain to people that don't know.

774
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: You said you were spray hitting and that is baseball, yes, like, well,

775
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a hash oil thing.

776
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: It's like it's a drug. You also call it baseball

777
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: or playing pepper, I guess is.

778
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: Kind of a yeah, sure, that's that's inferioding you.

779
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: Was it a thread?

780
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: I just, you know, I thread myself of course, like

781
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 5: an idiot. So I laid out the show.

782
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: The entire thing, laid it, oh Bible, a thread. I

783
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: made it all clear.

784
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm like, by the way, everyone, this

785
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: doesn't take place on a plane.

786
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: That's a metaphor.

787
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: There's a big speech from the pilot about oxygen.

788
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: Instead of a speech from the pilot. It's like, it's

789
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: more like reever on a plane.

790
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 5: It probably should have said it on a plane, but

791
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 5: wh It's more like a character is like ever on

792
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 5: a plane and the flight and says this thing like

793
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 5: I guess it's so it's there's nothing immediate about it, right,

794
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 5: someone thinks of it.

795
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: Well because Cole open right, she's harried, she's getting to

796
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: their sad.

797
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: Do you have your food? Then you get your juice?

798
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: You get it and everything is going wrong for her.

799
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: She's you know, the stroller gets runs over her foot

800
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: and she's just getting destroyed.

801
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: And then she's sitting.

802
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: There and they're going through the rules right before you

803
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: take off and they mention like make sure you put

804
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: your own oxygen on first, and you see this.

805
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: Kind of revelation and as you hear the like.

806
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Of the like sign going on, it's like a light bulb.

807
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: And I find when I used to talk about this

808
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 5: with women because I didn't get sweet abat I talked

809
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 5: about because mainly on dates.

810
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: Because they loved to hear like I would go, yeah,

811
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: I would go.

812
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 5: On dates with single moms, right, and I would talk

813
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 5: about mom's neglecting himself in like Mom's Octen first, and

814
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 5: you would see this like wave of calmness and desire

815
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: wash over their faces.

816
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I'm very relaxed. Yeah, like I understand.

817
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like now I finally I get it, and now

818
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 5: I have like a mature desire for you.

819
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: Women love it. So it's ringing a bell.

820
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 5: It's like a once in a lifetime thing. Mom's oxygen.

821
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 5: We live in a period of time. Yeah, and I

822
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 5: gave it away.

823
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: She's on the plane. Dylan McDermott is the pilot.

824
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: Okay, captain.

825
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: She's sitting back to she's sitting next to Ed Weeks.

826
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's literally hyperventilating. She's been doing so much

827
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: and putting herself least. She's literally out of breath and

828
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 5: nothing's even happened. So and the oxygen's not coming down

829
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 5: because there's no plane problems. Yeah, just love talk about oxygen.

830
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: But she is short of breath, and.

831
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: The kids have too much oxygen. They can't exact the oxygen.

832
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: And the kids have no immune system because all it's

833
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 5: been all oxygen. They can't handle an ash. They can't

834
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 5: handle one little thing wrong without getting pneumonia.

835
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Is that how it works?

836
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 6: Yeah?

837
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: Too much oxygen.

838
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: You're one single pile of ash.

839
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: You're dead meat. You can't handle anything.

840
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: This is an episode of America and America's horror story.

841
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: Like I get the title right, Yeah, very important that

842
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: the title is correct.

843
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, So anyway, I gave it kind of like, you know,

844
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 5: why didn't Springsteen record because the night? Why didn't I

845
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: write Mom? Why didn't even pitch mom? Socket because it's

846
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 5: all there in the pitch? Like I wouldn't even had

847
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: to write it. I could have just sold it and

848
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: have like whatever, Brad Copeland write it.

849
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: Who cares? Get some friend of mine to write it, Yeah,

850
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: he'll do it.

851
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: I had the idea for anyone who doesn't know the

852
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: Springsteen stories, referencing it's pretty uh intricately detailed in the

853
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: documentary series The Defiant Ones, which reminds me of The

854
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: Flagrant Ones hashtag The Flavorite Ones. Patreon podcasts about basketball,

855
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: hosted by myself, he Hayes, davi Aport, and Carl Tart. I

856
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: only bring that John to clarify John's point, and I'm

857
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: obviously would never promote no, it's totally separate show on

858
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: this show.

859
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 5: And also express some sort of ownership mail it to

860
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: yourself whatever you have to do, like that's your show.

861
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, hey, I hate turning on the TV and

862
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: see my tweet.

863
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: For Yeah, well that's why I stopped watching the news.

864
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean, because they're always they're

865
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: always taking my commentary.

866
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 3: Mailing it to yourself.

867
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Mailing it to yourself isn't even safe anymore because these

868
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: postal workers will hold it up to the light.

869
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: Uh and and take your show the steam. They'll steam

870
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: it open.

871
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 5: And they'll postdate it. They'll actually stamp the wrong date. Yeah,

872
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: to show that like they had the idea day before

873
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: and then like they go home and write it in

874
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 5: their diary.

875
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, superstore.

876
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: Justin Spitzer was a mailman, so he knows. The Originally

877
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: was a show that I had devised called Brad, Beth

878
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: and Beyond.

879
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: It was setting bed, Bath and Beyond.

880
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: Brad was sort of a ne'er do well, always like

881
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: doing crazy stuff in the aisles, jumping in the shopping

882
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: cart and crashing into other people. And then Beth, uh

883
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: not to step on mom's oxygen. First she was a

884
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: harried single mother who was a manage this bad Bath

885
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: and Beyond.

886
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and are the those two gonna find a common ground?

887
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: Is he going to loosen her up? And is she

888
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: going to straighten his life out in a way where

889
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Hello, he's becoming a good dad

890
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: and he's teaching mom to get some of her oxygen.

891
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: First, Brad, Beth and Beyond.

892
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Feems like they could get along because he is a

893
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: married do will he could use some of that extra

894
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: naire on her because she is so harried.

895
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 5: But like to show that he's like controlling? Could Brad

896
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: could Brad Bath and Beyond own a container store instead

897
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: of a bed Bath and Beyond?

898
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: Could Brad, Bath and.

899
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 5: Beyond be about a man named Brad who owns a

900
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 5: container store?

901
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: Oh not a Bad Bath and Beyond?

902
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, everything in his life is so in his work

903
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: life is so content.

904
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 5: It's unfortunately the pun works better with beth Man and

905
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: I am married to the title. But if we could

906
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 5: call it Brad Bath and Beyond about that store, I'm

907
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 5: not against it. Maybe he's jealous of Maybe bed Bath

908
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 5: and Beyond comes like I'm jealous, So I wish I

909
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 5: could be like the Bad Bath.

910
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 2: And his home life is like spilling out?

911
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: Can Nicole Buyer still work there? Uh? Yeah?

912
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: She's just like over it and like to be she

913
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: would have to become Nicole Seller. Ah, yes, she's working

914
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: at the store, right, but.

915
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: Also if she's got larger than life that act you're like,

916
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: I cannot be contained unless it's a bad bathroom beyond okay,

917
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 5: it has to.

918
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: Be a bed.

919
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: Well, I need someone to be like, what are you

920
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: two just gonna get this over with?

921
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, get down to business. Yeah, who do you like

922
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: to see in that part? I have a pitch?

923
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I think you know, you think about what

924
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: makes a good comedy, it's the supporting actors. What show

925
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: had the greatest funniest supporting actors of all time?

926
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 3: Mad about you? Cousin Ira?

927
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: So that to me, John pank Oub, it seems like

928
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: a cousin Ira to me. So we're gonna get pank

929
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Ou in there to do a little little hanky panky

930
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: on the U.

931
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: And then they had that.

932
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: Then they had that woman who was so funny too,

933
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: the other committe character.

934
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: The sister. Okay, yes, is cousin IRA's.

935
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: No, No, it's like Helen Hunts right, I'm ba to

936
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 5: mad about you? Those really funny supporting characters, yes.

937
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: Yes, well of course, that introduced us to Ursula, Lisa

938
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: Kudro's twin sister to Phoebe Yes, who got to cross

939
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: over between Mad About You and Friends, which was like

940
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: the thrill of a lifetime where you're like, I know

941
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: her from some and then Friends goes, here's where you

942
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: know her from the show was right before.

943
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 5: I thought that reflected very well, I'm mad about You

944
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: that they could get Ursula. Oh, Friends didn't need it.

945
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 5: Friends didn't need Mad about You. If anything, it made

946
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 5: like the idea that they were connected made Friends a

947
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: little depressing.

948
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: Uh huh. And that was Littlefield's genius.

949
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: That was all his idea to have there, making all

950
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: the shows one show and then supersizing them. Picture remember

951
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: the horrible supersized shows. Yeah, forty minutes, there's a comedy number.

952
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 5: We all needed ten more minutes of Beaut's guess, even

953
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: Fraser and Friends and Grace there were other shows that

954
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 5: were supercizing.

955
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of these characters had understayed their welcome.

956
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 5: It was like, why are like, why is George Seaguin

957
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 5: just shoot me? Just flying through when he could stay

958
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: and sit and have a five minute conversation.

959
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: We could supersize it.

960
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: It's a great feeling on some Netflix shows now to

961
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: be twenty two minutes in and feel like you're done,

962
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: but you have a delicious eighteen minutes yeah made.

963
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, my internal clock is not okay with.

964
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: That cousin Iron to Live and Die in La Maybe Yeah,

965
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: it's neither here nor there. But I think he's in

966
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: that totally fucked up preaking movie.

967
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: It's like the partner like Peterson.

968
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: And it's like William Peters. So William Peterson, that's right.

969
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Michael Peterson of course is my favorite murderer from the staircase.

970
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: Oh, my favorite murderer.

971
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to shout out another podcast, Kevin Neirol

972
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: phones that one or.

973
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 6: No now, but we're cousins.

974
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 2: Okay, great, they came over here for one second, right,

975
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: Mill mid.

976
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: Rolls part of this, right, yeah, you know. I feel

977
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 5: like this company has had four different names and nothing

978
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 5: were that great. Like over the years we have we

979
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: had ear Wolf, Stitcher, Howell, mid.

980
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: Roll Scripts is involved.

981
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 5: If you had to go with one of those, because

982
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 5: everyone has a different email addressed tore Like, if you

983
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 5: had to go with one of those names, which is

984
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: is it Earwolf?

985
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: The one that people know.

986
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 2: Ear Wolf is the brand I think that is recognizable.

987
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: Howl was a better offshoot, I think than Stitcher, but

988
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: Stitcher was an already existing app and company, and so

989
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: they had to fold that in. Mineral Stitcher and Earwolf

990
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: all being one company feels like some sort of Ponzi

991
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: scheme where things are condition from each right, Yeah, actually mid.

992
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 5: Roll, Yeah, like Colin, Like Colin's getting three paychecks a week, right,

993
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 5: God damn it. Like you don't leave the BBC unless

994
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: you're getting three paychecks a.

995
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Week out of bed.

996
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: What's the next episode that we have to look forward

997
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: to Don Levenstein's show.

998
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Of my podcasting.

999
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe what's happening is there because it was

1000
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: on Stitch your preema. So I've been behind the paywall, right,

1001
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: And when you're behind a paywall, friends get mad at you.

1002
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: They yell at you at parties.

1003
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 5: Even when they sign up and they listen to it

1004
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: and they like it, they're a little mad that they

1005
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: had to go through that process. So finally we're being

1006
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 5: set free. And I guess they're starting with episode one

1007
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 5: on November fifth, which is about when Sit and Spin.

1008
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: This group I was with in the early two thousands

1009
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: where we would read stories on stage where we went

1010
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 5: to the Aspen Comedy Festival in two thousand and two,

1011
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 5: and while I was on stage, someone in the audience

1012
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: threw up and it caused a big stir that weekend,

1013
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 5: And so we got the people in the studio and

1014
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 5: we talked about it, and then we got that guy

1015
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 5: on the phone. He's an what does you guys throw

1016
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: up guy? Yeah, we got the throw guy. He works

1017
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: for He used to be an agent when he threw

1018
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 5: up during my monologue. He was an agent, but now

1019
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: he works for Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas.

1020
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

1021
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: And in the course of talking about like is me

1022
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: and Jill Solloway and the other people were there were

1023
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: like building up this anger towards him as we're talking about,

1024
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 5: like what happened back then in Asspen two thousand and

1025
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 5: two when this asshole agent threw up when I was

1026
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 5: on stage.

1027
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: Was it really loud?

1028
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: Well, it just clear. It just cleared the place. And

1029
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: then there was a forty five minute delay in the

1030
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 5: show and it was a midnight show. The whole thing

1031
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: was a nightmare. But when we finally got on the phone,

1032
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: he was a surprisingly sympathetic character for someone who would

1033
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 5: do something because well, yeah, grow up, yeah malicious throwing

1034
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 5: up exactly. We were just mag you'd ruined our show.

1035
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 5: But it turned out also he hasn't just thrown up.

1036
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 5: He passed out like it was a serious thing, and

1037
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 5: then he woke up to find someone calling his boss

1038
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: to tell on him.

1039
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

1040
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 5: So in the whole story, he emerged as much more

1041
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: sympathetic than we expected, to the point that we're probably

1042
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: going to go to Vegas and visit him at some

1043
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: point and he's going to give us a deal.

1044
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: A deal at Caesar, You it was such a sympathetic

1045
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 2: character that you've decided.

1046
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: That we'd, oh, he's gonna love it.

1047
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: He was.

1048
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 5: He was full of Ryan can confirm this. He was

1049
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: full of the offers that we've got to come to

1050
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: Vegas and he'll give us a deal. He was, and

1051
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 5: he was actually he was actually misguided enough to think

1052
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 5: that he wanted us to recreate the Spoken Word show

1053
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 5: in Vegas. And I think he just thought it would

1054
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 5: be a crowd pleaser, Like maybe he thinks like he'll

1055
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: sollaway travels or something.

1056
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: But okay, which which.

1057
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 5: Room in Vegas are we going to perform these first

1058
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 5: person narrative, little bits amusing for you, will cancel.

1059
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 6: Selene for one night America Story hosted by America Ferrera.

1060
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: Bye.