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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Everybody, congrats on making it to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Our season is right around the corner. After this weekend.

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Speaker 1: covering the Redeemed Team documentary. There are four things from

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Speaker 1: That's gonna matter to me. Um and then and yes,

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Speaker 1: they were right, Magic was still pretty good, but Larry

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Speaker 1: I think the two thousand twelve basketball players are just

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Speaker 1: better than basketball players. I think the two thousand two

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Speaker 1: and I will think the two thousand thirty two basketball

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Speaker 1: That's just gonna be a consistent philosophy that I keep

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Speaker 1: the way that we advance. We get better and better

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Speaker 1: in every industry as time goes on. But I very

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Speaker 1: very much enjoyed that documentary. I hope you guys do

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Speaker 1: as well. Check it out on Netflix. Um that's all

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Speaker 1: I have for today. Like I said, get ready on

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Speaker 1: Monday for our season preview, and then Tuesday we're doing

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Speaker 1: our first live show of the year in the evening.

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Speaker 1: As always, I sincerely appreciate your support. Thanks for rocking

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Speaker 1: with me over this summer. I can't even believe how

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Speaker 1: how successful we were over this summer. I expected things

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Speaker 1: to slow down quite a bit, so I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys support, and let's get into that real basketball next week.

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