1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Chetty Armstrong and 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Jettie I know he Armstrong and Yetty. President Trump attended 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: last night's game, making the first sitting president to attend 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Trump got cheered, Taylor Swift, got booed. 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: And the Chiefs stunk. It was like the Super Bowl 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: was played on Earth too? Right? Are we the upside down? 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: What the heck is going on? That's a decent point. 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Trump left before the third quarter, while the Chiefs. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Left halfway through the first That's right. Oh said it. 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: That's pretty good Trump. That's right. I said it. 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Trump cheered, Taylor Swift booed maybe for the first time 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: in her life, and the Chiefs just demolished. All three 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: of those are sick. Somewhat surprising here you go, never 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: in the game? 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: Ugh uh? What do we got coming up? Before I 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: get to my stuff? 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Campus madness update plus ongoing coverage of the shocking Nancy 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: Mace rape, voyeurism, sexual exploitation, and trafficking accusations made on 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: the floor of the House last night. More details are 22 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: coming out. This is It's crazy. There's no doubt. 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Just what brand of crazy and who's bringing the crazy 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: is not yet clear. 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: So mentioned a record viewership for the Super Bowl one 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six million people. Fox has watched across 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: all their platforms, which you have to count because like 28 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: I watched at least half the game on my phone 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: while I was at the gym, and stuff on the 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: on the app, so that should count, even though it wasn't, 31 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: you know, home on the cable or whatever. 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: The hell. 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: That's a lot of people, though, one hundred and twenty 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: six million people, that's that's a stunning audience. When it's 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: great to at least have a tiny, little temporary return 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: to the three channel. Everybody can talk about something world right, 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: When the number one show in America can get nine 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 2: million people sometimes one hundred and twenty six is quite 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: amazing that we all we also do. 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: That and CNN gets three hundred and forty people. 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: Here is a woman blaming Trump for the Chiefs losing 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I haven't heard this. 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: That's the other. 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: Reason why we didn't win, because the Trump was at 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: the I said, gay Trumps are. 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Not good at our game. 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Now there are a lot of people that do things 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: online for attention and it's fake. She sounds like because 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: every year after a Super Bowl you see the legitimately 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: losing their mind, upset people because. 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Of their team loss. She sounds legitimately crazy. 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 5: Wasted, sitting in a chair crying a legitimately No, she 54 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 5: was legitimately sitting in a chair wasted, crying into a washcloth. 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: I like those videos. Yeah, every year you get and 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: it's funny. They're always drunk. 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Always. 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, if if she has a husband 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: or a boyfriend, sir, run for your life. 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: Just run. 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: I don't care what she looks like, her how well 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: she can cook, Just trust me on what you know? 65 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: Cook if she was hammered drunk, all right, I kind 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: of want to know, well. 67 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: She can cook, because that's what keep you around. There's 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: all kinds of other problems. She's a bad mom. Uh, 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: we never have sex, but man, can she make biscuits? 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: And great? 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: I don't give her a who that friend was that 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: took that video and put it online because they're that 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 5: friendship's over. 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's a decent point there. Does that to me? 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to make their life miserable until what they 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: I die. 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Well, I never thought about that. 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: I thank god escaped the everybody's got a video recorder 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: era of my life when I was drinking. But yeah, 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: if I'm drunk and saying stupid things and you record 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: me and post. 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: It all, that is not good. Are they any laws 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: about that? 84 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: Hmm? 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: Interesting question. 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: That's interesting expectation of privacy in a public place, right, 87 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: you could prove that it was done intentionally with malice. 88 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: But how is it different than like in the old 89 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: days in radio? And this was a glorious time. Gladys 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: play the hard These were the good times. 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: Good time. 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: The thing was tube amplification. Good times to be a 93 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: radio host. Not a good time to be anybody out 94 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: there in the world. But back in the day in radio, 95 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: you could just call somebody up and have them on 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: the air immediately and pretty much say or do anything 97 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: and air them. And it was oftentimes incredibly unfair and 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: very incredibly funny. Entertaining yes, And then you have a 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: laws where you have to have one person's consent to 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: do that, And then you have states where there are 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: laws where you have both people consent to that. I 102 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: mean the ones the person consent is ridiculous. So Joe 103 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: and I have consented, We're okay with calling this woman 104 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: at home pretending we're the fire department and saying her 105 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: dog was run over. 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: Let's call her. 107 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: And that's good enough because Joe and I consent, but 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: consent on both ends. Took all the fun out of 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: these kinds of things on the radio. 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: But how is that not. 111 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: Applied to I video it and then put it out 112 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: in the public sphere? 113 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: Is it because YouTube is not? 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: Is it that old thing with YouTube's not actually a 115 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: newspaper or a television station or whatever. 116 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, is there are any attorneys listening hit 117 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: us with an email mail bag at armstrong in geeddy 118 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: dot com. 119 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: What are the. 120 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: Legalities the emerging legal realities? But they might have an 121 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: era mail bag at armstrong in getty dot com. 122 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: They might have to fix that because I'm not sure 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: I see a giant difference for the victim there. Wow, 124 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: you get hammered drunk and you're stumbling around saying crazys 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: and your buddy videotapes he puts it on his Twitter 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: account and now you're being mocked by everyone. 127 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: Bringing you shame and humiliation. Yeah, yeah, I don't know 128 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: what the law is currently on that. 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: I have to work that out over time. 130 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Here's one of my favorite things that happens about once 131 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: a week in the New York Times, parenting in a 132 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: burning world. 133 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: This is from a climate editor. Boy, she and I 134 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: would have a lot to talk about, wouldn't we mean it? 135 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: At time together? Right? They have fun? Apparently that's the news. 136 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Number One. 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Writers have spilled a lot of ink on the question 138 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: of whether it's ethical, desirable, or financially advisable to have 139 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: children in an era of accelerating environmental crisis. 140 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: Writers are a self involved ninny and sorrier writers. 141 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Writers have spilled a lot of ink on that, and 142 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: most of us have not read any of that stuff, like, well, 143 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: I'll get to my ultimate point after this paragraph, because 144 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: it's always the same to me. Indeed, it's on many Americans' minds. 145 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: A twenty twenty four Pew survey found that more than 146 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: a quarter of US adults age eighteen to forty nine 147 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: who don't plan on having children cited concerns about the environment, 148 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: including climate change, as the major factor. Yet we rarely 149 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: talk about how people have already chosen to become parents. 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Can cope with their own anxiety and fears as their 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: children contend with an increasingly unstable climate. I gotta tell you, 152 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: I have, like most parents, a gazillion things I worry about. 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: All day, every day about my kids that ain't on 154 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: the list. Right right. This reminds me what's the technique 155 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: called again where you. 156 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: As like James Comy, you leak something to the press 157 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: and you have the press call you and then they 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: can quote you as commenting on the leak. 159 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: That you leaked. I can't remember what that's. 160 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: Called, the log rolling or the old dipsy doodle or whatever. 161 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: I can't remember. If somebody remembers, tell me, but. 162 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: This seems like kind of a version of them, where 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: you terrify children, poor little innocent children in schools that 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: they're going to burn to death, and puppies are going 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: to burn to death, and everyone will die, including your 166 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: mommy and daddy, because of climate change. 167 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: And then when they grow up and say I'm not 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: sure I can have a kid because it's so dangerous. 169 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: You say, look, people aren't willing to have kids because 170 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm so dangerous. That is one hundred percent true and 171 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: should be commented on regularly. I mean, when you talk 172 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: about adults eighteen to forty nine, a quarter of them 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: don't plan on having kids. How many of us weren't 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 2: planning on having kids when we were twenty two, but 175 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: then we changed. 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Our mind when we got older. 177 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: I mean lots of us, So that younger end of that, 178 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: a lot of them aren't going to have kids anyway, 179 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: aren't planning to have kids. 180 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: Now. 181 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: People are having less kids. There's no doubt about that. 182 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to bring up. I heard something 183 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: about China today. They're really struggling in China with marriages. 184 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: They can't get people to get married. And then they 185 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: went through this reasons. 186 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: It might be. 187 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: While people of blah blah bah. There's something happening, and 188 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: I don't know why. People just aren't willing to understand this. 189 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: There's something happening in modern society with comfort and luxury 190 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: or attention span or something where we're just not interested 191 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: in coupling and having children. Why they have to assign 192 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: a reason to it. It's climate change, it's the rent's 193 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: too high, it's the Trump is in office. 194 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: It's no, it's not there's something going on. As a 195 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: beast that's taken away. 196 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: There's no stronger desire on planet Earth than to couple 197 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: and have kids. That has gone away for some reason. 198 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: And it ain't because of the rent, right, I would 199 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: agree completely. And the fact that it's happening in communist China, yeah, 200 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: and capitalists South. 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Korea and Denmark and Italy and the United States and 202 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: rural America and cities, yeah, right exactly. 203 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: And the other thing that bothers the hell out of 204 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: me about that conversation is I find it so pathetically 205 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: and it's a perfect, you know, the manifestation of victimhood culture, 206 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: where you've got to be a victim of something to get. 207 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Attention and feel important. But for the lady for the 208 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: New York. 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: Times to say, these times they are so dangerous and volatile, 210 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: we can't have children, Not during World War one or two, 211 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: or the Middle Ages or the smallpox outbreak or you 212 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: know whatever, the Cold War or the race riots. 213 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: And assassinations in nineteen sixty eight. No, these are the 214 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: times that are really scary. 215 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 3: Oh, man up, including the women, She s Louise quit 216 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: celebrating weakness. 217 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: What do you get when you do that? I'll give 218 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: you a minute. 219 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: What kind of society do you get tictok a week 220 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: one right, you nailed it, ge money, and a new 221 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: guest essay, the Oregon writer Emma Pate explains how she 222 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: had made peace with the dire facts of climate change, 223 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: including Wait. 224 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: A minute, Wait a minute, an Oregon writer named Pate? 225 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Is this parody? I wrote? I know? Is this Fred Ormison? Uh? 226 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: She's made peace with the dire facts of climate change, 227 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: including the reality that her children will be increasingly affected 228 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: by warming and pollution or climate related disasters in the 229 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: years to come. I know my children are likely to 230 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: die in the endless hurricanes. But I had children anyway. 231 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: How brave of you whether it's ethical to have kids. 232 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Screw you and you determining whether it's ethical for me 233 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: to have kids. 234 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Man, these people are insufferable. They really are. I know it. 235 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. 236 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: You know what, if you had children, you'd be too 237 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: busy to write this stuff. You wouldn't have time, right right, 238 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: we got and you wouldn't be worried about fanciful half 239 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: a degree elevations in forty seven years. 240 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: Please, we got a lot more in the way. Stay here. 241 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: What really doomed Joe Biden's presidency? Well, actuary tables. 242 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: But what doomed in politically early on was the pull 243 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: out of Afghanistan, which was a disaster. Everybody watched on 244 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: TV as his poll numbers plummeted. He never recovered and 245 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: CBS News checking in on Afghanistan. What life is like 246 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: under the Taliban. Here's the reporter interviewing a Taliban leader. 247 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: The president has demanded that Thaliban give back the hardware value. 248 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: That's seven billion dollars hardware put on parade last year 249 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: at an abandoned US air base. 250 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: Abdul Kahar Balki. 251 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Is the Taliban spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. 252 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: Is it entirely out of the question that the Thaliban 253 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: would ever return this military hardware? 254 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Is it absolutely off the table? 255 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 6: These are the assets off the state of Avanistan and 256 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 6: they will continue to be in the position off to 257 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 6: stay toughle funds. 258 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: It seems like there's no deal then with the president. 259 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 6: People don't make deals on the assets of these states. 260 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 6: They make agreements through doalg and engagement to find spaces 261 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 6: and areas of common interests. 262 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: Fresh and translate that. 263 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, First of all, the Taliban leader speaks better 264 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: English than me. 265 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Where do you go to school, not public school. 266 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: Apparently, I guess he's I would guess he's British educated, 267 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: judging by his accent. First, I was thinking, why are 268 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: you asking this question? There's no way he's gonna say, oh, yeah, 269 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: sure you want to back, We'll give him back. But 270 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: I guess because President Trump has demanded him back, and 271 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: so that's a reason to ask the Taliban leader, is 272 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: there any any circumstance where are gonna give them back? 273 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: In the Taliband's gonna say no. Of course they're going 274 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: to say no, you want them, come and get him. 275 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: It'd take a lot of troops in many, many years. 276 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: I think you tried that once before. But if you 277 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: want to go ahead, I think it's much more likely 278 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: again they're going to say, make us an offer. 279 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Let's talk. 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: We got your stuff, you want it back? We need money. Yeah, 281 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: they don't need some of this stuff. I mean, they 282 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 2: probably want to keep a lot of the guns and everything, 283 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: but they don't need tanks and humbes necessarily to keep 284 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: the population under control. They'd probably be happier in heck 285 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: to sell those for a lot of money. 286 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: Wows Uncle Joe, wowow Wow. So I'm on this just 287 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: popped into my head. 288 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: So I'm exchanging gratitude lists with this guy. 289 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 7: I know. 290 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: We decided the other day we're going to get on 291 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: this habit. We're going to be grateful for his stuff, 292 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: and he's. 293 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: No, no, just uh. 294 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to text him every morning and and I 295 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: forgot today, so I got to do it during the 296 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: commercial break. I'll text him every morning three things I'm 297 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: grateful for, and he's going to text me three things 298 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: he's grateful for. 299 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: I brought up the whole idea of. 300 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: No wine February, the no whining during February, you know, 301 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: on the kind of the flip side of whining. And 302 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: one way to get out of whining is to be 303 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: grateful for the good things. One thing a person I 304 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: put on my list today, be grateful you're born in 305 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: the freaking United States. If you're born in Afghanistan, you're 306 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: going to have an awful, miserable, possibly very short life. Yeah, 307 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: no matter what your attitude. 308 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: Is, unless you're an active participant in evil, that would help. 309 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: It would give you a better chance of survival probably, 310 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, and that you know you can have all 311 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: the strength of character you want, you're gonna have a miserable, short, 312 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: painful life if you were born lots of places in 313 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: the world other than the United States. Doesn't happened in 314 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: the United States. Isn't the only place you can avoid 315 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: that to a fate. I mean, I think if you're borning, 316 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, some rural village of France, you probably have 317 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: a decent life. But there are a lot of places 318 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: where you you got no shot and it's just luck. 319 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's wrong. This is the worst most 320 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: racist country on earth. What else should I put on 321 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: my gratitude list? 322 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,239 Speaker 2: Mcflurri's grateful for Oreo, mcfluury's that come in two sides. 323 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 324 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: Wow Wow coming up a campus madness update, k through 325 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: grad school madness, good news and bad news. 326 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: Tell you was as long as we have a minute, 327 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: the next doge like effort and I don't know if 328 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: it could be cat or something like that, muskrat spell 329 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: out all the letters involved in seriously calling out the 330 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: bull crap of the American education system from top to 331 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: bottom and making it a national beyond a moonshot priority 332 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: like more like, you know, curing smallpox or getting electricity 333 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: to all fifty states style effort to get rid of 334 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: what's wrong with the American education system and straighten it out. Honestly, 335 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: that might be the single most important thing we could 336 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: conceivably do, right up there with dealing with overspending in 337 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: the national debt. 338 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if we might not be better off 339 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: if we only focused on the education, the schools and 340 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: like put all the effort into that. Yeah, be more 341 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: likely to be successful because there's plenty there, Armstrong and getty. 342 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: So Democrats have been playing hopscotch while Republicans are playing 343 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: grand theft dollar four and we're finally starting to realize, 344 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: let's put the chalk down and let's actually focus on 345 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: what are those lanes where we can pursue, like the 346 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 4: legal cases, like legislatively, really the budget that's really really 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: place where they do have power. 348 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: That's particularly talking about the whole doge thing. But we've 349 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: been mentioning this column by Rich Lowry of National Review, 350 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: where he says, this is the biggest win in the 351 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: last three weeks for the right in the culture war 352 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: in half a century. And I'm so used to losing 353 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: every cultural war thing. The idea that we're winning now 354 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: is a bunch of issues is just I don't even 355 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: know how to I don't even know how. 356 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: To feel right. It is so odd, but it's it's great. 357 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: Excuse me, and I think the voices of sanity need to, 358 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: you know, make as much progress as quickly as possible. 359 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: I suspect, you know, barring well, you know that's crazy 360 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: to try. 361 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: To predict anything. Trump will have four years. 362 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: I'm certainly hoping his successor at least wires at least 363 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: oh boy, the constitutional corsis will have at least four 364 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: years to continue the progress that's being made. But we 365 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: absolutely need a moonshot style effort to reform education in 366 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: this country because it is absolutely killing us. Michael, It's 367 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: a campus Madness Update, good and bad news edition, good 368 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: and bad. 369 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: News, madness screaming, how's madness? 370 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: You idiot on the campus? God, how's quite scream Yeah? 371 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: No kiddingel So, disembalment figures into the story somehow, so 372 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: well metaphorically speaking. 373 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: So we'll start with some good news, really interesting piece 374 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: about Tufts University, which is to the left of Trotsky 375 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: Boston area. But there's a professor by the name of 376 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: Hirsch there who teaches a class on American conservatism that 377 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: is always one hundred percent enrolled and extremely popular, and 378 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: he a man of the sane center left, has them 379 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: read Frederick Hayek's Road to Serve Them at Ininran's The 380 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: Nature of Government, and then has lefty writers assigned as well. 381 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: That says, all right, let's talk about this issue. 382 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: And it is a classic American education where you have 383 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: to understand both sides before you say which one you're on. 384 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: And he is systematically steel manning conservative arguments for the 385 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: college kids. And the really encouraging part about this is 386 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: the kids love it. 387 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: That's interesting. 388 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: And poll after poll has shown that a lot of 389 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: college kids resent the cancel culture and the bully culture 390 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: and the radical culture. But they just they're afraid or 391 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: you know, intimidated into silence. And there's a lot more 392 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: curiosity out there than I think you would think from 393 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: looking at college camp. 394 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: God, are we. 395 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: Actually coming out of peak that? And we'll never have 396 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: to deal with it again, at least in our lifetimes. 397 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: I mean, did we just live through the pendulum swinging 398 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: to the far end of that nuttiness? 399 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: I share hope. So I don't know, I don't know. 400 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: I'm a little afraid of it being like a sports 401 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: team that you know has a very bad beginning of 402 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: the season, then they win six in a row and 403 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: you think all right, and then that is just a 404 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: blip and they go back to being bad. I think 405 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: there's so much of a fight to go on, but 406 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: let me plunge on here. We can talk about this 407 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: at length. A great piece in the Free Press about 408 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: how all over the country, including in some surprising places, 409 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: educators are covering up for their own failures wholesale. We 410 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: should have the best education system in the world, they write, 411 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: we should have an education system that reflects us being 412 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: a superpower. But there's no one with a straight face 413 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: who can say that the United States has a world 414 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: class education system. And that's from a higher up in 415 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: the New Jersey Department of Education, now retired. But they 416 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: go through place after place where because they are failing 417 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: to meet any standard, they are systematically changing the standards, 418 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: including this shock to me. In twenty twenty four, Oklahoma 419 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: schools seemed to perform a miracle. They went from twenty 420 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: four percent proficiency in reading to forty seven percent in 421 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: two years. You almost number doubling the previous figure. You 422 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: see that number in a year. You know, something funky happen. 423 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 424 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: Indeed, if it sounds too good to be true, that's 425 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: because it was. In last year, Oklahoma lowered its cut scores, 426 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: the score a student needs to hit on test to 427 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: be considered proficient. 428 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. That's good Hearts law. Oh yeah. 429 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Once, once a measure becomes a goal, it ceases to 430 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 2: be a good measure. 431 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Yep. Trend is also happening in New York State. 432 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: After not a single eighth grader in the upstate city 433 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: of Schenectady tested proficient in math in twenty twenty two, 434 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: state officials lowered the scores the following year. Wisconsin lowered 435 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: cut scores last year. Illinois is about to lower its scores, 436 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. We did in tell a lot 437 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 3: of blue states, but Oklahoma shocked me. 438 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: We've done it in California a couple of times. Well, 439 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: it speaks as much to the nature of bureaucracy as liberalism. 440 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Well it's a good Heart's law. I mean that seems 441 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: to be a law. No matter what you no matter 442 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: your politics, you come up with a goal, or you 443 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: measure something, then you come up with a goal and 444 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: then you just fudge to meet the goal, and so 445 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: the measure doesn't work anymore. 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: And that's it happens, over and over again. 447 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: I can come up with one hundred examples up the 448 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: top my head, because I think it's a fascinating aspect 449 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 2: of the way the human brain works. But how are 450 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: there not People raise their hands, say, we can't be 451 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: lowering the standards. 452 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: We need to raise the quality field tradition. 453 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, lift up the children, don't drop the standards. 454 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: That'd be a good slogan. 455 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: Veering back to good news, The Department of Education on Friday, 456 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 3: Cancer which still exists, apparently canceled fifteen million dollars in 457 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: federal grants that were used to fund diversity programs at 458 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: three universities in California, State, La, Virginia Commonwealth, and University 459 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: of Saint Thomas and Minnesota. All had received giant, multimillion 460 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: dollar grants, part of a billion dollars a billion that 461 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: the Biden Education Department spent on diversity programs in America's schools, 462 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: nearly half of which went to grants for race based hiring. 463 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: That is, at least temporarily on the way out. Now 464 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: back to bad news. Two stories here that are adjoined 465 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: at the hip Brown University Medical School that's one of 466 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 3: your elite ivy leaguers. 467 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: By the way, elite. I almost vomit when I say 468 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: that about these universities. 469 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: But they now give diversity, equity and inclusion more weight 470 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: than excellent clinical skills in its promotion criteria for faculty, 471 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: raising questions duh about the equality of teaching and patient 472 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: care at the elite medical school and underscoring how deeply 473 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: deis penetrated medical education. Again, when they decide what faculty 474 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: to promote, they now give DEI more weight than excellent 475 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: clinical skills. 476 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: I saw that over the week in Medicine. I meant 477 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: to mention now on the air, that is absolutely amazing. 478 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: I was looking at the actual paperwork, the criteria, and 479 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: really your plan for how you're answering the question of 480 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: how you're going to get diversity, equity inclusion into your 481 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: your medical practice is more important than your actual SI right, 482 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: that is how or as important? 483 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: How is that even possible? 484 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 3: You could take a talk show host's opinion on this, 485 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: or you could listen to Bob Cerencioni, an orthopedic surgeon Maryland, 486 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: This is as stark as it gets the criteria. Say 487 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 3: what DEI medical schools is all about, and it's not 488 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: about clinical performance. Hector Choppaw, clinical professor at Texas A 489 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: and M, said it was difficult to comprehend why clinical 490 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: skills get less weight than DEI quote. 491 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: That is heartbreaking. 492 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: Clinical skills are of paramount importance and should be considered 493 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: major criteria for any promotion. 494 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: The quotes from saying people go on and on, but 495 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: we'll keep moving. 496 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: University of California Schools oops illegally used racial preferences and 497 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: admissions lawsuit alleges. 498 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Of course, California. 499 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: By gonna Trump prove California we already in deficit, but 500 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna spend fifty million dollars to do it. 501 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: They are illegally still recruiting based on race and with 502 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: a paper thin, a tissue thin cover up of what 503 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: they're doing all across the UC system. 504 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: That fifty million dollar Trump proofing California legislation. By the way, 505 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: past Friday afternoon late I noticed when I got the 506 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: ding on my phone it was like five thirty California 507 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: time when they announced the passing of that. 508 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: I think that was an accident. He laughed, I laughed, And. 509 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: If that got you riled up, this is going to 510 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: make you completely insane. You may remember that last year 511 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: San Diego school officials got sued for punishing a student 512 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: for supposedly wearing blackface at a football game when it 513 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: was really just team color face paint. Well, now a 514 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: worse and more horrifying battle is unfolding within the Capistrano 515 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: Unified School District in Orange County, where an elementary school 516 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: student was punished and deemed racist for making a drawing 517 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: that say it said black lives matter, with the offending 518 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: phrase all lives matter under it. The girl, through her mother, 519 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: is suing the school district. Listen to this, and we 520 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 3: could get into the legalities of this, but I think 521 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: their self evident. The fractice began when the girl who's 522 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: just identified as BB heard a lesson on Martin Luther 523 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: King that also touched on the Black Lives Matter movement. 524 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: This is in twenty twenty one. 525 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: BB's teacher read her and other students in the class 526 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: of a book about Martin Luther King and also discuss 527 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: discussed the Black Lives Matter movement. Students were probably already 528 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: familiar with it is. The school had a picture displayed 529 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: that included the phrase black lives matter, along with a 530 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: clenched fist that young BB saw every day. And this 531 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: girl is where does it say that? The whole clunch 532 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: six years old? 533 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Six? Wow? 534 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the clenched fist accompanying that sign off awesome. 535 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: What are you trying to say there? 536 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: So BB became concerned for classmate of color, while b 537 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: B did not understand what phrase meant. The book had 538 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: the effect of making BB feel bad for a classmate 539 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: of color, who then drew a picture for her little 540 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: friend to help her feel Included. BB's picture contained the 541 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: frame black lives matter, drawn in black marker. Below that 542 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: was the phrase any life, written in light colored marker. 543 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Before any life were four circles of different colors, which 544 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 2: BB drew to represent three classmates in herself holding hands. 545 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: And for that she was suspended for school, singled out, browbeaten, 546 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: yelled at by the teacher, forced to apologize to her 547 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: little not a chance, not a chance, not a chance, 548 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: not a chance. I realize it's easier said than done 549 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: to pull your kid out of school because it's really 550 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: really expensive. I'm paying the bills right now. But no way, 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 2: I'm letting my kid have to apologize for that and 552 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: sending them back into that classroom. 553 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: No flipping way, Little. 554 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: MC, the second girl in question, expressed confusion about what 555 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: BB was apologizing for. BB shared MC's confusion about the 556 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: need for an apology, but she did as she was 557 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: ordered to do. She was then prohibited from taking part 558 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: in recess for two weeks. She was banned from recess, 559 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: forced to sit on a bench and watch her classmates 560 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: play without her for that sin. 561 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: That's California schools, folks. 562 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: I'll move around along before I say anything that would 563 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: end our careers. 564 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. I know it is. 565 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: I know it is. I tell you what. It makes me, 566 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: just absolutely militant. I would be eupy I would be 567 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: in danger of getting arrested if I got into a 568 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: conversation about that with my kid at the school. 569 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: We could talk about an oh, oh, it would go 570 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: very very badly. Yes, we could talk about the former Oakland, 571 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: California teacher who is now suing because she was fired 572 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: for not calling a five year old by the right 573 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: pronouns because the five year old's crazy ass activist parents 574 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: had decided that their five year old was misgendered, and 575 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: finally this. 576 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: To drive home the point that. 577 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: We need a Space Shot style effort to clean up education. 578 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: Three Columbia University encampment leaders are suing the school alleging 579 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: that it's disciplinary actions such as they were, caused them 580 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: quote severe emotional and psychological harm, and one of the 581 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: attorneys is Jim carl James Carlson, a professional anarchist who 582 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: stormed Hamilton Hall last spring and clashed with a facilities 583 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: worker with the militant students again, the university gives them 584 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: pitter pat sanctions for violently taking over buildings, and they 585 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: sue for damage and other relief for severe emotional and 586 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: psychological arm including anxiety, depression, and trauma for which they 587 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: are seeking treatment. Wow, if we as a society can't 588 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: stand up and face that sort of thing down, we 589 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: deserve to go away. We deserve to be taken over 590 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: by China or whoever else. 591 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: I agree with that. But none of this is going 592 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: to matter because an asteroids going to hit Earth in 593 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: eight years. I've got the details on that coming up. 594 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: Among other things. 595 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 7: But the price of eggs skyrocketing from bird flu. Shortages 596 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: are growing from coast to coast. Some chains like Costco 597 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 7: and Trader Joe's are limiting the amount of eggs customers 598 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 7: can buy, and it stores with eggs on the shelves 599 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 7: sticker shop. Eggs are now so valuable become a target 600 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 7: for thieves. In Seattle, surveillance camera captured suspects entering a 601 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 7: shed behind Luna Park Cafe. Or police say they stole 602 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 7: more than five hundred eggs. Jerry's Organics had to beef 603 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 7: up security after thieves stole. 604 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand eggs from their farm. 605 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 7: In Pennsylvania, bird flu was impacted tens of millions of 606 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 7: farmed chickens, sending egg prices up sixty. 607 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: Five percent in the last year. 608 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 7: The Department of Agriculture projects egg prices will increase again 609 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 7: about twenty percent this year, and we're told that it 610 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 7: will be at least another six months before egg price 611 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 7: is stabilized. 612 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's why the kids are sharing a room now 613 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: my guy did when I was a kid, and the 614 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: other room is being used full hens. You got about 615 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: one hundred hens in their laying eggs where the money 616 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: is got the. 617 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: Hens little hazmat suits so they don't get the bird flu. 618 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: You almost eat more eggs than I do. 619 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I realize if you're a restaurant aware, Well, 620 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: let's hear this story first. 621 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 7: In Los Angeles, Canter's Deli has been in business for 622 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 7: over one hundred years now. So basically, just to explain this, 623 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 7: you went from dollars a month a few years ago 624 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 7: to know at least twenty three to twenty five thousand 625 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 7: dollars a month for eggs. 626 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, for pretty much the same product for them, the 627 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: same amount of eggs. 628 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: And they are drowning under those costs. 629 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 7: A business has been in business for one hundred and 630 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 7: five years now, can't break even. 631 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Not just simply because of the eggs. That's enough to 632 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: do it. There you go. 633 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: So they're just gonna have to lose money till the 634 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: egg thing gets straightened out. To hold on to their 635 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: customer base, they keep on serving meals and just losing 636 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: money on everywhere. 637 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: That would suck. 638 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: But I might eat three eggs a month, I don't know, 639 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: A couple of week, I don't know, don't do do 640 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: do more people? Most people eat way more eggs than me. 641 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that I too, will really enjoy four 642 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: or five a month, maybe six. Well, although it's in 643 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, bread and stuff like that too, truely, Yeah, 644 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: which all made indeed, which makes everything go up in price. Well, 645 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm big right now on the thing you talk about 646 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: a lot with the tiny number of ingredients like I 647 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: got banana bread at the store the other day, and 648 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: the ingredients where like banana, walnuts, butter and some else 649 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: like four ingredients, And yeah, it makes you feel a 650 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: lot better than when you get that long laundry list 651 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: of ingredients in there. 652 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, great rule of thumb for avoiding the what do 653 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: they call it, the ultra refine foods or Hunter process? 654 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: Ultra process. Yeah, highly process. 655 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: So we have more to the Nancy May story an 656 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: hour for we do. 657 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: Indeed, the concious woman from South Carolina got up and 658 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: gave a shocking speech about rape and sexual exploitation and 659 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: name specific names of her oppressors and those who victimized 660 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: her and other women called out the Attorney General of 661 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: the state of South Carolina against whom she is going 662 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: to be running for office soon. It's all very odd 663 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: and shocking and unprecedented. On the floor of the house. 664 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: We'll have some of the audio for you and some interpretation. 665 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: But this story is not going away. It's one brand 666 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 3: of crazy or another, and we haven't figured out which 667 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: brand yet. 668 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: I'll get to that now or four. Two quick things 669 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: before we take a break. 670 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: One I'm really liking on the iPhone the AI summary 671 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: of my texts. 672 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm finding that very very handy. Huh. I haven't used 673 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: it yet. 674 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: I did I have a choice in using it. It 675 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: just showed up on my phone when I had did 676 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: the update, But now all my texts. I glance at 677 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: it and there's an update long text from the babysitter saying, 678 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: you know dropped off Henry. She will pick him up, 679 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: but as a much longer text day. The way it 680 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 2: picks out just the information you need and gives it 681 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: to you in the bullet is awesome. Uh. And this story, 682 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 2: NASA is tracking an asteroid that could hit the Earth 683 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: in eight years. The asteroid is between one hundred and 684 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: thirty and three hundred feet long, which I believe gets 685 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: you into destroy the dinosaur's territory. Estimated two percent chance 686 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: of an impacting Earth at this point, I had a 687 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: one in fifty. If I had a one and fifty 688 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 2: chance of winning five million dollars. I'd be as excited 689 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: as hell. 690 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: I would be too. 691 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: We have one and fifty chance of having a dinosaur 692 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: level exting. Seems like this is a big story. Sweet 693 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: meat or death. Better late than never. 694 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Eight years, Well, it's been a good run. Been a 695 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: good run. 696 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: We do four hours every single day. We're kind of 697 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: petering out though, after a good run. It's been We 698 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: do four hours every day. If you miss an hour, 699 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: or like me, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on 700 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 2: demand Armstrong and Getty