1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Bogglebaum, and today we 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about corn dogs, and it's 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: a fun one. It is. This one gets wacky and 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: uh you know, I feel like we've We've got a 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: lot of competing origin stories and a lot of these 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: but wof I love how many people are scrambling so 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: fiercely to claim the corn dog. You should there's no 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: judge on my part. Yeah, I mean, but but like, 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: but like, not since the Sunday have we had such 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: fierce competition. Yes, yes, you are correct. We have a 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: lot of contenders in this one. Which is a phrase 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to use a lot. And also every time 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: I use it, I think of the word Ragnarok. So 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: just put that in her mind. When Tessa Thompson says 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: he's a contender, That's what I mean. That's what I'm 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: going for every time. Yes, exactly, love it. Um. I 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm not really into corn dogs. I can't even remember 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: the last time I had one. Uh My mom did 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: by the Frozen Kind one time, and that's like my 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: most recent memory in that one time, like in middle school. Yeah, 22 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: but I do have a friend who was going through 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: a huge corn dog kick. Um. She says it's mostly 24 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: because she wants to have a vessel to transport mustard 25 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: and catch up to her mouth, which I know some 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: of you will judge, but no, I'm I'm into that. Yeah, 27 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: I think the catchup part which we're going to go into, yes, 28 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: but it seems like a very very joyous thing for her. 29 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: So it makes me really happy every time I hear 30 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: like say like, oh, for lunch, I had this turkey 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: corn dog, and like, oh, I'm glad. Yeah, yeah, I 32 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: don't to be To be honest, y'all, I don't really 33 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: understand corn dogs. I'm like, You've got a perfectly good 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: hot dog and a perfectly good like Johnny Cake pancake mix, 35 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: and then you ruin them by putting them together. Why 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: would you do that? They're they're fine, they're doing fine. 37 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: They didn't need your intervention. Um. I'm like, I'm I'm 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to be unpopular this episode. I can already. 39 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: I can, like like a million keyboards. We're being tacked 40 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: out with hate mail, um, and then more suddenly silenced. 41 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we've done this a lot recently where 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the is kind of an Americana food with like tater 43 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: tots also which we didn't we just were not super 44 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: fans of um. And now again with corn dogs, people 45 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: are people who love them, love them. Oh yeah yeah 46 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: uh we We also asked a super producer JJ who 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: is helping us out this week, and he says that 48 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: he is like kind of corn dog agnostic um and 49 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, but but that's only a 50 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: quorum of three. If you like him, I'm happy for you. 51 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: Like like Annie's friend go for it. Um. A bunch 52 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: of Atlanta restaurants have them on the menu, like kind 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: of as like an upscale uh bar food nostalgia throwback 54 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Um. We were just talking before we 55 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: started recording about Pelucaville, which was an Atlanta restaurant kind 56 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: of famous for him for a minute. Uh you know, 57 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: it makes me happy to see him on menus. But 58 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I will never, unto myself, order them. Yeah, I'm not 59 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: sure I will either, although um, researching this episode, I 60 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: will say, I think and I'm gonna make now I'm 61 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna make enemies think. As I've said even in the 62 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: tear Toks episode, I think I have a thing about 63 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: like old oil where I can it's not a thing 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: that I like. But I also when I think of 65 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: corn dogs, I think of a sweetness. But apparently that's 66 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: not the case a lot of times, but in some 67 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: specific cases it is. So I'm wondering if I had 68 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: one that didn't have that sweetness, I would be more 69 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: into it. Maybe you have a lot of tasting things 70 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that were we've built up. We've got the root beer waiting. 71 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I still have the dairy and ice cream years ago. Yes, 72 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's still good, Lord positive it is. Uh heck, um, 73 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: didn't we didn't we have a corn dog at the 74 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: at the rent Fast though, when we went and had 75 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of fried foods at the rent Fast. Okay, 76 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: So for listeners who don't remember that, this is back 77 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: when we had a video series as food Stuff. One 78 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: time we got to go to the rent Fest and 79 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: we recorded a video on mead that was great, um, 80 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: and then we did one on they just brought us 81 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: all these foods on sticks, so it was it was 82 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: glorious and horrifying. It was just like all of the ridiculous, 83 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: over the top fair food that you can get at 84 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: a rent Fest. And this was at Georgia Renaissance Festival specifically, UM, 85 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: and we were just like, what have we gotten ourselves into? UM? 86 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: This was also what like pen thirty am, UM justin 87 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: over at Monk's Mead UM, which just opened a new 88 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: bar location in the Highlands for anyone else in Atlanta. 89 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: UM had had kindly brought us samplers. And by samplers, 90 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean full bottles. Different rush in movies where they 91 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: opened the like like Jurassic Park when all the fog 92 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: comes out and there's just bottles, or like Mary Poppins 93 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: bag like he like he just kept pulling bottles out 94 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's nine thirty in the morning 95 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: and I have not had breakfast. It was delightful. UM. 96 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if the video is still online anywhere, 97 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: but if it is, I don't know, UM Google like 98 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: like food stuff mead, yeah, or honey because it was 99 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: part of our honey right, thank you, thank you. I 100 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: forgot why we were even there. The meat and the 101 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: food on sticks, you know, gets in your head especially. 102 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: I think we were done by like noon, oh easily, easily. Yeah, 103 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: that was a day. It was. It was quite a day. UM. 104 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of days, every year. The first Saturday of the 105 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: NBA's March Madness is National corn Dog Day. Um. I 106 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: think that's a generally The third Saturday of March. Um, 107 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: National corn Dog Day also does celebrate tater tots and beer. 108 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Okay, so there's a kind of connection between 109 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: tater tots and corn dogs. Oh. I would say spiritually certainly, um, 110 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: but but literally also yeah, uh yeah, we've previously done 111 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: an episode on hot dogs. Um, that was the July 112 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: four food Stuff Gets Frank about hot dogs. Yeah, um 113 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: maybe uh uh maybe see that. Maybe see our corn 114 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: bread episode from January of this year if you want 115 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: to options option scalore as there are with corn dogs, 116 00:07:51,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: which I guess question corn dogs, what are they? Well? 117 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: A corn dog is a hot dog that has been 118 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: speared through lengthwise on a stick, then dipped into a 119 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: thick corn meal based batter and deep fried or air fried, 120 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: perhaps until the batter is crisp on the outside and 121 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: fluffy on the inside and the hot dog is hot 122 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: all the way through. It's meant to be picked up 123 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: by the stick and eaten out of hand, um, and 124 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: is sometimes served with sauces or other toppings drizzled over it. 125 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: For for dipping. UM. So yeah, it's like a like 126 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: a handheld hot dog, Johnny cake. Um, it's a it's 127 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: a whole sausage fritteran a stick. It's it's salty and 128 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: sweet and crisp and cakey and like springy, chewy and 129 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: highly nostalgic for a lot of Americans, I think. But 130 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: for something that I might describe as a tiny bit basic, 131 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm making enemies. I'm sorry. There is there is a 132 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: lot going on here. So let's break. Let's take all 133 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: this down. As as I said in our hot dog episode, UM, 134 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: A hot dog is a type of sausage made of 135 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: a fine ground meat, usually beef or beef and pork, 136 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: seasoned with stuff like coriander, mustard, seed, pepper, nutmeg, clove, paprika, garlic, sugar, 137 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and salt. It's usually cured, sometimes smoked UM and then 138 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: pre cooked during manufacturing. UM hot dogs used for corn 139 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: dogs are usually skinless. That is, they're they're manufactured without 140 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: a without a containing membrane, and so they're they're savory 141 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: and salty and spiced in a little bit sweet, really tender. 142 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: The type of corn meal batter used for corn dogs 143 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: is um I've always had a very specific way, which Annie, 144 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,239 Speaker 1: like you said, is kind of sweet. Um. But uh, 145 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: but I've seen a bunch of different recipes for it. 146 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: So it's usually about equal parts of yellow corn meal 147 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,479 Speaker 1: and all purpose wheat flour um seasoned with them sugars, 148 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: maybe some stuff like powdered onion or chili pepper, leavened 149 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: with baking powder and uh made into like a like 150 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: a sticky, heavy self rising batter with buttermilk. So it's 151 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: a it's basically just like a corn pancake batter. Uh. 152 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: The sticks whole different episode. I had to stop myself 153 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: from going down a food grade wooden stick rabbit hole, 154 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: um as as you do, I suppose, yeah, but uh 155 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: so so soft woods like like birch and basswood are 156 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: pressed out into sheets and then die cut into the 157 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: food grade sticks that are used for stuff like corn 158 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: dogs and ice pops um because they're economical and disposable 159 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: and more eco friendly and temperature safe than than plastic. 160 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: There is a site on on this our internet called 161 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: corn dog blog dot com um that contains a diagram 162 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: of corn dog anatomy, and it refers to the stick 163 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: as the human corn dog interface. I love that. That 164 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: sounds like aliens coming to Earth and trying to figure 165 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: out how to please subdue the human race. We need 166 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: a human corn dog interferes. Yeah yeah, so that's that's 167 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the basic rate anatomy of a corn dog. Um. But 168 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: there are all kinds of variations you can use, like 169 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: a miniature cocktail sausage in order to make a corn pup. UM. 170 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: You can add stuff to the batter, like like cooked 171 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: corn or diced hot peppers, or like French fry chunks 172 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: or I don't know, like like anything that you want. 173 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: You can put bacon in there or wrap it around. 174 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: There's infinite variations that people have and will continue to do. UM. 175 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: Hot dog multiverse right Oh yeah is is um. And 176 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: these were originally like an outdoor festival food, but you 177 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: can make them from various levels of scratch at home. 178 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Um if you if you really wanted to make your 179 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: own hot dog style sausages, you certainly could um. And 180 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: deep frying is a thing that I understand some humans 181 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: are not terrified of. UM, not us not us yeah um. 182 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: But you can also pretty easily, like you know, like 183 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: make the batter and coat some store bought hot dogs 184 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: and pan fry them the way that you would fry chicken. Um. 185 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Alton Brown has a pretty good recipe for that. Um. 186 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: They're also, as Annie mentioned, sold like pre cooked and 187 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: frozen for reheating at home. Yeah yeah, um. One more, 188 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: one more quote from corn dog blog dot com. Yes, okay, 189 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: corn dogs are like geodes, but younger geologically speak in there, 190 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: like the whole Earth, but younger. If only the Earth's 191 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: core were sausage and not iron nickel, were fortunate because 192 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: we can take a journey to the center of the 193 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: corn dog and not die. That's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's 194 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: so beautiful. Oh my goodness, I love that so much. 195 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: It's a really high quality website. You guys, this makes 196 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: you want to I want to sit down and write 197 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: so beautiful deep literature food. You should. I think I might. Okay, 198 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: but we'll let us know. Oh oh, I'm ready in 199 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: the meantime. Why not? The nutrition? Uh, corn dog is 200 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: a calorically dense food, especially if you buy them or 201 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: make them fresh dipped and deep fried. The batter soaks 202 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: up a bunch of oil. Hot dogs are a fatty 203 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: type of sausage to begin with. Um, there's a lot 204 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: of carbs involved. They do contain a good bit of 205 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: protein and as smattering of minerals. Um. So they'll help 206 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: fill you up and sort of keep you going. But 207 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: like seriously pleased a vegetable sometimes just just any time. 208 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: What the corn and corn dog does not count as 209 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: that does not count as a vegetable anymore. No, no, um. 210 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: But we do have some numbers for you. We do 211 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: not too many, but a few a couple. Um. Yeah, alright, 212 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: So in corn dogs polled as americans favorite regional type 213 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: of hot dog um, with forty of respondents picking this 214 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: style of hot dog over New York style at in 215 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Chicago style. And this is Annie is making a very 216 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: confused face, and I agree with it. I don't. I've 217 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: never considered a corn dog to be a style yole 218 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: of hot dog. I'm like, it's a different food at 219 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: that juncture, Yeah, I got a lot of confusion. But 220 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: apparently as the eighteen to thirty four year old set 221 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Um was like, like, no, corn dogs are my favorite 222 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: style hot dog. That's what it is. So dame, if 223 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: any of your listeners are among that set, I I 224 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: would like to hear from you, because I feel like 225 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: the corn dog is really relegated, as we're about to 226 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: talk about festivals unless you get them frozen or maybe 227 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,239 Speaker 1: at a bar that has a corn dog on the menu. 228 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just curious about Yeah, to me, there are 229 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot less like ubiquitous than other styles of hot dog. 230 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Maybe maybe it's a regional thing. 231 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: That's true. And speaking of as of the Pronto Pup 232 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota Fair franchise, which is the largest Pronto franchise in 233 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: the country and the world, Like, there were some caveats 234 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: where people are like and probably in the world. I'm 235 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say I if it's the biggest 236 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: in the US, I strongly suspect me too. Like where 237 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: else maybe Canada, but there were some numbers from Canada 238 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: they weren't called maybe South Korea. Yes, oh, I can't 239 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: wait to talk about that, Okay, But yes, this franchise 240 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: in the Minnesota State Fair was heading towards selling the 241 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: twenty five million pup Wow. Yes, and this is a 242 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: fair that takes place over a twelve day period and 243 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: during those days the company goes through twenty four tons 244 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: of sausage and one hundred and fifteen tons of batter 245 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: and another State Fair and annual six hundred and thirty 246 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: thousand corny dogs are old over twenty four days at 247 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Texas State Fair, which we're going to be talking about 248 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: more in a minute. Huh um. There are even corn 249 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: dog eating contests at some state fairs. UM at the 250 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: California State Fair brand Milo frank holds or or perhaps 251 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: held I couldn't find more recent numbers for it um 252 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: an annual corn dog contest, and I think that the 253 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 1: standing record maybe from when with Molly Skyler eight thirty 254 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: three corn dogs in eight minutes. Three. Okay, okay, Annie 255 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: just like clutched her pearls, y'all, Like wow, I'm like 256 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm torn between impressed and like horrified. Yeah, there's no 257 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: judgment involved personally, I ate a lot of cheese for 258 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: lunch and like that's I pushed the limit, so all right, 259 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I will I will say impressive. It was 260 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: because she almost doubled the previous record of eighteen corn 261 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: dogs in eight minutes. Um. They do hold this competition 262 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: over two days. There's a qualifying rounds the first day, 263 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: and then the finals, which so delightfully serious. At the 264 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: Iowa State Fair in two thousand eight, a world record 265 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: was set for the most people simultaneously eating corn dogs. 266 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: That was eight thousand, four hundred people. And this sounds 267 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: like it was wild. They called it the corn Dog Chomp. 268 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: They offered free admission and a free corn dog to 269 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: anybody who wanted to come out and participate and who 270 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: could show up between five am and eight thirty am. 271 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: They were prepared, They were prepared to make eight thousand 272 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: corn dogs. They had to like scramble, and they scrambled 273 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: and made another four hundred. But y'all, forty two thousand 274 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: people showed up. Oh my gosh, I I can't imagine. Like, 275 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, you set your alarm four in the morning, 276 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: you pop your knuckles, stretch, Yeah, have your coffee, you know, 277 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: feed your pets, you know, uh, get your son screen on, 278 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: head out of the house. Yes, go eat some corn dogs. 279 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: Five Yeah yeah, well yeah it was so so it 280 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: was it was like I think that I don't remember 281 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: what a clock at which they like they were like 282 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: okay and chump um. But but yeah, so like they 283 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: they opened the gates at five, and when they did, 284 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: there was already a line of cars like down the 285 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: interstate of people like waiting to get in people. I 286 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: couldn't Okay, I could not independently corroborate that number, but um, 287 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: but I believe it. People love corn dogs and they 288 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: love any kind of competition. Yeah, you know, yeah, and 289 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: I think it was for Guinness and people. People really 290 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: get into those, so sure. Yeah. Um. As of as 291 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, the Iowa State Fair offered eleven different 292 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: styles of corn dog and uh and it was at 293 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: that point the fairs best selling food. Um. Also that year, 294 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: a local brewer called Court Avenue Brewing Company offered a 295 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: corn dog ale that I could find no further information. 296 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: It could be a reason reason for that judgment, no judgment. 297 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: People were like it tasted kind of smoky. I'm like, 298 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I couldn't anyway anyway. Um. Yes, Korean 299 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: corn dogs also called hot dogs. Very confusing, but got 300 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: it so many coadings. There was a whole new world 301 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: for me. Oh yeah yeah. Um. And they and they 302 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: put other fillings in them too, like apparently mazzarella and 303 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: cheddar are the most popular, like bonus fillings. UM. A 304 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: crust of sugar on the outside is a popular like 305 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: like topping. UM. Garnishes can include anything from ram and 306 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: crumbles to like a squid ink sauce two crushed peanuts. 307 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: You can also get them with stuff like right like 308 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: a like like bacon or shrimp wrapped around either the 309 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: sausage or on the outside of the dough. Yeah. I 310 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: really recommend going and looking at menus if you haven't before. Yeah, 311 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: because it's so many options. It's glorious, it really is, honestly, 312 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: as is the history of the corn dog. Oh it is. 313 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: And we are going to get into that as soon 314 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: as we get back from a quick break. For a 315 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 316 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Okay. So the question of who invented the 317 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: corn dog is often answered with the mysteries history vibe. 318 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: As we said at the top, so many contenders. Again, 319 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: Tessa Thompson is the inspiration for this this episode, so 320 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: please keep that in mind. Um. There are a few 321 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: popular contenders in the mix, though, and one is the 322 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: story of the Pronto pup. And yes, I know people 323 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: like to argue that Pronto pups don't count as a 324 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: corn dog, but the consensus seems to be that it 325 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: is indeed a type of corn dog. It's kind of 326 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: a square rhombas situation. From what I understand, like, not 327 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: every corn dog is a Pronto pup, but a Pronto 328 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: pup is a corn dog. Just reporting the facts, Okay, yes, alright, 329 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: So the story goes that over Labor Day weekend in 330 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: ninety nine and Rockaway, Oregon concession vendor George Boyington was 331 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: trying to find a solution after rain had literally rained 332 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: on his parade had ruined his hot dog bums. Boyington 333 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: was looking for a bit of a new start. He's 334 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: spent previous years the Bootlegger smuggling liquor into Michigan, so 335 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: he was really really trying to come up with a 336 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: way to cook up hot dog buns on demand that 337 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: was portable for vendors and customers. This led to him 338 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: creating a deep fried solution of dipping hot dogs and batter, 339 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: frying them, and serving them on a stick. Because this 340 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: whole process took place over a short amount of time, 341 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: he called the whole thing Pronto Pup, a name he 342 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: and his wife Versa trademarked in nineteen forty two. The 343 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: couple started selling Pronto franchises pretty quickly after that, and 344 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: franchise Ease would receive some proprietary flour mixed for the batter. 345 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Strict rule to only serve them plain or with mustard, 346 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: and that was pretty much all they got um At carnivals. 347 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: The Pronto pup was sometimes called a banquet on a stick, 348 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: and one of the first slogans for this product was 349 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: done in a bun with John spelled do you and yes? 350 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: And the whole venture was very successful, very quickly. The 351 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Boyington's son, Baxter, grew up helping the family business and 352 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: remembers the family going from barely scraping by to being 353 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: able to afford a nice house in Portland. In Boston's 354 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Christian Science Monitor published this quote, if you have never 355 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: heard of Pronto pups, prepare yourself. They show signs of 356 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: becoming as ubiquitous as tom thumb golf, at least in 357 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the West. A man named G. M. Boyington of Salem, 358 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Oregon invented and patented a special type of domex that 359 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: looks like waffle batter. He impales a hot dog on 360 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: a stick, dips the dog in the batter, thrust it 361 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: for a couple of moments into boiling deep fat, and presto, 362 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: you have a Pronto pup and it remains hot for 363 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: forty five minutes or more. Hints will probably be seen 364 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: on many picnics. Um. Yeah, the scare quotes around hot dog. 365 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: That's one of my very favorites. Yes, the Pronto Pup 366 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: did make it out a east, of course. Um Jack 367 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Carness of the Merchant Marines opened the first franchise east 368 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: of the Rockies. According to his son, he used a 369 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: ferris wheel like device so each dog could be cooked 370 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: for two minutes and fifteen seconds exactly. In. A Minnesota 371 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: businessman named William Breed flew to Chicago to meet up 372 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: with Carness and they had this meeting, but Breed ended 373 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: up missing it. Um when he'd seen the line outside 374 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: of Carness's Pronto Pup restaurant, he got in eager to 375 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: see what the fuss is about and wondering if he 376 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: could capitalize on it. So he's like, forget this meeting, 377 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: what's this line about? And when the moment finally came, 378 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: Breed loved the Pronto Pup and wasted no time and 379 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: asking Carnas if he'd go in with him if they 380 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: were able to secure spots at the Minnesota State Fair. 381 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: But Carnas wasn't into the idea. He'd gotten several offers 382 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: that were similar to that that didn't seem well thought out. 383 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, you're just into this right now, 384 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: but do you have a business plan. But Breed was undeterred. 385 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: He went back to Minnesota and secured six concession spots 386 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: for the Toronto Pup at the fair. With this done, 387 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: he flew back to Chicago, got back in line at 388 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Carnass's restaurant, and tried again offered it to him again. 389 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Carnass's wife, in particular, was hesitant. She allegedly asked where 390 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: even is Minnesota and did not relent until Breed offered 391 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: to match Carnass's restaurant earnings for one year. Yes, the 392 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: Pronto pup debut at the Minnesota Fair, and this was 393 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: a big year for the fair because it had been 394 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: canceled in nineteen forty five because of World War Two 395 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: and in nineteen forty six because of polio. The Carnas 396 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: has sold one hundred and six thousand Pronto pups that year, 397 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: and they've been a staple at the fair ever since. 398 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: The business has stayed in the Carnas family. Now, despite 399 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: the fact that Pronto Pups are officially advertised by the 400 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: company at Minnesota State Fair as America's original corn dogs. 401 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: The president of Pronto Pups hates to even say the 402 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: word core dog, and the owner of the Pronto Pup 403 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: franchise at the fair calls it the c D word wow, 404 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: which I read was a point of pride, like they're 405 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: just we're our own things like no, like we are. 406 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: We are a brand unto ourselves. Do not confuse us 407 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: with those other things that call themselves corn dogs or 408 00:27:52,800 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: CD words. I suppose we're not like those other corn dos. Yeah. Also, 409 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: of note, the no ketchup rule wasn't relaxed for several decades. 410 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: Now you can get catchup, but not the case for 411 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: many years. Um. But okay, let's look at another Okay. Yes, 412 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Around the same time that Pronto Pup was taking off, 413 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: the flesher brothers out of Texas were also entering the 414 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: corn dog game. The brothers, who were actors, were working 415 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: on coming up with a batter that wasn't too thick 416 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: or slippery to coat sausage our hot dogs in, and 417 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: after several experiments, they finally arrived at the recipe or 418 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: sip that hasn't really changed since they arrived at it 419 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: and is now kept in a locked safe. Um. They 420 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: introduced their product at the Texas State Fairgrounds that same year, 421 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: calling it a corny dog, which I know, Like, to me, 422 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: I've never heard that term, but two people from Texas, 423 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: that's like, that's an every day it's called a corny dog. Yeah, yeah, 424 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: to me it sounds funny. But yes, but we're not 425 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: making fun just new to our Yes. Yes, Um. While 426 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: There's is arguably the most well known in the state, 427 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: I would say yes, it is the most well known state. 428 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: A few years earlier, in nineteen forty, a corn dog 429 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: with mysterious origins was hugely popular. Here's the quote from 430 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: the Monroe News Star that year. It is destined to 431 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: be one of the fastest selling sandwiches ever introduced, said 432 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Mr Sam C. Brown. Proof of its fine ingredients and 433 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: flavorful combination is found in the fact that in New 434 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Orleans more than seventy corn dog sandwiches were sold in 435 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: a period of three weeks. Uh huh. And in nineteen 436 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: thirty nine, Alice Hughes wrote in a piece called a 437 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: Woman's New York and she was describing a visit to 438 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: a friend in da US and she wrote one of 439 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: their hometown delicacies the corn dog, which is a Frankfurter 440 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: baked in corn bread. So now I shall have another 441 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: excuse to pay them a visit in Texas. So corn 442 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: dogs have been around in Texas before the Fletcher brothers 443 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: came along, but they definitely are the big name. Yeah. Yeah, 444 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: helped popularize for sure. Yes, and corny dogs have stayed 445 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: in the Fletcher family, but not without difficulties. When the 446 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: original Fletcher brothers died in the nineteen eighties, the business 447 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: was taken over by their two sons, who ran the 448 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: business the same way that their fathers had. In two 449 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: thousand eight, then twenty one year old Amber Fletcher, who 450 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: at that time was sometimes called the Corny Dog Heiress, 451 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: was kidnapped. Yeah. She called her mother and informed her 452 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: that her captors were demanding one thousand dollars in ransom 453 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: or that they'd kill her. All sorts of law enforcement 454 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: got involved, including the Texas Rangers in the FBI. Like 455 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: just a bunch um, they were eventually able to recover 456 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Amber Fletcher unharmed. Essentially, they like arranged a drop and 457 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: then we're watching the drop and call the guy and yeah, 458 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: I know. Then in twenty nineteen, Jason Fletcher Christiansen uh 459 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: started a legal battle when she declared she was planning 460 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: to open a pop up called Fletch, and this led 461 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: to Fletcher's original State Fair Corny Dogs to file a 462 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: lawsuit to the United States District Court over trademark protection, 463 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: kicking off a legal battle and a family feud because yes, 464 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Fletcher Christiansen is a member of this family. Um. Christiansen 465 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: opened her restaurant anyway, covering any instance of Fletch on 466 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: the menu with tape and calling it the Restaurant with 467 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: No Name. Wow. Wow. Yeah. The judge ultimately ruled and 468 00:31:54,560 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Fletcher's original State Fair Corny Dogs favor. I'm awful it 469 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: is um Okay, But all right, there's yet another story. 470 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: Let us explore the tale of the Cozy Dog. Uh. So. 471 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: In one Ed Waldmeyer was talking to a friend of 472 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: his in college, Don Strand, and he was talking about 473 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: this unusual sandwich that he had encountered out in Oklahoma, UM, 474 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: which was composed of a hot dog baked in corn 475 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: bread and so uh. The story goes that wald Meyer 476 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: had liked this product but thought it took too long 477 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: to cook and then they both graduated. They both moved on. 478 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: Five years later, to his complete surprise, wald Meyer was 479 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: contacted by Strand, and Strand was like, Hey, remember that 480 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: unusual sandwich. Well, I developed this cornbread mix so that 481 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: you can just dip a hot dog in it and 482 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: then French fry it. Do you want me to send 483 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: you some of this mix? And wald Meyer was like yes. 484 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Waldmeyer was in the Air Force at the time, and 485 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: so using the USO kitchen, he developed what he called 486 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: a Krusty kerr which was a corn dog. UM. After 487 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: being honorably discharged that year UM and accepting the fact 488 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: that his wife hated the name Krusty Kerr UM, Waldemeyer 489 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: and his family launched the brand Cozy Dogs in Illinois 490 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: and it is still a family business. UM. They've had 491 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: several locations over the years. There's still a drive in 492 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: location in Springfield, Illinois. Oh, I love that unusual sandwiches 493 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: scountered uh, and I did see that when I was 494 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: researching there was you probably ran across this team, but 495 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: there was an article about lamenting Chicago and specifically where 496 00:33:52,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: have all the corn dogs called? Yeah, okay, let's step 497 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: back to another contender. The crusty corn dog spelled with 498 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: the K yes. I was like, is this Simpsons related 499 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: unless time travel is really who? In an advertisement and 500 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: a wholesale catalog for the crusty corn sausage dog pan 501 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: red a big money maker for use on gas gasoline 502 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: oral are coal stoves, crusty corn dogs are novel and delicious. 503 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: The hot dog is baked inside the corn batter, which 504 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: as it bakes, molds itself to resemble an ear of 505 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: corn um. So a bit different than what we think 506 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: of today, but pretty close. A few years previously, yeah, 507 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: in Francis Mattson was working on a way to wrap 508 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: meat and bread, and he filed a patent for a 509 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: quote method of producing a food product that read, in part, 510 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: having the enclosing casing of baked batter of such a 511 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: character that the same will not be injuriously affected by 512 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: the grease from the cooked sausash. I love patent language. 513 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: I it's fantastic, But again, you know, pretty close, but 514 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: still a baked product without a stick, so not quite 515 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, which brings us to another contender, Stanley as 516 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: Jenkins out of Buffalo, New York. He successfully acquired a 517 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: patent for an American staple fried food on a stick. 518 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: In the patent he Wroote, I have discovered that articles 519 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: of food such for instance as wieners, boiled ham, hard bullet, eggs, cheese, 520 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: sliced peaches, pineapples, banana, and like fruit and cherries, dates, fig, strawberries, 521 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: et cetera, wind and paled on sticks and dipped in 522 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: a batter which includes in its ingredients of self rising 523 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: flour and then deep fried in a vegetable oil at 524 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: a temperature of around degrees fahrenheit. The result of food 525 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: product on a stick for a handle is a clean, 526 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: wholesome and tasty refreshment. There are sweet food items on 527 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: there that I'm like, right, I'm like, I have never 528 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: had a deep fried fig on a stick, and now 529 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm mad about it. Hard for old eggs, pineapple. I 530 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: just American ingenuity. But yeah, so stories do abound about 531 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: who came up with the corn dog, which is it's 532 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: lovely that so many people are like, yeah, no, I 533 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: and I and I appreciate I appreciate anything that was 534 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: just clearly like a like a Zeitgeist kind of situation 535 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: where like America just as a whole came together sometime 536 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: and what is that like the late twenties to the 537 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: early forties, and was like, let us coat this hot 538 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: dog in vaguely corn meally batter, and let's deep fry it. 539 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: What could go wrong? It will be perfect? You know 540 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: what we should come back and do. Because we've touched 541 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: on this in several episodes, but we've never really dealt 542 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: into it. But like state Fair the foods that arose 543 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: from that kind of thing, because it sounds like this 544 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: was a very state Fair food, and we talked about 545 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: candy corn, which is also kind of that way. Yes, alright, 546 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: future episode. The Korean hot dog slush corn dog because 547 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: it is kind of confusing the terminology that's used, but 548 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: I think in our American parlance we would call it 549 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: a corn dog. First started appearing as a popular street 550 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: food in the nineteen eighties. Yeah, um and the version 551 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: that's battered that that includes chunks of French fries and 552 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: the batter dates from the nineties, so this is not 553 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: a new thing. During particularly the economic downturn of the 554 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: mid to late teens, a lot of startups of these 555 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: Korean hot dogs corn dogs, um and and a bunch 556 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: of sales were just skyrocketing. Yes, and as Korean culture 557 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: and cuisine has become more popular United States, some Korean 558 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: restaurants and chains have introduced this product to the US 559 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: at large. There's been a lot of recent write ups 560 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: and reviews of restaurants offering them. I saw a bunch 561 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: when I did a quick search. Yeah, really recent. Oh 562 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: have you tried this place in l A or New 563 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: York or d c um people people into them. Yeah, yeah, 564 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: it's all I mean, it's one of those like very 565 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: instagrammable kind of kind of foods. So definitely um uh 566 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: in uh. In twenty nineteen, this piece published on eater 567 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: and and forgive me I didn't I didn't take note 568 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: of the author's name, but it was arguing that the 569 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: consumption of corn dogs at state fairs has become political, 570 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: specifically for for candidates who are running or office for 571 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: for specifically for president. Um because the eating of corn 572 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: dogs is seen as like as like humble and joyful 573 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: and relatable. Um so uh So that year nineteen, at 574 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: the Iowa State Fair, like most of the Democratic nominee 575 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: hopefuls either eight one or we're photographed holding one. Apparently 576 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: Hillary did not eat hers, but was seen carrying the 577 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: uneaten corn dog back into her van. Um. But yeah, 578 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: back back in back in two thousand three, they point out, Um, 579 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: when John Kerry was was running Um, he he was 580 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: at the Iowa State Fair and he was photographed ordering 581 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: a strawberry smoothie. And upon upon getting wind of this, 582 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: one of his campaign operatives by the name of Robert 583 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Gibbs reportedly called a staff member on site and said, 584 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: somebody get a fucking corn dog in his hand. Now 585 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: this was after Carry had already like ordered Swiss cheese 586 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: on a philly instead of cheese. Was so like, there 587 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: was already, there's already something like, oh what a food 588 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: snob like, And so we ordered the smoothie and yeah, 589 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Gibbs was like, no, no, sir. Carry did shape up 590 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: and and have a corn dog at the Minnesota State 591 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: Fair the following year. So probably didn't want to cause 592 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: another Robert Gibbs break. Now she's s I would never 593 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: make it as a politician. Oh no, it's way too stressful, 594 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: very stressful. I can't just drink my smoothie okay. Um oh, 595 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: speaking of stress. Recently, there have been arguments about whether 596 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: a corn dog is a popsicle or a sandwich because, 597 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: of course, of course there half I think it's a 598 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: lollipop sandwich. Oh, I mean that makes sense. I mean 599 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: a popsicle is cold. Mm hmm gotta okay, this is 600 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: this is I believe. Actually I was. I was reading 601 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: about this. There was an article in Mel magazine that 602 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: came out and our buddy Julius Skinner was cited as 603 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: being I know right, as being like, well, it's not cold, 604 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: so it's clearly not a popsicle. She was talking about 605 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: corn dogs. Yeah, during this whole corn dog sandwich versus 606 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: popsicle debate. Oh well, I have to reach out to 607 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: her and get her expert opinion. Yeah. Mel Magazine was like, 608 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: noted food historian Julius Skinner said this thing on Twitter, 609 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, she did. Cheez, She's awesome. 610 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: Um okay. Also recently, Disneyland caused a food stir when 611 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: it introduced the Pickle dollar um, a hot dog on 612 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: a stick in cased by a hauled up pickle, coated 613 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: in a corn meal batter and crusted with panco, deep fried, 614 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: and served with the peanut butter dip. People are deeply 615 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: divided over it. They are oh my goodness. They are. 616 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: Corn dogs in general are very popular item at Disneyland, 617 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: and I read reviews of people who tried it, and 618 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: it seemed to be the ones I read it seemed 619 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: to be generally positive. They thought the panco was a 620 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: little bit over overboard, people were mixing peanut butter. Some 621 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: people loved it, some people really didn't like it, but 622 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: some people really digged it. Um not very farm Also 623 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: in California, near near Disneyland offered something similar in called 624 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: the Dilly Dilly Dog. I mean I can see it 625 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: being good. I mean, you know, like like a chopped 626 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: pickle relish is a good hot dog topping. Um, you know, 627 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: I feel like at the point that you're adding extra salt, 628 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: like you're not really hurting anything. Honestly, the pickles sounds nice. Yeah, 629 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: it's like the other stuff. I'm a little but yeah, 630 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: the part sounds good to me. Yeah, I'm like, is 631 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: the pankoa gonna like cut up the inside of my mouth? 632 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: Is the because peanut butter and pickles is pretty good 633 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: in a weird way, but with the hot dog? H yeah, 634 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: I say maybe one day we'll get our food stuff reviews. 635 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, yes, yes, um and uh this is this 636 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: is not technically a news item. But but just this 637 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: year The Onion, which is still satire um, published a 638 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: piece celebrating new research that that reveals that modern corn 639 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 1: dogs are the descendants of ancient aquatic sausages taxonomical name 640 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: but tell us rat worstis UM. There's a quote from 641 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: one of the lead researchers on this paper that this 642 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: article is talking about. UM. She's quoted as saying living 643 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: in such a competitive environment likely drove the ancient sausage 644 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: to adapt to land where resources like ketchups and mustards 645 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: were far more abundant. Though the modern corn dog has 646 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: since shed its casing and developed a thick, deep fried 647 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: coat of batter, it still contains approximately six ground pork. 648 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: I love stuff like this. I love the kind of 649 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: scientific speculation and language around something that is quite silly. Yeah, honestly, 650 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: it lends itself very well to parody. UM. Oh wow, 651 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: and we have gone on quite a journey in this 652 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: corn dog episode. I really want to hear from international 653 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: listeners if this is a thing anywhere else. I mean 654 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: obviously Korea, but like you gotta let us know, Yeah, 655 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: like have you have? Is this the first time you've 656 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: heard of this, are you like, does that sound disgusting? 657 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: Like I mean like like let me, yeah, tell tell us, 658 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: tell us please. And speaking of we do have some 659 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: listener mail for you. We do, but first we got 660 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: one more quick break for a word from our sponsor 661 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and 662 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: we're back with Carrol deep Frog. Okay, okay. I was like, 663 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 1: is this an exploding zombie? Like? What's happening? Also because 664 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: I have been playing a lot of the Last of 665 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: Us as Laura knows, because it a mini freak out earlier, 666 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: because she made a sound that reminded me of sorry, 667 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: I'll try not to never again again, Lauren, my heart 668 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: my art would just something I usually shot when I 669 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: played those games. They're very sad um, but this is 670 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: something very happy. Hannah wrote back at the beginning of 671 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: the pandemic, my friend Aaron and I started listening through 672 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: all of the Red Wall audio books by Brian Jacques 673 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: are Jake. We tried to look it up and we 674 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: got multiple different pronunciations. So Hannah, you probably know you 675 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: can you can write in and let us know. Um, 676 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: but continued, they are charming, uplifting, in a time of crisis, 677 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: and the audio books especially are utterly delightful. They are 678 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: narrated by the author in a strong Scouse accent, with 679 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: the character's voiced by a small recurring cast of voice actors, 680 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: including his son. The songs, of which there many, are 681 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: actually set to music and sung by the cast with 682 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 1: instrumental accompaniment, unlike the sad, spoken renditions you often get 683 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: so much. For why the audio books are delightful, you 684 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: are a food show. And the important thing that anyone 685 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: who has ever read a Red Wall book knows is 686 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: they are the ultimate food porn. I believe Brian Jacques 687 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: said that when he was going through World War two 688 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: rashing as a child, reading his grandmother's Victorian Eric cookbooks 689 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: kept him going. I can't find the actual quote right now, 690 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: so I guess don't take my word for that, And 691 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: that love of food carries through into the books, which 692 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: always include at least one massive, yet homey feast served 693 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: up at red Wall Abbey. Jacques started working on the 694 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: books while working at a school for blind children, and 695 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: descriptions in the book are always vivid and grounded deeply 696 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: in all the senses, to help bring those children into 697 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: the story the food of Redwall, all producing the abbey 698 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: grounds or forage from moss flower wood would be a 699 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: delightful topic for a fictional foods episode. By the time 700 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: Aaron and I reached the end of the series, it was, 701 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: and we were able to get together and cook a 702 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: giant Red Wall feast of our to celebrate Midsummer. We 703 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: served several English cheeses, oatcakes with honey cheese and celery scones, 704 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: carrot and mushroom turnovers, summer salad, shrimp and hotroot soup, 705 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: beloved of otters at Red Ball, the Mole Specialty, Deeper 706 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: and Ever turn Up, and tater and beat root pie. 707 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: The divins is Red Wall youngsters favorite candy chestnuts, strawberry 708 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: cake with clotted cream, and wash it all down with 709 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: mint tea and strawberry fizz. It was one of the 710 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: happiest meals I've ever enjoyed. Needless to say, if you 711 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: need a consultant on that fictional foods episode, I'm slightly obsessed. 712 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: If you ever need to be reminded that good can 713 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: triumph over evil, you can't go wrong with a Red 714 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: Wall book. Oh that's so beautiful and lovely. Oh inhandent 715 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: pictures and it all looks amazing. I loved these books 716 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: as a kid. Oh yeah, I've never read any of them. 717 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I loved um for some reason. The one 718 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: that stands out is there's one of like a mouse 719 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: on top of a motorcycle and a leather sacket, And 720 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: as a kid, I was like, I needed to read 721 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: this book. But yeah, that just sounds so lovely. It 722 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 1: sounds so kind of like what we were talking about 723 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: in several past Fictional Foods episodes. We've talked about that 724 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 1: of kind of this like homeliness, like Narnia is coming 725 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: to a mind of what you can find and having 726 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: that really it being such a comforting meal. And I 727 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: can see how during the pandemic like listening to that 728 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: and then making that so comforting and just lovely it is. 729 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh and that sounds that sounds really nice. Um. I 730 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: want one of each of all of those things immediately. 731 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: Um goodness, Ashley wrote, Um, I loved your recent Tater 732 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: Tot episode. It was a lot of fun to listen to. 733 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: Every morning, I do a drive through coffee around with 734 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 1: my dogs and they get pappuccinos sometimes called pup cups 735 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: and more often than not because of how much the 736 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,720 Speaker 1: baristas love my dogs. They garnish the pappuccinos with tater tots, bacon, 737 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: and a dog treat. Today, August is my dog Hanks 738 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: got you anniversary and was incredibly happy to get a 739 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: pappuccino with the works. I mean, I wippy to heck 740 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: right and on on top of a cup of whipped cream. 741 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: I would eat that, Honestly, I would do. And I 742 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: don't want to feel about that. I feel like I 743 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: need to consider something. It's adventurous, you're having fun, you're 744 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: living living life to the fullest. You're right, I do 745 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: have ripped cream now. As I said earlier, my birthdays out, 746 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: perhaps it's time for thing to be adventurous, to follow 747 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: in Hanks with steps. Oh goodness. Well, thanks to both 748 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 1: of those listeners for writing to us. If you would 749 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: like to write to us, you can or email us 750 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: hello at savorpod dot com. We're also on social media. 751 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at 752 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: savor pod, and we do hope to hear from you. 753 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,240 Speaker 1: Savor is production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts 754 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 1: my heart Radio, you can visit the I Heart Radio 755 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: app Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 756 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our super producers Dylan Fagan and 757 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 1: Andrew Howard, with special thanks this week to j. J. Pasway. 758 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 1: Thanks to you for listening, and we hope that lots 759 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 1: more good things are coming your way.