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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho. I'm Daniel

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Speaker 1: Henderson and hey you out there in podcast land.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how's it going. It's going all right. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to fight with my wildlife guy. No, so that's my life.

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Speaker 2: That's happening.

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Speaker 1: I thought you guys were on good terms. What happened?

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Speaker 1: So did I.

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Speaker 2: He's here all the time because I've got no shortage

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Speaker 2: of animals trying to move into my house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give us a little bit. We haven't actually talked

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Speaker 1: about that in a couple ups. So, okay, you had groundhogs, raccoons,

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Speaker 1: and bats. Groundhogs have been moved. Yes, raccoons have been moved.

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Speaker 2: Raccoons have been moved. Bats have been there. He puts

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Speaker 2: some kind of cone to take the bats to the

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Speaker 2: point where they don't want to come in my house.

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Speaker 1: That's right back cone. I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: So that's cool because bats don't like whatever he did,

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Speaker 2: so they're not hanging out anymore. Okay, but now I

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Speaker 2: have squirrels in my attic and this I think it's

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Speaker 2: just one like pernicious red squirrel. And he's been bold

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Speaker 2: since the fucking start. I've seen him all summer terrorizing

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Speaker 2: other squirrels. He's loud, he's chirpy, and he's in the

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Speaker 2: attic space right above my bedroom. So a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: I wake up to what sounds like a tiny bowling

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Speaker 2: game happening above my head, and I was like, what

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Speaker 2: the actual shit is that? And it's like he had

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Speaker 2: found some kind of crab apple and was just basically

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Speaker 2: rolling it around the attic. And then as time went on,

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Speaker 2: like over the week, I could hear him scratching and

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Speaker 2: chewing on shit. Oh boy, So I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: time to call my dude. So I call my dude

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, we have another critter. And I

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Speaker 2: hope it's just one, but he's in my attic and

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Speaker 2: he starts getting to work at about four am and

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Speaker 2: he stops usually around like sundown. But I don't enjoy

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Speaker 2: his hours at all. I need you to get him

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Speaker 2: out of my house.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, my question really is how come there's been

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Speaker 1: so many breaches? Like, yeah, I feel like once you

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Speaker 1: were able to get a bat out, that would mean

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Speaker 1: a squirrel couldn't come in, right, But maybe I'm wrong

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I thought too. But what I didn't

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Speaker 2: realize is that squirrels and groundhogs are the type of

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Speaker 2: animals whose teeth grow continuously if they don't chew on shit.

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Speaker 2: And my house is made entirely of like wood, and

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Speaker 2: so they're basically just chewing through the sides of my

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Speaker 2: house because it's an old barn, like I don't have

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Speaker 2: vinyl sighting.

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Speaker 1: God, like, get them a fucking pacifier, getting a fucking

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Speaker 1: shoe toy, like come on your house.

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Speaker 2: I thought about getting one of those like corn cob

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Speaker 2: things that you stand up and like let animals chew on,

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, but no, they're just like your house is

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Speaker 2: what we want. There's something about the wood. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: like a sweet paint that they used. Oh lord, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but they want my goddamn house. So I'm

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Speaker 2: looking up like, hey, is there a type of clear

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Speaker 2: coat I can put on the outside of my house

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Speaker 2: to keep animals away? Because I am losing my mind

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Speaker 2: at this point. Yeah, with the sheer number of animals

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Speaker 2: trying to get it, Like, I would not be surprised

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Speaker 2: if I went downstairs for water and there was a

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Speaker 2: fucking deer in my kitchen, just like having a cup

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Speaker 2: of coffee, like, hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Okay, every time you come to this pod and you

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Speaker 1: talk about an animal, all I can imagine is that

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Speaker 1: you are like George Harrison in the I Got My

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Speaker 1: mind set on you video where you're just sitting there

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Speaker 1: playing a fucking good tarr a chair and then there's

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Speaker 1: just animals moving around all over.

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Speaker 2: That. I mean, well, that is could not be more accurate.

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Speaker 2: That is precisely my day. I sit down and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what animals are gonna be today? Squirrel, hedgehog, groundhog, deer?

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna be wearing a flannel bathrobe? A nightcap?

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's playing that sacks tonight.

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Speaker 2: Who's playing fucking saxophone, who's got the harpsichord, who's got

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Speaker 2: the fucking clarinet. It's like, that is exactly my life.

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Speaker 2: You have nailed it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So I've got this squirrel in the damn attic and

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Speaker 2: I was like I called him up and I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: of this, and got this very involved story about how

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Speaker 2: he can't come to my house because he's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of family shit going on, and I'm a compassionate person.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, no problem, let me know when

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Speaker 2: you can get here, knowing that I will just be

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Speaker 2: living with this squirrel and listening to it eat its

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Speaker 2: later he is like, Hey, I can come out there

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Speaker 2: on Friday. He's like, okay, great. He shows up on Friday.

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Speaker 2: And there's a thing that happens when certain men see

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Speaker 2: that I live here by myself. Some of them are like, cool,

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Speaker 2: have fun. Most of them are like, oh, you got

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Speaker 2: to do this and that, and you fix this and

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Speaker 2: you do that, and you fucks and I there's nothing

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Speaker 2: that makes me angrier faster than anyone, but particularly a

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Speaker 2: dude assuming that I'm an asshole and I don't know

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Speaker 2: what I'm doing, Like a lot of this is new

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Speaker 2: and do it. So his approach is very like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, there's so much around your house that needs

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Speaker 2: to be done and blah blah blah and this and that,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I just want you to take

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Speaker 2: care of the squirrel. But he didn't. Instead, what he

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Speaker 2: did on Friday was he He busted out as leaf

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Speaker 2: in the corner of my house and got all the

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Speaker 2: did not realize this man was gonna be on my

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Speaker 2: blowing leaves and I was like, cool, what about the squirrel?

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Speaker 2: Came back Saturday and it was the same thing. He's like, well,

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Speaker 2: be clean, andah blah blah blah. And I'm like, just

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Speaker 2: the squirrel, Just the squirrel. That's just the squirrel. That

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Speaker 2: is all I fucking need you to do. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: that you're looking out for me, Please just take care

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Speaker 2: of the squirrel. And what really bothers me is that

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Speaker 2: it then turned into a conversation that was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing with your barn? Have you ever

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Speaker 2: thought about renting it out? Like maybe you could rent

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Speaker 2: it out to me and it would just be my

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Speaker 2: tools and sometimes me And I was like, no, my

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Speaker 2: insurance is not cover at all.

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Speaker 1: What. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then it was when he came inside to look

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Speaker 2: and like, did you find someone decent to do the work.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm very comfortable with my contractor.

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Speaker 2: I'm very happy. And he was like, what are you

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Speaker 2: paying for like this reno and blah blah blah uh uh,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't want to tell you that,

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Speaker 2: and I was like it's I'm like, I'm paying what

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Speaker 2: it's worth. I'm paying it's completely within my budget. And

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Speaker 2: he was like, well, you know, I'm always looking for

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Speaker 2: winter work, so don't do too much. And I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I see. So now this has turned into you trying

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Speaker 2: to get more work out of me. Yes, by telling

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Speaker 2: me all this shit that's wrong with my house and ps,

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Speaker 2: you're still not doing the job I hired you to do.

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Speaker 1: Dude, this is turning into a Cable Guys scenario real fast.

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Speaker 1: First of all, yeah, he is bold to ask you

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Speaker 1: to rent out a part of your property to him,

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Speaker 1: like thank you even for his damn tools. Let alone

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a practice space where he's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just we're a practice But then I also sleep

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Speaker 1: on the couch every night, right, Uh no, that is

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Speaker 1: a bold ask. I don't care what stage of wildlife

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Speaker 1: extermination and you are at, but like, come on, dude.

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Speaker 2: But come on. So I'm just and it sucks that, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't like being put in that position. I'm getting

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Speaker 2: very good at saying no, but I don't like being

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Speaker 2: put in that position. And again, you're still not doing

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Speaker 2: the work I need. And I also now am dealing

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Speaker 2: with your stank attitude because he's been texting me and

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Speaker 2: like with eye rolling emojis, what no, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Not the yeah emojis?

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Speaker 2: Come on yeah? Because I said, I was like, he's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there tomorrow and I was like, great,

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Speaker 2: are you going to cover up the three planks on

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Speaker 2: the porch because that's what he pointed out where he

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Speaker 2: thought that might be where he's getting in And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: are you going to put the netting around that? And

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Speaker 2: he was like maybe, I don't know, let's see, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think they can get in there. He's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's where he's getting in, because then

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Speaker 2: he would have to like run down the length of

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Speaker 2: he does run, and he wrote back, well, that's something

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Speaker 2: you should have told me the first day, and then

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Speaker 2: he put the eye roll emoji. Oh, and I was

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Speaker 2: just like, why am I haying you to like get

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Speaker 2: such a fucking attitude with me.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't know what happened in this process where

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Speaker 1: the Tiger King has decided that he can talk to

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Speaker 1: you any kind of way. I I, as your friend,

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Speaker 1: do not appreciate that shit.

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Speaker 2: Come on, thank you, thank you. So I've been like

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Speaker 2: avoiding my text tonight because I'm like, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to fight with this man, and I also don't want

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Speaker 2: to give him any more money, and I don't want

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Speaker 2: to deal with this shit. Like I just want to

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Speaker 2: get rid of a squirrel. That's all I need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't want to debase the

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Speaker 1: entire profession of wildlife exterminators, but there's a moment where

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Speaker 1: I think maybe it takes a special kind of person

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Speaker 1: to be able to do something like that, and this

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Speaker 1: guy has that in spades, right.

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Speaker 2: For certain, for certain, and like the.

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Speaker 1: Thing about the roof. Shit, it's just that thing where

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Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I get that you should be blowing

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Speaker 1: leaves off and cleaning up gutter. So it's not good

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Speaker 1: to have like dry or wet leaves just hanging out

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Speaker 1: nooks and crannies. I get it. But like the job

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Speaker 1: is to get the squirrel out of my damn attic,

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Speaker 1: then the preventative measures can happen, like take it one

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Speaker 1: step at a time. And again, I'm not an exterminator.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's actually how it's done, but

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Speaker 1: feels like back to the lecture ad hand.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. This is exactly how I feel like. Granted,

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Speaker 2: I did think, for sure, let me just get through

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Speaker 2: this fall and winter, and then next year I'll get

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Speaker 2: the tools I need to do the shit I need

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Speaker 2: around this house. Yeah, and I definitely am a person

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Speaker 2: who thought leaves are just leaves. They'll just turn into soil,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, it's nature. Just I don't have to

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Speaker 2: rake them or do anything with them. Until it was

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Speaker 1: It also goes back to the inherent fucking misogyny of

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Speaker 1: They just don't know, and you know what, like, look

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Speaker 2: I don't see anything wrong with this. I see absolutely

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Speaker 1: Look, for many years I was actually a wedding DJ. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is the worst fucking job on planet Earth. I

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't care who you are. You can't get

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Speaker 1: I don't care how obscure it is. If you want

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Speaker 2: I will I will dig up any member any band

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Speaker 2: They want to hear Dexy's Midnight Runners, and.

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Speaker 1: They will get drunk and tell you to your goddamn

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I like this music, but that's seventy

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Speaker 1: the tunes. The tunes are killer, but you gotta shake

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the fucking night, and then I

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00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: pack up and I leave too unlimited.

431
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I think that's who you might be references. Oh yeah, yeah,

432
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. Sometimes you don't bring the jock

433
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: jams because you were expecting this fucking indie rock cool

434
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: couple to only want to hear blonde, redhead or whatever

435
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: the fuck, And now you're screwed.

436
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: And it's their fault and they can't yell at the

437
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: bride and groom, or I should say, they don't have

438
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: the balls to yell at the bride and groom on

439
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: their wedding day. So they're yelling at you, and you're like,

440
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: your friends pick this. Your friends who just got married,

441
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: who are over there in the corner puking, they pick this.

442
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, your daughter and or son picked to play these

443
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: obscure fucking jams. Okay, So no, I don't have Boston's

444
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: more than a feeling, that's the thing. But I learned

445
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: my lesson. So what ended up happening was, towards the

446
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: end of my career as a wedding tej I basically

447
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll pull all your fucking velvet

448
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: underground bullshit, Like I'll do all that, but let me

449
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: put an entire iPods worth of fucking jock jams. Volumes

450
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: one through eighteen uh, you know, put all the fucking

451
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: Now that's what I call music volumes one through seventy nine. Yes,

452
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: just the entire iPod of literal like party music. So

453
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't end up walking away disgraced from this fucking

454
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: wedding that I only made two hundred dollars at.

455
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so smart. But I just the fatal

456
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: mistake here is that the people getting married assumed that

457
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: this wedding was gonna be about them.

458
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

459
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: Like you want to dance to blonde redhead, you do

460
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: that in your fucking hotel room because your granddad wants

461
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: to hear fucking cold porter. This wedding is not for you.

462
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: That is really the takeaway is to all the young

463
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: folks out there that want to get married and stuff.

464
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: You think this is your wedding, but it ain't your wedding.

465
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: It's your family's wedding, plain and simple. And if you

466
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: want it to be your wedding, Elope, yes, Elope, or

467
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: courthouse it. It's the only way you're gonna get exactly

468
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: what you fucking want. And listen, if you, Elope, I

469
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: will still show up to the Vegas Chapel with my

470
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: shaw and my one drink where all the ice is

471
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: melted because I've sat there with it for four hours.

472
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: And I'll be a weird lady at that. Just call me.

473
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: I do charge more this time, But I am just

474
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: saying I will be that for you. Even if you

475
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: Elope and I.

476
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Will show up right behind Millie with a boombox and play.

477
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: You would just hear that on a loop for eight

478
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: hours at every wedding. J You're all ready for this,

479
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: and they'd be like bleeding ears, like throwing themselves on

480
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: the floor.

481
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: Listen. I could listen to sixteen whole minutes of that song.

482
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: I love it so much.

483
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: Uh but well, look, I'm sorry that you have friends

484
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: who are still getting married. I'm glad that you made

485
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: the effort. You're a better person than me. I think

486
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: I texted this to you over the weekend when you

487
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: sent me. You sent me a photo of yourself at

488
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: this wedding that was pure John Waters. I loved every

489
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: minute of it, and I was like, look, you showed up,

490
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: so you're already a better person than me, because I

491
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: would have just sent a gift and said good luck.

492
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm out.

493
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: Look you roll the dice when you invite me, because

494
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I am Queen Carlatta at the fucking shit Like, may

495
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: that be a warning for all the younger friends that

496
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: I have, just saying like, if you're ready for a

497
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: weird old lady in weird makeup there's a cigarette hanging

498
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: out of her mouth in a maxi dress, then go ahead,

499
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: send me that invite smash, that invite button, send me.

500
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: That e card. Well, speaking of younger people getting married,

501
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: our theme this week is about I think the exact

502
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: opposite thing.

503
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: Are y'all ready for this? Because I am? I am

504
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: so fucking overjoyed by this theme this week.

505
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 2: I am as well. Even just looking at the title

506
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: makes me so happy. I was so psyched to see

507
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: this coming up on our calendar.

508
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: Me too, what's our theme this week?

509
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: Our theme this week is Sundays with Granddad. Oh it's

510
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: quaint but also really fucking funny and very specific to

511
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: our experiences as people.

512
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: Well talk about it. So tell me about Sundays with Granddad.

513
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: So, my granddad, for his entire life, he basically only

514
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: took off on Sundays and it was his day to

515
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: be a full old man. So it was long walks

516
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: to the park to get away from his family, you know,

517
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: just hanging out and eating what he wanted to eat,

518
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 2: and crucially watching whatever sports game was on, and watching

519
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: WPIX and whatever Western, whatever old movie, just sitting in

520
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: front of the TV, falling asleep and commanding control of

521
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: the TV to the point where you could not change

522
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: the channel because if you changed it, he would wake

523
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: up immediately and be like, put that back on. So

524
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: you were kind of stuck with this old man TV

525
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: all day, and that was how you spend time together.

526
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: That is so fucking sweet. Like, as much as it

527
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: is hilarious that he would, even in a sleep clock

528
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: you for trying to change the channel instantly, that's so sweet.

529
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that idea. My granddad did

530
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: not watch a lot of old movies. He watched a

531
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: lot of telenovelas from the folks at Telemundo or Univision. Yeah,

532
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: he also watched a lot of soccer. He was really

533
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: into Univision, and like I remember as a child, like

534
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: he was sort of into watching the news, like the

535
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: local news and and that kind of stuff. Didn't watch

536
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: a lot of movies. But then towards the end of

537
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: their lives they were all about that Spanish language TV,

538
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: and so I would have loved to have had that

539
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: like Westerns WPX moment with my grandpa. But he was

540
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: just watching, like people have affairs.

541
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: He's like, I want to watch some people get slapped

542
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: in the faith repeatedly.

543
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: He wants to watch people having been babies secretly with priests.

544
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: That was kind of the vibe of some of these stories.

545
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: But listen, a lot of grandpas are into old movies.

546
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, why do you think I have a job.

547
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: Thank God?

548
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Well, this is the other thing. It's like, maybe your

549
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: grandpa specifically wasn't into these types of old movies, but

550
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: you have enhanced and enriched the lives of millions of

551
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: grandpas through your job. You have seen a million grandpas

552
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: and you've rocked them all.

553
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: And listen, I actually share a lot of a lot

554
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: of similarities with grandpa's in that way. A lot of

555
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: movies that I like are kind of classic grandpa cinema.

556
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: So when we were thinking about doing this theme, I

557
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, yeah, this is right.

558
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: Up my alley, absolutely, and and I had to make

559
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: the distinction of it as a grandpa movie, not necessarily

560
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: to be like overly gendered, but because as you all know,

561
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: my grandmother's movies are horror films. Yes, she takes it

562
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: a whole different direction. The only black and white western

563
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: old style movies on in my house were from him,

564
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: because she was like, let's watch Tales from the Crypt,

565
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: Like she was on a whole other level.

566
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: See. I actually during this, when I was watching your movie,

567
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I began to think, I actually don't know if Danielle's

568
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: grandma even likes old horror because there's not enough blood

569
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: and guts, like she loves the new shit.

570
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Right absolutely, Like don't give her a creature from the

571
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: Black Lagoon. Yeah, don't give her a blob. There's not

572
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: enough carnage, There's not enough blood.

573
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Right would I would think that even like a Hitchcock movie,

574
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: she'd be like, this is a fucking snooze. Where is

575
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: the Chainsaw? Revenge Killer?

576
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: And fell asleep during Vertigo like she would be when

577
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: he was watching these movies. She would be on the couch,

578
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: dead asleep, like it was nap time for both of them.

579
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: For very different reasons. My grandfather was very soothed by

580
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: these films, and she was bored out of her fucking mind.

581
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: That is so wonderful. I love that your grandma is

582
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: too hardcore for old movies. If you tell me that

583
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: you're not into old movies because they don't have enough

584
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: blood and guts, then I respect that shit beyond that.

585
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: Beyond that especially like this is something that I learned

586
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: growing up watching these movies, because the other thing that

587
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: would happen is I would come into the house after,

588
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: you know, doing whatever degenerate thing I was doing as

589
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: a child, and these movies would be on and I

590
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: just have to PLoP down in the middle of them

591
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: if I wanted to watch TV and not know what

592
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: was happening. So the psychological terror and the threat and

593
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: the suspense is some It's like a muscle that I

594
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: had to build in order to watch and appreciate these

595
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: these films. Yeah, and you know, my granddad would just

596
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, this is a good picture. Just sit

597
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: down and watch it and you'll catch on. And I'm

598
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: like will I though, but you know, part of the

599
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, learning the language of these films was part

600
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: of the joy of sitting down and watching them with him.

601
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, my grandma after fifty years

602
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: of marriage, was like, no, I never learned that language,

603
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: and he never learned mine. And great, Yeah, well, listen

604
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: and there's something so.

605
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Nostalgic about Sunday afternoon movies. Yeah, just the whole vibe

606
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: of a Sunday afternoon.

607
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it happens so infrequently now, but it is

608
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: one of the true joys of life when you have

609
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: nothing to do on a Sunday and you can just

610
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: curl up on your couch with a blanket and throw

611
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: on a movie and like drift in and out of

612
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: it and just enjoy, just stay awake the whole time

613
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: and enjoy it in a very comfortable way. It is

614
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: like a whole it's a reset for your whole system.

615
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's it's also like particularly with a Sunday

616
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: afternoon versus even like a Saturday afternoon. I was listening

617
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: to this podcast called Zen noodle Pie that is done

618
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: by a couple of people I know here in Atlanta,

619
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: and they mentioned they had a guest one time talk

620
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: about late afternoon on Sundays like early evening made them sad,

621
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: Like there's this melancholy to a late afternoon on a Sunday. Yeah,

622
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: because I guess it's like, I don't know, you just

623
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: know that you have to get up early the next day.

624
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: Is that kind of like, oh, the weekend's over, this

625
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: sucks or whatever, And so that Sunday afternoon before that

626
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: is always like I don't know this like good meaty

627
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: time to like have a moment like we're on the

628
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: couch or just like relaxing because you know that, like

629
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: it's the last day of the weekend. And I always

630
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: like that, always like stuck with me because that's kind

631
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: of how I feel. I mean, I kind of feel

632
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: that way about Sundays and the idea that it was

633
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: it would be this day where you're just sort of like,

634
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: oh God, like weekend's over now, I just have to

635
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: decompress and watching an old movie perfect.

636
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Of all the days of the week, I feel like

637
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: that's the one where I'm most likely to not know

638
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: quite what to do with myself. Yeah, Like you can't

639
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: get started on a project because you don't have enough

640
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 2: time to finish it. You gotta go to work tomorrow.

641
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Like what doing laundry? All right? Fine, I did laundry,

642
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: now what? Or like there's just there's just something about

643
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: the day where you're like, I don't know what to

644
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: do with myself in the afternoon. Ye unless you're you know,

645
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 2: my granddad and then he's like, pop on a movie

646
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: and go to sleep. That's what you can do. And

647
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: that's always a good idea.

648
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's also like Saturdays are always like very

649
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: like chaotic with like events, and also they play a

650
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of sports on Saturday, so Sunday is like the

651
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: chill day. And so yeah, I just love that that's

652
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: your granddad's day.

653
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: You know, when I watch movies on Saturday afternoons, I

654
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: feel like I'm depressed, yes, But when I watch a

655
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: movie on a Sunday afternoon, I'm like, oh, I'm relaxing.

656
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't know why the twenty four hour difference matters.

657
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Yes, like it's it's almost like it's allowed on a

658
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, but a Saturday afternoon, if you're in the

659
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: house watching a movie, somebody's shaking their finger at you,

660
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: being like you're lazy as fuck. You should be like doing.

661
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Yard work or you know, running errands, so you should

662
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: be blowing leaves away from your foundation.

663
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Well, well, hey, I think you're going first

664
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: this week.

665
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: I am, indeed, and I cannot wait. So the movie

666
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: that I chose for our theme of Sundays with Granddad

667
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: was released in nineteen sixty two. It was directed by

668
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: Jay Lee Thompson and written by James R. Webb, who

669
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: based it on a novel by John MacDonald called The Executioners.

670
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 2: And my movie is Cape Fear.

671
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: Cape Fear, starring Gregory Peck, Robert Mitchum, Polly Bergen, Cape

672
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 3: Fear the screen's most terrifying war of nerves.

673
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: Give me that spooky soundtrack. I love the soundtrack to

674
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: this film. It's just like, oh yeah, oh so creepy.

675
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Bernard Herrman is that who did it? Yeah? Yeah, oh

676
00:35:59,680 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: got it.

677
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: I love it so much. And they kept it when

678
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: they redid when they remade this movie with Robert de Niro,

679
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: they'd kept the soundtrack and love. I appreciated that. But

680
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: we're not going to talk about that remake right now

681
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: because I want to keep it focused on the Sundays

682
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: We're Ramps. So let me first start by saying that

683
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: this cast is a knockout cast. You've got Gregory Peck,

684
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: who is everyone's crush, Robert Mitcham, Polly Bergen, Laurie Martin,

685
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: Telly Savalas. I mean, it is just an incredible cast.

686
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: So knowing that who's in this film, I'm going to

687
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: give you the one sentenced synopsis and see if you

688
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: can pick out who I'm talking about. A recently released

689
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: rapist with eyes like two puckered buttholes terrorizes a high assed,

690
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: long legged attorney's family after the attorney witnessed him committing

691
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: the crime that put him in jail for eight years.

692
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: And let me just say that high ass is a

693
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: freeze that I recently picked up from my friend Matt Fraction.

694
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: But it is applicable.

695
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Okay, now you've put it into my fucking brain that

696
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: Robert Mitcham's eyes look like buttholes.

697
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Two puckered buttholes. Look, I'm not saying the dude isn't handsome.

698
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying those eyes are creepy eyes, and I

699
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: think they helped him get a lot of these creepy rolls.

700
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: At bare minimum, he always had high eyes. So there

701
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: you go.

702
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, if I was being kind and not a jerk,

703
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: and my apologies to the Mitcham family.

704
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Your granddad had butthole eyes. Sorry about it.

705
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Can we throw that into a rap at any point

706
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: in our lives. I just want to hear eminem say

707
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: your granddad had buttle but I feel like he is

708
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: very If I was being a better if I was

709
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: a better person, I would have said he is very

710
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: sleepy eyes, gorgeous, twinkling sleepy eyes, and Gregory Peck. His

711
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: ass is so high off the ground that when he

712
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: stands next to the girl who's supposed to be his

713
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: daughter in the film, the bottom of his ass hits

714
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: the top of her head.

715
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to ask you a little bit. Well,

716
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: I got two questions for you right off the path.

717
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: What's wrong with me that daughter? When at the very beginning,

718
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: the daughter shows up and she meets up with Gregory Peck,

719
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: I was like, how tidy is this girl? Or how

720
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: huge is Gregory Peck? Like I could not decide.

721
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: I couldn't decide. I don't know how old she's supposed

722
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: to be because there's one scene where she gets into

723
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: a car and then she slides behind the wheel and

724
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: turns the key as if she's gonna drive it. But

725
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: then she runs into school and it's like a grade school. Yes,

726
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: like this is she's the ultimate confuser.

727
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

728
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: He's clearly very tall, but she was very confusing to

729
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: me in terms of her age and size.

730
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Yes, she looked positively tiny next to her dad, who

731
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: could either be seventy four feet tall. We don't know,

732
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: we don't know. But that leads me to my second question,

733
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: which is, what are you I know you don't want

734
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: to talk about horny stuff on this podcast, but I

735
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: have to ask you thoughts on Gregory Peck in terms

736
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: of attractiveness.

737
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Gregory Peck, I would destroy that dick before has that

738
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: sentence been uttered? And again, my apologies to the Peck family,

739
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: my apologies to literally every one family who has an actor.

740
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: In this film. Look, I would ruin that dick. Listen,

741
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: I once talked about Jimmy Stewart's boner, so I feel

742
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: like you could say that about Gregory Peck. However, I

743
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: don't know why I expected you to not say that.

744
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

745
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: Who antal flaw.

746
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: You know me, you've met me. What else am I

747
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: gonna say? Like? I'd have tea with him and shake

748
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: his hand and send him on his way. Absolutely no,

749
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: I would ruin that man's life, would ruin his life.

750
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: Holy shit, Like I am legit surprised at that answer.

751
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: I am delighted by that answer. Delighted because you are right,

752
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: there are people who I'm every how I say this

753
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: to somebody. I pose this question to people, would you

754
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: hit Gregory Pack? Okay? Because he's so revered for playing

755
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: like Atticus Finch and all these like important sort of

756
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: like you know, he's like the moral center of him,

757
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: like he's he's got gravitas. He comes in, he's got

758
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: the presence and the voice and everything, and you forget

759
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: that he can also be kind of attractive sometimes. So

760
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm always like, is it like you know which It's

761
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: almost like asking would you fuck Abe Lincoln? It's the

762
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: same question, right, So I'm actually delighted about you saying

763
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: that about Gregory Peck. It's so fucking great.

764
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: I feel like he was probably a stone freak in

765
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: the bedroom. You can moral center it on film all

766
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: you want, just going from personal experience having boned the

767
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: quiet dude that was like a normal nice guy freaking

768
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: the sheets.

769
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely fucking valid. I love it.

770
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: But I think Gregory Peck is fantastic. He is definitely

771
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: just so so revered, like you said in film, He's

772
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: an incredible career, an incredible actor. I'm definitely trying to

773
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: like wheel this back to normal territory after I said

774
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: I would destroy his dick. He has incredible in this

775
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: film for a few different reasons. But I want to

776
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: back it up first and talk about Robert Mitcham who

777
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: plays Max Katie, this violent ex khan who is singularly

778
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: focused on terrorizing this family, and he is so smooth

779
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: about how he works into like he works the system

780
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: to get back at them. So he's kind of like,

781
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, the beginning of the film, he shows up

782
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: and he's like, you don't remember me, do you? And

783
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: Gregory Peck who plays Sam Boden, is like, I actually

784
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: do not. I am a lawyer. I see many people

785
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: throughout my life and good day, sir. But he explains, like.

786
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: You know you.

787
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: And this is what I think is so cool about

788
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: this story too. Sam Boden didn't put Max Katy in

789
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: prison as a lawyer. He witnessed Katie attacking a woman

790
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: and was a witness, and his witness testimonies will put

791
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: him in jail, right, So I think that's pretty cool,

792
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: and like Max Katy does not, Max Katie is like,

793
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: fuck you. I spent eight years in jail basically thinking

794
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: about how I'm going to put all of my energy

795
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: into you were the person who put me in jail.

796
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to consider my own stake in this,

797
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: my own actions. And so he gets out and immediately

798
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: comes down to Georgia and is like, hey, I'm going

799
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: to be in your life basically, and Max Katy is

800
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: just so oh again, he's smooth, but he's creepy. He

801
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: will he sucks in his stomach so much in this movie.

802
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: I noticed that too.

803
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: There is a scene where they arrest him because Sam

804
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Boden's like, Yo, this dude keeps showing up. What can

805
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: I do? And the chief of police is like, we

806
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: got this. We'll pick him up for vagrancy or like

807
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: whatever bullshit nineteen fifties sixties rule they had back then

808
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: where they were like, we don't like you, We're gonna

809
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: make up a law. So they pick them up and

810
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: they make them get undressed, and he spends like the

811
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: entire scene sucking in his stomach, and it is so distracting, yes,

812
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: because I'm like, you don't have to have that low

813
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: of a self esteem, dude, you look fine. I know.

814
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: I was like, is he trying to pull some like

815
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Bert Lancaster shit with like you know, it's like the

816
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: inverted triangle of like the broad shoulders and the tiny waist.

817
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Mitcham, like yeah, we don't.

818
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: Need the jaqueline of it, Like put the Jack Lilane away.

819
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: It's fine, you have a perfectly normal body.

820
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: But he's sucking it in and he's you know, kind

821
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: of like you know, he's he's drinking all over town.

822
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: And but again, like he hires his own attorney and

823
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: they try to get him for not having enough money

824
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: because he only has seven dollars in his pocket and

825
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 2: he's like check that bank account again, and they check

826
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: his bank book and it's like, oh shit, he's got

827
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars because he sold a farm. So he's

828
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: really working it in order to be in this position

829
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: where he can terrorize Sam Bowden and his family. He

830
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: takes a break, a mild break between terrorizing Sam and

831
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: his family, to rape and assault a woman named Diane,

832
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: and it is still it's such a hard scene to watch.

833
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: Barry Chase plays Diane Taylor and she's kind of into him.

834
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: He sees her at a bar and he's like, I'm

835
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: gonna give you an hour to get rid of your friends,

836
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: and she what she likes about him in the car

837
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: she says, you know, Max, Katie, you are rock bottom,

838
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: and so she's kind of into his rough and tumbleness

839
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: without realizing that he's not just rough and tumble. He's

840
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: a violent ex con. He's a violent x con. So

841
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: he assaults her, and the sadness of that scene for

842
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: me is so And it's been that way since the

843
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: first time I saw the movie, where it's like, you know,

844
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: she is like, I can't testify. I can't say anything

845
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: about this because I don't want people to know that

846
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: this happened to me. She's like, you know, I'm someone's daughter.

847
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: You know, I'm someone's sister, and I don't want to

848
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: read about myself in the papers. And this is one

849
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: of those moments where I would be watching movies like

850
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: this with my granddad and he would look at me

851
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: and be like, if anyone ever puts a hand on you,

852
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: you better cut him the fuck up. Like that's him

853
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: and my grandma both are just like, how about you

854
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: slice someone to ribbons? And I'm like, what is wrong

855
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: with you? But he used moments like this in these

856
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: films to like talk about life lessons in a way,

857
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: and you know, especially when I was really young and

858
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: I'd be like, well, what happened to her? And you know,

859
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: he would tell me in the little kid way, and

860
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: then as I got older, he would explain it in

861
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: like the adult way. But we kind of had like

862
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: really good talks about life that came out of watching

863
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: movies like this. So this scene was like very sad,

864
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: but it also reminded me of like actually sitting down

865
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: and talking with my granddad about you know, life, and

866
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: so I it's very weird, weird and pleasant memory of

867
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: It's such a horrible, horrible thing. So Max is still

868
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: terrorizing this family. He poisoned their dog, Marilyn Marilyn ps

869
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: a great dog's.

870
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Name, best dog's name and bombed. The dog dies by

871
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: the way.

872
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: So bummed. Marilyn was not long for this world or

873
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: this film. Poisoned by Strych Night and they had like

874
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: the foam around her mouth. It was like so fake

875
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: and weird, but like it just was so sad to

876
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: see the little dog poison fake died and died, like

877
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: it's like no hope, no hope. And to see Gregory

878
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: Peck just pick that dog up and climb in the

879
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: back of a car with it, like fold himself in half.

880
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Bet you you got going there that part, and I

881
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: bet you you were like, damn, look at that ass.

882
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. If you could pick up that dog,

883
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: he could pick me up. His ass like hits the

884
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: roof of the car. Let's go.

885
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: I just want to spend the rest of this podcast

886
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: objectifying Gregory Peck.

887
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: Deal and by the rest of the podcast, I hope

888
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: you mean the rest of every single episode of this

889
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: podcast that we ever produce.

890
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: Uh, That's exactly what I meant.

891
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: We are changing the focus and the name of this

892
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: podcast to objectifying Gregory Peck. We will slowly go through

893
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: all of his films. So he takes his high ass

894
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: and puts it in the car. The dog's dead, and

895
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, he hires a private eye, and

896
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: the private eye is like, yeah, this dude's the worst.

897
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: Max Katie follows Nancy. He walks very slowly towards her

898
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: in this car scene where she just gets out of

899
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: school and sits in the car and later you realize

900
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: her mom was shopping and was supposed to be picking

901
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: her up, but he's just kind of like walking slowly

902
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: towards her, and she decides to leave the car ps

903
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: leaving the door wide open, which I get it, you

904
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: feel like you're running for your life. But like, this

905
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: is why I think she can't be She has to

906
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: be a little kid, because little kids do that, like

907
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: an actual adult would still close the door.

908
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Yes, still a lot clear about how old this child is,

909
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: no clue.

910
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: And then she runs into the boiler room of her school,

911
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: which is like, homie, don't pin yourself in a corner

912
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: like that. And then she escapes out of a window

913
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: and runs in front of a car like he literally

914
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: didn't touch her, and she terrorized herself into running in

915
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: front of a car. It's creepy. That's the extent of

916
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: his creepiness in this film, is that, Like he is terrifying. Yeah,

917
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: So after his kid gets hit by a car, Sam

918
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: decides like, I'm going to hire these three men to

919
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: kill Katie. Totally doesn't work. He beats all the guys up,

920
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: and so Sam is like, oh, well, if they can't

921
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: kill him, let's kill him ourselves. And then DMX What's

922
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: my Name? Starts playing and Sam grabs a gun, and

923
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: that's this whole plan, this very elaborate plan to pretend

924
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: to leave town while his wife and daughter are alone

925
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: on a houseboat in Cape Fear, and then all help

926
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 2: breaks loose.

927
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh lord does it?

928
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: All hell breaks loose? I fucking love this movie. It

929
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: is so good and suspenseful. Even if you've seen it

930
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: eighteen times, it is still scary in the exact same places.

931
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: When Robert Mitcham is swimming through the water like a

932
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: fucking crocodile, it freaks me the fuck out. Yes, he

933
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: gets out of the water and sucks that stomach in

934
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: and then gets about his business.

935
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: Sucking his stomach.

936
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: It's so distracting. Totally, totally, but this is this is

937
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: a It's one of those movies that truly, like, my

938
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: granddad loved and he instilled his love of this this

939
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: type of film in me. And I remember watching the

940
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Cape Fear remake when it came out. We rented it,

941
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: and he never liked the remakes. He always said the

942
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: original is better. But it was just kind of cool

943
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: and fun to have so many there's so many films

944
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: that just evoke that feeling of like I'm hanging out

945
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: with my granddad, And that was the true joy of

946
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: that time, is that, you know, we built a very

947
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: lasting connection through film, and whenever I want to feel

948
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: like I'm hanging out with my granddad. I can just

949
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: watch watch a movie like this, Dude.

950
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: I had not seen this movie in forever, and it

951
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: was so fun to watch. I forgot that Robert Mitcham

952
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: sucked his stomach in so much that was truly distracting

953
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: for me. Like I was like, damn, guy, Like, it's

954
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: totally fine. You can remain shirtless without giving the illusion

955
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: that you have a twenty four inch waist. It's totally fine.

956
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: Also too, Polly Bergen is a boss. I don't know

957
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: if if anybody knows about her totally. She is so awesome.

958
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: She was so awesome. She's since passed, but you know,

959
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: she was a fucking cool lady feminist, abortion rights activist. Like, yes,

960
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: she played the first female president. Technically she was in

961
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: a movie called Kisses from My President and she played

962
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: the president, so that's cool. But she's she's awesome. Lated,

963
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: She's incredible in this movie.

964
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely incredible and like fierce and strong and will not

965
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: take any shit, but also very protective and loving. And

966
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: I just loved her whole energy in this movie. And

967
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: you're right, like she acted basically up until the time

968
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: that she died. She was in an episode of The Sopranos,

969
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: Like she really had a very wide and storied career

970
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: and did musicals and you know, was just and gorgeous,

971
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: like just gorgeous face, absolutely beautiful. Yeah.

972
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: There's also like lots of stories too about the scene

973
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: the egg scene from Katee fear about her and Robert Mitchum,

974
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, where he basically terrorizes her and smears the

975
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: egg all over her chest. Apparently all of that was

976
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: improvised and she had no idea what was happening, and

977
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: they were both just like really in the moment as actors,

978
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: and she was like after it was over, he basically

979
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: like went up to her and was like, dude, I

980
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: was in the moment. I'm so sorry. I hope you're okay,

981
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: like you know, don't hate me. And he was apparently

982
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: very apologetic for doing it because it was like a

983
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: total surprise, I don't think, like and I tried to

984
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: watch that knowing it this time, like I was like, oh,

985
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: I want to watch her face to see like how

986
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: she reacts when this fucking madiac smashes an egg in

987
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: his hand and then oh my smears it on her chest,

988
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: like you could kind of tell like it, I don't know,

989
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not projecting. I was like, oh,

990
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I think that's actual fear in her eyes.

991
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and who wouldn't have actual fear at that point?

992
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: It was truly terrifying. And then everything that happens after

993
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: is also really scary. Yeah. And you know, I just

994
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: she played that role to an absolute tea and even Nancy,

995
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: Like I don't understand Nancy uh in terms of how

996
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: old she's supposed to be or her size, but the

997
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: fear that Lorie Martin portrays in the film is incredible.

998
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: It's like this is and this is one of those

999
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: films too that when it was released, the director, Jaylee

1000
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: Thompson is British, and the film got like X ratings,

1001
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: and it was because the theme of the movie was

1002
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: this continued sexual threat against a child. It was kind

1003
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: of an intensely censored film. Yeah, and you know, I

1004
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: think that, you know, I think about all that they

1005
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: must have cut to even get to this point where

1006
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: they're still able to portray such fear, and I just

1007
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: really I'm just I think the cast is incredible to

1008
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: be able to do that.

1009
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1010
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: Also, I would be remiss if I didn't mention craggy

1011
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: Hot Royalty. Martin Balsom, who plays the police chief, just.

1012
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: Say there he is.

1013
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: Those hair are we forearms? You got? You gotta point

1014
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: him out when you see him.

1015
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: He plays police Chief Mark Dutton, and Mark Dutton sucks.

1016
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: He has like this very casual news hanging in his garage.

1017
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that I didn't love.

1018
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: And he's always trying to find like like we can

1019
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: find legal ways to convince him to leave, Like he's

1020
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: trying to game the system in a way that you

1021
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: know he's he was like the proto lapd and he sucked,

1022
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: but craggy hot, But.

1023
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: We respect a craggy hot master working at his craft.

1024
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: Look, we've got this movie has everything. You've got, Craggy Hot.

1025
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: You've got two puckered buttthhole eyes and a high ass,

1026
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: long legged man who's dick I would destroy.

1027
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: I am still shook by that shocking confession. And I

1028
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: love that you picked this movie. Oh so good.

1029
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: Well I love your pick as well.

1030
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: Oh god. So My movie is a film from nineteen

1031
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: forty eight. It was based on a novel of the

1032
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: same name written by B. Travin, directed by John Houston,

1033
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: and it's the treasure of the Sierra Madre.

1034
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: These are the men who tried to tap the treasure

1035
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: of the Sierra Madre. Men with an oath on their

1036
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: lips and muscles in our arms, but men with greed

1037
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 3: in our hearts, ready to break their backs to sell

1038
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: their very souls for gold.

1039
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: So first off, I'd like to refer you to episode

1040
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: thirty nine, where we discussed movies about sports, but not

1041
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: really I talked about the movie Fat City. So I'm

1042
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: referring you to that episode for two reasons. Actually, one

1043
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: because I talked about John Houston, the director of this film,

1044
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: and sort of talk about his recurring theme of the

1045
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: doomed Journey as I think I talked about, and since

1046
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: I did that in that episode, I'm not gonna go

1047
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: too crazy about it in this one. But the other

1048
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: reason I refer you to episode thirty nine is because

1049
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: Danielle makes this joke about the Treasure of the Sierra

1050
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: Madre being the granddad movie to end all granddad movies,

1051
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: and in my professional experience, she is right.

1052
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 4: It is.

1053
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: This is a movie. Every time it comes on TCM

1054
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: or any other channel, people pop in the DVD whatever

1055
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: it is. You can hear the canes drop, yes, across

1056
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: the country, across the nation.

1057
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: And my canes, yeah, because I think that was where

1058
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: it came from. Was and I was like, oh, I

1059
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: love that movie too, me and me and all your grandpa's.

1060
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, this movie has a lot of

1061
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: grandpa bait, not gonna lie. It's got a black and

1062
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: white movie that takes place in the quote unquote Old West,

1063
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: featuring Hollywood legend humh Bogart. You got not one, but

1064
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: two members of the great Houston Family, the dynasty.

1065
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: The best rat actor dynasty ever ever.

1066
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: And you know, listen, this movie is a giant allegory

1067
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, which may be the

1068
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: reason why Grandpa's also like it. But also it leads

1069
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: me to my one sentenced synopsis of the Treasure of

1070
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: this Sierra Madre, and it is this, Yes, Grandpa's got

1071
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: a lesson for you, and it is that if you

1072
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: ever find yourself in Mexico with three down on their luck,

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: men who have absolutely nothing to lose, do not do

1074
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: gold prospecting in a champagne tizzy.

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Speaker 2: A that is masterful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I figured you'd like that one. Oh my god,

1077
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: So like I said, the star of this film is

1078
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: Humphrey Bogart, and at this time, in nineteen forty eight,

1079
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: he was at the height of his fame. This was

1080
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: post Casablanca and all of the Bogey and Baccall movies

1081
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: he did. And he's playing way against type in the

1082
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Okay, he's playing a man

1083
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: named Fred Dobbs. He's an American who's living in Tampico, Mexico,

1084
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: and look like a lot of the guys that we

1085
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: talked about in Fat City. Dobbs is like unemployed, he's

1086
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: barely scraping together enough money from begging on the street,

1087
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: and he is real surly, like just a mead motherfucker Dobbs.

1088
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: Bogart starts this movie looking like a Williamsburg barista, and

1089
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: he ends this movie looking like a Wayward Ave brother.

1090
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: Wayward of he looks like teen wolf at the end

1091
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 4: of this movie. Listen, they all do. But they all

1092
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: look crazy at the end of this film, which I

1093
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: sort of appreciate. But I'm gonna sub it up just

1094
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 4: very simply.

1095
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: It's that in the first ten minutes of this movie,

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: Dobbs proves that he is the kind of guy who

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: will throw a glass of water in a little boy's face.

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: A like, to be fair, he warned that kid still

1099
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: but he will follow through. And this is this is

1100
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: That was a tough moment because you're like, this is

1101
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: a little kid who is smoking cigarettes from the street

1102
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: and gambling. He's smoking cigarettes that have been tossed to

1103
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: the ground and running a lotto scam. And Bogart's like,

1104
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: I will fucking throw water in your face if you

1105
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: don't get away from me.

1106
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, look, even though the little kid is actually

1107
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: played by a young Robert Blake, I don't know if

1108
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people know that. Even if that is

1109
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: the case, which it is, the fact that this grown

1110
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: man throws water in this kid's fucking face is bold,

1111
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: I have to.

1112
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: Say, permanently endeared himself to me in that role. I

1113
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: bet this movie was like top ten instantly where I'm like,

1114
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: this movie does not fuck around.

1115
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: That is the type of dude Dobbs's. And here's the thing.

1116
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: He's periodically running into this other American guy around town.

1117
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: And this other American guy is basically doing the same thing.

1118
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: All right, He's a guy that's down on his luck,

1119
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: no job. It's a guy named Bob Curtin, and he's

1120
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: played by an actor named Tim Holt. And I gotta

1121
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: pause for just a moment to talk about Tim Holt,

1122
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: because I feel like he is often overshadowed by the

1123
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: other two stars in this film, right. Tim Holt was

1124
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: a star of b westerns, mostly in the forties and fifties,

1125
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: so he would appear in non be westerns once in

1126
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: a while, most notably in The Magnificent Amberson's, which is

1127
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: probably his other most famous role besides this one. But

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01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: as Bob Curtin, Tim Holt is fucking great. He spends

1129
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: the entire movie looking like a skanky rat, but he's

1130
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: also kind of beefy, just kind of as like beefy

1131
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: little hotty. I don't know. I mean, I know we

1132
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: just sat there and objectified Gregory Peck, But maybe I'm

1133
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: just trying to tell you.

1134
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 2: Trying to balance the scales. It's cool, we got a beefy,

1135
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: skanky rat. It's fine. You gotta balance it out with

1136
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 2: the high ass long legged attorney where it works.

1137
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying he's a beefy little hotty who

1138
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of looks nasty, but I'd still hit I just

1139
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: listen Grandpa's would never discuss this with you, So thank

1140
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: god I am here to talk about how hot Bob

1141
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: Curtin is.

1142
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: Okay. Also, that is my bumble profile, A skanky little rat, hoty, beefy,

1143
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: little hoty. I'm gonna start referring to myself as beefy.

1144
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 2: I just want to know, like how that's gonna land

1145
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: with people.

1146
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: I love beefy. It's a great adjective. I love it

1147
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: so much. I love describing people as beefy.

1148
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: And I like it more than overweight, Like I'm not overweight,

1149
01:02:58,840 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm beefy.

1150
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, beefy is good, substantial. It's like brisket, like beefy.

1151
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: All right, So dobbson curtain. Okay, they're broke. They're at

1152
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: a shelter after getting screwed over by a day laborer

1153
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: job that they both took, and they overhear this older

1154
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: man next to them talking about mining for gold in

1155
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: the mountain range nearby. The older man is named Howard

1156
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: and he is played by Walter Houston aka John Houston's father,

1157
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: henceforth the Houston Dynasty of Rat actors. Okay, now listen,

1158
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: if you only remember Walter Houston from Dodsworth or something.

1159
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: Just imagine the complete opposite of that guy. Okay, In

1160
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: the Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Walter Houston is basically

1161
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: a clip art image of a grizzled crazy prospector in

1162
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: human force. I mean, that's it. He's got the he's

1163
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: got the maniacal laugh. He does a little gangle jangle

1164
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: dance when he's calling a dummyck.

1165
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: He is the archetype of that cartoon I'm never recovering

1166
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 4: from clip art version of a prospector.

1167
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: Listen, if you simply type in crazy prospector clip art

1168
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: into Google, you will find exactly what I'm looking for.

1169
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: This is Walter Houston's character in a nutshell in this film.

1170
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: And here's the thing about Howard. He's got a very

1171
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: zen approach to this gold shit. I mean, he's a

1172
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: wise old man. He knows a few things about mine

1173
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: and for gold, and he's kind of in parting a

1174
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: bunch of wisdom to whoever's listening. And Curtain Dobbs are

1175
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: listening to him, and they're looking at each other like, well, shit,

1176
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing in Tampico? We need

1177
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: to go up that mountain and get this gold. And hey,

1178
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: let's bring this old guy, because he seems to know

1179
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: what's up. And also he keeps telling us that when

1180
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: people find gold, they get really greedy, and then when

1181
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: they get greedy they turn into stone cold fucking maniacs.

1182
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: But forget all that. Let's just give me that shovel.

1183
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: Let's hit the road right.

1184
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: Oh god, he's like, so totally Chekhov's gun. Like, I

1185
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: don't know. People find gold and they go a little wacky,

1186
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: and they're like, we give zero fucks, let's go march, march, march,

1187
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: get some donkeys exactly.

1188
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: So they scrap together the money for the donkeys and

1189
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: the supplies that they need to mine for gold, and

1190
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: they go out on this journey through the mountains, and

1191
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: of course, wouldn't you know, Dobbs and Curtain are complaining

1192
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: on the first damn day, and when it comes down

1193
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: to it, it's mostly Dobs and he is already like,

1194
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: it's too hot, where's the gold? Already? I can't walk

1195
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: this much? Blah blah blah. Mean, he's just fucking complaining.

1196
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Howard is scaling the mountain like fucking mystique from

1197
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: X Men.

1198
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't need any water. He's running laps around these

1199
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: fucking young bouck that mountain like a fucking iguana. Well

1200
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,479
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It doesn't take too long, but after

1201
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: a while they start finding some gold, and then, of course,

1202
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: as we always say on this podcast, all hell breaks loose,

1203
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: all right, truly, because once they start finding this gold,

1204
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: they start worrying about all the ways they can get

1205
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: fucked over. Okay, especially Doobs. Okay, we already know he

1206
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: is a motherfucker, right, but he doubles down on that

1207
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: by being one hundred percent high key paranoid freak. Like

1208
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: he's talking himself. He's convinced himself that Howard and Curtin

1209
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: are sus and they are just waiting for him to

1210
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: turn his back so they can kill him and steals gold.

1211
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: And he thinks all of this even though Curtin is

1212
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: out there saved his damn life not once but twice,

1213
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: and Howard.

1214
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: Is out there being like, hey, we can just split

1215
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: it three ways every time we find gold, so that,

1216
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, everyone just carries their own share, nobody has

1217
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: to worry about it.

1218
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Howard's got like I said, he's he's been around

1219
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: the block. He's he's got a very chill z attitude

1220
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: about finding gold. Meanwhile, Dobbs is freaking the fuck out

1221
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: at every moment. I mean, imagine, imagine feeling like you

1222
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: still got to pull a gun on someone who has

1223
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: dragged you out of a mine that has collapsed on

1224
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: your head and has saved you from getting your hand

1225
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: eaten off by a goddamn Gila monster. Like Dobbs is

1226
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: still like, yo, I got to sleep with one eye

1227
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: open on this guy. He saved my life two times.

1228
01:07:59,320 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean.

1229
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do to convince me that this

1230
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: man doesn't trying to get my gold.

1231
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it's crazy. And for the rest of the movie,

1232
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: after they find this gold, you just start to see

1233
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: how each of these guys are gonna face all of

1234
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: the moral dilemmas that get thrown at them on this journey. Okay,

1235
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: because it's not just blind collapses and Gila monsters. Okay,

1236
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: there's encounters with real nosy dudes from the town that

1237
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: are like, what's up, where you going, which you do,

1238
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: and who you know? And it's like, mind your own

1239
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: fucking business, dude, what the fuck? I'm just getting some corn,

1240
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: Like why got to ask where I've been? Right? You

1241
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: got violent bandits, all right, those bandits who have given

1242
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 1: us all the line of we don't need no stinking badges,

1243
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: which isn't actually what he says, but ye, you know,

1244
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: we've bastardized that line from this movie for so long

1245
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: I can barely remember where it came from.

1246
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: I blame Troop Beverly Hills.

1247
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: Yes, but the movie becomes this big game of like

1248
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: who's gonna blow it, Who's gonna blow this endeavor? And

1249
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: the allegory of it is just how these three men

1250
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: individually handle this doom journey. It's an impossible quest. It's

1251
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: a doom journey, as we have mentioned in episode thirty

1252
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: nine about Fat City, and the movie also is just

1253
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: always asking a question like what kind of person would

1254
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: you become if you suddenly struck it rich? Are you

1255
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: a Dobbs? Are you a curtain? Are you Howard? Who's

1256
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: just kind of hovering over it all being zen and chill.

1257
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: And I think that that is a common element of

1258
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: Westerns that they just end up being kind of about

1259
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: the big morality questions. And honestly, I think that's why

1260
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: Grandpa's loved them so.

1261
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: Much, right absolutely, because they're like, it's all laid out

1262
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: right here for you. You just have to choose, and

1263
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: you get to see all of humanity large in these characters.

1264
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: Right. And of course I am not giving you the

1265
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: ending of the Treasure of the Sarah Madre. Are you joking?

1266
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: Never gonna do that because you all need to watch

1267
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 1: this movie so good. With grandpa's or without grandpa's it

1268
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

1269
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 2: Just like that that episode, I forget what episode it

1270
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: was where we said sometimes you have to be your

1271
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: own cool brother. Sometimes you have to be your own

1272
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,839
Speaker 2: cool grandpa. Yes, like watch this movie exactly.

1273
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: And despite all of the I roll emojis that you

1274
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: might be feeling about watching something like The Treasure of

1275
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: the Sarah Matre, honestly like watch it because it is

1276
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: there is an element of the movie that is like

1277
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: really interesting. Like there is the question of like how

1278
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: is this going to shake out? Like here's this thing

1279
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: that they're all involved in, and they all are broke

1280
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: and they all want money, but then they have to

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Speaker 1: be wary of other things and other people. And if

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Speaker 1: they go in this direction, it's gonna not be good

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Speaker 1: for them. And if they go in this other direction,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna compromise something else. So it's kind of that.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a choose your own adventure type

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Speaker 1: film in that way. And I actually think it's a

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Speaker 1: great film. I think it is absolutely deserving of the

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Speaker 1: praise that it's gotten. I mean, it's like one of

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Speaker 1: those quote unquote classic important films, and I think it

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Speaker 1: deserves it, to be honest. But listen, I love this film.

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Speaker 1: I stand united with all the grandpas across the world

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Speaker 1: who also love this movie. I salute you, I see you.

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Speaker 2: I just want to know if we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the scene where Howard heals a child with tequila. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Look, I was wondering whether or not to bring this

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Speaker 1: up because I was basically like, there's a lot going

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Speaker 1: on in these scenes.

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Speaker 2: We must bring up the fact that this man uses

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Speaker 2: calisthenics and tequila to bring a child back from the dead.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he uh slaps, slaps the belly a little bit,

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Speaker 1: pours some tequila down this poor baby's throat, and suddenly

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Speaker 1: he's a god. And even Howard himself is like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what just happened back there, but I

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Speaker 1: guess if they think it's magical, I'm gonna let him

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Speaker 1: think that he's.

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Speaker 2: Like, I thumped on these palms a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: I raised these arms up and down, and then I

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01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: just rubbed some tequila on his gums. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what you want for me.

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Speaker 1: Listen. The actual scene is pretty touch and go. But

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Speaker 1: then when you step back and you're like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: did he just like pump that little baby full of tequila?

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Speaker 2: And now he's fine?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess that's how he does his thing.

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Speaker 2: Just an incredible movie. It is the gift that keeps

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Speaker 2: on giving, and I completely agree with you. It is

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Speaker 2: a classic for many reasons that the large the larger

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Speaker 2: theme of life that it portrays. But sometimes you just

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Speaker 2: have to be in it for watching a kid get

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Speaker 2: pumped full of tequila as a life saving device.

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Speaker 1: And look, if you only know Humphrey Bogart has being

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Speaker 1: this like, you know, kind of like romantic leading man.

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Speaker 1: There are a couple times where he's played a motherfucker

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Speaker 1: and this is definitely one of them. And it's a joy.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's a joy to watch because he is nasty.

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01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: He is physically nasty. He looks like shit by the

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Speaker 1: end of this film. They all do, but he is

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Speaker 1: he's fucking nuts in this movie. It's kind of great.

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Speaker 2: I genuinely had to look up pictures of him from

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Speaker 2: like his more suave roles after this, because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe that this man was a sex symbol.

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Speaker 2: He looked like a feral mountain goat, had like bread

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Speaker 2: with a dust storm.

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Speaker 1: Look all I ask is that you give Tim Holt

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Speaker 1: in this film another look, Sie, because dare I say

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a dream guy. Beefee, little Haughtie always

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Speaker 1: is trying to live a somewhat righteous life, you know.

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Speaker 1: He all he wants to do is he wants to

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Speaker 1: start a peach farm with his money. He just wants

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Speaker 1: to grow peaches. And you gotta love a guy that

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Speaker 1: has the goal of that.

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Speaker 2: Right, Beautiful, I'm so glad you picked this. Thank you

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01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: for picking this and this this episode I feel like

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: is on the heels of our one year anniversary. I

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Speaker 2: have to say, this is exactly why we do this podcast,

1346
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: is to make each other laugh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ever ever gonna not laugh

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: thinking about you and Gregory Pack.

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Speaker 2: I just can't.

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Speaker 1: I was that is a moment that was truly shocking.

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: That was a true shocking moment that I reacted in

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: a very authentic way, and I'm never gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to forget it. But I'm so glad that you revealed it.

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Speaker 1: It's just exactly the reason why I love doing this

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01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: podcast with you. This is so fun and this episode

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Speaker 1: was super great. I mean, it's like, we got to

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01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: hear a little bit about your granddad and we got

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: to hear a little bit about Gregory Peck's ass. What

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Speaker 1: more can you ask for?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you tell these folks the movies that we

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Speaker 2: have picked out for next week?

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, I don't even know. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how to say this. Oh God, the movies for next

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Speaker 1: week's episode are so fucking good. We've got set it

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Speaker 1: Off from nineteen ninety six and Thelma and Louise from

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Dam dude, guess that theme. There's so many possibilities, all killer,

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Speaker 2: no filler.

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Speaker 1: You gotta love it. Listen. If you want to email

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Speaker 1: awesome letters from you guys. It's a blast, so please

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Speaker 1: check those out if you haven't already. And look, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to sleep tonight, but Danielle, it's

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Speaker 1: been a pleasure as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, same, same, same. I will go to any

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Speaker 2: wedding with you and get my jock jams ready.

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Speaker 1: Oh I appreciate that. Sheck girl, all right, see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Bye.

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Speaker 2: Alexis Amerisi. Our engineers Analise Nelson. Our theme songs by

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Speaker 2: Tom bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers

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