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Speaker 1: Episode four of Dirt da LS Like guys stay production

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Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. Is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: May five, which you know that's that's the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're so conclined, there you go, all right. I

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Speaker 1: think there's like a couple of other things. It's oh,

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Speaker 1: National World Password Day. Also, hell yeah, I also update

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Speaker 1: those passwords. Yeah, and National Cartoonist Station a cartoonists know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: animators in the parts of utilizing their unions make better

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Speaker 1: workspace exactly exactly. We supports you your cartoonist creations, and

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Speaker 1: I just generally I think we all like any chance

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Speaker 1: shoutout to highlight. Yeah, everybody in news the help. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien ak potatoes, Oh Brian, and I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray. Miles Gray. But you know what, I

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Speaker 1: saw some really great Star Wars references for May the

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Speaker 1: Fourth be with you for yesterday. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: just want to do a couple the Phantom Munch's Attack

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Speaker 1: of the Stones, the Empire, smokes Black and Miles uh

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Speaker 1: a return of the Red Eyes. Okay, shout out to

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Speaker 1: Fight of the night Man on a discord for those

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Speaker 1: Is that is that Fight of the night Man? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that a reference to something man? Fighter of the

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Speaker 1: night Man? It's from It's Always Sunny? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I knew that. I just wanted the listeners not still

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Speaker 1: left down by our little in joke. And it's funny too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a culture I'm not the biggest It's Always

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Speaker 1: So any fan, but I've I've only I've experienced the

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Speaker 1: I think we've had this exact conversation and I just

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Speaker 1: forgot probably well, Miles. We are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: by an executive producer behind shows like Fake Doctor's Real

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Speaker 1: Friend and Welcome to Our Show. You've heard her on

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Speaker 1: pop Culture Happy Hour, read her at Culture, The A

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Speaker 1: V Club Teamboat Page, many more. She is the host

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Speaker 1: and executive producer of the comic com metapod. It is

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Speaker 1: the brilliant and talented Joel Monique. What's Up? Marble Defender

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Speaker 1: Back in Action Star Wars Lady Purple Lipstick don I've

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Speaker 1: got more names coming. We're cooking them. My guys, hair

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Speaker 1: looking good, yes, Miles, Me and my whole day. When

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Speaker 1: you texted me, we were in a meeting and we

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Speaker 1: were like, what's up, Jane Jackson with the poetic Justice braces,

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Speaker 1: Like this is the best compliment I've ever didn't You

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Speaker 1: got your hair done? And then you popped on that

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Speaker 1: that little Cabby hat bill that you had outfit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Joel, your new show dropped yesterday, Yes, it did

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Speaker 1: on me the four anniversary Star Wars Day special celebrating

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Speaker 1: all things Star Wars co host Hector Navarro and I.

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Speaker 1: If you all know Hector, you should get to know him.

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Speaker 1: He's an incredible host. He does a SpongeBob podcast for

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Speaker 1: I Heart and Nickelodeon. But I knew him back in

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean like he keeps a catalog of everything.

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Speaker 1: It's really impressive. We once watched a bunch of Marvel

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Speaker 1: knew that. Like when l a comic con came to

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to bring a convention two ears every week.

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Speaker 1: And we did a whole bunch of tests and they

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Speaker 1: for us was John Carlo was supposed to do and

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Speaker 1: I was like, mine, we're gonna talk to the icon

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Speaker 1: we did family feud style trivia. It was great. That

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Speaker 1: Wonderful Well Joel, we are going to get to know

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Speaker 1: go listen to that show right now, first episode it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but before we get to know you better, some things

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Speaker 1: talking about the Supreme Court, the leaked decision, and just

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Speaker 1: And we'll look at Joe Biden's abortion record. Um, all

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Speaker 1: of that plenty more. First, Joel, we do like to

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Speaker 1: ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: this morning I caught myself on the Disney Grand California

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Speaker 1: Cool and needs some escapism. Yeah, they'd be like, sir,

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Speaker 1: So starting October one they have like sort of a

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Speaker 1: spent around ten million blocking Merritt Garland's nomination, and we

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Speaker 1: spent about ten million each on ten million each on Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: Gorsitch and Coney Barrett. And when you look at how

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Speaker 1: this money moves, right right before Cony Barrett's nomination began,

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Speaker 1: the Judicial Crisis Network got a fourteen million dollar donation

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Speaker 1: from one donor, and it only and they spent about

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Speaker 1: ten millions. Whether that's ads, whether that's putting pressure on

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Speaker 1: senators to vote to confirm, or you know, just to

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Speaker 1: prop them up, putting up flowery ads about a judge,

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Speaker 1: what have you. That's where that money is being spent.

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Speaker 1: And if you just really think about it, one person

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Speaker 1: can single handedly fund the media blitz to confirm or

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Speaker 1: block a nominee, you know, because that's just sort of

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Speaker 1: the amounts of money that's moving. And this is why

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Speaker 1: I think we experience this extreme level of minority rule

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Speaker 1: right now because you have two presidents that lost the

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Speaker 1: popular vote in Trump and Bush, they appointed five Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court justices and through that have stripped away the rights

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Speaker 1: of millions. And it's not because the Republicans are getting

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Speaker 1: out and consistently voting. Yes, that's part of the process,

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Speaker 1: but in a in a much larger scale, we're we're

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Speaker 1: we don't really report on the fact that so many

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Speaker 1: of our policies that are shaped are coming from the

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Speaker 1: very wealthy, and that's who, at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day is sort of at the wheel at what kinds

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Speaker 1: of policies these politicians are trying to legislate. And we

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Speaker 1: don't need Democrats to just tell people to vote. They

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Speaker 1: can use the fucking power that they actually have right

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Speaker 1: now to do things in the interim. You know, many

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Speaker 1: people have pointed to the fact that Biden can make

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Speaker 1: sure the FDA can guarantee access to the abortion peel

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Speaker 1: or Blue states can help expand access to abortion using

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Speaker 1: Medicaid funds to help the people that would inevitably be

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Speaker 1: crossing state lines to get a safe abortion. So as

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Speaker 1: the moneyed powers that stand you have on the on

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Speaker 1: the many, i mean most capitalists, they want. They want

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Speaker 1: to vaporize as the federal government so they can privatize everything,

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Speaker 1: and then the process strip away things like our privacy rights,

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Speaker 1: our ability to organize as workers, and safety regulations so

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Speaker 1: they can conduct business in a way that is just maximum,

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Speaker 1: that provides maximum benefit for their profit earning business. And

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Speaker 1: the biggest impediments to those profits is having to treat

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Speaker 1: people like they are humans. And the best way to

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Speaker 1: get rid of those hurdles is by controlling the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Because now we're in a situation where Aldo has basically said,

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Speaker 1: the gist of what his opinion is saying is if

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Speaker 1: that ship isn't literally in the Constitution when they wrote it,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right. Yeah, that's been

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Speaker 1: like up and now in a statement to stand on,

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Speaker 1: given all the things that weren't right when the Constitution

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Speaker 1: was written, given the fact that like it's meant to

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Speaker 1: be a living document, I I can't understand. I can't

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Speaker 1: wrap my mind around how they think it's going to listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm torn on is this the grasping death rattle of

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Speaker 1: a dying like breed in that you know, folks who

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Speaker 1: are super dedicated to the constitution not as a starting point,

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Speaker 1: but as the finish line or if it's at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the end, not to be too dark, but

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Speaker 1: also what the fuck opens the door? Right, because think

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Speaker 1: about all these things that happened since the civil rights movement,

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Speaker 1: all that's on the table essentially based on the logic

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Speaker 1: that's being presented in this draft that we've read. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, black people were not a full person in

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Speaker 1: in a constitution. I just don't know. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know what you could possibly be thinking. How you think

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Speaker 1: that's going to work. I mean, I think the most

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Speaker 1: you know, what a lot of states will probably emboldened

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Speaker 1: to do is to try and begin to chip away

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Speaker 1: at people's access to contraception. Yeah. Yeah, that feels like

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Speaker 1: the easiest thing, the next step that they can continue

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people wrongfully say things like I

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Speaker 1: U D S are abortion. They're not. Yeah, but we

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Speaker 1: we can begin to see because the access to contraception,

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Speaker 1: those things are decided in the fifties or sixties. I

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Speaker 1: believe for married and unmarried people that that's another thing

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Speaker 1: that I'm like, man, maybe that decision was wrong too.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's such a transparent thing that's happened where

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Speaker 1: these people are put there by you know, people who

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Speaker 1: are elected due to wealthy donors. They then enact legislation

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Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court that makes it so that you know,

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Speaker 1: like they are obliterating campaign finance restrictions, which makes America

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Speaker 1: into an olig oligarchy. That the number of seven of

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Speaker 1: eight presidential elections, seven of the past eight presidential elections

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Speaker 1: were democratic majority results and the one win it was

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Speaker 1: for Republican incumbent after nine eleven, like when the nation

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Speaker 1: had lost its fucking mind, Like the it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty clear majority at this point, and this is

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Speaker 1: just not a majority rule country. It's a capital rural

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Speaker 1: country at this point. And it's like not even is it.

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Speaker 1: But like the fact that we that this isn't the

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Speaker 1: number one thing, like the number one angle on the

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Speaker 1: front page of the New York Times, like is part

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Speaker 1: of the problem. This is a country that is also

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Speaker 1: so bad at talking about like class and you know,

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Speaker 1: the just outsized influence of corporate rations and the wealthy

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Speaker 1: it's um and and the idea that it gets that

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Speaker 1: they get to couch. It is like a grassroots thing

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Speaker 1: as opposed to a you know, oligarchy. Seizing power from

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Speaker 1: the majority of Americans and putting they're very extremist ideas

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Speaker 1: into into action is pretty crazy. Yeah, there's a call

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Speaker 1: from the same group that organized the Women's Rights March,

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Speaker 1: the pussy Hat Ladies. In what was seen right after

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Speaker 1: that Orange you took office, they had that really Aardvrentages

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Speaker 1: basically just a very vocal demonstration of was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're here and we see you, but didn't yield, to

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Speaker 1: my knowledge, a lot of actual results. There's a call

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Speaker 1: to for women to just like not spend money for

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Speaker 1: like starting next week, like for an entire week, to

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Speaker 1: do their best to not like engage in the economy

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Speaker 1: as a vocal opportunity to say like, hey, don't funk

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Speaker 1: with us. Based off of you know, Iceland's similar protests

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Speaker 1: and what was that like, I think, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it will work. I don't know if there's it

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Speaker 1: seems like a thing that upper middle class and up

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Speaker 1: folks can do. I don't know. You know, back when

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Speaker 1: I was making like seven fifty an hour, if that

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Speaker 1: would have been an option to just not spend money,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get on the bus. I gotta do X

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Speaker 1: Y and Z in order to support myself. But I

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Speaker 1: do like the idea potentially of being like, can we

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Speaker 1: as a vocal majority say we'll just keep our money

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Speaker 1: then and you can't have it because that's the only

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Speaker 1: like language that you guys speak, And it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: we can do much beyond you know, they're in to

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Speaker 1: take away our money is the only thing that really

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Speaker 1: speaks to companies, I think anyway, from a large group

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Speaker 1: of people saying like, hey, we'll take your stock if

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Speaker 1: we have to. What do we need to do? Right

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Speaker 1: and it but it also goes back to this reflective individualism,

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Speaker 1: like we are inside this system where massive corporations outside

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Speaker 1: of our control and above all of us are making

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Speaker 1: these decisions that take away the rights of individuals, And

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Speaker 1: then the answer seems to always reflectibly go to like

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Speaker 1: we need to demonstrate harder, we need to you know,

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Speaker 1: vote harder, and we need to like in this case,

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Speaker 1: And I like, I think any any action is great,

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Speaker 1: like I'm but I do feel like the way that

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Speaker 1: like this system is just irrevocably fucked right now is

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Speaker 1: underrated by a lot of the kind of initial responses

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Speaker 1: which are like, well, we gotta like this is what

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Speaker 1: people in Latin American countries did to get abortion rights,

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Speaker 1: Like we need to do that too, and like that

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Speaker 1: may that may be true, but like we also are

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Speaker 1: like at the tail end of a long period of

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Speaker 1: this system just actively like robbing people of their individual rights. Right.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know too, again, like when you talk

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Speaker 1: about all the money that's swirling around, you think of

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Speaker 1: how all like these decisions are really made in advance

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Speaker 1: by wealthy people, whether it's like overturning Row or even

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Speaker 1: go back to like Clinton right and repealing the Glass

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Speaker 1: Stiegel Act, which basically Casino fied Wall Street. That it's

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Speaker 1: we have people who are like come from Goldman Sacks,

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Speaker 1: end up running the Treasury, lean on Bill Clinton and

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Speaker 1: others to be like, hey man, what we need to

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Speaker 1: do is make it real easy to allow investment banks

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Speaker 1: and retail banks and insurers to merge into one thing,

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Speaker 1: which ended up us having to you know, we we

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Speaker 1: we saw it happen in two thousand and eight. And

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Speaker 1: again you even look at the people within that industry,

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Speaker 1: like Robert Rubin, who was at the at the Treasury

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Speaker 1: at the time. He ends up going to City Group

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Speaker 1: right after and he even like got he was like

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Speaker 1: even leaning on Clinton to be like you have to

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Speaker 1: pre approve a merger between city Group and Travelers as

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Speaker 1: part of like this bill. And you can see that

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Speaker 1: all of the so many people in the government, these

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Speaker 1: monumental bills, they're always outside aims, right, it's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: just for the bent like that. They're like, this is

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Speaker 1: actually what we need for the country. No, it's this

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Speaker 1: guy from Goldman Sacks, other people from other places end

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Speaker 1: up in the White House and they're like, hey man,

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Speaker 1: so I'm here to hook up the homies, so let's

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Speaker 1: let's begin to do that. And you know, some people

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Speaker 1: can win off that. But more importantly, this is going

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Speaker 1: to help our industry and we can case it in

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Speaker 1: whatever argument we need to. But we're like, it's not

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Speaker 1: we're not we're not regularly talking about how much moneyed influence.

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Speaker 1: We can point to so many of our ills because

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Speaker 1: people were enriching themselves with some of these policy decisions.

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Speaker 1: And like, apparently if you do, then it's like too

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Speaker 1: extreme to be on like CNN or fucking MSNBC or

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Speaker 1: this interested in it because it inevitably is going to

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Speaker 1: cause some kind of examination of what what the role

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Speaker 1: of corporations are in our in our media and our

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Speaker 1: politics and things like that. And in a fully corporate

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Speaker 1: like corporate tized, ad based you know, media format that

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Speaker 1: can't always happen luckily we can. We're not, I guess

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Speaker 1: we're not enough of a threat where people are trying

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Speaker 1: to pull to say, oh, this is this is too

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Speaker 1: dangerous or whatever, even though this is ad supported. But

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Speaker 1: you look at like larger companies. If a network is

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Speaker 1: wholly owned by a company that's also making like war machines,

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Speaker 1: they're less likely to talk about the military industrial complex there.

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Speaker 1: And we because of all so many things become obscure.

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Speaker 1: We're like coming out of this fog where like in

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Speaker 1: a car accident where not many people realize that the

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Speaker 1: thing is fully has been broken for a very long time. Yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's very dark and scary times, particularly when you

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Speaker 1: follow a lot of abortion rights activists and there like

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Speaker 1: Night of learning the news was just so traumatic from

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Speaker 1: the perspective of like, okay, well we'll start telling the

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Speaker 1: stories of our mothers then and what they had to do.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, we definitely can't go back there.

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Speaker 1: And then you know a lot of them were like

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Speaker 1: your action plans to figure out which doctors know how

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Speaker 1: to perform abortions, can you talk to that doctor not

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Speaker 1: on the record about whether they'd be willing to do

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Speaker 1: that post it being league Like, I mean, the things

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Speaker 1: that people are already having to try to comprehend doing,

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Speaker 1: you know, just to survive, just to you know, keep

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Speaker 1: more women alive and more people with uterus is alive.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a lot. And yeah, this, when you look

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Speaker 1: at something like this, you just seem more and more like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what started off as courting evangelicals, the Republicans

639
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Speaker 1: also like, you know what, I think we can also

640
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Speaker 1: use patriarchy of misogyny to get people motivated. It might

641
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Speaker 1: not even be necessarily not Maybe some of the people

642
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: don't really don't care if it's about hell and saving

643
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Speaker 1: a soul. They actually like the idea that we can

644
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Speaker 1: tell somebody with a uterus now you can't do that.

645
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Speaker 1: You can do this though I can't do that, And

646
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: it's just you know, more control. And I think over

647
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: time it morphs into these things, and we're now at

648
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 1: a point where people are asking, well, what what needs

649
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: to be done. Well, you know a lot of people

650
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: have been saying from the beginning to expand the court,

651
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: put term limits on these justices and things like that.

652
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: But we still seem to be in a phase where we're,

653
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Speaker 1: you know, where we've been waiting for a response from

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Speaker 1: the federal government since that law in Texas passed, and

655
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was like, just to wait whole government response,

656
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: whole of government response. Yeah, we're about to talk about that,

657
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, scary times, especially when you take into account

658
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: to like even before women weren't typically the target of

659
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: prosecution around cases of abortion, and since like they've started

660
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Speaker 1: pushing back laws and in states that seems to be

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00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: the strategy. Is like a woman who comes in with

662
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: a still birth like that gets investigated for what happened

663
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: in her own body. A woman was arrested in Indiana

664
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Speaker 1: like what a year two years ago before having a miscarriage. Like, Yeah,

665
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: the the things they're going after, the things that they're

666
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Speaker 1: trying to do, you know, even even just trying to

667
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: do it's right now. Yeah, And I think a lot

668
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: of people to like, throughout all this, we're almost like

669
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Speaker 1: we're confused because we're like did we ever actually have progress?

670
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, like are are we still the same country?

671
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: But we the people have moved forward, but the policies haven't,

672
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: and we're constantly having like a reconciliation or reckoning with

673
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: what the messages, what the lived reality is, what the

674
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: sentiment is of people, and how like they or if

675
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: they feel like they're own completely different spaces, like they're

676
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: they're not in agreement? Yeah, and is it like that

677
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: we're taking away? Right? So it's like, you know, to

678
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: be honest, most people never really had a lot of

679
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: these rights anyway, you know when you consider like the

680
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Speaker 1: amount of like recognized safe abortion clinics that were actually

681
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Speaker 1: in the country even after way, even after Row, Like

682
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: what is the situation? And I don't know, Like part

683
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Speaker 1: of me is like, are are we really? Do we

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Speaker 1: think of all the progress we've We've definitely made so

685
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: much progress, but there's been so much ship going back

686
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: and forth, Like you take a step forward, you take

687
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: two back, you take three forward, one back, and you're like,

688
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: how much actually have we moved forward? On to continuum?

689
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Speaker 1: And I find myself constantly trying to think about that, Like, right,

690
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I know, these laws passed and that's good. But I'm

691
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: still looking at statistics of like death rates and other

692
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: things as it relates to a myriad of issues, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like where I Yeah, just a difficult time. There's

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Speaker 1: a great quote from Marianne Kabba, who's an abolitionist. It

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Speaker 1: says hope is a discipline, which I think is you know,

696
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Speaker 1: apt for the times, and I mean, how much progress

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Speaker 1: is slow? Unfortunately it doesn't happen rapidly. I think examining

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Speaker 1: it as what ground are we not willing to seed

699
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: and how much further can we push for a better

700
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Speaker 1: world for the majority, and focusing really on on that

701
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: kind of hope is good. I think understanding who is

702
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: trying to take away our rights and discerning that from

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Speaker 1: you know, what our neighbors. You know, I mean you

704
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: said before, like people are pro abortion, are you know?

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Speaker 1: I think I think we have to remember that there's

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Speaker 1: more of us and we are stronger in spirit than

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Speaker 1: you know. Then they're agreed and it's going to take

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Speaker 1: time though, and it might get scary along the way unfortunately. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know, and I think it's it's disheartening to

710
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Speaker 1: when we you know, we're we're sort of indoctrinated with

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Speaker 1: this idea that you know, like that we vote the

712
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: people in and then they make the laws to help,

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Speaker 1: you know, keep people safe. But all like all we

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Speaker 1: read about is the lack of safety we have and

715
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: confused leadership and that really it's such a it's such

716
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: a like defeating thing for a lot of people to

717
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: grasp because we're looking for solutions. But invest time in

718
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: your community, people. I can't stress it strongly enough. Build

719
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: into your own communities because you will have a much

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00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: firmer and clearer idea of what is actually happening around you.

721
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: And when you see frightening change or people trying to

722
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: lead your community and direction that you know is wrong

723
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: or unsafe, you can take action at a local level.

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Speaker 1: And I really think that's going to be our solution

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00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: going forward, small local steps, because if they can't touch

726
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: us there, then it's gonna be much harder for them

727
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: to operate on a large scale without us. Yeah, in

728
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: places we've definitely seen progress go in the wrong direction.

729
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Is caging of humans, right, Like in the United States,

730
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Speaker 1: the increased power and you know, budgets and militarization of

731
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: police and like those are human you know, those are

732
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: directly things that are used to take away human rights.

733
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously in the case of caging, like that

734
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: is exactly what it is designed to do. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: this this feels like it's part of a larger hole

736
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Speaker 1: and not a necessarily a new thing that is just

737
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: like the result of some extremists on the Supreme Court,

738
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Speaker 1: which I feel like it is the way some people

739
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: are are greeting greeting it. Yeah, all right, let's let's

740
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Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back and talk Biden.

741
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Speaker 1: And we're back and Biden that, as we mentioned, promised

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Speaker 1: a whole of government response to Texas anti choice laws.

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00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: And then I'll just read from some senators about like

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00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: what what that whole of government response looked like. Not

745
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: a peep, Senator John Tester told The Daily Beast when

746
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: asked if you'd heard anything about the whole of government approach.

747
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: They haven't shared that with me, said Senator Tim Cain,

748
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: and and so forth. There there was nothing. Now they're

749
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, they're they're starting to have emergency

750
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: meetings with the White House about how to protect abortion access.

751
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: But that before Monday's bombshell leak, they hadn't talked to

752
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: any specifics with with Biden with the administration, and it's like,

753
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: are we surprised given his history historical relationship to the

754
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: concept of abortion. Yeah, So in nineteen four he literally said,

755
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Speaker 1: I don't think that a woman has the soul right

756
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: to say what should happen to her body that Joe

757
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: Biden said that voted against using Medicaid to fund abortions

758
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: and even exceptions for victims of rape and incest in

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00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: addition to concerns for the life of the mother. So

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00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: those were he he voted against taking those exceptions into account,

761
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: and eight one he voted to remove them exceptions in

762
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: what is considered the most far reaching ban on federal

763
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: funds ever enacted to Congress. Voted several times to keep

764
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Speaker 1: federal workers from using health insurance to pay for abortions.

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Speaker 1: As president, he did omit omit the High Amendment, which

766
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: denies insurance coverage for abortion through government sponsored plans like Medicaid.

767
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: So he didn't didn't didn't use that in his budgets,

768
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: but he supported the High Amendment as recently as while

769
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: he was campaigning in Yeah, that is yis yeah, I

770
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, there's even a tweet from the Potus

771
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: account to and it's like, all right, we know what

772
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: we gotta do, Like elected officials, we gotta do everything

773
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: we can to make this happen, and the voters got

774
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: to make sure they protect the pro choice politicians and

775
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: elect them. But you also look at the same time,

776
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: like this guy is campaigning for like Henry quay Are,

777
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: who is like an anti choice Democrat, and so I

778
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: was like Jim Clyburn and Nancy Pelosi and the party's

779
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: leadership is getting behind an anti choice Democrat and you know,

780
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: so so it's like hard to so much as self

781
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: inflicted with this too, like we're not like the Democrats

782
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: aren't even consistent, Like the Republicans are like nomen like

783
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: we're like we are anti choice. Democrats are like, well,

784
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, like if this guy works for him over there,

785
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: that's fine, but because we gotta win these elections. But

786
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: it's that sort of normalization I think really dulled the

787
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: sense of urgency for Democrats for what the last fifty years, Right,

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00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: So practical practical practicalities and like, uh, following the polling

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00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: and then not following the polling when it means actually

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00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: doing something that helps people. Yeah, it's I don't know,

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00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: it's cowardly. Yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't

792
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: even know. I don't even know. I mean it's I mean,

793
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: they're playing in our faces though, like I mean in

794
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: a way that's sort of horror dying in the same

795
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: way that they're doing it with these students. But we

796
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: don't we don't know if we do some loans or not.

797
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: We can't forgive. We're just not sure what would that

798
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: look like. Even we have billions of dollars to do

799
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't know military things, but it couldn't possibly figure

800
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: out how to do this. We can keep delaying them, though, um,

801
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't just stand up and saying the

802
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: other work because the Republicans will go crazy. We understand

803
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: that the majority of people are pro abortion and believe

804
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: women have rights to their bodies. But what could we

805
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: possibly do. Oh gosh, they promise us they're not going

806
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: to change it, and that that's just law. They said

807
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: it in their hearings, and so we have to believe them.

808
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a constant naivete from them, and I

809
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: think it's famed, which is pretty exhausting and I can't

810
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: understand why other than cowardice, like I have to face

811
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Speaker 1: these people and I don't want them to be mad

812
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: or I'm not sure, you know, people might be mad.

813
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: We really seems to oil down to people might be

814
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: mad at me. And so I can't make these life changing,

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00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: generationally impactful changes that are necessary immediately despite having the

816
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: power to do so. And I think this is in

817
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: general right that we have. We have too many people

818
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: like who are anchors on cable news and who are

819
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: politicians who are so wealthy that they have their their

820
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: their idea of what a working person is is maybe

821
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: when they were twelve, you know what I mean, And

822
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: they and they're operating from that concept of what it

823
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: means to be a wage worker, what it means to

824
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: be a single parent, and are not fully connected with

825
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: what that reality. I keep saying this over and over.

826
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Speaker 1: That's the big that's that's so clear. That's why they're confused.

827
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: That's why they are like, whoa wait, no, oh this

828
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Speaker 1: I thought I thought this this this ship used to

829
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: work ten years ago. Well, yeah, ten years ago, there

830
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: weren't as many people, really like grappling with their own debt,

831
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: their lack of upward mobility and things like that, and

832
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Speaker 1: there they're now aging into a point where they're a

833
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: larger cohort of people who vote. And I think that's

834
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: the other part we're experiencing too, is like the people

835
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: who represent as a lift have no idea what life

836
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: is like in America, right, and so there's no That's

837
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: why there's no sense of urgency. Everything feels like, from

838
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Speaker 1: well from their perspective, Okay, yeah, this is bad, but

839
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: we can do this, we can do this, we can

840
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: do this. Um yeah, yeah. So I don't know, Like

841
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: I think people have made the argument he's not equipped

842
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: to leave this fight, but I I think it's like

843
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: he actively has been working against women's reproductive rights for

844
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: most of his career. So regardless of what he may

845
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: say now, it's pretty clear that there's a reason behind

846
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: his inaction. And I don't know, I don't know if

847
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: it gets better if like for political expediency he changes

848
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: and you know, uses this to his advantage. But it's

849
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Speaker 1: pretty fun that we find ourselves in this position. Yeah,

850
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and right now, I think the one

851
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: thing's the only thing that is of benefit is like,

852
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, blue states are codifying those rights and trying

853
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: you know, some you know, some local officials are trying

854
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: to say, like we need to do whatever we can,

855
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: like if we're like a blue state surrounded by red states,

856
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: like how we help people like in Illinois or like

857
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: Maryland where you're like in these places where a lot

858
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: of like you're kind of where people might head to.

859
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: And we and we do see that discussion beginning, but

860
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: that seems to be out of people who understand the

861
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: urgency of it and are connected to those resources and

862
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: trying to move immediately. And then you know, up at

863
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: the highest level, there's just like now we're you know,

864
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: half of the discussion is like who leaked it? Why

865
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: did they leak it? And they're like there's even a

866
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: cynical version of like the Democrats leak it to try

867
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: and like get people to wake up. You That's so

868
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: strange to me because my mind immediately was like, okay,

869
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: so some hero was like not on my watch and

870
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: released the papers. It was like people need to know

871
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: before it becomes in action. But then I saw some

872
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: talking head and I don't remember who it was, but

873
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, well, maybe the Republicans did it

874
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: so no one could back out maybe the Democrats did

875
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: it as a way of embarrassing the court, and I

876
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: was like, that seems so I mean, even if that

877
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: is the case, it seems so beyond like I don't

878
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: care really like who what the alternative method or reasoning was.

879
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: It just matters that, like that does not happen. If

880
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: we can stop it, if there is any kind of

881
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: way to not make you know, people with Yoush's second

882
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: class citizens, that would be great. It's super awesome. Yeah.

883
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: The New York Times is covering the perception of politicization

884
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: as like I think that was like the top story

885
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: on on Wednesday morning was like people on both sides

886
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: are like dismayed at the growing politicization of the court,

887
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: and you know, suddenly with this leak business, we're seeing

888
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: a Supreme Court that has succumbed to the evil politics

889
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: where their sides and these are you know, supposed to

890
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: be the law priests calling balls and strikes, except you know,

891
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: Alex Schmidt on yesterday's episode was pointed to this thing

892
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: by Ian Millheiser, a book I think they're called this

893
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: thing by Ian Millhuser, a book by E. Millizer called Injustices.

894
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: That's just like kind of a twentieth century history of

895
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and it is it's it's very instructive.

896
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I guess that's like they are almost uniformly pushing in

897
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: the direction of Congress will put something into action, they

898
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: will use that interpretation or that law to like protect

899
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: businesses or corporations. There's like a great anecdote in the

900
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: about or a horrifying anecdote about how like after Congress

901
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: started like putting rulings for like due process into place

902
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: so that like, you know, white supremacist states couldn't just

903
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: use whatever means they wanted to to cage freed slaves.

904
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: They the Supreme Court took that and started applying it

905
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: to like things like a case that came before them

906
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: where eight year old were working in coal mines and

907
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: people are like, that's not okay to have eight year

908
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: olds working in coal mines and like having you know,

909
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: being killed frequently constantly because they're eight and they're working

910
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 1: in a fucking coal mine. They were like that, you're

911
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: messing with the due process of like the coal corporations,

912
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: or you know, you're messing when some somebody tried to

913
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: get like a sub sixty hour work week and less

914
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: than ten hours in a single day for New York bakers.

915
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: They came through and said that the law violated the

916
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: liberty of bakery owners to negotiate contracts with their employees.

917
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: Like they take the progressive ideas in the government, like

918
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: they are supported by people, and they use it to

919
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: protect corporations. So, by the New York Times logic of

920
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: like politicization being a problem, the Supreme Court is like

921
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: allowed to do a very political thing of siding with

922
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: businesses who make their one percent lifestyle is possible. They're

923
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: just not allowed to disagree with each other publicly. When

924
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: they do that is essentially like the message that that

925
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: is sending down. Yeah, that's that has been their thing.

926
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: They've been pro business, they've been very conservative, and then

927
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: when they occasionally have a liberal or progressive leaning decision,

928
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: it's with fail something that is actually emerging within the public.

929
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: So they're just there to agree with the public and

930
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: like occasionally crystallize things like gay marriage into law after

931
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: people have already you know, come to that decision on

932
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: their own. So they're not really doing anything for us.

933
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: They're just taking away our rights well empowering businesses, and

934
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: that's been the case for the entire twentieth century, right,

935
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: and it's like there's no branch of government that is

936
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: free of that. Yeah, it's get It's like I said, man,

937
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: these people need to be wearing fucking NASCAR jackets with

938
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: all their fucking donors on it. So when they walk

939
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: into the capital, you're like, Okay, so your fis or

940
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: your Dow Chemicals, your your three M, you're this company.

941
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Because that is so much of what how and age

942
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: like how someone's votes are determined based on who they're

943
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: beholden to, and I don't know why, there's just that

944
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: we with like there just needs to be again, more

945
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: discussion around how all of this is working, rather than

946
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: treating it like this abstraction that we can't figure out

947
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: what's going on, what's happening? How did how did we

948
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: get here? We fucking know. Because when the power dynamic

949
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: isn't such where politicians are beholden to the people, that

950
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: has been completely obliterated, and votes are just a means

951
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: to an end to legitimize the decisions that these politicians

952
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: make on behalf of their wealthy donors. And that's the

953
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: situation we're in, and it's just going to continue to evolve,

954
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: Like we're saying, like, since you know fucking the Supreme Court,

955
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Hey, what do you know?

956
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: Oh what? They they're they they're making you treat you

957
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: these eight year olds like human workers. No, man, you're

958
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: violating that eight year olds right to exploit themselves out

959
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: of sheer desperation because of a system we help set up.

960
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: Or like some dumbass editors. If you don't want to

961
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: have a baby, don't have sex, sir, I don't know

962
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: if you know how anything. No one forced you to

963
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: have sex. Do you have you heard of the term rape?

964
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: Do you know what it means? Like? And then causing

965
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: women to have to like share the horrific stories to

966
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: sort of articulate against your point. It's just because again

967
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of dudes really making a bulk

968
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: of the decisions, a bulk of white men making the decisions,

969
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: and a ton of white women just supporting that white

970
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: supremacistic goal. Yeah, and everyone's internalized, mysie, like everyone is

971
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: dealing with so much as this is all happening. But again,

972
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: to to it's I think it's just really harmful for

973
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: articles to be written that are like confused or like

974
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: how we got here and we're not constantly like like

975
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: just ringing the alarm that like this is this this

976
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: isn't a representative democracy obviously, but never really was a republic,

977
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: what have you. But it's just a it's a full

978
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: on you know that we have too many corporatized politicians

979
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: now and Washington, DC is merely the venue to help

980
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: set business policy and we're just in real time having

981
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: to react to that, whether it's tax cuts for them

982
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: or cutting off people's health care or whatever. And that's

983
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: the confusion, I think is that we were not the

984
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: mainstream sort of tone on all of this is we've ceased.

985
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: We've for a long time, we have not been a country,

986
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe ever, we've never been a country

987
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: that is looking at every single person that lives here

988
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: as a human being and and that there's a certain

989
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: level of inalienable rights that applies to every single living

990
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: person in the country. Yeah. And this is the one

991
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: thing that is notable about this is that other countries,

992
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: as I think one of you said earlier, like other

993
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: countries have not been moving in this direction on reproductive

994
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: rights and abortion rights, like it really at all and

995
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: suddenly the US is like moving rolling things back in

996
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: a way that you know what, when you read about

997
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: countries that prohibit access to abortion, you like immediately see

998
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: like it's it's a fucking nightmare. It's an absolute nightmare.

999
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: And the thing that they're trying to institute is a

1000
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: absolute nightmare. And like that that would be a great

1001
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: front pitch story for The New York Times to tell

1002
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: like that this is out of step with everything around

1003
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: the world, and like that this is where we are

1004
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: now and it makes sense that we're here because of

1005
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: the system that we have in place. Mm hmm. And yeah.

1006
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: All the while, you know what, the Republicans just continue

1007
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: to like end the just in public, be like we

1008
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: don't we hate we hate you. If you have a uterus,

1009
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: we hate you. If you're not Christian, we ate you.

1010
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: If you're not sis gender, we hate you, if you're

1011
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 1: not white. Yep, that's it. We're telling you that that's

1012
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: where we're at. And we're and we're like, Okay, somebody

1013
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: somebody go toe to toe with this and the the

1014
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: I and we're not. We're not seeing the kinds of

1015
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: responses that we need and would to be honest, this

1016
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: is something that has been a fifty year issue that

1017
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: could have been addressed, but just it just seemed I

1018
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: think it's beneficial for both sides to kind of keep

1019
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: reaching for it. I'm gonna reach. Look, I got that

1020
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: thing on me, I could overturn row, and then the

1021
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: other versions, like they got that thing on him, they

1022
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: could overturn the row, you know. And that's and then

1023
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: we just go in circles and and and now we're here. Yeah,

1024
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: and in the meantime, they've readlined us to death. So

1025
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: like even if when we try to vote them out

1026
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: and my grand voice is heard, it's become statistically challenging

1027
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: to do so. And look how quickly we saw DHS

1028
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: beating people up who were protests, people who are pro

1029
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: abortion out there in l A. I saw the clips

1030
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: fucking DHS Goon's rolling out and just what the fuck already,

1031
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: But again, they're showing you what to stay, they're showing

1032
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: you the steaks already, like when they're okay, so you're

1033
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: here for that too. And so that's another thing. Body autonomy,

1034
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, police violence, that's don't don't think any of

1035
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna change, because you're gonna now we're just saying

1036
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: we will be met with violence. Even if you're there

1037
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: to say I'm I'm not even saying you need less

1038
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: money ful. I'm here to say people deserve body autonomy,

1039
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: and now you want to fucking rough people up over that. Yeah, alright,

1040
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: Well that's been an episode, Joe, Well that's been Sorry.

1041
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: It is always such a pleasure having you on the show. Yeah,

1042
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you and hear you?

1043
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah for news that is not this but Star Wars

1044
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: and Comic Base. If you need to enjoy some escapeism,

1045
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: come check out Comic Con, Meta Pod wherever you get

1046
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: your podcasts, and you can follow me all over the

1047
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: internet at weal when he gets j O E L

1048
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: E M O and a Q you E. I have

1049
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: two tweets I want to share. One's a little dark,

1050
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: one's a little hopeful. So here we go. First, one

1051
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: comes from Angry Black Lady. That's amount of gandy. She's

1052
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: a lawyer, she's pretty dope. When she tweeted this on

1053
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: the night of May second, when we found out everything,

1054
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: it's just tonight's aject planic makes it clear that people

1055
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: aren't ready for what's about to happen. Get ready, get

1056
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: your affairs in order figure out whether or not you're

1057
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: willing to break the lot of help a friend get

1058
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: an abortion, and how far you're willing to go. Response

1059
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Speaker 1: to that, someone said, get ready nothing in writing, don't

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Speaker 1: say funk about ship over the phone, don't take take

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Speaker 1: secrets to the grave. To the grave. We have each

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Speaker 1: You don't know anything. You only love people harder than ever,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a great message and sort of

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Speaker 1: aspirational to hear. A lot of abortion rights activists who've

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Speaker 1: plans and are ready to go. And along those line.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Gunter, who goes by doctor Jim Gunter on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: who is the vagina doctor, and she is amazing. She

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Speaker 1: has an incredible podcast. She said, there's something concrete you

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Speaker 1: can do today to support abortion. Look up your doctor

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Speaker 1: b g y NS. This is a medical hate group

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Speaker 1: that spreads lies about abortions. If your doctor's listed, try

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Speaker 1: to get a doctor who isn't. Look it up if

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Speaker 1: they took down their logs, But feel free to call

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Speaker 1: your doctor and just straight up ask them, give the information,

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Speaker 1: share it with people you know who might go to

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Speaker 1: that doctor. If we can stop it at least somewhat

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Speaker 1: at the source. If you can make sure you have doctor,

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Speaker 1: that's an ally that can go along with helping you

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Speaker 1: in the future. So some advice. Yeah, Miles, where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles

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Speaker 1: the first some tweets I like David at Underscore. D

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at Daily Zikeys. Were at

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: enjoy miles with song do you think people might have? Today?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go out on a track called Guessing Games

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Speaker 1: Guessing Games. Alright, Well, go check that out. The Daily

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