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Speaker 1: It starts now play. You shared this out.

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Speaker 2: I just thought this was kind of funny because I've

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Speaker 2: thought about this before. There's a new poll out that

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Speaker 2: shows the percentages of men versus women, yes, who believe

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Speaker 2: that if they had to with guidance from the control

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Speaker 2: tower that's important, they could land a plane. Let's say,

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Speaker 2: if the pilot you know, pass out how to some

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Speaker 2: kind of an event or whatever. I mean, I would

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Speaker 2: just say my confidence level is like very high. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm very confident that if somebody was talking me through it,

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Speaker 2: I could land a plane.

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Speaker 1: I think. By the way, forty six percent of men

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Speaker 1: think that they couldn't land a plane. Twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: women think they could. I'm actually curious, but Buck, I've

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Speaker 1: been up in some small planes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen men and women in parallel park.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying there are some differences here. There are

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Speaker 2: some differences in spatial awareness.

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Speaker 1: I have been in a bunch of these little, these

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Speaker 1: little planes, Ali, if you want to jump on the

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Speaker 1: mic and talk about how small the plane that I

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Speaker 1: had producer Ali with me in in Milwaukee, I think

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Speaker 1: that she was basically going to have to pass out

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Speaker 1: in this plane. But the planes actually have parachutes. And

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Speaker 1: when I have been one and one with the pilot,

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Speaker 1: the pilot has said to me, as we get ready

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Speaker 1: here's what you need to do to help make sure

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Speaker 1: that we get the plane landed. And like they walk

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Speaker 1: through a little bit of a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: tutorial with me, but like these little cirrus planes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of seconds I'm in.

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Speaker 2: If I'm in a propeller helicopter, we're going down. It's

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Speaker 2: a fireball like helicopter, way rotary aircraft way more difficult.

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Speaker 1: I think that one that one.

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Speaker 2: I'd be worried if I if I had to if

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Speaker 2: I had to take the like the stick of a

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Speaker 2: helicopter because the pilot passed out. It's interesting because I

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Speaker 2: think it would be far more intimidating to take the

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Speaker 2: had someone talking you through it, with autopilot things and

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Speaker 2: everything else, yeah, you probably would be. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: you gotta if you have like two hundred people on

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Speaker 2: the plane, that's you're adding a whole lot of stress

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Speaker 2: of the situation. I'm talking about a plane where it's

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Speaker 2: just you know, it's basically me and the pilot and

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Speaker 2: Stewart die. But in that situation, I think that the

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Speaker 2: propeller aircraft don't. I wouldn't pull the shoot on that

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Speaker 2: thing and let us glide down. I think I could

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Speaker 2: land that I'd find some farmers field that'd scatter the sheep.

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Speaker 1: I'd be fine. Ali is Ali there? Ali? How nervous

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Speaker 1: were you to be in the plane that I had

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Speaker 1: That was my worst nightmare. So we got it. Did

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Speaker 1: you get that we tell you this Storybuck. We got

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Speaker 1: it was like one hundred and eighty degrees that day

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Speaker 1: How hot it was out on this runway. And the

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Speaker 2: My first helicopter ride ever ever was in Iraq in

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Speaker 1: That was that was that was a wake up call.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, my uncle did helicopter

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Speaker 2: My rule for combat aircraft is I never want to

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Speaker 2: it up. I want to be really high in the sky.

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Speaker 2: So like they can't shoot me from the ground.

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Speaker 1: No kidding. Sunday Sizzle with Clay in Buck.

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Speaker 2: And Clay if I can just tell you my favorite

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Speaker 2: news story from over the weekend, the thing that really

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Speaker 2: got me excited. New York City is now setting up

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Speaker 2: cameras that will address sound violations from cars, as in

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Speaker 2: cars that have super loud exhausts, super loud engines playing

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Speaker 2: music crazy loud. They can get fine starting an eight

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars. I love this so much that I want

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Speaker 2: I want to fund some of these in Miami Beach.

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Speaker 2: I will write the check for the city's sound cameras

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Speaker 2: on my block because people need to stop being such

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Speaker 2: selfish jerks revving their loud motors.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares.

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Speaker 2: It's a plague for our ears. I could not be

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Speaker 2: more more ticked off about this stuff. I you and sound.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know especially I would if I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: When I hear you discuss sound, I would think that

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Speaker 1: you grew up on like an Iowa farm with no neighbors,

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Speaker 1: like you know, one hundred miles within your your radius

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Speaker 1: playing it as loudly as you possibly could. It feels

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Speaker 1: it seems to happen all the time, right, and you're

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Speaker 1: But between this and Bus twenty seven, you by the

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Speaker 1: time you get to be seven or eighty, unless your

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Speaker 1: hearing goes, which could happen, Yeah, you're gonna need to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Bus twenty seven. I was victorious in that battle.

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Speaker 2: I will say it is now. It now purrs like

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Speaker 2: a kitten that busts no problems. And people need to

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Speaker 2: be held accountable for their noise pollution. And there are

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Speaker 2: city ordinances against this. It is already against the law.

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Speaker 2: Decibels can be and in fact are very is very

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Speaker 2: possible to be measured. And uh yeah, eight hundred dollars fines.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'll volunteer, Clay, I'll give out the tickets myself.

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Speaker 2: I just need the city to deputize me. I'll do

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Speaker 2: it for New York, I'll do it for Miami. Your

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Speaker 2: loud cars. I'm coming for them. Loud car P.

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Speaker 1: I love you with a little notebook, spiral notebooks, Sunday

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Speaker 1: drop with fuck. We have got a ton of people

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Speaker 1: reacting to our airport travel. We're right, I understand people

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Speaker 1: for sixteen straight hours waiting to see whether or not

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Speaker 1: somebody's going to show up or not. Uber exists for

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Speaker 2: Use it, Caleb and Fresno wants to start a ruckus.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Caleb, Hello, you're on air. We're hearing you.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Hey? I wanted to go at it from an angle

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Speaker 3: of relationships. So this is actually coming from a family

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Speaker 3: that's pretty big on taking people to the airport, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know that wasn't a thing until I

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Speaker 3: got married. And my wife is definitely on your side

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Speaker 3: of things. I remember my first trip with an airport

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Speaker 3: when we were first married. She looked at me sideways

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Speaker 3: when I assumed that she would be picking me up

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Speaker 3: much benefit I've seen from the time spending the car

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Speaker 2: So I I'm gonna give you a quick counterport.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Caleb for calling in. See Clay.

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Speaker 2: When I'm forced to go pick someone up at the

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Speaker 2: I'm stuck in that traffic, I start pounding that wheel

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Speaker 2: say on radio because of the fc FCC. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I don't there are lots of places where you can

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Speaker 1: The entire system would be far more efficient. I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to make American airports great again, So I'm trying this.

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Speaker 2: Time for you to get Clay force one man, you know,

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Speaker 2: start doing it that way.

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Speaker 1: Tom has written in not to judge Tom, but he

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Speaker 1: still has an AOL email address. Maybe there's lots of

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Speaker 1: probably going to get deluged by AOL email addressed people now.

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Speaker 1: But here is what Tom had to say. Clay, You've

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Speaker 1: invariably used whomever objective as opposed to whoever nominative, irrespective

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Speaker 1: of which of the two is grammatically correct whomever is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily correct, just because it fun. I mean, my

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Speaker 1: head is already rolling back in my head. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so ashamed for you. Really, I am

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Speaker 2: very anti the word whom. I think it shouldn't exist.

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Speaker 2: I think there are some words that we are trying

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Speaker 2: should say who all the time. I think it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, who is that going to be there?

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Speaker 1: Who called? I'm only going to use the word who.

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Speaker 1: You're never going to hear me say hoops, you're and

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Speaker 1: so Probably if you are a die hard advocate of

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Speaker 1: the word who and its derivative properties, you should know

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Speaker 1: that I don't buy into what you're selling. I am anti.

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Speaker 2: When you were playing in elementary school, you didn't do

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Speaker 2: two four six state whom do we appreciate?

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Speaker 1: No, we definitely didn't say whom do we appreciate? Is

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Speaker 1: that the way it should be. I went to school

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee Buck. The word whom is not used widely

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Speaker 2: We were corrected at my school and told to say,

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Speaker 2: whom do we appreciate?

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that's right. Oh yeah, it definitely

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Speaker 1: was who do we appreciate? The cheerleaders. I used to

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Speaker 1: think that cheerleaders all had new back in high school,

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Speaker 1: but the cheerleaders all had new cheers. And then if

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Speaker 1: you watch Hoosiers, which is maybe the greatest sports movie

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Speaker 1: ever made up in the top five, they all do

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Speaker 1: the same cheers in like nineteen fifties Indiana that everybody

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Speaker 1: still does in twenty twenties America.

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Speaker 2: You know, I never went to an institution that had

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Speaker 2: cheerleaders ever ever, And I just feel like, I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if I'm American. It's just were there girls

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Speaker 2: at your school or did you go to an boys school? Well,

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Speaker 2: I went to an all boys high school, and I

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Speaker 2: went to a co ed college, and there were no

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Speaker 2: cheerleaders at my college either.

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Speaker 1: It's very sad. Yeah, well that isn't.

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Speaker 2: Don't throw a cold small school in the middle of

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Speaker 2: nowhere in the northeast, folks, that's the moral of this.

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Speaker 1: They make a lot of poor choices. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why anyone would be anti cheerleader. I know that they're

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Speaker 1: trying to phase out cheerleaders at some of the woke institutions,

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Speaker 1: and to be fair, there are also not a lot

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the schools that don't have cheerleaders,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a lot of good looking women.

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe it's just a default acknowledgment that they

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Speaker 1: don't want to be putting people in the cheerleading capacity

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Speaker 1: who really shouldn't be cheerleaders. I don't know, is this

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Speaker 1: is this gonna get me in trouble? Is it gonna

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Speaker 1: be like a Victoria's Secret when I said that, you know, androgynists,

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Speaker 1: fat chicks don't sell lingerie very well. I think unattractive

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Speaker 1: cheerleaders don't sell the cheerleading profession. Will strong take I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I defer to your expertise. I think I

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Speaker 1: think I would bet that's why I Amhurst doesn't have

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Speaker 1: h doesn't have cheerleaders, so you have no you know

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Speaker 1: they used to have male cheerleaders. You ever seen the

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Speaker 1: yell leaders at like Texas A and M all male.

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Speaker 2: I am there was a show that had the male

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Speaker 2: and the female cheerleaders for college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Most most colleges still have male female cheerleaders, but

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Speaker 1: they used to because Texas A and M was all male.

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Speaker 1: The yell leaders was one. I think Trent Lott was

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Speaker 1: a UH was a cheerleader back in the day at

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Speaker 1: old myths. I think UH former Governor Rick Perry was

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Speaker 1: a yelle leader at at at TEXA and M. A

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Speaker 1: lot of these schools that only had male students, the

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Speaker 1: male cheerleader was was a very aspired for position. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that that's still street today. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people running around. I know,

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Speaker 1: the Yeale leaders. I'm gonna get blown up now by

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M people in general. I don't think

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Speaker 1: most men want to be cheerleaders. A Yale leader what

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Speaker 1: yell yeah, y e l l oh like yeah, yelle

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Not Yale University yell leaders. Okay, yeah. They

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Speaker 1: lead the cheers because there are specific body movements required

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Speaker 1: during the course of certain cheers that you know, the

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Speaker 1: aggie core of cadets historically would have been involved in

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Speaker 1: and they have cheer yell leading practice the night before

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Speaker 1: at like midnight at at the stadium, which is really

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Speaker 1: a very fun event to go to. It's wacky, it's wonkey.

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Speaker 1: Was very fun and if you haven't ever been to

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Speaker 1: the night before yell practice is very very cool. They

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Speaker 1: actually practice all the cheers