WEBVTT - The Shootaround: New York Liberty and Connecticut Sun

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're revved

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<v Speaker 1>up and ready for the start of the WNBA season.

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<v Speaker 1>We're using one of those like real physical calendars because

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<v Speaker 1>we remember the world before paper and pencils went out

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<v Speaker 1>of style, and we're actually crossing off the days till

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<v Speaker 1>opening night May sixteenth. It's Thursday, May eighth, and today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode is the first of our WNBA season preview shows.

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<v Speaker 1>We're calling this the shoot around, getting you prepped for

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five WNBA season. Whether you're tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>for the very first time this summer or you've been

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<v Speaker 1>rocking W gear since ninety seven, We're going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you everything you need to know about every team before

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five w campaign starts, starting today with

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Liberty and the Connecticut Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get you prepped with the star steaks, stats and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories, a little history, a little lower, a little gossip,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all coming up right after this welcome back slices.

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<v Speaker 1>Here there's which you need to know about the WNBA

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<v Speaker 1>as it enters its twenty ninth season. The WNBA the

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<v Speaker 1>Women's National Basketball Association, the w for short, thirteen teams

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<v Speaker 1>are going to take the court this season thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the addition of the Golden State Valkyries, the first expansion

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<v Speaker 1>franchise since the Atlanta Dream joined the league back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight. Now you're also likely hearing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about the Toronto Tempo. They're another expansion team, but

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<v Speaker 1>they won't be tipping off until twenty twenty six. Same

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<v Speaker 1>for the as yet unnamed Portland franchise, also set to

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<v Speaker 1>tip off next season. This year, each squad will play

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<v Speaker 1>forty four regular season games starting May sixteenth and concluding

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh. That's up from forty regular season games per

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<v Speaker 1>team the last two seasons. At the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, the eight teams with the best records in

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<v Speaker 1>the w earn a spot in the postseason. The first

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<v Speaker 1>playoff round is best of three, semi finals shift to

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<v Speaker 1>a best of five format, and the finals are best

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<v Speaker 1>of seven. If you're an OG fan scratching your head,

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<v Speaker 1>some things have changed, let me explain. So first, going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the first round, Starting this season, the series

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<v Speaker 1>will be a one to one one structure instead of

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<v Speaker 1>two to one, So the new way means the higher

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<v Speaker 1>seed will host Game one the lower seed will host

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<v Speaker 1>Game two, back to the higher seeds home floor for

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<v Speaker 1>Game three if necessary. This ensures that each team gets

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<v Speaker 1>at least one home playoff game. I've been yelling about

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<v Speaker 1>this for years, but a lot more people started yelling

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<v Speaker 1>about it last year when the Indiana Fever didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>a home playoff game.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost in the first two. They were done all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, starting this season, the finals expand from a best

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<v Speaker 1>of five to a best of seven, and that'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a two to two one one one structure, So the

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<v Speaker 1>higher seed hosts games one, two, five, and seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>the opponent hosts games three, four, and six. While the

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<v Speaker 1>W is split into an Eastern and Western conference as

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty sixteen, playoff seeding is based solely on win

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<v Speaker 1>loss record. The top eight teams are seeded by record,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of conference, So when we talk conferences, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>just for organizational purposes and for the Commissioner's Cup. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of the postseason, isn't the only time teams can win hardware,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's an in season tournament to look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>as well, called the Commissioner's Cup. Each season, a select

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<v Speaker 1>number of games count toward the Cup run. This year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's thirty six games running from June first to June seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 1>Conferences don't count when playoff time rolls around, but they

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<v Speaker 1>do apply here. Each team will play one game against

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<v Speaker 1>each of the other teams in its conference, and the

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<v Speaker 1>team from each conference with the best record in those

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<v Speaker 1>games face off for the Commissioner's Cup Championship on July first.

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<v Speaker 1>The team with the better winning percentage in Cup play

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<v Speaker 1>gets to host that game. The two squads are competing

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<v Speaker 1>for a five one hundred thousand dollars prize pool, including

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand in cryptocurrency for each player in the championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's thanks to a one hundred and twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>contribution from the tournament's presenting sponsor, coinbase Now. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota Links won the franchise's first Commissioners Cup and

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<v Speaker 1>star forward Nafisa Collier one Cup MVP, but come playoff time,

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<v Speaker 1>the Links lost the WNBA Finals to the New York Liberty,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Liberties jonqwell Jones winning Finals MVP after leading

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<v Speaker 1>the squad to its first ever title. Regular season MVP

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<v Speaker 1>last season went to the Las Vegas Aces. Asia Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>her third time winning the honor. Other winners were the

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Fever's Caitlin Clark, who nabbed Rookie of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>the aforementioned Nafisa Collier, who earned Defensive Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>and Links coach Cheryl Reeve, who was named Coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else? What else? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>This year's All Star Game is set to take place

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<v Speaker 1>in Indianapolis on July nineteenth at Gainbridge field House, home

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<v Speaker 1>of the Indiana Fever, and it's already sold out, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you already got your tickets. WNBA season tips off

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday, May sixteenth with a trio of games, including

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden State Valkyrie's first ever regular season game, hosting

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<v Speaker 1>same states soon to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Rivaled the Los Angeles Sparks.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots more to come on opening night and the first

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<v Speaker 1>weekend of games, but for now, let's start digging into

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<v Speaker 1>the previews for each of the w's thirteen teams as

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<v Speaker 1>they get ready for tip off. That's right, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>shoot around getting you prep for the twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA season, one team at a time. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the defending champs, the New York Liberty. This squad notched

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<v Speaker 1>a league best thirty two regular season wins in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, and they stayed on top of the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>two defeating the Minnesota Links in the finals to win

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Let's start with your need to know team history.

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<v Speaker 1>Founded in nineteen ninety seven, the Liberty are one of

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<v Speaker 1>the eight original franchises of the WNBA. Past greats include

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa Weatherspoon, Rebecca Lobo, Becky Hammond, Cappie Pondexter, and Tina Charles.

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<v Speaker 1>They've qualified for the postseason in nineteen of their twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight seasons, and after five trips to the finals that

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<v Speaker 1>all ended in losses, they won their first ever WNBA

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<v Speaker 1>title last season. Their twenty twenty five tagline kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the ladies on Real Housewives, It's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>run it Now. Let's talk off season losses and additions

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<v Speaker 1>for the Liberty. Point Guard Courtney Vanderslute, who started all

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one games in which she played last year, said

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye to the Liberty after the championship, leaving in free

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<v Speaker 1>agency to go back to her former team, the Chicago Sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Kayla Thornton also gone. The forward who started eleven games

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<v Speaker 1>last season, was selected by the Valkyries.

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<v Speaker 2>In the expansion draft.

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<v Speaker 1>The team will also likely be without major contributor Benijah

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<v Speaker 1>Laney Hamilton. Liberty GM Jonathan Colbe said recently the team

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<v Speaker 1>will quote more likely than not be suspending Lady Hamilton's

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<v Speaker 1>contract for the twenty twenty five season. She said to

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<v Speaker 1>miss most if not all, of the season after undergoing

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<v Speaker 1>knee surgery in March for a tornmentiscus suffered while she

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<v Speaker 1>was playing and unrivaled. Meantime, the Liberty did add Natasha Cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>who spent eight years with the Mystics and last season

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<v Speaker 1>with the Mercury, and Isabel Harrison, who last played with

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<v Speaker 1>the Sky. Former Liberty player Marine Johannes is also back

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<v Speaker 1>after taking a year off.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty of stars on this squad.

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<v Speaker 1>Two time League MVP, three time Finals MVP and three

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<v Speaker 1>time champion Brianna Stewart leads the way. Twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>League MVP and last year's Finals MVP jon Quell Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and three time All Star Sabrina Yanescu round things out.

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<v Speaker 1>Also keep an eye on twenty twenty one All Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>team member Leoni Phoebich, who came up big in last

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<v Speaker 1>season's finals game. Five and could break into the starting

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<v Speaker 1>lineup and another Game five standout Niara Sabeli, who's entering

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<v Speaker 1>her third season with the team. And of course, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't forget the real MVP, the Liberty's iconic mascot, Ellie

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<v Speaker 1>the Elephant. Head coach Sandy Bardello is also entering her

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<v Speaker 1>fourth season with the team. So what are the stakes

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<v Speaker 1>this season for New York After losing to the Aces

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three and defeating the Links in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Four, the Liberty will look to be the sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Team in WNBA history to make a third straight trip

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<v Speaker 1>to the WNBA Finals, and if they can repeat as champs,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be just the fourth team in league history to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. Also, in addition to last year's title, head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Sandy Brondello let the twenty fourteen Mercury to a championship,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's trying to be the fourth head coach in

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<v Speaker 1>w history to win a third title.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's chalk stats.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, the Liberty led the league in both three

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<v Speaker 1>point makes and three point attempts for the fourth straight season,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're clutched from outside, but they also had the

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<v Speaker 1>league's best field goal percentage in the restricted area, the

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<v Speaker 1>area right beneath the basket, and they finished third best

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<v Speaker 1>in the rest of the paint, where they took the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth most attempts. So basically, the inside outside game is

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<v Speaker 1>key to this team. The Liberty also came up big

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<v Speaker 1>on the boards. They led the league last year in

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<v Speaker 1>total rebounding rate and finished second in defensive rebounding rate.

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<v Speaker 1>As for stories, the biggest story for the Liberty this

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<v Speaker 1>year is, of course, can they repeat. They'll start their

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<v Speaker 1>season with all the excitement of raising a title banner,

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<v Speaker 1>so can they stay hungry enough and not get lazy

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<v Speaker 1>with those big, sparkly championship rings on their fingers. Also

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<v Speaker 1>worth noting they'll probably have to go without some stars

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<v Speaker 1>for a stretch. Germany's Niarasaboli and Leoni Phoebich and France's

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<v Speaker 1>Marin Johannis are all expected to be out for part

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<v Speaker 1>of June to play in this year's euro Basket. Fun

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<v Speaker 1>fact about the Liberty, we got some hoops and gay shit.

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<v Speaker 1>New Liberty acquisitions Natasha Cloud and Isabel Harrison are an item.

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<v Speaker 1>Fellow WNBA player Satu Sabai. Nara's sister accidentally hard launched

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<v Speaker 1>them while doing an in game interview for Unrivaled, revealing

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<v Speaker 1>that Natasha Cloud was missing her girlfriend isbel Harrison's high

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<v Speaker 1>school jersey retirement ceremony for that day's game. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>the leak, there's been some real cute shit on social

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<v Speaker 1>media posted by the couple, and now they're suiting up

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<v Speaker 1>for the same squad. Love all right, I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>But producer Mesh, keep me honest here, what did I miss?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the biggest story you're watching for with the Liberty Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he did a pretty damn good job, if

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<v Speaker 3>I do say so myself. But the one question mark

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<v Speaker 3>I have heading into the season for the Libs. Brianna

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<v Speaker 3>Stewart okay, three time WNBA Champs, six time All Star,

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<v Speaker 3>two time Finals MVP. The resume is long, okay, But

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<v Speaker 3>watching Unrivaled, the league start and founded by she and

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<v Speaker 3>the FISA Collier, it was a little a little rough

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<v Speaker 3>for her in my opinion. She was the league's sixth

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<v Speaker 3>best scorer, which you know, that's not bad, but it

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<v Speaker 3>looked like maybe she was tired or just maybe not

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<v Speaker 3>at full strength during the season. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>there were things she did or frankly didn't do like

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<v Speaker 3>beat fellow husky Elia Edwards in the first game of

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<v Speaker 3>the one on one tournament that she played. Get knocked

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<v Speaker 3>out in the first round was crazy perplexed to me

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, But come to find out after Unrivaled, she

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<v Speaker 3>did have a scope done on her right meniscus, so

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<v Speaker 3>there was something going on. But I'm just curious as

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<v Speaker 3>to what the beginning of the season looks like for her,

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<v Speaker 3>like what type of play?

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<v Speaker 2>Be careful what you mean? I want you to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to know.

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<v Speaker 1>A prominent writer mentioned her age ahead of last season,

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<v Speaker 1>and she proceeded to make very clear that at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years old, just because her resume is long, doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>she's long in the tooth, okay, And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you might be hit to get her being passed her prime.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just saying, look out, So no, oh, that

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<v Speaker 2>has done it before.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not how I feel about her, because I

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<v Speaker 3>had a debate with a friend of mine who did

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<v Speaker 3>say those exact things. I'm saying, she's still got time

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<v Speaker 3>on the clock, and so I think this will be

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<v Speaker 3>a hiccup for her. I think it obviously affects the

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<v Speaker 3>way the rest of the team performs because she's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the heads of that monster, right, But yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's don't give me wrong. It's more about health than

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<v Speaker 2>age for you. Yes, okay, yeah, I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think she's probably benefited from this break, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>playing an entire season all the way through the finals,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the work that went into getting Unrivaled ready

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes and then playing in it. Hopefully this

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<v Speaker 1>little stretch has been beneficial to her any other storylines

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching for other than obviously the hoops engag shit, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, duh hoops and gay shit.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the members that we discussed in the

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<v Speaker 3>Hoops Engagshit Natasha Cloud at point guard, bringing a completely

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<v Speaker 3>different dynamic to that position for New York. She's longer,

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<v Speaker 3>has more height at five to ten, more attack minded offensively,

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<v Speaker 3>and frankly more versatile defensively than Courtney vander.

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<v Speaker 2>Slut was no t no shade to salute.

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<v Speaker 3>I love me some salute, but just also bolsters that

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<v Speaker 3>defense at the guard position, and a league that we

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<v Speaker 3>know is full of long, talented.

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<v Speaker 2>Explosive, big guards.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's gonna be a big change. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm frankly as a dmver not to make it about

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<v Speaker 3>the mystics, something I tend to say every time I

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<v Speaker 3>have to. Like these days, I'm looking for her to

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<v Speaker 3>return to the form she was in in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the highest scoring average she had in her career,

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<v Speaker 3>her last year with DC before she was traded to Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just feel like she was coming into her own.

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<v Speaker 3>Last season was maybe, you know, an outlier, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>crazy bad in terms of stats, but just felt a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit different vibe wise. And I think New York

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<v Speaker 3>is just a great place for her. So I got

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<v Speaker 3>my eyes on Tosh Cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think she's just a fan favorite and

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<v Speaker 1>a show favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>So we want to see her doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't seen her first video meeting Ellie and

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<v Speaker 1>having a little mini dance off with Ellie personality for days,

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<v Speaker 1>so fun to root for.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be watching for that. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now you're basically a liberty expert, So after the break,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to move northeast and prep you for a

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<v Speaker 1>season of Connecticut Sun hoops. Keep it here, Welcome back, slices.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk Connecticut Sun their twenty eight and twelve record

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<v Speaker 1>last season was third best in the league, but this

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<v Speaker 1>year's squad looks nothing like the team that suited up

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty four. Here's your quick Suns need to

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<v Speaker 1>know team history. So this team was established in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine as the Orlando Miracle, part of the WNBA's

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<v Speaker 1>expansion from ten to twelve teams, and they were originally

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<v Speaker 1>affiliated with the mnba's Orlando Magic. Now with the team

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<v Speaker 1>in financial dress, in two thousand and three, the Mohegan

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<v Speaker 1>Indian Tribe bought it, renamed it, and moved it to Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>The team has qualified for the postseason in fifteen of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one seasons, but they've never won it all. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the oldest remain team in the w without a title.

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<v Speaker 1>Some great players in Sun history include Margodideck, Lindsay Whalen,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Douglas, Nakisha Sales, Karl Lawson, and Tina Charles. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Tina Charles was also a great player in New York

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<v Speaker 1>liberty history.

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<v Speaker 2>She bent around the.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five tagline for the Sun proved the doubters wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are there so many doubters? Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Additions and losses for this team. Buckle up because the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun became the first team in WNBA history to dismantle

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<v Speaker 1>their entire starting five after a playoff appearance. During this

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<v Speaker 1>pass offseason, six time All Star Dewana Bonner left in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency to sign with the Indiana Fever. The Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>Mercury acquired five time All Star Alissa Thomas an assignment trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Three time All Star Breanna Jones left in free agency

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<v Speaker 1>to sign with the Atlanta Dream, and twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA Most Improved Player and All Defensive First Team selection

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<v Speaker 1>djon A Carrington was traded to the Dallas Wings. The

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<v Speaker 1>team also lost their head coach, Stephanie White, who was

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty three WNBA Coach of the Year. She

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Indiana Fever. They hired coach Rashid Mezzain

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<v Speaker 1>in December. He previously coached the Belgian national team and

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<v Speaker 1>several pro teams in France. That's a lot of losses.

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<v Speaker 1>As for additions, the team is welcoming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess who.

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<v Speaker 1>Tina Charles, the eight time All Star and former League

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<v Speaker 1>MVP back in her first run with the Sun, is back.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles is the WNBA's all time leader in rebounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's second all time in points, behind only recently retired

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<v Speaker 1>Dinah Trossi. Charles spent her first four seasons of the

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<v Speaker 1>W in Connecticut, and she returns now as a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>year vet. The Son also added Diamond Deshields and Lindsay Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>and they drafted LSU double double queen Anissa Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>guard Sanaia Rivers, who won a title with South Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>before transferring to NC State, where she helped the Wolfpack

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<v Speaker 1>to the Final four in the twenty twenty three twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four season. Did you keep up with all that?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't blame you if you did. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>this team looks nothing like it did last year, So

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<v Speaker 1>the stars mostly left. I mean, Tina Charles always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a name. Despite having her lowest scoring seasons

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years she's played, she was still averaging

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<v Speaker 1>nearly fifteen points a game last season for the Atlanta Dream.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tina Charles always to be Tina Charles. She's getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little older. Marina Maybray was traded to the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>mid season last year, but after the team cleaned house,

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<v Speaker 1>she requested to be traded away again.

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<v Speaker 2>She was denied, so.

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<v Speaker 1>She might not be happy in Connecticut, but she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big part of their success or failure.

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<v Speaker 1>All the same, the stakes for this team relatively low.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got really low expectations, but their history would demand

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<v Speaker 1>a lot from them.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sun have won at least twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Games for four straight seasons, and they've made six straight

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<v Speaker 1>appearances and at least the semi finals. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>expectations will need to be reset for this rebuilding season.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting a look at young players and figuring out who

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<v Speaker 1>they could build around is probably going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest focus of this year. Not a lot of last

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<v Speaker 1>year's Sun's stats are going to be meaningful this year

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<v Speaker 1>because you got a whole new roster of players, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is worth pointing out the stat line of one

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<v Speaker 1>of their newbies. I mentioned draft pick Anissa Moro. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she finished her college career with one hundred and four

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<v Speaker 1>double doubles. That's second all time in D one history,

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<v Speaker 1>and her seventeen hundred and fourteen career rebounds are third

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<v Speaker 1>all time. So if she can translate that game to

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<v Speaker 1>the pros, she could be a big piece for this

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding team. Stories how about some Suns stories and lore,

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<v Speaker 1>like the one about the kid's birthday party. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun's roster exodus and their struggle to draw free

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<v Speaker 1>agents is in part due to their small market, but

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<v Speaker 1>also their outdated facilities.

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<v Speaker 2>While the rest of the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Is having facility wars putting millions and millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>into amazing new spaces right now, the Sun split their

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<v Speaker 1>practice time between their arena and the Mohegan Tribe Community Center,

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<v Speaker 1>where they sometimes have to share gym space with a

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<v Speaker 1>workout class where folks playing pickup, and at least once

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<v Speaker 1>with a birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>In a particularly memorable incident, the team was prepping for

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs right next to a two year old's birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>Now listen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is important because after a sold out game at

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<v Speaker 1>ted Garden in Boston last season, fans started asking if

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<v Speaker 1>the team might move to Boston. They were relieved to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that the Sun are committed to Uncasville, Connecticut and

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<v Speaker 1>committed to the Mohegan Tribe. But it is well past

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<v Speaker 1>time for the Sun to step into the modern WNBA,

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<v Speaker 1>or their championship drought will no doubt continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun fact, by.

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<v Speaker 1>The way, the Connecticut Sun Arena that I mentioned, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Mohegan Sun Arena and it's inside the Mohegan Sun Resort

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<v Speaker 1>in casino.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing games at a casino is wild to me. You

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<v Speaker 2>just like finish hooping and then put it all on black, your.

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<v Speaker 1>Jump shots dropping all games, so you go see if

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<v Speaker 1>your luck continues at the craps table. I'm just picturing

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<v Speaker 1>like showering after a game, thrown on some warm ups,

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<v Speaker 1>and just walking through a bunch of people letting it

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<v Speaker 1>all ride on twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the Sun? Meish? What did I have forget about

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<v Speaker 2>the Sun? What's the biggest storyline for you? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you watching for?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, I have to say it is remote,

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<v Speaker 3>the Mohigan Sun Arena and resort and casino. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>there myself. It's a good time as a spectator, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's very remote, very very remote. So that part

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<v Speaker 3>very much rings true, and it's part of what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>keeping an eye on. This season for me in Connecticut

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<v Speaker 3>has nothing to do with the X's and o's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Rebuilding is rebuilding is rebuilding. It's gonna be tough. They're

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<v Speaker 3>on their third different head coach and four seasons for

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<v Speaker 3>this franchise. It just feels like they're kind of grasping

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<v Speaker 3>at straws right now. But that's, like I said, to

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<v Speaker 3>be expected. But it's it's the extreme to which they've

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<v Speaker 3>taken it that stresses me out. You mentioned it the

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<v Speaker 3>first team in WNBA history to dismantle their entire starting five,

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<v Speaker 3>So you said, I don't even need ingredients. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna I'm just gonna vibe like that to me is terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not envy their new head coach. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>also a change, right, He's probably got an entire different systems.

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<v Speaker 3>Stephanie White well respected in the WNBA already, not to

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<v Speaker 3>say that you know Rashid isn't because he's done his

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<v Speaker 3>own thing. But steph White, you know, players know her,

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<v Speaker 3>and players are used to what she wants to do

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<v Speaker 3>and have a better expectation for what she comes with.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's an adjustment. But I do think there are

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<v Speaker 3>some bright spots here. You mentioned Anissa Morrow, and you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned Sanaia Rivers, two rookies, two draft picks that I

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<v Speaker 3>think have unbelievable upside in the WNBA, and on this

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<v Speaker 3>roster specifically that lacks some proven veteran leadership outside of

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<v Speaker 3>Tina Charles, outside of Marina Maybury, outside of Lindsay Allen.

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<v Speaker 3>This could be an awesome opportunity for both of them

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<v Speaker 3>to make names for themselves, improved why they belong in

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<v Speaker 3>the w and whether or not they stay with the son.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But that foundation that you set your rookie year, the

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<v Speaker 3>things you learn, the things you overcome, can be really

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<v Speaker 3>really important and vital to the rest of your career.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, it's not even x's and o's, it's

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna happen off the court with this franchise, and

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<v Speaker 3>then keep my eyes on those two rookies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think off the court. For me, what stands

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<v Speaker 1>out is that history. I mentioned. They don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>titles and the banners, but they are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most successful teams in this league and have been for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time. And it is going to be slip

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<v Speaker 1>sliding away if they don't fix the facilities issue and

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<v Speaker 1>the investment side, because they are not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep up and draw players.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's going to want to play for them if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't. All right, you're caught up on the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to take another break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>why do you slices out of question? So we've got

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<v Speaker 2>an answer. Welcome back, slices.

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<v Speaker 1>We asked you to tell us what WNBA related questions

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<v Speaker 1>you have prior to the start of the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course you all delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's take a sec to talk through one slice.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylee Beard emailed us asking, can you explain the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between a flagrant fowl and a technical foul in the WNBA?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Kaylee, when we crack open the WNBA's official rulebook

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty five, we'll link to it in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes because it's a little hard to find. The

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<v Speaker 1>league puts flagrant fouls into two tiers, flagrant one or

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<v Speaker 1>a flagrant two. So flagrant one is any contact committed

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<v Speaker 1>against a player with or without the ball that referees

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<v Speaker 1>interpret to be unnecessary and in that case, personal foul

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<v Speaker 1>charged to the offender and a team foul charged as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Player who took the contact shoots two free throws their

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<v Speaker 1>team gets to inbound the ball. If you commit two

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<v Speaker 1>flagrant ones in a game, you get ejected. Flagrant two

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<v Speaker 1>is a little more serious. These are called if refs

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<v Speaker 1>think contact against a player with or without the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is unnecessary and excessive. Just like a flagrant one, the

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<v Speaker 1>player who fouled earns a personal foul for themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>a team foul for their squad, and the player who

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<v Speaker 1>got fouled shoots two free throws and their team gets

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. The difference here is that a player who

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<v Speaker 1>commits a flagrant two is also ejected from the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of this higher penalty, refs have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the monitor to review cases where a flagrant two

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<v Speaker 1>might be called. So both of those, basically, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just foul some you fouled someone unnecessarily, or you fouled

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<v Speaker 1>them unknown necessarily and excessively, and you're out.

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<v Speaker 2>How do these differ from technical fouls?

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<v Speaker 1>Techs are basically, in a nutshell, more about procedure and behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>So coaches, teams, and individual players can be given tees

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<v Speaker 1>for a range of things, including putting the wrong number

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<v Speaker 1>of players on the court, taking more timeouts than they're

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<v Speaker 1>allowed with sub Chris Weber, delaying the game, or something

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<v Speaker 1>like hanging on the rim. But what I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting at is this kind of tech players can get

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<v Speaker 1>texts without any prior warning from refs when their conduct

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<v Speaker 1>on the court or on the bench is deemed detrimental

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<v Speaker 1>to the game, and if the conduct is poor enough

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<v Speaker 1>according to the refs. Individuals can be ejected after a

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<v Speaker 1>single technical, but if you get two in a contest,

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<v Speaker 1>you're automatically out of there. Conduct that falls under the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of a technical foul includes things typically considered unsportsmanlike,

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<v Speaker 1>like talking to a ref, disrespectfully, giving a ref physical contact,

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<v Speaker 1>taking overt actions in protest of a call, using profanity,

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<v Speaker 1>throwing elbows deliberately, or taunting. See Diana Tarassi's entire catalog.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more to all this, but we recommend taking to

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<v Speaker 1>spin through the rule book if you've still got questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that helps. Thanks for hitting us up, Kaylee.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy watch Jonquell Jones singing like sing Singing, rating

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen out of ten. Voice of an Angel review. I

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<v Speaker 1>so you just got to listen for yourself. Here's some

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<v Speaker 1>audio from the New York Liberties instagram page where they

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<v Speaker 1>asked players to share a song that they love that

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<v Speaker 1>folks might not expect, and Johnqwell Jones didn't just say

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<v Speaker 1>on my Mind by Georgia Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>She sang it fine, found the Father, So y'all check

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<v Speaker 2>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, it is not fair to be

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<v Speaker 1>that talented and that good at basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of can we get a JJ R and B

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<v Speaker 2>album maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>After she retires. Now it's your turn, rate and review.

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