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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, I fucking love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: I'll hear that both the.

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Speaker 4: Next time, Big John, the Cook, Duffy and Brett Fiers.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Big show forthcoming today Sunday, April tenth, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 6: It's episode three forty four of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: And you knew you weren't going to have to wait

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Speaker 6: for the Ray Longo minute. Today feels like a three

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Speaker 6: time championship celebration Sunday morning, doesn't it. Congratulations Alazaba Serling

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Speaker 6: still undisputed UFC bantam Boy Champion of the World.

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Speaker 3: And John, I gotta tell you it's getting a little boring.

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Speaker 4: Now you'll fucking tell me.

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Speaker 3: Oh love live man on Fine. I'm so proud of

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Speaker 3: this guy. It was a great night. And man Hans

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Speaker 3: Off the Petrie Man. Where is this guy? Bring him up?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll talk because I have to die.

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Speaker 3: I think I was betting against Style Joe until I

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Speaker 3: heard this kid last week. He turned me around. Crazy.

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Speaker 6: At twelve thirty pm Eastern, we will bring on big

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Speaker 6: Gun Brian Petre and you guys can have ten minutes together.

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Speaker 6: And I guess the next challenge for Ray Longo Kenflow

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Speaker 6: is going to be to find a fighter now born

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Speaker 6: in the two thousands and try to turn him into

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Speaker 6: the UFC champion.

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Speaker 7: Could gratch a fucking lation time, man.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's emotional obviously for us because we're all

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Speaker 6: so close to you, but it's Al Jamaine Sterling by

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Speaker 6: split decision. I really don't care much for the discourse

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Speaker 6: about the scorecards. I mean, certainly we're going to get

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Speaker 6: into it, but the bottom line is that Pyodrian is

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Speaker 6: not a five to one favorite over al Jamaine Sterling.

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Speaker 6: They are very competitive together. Aljamin Sterling has a grappling advantage.

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Speaker 6: You guys used it to great effect. And bottom line,

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Speaker 6: the enormity of this win for al Jo, it's just

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Speaker 6: got to feel like the biggest monkey off your bad history.

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Speaker 3: I would that, no, man. You know what I got

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Speaker 3: to tell you, man, it's a you know, we've always

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Speaker 3: talked about this.

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Speaker 8: It's not like a baseball game or a basketball game

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Speaker 8: where you something goes wrong and you get to do

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Speaker 8: it over the next week or the next day or

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Speaker 8: thirteen months of just getting tortured. And look, nobody liked

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Speaker 8: the way that last fight went down, you know, I like,

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Speaker 8: and I swear I didn't know what the rules were.

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Speaker 3: I thought he got need. I didn't want to see

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Speaker 3: him fighting, you know, continuing to fight. Whatever happened happened.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I had put a space up between

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Speaker 3: Matt Sarah and Chris Whitman, probably about fourteen months ago,

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Speaker 3: and I would just make him stare at the space.

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Speaker 8: That's where you're going to be. And you know, I

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Speaker 8: felt so you know, just to motivate him. And I

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Speaker 8: felt so bad about what happened after the fight. Like,

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Speaker 8: I didn't even put the picture up until last week

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Speaker 8: and I called him and I surprised him. I said,

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Speaker 8: look me, you earned your right for the last fight.

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Speaker 8: I don't like the way it went down.

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Speaker 3: I really just want to see you, I dismuted.

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Speaker 6: But explain that a little bit ray because you have

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Speaker 6: pictures of the champions on Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I have pictures of all the guys that fight

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Speaker 8: is Matt Serrah and Chris Widen because they're the champions

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Speaker 3: So before the fight, I was watching some documentary.

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Speaker 8: I think Doc Rivers did something with a basketball team

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Speaker 3: So I thought that was a great idea. I did

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Speaker 8: I opened up space for where his poster would be

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Speaker 8: there because I go, you are the champ. You did

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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 3: I was so proud.

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, one, two and three easy rounds

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Speaker 3: I you know, can't believe he didn't get the finish.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a done deal. But to control

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Speaker 3: the way he controlled John, it was I don't know, Kenny,

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Speaker 3: you could talk to that even more than me, But

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Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: How would you rate this win? Obviously, you know you

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 8: This is look I'm gonna tell you I learned a

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Speaker 3: I mean, al Joe's different. He's different from Matt and

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Speaker 8: Uh and he you know, even like with the last

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Speaker 8: I sat down and said, oh, Joe, you're telling me

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Speaker 8: the truth. You really felt like shit, you didn't eat

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Speaker 8: because you know you've been doing this a long time

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Speaker 8: and you know I get it, but you know whatever,

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Speaker 8: you know, and I really believed in me told me Ray,

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Speaker 8: I swear to god, it was that was it. I

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Speaker 3: I said, if you didn't feel good and you did

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Speaker 3: what you did in that last fight, I know we're

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Speaker 8: So it's a it's this one was a great feeling

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Speaker 8: I mean that, dude, you don't don't be doing that shit.

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Speaker 8: It's stupid, it's nonsense. And I gotta tell you're gonna

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Speaker 8: I don't like getting threatened. I never did and I

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Speaker 6: You know, so, right, So you went right to the scoring.

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Speaker 6: There's so much to talk about before we get to

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: If you think I'm just gonna let you get away,

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Speaker 6: we're telling me that round one wasn't was It wasn't

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Speaker 6: a hard round to score, but Ray, what I want

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Speaker 3: This, let me just take a super proud Al Joe.

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Speaker 3: Because of the build up to this fight, it was

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Speaker 3: So it was this one was savage.

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Speaker 8: All of these fights are satisfying for different reasons, sure

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Speaker 8: what I mean, and and so that I think that's

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Speaker 8: the answer to your question. Because of this, the way

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Speaker 6: This rivalry has a certainumstance that no other one does

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Speaker 6: in UFC history, insofar as an undisputed UFC title changed

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Speaker 6: hands on a DQ on a foul. Right, And I

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Speaker 6: was on sure dog dot Com and it was finally

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Speaker 6: the line that I was looking for, right that al

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Speaker 7: Absorbed all of the public's wrath for Jan's foul.

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Speaker 6: It's a crazy and on the rivalry, right and as such,

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Speaker 6: a not inherently popular fighter to begin with. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he has his fans, right, He has his fans. Every

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Speaker 7: It really is. And you know, I like huouran a lot.

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Speaker 6: I really do, you know, I don't think this was

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Speaker 6: his best night, but it's hard not to be happy

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Speaker 6: for al Jamaine Sterling. And I just can't even imagine,

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Speaker 6: you know, you know how big dick swinging he is

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you know, I mean yeah, I mean, well, he.

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Speaker 4: Had so many doubters, He had so many people who

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Speaker 4: you know, for their own selfish reasons. They just wanted

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Speaker 4: to see the fight play out. They didn't want to

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Speaker 4: And you know, Aljael the way that he was able

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Speaker 4: it's extremely impressive, just based on everything that he had

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Speaker 4: the negativity around his bigory. It was just very impressive.

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Speaker 6: Aljamin Sterling twenty one and three overall, undefeated since twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 6: seven and zero since the mudde Ice fight, thirteen and

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Speaker 6: coach wants to talk about scorecards and drag me into

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Speaker 6: a morass of negativity about how the site was scored.

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Speaker 6: I want to celebrate Aljo a little bit the way

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Speaker 6: we're gonna sell Andrew Volkonowski, you know, because you know,

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Speaker 6: I want to talk about rounds four and five and everything.

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Speaker 6: You know, But I think for al Jamaine Sterling, with

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Speaker 6: like I, you know, not ten eight rounds for me.

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Speaker 6: I can't even help myself, I guess because you know,

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Speaker 6: there wasn't necessarily a submission attempt.

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Speaker 7: I thought Yon defended well, but been backpack man.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he gets on there, the control time just

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Speaker 4: That was clear. That was clear. I mean once he

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Speaker 4: a good job of defending submissions, but it was clear

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Speaker 4: he really wasn't gonna get him off, or at least

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Speaker 4: wasn't going to get him off easily. Algae did a

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Speaker 4: great job of controlling, controlling that body triangle. Uh, he

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Speaker 4: able to get him bellied down a bunch. But again,

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Speaker 4: let's look in the grappling world, you mount someone back

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Speaker 4: or front, that is a dominant position. That is the

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Speaker 4: most dominant position that you can achieve in grappling. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he didn't get the submissions in, but you know, if

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Speaker 4: we were to equate that to the striking game, that's

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Speaker 4: about as good as it gets. It was definitely close

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Speaker 4: that was the case. Because the majority of that round,

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Speaker 4: Yan is defending. He's not doing anything offensively, literally, he can't.

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Speaker 7: Let's start with round one. Why was that an easy

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Speaker 8: I thought al Joe the movement he had young. I

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Speaker 6: Four and five were clear for piodro Jan and I

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Speaker 4: And in my opinion, just based on al Jo, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, Ray, I remain very confused with the scoring, right.

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Speaker 6: It seems like even when it got to a point

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Speaker 7: Kenny.

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Speaker 6: I guess what I struggle with is that I thought

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Speaker 6: the problem for me and Ken Flow is that if

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Speaker 6: dominant I thought Aljamain.

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Speaker 3: Sterling, right, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 6: And some people would say to me, oh, you know, well,

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Speaker 6: And to ken Flow's point, it's like he rendered the

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Speaker 7: So don't tell me he didn't do anything. I guess.

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Speaker 6: I justr with, like I need somebody to just tell

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Speaker 7: This is from Shaan Sheen, great Irish journalist. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: If you are having trouble discerning whether or not it

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Speaker 7: Ten to nine.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not sure that that even works, but I

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Speaker 7: But it's neither here nor there. It's really doesn't matter

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Speaker 6: You know, he closes this chapter enough so that there

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Speaker 7: It's on to TJ. Dillashaw. What were your thoughts on

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Speaker 7: rounds four and five?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, go ahead, sorry, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: we did see it different now, Jamaine Sterling, No, and

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Speaker 3: that's all that matters to me.

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Speaker 4: He backed up what he said.

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Speaker 8: He was a different fighter, and that's it, you know

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Speaker 3: But though at four and five, yeah, disappointing to me.

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Speaker 8: But like Kenny said, five wasn't a complete runaway by

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Speaker 8: He wasn't taking much damage either, So you know he's

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Speaker 6: Uh so, well, I'm banged up today. I just spilled

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Speaker 6: I feel for like two hours because I showed the

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Speaker 7: Then he's gonna go for a leisurely lunch. He's gonna

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Speaker 7: six thirty pm flight. I'm thinking, can we not go

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Speaker 4: He stood right?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it gets too close. I get nervous.

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Speaker 7: No, I get it, but I is a mess. So

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Speaker 8: By John in all in all honesty, I booked a

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, that's what we should have done.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we should have been we think ahead in

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Speaker 8: Brother, listen what I see and again, look, I'm extremely

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Speaker 3: Uh he those guys. Look, Morob Devalis Shelley, there's not

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 8: Look, they're in the same weight class that he is.

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Speaker 8: All he was all about helping Al Joe. And I

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Speaker 3: This fight really had nothing to do with me, basically.

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Speaker 8: And I that that's part of the whole thing. Like

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Speaker 6: I mean it reminds me of like Ousman over Covington

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Speaker 6: I really am, and for Aljamain and for the family,

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Speaker 6: I think to you know, absorb a lot of the venom.

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Speaker 6: You know, Ray, can you tell our audience the story

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Speaker 3: I mean that was that was to me was a

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Speaker 8: So I don't know if it was the day before

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Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. I never came to a fight

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Speaker 3: I go, I don't care how you get it here,

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Speaker 8: You'll appreciate that I didn't tell you. So I'm on

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Speaker 8: This isn't gonna go good either, but this guy is

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Speaker 8: Aljo is gonna get knocked out in the first Oh no,

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Speaker 8: this is shit. Ain't gonna go good. No, no, no,

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Speaker 8: he was one of these guys. Then he's somebody goes, well,

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Speaker 8: what are you doing? I'm going to the fights. Dana

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Speaker 8: White's my second cousin. He gets me tickets, told the

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Speaker 3: This motherfucker is just out of his mind, out of

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Speaker 8: So I guess when we get off the plane, I

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Speaker 8: Now things change a little bit, right.

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Speaker 3: So he's just can I just talk to you?

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Speaker 8: Can I show you something? So you know what he

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Speaker 8: I'm not like baseball games, but whatever the hell's in there.

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Speaker 8: The last two a Pdon and Volkanowski six thousand dollars.

438
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Speaker 8: He wins a million dollars.

439
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Speaker 7: You're telling me all the baseball games had already come in,

440
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Speaker 7: and he just.

441
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Speaker 3: Everything came in. So he was down to that. I'm

442
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 3: not really a situation.

443
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Speaker 4: You know what you do?

444
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Speaker 3: You had so listen. I go like this, I go, listen,

445
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 3: you're losing, you're not winning. Aljoel looks great. He's at

446
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Speaker 3: a guy guy. That guy's he's good.

447
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 8: Now he's now it's like a different Please don't say that,

448
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 8: you're getting me crazy, you know.

449
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 3: Blah bah blah. So I go.

450
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 8: That became the running joke. So yeah, So supposedly I

451
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 8: seen him in the hotel and he wasn't drunk. He

452
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 8: was actually a nice guy.

453
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Speaker 4: I liked him.

454
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: I go, dude, you got to stop drinking me. And

455
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 3: that was a good look on the plane, right.

456
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 8: So he said he hedged or did something or cash

457
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 8: out for like two hundreds it was either a million

458
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Speaker 8: or two hundred thousand.

459
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it something, so I think.

460
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Speaker 8: But then his friend told me when I saw him

461
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Speaker 8: after fires, I don't believe he did it. He said

462
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Speaker 8: he did it, but I don't know if he did.

463
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 8: Because the guy was miserable. He came up to me,

464
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 8: he says, Letten. Let's be honest, Aljia didn't win the fighter.

465
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Speaker 8: I dud Let me tell you something. I can't even

466
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Speaker 8: tell you what they said, but whatever I tell you, no, no, no, no, no, no,

467
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Speaker 8: it wasn't even like that.

468
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Speaker 3: It was something about it. I just said, Look, I'm

469
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: not going to be able to save you if you

470
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: keep talking like that, because you know that tension. Tensions

471
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Speaker 3: were high. That's all I'll tell you.

472
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Speaker 7: I'm sitting on a ticket right now. Scotty Scheffler has

473
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 7: I think a three shot lead at the Masters, and

474
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 7: I'm sitting on a ticket for him at twenty two

475
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 7: to one.

476
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 6: So I will hedge today on Cameron Smith, who I

477
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 6: think has a great chance to beat him, because Cameron

478
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Speaker 6: Smith just wow. So I'm in the same situation, albeit

479
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 6: not nearly on those terms with hundreds of thousands of dollars.

480
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Speaker 7: Is somebody cutting up some cocaine or something that?

481
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Speaker 5: No?

482
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Speaker 3: Did you hear that? By John Well? What is that? Wait?

483
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 7: Give me one time that I know what that down is?

484
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Speaker 3: You know?

485
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Speaker 7: Oh please tell me. Oh yeah, he's going to bring

486
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Speaker 7: in some mixed model arts royalty here hopefully forty eight

487
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Speaker 7: forty seven yon for me by the way while he's

488
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Speaker 7: off his cans.

489
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Speaker 6: I thought peod Yan won the fight, but it doesn't

490
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Speaker 6: even matter. Cody's gonna fucking kill me. I'm happy for Cody,

491
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Speaker 6: of course. The producer of the weekly scraps al Jamn

492
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Speaker 6: Sterling's podcast Can Flow. But I thought pelter Yan won

493
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Speaker 6: rounds four and five, and I did think he won

494
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Speaker 6: round one, And certainly, if I didn't have the benefit

495
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Speaker 6: of this stats, I'll stop talking about this one. Ray

496
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 6: comes back on the cans. But if I didn't have

497
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Speaker 6: the benefit of the stats, I would have given you

498
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Speaker 6: on one, four five, But close fight.

499
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Speaker 3: Uh.

500
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Speaker 6: I just think it's like, you gotta be careful, man.

501
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 6: It's like that outcome hung in the balance late. You know,

502
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 6: it really did to Ray. Ray, who was that?

503
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Speaker 7: I thought you were going to bring in like rage?

504
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 3: I told everybody at twelve.

505
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Speaker 7: But I don't even think that's okay, that's fine, all right?

506
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 6: Anything that I'm sort of forgetting with the Hall of

507
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Speaker 6: Fame coach, Ray Longo, you got to be in a

508
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Speaker 6: Hall of fame at this point, Kenny, are you in

509
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Speaker 6: any hall of fames yet?

510
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame or something?

511
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Speaker 6: He just said, no, just some Massachusetts hall of fame.

512
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Speaker 6: What the wait the question again? She asked the question, So, yes,

513
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Speaker 6: you are in some sort of hall of fame.

514
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Speaker 3: Kenny?

515
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Speaker 4: Is that right?

516
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Speaker 6: Because I'm not in any Massachusetts Hall of fame and

517
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Speaker 6: I was born in Massachusetts.

518
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Speaker 7: What hall of fame are you in? Again, Kenny? It's

519
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Speaker 7: just some martial arts Okay, So Kenny, he's a Hall

520
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Speaker 7: of famer. Ray, are you in any hall of fame?

521
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: I would have been in a couple but I denied him,

522
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: and I really don't like that.

523
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Speaker 8: Well, it's got to be like like Kenny saying, like, yeah,

524
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 8: I'm in the freaking Williston Park Hall of Fame, like.

525
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Speaker 6: You guys mean a great you know, like the Anak

526
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 6: and Florian podcast Hall of Fame, and I would.

527
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Speaker 7: And then you're that type of guy that would never

528
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Speaker 7: want anything in my life.

529
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Speaker 6: I got a couple of five years of service awards

530
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Speaker 6: over there's to be a service from the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

531
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Speaker 3: It's got to be an organization of meaning you're.

532
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Speaker 6: A Hall of Famer in my mind, and these pass

533
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Speaker 6: along my congratulations to uh to Aljamaine Sterling, and will

534
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Speaker 6: do that from later in the nature of time, I

535
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Speaker 6: will ask you about HAMZACHIMAIV and Gilbert Burns. Obviously that

536
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 6: was right before your fight, so I don't know how

537
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Speaker 6: much of that you watched.

538
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Speaker 3: But I watched the whole thing. I will tell you

539
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: you're not a Gilbert Burns fan after that fight. You'll

540
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Speaker 3: never be a Gilbert Burns here.

541
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Speaker 8: I think Gilbert, what a what a great job he

542
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 8: did in that fight, man, and he kind of you know, exposed.

543
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Speaker 3: I mean, COM's the look he came to fight. He

544
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: took his shots.

545
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Speaker 8: I think it's a great growing fight for him moving up,

546
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 8: but he definitely derailed him for what.

547
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Speaker 3: I didn't see that fight going like that.

548
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Speaker 8: You know, even like told Gilbert or Gilbert, I was

549
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 8: worried about you, But man, I think you're the I

550
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 8: thought he fought with haunt and bulls and he you know,

551
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 8: he definitely wobbled him a couple of times. And I

552
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Speaker 8: thought it was even going into the third round. I mean,

553
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 8: that was a that was a good fight, man, that

554
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 8: was a great fight.

555
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Speaker 4: Kenny.

556
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Speaker 6: I want to get Gilbert Burns his face like tattooed

557
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 6: on my body this morning. Maybe I'll do a Brazilian

558
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 6: flag And what'd you make of Gilbert Burns just with

559
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 6: a spirited effort in defeat.

560
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Speaker 4: That is one of those fights that both men found

561
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 4: out a little bit more about themselves than they did

562
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: before that fight, right. I think for Gilbert Burns, he's

563
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: been looking for that warrior type performance, and even in

564
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: even in defeat, I think gained so much. Not half hands, but.

565
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Speaker 3: You know, absolutely absolutely, man, I was. I was coming

566
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: out of my skin watching that fight. That was fantastic.

567
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it wasn't going well for him in round one,

568
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Speaker 4: like he had to do so much in order to

569
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Speaker 4: come back, and in round two he absolutely did that.

570
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Speaker 4: That alone was a huge victory. And then you know,

571
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Speaker 4: keeping it competitive like he did in round three, and

572
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Speaker 4: you know, avoiding a lot of the very difficult positions

573
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Speaker 4: that he was put in in round one. I mean,

574
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Speaker 4: I was amazed by the performance. Gilbert Burns is the

575
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 4: number two ranked fighter in the world for a reason.

576
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Speaker 4: He fought his ass off. I didn't think emotionally, he

577
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: looked like he was not great of a space when

578
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: he walked out. He almost looked scared. But boy did

579
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 4: he turned things around and landed some huge shocks. That

580
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 4: right hand that he landed at the end of round

581
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: two would have killed most men. If you go back

582
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 4: and look at that punch, it was as perfect as

583
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 4: you can throw. It was as hard as Gilbert Burns

584
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: has ever thrown in his life. And how that didn't

585
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: knock out that man, I have no idea. An absolute

586
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: classic war of a fight, and both men should be applauded.

587
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: What toms that definitely had a pair of whiskers on him,

588
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: for sure. I mean, I think it's gonna be a party,

589
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: you know.

590
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Speaker 8: I think that'll be a huge fight for COMSA moving

591
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 8: forward because he had to he had to do things

592
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 8: that he never had to do before either.

593
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Speaker 4: So yeah, at the end of that round. So my

594
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: theory at the end of that round too, You remember

595
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Speaker 4: when Gilbert and I kind of pushed him off and

596
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: then kind of swung on at the end, My theory

597
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 4: is that he was kind of out.

598
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 7: I think he was laying on him.

599
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 4: Because he didn't really know where he was. Honestly, I yeah,

600
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Speaker 4: I think that's what happened. He looked hurt, dude.

601
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 7: It was bad.

602
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 6: By the way, if you're audio only today, there are

603
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 6: levels to society. As I sit here sort of draped

604
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 6: in coffee all over my desk, ken flow is getting

605
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: like beautifully manicured coffee mugs hot as hell delivered to

606
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Speaker 6: his office studio.

607
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 7: I would like to read a quote for you from J. C.

608
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Speaker 6: Santana, my strength and conditioning coach from the Institute of

609
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: Human Performance, Gilbert Burns, his coach, and I wanted to

610
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Speaker 6: get your thoughts on it. What about the adversity Gilbert overcame.

611
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 6: Gilbert fought two forces, comzad and the hype. Gilbert bruised

612
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 6: up the guy who was supposed to wipe the floor

613
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 6: with him. If you look at the odds, everyone should

614
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 6: be interviewing Gilbert asking him how he was able to

615
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 6: take the monster who was supposed to smash him in

616
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Speaker 6: the first round to the edge. I mean, did you

617
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 6: see Kamzat's face, The guy who has more rounds than

618
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 6: punches landed on him, got a taste of humanity today.

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Speaker 6: Or maybe that was humility. I don't think it meant

620
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Speaker 6: to be humility. And that was not Gilbert's best performance.

621
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Speaker 6: Like I love the quote from J. C. Santana, and

622
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 6: it really is amazing. Like I'm just so glad we

623
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 6: got to learn all of that, you know, and that

624
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: know we didn't you know, we got fifteen minutes at

625
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 6: epic fight, probably the fight of the year, right.

626
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Speaker 7: What do you think about that? From from one of

627
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 7: Gilbert's coaches.

628
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's uh, he's pretty dead on with that,

629
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: and I think, guy, I'm in agreement.

630
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Speaker 8: I I like, I did, I did tell when I

631
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 8: saw him, I I really was worried for you. I

632
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 8: thought this guy, uh that round one, you know, wasn't

633
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 8: looking too good. And the way he came back, yeah,

634
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 8: he did have to fight through a couple of different things.

635
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 8: But man, I mean I I even in the backstage,

636
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 8: I know people will coming up to him like what

637
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 8: a great fight. I mean, like normal people. He was

638
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 8: just really really good to see and I'm happy for me.

639
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 8: Had his kids with him, his wife with him. Just

640
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 8: a great scene. Henry, you know one of my favorite guys. Uh,

641
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 8: that just it was that was that was great. Man,

642
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 8: that was great.

643
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: You know, I'm sorry, right, No, that's my fault. I'm

644
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 6: cutting you off because I'm under side. So, Kenny, I

645
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 6: think Gilbert Burns would be a great training partner for

646
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 6: kamzat Chimaya, you know, because he doesn't have a lot

647
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: of guys that are you know, welterweight size, even though

648
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: Gilbert's a little bit undersized that he can train with.

649
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 6: So he was surprised at how durable and strong Gilbert was.

650
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 6: And I think a lot of us wanted to see that.

651
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 6: But sometimes for me, the expectations for these athletes are

652
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 6: way too high, even for somebody like Ian Gary. As

653
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 6: if you're supposed to just be Connor McGregor, who's one

654
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: of the greatest distance managers of all time, like Ian

655
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 6: Gary is just supposed to come out and dust everybody

656
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 6: in a minute, you know, it's not always going to

657
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 6: play out that way. And so when Ray says that,

658
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 6: like the hype is derailed for comzat.

659
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know.

660
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 6: I guess I just don't don't see it that way.

661
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 6: You're right, I mean if he had gotten knocked out

662
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 6: Ray in round two, like right, no.

663
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: No, well no, I'll even I'll take that back.

664
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Speaker 8: Not not the hype, but it's almost like the Tyson

665
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 8: fact you could see he's beat them, Yeah, that's all

666
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 8: that's all, Not the hype is I think it was.

667
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: It's a great fight for Comza too.

668
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 8: I think he grows from that fight tremendously and he

669
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 8: makes some adjustments. I think he's one hundred percent and

670
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 8: to get better question in my mind, But what I

671
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 8: meant by hype was that how he was just dominating.

672
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 8: So he was so dominant in his wits, you know

673
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 8: that that kind of got the railed.

674
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: You know.

675
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 8: Now, he's a human being who's just a tough motherfucker

676
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 8: who loves to fight. I mean, there's no question about that.

677
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 8: When I didn't mean any disrespect, well that's the hype.

678
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 8: It was more like the hype of what he's been

679
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 8: doing so far.

680
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing I think for Hamzat, he has

681
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: walked through so many guys. We we were going to

682
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: find out potentially before this fight if he was a

683
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: real dealer or not. You know, hey, it's easy when

684
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: you're the hammer, can you be the nail? And I

685
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: think the question was answered. He could be the nail

686
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: as well. He isn't just the guy that's good beating

687
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: you up. He could take a beating as well. He

688
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: had to go through some serious gut checks in this one.

689
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: And I agree with Ray and that we see vulnerabilities

690
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 4: in Chimaiah right right. He isn't this indestructible force, but

691
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: he's a damn good fighter. Yes, fighter, and he's got

692
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: heart and determination to back it up. Like you could tell,

693
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: he genuinely wanted to experience a war, like he loved

694
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: every second of it. For anyone who's like, oh, but

695
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: if you just hit him once, like like Tyson, if

696
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: you were able to hit him, you could see, you

697
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: know it, hit him hard, and hit him again, he

698
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: could fade. Over the course of the fight. Jimaia was

699
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: not trying to fade in any If anything, his coach

700
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: had to be like, hey, stop trying to brawl, your idiot,

701
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 4: what are you doing? You know, go back to your wrestling.

702
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: Be it writer. Because he was brawling and he was

703
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: getting hit with some big shots from Gilbert Burns.

704
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: I talked to his coach. I did talk briefly. He said,

705
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 3: just really wanted to use the jab more.

706
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 8: It was so effective, And why you like Kenny said, No,

707
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 8: Tenny's articulated better than me.

708
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Speaker 3: My point was just the way he's been because he's

709
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: definitely a warrior. I don't want to even I'm not

710
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: remotely saying that there's no fight. But my thing is,

711
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: before this fight, if you would have said him against

712
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Kamara Ousman, we would have been saying something different than

713
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna say today. That's all I'm right, that's all

714
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

715
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 8: Like you know, I had him, you know, in your head,

716
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 8: you see what he's doing. He's killing everybody. But now

717
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 8: it's different. Right now we got some resistance. But I

718
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 8: thought he handled the resistance great too. And I thought

719
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 8: Gilbert did a great thing, just like jac said, what

720
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 8: he was up against, how he had to dig down

721
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 8: deep and fight, especially after a first round like that

722
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 8: against a guy with all that hype, it even makes

723
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 8: it more. It makes that fight more special to me.

724
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. So like again, hats off to Gilbert Berthsmane. Hats

725
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: off the Kamsa too. The guy was fantastic. Also has

726
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: nothing to do with anything, you know.

727
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: Ray, I gotta ask you as a coach, you know,

728
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: I guess for me, I would love to see it.

729
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: But for you, what did you rather see Hamza in

730
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: this kind of fight? If you're getting ready for a

731
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: kamara usman, wouldn't you rather him be in this kind

732
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: of war? Knowing that your fighter can do crazy things

733
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: like that one needs to and know that he's got

734
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: the heart, then maybe just walk to everybody on your

735
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: way to the championship.

736
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: That's what I say.

737
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 8: This fight was huge for concept because now we know

738
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 8: he could take it too, you know what I'm saying.

739
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 8: So he's only gonna get way better from this fight,

740
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. I think Gilbert found out

741
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 8: a lot about himself. Like you guys say who he is,

742
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 8: But this kid's are twenty seven years old, right, so

743
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 8: he's just he's growing and this is a growing fight

744
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 8: for him. Even he probably made some mistakes a story

745
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 8: his brawling instead of you know, staying behind the jym

746
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 8: and doing some other things. But he's gonna get better

747
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 8: and better, this kid.

748
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: But my point was before this fight, we would have

749
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: had him right against anybody. And now I'm gonna say

750
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: he's got to get one or two more fights before

751
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: we start talking like that again. And it's gonna get

752
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: tougher now because people know, you know, they got to

753
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: take him three rounds. We never seen the guy come

754
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: out of the first round.

755
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 8: So there's a lot, a lot of questions, a lot

756
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 8: of moving thoughts that I thought were ranswered beautifully on

757
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 8: both sides.

758
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Gilbert Burns might be one of the

759
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 6: top twenty best pound for pound fighters. In the world,

760
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 6: you know, with a number two next to his name

761
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 6: that I did just take and the result that she

762
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: might have showed it that third round that seemingly concuss

763
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 6: a blow in round two should not be ignored.

764
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 7: But you know people who want to like, you know,

765
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 7: those who.

766
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: Are on the Chimaya of hype train right and on

767
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 6: that bandwagon, and you can count me among them, you know,

768
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 6: those that want to knock those people down. Today, I

769
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 6: think it's just silly, like I'm looking to sort of

770
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 6: celebrate both sides of this. And obviously I do consider

771
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns a teammate, if I can say that. You know,

772
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 6: I'm just happy to see him shine in this setting,

773
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: and he just wants it so badly. I do think

774
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: that eventually, you know, Gilbert Burns, somehow, some way, interim

775
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 6: or otherwise, is going to be wrapped with a championship belt. So,

776
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 6: at the request of Ray long ago, we are now

777
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 6: going to welcome in the fourth member of our team.

778
00:34:53,040 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 6: He is big gun, Brian, what's right, bring that energy.

779
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: Let's go.

780
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: Ray. You know, I told John I don't I don't

781
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: really I never listened to the show because I don't.

782
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: I don't listen to my I can't stand listening to myself.

783
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: So a buddy of mine said, you got to listen

784
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: to this sky Peetrees had some nice things to say it,

785
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: but I didn't even know who you were. But man, dude,

786
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: you knocked it out of the park. Man, you got

787
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: thank you energy that.

788
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 8: I think you're going to be successful, you know, in

789
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 8: anything you do in life. But man, you're on the money.

790
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: Man.

791
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: I love what you're doing. And just keep it up. Man.

792
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say hello, and.

793
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

794
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: Ry.

795
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Congratulations. Man, that's you I had. I don't you know.

796
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: I had one, two, three, pretty easy Aljo, maybe even

797
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 2: ten in there. So we got Champ Champ Baby.

798
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 7: I love it.

799
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: Let's go. That was it man. But anyway, Man, keep

800
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: doing your thing.

801
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 4: Guys.

802
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: I love you.

803
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 7: We haven't Hey, Ray, Yeah, this is I just want

804
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 7: to say this and close.

805
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 6: And I don't know, Kenny, if you had anything else

806
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 6: for Ray, you can invoice us for the show today.

807
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 7: We will pay you whatever.

808
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: I tell you.

809
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: And lastly, I'll just say when we were launching this

810
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 6: podcast and April of twenty fifteen, I believe it was

811
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 6: January of twenty fifteen. If I'm not mistaken, I pulled

812
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 6: Ray long go aside at a way in or some

813
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 6: fight week festivity, and I pitched him the Ray Longo

814
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 6: meant it to be a part of this show. And

815
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 6: I promise I'm not trying to toot my own horn.

816
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 6: But you know, it's pretty cool that here we are

817
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 6: seven years in and you're bringing this program an undisputed

818
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 6: UFC championship. And certainly you did that last March, but

819
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 6: it was anti climactic. So I would just like to

820
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 6: thank you on behalf of the listenership and keep getting

821
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 6: it done.

822
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: Man. You know we're we're having for you. Man, I

823
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: don't know how much more I got me, guys.

824
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 8: I'm yes, these are getting tough.

825
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: Kenny Rights, amazing.

826
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: It's amazing to see, man. And again it just kind

827
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: of is another demonstration of your passions as a martial

828
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: artist and as a coach and for you to be

829
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: able to take us along for the ride. Uh, it's

830
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 4: been awesome, man, congratulations, just beautiful to see.

831
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: Oh awesome. I really might leisure man. I love you guys,

832
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: and I appreciate even you know, considering me back in

833
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen because I wasn't really a big interview guy

834
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: or anything like that. So you guys you are. Now,

835
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: you guys kind of made a months. That's the problem.

836
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: Now you're actually stuck with me. You can't get rid

837
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: of me.

838
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 6: Now you've got merchandise and everybody wants a piece, and uh, well,

839
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 6: we love you, buddy. Have a great rest of your

840
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 6: day and get some fuel wheels up. We'll talk to

841
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 6: you next week.

842
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: Thanks him. Because of because of Brian, I'm a big

843
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: fucking listener of the show. Now I'm a big fan

844
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: of the show. Guys, I'll talk to you. Thank you.

845
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 6: I guess he'll just have to fast forward to the

846
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 6: Petri Dish segment for the main event. He's a king

847
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 6: Matt Takes Podcast. He has big gun, Brian Petrick. So

848
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 6: many directions in which we could go. We only have

849
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 6: one prediction to make. We'll do that probably in about

850
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 6: a half an hour, because we have not even invoke

851
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 6: the name Alexander Volkanovski. Excuse me, but I do want

852
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 6: to just I'm gonna read the ten eight language real quick.

853
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 6: We are going to get your thoughts on Sterling and

854
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 6: Yon efficiently. And then she maya burns and then we'll

855
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 6: get to the other fights.

856
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 7: Ken Flow.

857
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 6: I love watching Mackenzie Dura fight man. She might be

858
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 6: my favorite fighter to watch. I love watching jiu jitsu

859
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 6: application at MMA at the highest level. It's my favorite

860
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 6: thing to watch, all right. A ten eight round at MMA,

861
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. You can fast forward thirty seconds if this

862
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 6: bores the shit out of you, but we kind of

863
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 6: have to do this today. A ten eight round an

864
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 6: MMA is where one fighter wins the round by a

865
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 6: large margin. A ten eight round in MMA is not

866
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 6: the most common score judge will render, but it is

867
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 6: absolutely essential to the evolution of the sport and the

868
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 6: fairness to the fighters that judges understand and effectively utilize

869
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 6: the score of ten eight. That sort of language shouldn't

870
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 6: be in the rules, right, like that should be in

871
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: a course.

872
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: Right.

873
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 7: We need to know exactly how to score this.

874
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 6: The score of ten eight does not require a fighter

875
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 6: to dominate their opponent for five minutes of a round.

876
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 6: You understand the problem, Kenny. Ten eight round in MMA

877
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 6: is where one fighter wins the round by a large margin.

878
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 6: Later two sentences later, a score of ten eight does

879
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 6: not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for five

880
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 6: minutes of a round, so you don't need duration.

881
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

882
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 6: And then the score of ten eight is utilized by

883
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 6: the judge when the judge he's there, which.

884
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: Which is why in boxing, like in a boxing setting,

885
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: if someone gets knocked down, it's almost automatically a tenan right.

886
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: But again based on that, if I'm looking at it,

887
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at it from a grappling perspective, was

888
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: Aljo not on his back for the like uh the

889
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: majority of that round and he's scoring punches, he's flattening

890
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: him out, and there's literally nothing offensive that Yan can do.

891
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 4: All Yan can do from that back position is survived.

892
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: You have to do round. In my opinion, that's that's

893
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: winning the round by a large margin. If that's what

894
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: we're going through. And again those that's very uh you

895
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: know up two stair language it's it's a little ambiguous,

896
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: but I don't know man.

897
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 7: Uh. Interesting, Brian, how did you see that fight? Particularly

898
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 7: round one?

899
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: Round one?

900
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: I had al Joe and I rewatched it this morning.

901
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't get enough woke up earlier. Of course,

902
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: I think Jan threw big shots, but they were bouncing

903
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: off the shoulder. There's not that much landed. He was

904
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: overloading on his shots, and Aljo didn't really initiate the

905
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: grapple through a lot of kicks. I saw some arguments

906
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: on Twitter like, oh, well Aljo threw kicks. Yeah, but

907
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: he threw kicks and y'aan didn't throw anything that landed significantly.

908
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the numbers. Al Joe outlanded

909
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: him in that round, and I just thought Yan was

910
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: a little too tense, and I think you guys, I

911
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: think Rogan maybe brought it up on the broadcast. He

912
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: seemed like he was fighting angry, and you could tell

913
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: in that first round he wasn't calm, cool and collected.

914
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: He was coming after al Jo, trying to take his

915
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: head off, and I think he dropped that first round. Now,

916
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: of course it's very very close. I'm not gonna sit

917
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: here and argue, and there's no robberies that need to

918
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: be thrown out. I just happened to have it for

919
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: Aljo because I thought John was coming up empty on

920
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: a lot of those shots. And then I had at

921
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: ten eight for the second round right when he flattened

922
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: him out, because I thought that could be a finish.

923
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: You know, I go back to the Pride probade never dies.

924
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: Those Pride judges like, if you are about to finish

925
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: a fight, you're gonna get that round. And I thought,

926
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: mean it could have been you know, I know yah

927
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: or Yan was was scrambling and stuff, but he panicked

928
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: a little bit. And Al Joe when he flattened him

929
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: out and got that that back control and start rainding

930
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: punches down, that to me succored secure the ten eight.

931
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: Not to mention the three plus minutes of ground control,

932
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: I remember what, Yeah, go.

933
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: Ahead, can That's what it was for me as well,

934
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: Brian as when he had flattened out, he landed you know,

935
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 4: some hard shots another two and three that could have

936
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: been you know, there are two and three hard shots.

937
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: The referee could have stepped in there.

938
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, one hundred percent. And then that's why

939
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: I didn't score around three for a ten eight, because

940
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: he didn't flatten him out that round. John was just

941
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: kind of guarding a little less back control, but he's

942
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: still a back control. And then four and five four

943
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: was a big Yon round. I think I think al

944
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: Joe maybe it was just I don't know if he

945
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: took it off or whatever, but he shot a little

946
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: too many times that round and then the fifth round,

947
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: like Kenny mentioned earlier, was very close. I mean I

948
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: scored it for Yon, but it was not that easy

949
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: of around the score. So yeah, I had Aljoe three

950
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: rounds to two. I was fairly confident. Obviously I had

951
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: a bet on him, and I was very happy. I

952
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: text Cody right afterwards because I got a lot of

953
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: shit for picking al Joe. I got caught a homer,

954
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: I got called, oh you.

955
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: The only ones that picked him.

956
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: I think that, like I think though, I tweeted at

957
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Kenny because you know, Krause picked h Jan and Jan. Listen,

958
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people are upset because there's these guys

959
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: out there. Okay, they give their best bets and it's

960
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: the three favorites of the fucking card. So they got

961
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: green colored glasses on and they're like, oh yeah on

962
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: one because they blew up their parlay. That's why they're right, yeah,

963
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: and that's why people didn't even more upset.

964
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: And the thing is, and we say this a lot, right,

965
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 6: but you're betting the number and not the fighter, and

966
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 6: certainly most of us on this show just didn't see

967
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 6: this type of skill gap between these two athletes. But

968
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 6: I don't believe podor Jan fought a great fight Camflow.

969
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 6: I mean, he came out very uncharacteristically, and I do

970
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 6: think juxtaposed against the ufc Apex, right, this tiny little

971
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 6: octagon with no fans, like he's totally locked in with

972
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 6: high guard like that, and then here he's trying to

973
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 6: fucking knock his head off.

974
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: You know.

975
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he was a little bit too emotional.

976
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: He was throwing himself off balance on a couple of

977
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: those punches, which was allowing Algae to change levels and

978
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: get in on those legs. But I think the tactical

979
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: mistakes when he kept turning away, he was kind of

980
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: trying to turn away and run away off of the takedown,

981
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: and in doing that, he was giving perhaps one of

982
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 4: the best backtakers in the division a tremendous opportunity. And Aljie,

983
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 4: if he takes your back, he may not submit you

984
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: every time, but you're not gonna get out. You're not

985
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: gonna get out with some serious damage or at least

986
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: exerting a tremendous amount of energy. And that's where he

987
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 4: failed here in this fight. Uh and then did it again.

988
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: You know, his corner was going nuts. Poompinia was telling him,

989
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: do not turn your back, whatever you do, and then

990
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: round three, sure enough, he did it right away, and

991
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 4: that had to be very demoralizing for both him and

992
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: his team.

993
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 7: See it's Pompina, you know, but like he goes by

994
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 7: right but right, But like, what are we supposed to

995
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 7: call him on the air because it sounds so fun,

996
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 7: but is like it's like.

997
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: A cutie way. It's like, you know, it's like Bob

998
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: and Bobby. You know, it's like, hey, Bobby, you know,

999
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: now he wants to he wants to be a Bob.

1000
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 6: So it's like my home by the way, Kenny, I

1001
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: think now here two four, I might have to go heo, dijoneto,

1002
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 6: it's not Rio, it's not Rio.

1003
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 7: Huh. Fuck man, that's a tricky one.

1004
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 6: That's a real tricky one because Rio is known to

1005
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 6: the world and it's always been Rio for me on

1006
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 6: the broadcast, and I don't.

1007
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: Probably should be anglicized.

1008
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 7: So yeah, all right.

1009
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: I got pulled aside by someone and was like, hey,

1010
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 6: you know, I know you're the king of pronunciation, but

1011
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 6: you do know it's heo, right man, Brian, do you

1012
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: have thirty to forty five seconds for us on Chimayah

1013
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 6: Burns before we get to I.

1014
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: Got two hours on that fight. No listen, I underestimated

1015
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: gilber Burns. I was trying to be pretty nice last

1016
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: podcast when I said, you know, is the number disrespectful?

1017
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was because I thought Timaya was

1018
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: that good. But Gilbert Burns really proved. I mean, I

1019
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: think he's undersize. You know, there's there's times where he

1020
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: has been chinny, but he showed up and I and

1021
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: Kenny again mentioned a great point. I texted to my buddy, said, dude,

1022
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: gil Burns looked a little scared. His walkout did not

1023
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: give me a lot of confidence. Like, if I could

1024
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: live bet my state, I would have double triple down

1025
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: on Jamaia. But he came out there ready to fight,

1026
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: you know, and Tamaiah though what I love is a copper.

1027
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Two things is one. This guy's only had ten fights,

1028
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: he's twenty seven years old, He's never lost a round,

1029
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: He's never really been hit. He went in there for

1030
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: a three round war where he had a huge adrenaline

1031
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: dump after that first round and battle won the best

1032
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: one seventies that we got right and look good doing it.

1033
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: And got rocked bad. Like I mean, I think I

1034
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: miss what Kenny said. I gotta go back and rewatch it.

1035
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: But it looked like he was right, like he got

1036
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: kicked off because Tama I have don't where the fuck

1037
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: he was at. Like it was he got hit with

1038
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: a heavy right hand and put him down. It was

1039
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: impressed of him to come back to the round. So

1040
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: as a capper, I'm like, great, now we're not going

1041
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: to get these blown up lines. People are gonna be like, ah,

1042
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: let's say Hiant. I still think he's the real deal.

1043
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the eleventh pro fight. We might

1044
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: not minus five to fifty next time. You know, if

1045
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: he fights, I think he's gonna fight the winner of

1046
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: Luke Blall. Who will talk about blow excuse me, who

1047
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: will talk about later? I think I think that's the

1048
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: winner of that. And you know, if I think, I

1049
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: think he'll probably still be the favorite. But he's not

1050
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: gonna be five to one. And as a capra, I

1051
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: like that because I do think the guy's got the

1052
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: goods and this is what I want to see. You

1053
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: see all these guys running through people and then all

1054
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: of a sudden he has a stern test showed out

1055
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: with his chin. He did fade a little bit of

1056
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: the cardio, but Dana White, I believe mentioned it could

1057
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: have been adrenaline up, which is one hundred percent. He

1058
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: came out Jack he was sitting on top of the cage,

1059
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: you know, and then he just battled back. He showed that, Hey, listen,

1060
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm not just a wrestler, but I'm a guy that

1061
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: can strike and I can bang it out, even though

1062
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: that might not be the smartest game plan. His corner

1063
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 2: is screaming out on which I love. But yeah, listen,

1064
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm impressed with both guys. Both guys are winners of

1065
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: my book. Super impressive both.

1066
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. The sitting on top of the cage was it

1067
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 4: has to be a first, right John, I mean, you

1068
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: know better than I would be never seen anything like that.

1069
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: It was. It was epic.

1070
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 6: His ninety nine point five percent of the fighters. Were

1071
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 6: they to do that, security would be over in a

1072
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 6: minute and tell them, right.

1073
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: I want to ask you. I want to ask you

1074
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: about something because I felt like you guys touched on it,

1075
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: but production didn't go back to it. And I think

1076
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, there was a so Gilbert knocked Chimaya down

1077
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: and it looked like he threw a kick or a

1078
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: knee or something. Did that land and how much did

1079
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: of an effect did that have? Because you guys never

1080
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: showed the replay on it what happened there?

1081
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 6: We kind of brushed over it because I think it

1082
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: was soft and inconsequential if memory serves you know. Okay,

1083
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 6: but candidly, you know, I honestly have to go back.

1084
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 6: I do like it feels like Julio Arsey fought like

1085
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 6: three weeks ago. Like my brain felt scrambled. So but

1086
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 6: I think that's what happened.

1087
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 7: I think that's what happened.

1088
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 6: That it wasn't necessarily anything that either fight or thought

1089
00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 6: much about, and we just kind of moved. Okay, I

1090
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 6: will say too, just in closing on Burns, and she

1091
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: maya if I just had written down. You know, Kenny,

1092
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 6: you sort of set off the top of your analysis

1093
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 6: of that fight that they both learned a lot about themselves,

1094
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 6: or not a lot, but you said they both learned

1095
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 6: about themselves. But certainly you would suggest that she might

1096
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: have learned more about himself than Gilbert did. Because Gilbert

1097
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 6: knows that he's a dog, he knows how resilient he

1098
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 6: is now, maybe the chin won't hold up in other fights,

1099
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 6: you know, but he just with his cardiovascular base and

1100
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 6: all the work that he puts in. Would you just

1101
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 6: agree that Gilbert like knew that he could or or

1102
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm trying to say, possible, No.

1103
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: Listen, I think I think that. Listen. There's sometimes as

1104
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 4: a fighter where you're like, I think, if it gets dark,

1105
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: I believe, I believe that I'm gonna be able to

1106
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: fight through that darkness, through that tough time. After the fight, though,

1107
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: that's when you really know for sure. Yeah, And I

1108
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 4: think he knows for sure now. And he went against

1109
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 4: one of the most dangerous, one of the most dangerous

1110
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: MMA fighters to have ever entered the octagon, you know,

1111
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: based on what we've seen in a lot of ways,

1112
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: like the way that he wrestles, how hard he hits,

1113
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: the size of him. He's an absolute juggernaut. And Gilbert

1114
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: was outgunned, okay. And I think if he didn't know before,

1115
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: he definitely knows now. And I think that was kind

1116
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: of what he alluded to after the fight. It was

1117
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 4: like a reassurance and a confidence in himself now saying, hey,

1118
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to kill me and he went to

1119
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: that place, but you don't really know until you're there.

1120
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: And I think that was one of those fights where

1121
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 4: both men again know a hell of a lot more

1122
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 4: about themselves than they did before. I love just an

1123
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 4: absolute hell of a fight.

1124
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 7: We have so much to get to.

1125
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 6: We need to start getting to Alexander Volkanowski, whose futures

1126
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: in the UFC Hall of Fame.

1127
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 7: Keempflal, We'll start with you on Volka.

1128
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 6: Gosh, you know, I didn't realize till after the fact

1129
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 6: that he said to Chance Sung John at the beginning

1130
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 6: a round four, you.

1131
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: Sure you know, all right, like phenomenal, dude.

1132
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 7: Wow, talk to me Alexander Volkanovsky flow.

1133
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 4: He's a beast. Listen. It's funny because you know, before

1134
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: the fight, I was kind of scrolling through Instagram all nervous,

1135
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: like it's gonna happen. I see out of Sonya post

1136
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: a pretty hefty bet Volkanovski by knockout, and I was like,

1137
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: that's interesting. If there's someone who knows something that's probably

1138
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: out of Sonya. And of course he's biased because he's

1139
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: friends with him and trained with him, but he again

1140
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: just like you know, a little bit more something about

1141
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 4: yourself when you're in fights like that. What do you

1142
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 4: think that win over Ortega did for Volkanovsky and all

1143
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 4: those fights? All that you gain so much more power

1144
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 4: and energy after a fight like that, knowing that if

1145
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: shit gets crazy, you're gonna be able to fight back

1146
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: and come back. And I think we saw an energized

1147
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: and confident Volkanovsky. That was the best we'd ever seen him.

1148
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: Zombie really was never in this fight, and Zombie tried.

1149
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: You know, when Zombie shows up, he's gonna try to

1150
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: not only when he's going to try to destroy you.

1151
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: And there was nothing he could do to Volkanovsky out there.

1152
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 4: Volkanovski was just firing on all cylinders. It was a

1153
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: brilliant performance. I don't remember him getting hit with a

1154
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: heavy shot really. That was clean defensively, offensively, footwork wise,

1155
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: variety of attacks and defenses. This kid is unbelievable. Man,

1156
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: he's been underrated even as a champion. Just another amazing

1157
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: performance from Volkovsky, who continues to improve. This guy's a

1158
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: series martial artists.

1159
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 6: Man Brian one of our other resident handicappers Odd Sharks

1160
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 6: Joe Osborne couldn't join us last week. But his play

1161
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 6: on the fight at plus two ten was Alexander Volkanowski

1162
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 6: by knockout, And when you considered recent history for vulk,

1163
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 6: last finish came against Chad Mendez December twenty eighteen, you

1164
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 6: had to think that was going to be a priority

1165
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 6: and he got the knockout. The guy's the total package. Man,

1166
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on Volkanovsky here making it three

1167
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 6: successive defenses?

1168
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said on these airwaves last week, I thought

1169
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: he'd finished it late. I used my old, my Midwest

1170
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: gut and placed the fourth round knockout at plus fourteen hundred,

1171
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: So I had that same Yeah, I had Aljoe on

1172
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: a couple of units, and I hit fourth round knockout

1173
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: on Volkanowski.

1174
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: That saved your night. Why were there a couple of

1175
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 7: prem Yeah, I.

1176
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: Went I went pretty heavy on Josh Fram. I like

1177
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: Josh Fram. I went heavy on him as a dog.

1178
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 7: I like him too.

1179
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh he's a good dogs.

1180
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 7: Bat texted me on Anthony fucking her name Anthony.

1181
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: Excuse me?

1182
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 7: But Ken teks me about Anthony. He could fight, man, Yeah,

1183
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 7: he could fight.

1184
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: I looked at the Kevin Holland and Josh Fram are

1185
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: built kind of the same, and Holland put Hernandez down

1186
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: the knee. So I thought, okay, you know, because I

1187
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: like him, you know, and then I just, you know,

1188
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: so I went a little heavy on him too much.

1189
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: That's okay, we rebounded well. But listen, Vulkanovsky, I might

1190
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: be throwing the P word around with this fight.

1191
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 6: Man.

1192
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: It might be perfect. I mean seriously, like the way

1193
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: he switches stances effortlessly, and there's no defensive liability when

1194
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: he switches stances.

1195
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1196
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: That's the thing is more fighters want to do that,

1197
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: but if they go Southpaul, then they're like, fuck, I

1198
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: don't know which hand comes up to kick or whatever.

1199
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: And he does it effortly. His shots, his doubles, he

1200
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: nixed everything up, his cardios on point. His chin's good,

1201
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: his mental's good. And I was watching the embeddeds and

1202
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: obviously we did the podcast last weekend, and I said,

1203
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna finish. He looked at the

1204
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: camera and said, I know people say I'm gonna knock

1205
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: him out, and that's for the cell of fight. I'm

1206
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: knocking this guy out. And alexand of Ookanosa's the guy

1207
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: you fucking believe. You're like oh oh, yeah, he's knocking

1208
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: up and I was confident in going in there. He

1209
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: listens Zombie. Unfortunately, I love Zombie. I have a Korean

1210
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: Zombie shirt, the famous one, but that was about forty

1211
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: pounds ago, so it does not fit me. So I

1212
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: did not want to show off a little too much here,

1213
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: so I did not wear it. But he's a legend,

1214
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: but he probably shouldn't have been in there. This sounds like,

1215
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: this sounds like maybe you know Max Holways supposed to

1216
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: tick to fight March, something happened. I would have liked

1217
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: to see Josh emmonen there, maybe some young guns, but listen,

1218
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: no knock on Korean and Zombie. I just thought this

1219
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: was going to be. I thought it was gonna be

1220
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: the way it was. And that's his first class on

1221
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: Volkanowski after starting a fourth round, like do you sure

1222
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: because it'll be jumpretty bad in that third?

1223
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: Are you sure?

1224
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: And then Herbdean with a great stoppage. I know we

1225
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: should unrest a lot, but Herbdean, yeah, stepped in there

1226
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: and say that man, because Zombie is just I mean,

1227
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: he's a zombie. He's tough, he's not gonna quit.

1228
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 7: So yeah, I agree, Herbdean deserves credit for the way

1229
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 7: he handled that.

1230
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

1231
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I mean perfect is probably a good adjective

1232
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 6: right now, Kenny, to describe Alexander Volkanowski's game, I don't

1233
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 6: know how good his chokes are necessarily, I mean, I

1234
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 6: do think all these fighters should go to the Ken

1235
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 6: Flu School School of submission offense, you know there in Charlotte,

1236
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 6: North Carolina.

1237
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 7: He's got fucking battered walls in his house.

1238
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 6: But you know, I Kenny, to me, it's like he's

1239
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 6: he is firmly entrenched in that pound for pound conversation,

1240
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 6: which candidly is not a conversation that I really even enjoy.

1241
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 7: But he looks like that was like a perfect performance.

1242
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned.

1243
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: That's a professional. You know, if you are an amateur

1244
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: fighter or a new up and coming professional a fighter,

1245
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: I think it might be worth it going down to

1246
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: Australia and training with him and his team and just watch,

1247
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: just watch what Volkanovsky does on a daily basis, uh,

1248
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: and listen to him talk and break things down. This

1249
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: is a very intelligent professional fighter, like in all aspects.

1250
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: It's very cool to watch.

1251
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 6: So in terms of what is next, for Alexander Volkanovsky,

1252
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 6: I think it'll be the Holloway trilogy because I think

1253
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 6: the calendar will align. There are rumblings that the UFC

1254
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 6: is trying to get back to Australia this year. Maybe

1255
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 6: it'll be Perth, which is really far from Miami, or Sydney,

1256
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 6: which is a little bit closer. But I do believe

1257
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 6: that Alexander Volkanovsky's next title defense should come in Australia.

1258
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 6: You know, Volk says, you know he wants it.

1259
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: He trades, He trades in New Zealand. I'm sorry, but

1260
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 4: he goes back and forth.

1261
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 6: He lives in freestyle fighting Jim, though they want to

1262
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 6: make it very clear, Freestyle Fighting Jim and win Dang Australia.

1263
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 7: I believe it is is his home base because he

1264
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 7: goes back.

1265
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he does spend some time at City Kickboxing

1266
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 6: here and there, less so during this COVID nineteen climate.

1267
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 6: But you know, if he wants guys to make a statement,

1268
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 6: you know, Arnold Allen did, but I don't believe he

1269
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 6: had a top five ranking when he did it, and

1270
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 6: it came against Dan Hooker who was unranked, even though

1271
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 6: obviously he was credentialed at lightweight. You know, Josh Emmett

1272
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 6: is coming off a win, but if memory serves, it

1273
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 6: was not a finish. But I do believe because of

1274
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 6: the injury history for Emmett, you know, maybe if they

1275
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 6: wanted to turn Vulkan around quickly and Hollowy wasn't ready,

1276
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 6: you know, maybe he would get the fight. You know,

1277
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 6: sometimes the fan base says now, it puts words in

1278
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 6: my mouth suggesting that I want Emmett to like leap

1279
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 6: frog Holloway. But Ken Flow, what do you think for Volkanovski?

1280
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 6: Are you thinking? Are you thinking Holloway trilogy right now?

1281
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 6: Because that was the first name out of the mouth

1282
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 6: of Volkanovski.

1283
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think for someone like Josh emmittt it's

1284
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: been a while since we've seen him compete, I think

1285
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 4: he'd lost some momentum. He isn't this big name that's

1286
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: on the tip of the tongue of a lot of

1287
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 4: UFC fans right now, but he certainly is a worthy challenger.

1288
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think Halloway is the guy. I think

1289
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: Halloway is a huge name. He's a guy that's gonna

1290
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 4: show up. I love Volkanovski and I think he's a

1291
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: very different fighter from the last time they fought. He

1292
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 4: did get the NOD, but I thought Holloway did win

1293
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: that fight, So I think you have the storyline there.

1294
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: I think that's the one, and I think it would

1295
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: be phenomenal based on what we're seeing from Volkanovsky right now.

1296
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 7: Andy, Like, how is that fight not ridiculous?

1297
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, bruh, they're both so much better even now than

1298
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 6: they were when they met that second time on Fight Island.

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00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 7: Is that the direction in which you'd go, Bri.

1300
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and Holloway. Yeah, but listen, I think

1301
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: you guys are forgetting one guy from from as I know.

1302
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 7: I knew I was forgetting that.

1303
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Calvin Katah, It's one. Forty five is kind of

1304
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: a log jam because you got guys we touched on

1305
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 2: everyone and they're either coming off lost. You got Jika

1306
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: Kots coming off lost, Cater Cater coming off that horrible

1307
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: beating Halloway. But I feel like if you lose the Holloway,

1308
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: that's kind of given that forty five. I mean, he's

1309
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: the best. So if Holloway's not ready, or hollow he

1310
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: doesn't want to take the fight, or whatever happens or

1311
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 2: they want to go in a different direction the cell

1312
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: maybe like new blood or whatever it is. Calvin Kator

1313
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: answer the call again, you know what I mean?

1314
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 7: So about that?

1315
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: You know?

1316
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1317
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 6: I mean I guess I thought about him one and

1318
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 6: one in his last two, right, So maybe that's why

1319
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 6: I wasn't man.

1320
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 7: Imagine to fucking cue the fucking duck boat, Alvin Cator.

1321
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Mackenzie during over t Sha Torres by

1322
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 6: split decision, really close fight for my money, ken Flow.

1323
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 7: I I love both of these women.

1324
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 6: I do want to tell you that, uh we announced

1325
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 6: t Shatres fighting out of Colorado Springs, Colorado by way

1326
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 6: of Fall River, Massachusetts.

1327
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 7: That was all fucking me. It was my final question.

1328
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 7: The fighter made.

1329
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 6: You claim fall River. It's on your bio, Like why

1330
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 6: have you never been announced out of Fall River, Massachusetts?

1331
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 6: And she's like let's do it, Like, thank you, it's

1332
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 6: about time at Fall River. Kenny, what'd you think of

1333
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 6: that fight overall? And uh and how'd you score it?

1334
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: I thought it was a really entertaining fight. Man, it

1335
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 4: was awesome. I kind of felt the energy a little

1336
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: bit at the press conference. They were kind of throwing

1337
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: jam back at each other. I'm like, oh, this is

1338
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 4: getting spicy.

1339
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 7: I like this, and it was this.

1340
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: Pretty spicy fight as well. You know, they're getting after it, man,

1341
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 4: Mackenzie Dern just with those you know, machine gun type

1342
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 4: submission setups. You know, she was so close. How tough

1343
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 4: is Teja Torres? Now, granted she has like twelve inch

1344
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 4: long arms, you know, I mean she's really short arms.

1345
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: You can't lock those things up, and so damn sure,

1346
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 4: but you know she is tough as hell. Like literally

1347
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 4: just lifted her up from the Kimora and just like

1348
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 4: powered out of it and then had to really squirm

1349
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 4: out of some serious submission attempts from Mackenzie durn one

1350
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 4: of the best submission artists in that division to have

1351
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: ever been in that division more accurately, and she showed

1352
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: a lot of toughness. I thought, obviously that was the thing, right,

1353
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 4: it was Torres on the feet versus the ground game

1354
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: and grappling of Mackenzie Dern. I thought Mackenzie showed some improvements.

1355
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: She seemed to really focused, she was in shape to

1356
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 4: this one. But I thought Torres was gonna was gonna

1357
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: was gonna get the nod. Honestly, I thought she did enough,

1358
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 4: but really it was a close fight. Those are the

1359
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: kind of ones that you know, you can't really be

1360
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: upset about. I thought Torres was gonna win, but uh,

1361
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 4: it was really close and Mackenzie fought her ass off,

1362
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: so I was thoroughly entertained.

1363
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, Brian, I agree.

1364
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 6: I thought Torres one rounds one and three, but that

1365
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 6: doesn't seem to be the majority opinion. A lot of

1366
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 6: people feel like Mackenzie Durn landed the more significant shots

1367
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 6: in that first round. I can't get enough of watching

1368
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 6: Mackenzie Durn in combat.

1369
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1370
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 6: I feel for Tisia because this would have meant a

1371
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 6: four fight winning streak at a top five ranking and

1372
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 6: potentially a UFC main event, and I think she really

1373
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 6: handled this very difficult challenge.

1374
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 7: Well, what were your thoughts on that flight?

1375
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1376
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: I tore Tours winning as well, but again I had

1377
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: it in a parlay, so it's maybe a little green

1378
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: colored glasses on my side, but I was impressed by

1379
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: both both females. Listen, Mackenzie Dern. I thought this was

1380
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: a really bad matchup for her. I thought, you know,

1381
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: she's a little stagnant on the feet, she rushes in.

1382
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: I thought Torres was beat a counter and she did

1383
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: really well counter well in the first round. But that pressure, man,

1384
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: that pressure is crazy. And then one of the few

1385
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: fighters in the UFC that can pull guard and be

1386
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: absolutely dangerous, and she pulled guard jump guard, really didn't

1387
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: really pull it. Teacher held her up and she had

1388
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: that komarlock and I'm like, man, this girl is nuts.

1389
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: Third round was very, very close, very competitive. I had

1390
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people on my end split on this

1391
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: as well. A lot of people thought it was during

1392
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 2: a lot of people with the Torres competitive fight. Again,

1393
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm not calling robbery at all. I thought Torres edged

1394
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: it out, but I'm impressed by both and Mackenzie Durn's cardio.

1395
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: And remember, I mean remember not too longer she was

1396
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: missing weight and they made her go to work twenty

1397
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: five like she has corrected all that. She's a professional

1398
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: and uh man, if she just gets really killer wrestling,

1399
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: she's gonna be champion.

1400
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I think so too.

1401
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: You don't have to worry too excuse me about the

1402
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 6: work ethic or her appetite for MMA training anymore or right.

1403
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 6: So in three training camps now with her strength and

1404
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 6: conditioning coach j Jerio, Komosh. She has added eleven pounds

1405
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 6: of muscle and had her body fat from like twenty

1406
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 6: two percent to eleven percent, and she's all in total

1407
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 6: body composition change. And uh, I'm really happy for her.

1408
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 6: She's a great kid, and uh so is Tisha. But

1409
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 6: uh it goes to Mackenzie durn Ken flow. Did you

1410
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 6: see Alexiolinic with the scarf hold choke of Jared Vandera?

1411
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: What we done?

1412
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 7: What we did? You see it?

1413
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1414
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: Or no?

1415
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: I did?

1416
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1417
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1418
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, So so what you didn't see on camera,

1419
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 6: if memory serves like, was Jared Vandera's like violent reaction

1420
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 6: to whatever the fuck was happening with his face that

1421
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 6: had just been crushed by Olinic and his fucking neck, right,

1422
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 6: Jesus christ Man like, oh, let us gotta be careful man.

1423
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 7: Guy, he's got kids, got he's got that old man

1424
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 7: straight kid.

1425
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: It's crazy. Listen, you know it's funny. Before the match,

1426
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: I'm like this dude. All he does is like he'll

1427
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 4: grab a hold of your own arm and neck from

1428
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: any position and you are done, even if you're in

1429
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 4: the mouth position. He's got the most insane I remember

1430
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: I remember someone telling me about Olenic when he first

1431
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 4: got into USC there, like, dude, you know, he may

1432
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: not be the most technical guy, but he's one of

1433
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 4: the strongest dudes we've ever had. And he's just so

1434
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 4: unorthodox and his strength is so unusual that whatever he

1435
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: grabs he breaks.

1436
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 7: I think I think it's just that he just goes

1437
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 7: away chokes.

1438
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 6: He's got three minutes there, No, I love you, Alexi,

1439
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 6: but today he's got like four or five minutes.

1440
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: You know, cats, I love literally every time he wins,

1441
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 4: I laughed my ass off, like he did it again,

1442
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 4: He did it again.

1443
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 7: Sorry, what do you got? I have the exact same

1444
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 7: The guy was tired.

1445
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: After three overhand right hands that work closed. I'm like, oh,

1446
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: this is bad news. When there, it was like trying

1447
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: to you know, short notice on ease into it. And

1448
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: then when it went to the ground, I'm like, Vendera,

1449
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: get up, what are you doing it? Well, you're not

1450
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: getting okay, you're fucking dead. And he got his head

1451
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: popped off. I mean was I was like, Kenny, I

1452
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: was laughing my ass off. I couldn't believe it.

1453
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 7: Did you guys?

1454
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 6: See the video of Vandera seeking out Olenic in the

1455
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 6: back too. I saw that what happened, right, and so well,

1456
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 6: he just Olenick was showing Vandera how he got him

1457
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 6: in it. And then Vandera practiced the move on one

1458
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 6: of his own teammates. But as Olenic was sort of

1459
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 6: showing Vendera what he did, you know, he was not

1460
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 6: putting pressure on that spot, but you could see where

1461
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 6: Vandera's face was almost like crushed it.

1462
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I don't know.

1463
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 4: Did he tap from the submission or was the chest

1464
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: hairs that was in his mouth?

1465
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: And I I saw topology. Better put on chest hair

1466
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: submission because that's listen. Another thing to this guy's undersize,

1467
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: like Vendera's huge, olens not big, and he still can

1468
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: pull your head off.

1469
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 7: It's amazing though, it's like, you gotta avoid that ground.

1470
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 7: What are you dicking around down there? Brown and pound,

1471
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 7: just get out of there, get on the head. Yeah,

1472
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 7: you know.

1473
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 4: Congratulations to Alynic for hitting his one hundred and sixty

1474
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: eighth submission.

1475
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would have, man, that guy.

1476
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 6: The real number is forty seven submission wins for and

1477
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 6: that's a legitimate fucking number.

1478
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

1479
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 6: And Vanderic cuts down to two hundred and and sixty

1480
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 6: six pounds. It's interesting too because Olenic when we asked

1481
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 6: him and we had our fighter meeting with him in

1482
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 6: Columbus because he was going to fight a little Latifi,

1483
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 6: But we asked him about coaching and he, you know,

1484
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 6: he said he's tired of martial arts, you know, so

1485
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 6: I sort of joke about him just sort of you know,

1486
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 6: taking the kids to school and uh, you know'll go

1487
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 6: way in and just you know, I'll see what we

1488
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 6: can do here in five minutes and crushing.

1489
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 2: My medicine ball medicine, just alone.

1490
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 7: And over the top with that, just the move. Yeah,

1491
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 7: So fans in Jacksonville, we're outstanding. Thank you all so much.

1492
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 6: A couple other things we're gonna highlight here before we

1493
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 6: make a prediction on the way out for Blao Muhammad, who,

1494
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 6: by the way, has a podcast on this channel with

1495
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 6: my twin brother. My twin brother was in the building,

1496
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 6: had the fucking time of his life Saturday, you know.

1497
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 6: But they do a podcast called Remember the Show on

1498
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 6: this channel. And uh, we're going to see below in

1499
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 6: the main event here for the second time against Avicente.

1500
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 6: Look at this weekend belows the underdog, well get a

1501
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 6: prediction from these fucking slaptcks here in a minute. But

1502
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 6: I want to get your thoughts on uh really underslept

1503
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 6: on Ian Gary against Darien Weeks. If I could, unanimous

1504
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 6: decision can flow for Gary and uh, you know, I

1505
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 6: just you know, I think he's an acquired taste for

1506
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 6: some But at the end of the day, Kenny, he

1507
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 6: is striving for mixed martial arts perfection. He's just so

1508
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 6: all about this. He works so hard, you know, he

1509
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 6: wants to be a great wrestler, grappler. I don't have

1510
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 6: enough praise for him as an individual seeking this UFC glory.

1511
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 6: You know, I just think sometimes he becomes a victim

1512
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 6: of expectation.

1513
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: You know what we don't see so much in the

1514
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: UFC or and mixed martial arts in general, is the

1515
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 4: balance of a fighter between confidence and honesty, confidence and reality,

1516
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 4: whatever that is. And he's a guy who exhibits confidence.

1517
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 4: He's got skill, but he also knows that he's got

1518
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 4: things to improve on. And when I see that kind

1519
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: of balance, I know this kid's probably gonna do some

1520
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 4: great things in this sport. Is he gonna be a champion,

1521
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's too early. But is

1522
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 4: he gonna do great things?

1523
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1524
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 4: I think I think he is. I think he's got

1525
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: good size for the division. I think he moves really well.

1526
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 4: He's very skillful, and he's showing a lot of skill

1527
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 4: at a very early age. To me, shows a lot

1528
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: of intelligence. It shows that he's in the gym. It

1529
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 4: shows that he's setting you know, small goals on his

1530
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: way up to the top, and those are all good

1531
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: sign man. And the fact that he's moving to the

1532
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 4: United States and dedicating himself to this is all the

1533
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 4: great signs surrounding himself with all the amazing talent down

1534
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 4: in South Florida. You know, he's not a perfect fighter,

1535
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 4: but should he be? I mean, how many perfect fighters

1536
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: are there? You know, Volkanovsky, maybe a couple others. That's it,

1537
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 4: you know, And and what does that mean?

1538
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 3: You know?

1539
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: So I think that this s guy's the limit for him.

1540
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 4: I think he's taking the right fights as well. And

1541
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 4: I'm impressed a lot of maturity in that young man.

1542
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 7: B Pey, What have got?

1543
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of people were quick to fade this

1544
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: guy because he's arrogant, right, but Kenny hit it and

1545
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: nailed it. I mean, he has a perfect balance, and

1546
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: you know he's got a crazy story, got kicked out

1547
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: of his gym, came to Sanford, which is arguably could

1548
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: be a better gym. You know, from Ireland, he's only

1549
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: got This was his ninth pro fight. Everyone from Ireland

1550
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: wants him to be com McGregor and not. There's not

1551
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: commagregor's on growing trees. Okay, but I was impressed. Aaron

1552
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: Week is a tricky guy. You know, he's had a

1553
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: couple of professional boxing matches. He just wants all the fight.

1554
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: You want to grap him up. He was pretty bricked

1555
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: up and Ian Gary his head movement was on point,

1556
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: and then that third round was his best round, so

1557
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: it proved you had cardio as well. I thought that

1558
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: was some good ring time for him. You know, I

1559
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: didn't think he'd come out there and starts Weeks right

1560
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: in the first round like he did Jordan Williams, because

1561
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Williams leaves himself open a little bit. But that

1562
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: third round shot a lot to me. So if the

1563
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: kids got cardio, he can go three rounds. He dropped

1564
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: them that third round and then remain patient and didn't

1565
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: take any damage. The sky's Lemofree and Gary, I like him.

1566
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm all in.

1567
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 6: So when Kenny Florian went into the octagon to interview

1568
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 6: Connor McGregor after his UFC debut April sixth, twenty thirteen

1569
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 6: in Sweden, I wasn't there with Ken Flow because my

1570
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 6: wife was pregnant with my second daughter. Ian Gary is

1571
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 6: a fifteen year old kid in Ireland watching this fight

1572
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 6: in the wee hours of Sunday morning, right, and then

1573
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 6: you go to school on Monday, and he told all

1574
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 6: of this.

1575
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 7: You know, to the media this week.

1576
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 6: But think about this fifteen year old kid watching Connor McGregor,

1577
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 6: and then these kids all you know, go to school

1578
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 6: the next day and they're all mimicking him and fifty

1579
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 6: gees baby and everything else, and it's just it really

1580
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 6: is crazy, right, I mean literally, Connor McGregor was the

1581
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 6: inspiration for boxer Ian Gary to try judo.

1582
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 7: He became a judo black belt at eighteen, you know.

1583
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 6: And I don't know BP as much as I love

1584
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 6: you that I would even use the word arrogant, you know,

1585
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 6: But I guess that's a fair adjective. I guess I

1586
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 6: just see this side of him that just isn't that

1587
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 6: at all, you know, It's like, and.

1588
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm meant that in a positive way. I do think

1589
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: fighters need to have some kind of arrogance too, because

1590
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: they're stepping in I mean no other sports like this.

1591
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 2: I mean they're literally getting in there and finding another

1592
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: guy's training as long as them. So you've got to

1593
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: have some kind of confidence within yourself, right.

1594
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I do believe there's a with respect to

1595
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 6: the coaching he was getting. There's a huge gap in

1596
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 6: terms of what he was learning. I mean, Kenny, he's

1597
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 6: learning so many nuanced things from Henry, so I do

1598
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 6: think and from a matchmaking standpoint, they are proceeding well

1599
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 6: with him. We congratulate Mike Malott on a huge knockout

1600
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 6: and a lot with his mic time to help Joey

1601
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 6: Rodriguez and his family.

1602
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 7: Raquel Pennington's won four in a row.

1603
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 6: I thought she looked great against Aspin Ladd, especially given

1604
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 6: the fact that she had less than two weeks to

1605
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 6: prepare last fight. I'll get your thoughts on before we

1606
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 6: move on. Anthony Hernandez can flow over Josh Fremed. And

1607
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 6: if you don't know, now you know, I mean Anthony

1608
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 6: Hernandez is not just here to take part. He has

1609
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 6: championship aspirations, and he really is getting better. Fight in

1610
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 6: and fight out.

1611
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 4: Your thoughts flow well, listen, FREMD is a problem. He's

1612
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: a good fighter, Yeah, okay. Anthony Hernandez is the guy

1613
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 4: that you show up and you see this guy across

1614
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 4: the cage from you in sparring or in training and

1615
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, maybe I should take it easy

1616
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 4: on this guy, you know, just work some rounds and

1617
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 4: work some new stuff. And you're like, oh, I just

1618
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 4: kind of lost that round. I'm gonna kick it up now,

1619
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: and then you find that you lost that round as

1620
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: well in the third round. By the time you realize

1621
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: that he's a great fighter, he's actually kicking your ass.

1622
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 4: This kid can grapple, he can fight. Hely never stopped

1623
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 4: doing something. Yeah, that to me is the side of

1624
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 4: a dude who like really knows what he's doing. He's

1625
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 4: game is f uh He's he's good everywhere. And you

1626
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 4: start thinking, You're like, well, this is the guy who

1627
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: got the fluke submission against Hudolph le Vieira.

1628
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 7: I don't think that was a fluke.

1629
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 4: Like how many times did he set up that arvind

1630
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 4: Gin team? I was like, kid's gonna do it again. Yeah,

1631
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 4: And I think in fifteen minutes. I became more impressed

1632
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: with him in fifteen minutes in this fight than I

1633
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 4: did in his upset win over Adolphoda. Like this kid's

1634
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 4: a problem man. Like good luck to anyone who needs

1635
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 4: to go out there, like you're going that's the guy

1636
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 4: that you have to kill.

1637
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 7: And but you have to get through all of that

1638
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 7: skill everywhere in noted to do it as well.

1639
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's I think he's gonna surprise a lot

1640
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 4: of people and he's gonna get a lot of upset

1641
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 4: wins in the future.

1642
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 7: Yeah. Quote unquote, Yeah, Brian ken Flow's just on fire today.

1643
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1644
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 6: Quote I wrote down. The quote I wrote down was,

1645
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 6: you know, it's not just Pardio, is that he really

1646
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 6: knows what he's doing right. There's no hesitation because transitionally, Bri,

1647
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 6: he seems to know exactly what to do all the time.

1648
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 6: I thought it was a brilliant fight really on both

1649
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 6: sides in a lot of respects. Frem showed a lot

1650
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 6: of heart and resolved and rallied, and I took a

1651
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 6: picture with Frem's brother after the fact, and I was like,

1652
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 6: you guys should be really proud. He's like, oh we are, yeah, yeah,

1653
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 6: FREMD Like listen, I went heavy on Frem because I

1654
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 6: liked him in the LFA and the Looking for a

1655
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 6: Fight Dana White's he.

1656
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: Got the contract from that and he's huge. He's six four,

1657
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: like just striking and like his power. But listen, Anthony

1658
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: Hernandez is doing something that you know Americans don't do.

1659
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: That's that's a dude from Dakistan right there right grappling,

1660
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 2: chain grappling, going for these submissions and people were kind

1661
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 2: of like, oh well, maybe give up on the doors

1662
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: or give up in the arm arm and gives you.

1663
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: I liked that he was going for that because you

1664
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: know what, if you lost position, he's going to get

1665
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: it back because he scrambles well his cardios on point

1666
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: friend faded a little bit, sickond around. He had a

1667
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: good round, but he faded a little bit, and I

1668
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: liked him going for that. He wasn't happy with this

1669
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: when he wanted to go out there and he wanted

1670
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: to take a neck, And that was what impressed me

1671
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: by fram After that first round, I'm like, okay, we

1672
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: got a we got a big grappling disadvantage here on

1673
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: frem side. But then those chokes were deep and that's

1674
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: like his move. He has the doars and he has

1675
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: the arm in and I'm like, man, this this is

1676
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: the frem has shown a lot of hard He could

1677
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: have took us fun a short notes, he could EASi

1678
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: him like as tight top. Okay, I'll fight to live

1679
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: another day, live a fighting other day as well, I

1680
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 2: should say. But uh no, I was super impressed with

1681
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: Hernandez because you just don't see guys at eighty five,

1682
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 2: not from Dagistan putting that kind of pressure on you

1683
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: and then just standing sitting there talking post fight, just

1684
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: chilling like not even.

1685
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 6: Likes the mad Yeah, California cool. Congratulations to Anthony, Fluffy

1686
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 6: Hernandez and just a great car top to bottom. What

1687
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 6: are the longer pay per views we've ever done? And

1688
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 6: last thing on UFC Tip two seventy three camp flow, Like,

1689
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 6: if you're like, do white belts get put in like

1690
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 6: scarf hold chokes where their necks and faces are just

1691
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 6: crushed into eternity?

1692
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 7: Is that what happens?

1693
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 3: Like? Five?

1694
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, the most dangerous animal on the planet is

1695
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 4: a blue belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu. Okay, because they

1696
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 4: have just enough information, uh to kind of hurt you

1697
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 4: and themselves. And I think, yeah, as a white belt,

1698
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 4: you gotta be careful, specially with the big boys. But Olenic,

1699
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 4: I mean again, that one technique that he has, he

1700
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 4: hits it at such a high level, and again you

1701
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 4: compound that with the kind of gorilla strenth that he has.

1702
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 7: Watch out, man, I'm so.

1703
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 2: Sick in the head. I want I want to meto

1704
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: Lexia Lennox. I wanted to put me on that.

1705
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 4: I want to sreak your hand with a handshake. Let alone.

1706
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 2: I want to feel it. I just need to feel it.

1707
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 7: All right.

1708
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 6: Here's what we're gonna do. Next time he fights in

1709
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 6: the uf C. You're gonna be my guest and we'll

1710
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 6: do a fighter meeting and he'll put in the goddamn thing.

1711
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 6: We'll see l R I p A, Kenny. I need

1712
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 6: to do it, Kenny. I. I know some of the

1713
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 6: jiu jitsu history and origins. Do you think that the

1714
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 6: gentle art is a a good a good name for

1715
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 6: jiu jitsu?

1716
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I think that is the ideal. Right, that's

1717
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 4: like what as martial artist who were looking at you know,

1718
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 4: as far as how we want to explore our jiu

1719
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 4: jitsu and execute with our jiu jitsu. But sometimes he's

1720
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 4: not gonna just get nasty and he puts a little

1721
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 4: more spice on that that's not gentle.

1722
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope I don't offend all the great classy

1723
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 6: jiu jitsu practitioners around the world when I say the

1724
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 6: gentle art is an absurd way to describe jiu jitsu.

1725
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 6: That is ridiculous. I was like crying in my gee

1726
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 6: driving home to Boca Raton, Florida. The fucking gentle art.

1727
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 6: You know I wasn't crying after my boxing lessons of that,

1728
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 6: I can assure you Jesus all right, hope you enjoyed

1729
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 6: our spirited recap today. UFC Fight Night Luke versus Muhammad

1730
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 6: beckons Saturday night at the UFC Apex. We have two

1731
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 6: UFC newcomers competing in the comain events, So we are

1732
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 6: just gonna do a main event prediction today because we

1733
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 6: wanted to save the bulk of our time for UFC

1734
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 6: two seventy three, and we're not going three hours today

1735
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 6: because we're trying to leave the masses wanting more socente.

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01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 6: Luke is minus one seventy blal Muhammad is plus one

1737
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 6: point fifty. It's a rematch of a fight that went

1738
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 6: to Luke back in the day. How do you see

1739
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 6: the rematch playing out?

1740
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 7: Brian Petrie and I guess he probably gotta be careful

1741
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 7: picking against Balalai.

1742
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out.

1743
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: Jason Anik, awesome, Joe, remember the show, Remember the show.

1744
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 4: Love it on this channel.

1745
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: I usually don't like rematches unless one guy reached to

1746
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: the title right, usually like you know, they fought early

1747
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: in the career. But this makes sense because one seventy

1748
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: is kind of a log jam. He got the rank

1749
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: eleventh guy fighting the second, you know, second rank guy,

1750
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: which might have So this makes a lot of sense

1751
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: in the world. Listen, I have faded Luke most of

1752
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: his UFC career, and I don't know why it is.

1753
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he's almost mainly homeless the way I've lost

1754
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: money on this guy.

1755
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 3: Uh.

1756
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: I just feel like sometimes he's skilled everywhere. I just

1757
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: feel like sometimes he fights to his competition, Like if

1758
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: there's a grap like with the yes a fight, he's

1759
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: willing to grapple. Guess, and I think Casson made some

1760
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: crucial mistakes and he's got his bar stroke. His darstroke

1761
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: is frightening, and his stand up is great as well.

1762
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: But there's times where, like in the Mike Perry fight,

1763
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 2: where he's looked very pedestrian. He's got some weird wins

1764
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: and some really good, really weird losses in there as well,

1765
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: but he's he's an elite guy. No, you know, don't

1766
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: take me fading this guy for leak guy. He's getting better.

1767
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: He obviously beat bulaw in Belaws. I believe it was

1768
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: third UFC fight, and that's to blow excuse me, god, sorry, John,

1769
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: I got.

1770
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 6: Well, let me just say, like we used to mess

1771
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 6: up his first name and his last name and call

1772
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 6: him Belah Mohammed and it's Blao Muhammad.

1773
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm just gonna stick with Blao because I

1774
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: don't want to butcher everything.

1775
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, Yeah, that's good enough. Bully b also works.

1776
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bully Bee came in the UFC undefeated, uh, and

1777
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: he had a win over my guy, Chris Curtis in Chicago,

1778
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 2: which I was I was a hair away from going

1779
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: to see that. That was a very interesting fight that

1780
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: to me when he got that fight. He fought two

1781
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 2: more times with the UFC he's like, Oh, this guy's

1782
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: gonna be great. In the UFC went one and two

1783
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 2: and I went back and rewatched a lot of his fights.

1784
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: Early fights, he didn't really have that swagger that he

1785
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 2: has now. Like he definitely is a confident guy, but

1786
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: he wasn't the same guy we're seeing now right. He's

1787
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 2: still trying to find himself. Do I want to be

1788
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: a boxer? Do I want to be a grappler? He's,

1789
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: you know, move camps a little bit, that Chicago camp

1790
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 2: that he has. You know, he's at Rufles for a while.

1791
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: Chicago camps coming along great. You know, he's got a Nassiobahomundees,

1792
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 2: which is the best name in the world. He goes

1793
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: down to Standford MMA, and now he's got that you know,

1794
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: that swagger, he's got that fuck you smirk at the

1795
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: way and which needs to be on a T shirt.

1796
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 7: I love that. I love the confident he has.

1797
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 2: And he's finding his game, you know what I mean.

1798
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: He's not a power puncher. He's a volume puncher. He

1799
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: knows that his defense has been a liability at times,

1800
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: but he showed a chin off in the Jeff Neil fight.

1801
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: I know Luke clipped him and put him down. But

1802
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 2: in the Jeff Neil fight, he showed, hey, I can

1803
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: have a chance. Sometimes it's a high up in the

1804
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 2: air a little bit, but he likes to put pressure

1805
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: on you. But his best game is his grappling, and

1806
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 2: that's what he needs.

1807
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 4: A lean on.

1808
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes he didn't really want to lean

1809
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: on that cause I think he maybe got wrapped up.

1810
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: He wanted to be an exciting fighter or whatever the case.

1811
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: He went one and two in FC, he decided, you

1812
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: know what I need to rattle alsin wins, got three in.

1813
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 4: A row, four in a row.

1814
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: Now he's on a six fight win streak after Jeff

1815
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: Neil fight. And I love his game right now because

1816
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: positionally he's gonna take you down and where you are,

1817
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: and that's what he does. His cardio is unmatched at

1818
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: one seventy. I will bet a hefty dollar amount that

1819
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: no one matches his cardi at one seventy. It's it's

1820
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: it's on another level, and he does have good submissions,

1821
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: but I feel like positionally is where he breaks you

1822
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: and then you'll give up a neck. And in the

1823
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: Kissa fight, which is what I keep going back to, Luke,

1824
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: a guess a similar kind of style, maybe a little

1825
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: different grappling style than Luca or excuse me, Blal because

1826
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: of you body size and whatever. But Kiss was doing

1827
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: really well in that fight and he just made a

1828
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 2: mistake and fell into that dars, which is which is

1829
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 2: Luke's move. So I love blau boy decision here. I

1830
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 2: think he's gonna drown him in the deep waters. Is

1831
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: a five round fight. I love that for blow. If

1832
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: it was a three round fight out, I might pause

1833
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 2: a little bit. But at that underdog number. And again,

1834
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: this isn't a Homer pick. This is this is this

1835
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: is something I'm gonna put my own money on. I

1836
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: like blab boy decision here. I just I think he's

1837
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: gonna have an interesting first two rounds of Luke and

1838
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: then eventually just take him in the deep waters and

1839
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: round himself. Fairly confident this underdog play as well.

1840
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 6: And I'm also friendly with the sente Luke. I mean,

1841
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 6: Blal obviously is my boy. I'm not going to hide it.

1842
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 6: But we did have Luke on the Anticonmploring podcast right

1843
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 6: before he went back to Brazilia for his training camp,

1844
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 6: not necessarily to balance things out, because we like thecente

1845
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 6: luk ken fl. I thought the betting line would be

1846
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 6: a little bit closer, just given the fact that to

1847
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 6: Brian's point, Blao really has found his style and really

1848
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 6: understands now how to apply his skills, I think. But

1849
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,799
Speaker 6: Luke is the more prolific finisher. Obviously his UFC resume

1850
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 6: has more big wins on it. As such, Luke is

1851
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 6: a near two to one favorite. I'm not sure he's

1852
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 6: the twenty four to seven three sixty five guy that

1853
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 6: Blal is. In terms of being married to the game.

1854
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 6: He is married in life. He has a child now,

1855
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 6: you know. But man, Luca's training camps are outstanding, his

1856
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 6: coaching staff is outstanding. He is elite, one of the

1857
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 6: best in the world. I guess I thought it'd be

1858
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 6: more minus one forty plus one twenty paying minus one

1859
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 6: seventy on the Luca side.

1860
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 7: Can't flow which way you going, no question about it.

1861
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 4: Listen, uh, Brian Petrie leaves some leave some meat on

1862
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 4: the box. What are you up? My game?

1863
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: Even on fire all.

1864
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 4: I have been talked way too much. I'm the same

1865
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 4: joy I enjoyed. But that was awesome, Brian, you know, listen,

1866
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 4: not a whole lot for me to add. It is

1867
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:25,919
Speaker 4: a brilliant breakdown.

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01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 7: I think that all of those things are true, and

1869
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 7: you know, it's it's hard.

1870
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 4: I love this fight. I love this breakdown, and I

1871
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 4: think that, you know, for Balal, I think that he

1872
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 4: has a little bit more past the victory, and I

1873
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 4: really appreciate his intelligence, and I think not only have

1874
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 4: I slept on Vincente Luke a little bit, I've slept

1875
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 4: on Blal as well sometimes and I'm always just blown

1876
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 4: away at his approach and the kind of work that

1877
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 4: he does behind the scenes. That has to be the

1878
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: case based on what I'm seeing, So I like this

1879
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:07,520
Speaker 4: fight for Blao as well. I think Luk is extremely dangerous.

1880
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: The problem is, I think Luk shines when it when

1881
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 4: it when if it gets down to being a war,

1882
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 4: a back and forth uh kind of like you know,

1883
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 4: stand in front of each other throw down. I like

1884
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 4: Luka's chances there. I think Luk will win that fight.

1885
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 4: But Blao, I think is so smart and will He's

1886
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 4: so good at never allowing fighters to do what they

1887
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 4: do right, and I think that that's kind of a

1888
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,919
Speaker 4: sign of a great chess player. Is if I cannot

1889
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 4: let you do what you do best, I win, and

1890
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 4: that's kind of been Blaal's approach. So I like Blal

1891
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 4: here he look at the momentum he's he's having right now,

1892
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 4: look at who he's beating. I think he's well poised

1893
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 4: to win this fight. I don't see him making a

1894
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 4: major mistake. He's not a guy who takes major risks.

1895
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: He takes the smartest pass to victory, and for that

1896
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 4: I agree with Brian and I like Blal as well.

1897
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 7: And man, he's got an edge to him of late.

1898
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 6: I would also point out that the last two weeks

1899
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 6: of his camp have taken place during Ramadan, and I

1900
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 6: think maybe Kenny and Brian in some respects that is

1901
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 6: okay because he's at a time where he has to

1902
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 6: be cutting weight. But you know, I can just say

1903
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 6: that we were trying to push out some content with

1904
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 6: him this week, and you know, we're not really able

1905
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,560
Speaker 6: to do it. Putting in two or three sessions a

1906
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 6: day with cotton mouth, not able to drink water all day.

1907
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just absolutely not he what he does.

1908
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 6: But all the respect in the world to the Muslims

1909
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 6: and below Muhammad. All right, for more from Brian Petrie.

1910
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 6: It's at MMA Takes Podcast. Great to see my man.

1911
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 6: Thank you for the extended time today, and.

1912
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,799
Speaker 2: I guess my pleasure.

1913
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 6: All right, we'll talk to you next week. I think

1914
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 6: we got UFC fight night Lemos versus Andras or something

1915
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 6: like that. But have a good week, brother, and we'll

1916
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 6: talk soon.

1917
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 4: Kid.

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01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: Huh you two boys, I'll see all right.

1919
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 6: There He is Brian Petrie with us every week here

1920
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 6: on the Anticin Flooring podcast. Also with us every week

1921
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 6: the executive producer of this channel and the producer of

1922
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 6: the weekly Scraps podcast for al Jamaine Sterling. This guy's

1923
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 6: been very celebratory over the last twenty four hours. How

1924
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 6: about your guy Aljo getting it done?

1925
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 3: Kid?

1926
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 5: Ha? I mean someone's gonna push back, right, I mean

1927
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 5: I've been taking this shit too.

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01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: You're a homer.

1929
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right, Jan was smoking in the first fight.

1930
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Speaker 2: I went back and rewatched it.

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Speaker 7: Come on, Fellas.

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Speaker 5: Dare Championship stays in Long Island.

1933
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Speaker 7: Could I ask how close you thought the first round

1934
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Speaker 7: was or do we not need to go down there?

1935
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Speaker 5: I mean I'm a cynic like I'm watching it thinking

1936
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Speaker 5: that the judges are going to screw out Jo I

1937
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 5: mean I thought it could go either way in the

1938
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Speaker 5: first round, because you know, I thought it was interesting

1939
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Speaker 5: what Alan Joe Ban said in the postfight with you

1940
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Speaker 5: when we went right from effective striking to octagon control.

1941
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Speaker 5: And that's not simply how the scoring is laid out.

1942
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Speaker 5: It's effective striking, effective grappling, aggressiveness, octagon control. So you're

1943
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 5: not even get into the fourth criteria in most fights.

1944
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Speaker 7: Right, Kenny.

1945
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess he was saying that, you know, he

1946
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Speaker 6: couldn't determine and maybe he doesn't know the exact letter

1947
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Speaker 6: of the law.

1948
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Speaker 7: I think he's an outstanding analyst. I got to work

1949
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Speaker 7: with him for the first time.

1950
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Speaker 6: But yeah, like he couldn't maybe determine a winner based

1951
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Speaker 6: upon effective striking, grappling or aggression, and I would I

1952
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 6: think you got you know, you probably could have and

1953
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 6: wouldn't have to have gone to that fourth condition. What

1954
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Speaker 6: did we miss today as we get to the marrow

1955
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Speaker 6: seconds on the way out, anything major?

1956
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Speaker 4: Kid? Oh well, I don't know.

1957
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 5: Can you see the glow just the sclow of a champion?

1958
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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, I think ray loss is bet. I think

1959
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 5: the crowd was a little bit pro yawn there on

1960
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Speaker 5: the walk in, but I mean, would you rather win.

1961
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Speaker 7: The bet a little bit?

1962
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 4: A lot of bit?

1963
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 6: But yeah, would No Burns was able to turn around

1964
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 6: the crowd. There's still booing Algerman certainly at the end of.

1965
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 5: I mean, can you you can cut that clip of

1966
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 5: him at the end, like I live for this ship.

1967
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to kill me.

1968
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 6: So Drenyo would be a good tattoo, Kenny. But I'm

1969
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 6: not a little tough one, so right direct translation exactly,

1970
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 6: So I'm not tough enough to get a drino tattoo.

1971
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 6: Maybe we go drino on one side of the neck

1972
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 6: and fucking game bread on the other when we retire,

1973
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 6: Like just gonna.

1974
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 5: Just get the per the human performance tattoo and just

1975
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 5: cut a little deal, you like, if I get this,

1976
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 5: I'm not paying.

1977
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 6: For a session, that's right, Rio Santana, if you're listening,

1978
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 6: I HP tattoo right on my uh my petrol well, I.

1979
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 5: Mean, and speaking of invoices for Red, I mean, you know, yes,

1980
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 5: we pay Ray hansomely for his time. But I need

1981
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 5: to invoice the UFC, like Heidi Dean, Like, who can

1982
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 5: I send an invoice to?

1983
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: These last two weeks.

1984
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 5: Al Jamaine and then blow like my blood pressure is

1985
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 5: going out the sure roof.

1986
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 7: I'm sure, I'm sure, okay, so let me get Matt.

1987
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 7: Sarah doesn't think we pay long ago enough.

1988
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 5: So moving on number one, the crypto bitcoin bonuses that

1989
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 5: went out, sixty of bitcoin that went to these fighters.

1990
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: Homzat number one with thirty k.

1991
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 5: He had the smash bros NFTs launched by dos Brack

1992
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 5: who had the art.

1993
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 7: I took a picture of that.

1994
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 4: Don't you sell it well? I did think it was interesting.

1995
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 5: Vulk had the twenty k and then Jan had a

1996
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 5: ten k bonus. You know, I think it's great. Why

1997
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 5: if you're yng, why do you want to have to

1998
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 5: convert your money to rushing money right now? Like you

1999
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 5: just keep it in bitcoin right?

2000
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 4: Good point. Absolutely got to educate the folks.

2001
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 5: Marco Madson twelve and zero in UFC at lightweight five

2002
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 5: and O the Ufcuh, it's a step up.

2003
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll take it.

2004
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 5: But Gregor Gillespie versus Marco Madsen, I mean, it doesn't

2005
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 5: get much better.

2006
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 7: Matchmaking cool, but that's a cool you know.

2007
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 6: Gregor Gillespie is probably one of my ten closest friends

2008
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 6: on the roster. I just want to see him, you know,

2009
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 6: continue this through and Gregor, if you're listening, let's go,

2010
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 6: my man, let's can you can you get a fight?

2011
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 6: Can you hook a fish?

2012
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 4: Jean?

2013
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 5: I've never seen you fish before.

2014
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 7: Friends, I have caught fish with my daughters in my backyard.

2015
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 5: All right, I hope you didn't need him.

2016
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 7: I did not.

2017
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 4: Okay, that's good.

2018
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 5: You stole my Volk to TKZ in the fourth round.

2019
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 5: I mean to have the wherewithal to just be like, yo,

2020
01:28:59,040 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 5: like are you good?

2021
01:28:59,840 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 3: Like?

2022
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: Are you sure you want this ass open?

2023
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: Like?

2024
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: Still?

2025
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 6: Kenny Folks the most relaxed fighter in UFC history, man,

2026
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, it's unbelievable. Man, He's just like,

2027
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 6: let's go, let's go. It's just's he's a.

2028
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, what else?

2029
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Cody?

2030
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 5: So, I have a question for Kenny. Is durn the

2031
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 5: only Strawway that could compete with Rose on the ground?

2032
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 5: I mean, Johanna vusus Way Lee is now booked for

2033
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 5: UFC two seventy five, most of the divisions locked up.

2034
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 5: I mean, are we talking about Darren maybe for a

2035
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 5: title in the next fight?

2036
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 4: That would be interesting.

2037
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

2038
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:32,560
Speaker 4: If you know, if I'm on our team, I'm not

2039
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 4: sure I give her that right now. I'd like to

2040
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 4: see one or two more fights for her to develop

2041
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 4: like Rose as a striker as a problem, you know,

2042
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 4: as far as her determining the range, I think mackenzie

2043
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 4: isn't ready for that. But yeah, I agree with you

2044
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 4: as far as you know, Ken McKenzie submits someone like

2045
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 4: Rose nammis, absolutely, she could submit anybody in that division.

2046
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 4: But I'd like to see her slow her role a

2047
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 4: little bit. But this was a big confidence builder in

2048
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 4: that she's you know, she's heading in the right direction

2049
01:29:59,000 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 4: with what she's been doing.

2050
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, she doesn't want a title fight right now. Cody

2051
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 6: and Marina Hadriguez obviously beat her head to head, so

2052
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 6: I'm not sure she would leave frog her, But there

2053
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,480
Speaker 6: isn't an obvious matchup for her right now, Lemotion Androge.

2054
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 6: I think if Onroge wins that main event against Lemos,

2055
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 6: you do Androge durn in the main event, and you know,

2056
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 6: I think Mackenzie dern one or two more wins, and

2057
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 6: certainly you're talking about a title fight.

2058
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 5: I think for her well, and I don't think it's

2059
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 5: hyperbole to say she just went up with one of

2060
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 5: the most prolific female strikers on the roster.

2061
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 3: You know.

2062
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, not a great matchup for her. Yeah, good point.

2063
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 5: Fall of his own last, but not least. I retweeted

2064
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 5: it from the podcast tweet if everyone could go and

2065
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 5: support Mike Malow's fund GoFundMe for his coach's daughter. It

2066
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 5: had a fifty K goal. I think at the time

2067
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 5: of him fighting, it hadn't reached it, but now it's

2068
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Speaker 5: at almost one hundred k. It's like ninety seven k

2069
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: as of us going on here, So you love to

2070
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 5: see the community come together like that.

2071
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Speaker 7: That's amazing. Good way to close out what has been

2072
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 7: an inspired episode of the Anac Imploring podcast. If you

2073
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Speaker 7: want to support Ray long ago, you can buy all

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Speaker 7: of his merchandise at Anti florianpodcast dot com, AF ten

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Speaker 7: or something like that.

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Speaker 6: The promo code I think is on the website. You

2077
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Speaker 6: can go to millions dot co if you want the

2078
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Speaker 6: one more sleep merchandise. And a lot of people asking

2079
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Speaker 6: on social media over the weekend, Ken flow, are you

2080
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Speaker 6: done traveling for a little bit PFL Challenger series in

2081
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 6: the can?

2082
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 7: Or what I got a I got a week off?

2083
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I got a little week off and then the

2084
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 4: regular season starts on ESPN two nine ten days something

2085
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 4: like that.

2086
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 7: And where is that in the world that we are

2087
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Speaker 7: going to be in Arlington, Texas Arlington event?

2088
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Speaker 4: All right, good?

2089
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 7: You give me tickets or no?

2090
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 4: Ken flow are you?

2091
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Speaker 7: How many do you?

2092
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 4: Eight?

2093
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 7: I'm eight on the time. All right, that's going to

2094
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 7: do it for us.

2095
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 6: Thank you to our guests Ray Longo and Brian Petrie,

2096
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 6: and thanks to all the fans in Jacksonville, all the

2097
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 6: UFC fans who come up to me and ask about

2098
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 6: the podcast. Means a lot to Kenny Cody and everybody

2099
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 6: else that works so hard. Will Burger our intern, Thank

2100
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 6: you everybody for putting this show together quickly here after

2101
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,560
Speaker 6: UFC two seventy three. We are back next Sunday in

2102
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Speaker 6: your life with that for Kemp Baum John and we

2103
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 6: will talk to you to that until next week, yo

2104
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 6: fucking later.

2105
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Speaker 3: Huh m hm