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They played almost nine hundred 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: a thousand minutes, and he every series was a little 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: less efficient. And then in the end he faced his 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: best defense in the Warriors, and as young as he 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: is and as talented as he is, the Miami series 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: go seven, the Milwaukee Physical Milwaukee Series goes seven, and 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: Jason I thought Tatum was gassed. I just didn't think 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: he had any lift. A lot of his shots were short, 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: and I just don't want to be one of these 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: guys that you know, bangs on him. I don't see 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: a superstar here. And I said this over the series, 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I see a star. I see a ten time All Star. 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I love him as a player, But you know, this 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: team is pretty in artistic offensively. I could take out 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: three brief great Celtic offensive runs in this series three 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: and this series was over in game ago and it 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: was way uglier. They really struggle to get points, and 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: I think you'd notice the stations. This series went on 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum was fatigued. The offense just got uglier 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: and uglier. They got worse and worse, And I think 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: you can just tie it to Jason Tatum. This team 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: needs his offense so badly, they lean on him so greatly. 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean, God, the Warriors went in a huge run, 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: earning in this game late first quarter. Steph wasn't even 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: part of it, and so I just wanted to defend 50 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Jason's Tatum to start is I thought, I thought he 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: gave a great playoff series, really his longest, first big 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: long series run where he is a recognized as a 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: top twelve player in the league. I thought he ran 54 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: out of gas, and I think as he ran out 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: of gas, their offense ran out of gas. Yeah. Agree, 56 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: And you know I'd be lying with you or lying 57 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: to you if I didn't say I'm a little disappointed. 58 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: I certainly expected more out of him in this series, 59 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: and I do think he got exposed for a handful 60 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: of specific weaknesses. His ability to take care of the basketball, 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: his inconsistent playmaking, his reliance on pull up jump shooting, 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: and when that started to fail him, how he seemed 63 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: to have a lesser impact. And then really struggling to 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: finish around the rim. He was below fifty percent in 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: the restricted area in this series, which is that's bad 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: for Russell Westbrook, let alone a big scoring wing that 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: has physical advantages around the basket. I think he absolutely 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: played a role in the sense that those Milwaukee Miami 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: series has had no business going to seven games. And 70 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: you're right in the sense that early in the series 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: when Tatum was better right Game one thirteen assists, didn't 72 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: shoot the ball well, but he was creating shots for 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: his teammates and getting consistent dribble penetration. And then in 74 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Game three he had a dominant fourth quarter that was 75 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: a huge part of why Boston won Game three. And 76 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: you're right, as he started to fade, the rest of 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the team started to fade because of how much they 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: depend on him as their initial initiator as far as 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: Boston goes looking forward, I still think Tatum can be 80 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: the best player on a championship team. I agree with 81 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: you that he's not a superstar, but I also think 82 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: that you can win a title if your best player 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: is as good as Jason Tatum. You just need to 84 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: be really sharp elsewhere on the floor, and their glaring 85 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: lack of a playmaker became a bigger issue with each 86 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: passing series. And you know, specifically with Miami, they were 87 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: so well coached and Eric Spoelscher did such a good 88 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: job throwing them off kilter that I had a fe 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: that Golden State would have a lot of success against 90 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: him defensively because it's Steve Kerr, a similar type of 91 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: intellect on the coaching staff as Eric Spoelscher, but with 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: the personnel to do the job. And so, yeah, I'm 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: with you. I think we need to at least at 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: least look at this from Tatum. Is what it was 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: a young player who's not ready for the stage yet. Yeah, 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean we have to acknowledge that he played a 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: ton of minutes. He was also needed to be a 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: defensive stopper. I mean the idea that the Warriors can 99 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: throw Jason Tatum Draymond Green for the record, Draymond was 100 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: so good night, he was so engaged, he was so fanta. 101 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: It was such championship pedigree, championship basketball. And that's the 102 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: thing about Draymond is that a great basketball player. And 103 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: this is why I think Curry is so great. Curry's 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: motion is fluidity on the offense is that the fact 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: about that Draymond Green doesn't have to score to be 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: so versatile, to be so valuable. He's such a catalyst, 107 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: his rebounds, his defense, tipping the ball, you know, he 108 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: just he he can really manipulate officials at this point 109 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: in his career. He can get a lot of physicality 110 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: in not called for a foul. There were two or 111 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: three times that I had he blocked Tatum, he'd block 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: a Jalen Brown shot, and you're like, oh, that's that's close. 113 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: But he has so many minutes, so many finals game 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: experiences that he can really he's he's become a manipulator. 115 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: Jordan was the great at this just a manipulator of 116 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: the officials. And you know, when this series started, Jason, 117 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I think we both agreed that Boston had more athletes 118 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: in their prime and more two way players, but the 119 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Warriors had a much greater reservoir of offensive skill. I mean, 120 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: in this series, when Gary Payton, it may have been 121 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: the last game when Gary Payton had fifteen points, I'm like, okay, 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: come on now, when Garry Payton's dropping fifteen and you 123 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: got Jordan Poole, who was awful early in the series, 124 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: and then Steph and then Clay and then Wiggins and 125 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: it's like, okay. Now, as the series went on, you 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: could see the breadth of the Warriors offensive skill started 127 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: to really separate because they didn't rely on Steff. Steph 128 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: could gave to twenty eight and they weren't relying on him, 129 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: and he may be in the game, but he's not 130 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: having to break people down. And I just thought that prediction. 131 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: I felt like I got right, Like it's an offensive league. 132 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Celtics had more top defenders, Warriors had much deeper offensive skill. 133 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: And the longer it went on, really, in the last 134 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: three games, it was so obvious they just have more 135 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: good shooters, more guys that can beat you off the dribble. 136 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, as you beat guys off the dribble, you 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: get other guys feeds. I mean, how many open threes 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: in the last two games did the Warriors get? I 139 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: mean wide open threes tonight. Golden State appeared to become 140 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: the far more comfortable team in the last two games, 141 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: which was very much not the case through the first 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: four games. I'd argue Boston was significantly more comfortable with 143 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: their physicality, with Draymond like man down to one, everything 144 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: looking precarious. He's not playing up to his standard at 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: that point. Then he gets into it with CJ McCollum 146 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: and like straight up calls his shot and it is 147 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: like it is like, yeah, we're You're gonna not have 148 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: a ring, just like Boston's not gonna have a ring. 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: And not only did Golden State win three straight to 150 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: win the series at that point, but Draymond was fantastic 151 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: and his hands around the basket, especially below the rim, 152 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: are the best that I've seen in the league from 153 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: a rim protector, because there's different ways to be a 154 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: rim protector. It doesn't have to be up top. Yeah, 155 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be up top. You don't have 156 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: to be jumping with people like Draymond does, have long 157 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: arms and he disrupts people down below. How many times 158 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: did you see Al Horford expose the ball around the 159 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: basket tonight and Draymond just knocked the ball free like that. 160 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Just a legendary type of performance from Drayne. And I'm 161 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: glad you pointed out the role players because I thought 162 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: it was a super big swing factor in this game. 163 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: I tweeted out when Golden State at eighteen points. Ten 164 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: of their first eighteen were from Clay Andrew Wiggins and 165 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Poole, And I thought that was a huge indicator 166 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: of the way the rest of the game would go, 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: because those guys, in order to win in Boston in 168 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: this type of game, those guys had to be comfortable 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: and then getting going early was a huge part of that. 170 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: And Gary Payton, Gary Payton the second, for whatever reason, 171 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: he's become kind of like this poster boy for being 172 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: like the scrappy guy that fought from a terrible situation 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: to get to the league, and people forget how dominant 174 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: he was as a college basketball player. I played in 175 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: junior college in the same conference as him. We were 176 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: on the same all conference team. After the year after 177 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I left, he won Player of the Year and then 178 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: he was an All American at Oregon State. Like, this 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: dude is a damn good basketball player. He just he 180 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: had some offensive limitations that caused him to get undervalued 181 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: in the NBA for a while. But this team has 182 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: a ton of talent, and you're right, it started to 183 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: show as the series progressed. You know. The other thing 184 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: is Boston I do think has to elevate offensively at point, 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: I think now he's too expensive, maybe like a Mike Conley, 186 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: a veteran presence. You know, Kyrie was actually perfect for 187 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: this team had it worked. A brilliant offense or performer. 188 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: Tatum's your two, Jalen's your three. Smart can play defense 189 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: to cover up for Kyrie Irving's weakness. He was perfect. 190 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: It just didn't work chemistry wise. Can they go find somebody, 191 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: because I do think when Chris Middleton comes back, even 192 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: if you're good, like the La Rams they were good, 193 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: they upgrade a receiver Alan Robinson Robert Woods out like. 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: You can't stay static in sports these days because people 195 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: are chasing you. And so even if the Celtics would 196 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: have won, the offense was so static and so hard 197 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: and so difficult and at times, outside of these brief spurts, 198 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: so clunky. There was no rhythm at all to night 199 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: for any long extended stretch. So I think they need 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: to address that, get a little bit of an offensive 201 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: presence somewhere in the guard spot. Golden State's interesting now 202 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: because Kuminga so Wiseman's going to add length, which they 203 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: desperately they really do need length. Kuminga is going to 204 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: add athleticism. He's gonna be like a young Wigan six seven, 205 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: a little sturdier two twenty. He's a very good defensive player. 206 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Moody is going to emerge. Jordan Pool. So I told you, Jason, 207 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I thought this was the year the old guys were 208 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: too old and the young guys were too young. And 209 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they want it convincingly, I'm like, oh no, 210 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: this are we going to go on a second, like 211 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: four year run. That's how I feel now. I could 212 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: be a little hyperbolic, but I kind of feel like wow, wow, 213 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: because now look at Phoenix right now, Jason, they don't 214 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: feel close. They don't feel close to this team. No, 215 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: not at all. First of all, Joe Laca, now's your 216 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: chance to take your victory lap man. This is the 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: time you have the trophy. It turns out you had 218 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: enough horses now could take your victory lap. You know, 219 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: as far as Boston goes, they're gonna be tempted to 220 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: not do anything because there's a glass half full way 221 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: of looking at this, Like, did any of us see 222 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: Boston going to the finals this year? No, none of 223 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: us did. So you could argue they're ahead of schedule right, 224 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: like Tatum's young, Brown's young. You can argue that my 225 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: thing is, like always account for the fact that the 226 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: league's going to get better with Milwaukee coming back with 227 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: a healthy Chris Middleton next year. My guess is that 228 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: Miami makes some big swing trade this summer. I like 229 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: them as a potential Bradley Beal destination. You know you're 230 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: gonna see. I wouldn't be surprised if Brooklyn retools in 231 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form next year in the West, 232 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: like like, who knows what's gonna happen with the Lakers, 233 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: but the Clippers will be very, very good next year. 234 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: The Sun's obviously. It so much depends on them doing 235 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: something with Chris Paul and getting improvement elsewhere. At bottom line, though, 236 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: the league always gets better, and the teams that stand 237 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: pat and or lose talent I e. Milwaukee ditching PJ. Tucker, 238 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: they always end up paying the price for that. You 239 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: know a great Another great example as the Dallas Mavericks 240 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven immediately dumped Tyson Chandler Like, no, you 241 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: need to continually load up the deck because you have 242 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: no idea how difficult it's gonna be down the line. 243 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: So I'm with you, I think I think Boston I don't. 244 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: I really need to take some time to look at 245 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: what's available this summer because they need to find something 246 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: to add offensive IQ, a person who's a a sturdy 247 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: force on the offensive end. As far as Golden State goes, 248 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: and again there's they're in great shape because step I 249 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: would argue Steph is going to have a better season 250 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: next year than he did this year because he did 251 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: not shoot well during the regular season this year with 252 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: all the personnel stuff. You know, Clay Thompson's second year 253 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: coming back from injuries. That second year is always the 254 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: year that those guys regain their form, when they really 255 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with their body again. Jordan Poole was I 256 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: mean Colin. Early in the series, we were worried about 257 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: whether or not he could play. He was awesome. Down 258 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: the stretch of this series, he was awesome. Like George 259 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Pool looks Boston. If you put Jordan Poole on Boston 260 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: one player, You're like, that's what they need. They just 261 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: need an effortless guy that can get them fifteen points, 262 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: that can kind of create his own shot. They just increasingly, 263 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a I'm not saying he would have 264 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: changed the series entirely, but it's like that's kind of 265 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: what they need. 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You know it's interesting about Steph. 315 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: I said this. I've never understood the Steph criticism. But 316 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: on my Mount Rushmore of basketball, I would go Michael, Magic, 317 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: Lebron and Kareem And I think there's three indisputably great 318 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: centers Kareem Russell and Wilt. Russell got the titles. Kareem 319 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: got titles and scoring. Wilt got scoring but no titles 320 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: and was kind of a flake. So I would go Kareem, Lebron, 321 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: Michael and Magic. But you start going to that second 322 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: little less mount a little less more, and I'd go Russell, Kobe, Russell, 323 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: Kobe are on it. So Kobe's the closest thing to 324 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: Michael Bill. Russell's my second best center, probably Larry Bird 325 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: because when he came into the league, you can go 326 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: back and read the stories, it was like he's a forward. 327 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: He's the best shooter in the league and maybe the 328 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: best passer. And I think you start getting into Steph territory. 329 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: I really do, because influence matters, and you know, Russell 330 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: massive influence, the rebirth of the Celtics, Bird a huge story, franchise, 331 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: massive influence, Kobe Shack one of the great teams ever. 332 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: There's arguments to be made. It's a Duncan, it's Barkley, 333 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: it's doctor Jo. That's fine. I think Steph, I think 334 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: this MVP pre KD with Kadi post Kad you and 335 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: I know he's great. But for all the critics like, 336 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: there's no more critics tonight. It's a dead end sign 337 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: at the end of the cul de sact for the critics. 338 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: Just turn the car around. There's no reason to go 339 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: down here. Like I think Steph has literally put himself 340 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: in an indisputable second tier of the greatest players ever. Agree, 341 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. The player he reminds me the most 342 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: of Colin is Tim Duncan, because you know, you look 343 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: at Tim Duncan's career and it's there's a lot of similarities. 344 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: Like dynastic franchise that's extraordinarily, extraordinarily well run from the 345 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: top down, you know, incredible head coach that's kind of 346 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: like a pillar in the NBA, and then you've got 347 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: this leader on the team who arguably has never been 348 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: the best guy in the league. Like I would argue 349 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: that Lebron has been consistently better than him in Jannis 350 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: is better than him now, right, but like he's always 351 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: been right there. Tim Duncan similar thing. He was always 352 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: like just a little bit less good than Shack, just 353 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: a little bit below where Kobe was, but he had 354 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: this you know, they were the perfect guy for that 355 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: type of dynastic franchise because they are the consummate professional, 356 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: incredibly coachable. There are a lot of great players in 357 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: the league who could never play for someone like Greg 358 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Popovitch or for someone like Steve Kerr. You know, Lebron, 359 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: for instance, is a guy that I've been critical of. 360 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: A is a guy who's difficult to coach. You know. 361 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: He's also a very like a very steady leader like 362 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Steph and Tim Duncan, never passive aggressive, never subtweeting teammates, 363 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: never showing demonstrative out of control behavior on the court. 364 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: They're just never too high, never too low. Perfect leaders, 365 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: but arguably never better than the best guys in the league. 366 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: But that said, Tim Duncan won five championships, and it's similar. 367 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: It has some similarities to the step thing, where you know, 368 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: there's some near misses like the twenty thirteen season, or 369 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: for Steph the near miss in two sixteen or the 370 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: near miss in two nineteen, and then the extended success 371 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: combined with loyalty, you know, staying in one place for 372 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: a very long time and that sort of thing. I 373 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: think it's overlooked and it's very rare in NBA, in 374 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: the modern NBA now to have a guy and to 375 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: have a group of players that stays on course in 376 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: a mission like this for the better part of a 377 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: decade and goes through the good times and the bad. 378 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's a huge part calling why the 379 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: Golden State fan base is so ravenous and why their 380 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: ratings are so good compared to the other teams in 381 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: the league. They have bred a credibly loyal fan base 382 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: by not cracking under the pressure and doing what I 383 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: was telling them to do to trade all their young guys, 384 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: or or or being you know, following the current mold. 385 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: They they followed a very unique mold and as a result, 386 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: they've got the loyal fan base, they've got the consistent success, 387 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: and to me that Steph Tim duncancop makes the most 388 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: sense for me a long time, long term. Yes, Steph 389 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: did win the MVP tonight, so um, you know. And 390 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: speaking of Kadu, I said it when it happened. I 391 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: thought it was an egregious mistake in judgment for Kadi 392 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: to leave the Warriors to play with a friend. The basketball, 393 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: American basketball culture sort of supports more than reports on stars. 394 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: They need access to stars up here an NBA rider, 395 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: So everybody supported Katie and I said, how ridiculous would 396 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: it look if Patrick Mahomes left the Chiefs to play 397 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: with the Jets to play with a friend. I mean 398 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: you'd literally say, dude, get therapy, Like this is ridiculous. 399 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Any read Travis Kelsey like what 400 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: are you doing? And I said it with Katie, I'm 401 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: going to play that game of pandering and play kating 402 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: a star. I love KAD. This was a huge error 403 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: in judgment to go to a non viable franchise with 404 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: a kookie guy in Kyrie Irving. Now he's got Ben 405 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Simmons and listen, KD has text a few people I 406 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: know in the media, well what if the Warriors don't win? Well, 407 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: they did and easily, like easily the last three games 408 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: of this series, Like it's kind of ugly, and so 409 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I if you take out one great quarter 410 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: by the Celtics, that fourth quarter in Game one, this 411 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: series could have been really quick. So you know this 412 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: is you know, it's a cautionary tale. Is that KD, 413 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: a non confrontational personality, just did not confront He did 414 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: not confront Draymond Green and hash out their problems. And 415 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: in the end he's two first round exits. They're not 416 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: winning a championship, Simmons, Drummond, Curry. You know, Kyrie, you're 417 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: not winning a championship. You're gonna be you know, you're 418 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: gonna be really talented. But I mean, they don't have 419 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the bench, they don't have the coaching of like the 420 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: Warriors or Milwaukee. I feel bad for Kad because he'll 421 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer first ballot. It's one of 422 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the twenty most talented guys ever. But and I tell this, 423 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: young broadcasters, there's a sea of money, don't chase it. 424 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: Chemistry culture. There are very very few great cultures in business, 425 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: in broadcasting, in basketball, and this culture between Bob Meyers, 426 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr, Steph Curry, he found it, like he really 427 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: found the perfect basketball culture where they just wanted Katie 428 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: to come in and hoop, and he just he just 429 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: felt like unloved. And it's like I would have just said, dude, 430 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: get a therapist, work your way through this. Don't go 431 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: anywhere I find Rich claiming his agent like, just go 432 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: to a therapist, will pay, just just figure it out. 433 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: And I do I feel a little sorrow for him 434 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: because I think he's just too great to be saddled 435 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: with less serious players. Well, and what concerns me now 436 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: is you were talking about Phoenix being far away. Doesn't 437 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Brooklyn feel so far away now? They feel so far away. 438 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: They're not a Ben Simmons away from fixing their problems. 439 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: You know my theory about what happened in Golden State. 440 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: We were talking about the fan base earlier. That fan 441 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: base is incredibly loyal to Steph Curry, and it's kind 442 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: of one of those things where even though step willingly 443 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: accepted KD as an equal partner, even though the franchise 444 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: willingly accepted Kadi as an equal partner, really Draymond was 445 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: the only guy who ever really pushed back on him 446 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: for some of the ego stuff in there, But everyone 447 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: in the organization was arms wide open, ready to do 448 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: whatever Kad needed. I think it was the public pressure, Colin. 449 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: I think it was the fan base giving all the 450 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: credit to Steph. I think it was them calling him, 451 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, someone who jumped on their bandwagon. And if 452 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: there's one thing, and for the record, one of my 453 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: favorite things about Kad is he's ultimately one hundred percent authentic, 454 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: which is super rare in the NBA. Star You know 455 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: a sector like that. So many guys are concerned with 456 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: their brand and will not say what's on their mind 457 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: because they don't want to send a certain message. Kadi 458 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: is very just lets his heart and soul out on 459 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: the table. And I think him being concerned with the 460 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: media so much and him being concerned with what the 461 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: fans thought about him winning two titles with Golden State 462 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: allowed him to look in another direction so that he 463 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: could build his own thing to ultimately get that appreciation 464 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: as the cornerstone of a championship team that he never 465 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: got with Golden State. And what's unfortunate about that is 466 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: to your point calling Golden State didn't care. They were like, no, Kevin, 467 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: just come and play with us. We don't care if 468 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: you could do whatever you want, like we need you here. 469 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: We are the perfect spot for you. But he couldn't 470 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: see beyond the criticism. He couldn't see beyond the narratives. 471 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: And if there's one thing that you know about Steph, 472 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't give a shit about the narrative. He doesn't 473 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: care about anything. All he cares about is winning, which 474 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: is why he was the perfect guy for Katie to 475 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: partner with it. I'm thankful Katie left because I don't know. 476 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could have enjoyed the NBA 477 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: if there was a half decade of them winning every 478 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: single NBA finals easily. I'm want to go back to 479 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: what I said at the beginning. The longer this series went, 480 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: the uglier it got. The Warriors defense exposed a real 481 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: weakness for Boston, which is they got dogs. They got 482 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: multiple elite defenders, they have two way players. Artistically, this 483 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: is not an offense with a great deal of rhythm. 484 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: They were next to last in the NBA's regular season 485 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: this year in clutch points. They were fourteenth and three 486 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: point shooting. Good coach, work hard, a lot of dogs 487 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: play both ways offensively. Not a great team Golden State is. 488 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: And the longer this series went on, you saw the 489 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: reservoir of talent that Golden State has. Jordan Pool, Andrew Wiggins, 490 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: Steph Clay Draymond was good tonight. Clooney can just play 491 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: on the Cavon Looney can just play on the boards. 492 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: They've got three young kids that didn't play in this series. 493 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Wouldn't Peyton at one point scored fifteen points. And I 494 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: said before the series, Golden State's got a better group 495 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: of offensive players. It's an offensive over a defensive league. 496 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: At some point, they're just going to be able to 497 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: get more points consistently in this series, and I think 498 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: that's what we saw, is that the more fluid offense, 499 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: the greatest offensive player Steph, I mean Wiggins. Wiggins is 500 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: a twenty point a game guy at any point. And 501 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: I think this league, you can be a great defensive team. 502 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: But I just thought the longer the series went, you 503 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: saw how how how challenged the Celtics were offensively. And 504 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: we came into this series talking about Boston's defense. There 505 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: are analytics that argue the Warriors are the better defensive team. 506 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, the two best defensive teams in the league. 507 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: Both offenses not as good as usual. The difference is 508 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: if you really stack up skill offensively, it's not really 509 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: that close. It's really really not that close. One team 510 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: probably has seven of the best nine or ten offensive 511 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: skilled players, and it's only going to get better. Moses Moody, Wiseman, 512 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Jonathan Cominga. They may just start a second run here, 513 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool. As we talked about bad in Game one, 514 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: really emerge late in this series. So for those just 515 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: joining us. I picked the Warriors in six. Jason timp 516 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: joining us, did you go Warriors in six or what 517 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: did you have? I was Warriors in seven, Warriors in seven. 518 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: I just think and we started our podcast saying, this 519 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: is longer the series went, you saw the limited offense exposed. 520 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's about as simply as I can put it. 521 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: You just you know, over time, the longer a game 522 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: goes and the longer a series goes. In basketball, the 523 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: skill wins. I don't care if it's the YMCA, I 524 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: don't care if it's the Final floor. I don't care 525 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: if it's the NBA Finals. Longer this puppy went. I mean, 526 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: you saw the Miami Boston series. You know, the longer 527 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: it went, it was very much Jimmy Butler and cross 528 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: your fingers. And in the end, I mean that that's 529 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: what happens in all these series. At the end of 530 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee series it was Yannis and cross your fingers, 531 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: and Boston would have a second scorer in Jalen Brown. 532 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: So I think the right team won. The right team 533 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: pulled away, and if you go back and examine the 534 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: last three games, they weren't. Oh was that competitive? It 535 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: was a pretty dominant finish to this series. It doesn't 536 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: feel like Old States stole this series by any stretch 537 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: of the imagination. You know, I'm higher on offense than 538 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: defense too. Analytics guys are heavy on the defensive end 539 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: of the floor because they just view it as a 540 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: simple question of math. Any basket given up is just 541 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: as detrimental as a basket gained on the other end, 542 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And the way I look 543 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: at it is you can coach up defense in a 544 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: way that you can't coach up offense. Not that coaching 545 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter in offense, it just matters more on the 546 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: defensive end. The Warriors are a great example of this. 547 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Steph and Clay post two injuries, Jordan Poole Draymond Green 548 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: as an undersize forward. Their defensive personnel is not as 549 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: good as a lot of the top defenses in the league, 550 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: but Steve Kerr has them always in the right spot. 551 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Their defensive game plan on Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum 552 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: over the course of this series was incredible. Honestly, I 553 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: thought the biggest swing in this series was in the 554 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: first three games. Tatum and Brown were getting consistent dribble 555 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: penetration over the course of the last three games, specifically, 556 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson, Gary Payton the second Draymond Green on Jalen 557 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Brown and Andrew Wiggins were phenomenal guarding Tatum and Brown. 558 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: It got to the point there towards the end where 559 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: the best offense for Boston was give the ball to 560 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: market smart and hope he can beat Steph Curry off 561 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: the dribble, because Tatum and Brown were struggling so much. 562 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: But that's the point is, even with limitations and defensive personnel, 563 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: a really smart coach, a really smart scheme in players 564 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: who are bought in one hundred percent, you can manufacture 565 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: a fact simile of a high end, elite NBA defense. 566 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: But on offense, yea guys Boston knew that they needed 567 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: to take care of the ball tonight email Judoka probably 568 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: preached it NonStop for three days and they went out 569 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: and turned it over twenty one times. So it's like 570 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. Like an offense is so much 571 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: more about personnel. It's can your guys create shots against 572 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: a good set defense, And so in that regard, a 573 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: Golden State's offensive personnel advantage was always going to matter 574 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: more in this series than Boston's two way personnel advantage, 575 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: and that's why we both picked Golden State. And also, 576 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: and this is one of the most important things that 577 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: people gloss over basketball, IQ is an offensive skill. Your 578 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: ability to understand the flow of a game, take care 579 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: of a basketball, take care of the basketball, take quality shots, 580 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: floor spacing. All of those things are a part of basketball. 581 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: Like you and look at Jason Tatum. He's got all 582 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: the talent offensively in the world, but he just lacks 583 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: that ability to be that game manager. I mean, it's 584 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: gotten to the point you and I've been preaching it 585 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: for months, but in the broadcast there towards the end 586 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: of that series, it became all anybody could talk about 587 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: because it's glaring coming off the screen, the lack of 588 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: offensive organization for Boston. But again, I mean, it's Golden 589 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: State's personnel. It's just going to continue to get better 590 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: from here as their young players continue to improve over 591 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: the years, and you know, them getting this title, it 592 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: buys you that additional offseason to give all those guys 593 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: a ton of work, another season in summer league, another 594 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: whole regular season to get a ton of reps. Since 595 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Steve Kirk plays everybody during the regular season, Like, if 596 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: you're a Golden State fan, you've got to be feeling 597 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: really comfortable about where this franchise is heading over the 598 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: next half decade. Well, and I joke about this all 599 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: the time on TV. The California is only going to 600 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: make this team more formidable because Joe Lake of this 601 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: team is going to make seven hundred million dollars this 602 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: year in revenue. The average NBA team that's healthy makes 603 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: two hundred million. So they have monetized the arena, the suites, 604 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: the parking, the real estate around the arena. They're not 605 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: going anywhere they can pay anybody. They're going to pay 606 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: more in salary tax than almost the league salary cap. 607 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: This is sort of what the Rams are going through 608 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. They're making so much game day money 609 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: with the Rams at so far that they have so 610 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: much money they can throw at players for guaranteed salary. 611 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: You got to have that Money's got to be in 612 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: the bank before you can write those checks. That's why 613 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: you can write a Cooper Cup check and Aaron Donald 614 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: check a Stafford check in three weeks. Not every team 615 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL can do that, and so with the Warriors, 616 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about a team that is making almost four 617 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: times what a healthy NBA team does, and they have 618 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: an owner. Maybe the recession will he'll scale back, but 619 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: we have an owner. Now. That's like, I don't care. 620 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: And I was saying this today in my perfect world, 621 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: if you draft and develop a player, you should be 622 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: able to pay him whatever the league allows, and it 623 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: should not count against your salary cap. If you go 624 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: buy KD, then it should count two times on the 625 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: cap for competitive balance. If you go buy a star, 626 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: that should count. Whatever his salary is, it should count twice. 627 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: But if you pay Steph forever in Infinity and Draymond 628 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: and Clay forever, you drafted and develop those guys, I 629 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: don't know why that counts against you. That's what you're 630 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: trying to do for audience loyalty. Draft players, develop players, 631 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: keep players, your city falls in love with them. Nobody 632 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: ever loved KD as much as Steph Clan Draymond, because 633 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: there's a he's you know, he's a visitor, right, and 634 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: so I think I wish the merceny told changed that. 635 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's a mercenary, So I wish the league 636 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: would change that. Where people in Milwaukee love that team 637 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: because outside of Drew Holiday, like, that's their guys. And 638 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: Brooklyn had the lowest ratings in the NBA this year. 639 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: With all these stars, they're just visitors. So the Warriors 640 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: aren't going anyway. They're they're going to be able to 641 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: develop all these young stars and keep paying all their guys. 642 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: And what's what's interesting next year is those young guys 643 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: are gonna eat up minutes, so Draymond's not gonna have 644 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: to play as much, and Clay won't play as much, 645 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: and Steph won't play as much. So you're going to 646 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: get and they're going to be deeper. So you may have, 647 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, you may have a better team, a more 648 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: rested teams cominga starts playing the wing, you can give 649 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: Wiggins and Draymond real spells. Wiseman then comes in and 650 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: plays next year, Cavon Looney doesn't have to play the 651 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: minutes he did. So they've got like three young stars 652 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: that are going to really emerge, I think next year 653 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: and the year after, and Lake will pay whatever it costs. 654 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, as much as people bang on the California economy, 655 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: it's a very unique global economy, and that we're like 656 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: number one in manufacturing and tourism and entertainment and tech, 657 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: and you know, we're going through a recession like everybody else. 658 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: It's going to start for the next however long it goes, 659 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: but it's going to hurt other places a lot more 660 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: than California's enormous economy and rolling economy. It has so 661 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: many sectors. And so Joe Lacom he's not cutting back 662 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: at all, So you can talk about all you want 663 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: about it's unfair what he's paying. They have drafted and 664 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: developed virtually outside of Wiggins, this entire roster, and to me, 665 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: that's what sports should be. Draft them, develop them, keep them, 666 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: Let your fans fall in love with these guys. The 667 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: Warriors honestly, I mean Steph Clay and Drama. They're part 668 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: of the community. They're like they're like mayors. They're like 669 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: these politicians that have like multiple terms. Yeah, you know, 670 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: your point about the salary cap is so interesting to me, 671 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: because how ridiculous is it that if you're scouting department 672 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: does the job right and they continually find high quality 673 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: players in the draft, that the salary cap will crunch 674 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: you out of being able to pay them. If you, 675 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: especially if you're in a small market, you don't have 676 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: the money that a guy like Joe Lacob has just 677 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: a completely brokeniculum. Yeah, percent agree with you. And one 678 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: of the things that's really interesting about what Joe Lacob 679 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: has done, which I think is super important, is him 680 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: continuing to take care of his stars over the years. 681 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: Him maxing Clay Thompson with a torn acl you know, 682 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: him paying Draymond Green what he's paid him the supermax 683 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: for Steph. You know that he's demonstrated loyalty to them 684 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: as well over the years, and that's the kind of 685 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: thing that might convince those guys to take a discount 686 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: down the line when they have to pay Moody and 687 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: Kuminga and Wiseman and Pool and all of all of 688 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: those guys. You know, in terms of the competitive advantage thing, 689 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: I can't help but bring up the Lakers, Colin, because 690 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: I saw Alex Crusoe look like a super functional two 691 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: way player this year and they cut him for nine 692 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. Now with the salary capriti or with the 693 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: luxury attacks we're talking about thirty but there is a 694 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: distinct difference there in the way that the Lakers are 695 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: spending versus Golden State, and the lastly, calling like you 696 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: brought up the viewership for Brooklyn. This has been one 697 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: of my long standing theories. I think the players love 698 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: the idea of player freedom and player movement and player empowerment, 699 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think they realize the collateral damage that 700 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: comes from it because there is an alienated local fan base. 701 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: And I've always wondered if, like you could, if you 702 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: could somehow demonstrate to these guys like, hey, I understand 703 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: in terms of the in terms of the logical progression 704 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: of things, that you should have the same amount of 705 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: freedom that the owners do in a collective bargaining type 706 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: of situation. I get that, But what if I told 707 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: you that you guys having less freedom to move helped 708 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: breed strong local fan bases, which in turn led to 709 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: long term health in viewership around the league, especially in 710 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: a league like the NBA, that although the ratings are 711 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: on their way up, they've of late been disappointing, right, 712 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: And I've always thought that that's a you know, for instance, 713 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: like baseball, with Major League Baseball, they rely heavily on 714 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: their regional support. It's honestly the thing that's keeping the 715 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: League of float at this point, and so I've always 716 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: I've always thought that that's been looked over too frequently 717 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: with the player empowerment, a movement one hundred percent believe 718 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: you in terms of the morality of it all, but 719 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: in terms of the health of the organization, it's actually 720 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: better if guys do what Steph Clay and Draymond do. 721 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: Steff's MVP tonight. Only six players in league history, four rings, 722 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: multiple e MVPs, and a final MVP Staff Lebron, Michael Magic, Kareeman, Duncan, 723 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: good company, all right, Jason temps his name hoops. Tonight. 724 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: You can go to our YouTube page, the Volume Sports 725 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: YouTube page. Please subscribe. Great stuff. Draymond will be on 726 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: it tonight little surprise as well. Jason will hear from him. 727 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: Please follow him Twitter podcast at the Volume. He's fantastic. 728 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to finish this puppy off and go to 729 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: bad FS one. I heart tomorrow. Great stuff, Jason, thanks 730 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: so much, and congratul the Warrior fans who are watching. 731 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: Thank Colin. I'll see you next time man the Volume. 732 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: Make sure to check out the Draymond Green Show. 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