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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Oh guys, today Today is a

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Speaker 1: very exciting episode because I have not one, but two

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Speaker 1: needs a little more Joseph Morgan and Persia White in

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Speaker 1: it now. Joseph Shata fame with his iconic portrayal of

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Speaker 1: the devilish villain Klaus in The Vampire Diaries, which then

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Speaker 1: led to the creation of his very own spinoff series,

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Speaker 1: The Originals, because the world needed more of this epic character.

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Speaker 1: Persia Shota fame after the world fell in love with

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Speaker 1: her character Lynn in eight seasons of the hit series Girlfriends,

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Speaker 1: which followed the lives of four black women and told

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Speaker 1: such powerful and groundbreaking stories. So today we are celebrating

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Speaker 1: two people who I've had made such an impact in

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Speaker 1: little bit more about these very special humans. And I

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Speaker 1: want to give a quick and very big shout out

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Speaker 1: can get Persia and Joseph to say something that they

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Speaker 1: have never said before. Two for one today. I am

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Speaker 1: so excited to have you both in studio. How are you,

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Speaker 1: my friends?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for having us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Very exciting, we were saying. We met twenty twenty on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: We did when everything was remote. Yes, but now we've

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Speaker 4: made it to the same room. Finally, finally circle has completed.

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Speaker 1: The best things are worth the way they say, right, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you both here. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this palpable energy in this room right now. There's

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Speaker 1: like this I can't describe it, I can't put it

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Speaker 1: oh it's witchcraft. Oh, very on theme for Halloween coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, it's just a little TVD shout out.

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Speaker 5: You guys have good energy, I do feel.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mslfe to have you. We have so much to

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Speaker 1: talk about and celebrate, Persia. You have a lot going

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Speaker 1: on with a twenty fifth anniversary of a project. We're

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Speaker 1: going to dive into. Joseph, you have such an epic

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Speaker 1: body of work. The two of you are a couple

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Speaker 1: goals for so many people. So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun today and dive into all sorts of things. First,

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Speaker 1: before we do that, welcome to New York officially.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: As an East Coast Ambassador, born and raised in New

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Speaker 2: You're enjoying New York, loving it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we absolutely love it. I mean, the novelty hasn't

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Speaker 4: or not at all. You know, it's just so kind

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Speaker 4: of exciting. I feel, you know, like you're talking about

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Speaker 4: feeling that energy in this room. I feel that in

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Speaker 4: I feel like We're constantly soaking up the stimulation from

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I love the people. I really love the

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Speaker 2: people of New York I always have. It's special, it's beautiful,

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Speaker 2: it's really it's my heart. I love it. And I

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Speaker 2: was actually born in Philadelphia. There's a misconception. I don't

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Speaker 2: People put that I was born in Miami. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is where I would have ended up

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Speaker 1: Well, you were meant to be here in this moment

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Speaker 1: to begin, my god, I feel like between the two

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Speaker 1: gonna burst. But let's start with.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it has.

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Speaker 1: Been about over a decade since the original's premiered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, twelve years, and then the Empire Diarist was

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Speaker 1: over a decade and a half, I mean over fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: What you built doing that is just quite impressive, building

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Speaker 4: You know, because I came into Vampire Diaries as a

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Speaker 4: And then when we started the originals. It became all

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Speaker 4: always and forever the Vow family overall. You know, we

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Speaker 3: To get through this. And people needed it at that time.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was a dark time, and so it was.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm most proud of that of the connections forged.

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Speaker 4: And that's why it meant so much, I believe to

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Speaker 1: I want you to think about this from when we

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Speaker 1: talk about girlfriends as well, So think about this question too.

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Speaker 1: But if you can collectively think of all your work

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Speaker 1: has never seen the show, never seen your performance, and

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Speaker 1: you could sit them down and watch one scene of yours,

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Speaker 1: what would you show them?

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Speaker 3: Ah? Oh, man, I don't know's that's a hard one.

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Speaker 2: You know so many episodes.

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Speaker 4: There's so many episodes, you know. The funny thing as

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Speaker 4: well is I watch episode I'll catch a moment of

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Speaker 4: the Vampire Diaries now and not remember that doing the

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Speaker 4: scene at all, like this is new to me. But

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Speaker 4: every scene of the originals I remember being there on

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Speaker 4: I guess I would probably show them, Okay, I would

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Speaker 4: show them the scene from episode one, season eight where

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Speaker 4: Klaus he's betrayed by his sister and his best friend

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Speaker 4: up the coin. So then he has this huge fight

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Speaker 4: Marcel Bensoniine picks up the coin. And I think i'd

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Speaker 4: show that because I believe it shows a lot of

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Speaker 4: different sides of Klaus. It shows his hurt at his betrayal,

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Speaker 4: It shows the grand standing, the theatrics of the character,

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Speaker 4: of the the action, you know, the the fighting and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. That's a solid choice. That's a

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Speaker 5: I think that what.

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Speaker 1: Resonates with so many people with both of your performances

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Speaker 1: is they were shows that had something to say, even

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Speaker 1: And your show Girlfriends was so trailblazing and it meant

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Speaker 1: People still talk about it and I can't scroll Instagram

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Speaker 4: The beginning of seeing that other side of Klaus, the vulnerabilities,

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Speaker 4: So you had this guy who was really this you know,

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Speaker 4: But I think that idea that people had that there

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Speaker 1: Think, yeah, no, I would agree with that for sure.

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Speaker 1: There's so many people who still that they were angering.

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Speaker 1: And we're celebrating ten years married in April, so love

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Speaker 4: She came to Atlanta and she would run all these

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Speaker 2: Was great because he brought all this You brought all

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'll never date an actor again. I

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Speaker 2: You know. I've seen it go down in other shows

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Speaker 4: I probably he do. He's he's still living there somewhere

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Speaker 5: Think it comes out from time to time.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Yes it does, Yes it does.

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Speaker 2: Well? The beauty was, you know, being with the people.

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Speaker 3: Really definitely.

439
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 4: An effort from the beginning to ground everything, to make

440
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Speaker 4: sure that the characters were sincere and were real and

441
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 4: even though it was genre, you know, to make it

442
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: they're going through real issues. And I can remember one

443
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Speaker 4: of the first things they told me when I got

444
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: to set was don't play a vampire. I don't try

445
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Speaker 4: and play it like it's he's a vampire, you know.

446
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: And so I think that's one of the reasons it

447
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 4: had such great success, because you know, I always think

448
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: as a director or a showrunner or a creator, one

449
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: of the greatest skills you can have is a consistency

450
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: of tone. And they really got the tone right, and

451
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 4: they stuck to it throughout, you know what I mean.

452
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 4: They were consistent with it, and that's why people connected,

453
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 4: even though they were these supernatural beings people invested in connected.

454
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Speaker 1: So to put a pin on this part of the conversation,

455
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Speaker 1: Part one is for you. Part two is for you

456
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Speaker 1: for this question. I want your answer to You know,

457
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people want to see Klaus again. Would

458
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: you want to see Klaus again?

459
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 2: Ah?

460
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: Man, you know, I mean if the if it was

461
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: the right story, I could see it happening. I think

462
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Speaker 4: I'm a time in my life where there's been enough

463
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: distance and I dipped in for a second at the

464
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 4: end of Legacies, you know, to do that little bit.

465
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Speaker 4: I think if the story was there, then I'd be

466
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: open to it. Yeah, because he was such a huge

467
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Speaker 4: part of my life.

468
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, I never say never.

469
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Speaker 5: How would you feel about that?

470
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow? I mean I just met with the girls

471
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: for the twenty fifth and it was just so wonderful.

472
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: I think it would be lovely because the character of

473
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: Lynn was more twenty twenty five than when she was

474
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: the show was on. She was more of this era,

475
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: and I think she'd be very much an advocate for

476
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: a lot of the things going on now. Things I

477
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: got in trouble for for being an advocate for gay rights,

478
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: things that I got heat for are absolutely on fire,

479
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: on point now, like things you.

480
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: Got heat for in your personal life.

481
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: My personal life, for letting my character speak up for

482
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: people I in my personal life got ridicule and attacked,

483
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: yes very much for being way too open sexually and

484
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: primarily dealing with LGBQ and open minded US in general.

485
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: A lot of she just saw life is very free thinking,

486
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: and that wasn't really for conservative sitcom. Was it was not.

487
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, you have shows like Ephoria and it's like, oh, okay,

488
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, but back then that was unheard of. And

489
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's pretty exciting to see where she would

490
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: be now, what kind of ally should be, where she'd

491
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: be in life, and who she'd be championing. I think

492
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: it would be exciting to take someone that was more

493
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: of this era than of that era and let them

494
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: live these stories because it would be really fascinating.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was very much ahead of her time, and

496
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's the twenty fifth anniversary, yeah, of

497
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: that show. I mean it was just it meant so

498
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: much to so many people.

499
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: You feel that well, hear and meet them. I mean,

500
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: I hear the words and I meet the people, and

501
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: that's what's been so inspired. That's the only reason that

502
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: would be really fun to do that character again is

503
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: because I've met so many girls actually, particularly this year,

504
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: and men so many people that have said, wow, you

505
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: brought up a conversation that I was afraid to talk

506
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: to my mom about, Like you are the first person

507
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: where we could speak about these things and the Vampire Dires.

508
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: We did it in genre, so a lot of it

509
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: was I feel like symbolic. You know, it parallels towards

510
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: you know, religious differences or different differences between groups. But

511
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: there it was literal and that was you know, hot

512
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: topic a lot, and our Churrenna got a lot of

513
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: She also got a lot of pressure to not do

514
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: some of the storylines that she did, and I just

515
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: feel like, ah, it was so it's so exciting to

516
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: live that long ago. It's finally, it's finally okay. I

517
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: was just telling Joseph the other day. I was like,

518
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: it's like, it's finally okay. The things I believed in

519
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: for twenty five years and get an awful ridicule four

520
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: and attacked for And I was like, I'm being attacked

521
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: for being an ally by the way, and I was like, fine,

522
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: that attacked me, But now it's absolutely not just acceptable.

523
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: It's unacceptable to not be free thinking in a lot

524
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: of areas of the world. And yet we also going

525
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: backwards and forwards at the same time. So I feel

526
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: like it's even more relevant to stand up for these

527
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: I want to say open minded perspectives and have that

528
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: voice in the room in a show and not close

529
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: things off. So it's pretty exciting, which is you know,

530
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: like I said, what we what we really champion in

531
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: real life?

532
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is we need girlfriends right

533
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: now in the day Aage again. And I think you're

534
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: here today to announce that it's coming back in some

535
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: way form because I see you all over talking about it.

536
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: It's twenty five years, I mean, so anything to share.

537
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: Vampire girlfriends, Yeah, girlfriends.

538
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: We decided to merge the two. Well, it's all been

539
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: leading to this to tell.

540
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: You it would be better than half the stuff out there.

541
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 5: So I would watch it. I would definitely watch it.

542
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, could you imagine all the girlfriends are

543
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: vampires and they're like, no, what do they look so

544
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: good after all these times?

545
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Watch you see in Deadline an article come out, new

546
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: show concept coming out?

547
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 5: Oh no, it would be it would be good.

548
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: Well, we have a production company, it'll be on them.

549
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: We'll put it on the maybe list.

550
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: We go yeah for each of your respective shows. Was

551
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: there a storyline you really wanted to hit that you

552
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: didn't get to hit?

553
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely for me.

554
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: You know, the cool thing about the originals, right is

555
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 4: they were a thousand years old, So we flashed back

556
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: to all these different eras, and there was talk for

557
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: a minute of flashing back to the sixties and they

558
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: were going to do it.

559
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: We even had a wig picked out for me, like.

560
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: This Jim Morrison kind of wig and a whole look

561
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: for Klaus, and I was so excited about going and

562
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 4: doing that storyline, but then that just kind of fell

563
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: to the wayside and we never got to explore it.

564
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: So I would love to see, you know, what was

565
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: happening in the sixties for the Michaelson's. I'd love to

566
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: go explore that.

567
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 5: That would be fine.

568
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, really exciting. That would be really fun

569
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: to see. I think you though when you went with

570
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: you and Daniel were in the past, that was a

571
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: lot of wigs.

572
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that.

573
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: Mine was it was like shorter and wavy, like kind

574
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: of like Jim Morrison from The Doors. I mean, I

575
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: went through a lot of wigs on that show. You know,

576
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: we bounced about eras a lot, but.

577
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: So it's kind of about a boyish like the wig.

578
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: No your hair. Yeah, it was like kind of.

579
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: Like his like kind of like like like her rocks,

580
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: like Jim Morrison kind.

581
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: Of like this. I just think of you as a

582
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Kirk Cobain.

583
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you want.

584
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: She's like, can we go stop at abercadab and buy

585
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: that wig because I want you to wear that tonight.

586
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: She wear.

587
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: Blonde wig the other week and she had it on

588
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 4: and she was like trying to make me do Cobaine

589
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: impressions and she's filming it, and this is what she

590
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: does when she films it. She could just just just

591
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: for us, this is just for us, you know, and

592
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: tries to convince me like it's never gonna go for.

593
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 2: I never put anything. I sometimes just want it for me.

594
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: For the archives.

595
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: I'm terrified of all the just for videos. I've been

596
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: accumulating that that's.

597
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: What people are really going to want to see.

598
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: The documentary just coming to Amazon Prime next year.

599
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: We're building a whole slate here, a whole production coming slate.

600
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: This is happening Girlfriend Vampire Girlfriends just for us, the documentary.

601
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: What else are we going to come up with I

602
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: can't wait, I can't wait, and what about you?

603
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: Was there? Storyline?

604
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: Storyline? I mean I really wanted her to get more

605
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: politically active, like to be more of an activist, because

606
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: they were shying away back then from activism. But now

607
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: that's absolutely okay, and that's I feel like the path

608
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: she might have gone down. But yeah, more activism because

609
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: they were on the direction of possibly because we didn't

610
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: you know, we got cut early. It was like exploring

611
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: her having success. And she's been the one that's been

612
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: mooching off her friends for the last like eight years,

613
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: so it was going to be kind of fun to

614
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 2: see her have success. Yeah, in music and in life.

615
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: That would be really cool, all right, You never know,

616
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: never know, a lot of ideas are floating around today.

617
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: For sure, you both have had such amazing careers and

618
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: such success that people dream of in your world, right,

619
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's hard to remember that and keep that

620
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: perspective because you know, the grind of life and it

621
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: just happens and you go, go, go go girl. Do

622
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: you feel proud of what you both have accomplished individually

623
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: and together, and how would you describe this chapter of

624
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: your lives that you're in right now.

625
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I'm immensely proud of what of the

626
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: work that I've done and that we've done together. It's

627
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: amazing because because we've built up this connection with the fans,

628
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: you know, we do get reminded of how much that

629
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: work has meant to people, which is incredibly rewarding and humbling.

630
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, it's weird when you're filming it,

631
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 4: you're in a bubble, you know, and you don't realize

632
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: the impact it's having because you're just running. You're just

633
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: you know, running, and especially on network television, you know,

634
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 4: it's twenty two episodes a year and eight day episodes.

635
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: You're filming nine and a half months out of the year.

636
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: It's it's just NonStop. But yeah, I do have moments

637
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: of reflection now, definitely over what that meant to people,

638
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: especially like when I went back to do the Little

639
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: Legacies cameo at the end of that show. I watched

640
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: some of the fan videos that have been put together,

641
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: of which there are many, and these these kind of

642
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: montages people have put together of their favorite moments and

643
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: you know, put to music and all sorts of things,

644
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: and you realize what an impact it's had on people's

645
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: lives and all the tattoos that were asked to write

646
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: out for people to have tattooed and things like that.

647
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: It's incredible, the yeah, that the power the show has had,

648
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I'm incredibly proud of that. I think

649
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: it's I don't know, I don't have words for it really,

650
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: because it's to be a part of something which has

651
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: had such an impact on people.

652
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, what do you think?

653
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: We were just saying, how incredibly gracious and an enormous

654
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: amount of gratitude we feel. I feel more this year

655
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: in our lives. We just were talking about this the

656
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: other day and we were saying, God, it feels so

657
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: good because we try and keep our heads on straight.

658
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: I know that the world is complicated. Not everybody. There's

659
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: people I love that lose it. You know, it's hard.

660
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stress, anxiety, a lot of suffering,

661
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: a lot of pain, and we meet a lot of

662
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 2: people in pain. At these conventions. We get the honor

663
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: of connecting with the people. And prior to that, I

664
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: didn't really other than on the street, and we both

665
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: used to kind of run from people and be afraid

666
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: of it. You just don't know what to do with it.

667
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know what you want from me,

668
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: and I don't know what you're expecting, and it's just

669
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: too much pressure, really. And so because we've had so

670
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: much contact and the honor of the twenty five year anniversary,

671
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: there's just so many beautiful people I've met over the

672
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: years that say, you actually had a profound impact on

673
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: my life. Which we get in this hoping that we'll

674
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: just simply do well, make ourselves and maybe a family

675
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: member too proud, but you get into it and you're

676
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: actually affecting people's lives. I feel more grateful than I've

677
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: ever been in my entire life because we're taking all

678
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: of that. And then we also have a production company

679
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: where we're now taking the voices of the people who've

680
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: talked to us and the passion and the love that

681
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: we've received, and we're going to put it into products

682
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: that we try and create and make and put that

683
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: back out into the universe. But I think it's probably

684
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: the most like incredible thing to have people come up

685
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: to you and tell you the impact and know that

686
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: you did something good, because not everybody gets to do

687
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: that you know.

688
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, through through telling stories, you know, and that's what

689
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: we's that's what this chapter of our life is about now.

690
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: Like as you said, with this production company that we started,

691
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: you know, we from the beginning, we from the moment

692
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 4: we met, we were kind of telling stories to each

693
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: other and developing little things. We shot a couple of

694
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: short films with the Cruise from the Vampire Diaries and

695
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 4: then from the Originals, and you know, we were always

696
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: kind of developing these stories and these ideas and the

697
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: music videos that we show up with Persia, all of

698
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: these things. But now just taking that to the next level,

699
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: and you know, just continuing to bring stories to these

700
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 4: people who who mean so much to us and who's

701
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 4: you know, our stories have meant so much too. It's

702
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: really it's something we take very.

703
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Seriously and never thought Klausen Lynn would team, but I

704
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: can see it. It's happened that I like that we

705
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: meet double I call them like the two world crossover fans.

706
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: It's the best. Wait, you knew Lynn and you new

707
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: clubs and you're going, oh wait, okay, that that's kind

708
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: of outrageous, but Lynn is very accepting.

709
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 4: It turns out she's incredibly open minded, very forgiving.

710
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, well that's amazing. There seems to

711
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: be some things in the works and more coming from

712
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: you guys down the line.

713
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: Huh yeah.

714
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we're working really hard. You know, we are quite

715
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: driven and spend most of our time that we have,

716
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: you know, pushing one thing forward or another.

717
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: So you have a lot of writing lately, and we

718
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: collaborate and we've always been collaborating though. But it's exciting

719
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: to do it knowing what the fans want to a degree,

720
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: like it's your own creative and your own excited, enthusiastic,

721
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: passionate energies connected. But also it's exciting to know the

722
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: kind of things that really connect to us and the people.

723
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: You know, I love being bold and risky and open

724
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: minded and inclusive and daring, and Joseph scares people.

725
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think also, you know, everything that we're developing,

726
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: there's a common thread with it, which is this the

727
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: idea of family and an imperfect family.

728
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: You know, a family that.

729
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: Needs to stick together or that it's to a certain

730
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: degree is forced to stick together and.

731
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 3: Has each other.

732
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: But also none of these are kind of perfect family relationships.

733
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: It comes with all of the trauma and the dynamics

734
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 4: of a real life family.

735
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: And bullying is a big thing. And as from social

736
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: we've learned a lot, even with our fans, A girl

737
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: actually ended up committing suicide and it was season.

738
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 4: Two, that was when I first joined Vampire Diaries. I

739
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 4: remember hearing about that and it was like a thirteen

740
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 4: year old girl and it was just through bullying over

741
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: the ships you know on the show, and it's so

742
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: crazy and so it can be so toxic that the

743
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: social media bullying. And that's again why we made an effort,

744
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: especially during the pandemic, to connect with the fans and

745
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: to promote this sort of safe space where that was

746
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: the you know, the core of it all.

747
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: And then a lot of themes with characters sort of

748
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: the underdog and overcoming obstacles. It's I think even if

749
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: you look at Klaus's backstory, he was bullied, you know,

750
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: and that theme of overcoming everything and being your stronger

751
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: self is and of course, you know, I love the

752
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: themes of that between Lynn and being an activist, just

753
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: really the underdog overcoming the world could be against you,

754
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: but you overcome all of it with heart and passion.

755
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like, you guys are working on some

756
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: good things, things that the world needs. So I'm excited

757
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: to see what's to come. That sounds really really cool.

758
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: You two, I could talk to you for four more hours.

759
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 5: This is.

760
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

761
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: I am so enjoying this conversation. I wrap up every

762
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: episode with the same question, which was born because I

763
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: cover a lot of red carpet premieres and sit down junkets.

764
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: But you both know very well from doing them, and

765
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's so quick. It's two minutes on a carpet,

766
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: four minutes out of junket. It's not the most real

767
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: conversation you can have with somebody. It's you know, very

768
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: much SoundBite driven and the same question being asked because

769
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: every outlet needs it right. So that's how this show

770
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: was born. I was kind of seeing a little something

771
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: in the eyes of people that I was speaking to, like, oh,

772
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I just like wish I could say a little something

773
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: more like I don't want to say this again. And

774
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: that's the concept for the show, is to bring people

775
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: on and ask this question, to give them a space

776
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: to say something they've never really had a change has

777
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: to say before. Whatever that means to the individual that

778
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: they want to say. So that question is, what is

779
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: something that each of you has never said before that

780
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: you want to share today.

781
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: We've talked about this really quick.

782
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

783
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Is it the heavy version, meaning the deep stuff? Or

784
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: are you light or do you have a preference for

785
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: the light deep or a taste of each.

786
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 5: I leave that up to my guests.

787
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay.

788
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: Which one are you gonna go with?

789
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: I will Most people tend to go more deep. They

790
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to do that, they feel awkward

791
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: doing it in other platforms.

792
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: But that's not to say that has to be the one.

793
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: So it's up to you.

794
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: It's good to know that. No, we wanted to know

795
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: because we were worried that my mediate impulse was deep,

796
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: and then I thought, is that too deep? Are they

797
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: wanting something light and we're gonna go dark and serious

798
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: or are we going to keep it fluffy? But okay,

799
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: it's up to us, and it's an opportunity to say something.

800
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: That yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay.

801
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: So there probably elements of this have been touched on,

802
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 4: but I don't think I've kind of come at it

803
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 4: as a whole. So I moved when I was young

804
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: to Wales, from England, so I was in a place

805
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 4: with a different accent and with kids that I didn't

806
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: know who'd all started school before me. So there was

807
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: definitely an aspect of being an outsider, and I found

808
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: it really hard to make any friends. There was actually

809
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: quite a lot of animosity in school, and I got

810
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: quite a lot of bullying. I remember my best friend

811
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: at the time would only be my best friend in secret,

812
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: like to everyone else, he said he didn't like me

813
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: because that was the that was the thing, right, So

814
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: at ten years old, I maybe no, maybe it was

815
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: even younger, eight or nine, I convinced everybody in my

816
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: class that I was a vampire. And I think it

817
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: was partly inspired by you know, I was inspired by

818
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: reading all these vampire novels and stuff even as a kid,

819
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 4: and I was thinking about it recently because you know,

820
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 4: there was a lot of the bullying that kind of

821
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 4: continued throughout most of school, Like I can't remember all

822
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: the kids singing about me in the class and all

823
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: with the teacher there until finally stopped them. And it

824
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: was mostly emotional and verbal, but sometimes physical as well.

825
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: And I think that my thinking behind telling everyone that

826
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: I was a vampire was because I was already being

827
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: treated as this outsider and this outcast, and so the

828
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: idea of making that a powerful reason, you know, making

829
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: that in my even in my own imagination, to convince

830
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: myself at times of that that the reason why I'm

831
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: different and I'm being shunned in this way or being

832
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: cast out is because I've got this kind of dark,

833
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: powerful secret, and that helped me get through school. It

834
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 4: sounds crazy maybe saying it out loud, but it helped

835
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: me get through feeling that like, no, I'm I'm special

836
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: and different and for these sort of powerful reasons, and

837
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: that they that's why I've been I've been cast out

838
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: in this way. And so I think that is what

839
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: I put into the character of Claus, is those feelings

840
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: from being like a young kid like that and being

841
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: treated like that really until I left school and went

842
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: to a performing arts college where.

843
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: I found my tribe.

844
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, so I think that maybe is what helped

845
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: other people connect with the character as well. Is all

846
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: of these people in the world who feel like outsiders

847
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: and feel like outcasts, feel like they're not accepted, seeing

848
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: character who has genuinely been through been down that road

849
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: and been through those experiences and is so strong and

850
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 4: will stand up to anyone and will stand up for

851
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 4: people in those circumstances, and so close for me was

852
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: the sort of person that I wanted on my side.

853
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: He was the person I wanted to be, or I

854
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: wanted to in my corner at least. And maybe I

855
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: feel like upon reflection, that that's why people connected is

856
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: because so there was genuine experiences from my life sort

857
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: of well channeled into that, probably quite cathartic as well

858
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: to do that.

859
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. Thank you for sharing that. I

860
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: think it's something so many of us do. We all

861
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: have our own coping mechanisms right to get through whatever

862
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: we perceive as a difficult time in our lives. And

863
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting that that ended up helping you create something

864
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: that became so meaningful to so many people. That's that's

865
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: the universe giving you a little wink saying I got you. Yeah,

866
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: I got you.

867
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: So that's that's really cool. Thank you for that. Yeah,

868
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: and my dear.

869
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: May have I haven't gotten into this whole story ever.

870
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: I've mentioned it to friends, but i'ven't done it in

871
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: an interview. I didn't ever meet my real father. I've

872
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: never met my real father, and I didn't know that

873
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: my stepfather wasn't my father. Growing up, I moved from

874
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: the Bahamas. I grew up in the Bahamas, but I

875
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Speaker 2: moved and I was seven because my stepfather was paralyzed

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00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: in a car accident and he was in a wheelchair

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Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. And when I moved

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Speaker 2: to America, I just thought that that was I grew

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00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: up believing that was my father, but he was very

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00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: distant because of the handicap. He wasn't part of our life.

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00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: And when I was twenty one, I had this feeling,

882
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: this this premonition, and it was really just a spiritual thing.

883
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: And I came to my mother and I said, I

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Speaker 2: know he's biologically my father, but I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: he's my father. There's something missing, and there's a link,

886
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: something's off. And she was like, well, how would you

887
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: feel if he wasn't your father? And I was thinking

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00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: she was just being theoretical, and I was like, I'd

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Speaker 2: probably feel free because it would make sense. And so

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Speaker 2: she said, well, I've never told you this. She started

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Speaker 2: crying and she was like, I didn't want you to

892
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: hate me. Promise you won't hate me, and I was like,

893
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Speaker 2: I'm the most open minded person in the world. You know,

894
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: I won't hate you. And she said, he's not your father,

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Speaker 2: and so we went to find my real father and

896
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Speaker 2: he had just died, so I didn't ever get to

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Speaker 2: meet my real father. But it was like a very

898
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: huge cathotic relief knowing that I had felt this feeling

899
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Speaker 2: like something was off. I remember even looking for adoption

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Speaker 2: papers in my mom's papers when I was at search

901
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: because people'd always say, are you adopted? But they were

902
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: asking me because because my brothers and sisters are all white,

903
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: I'm the only mixed one. My mom was with two

904
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Speaker 2: different marriages, and so it was all because of that,

905
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: and I was like, but I just feel like this foreigner.

906
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: I feel like this outsider. And that was the real link,

907
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: was that he wasn't my actual father, and it was

908
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: even all the way down to the scent. I was like,

909
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: there's something off. I feel like this person's a stranger.

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Speaker 2: But I'm supposed to be like Daddy when I see him,

911
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: which was only for visiting, you know, jump on his lap.

912
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Speaker 2: And I would be like, I feel like I'm doing this,

913
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: like I'm playing a role. I'm supposed to be, so

914
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Speaker 2: sometimes I think that's what makes me relate to the

915
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Speaker 2: outsiders as well. In the outcasts and even like types

916
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: of roles that have cultivated were people who are in

917
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: situations where they're not organically from And even Lynn was adopted,

918
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: and so I really relate to adopted people even though

919
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't adopted. So growing up being mixed race in

920
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: an all white family had huge challenges and going from

921
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, different communities to my home life and being

922
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: between different worlds so to speak, and at the end

923
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 2: of the day just taught me to like absolutely love

924
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 2: and understand and accept these these barriers and these lines

925
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: that we put up or imaginary they're built. It's not

926
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: actual reality, and people all want the same thing. We

927
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: all want love and but to cross between the different

928
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Speaker 2: worlds and tell everybody to be kind to each other

929
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Speaker 2: has always been kind of my job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well that's first of all, thank you

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Speaker 1: for sharing that as well. That's a very personal thing

932
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Speaker 1: to share. And I think what's so cool about both

933
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Speaker 1: your stories is, while very different stories, it's about trusting

934
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Speaker 1: a little voice inside of yourself to go through something

935
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Speaker 1: to help you feel better In the long run right

936
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Speaker 1: to put this persona on to get through what you

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Speaker 1: were going through, to trust that voice, to feel free

938
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Speaker 1: or knowing that truth. And I think we all have it,

939
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Speaker 1: and some call it intuition.

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Speaker 4: Right.

941
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Speaker 1: If you tap into that a little bit, it's amazing

942
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Speaker 1: what can come and what you can feel as a result.

943
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Speaker 1: So I think that's really really cool man. Like I said,

944
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed this so much. I really, I really think

945
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Speaker 1: that aside from having a great time with this conversation,

946
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts was watching the two of

947
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: you look at each other when the other one was speaking,

948
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: because you both just look at each other with such

949
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: admiration and awe when the other one has the mic.

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00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: And that's really cool to see because I am a

951
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: sucker for love and I think it's a beautiful thing.

952
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: And I just thank you too. Are are great spirits

953
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: and I'm really happy you came on.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for having us.

955
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. It's it's really beautiful to be here.

956
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: And this was this was like, it's so nice to

957
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: be in a space where it's a bit thought thought

958
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: provoking and organic. And since you're in a world that

959
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, we all want to be entertained and have fun.

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00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: But I really love this stuff. That's that's sincere and deep.

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Speaker 5: So thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Both come back anytime, and you have a lot of

963
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Speaker 1: developing to do, so get to it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Diderio.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced