1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: Tors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tyrack 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: Tyrack dot com. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there, and I'm Matt Selection Fast 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: free shipping, free road hazard protection and over ten thousand 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: recommended installers tyreck dot com. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: The way tire buying should be. 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Torris here in the Fox Sports Radio Los Angeles, 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Tyrax Studios. Jason Martin down in Nashville, Jmark, Congrats, you 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: survived two weeks of Arnie Spanner and you live to 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: tell about it. Congratulations, buddy, how are you? 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: I missed you, man, I missed you too. I'm glad 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: to have you back. Yes I have. I've done three 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: shows with Arnie in the last two weeks. Two weeks 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: ago Saturday and Sunday because I was in for Plank 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: and he was in for you, and then last Saturday 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: as well as you were still taking vacation, and then 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: after that point it was just kind of like, all right, now, 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: now things can get back to more normal. Although it's 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: always fun to work with Arnie. We could, but yes, 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: we had a good time and definitely had plenty of 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: things to talk about. That said, I'm glad that we're 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: back here on the flagship. 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, and I appreciate, you know, you give me a 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: few weeks there, and I appreciate Arnie filling in. And yes, 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: for people who are not familiar, you heard j Mart 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: with Arnie the last few weeks. Arnie many years ago, 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: was in this time slot with me. I've done lots 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: of shows with Arnie. Love Arnie, little off the wall. 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes gotta talk a little more Arizona and dolphins than 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: you'd like, But other than that, he's a good guy. 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: So I'll tell you this, Jason. You know, in some 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: ways I feel like I missed a lot, and in 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: some ways I feel like I didn't really miss all 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: that much. I mean, you know, I left for vacation 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: essentially when the NBA Finals was set. I think there was. 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: It was one game left in the Western Commons Finals. 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: The Brook the Boss and Celtics had already clinched. And 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: it was funny because I did put out a tweet 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: right before I left. I said, we want this Western 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: Conference Finals to go as long as possible because we 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: are going to get way too many Caitlin Clark discourses 45 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: if that does not happen. Unfortunately, that's exactly what happened. 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: And we will get to Kitlan Clark here in just 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: a moment. But do you want to start with the 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. Obviously everybody is monitoring, You've been listening to 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: network all day. Everybody shared their thoughts on Game four 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: on Friday night. Dallas Mavericks backs against the wall. They're 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: down three to zero. They obviously have that Game three 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: that they could have won at home. They couldn't pull 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: it out. Luca Fowls, speaking of discourses, there was the 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: big discourse about you know, Luka yelling at the bench 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: and what does it mean? And you know, I actually 56 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: enjoyed the Brian Winhorse rant, but I bring it up 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: to say we got the best version of the Dallas 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Mavericks on Friday night. They win by if my math 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: is correct, thirty eight points in Game five. Before Dallas 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Mavericks survive. Game five will be Monday night in Boston. 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, I agree with you, by the way about 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: whinhorse rant, and he actually stuck by it after Game 63 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: four he said what I said is still true and 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: it is like it doesn't change anything. That Luca came 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: out and played that game. Now he needs to continue 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: to do that. He still let himself fall into that 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: situation in Game three. That said, what I find really 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: interesting is the same thing that happened Friday night in 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: the NBA happened tonight in the NHL. A complete blowout 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: by a team that was trying to stave off a 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: sweep in the finals. Yep, you had at one point 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: like forty plus score for the MAVs and then you 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: have an eight to one game here. And what do 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: both of them mean. I'm not sure they mean anything. 75 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think the hockey does. But to the basketball, 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: this is not a series to me, not until they 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: win another one. They went another one. It gets interesting 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: because at that point it sort of feels on serve again. 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: You have the opportunity then to go back to your 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: building and have one and then force the game seven. 81 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they can do it. I don't know 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: that Celtic's performance was as bad as you will ever see, 83 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and that Mavericks performance, especially from Luca in the first half, 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: was outstanding. Derek Lively is really turning into something during 85 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: this postseason you are seeing him really grow up and 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: be something that they needed him to be. Kyrie kind 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: of came alive and looked a lot more active in 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: Game four as well. Now can they take that that 89 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: little bit of momentum and go to Boston and challenge 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe they can. I mean, I picked them 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: in six. That's obviously not going to happen. 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: But. 93 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I do think that. And I mentioned this to Arnie 94 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: and he disagreed with me, and then I think he 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: actually came back around to it after the fact. I 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: said that the layoff between the end of the Conference 97 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: finals and the NBA Finals was devastating to Dallas and 98 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be that big of a deal to Boston because 99 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: I felt like Boston was during the year more stable, 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: and this is just kind of who they were. We 101 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: knew they were really good. They've been in this situation 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: before them having time off wasn't going to change what 103 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: they fundamentally did. But Dallas felt like they had caught 104 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle. They were that team. What they 105 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: did to Minnesota, they got through Oklahoma City and then 106 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: what they did to Minnesota. They If it were me, 107 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I would not have wanted much time off if I 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: were them, because they were playing with the kind of rhythm. 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: It's like they were lathered up and they were set 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: to go, and then they had to go sit for 111 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: nine days and then they came out and they looked 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: rusty and it just didn't look like the same team again. 113 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: That game on Friday. I mean, that's the best version 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: of the MAVs you'll see. I think the question is, 115 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: can they bring that to Boston at the same time, 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: we know Boston is going to be better. Boston can't 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: play that badly again, and they won't play that badly again. 118 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Can Dallas take some of the lightning that maybe they 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: were covered in Game four back to Boston and make 120 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: it interesting. I don't know yet, but I'm not willing 121 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to call this a series until they actually do that. 122 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little hesitant to call it a series 123 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: as well, just because, like you look at, obviously the 124 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: first two games that had Porzingis, they rolled. But even 125 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: Game three, it was like, it's kind of pretty nip 126 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: and to I mean, Dallas was really in control for 127 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: a big part of that game, right up until probably 128 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: middle of the third quarter when the Celtics made their run. 129 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: And pulled away. So I don't know what to make 130 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: of last night. 131 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: I still think, you know, obviously, look at you know 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: you're three to one, you're going back home. You gotta 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: feel good about about your position that you're in. Nobody 134 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: expected to sweep through the finals. So like, I mean, 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: I can't sit here and say that they expected to 136 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: come back home to Boston. But at the same time, 137 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: you know, this is the finals. I tend to agree 138 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: is that. Listen, that was a backs against the wall game. 139 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Everything went right for Dallas early. And this isn't like 140 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: a knock of the NBA, but we know a seven 141 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: game series sometimes you just got to call off the dogs. 142 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: Like this isn't the NCAA tournament. It isn't single elimination, 143 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: it isn't one and done. And we've seen even the 144 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: great teams, they've had a bad night, a bad this, 145 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: a bad whatever. 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: And I think that's just kind of what it was. 147 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: Last night was just it. 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: They fell behind early, nothing was clicking, nothing could go 149 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: wrong for Dallas. 150 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: Now you get to go home. 151 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: And as you said, Jason, I'm kind of with you 152 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: is that I think the rest probably had no real 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: tangible effect on them in the same way that I 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: do think it probably did impact Dallas just because they 155 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: were playing such good basketball. And I do think, like, 156 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: let's get Boston credit is. I know it's a cliche, 157 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: easy talking point, but I think it's accurate. These guys 158 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: have all been here before. Don't get too high, don't 159 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: get too low. Virtually essentially the entire team has played 160 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals, whether it's true Holliday with another 161 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: team or the core of Tatum and Brown and these 162 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: guys that have played in the finals two years ago 163 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: against Golden State. So you know, I'd love to come 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: out here, you know, prior to Game five, you know 165 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: about whatever, thirty six hours away, for a little over 166 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: under forty eight hours away from Game five. I'd love 167 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: to come out with some smoldering hot take about how 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: this changes everything and whatever. Great win from the Dallas 169 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: Mavericks on Friday night, But I just don't know that 170 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: changes much about this series. 171 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: In my opinion. No, I don't think that it does. Again. 172 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: If Dallas can win again, then we have something interesting. 173 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: Then we have Okay, now there's a little bit of 174 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: meat on this bone. I don't know if they're gonna 175 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: be able to do that or not. The Boston team 176 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: that has shown up for the most part in this 177 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: series has been the better team and the team that 178 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: most people thought would win it all before the playoffs started, 179 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: or certainly would advance to the finals, and if they 180 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: didn't win, they were the one team in the league 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: where it was going to be called a disappointment or 182 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: a failure if they didn't actually finish. It was kind 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: of similar in some ways to Yukon. If Yukon hadn't won, 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: it would have been a disappointment of a seat for 185 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: them in the run to their second national championship. This 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Boston team, and you said it best a couple of 187 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: weeks ago, if not now win or if like you, 188 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: with the run that you had with you know, coming 189 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: up with Brunson getting hurt and all these guys getting 190 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: hurt along the way, that would have made it a 191 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: more difficult task for you. Certainly Halliburton going down and 192 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: not dealing with Donovan Mitchell and even Luca being tweaked 193 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: and questionable going into Game two of the finals and 194 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: all these things. You still have yourself right here. But 195 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: that's a really good basketball team and at times they 196 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: can lull you to sleep, and I think that for 197 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot of us, they may have. It got very 198 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: trendy to pick Dallas watching the way that they again 199 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: were red hot, but the team that came out in 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: Game one was not that team. I think that we're 201 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna know by halftime of Game five whether or not 202 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: we have a series of whether or not we're about 203 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: to see a coordination real quick. Just I think we're gonna. 204 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 3: Know no real quick. And so I actually agree with that. 205 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it feels, you know, it's pretty obvious if 206 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: if if if Dallas wins Game five, then obviously series 207 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: it's good. It's it's a complete game changer. When we 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: last spoke, I think you and I were both a 209 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: little bit hesitant on Boston. Are you surprised at how 210 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: good they looked or how dominant they were or whatever, 211 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, descriptive words that you want to use through 212 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: the first three games, and you know, will you be 213 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: surprised at how easy it ultimately looked if they do 214 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: close things out on Monday. 215 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Night, Yeah, maybe a little bit. But this is the 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Boston team that was supposed to be here. This was 217 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: this is the form of this team that we were 218 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: anticipating seeing and then when they didn't give it to 219 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: us off and on, and when Indiana had an opportunity 220 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: to steal at least three of the four games that 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: they lost in their series, and it just like Boston 222 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: at times was in second gear and then at times 223 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: is in fifth. I think the way they came out 224 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: in Game one, and of course nobody was going to 225 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: predict the Christeps Worzengis was gonna come out and give 226 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: you twenty in that game and just go absolutely nuts 227 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: in the first half. But I think just generally the 228 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: contributions across the board and the defense that they've been playing, 229 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: and just how frustrated they have made both Luca and 230 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: Kyrie look at different times, how they have forced some 231 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: just terrible moves and a lot of turnovers and just 232 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: some bad ball handling, bad decision making and bad shots. 233 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: That's kind of what the Celtics. It's what you expected 234 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: them to do, but it's not necessarily what you thought 235 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: they might do. Like this is what you should do, Boston, 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's what you will do. 237 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: But if they showed up this way, then okay, they're 238 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: actually living up to what they're supposed to in this moment. 239 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: And I do think the discourse last week surrounding Tatum 240 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: versus Brown and kids saying what he said, I thought 241 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: that that was and we talked about it on this 242 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: program with Arnie and you know, maybe it was mind 243 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: games and all this, But the fascinating and interesting thing. 244 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: First off, I agreed with what Jason Kidd said, even 245 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: if he was speaking trying to get get under the 246 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: skin of one person or another. I would take Brown 247 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: over Tatum as well at this stage. But I thought 248 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: it was fascinating that Drew Holliday agreed with it after 249 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: the fact that he said, oh, I don't think what 250 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: kid said is wrong at all, and then he laid 251 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: out what Jaylen Brown had been doing and what he 252 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: had done in the conference finals. I don't that was 253 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: first off. I loved Drew Holiday, and I love his 254 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: honesty and just the way he goes about his business. 255 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: But him to say, yeah, I mean, Jalen Brown's a stud. 256 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's not a problem to have two superstars, 257 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: and when they're both showing up, or at least one 258 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: of them, and then you have those role players, Boston's 259 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: almost impossible to be. 260 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: You know, I have a quick Jalen Brown or Jalen Brown. Yeah, 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, take I'll tell you what. Let's 262 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: come back. We'll briefly continue that conversation. We do have 263 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: to get into the craziness of the week with with 264 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: one Caitlyn Clark, so we'll discuss Caitlin Clark. Next, we 265 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: will continue the conversation about the NBA Finals. 266 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: That's next. 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Listen to over Promised 296 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: with Covino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 297 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts. 298 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Ertorris Jason Martin broadcasting 299 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: live from Thetiack dot Com studios. So Jamart, So I 300 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: was out for the last two weeks, Okay, And you know, 301 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: when you're away from this and away from everything sports 302 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: sports conversation, you start to like reflect on things a 303 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: little bit. And I I will say I'm a little 304 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: bit down on our business and our industry right now, 305 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: and I think, you know, the Caitlin Clark stuff, which 306 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: we'll talk about momentarily, I think heightens like the manufactured 307 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: conversation about everything, like like there are great sports conversations 308 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: to be had, and I also just think there's a 309 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: lot that's manufactured that is not based in any fact 310 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: or whatever. And so I bring it up because I 311 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: really had like that moment of clarity not only with 312 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, but also with the Jalen Brown Jason Tatum discourse. 313 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: Like you know, again, I was a little bit unplugged, 314 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: but you're kind of paying attention to what's going on, 315 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, Jalen Brown's playing really well, 316 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: and it immediately turns into like, I mean, Jalen Brown 317 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: went for thirty four and nine, Jason Tatum's struggling. It's like, 318 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: is Jason Tatum an Alpha? Whose team is it? And 319 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, and it's just you know, listen, I'd be 320 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: lying if I said I haven't had those conversations. 321 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: Is it's Steph's team? 322 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: Is it Kevin Durant like whatever, We've all had those conversations. 323 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: But it just feels totally manufactured. In this case, those 324 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: two guys seem to really like each other. They've been 325 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: teammates for like five six years. Tatum has certainly had 326 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: his moments. He had a fifty point game seven last 327 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: year against Philly, and Jalen Brown's playing better right now, 328 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: and it doesn't seem as though it's bothering Jason Tatum. 329 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he said after Game two, He's like, just 330 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: because I didn't score a lot of points doesn't mean 331 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: I didn't impact the game, which he was one hundred 332 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: percent correct about, by the way. And so this isn't 333 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: like a huge like you know, we need to spend 334 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: ten minutes on it, but it's the whole like Brown 335 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: versus Tatum thing. It's like, Okay, well, Jason Tatum's really awesome. 336 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown has been a little bit more awesome in 337 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: this series, and they're about to be NBA champions, so 338 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: who cares. But I still feel like it's like a 339 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: thing that like we have to like tear down Jason 340 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Tatum build up Jalen Brown. It's it's one of those 341 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: conversations that feels like it's still being manufactured. We should 342 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: be over it. 343 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if. 344 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: There's anything for you to add, but it's just an 345 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: observation that I made, and it's kind of annoying because 346 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: both guys are excellent players and they're gonna, frankly probably 347 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: almost certainly end up being NBA champions this year. 348 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's all really well stated. The 349 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: only thing that I have really said that differentiates the 350 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: two to me, I think overall the better basketball player, 351 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: the one with the most skill, is Tatum. The reason 352 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: I say I would take Brown and in what I 353 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: think there is a separation between the two, and I 354 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: think they compliment each other well in this way. There 355 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: are times when there is a competitive gear that Jalen 356 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: Brown shows that I don't see in Jason Tatum as consistently. 357 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: I think that sometimes he can rest on his talent 358 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: and Jalen Brown has to go that extra mile and 359 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: he does. I feel like when the team plays at 360 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: his heartbeat, they are un stable. When they play at 361 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: Tatum sometimes it's a little bit different. I just think 362 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: that the pulse of the team is more dangerous when 363 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: you're looking at it from Jalen Brown's perspective, and I 364 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: think that that's good for Tatum to have that around 365 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: him because listening to like when Brown was miked up 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: for I think it may have been Game three, one 367 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: of the last two games. The way he talked to 368 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: everybody on the team, from Tatum to Derek White to whomever, 369 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: like he talked like the leader of the team. He 370 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: talked like the guy that was getting everybody together, the 371 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: full crumb of everything that was happening, and everybody listened 372 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: to him, including Tatum. It wasn't There was nothing dismissive here. 373 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: There was nothing going on. The stuff about the MVP 374 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference Finals was garbage. None of that 375 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: needed to be said. That was lowbrow stuff to like 376 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: take one bad screenshot of Tatum before he started cheering 377 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: for Brown's MVP win, to act like he was somehow 378 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: upset like that, right, there is trash like that. That's 379 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that needs to be taken away 380 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: from what we do for a living, because that's just 381 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: trying to get clicks and all that mess. But I 382 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: do think it's a good problem to have. You have 383 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: two guys that I didn't necessarily think did compliment each 384 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: other well for a few years, but I'm wrong, and 385 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: I've seen it this year. One Jylen Brown is just 386 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: he is an outstanding basketball player who goes about his 387 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: business in a really professional manner, and he's just he's 388 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: good at everything outside of going to his left. But Tatum, 389 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: I think needs that guy. He needs somebody that's got 390 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: just a little bit of edge on the floor. It's just, hey, 391 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: we got to go take this thing and not just 392 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: kind of sit back and wait for it. So I 393 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: think that your point is right. They're both outstanding players. 394 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I also think that they benefit from each other. 395 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. And you know, I do wonder. 396 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's an example that I can't think of 397 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: where maybe the most talented player isn't the quote unquote 398 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: alpha or leader or whatever. 399 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: You could argue the heat, You could honestly argue that 400 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade was kind of that was the elder statesman 401 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: between he and Lebron James. 402 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, and listen, look, even when Lebron got to Cleveland, 403 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: who hit the shot that we all want to exactly right? 404 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's not like, you know, we need 405 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: to spend twenty minutes on it, but it just feels 406 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: like and I don't by the way, I don't want 407 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 2: to and I know you know that I'm not this 408 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: person like I don't want to be the sports talk 409 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: radio guy that doesn't have a strong opinion. I just 410 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: feel like at this point, this this conversation is being 411 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: manufactured because ultimately, if you're an NBA champion and Jalen 412 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: Brown played better in the playoffs, but guess what, you're 413 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: the NBA champion, I don't know that it really matters. 414 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 3: There's twenty nine teams that would love to have that promt. 415 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just kind of look at it and say, 416 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: I'd rather not have a strong opinion than make one up. 417 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe that's the right way. 418 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: I think that's more it. I mean, yes, I know 419 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: what I could say here. I just prefer not to 420 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: do that. There's plenty of other people in the business 421 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: to do that, and you know, God bless them, they 422 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: make a good living for doing it. But that's just 423 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going down that pathway. No. 424 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I have strong opinions about stuff that other 425 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: people would disagree. 426 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: With, including where we're going next. 427 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I was thinking more like Ryan Day 428 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: when I when our buddy Ryan Day, I bought my 429 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher. Oh yeah, well, poor guy, I don't know 430 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: if you're gonna get to dust that one of dust 431 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: the cobwebs off that one anytime soon, because that guy's uh, 432 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: living the high life, and I don't know, I don't 433 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: know he's coming back to football anytime soon. But there 434 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: is one person that certainly garners quite a bit of conversation. 435 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: That's of course, Kitlyn Clark, and I know you and 436 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: I both have a lot to say about this week. 437 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: And remember we used to have this week in baseball. 438 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this week in the Caitlin Clark discourse. 439 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: That is that is the new thing in sports. 440 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: So tell you what. 441 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll talk about the latest with Caitlyn Clark. 442 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: Indiana fever that's next. Before we do, let's toss it 443 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: over the news desk, Stave the Sager. Good to see you, 444 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: my friend, how gat to see you, and welcome back. 445 00:21:53,640 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 2: And if only mel Allen were narrated again tomorrow. By 446 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: the way, Indiana now four and ten host Chicago. We 447 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: had two w NBA games today, Connecticut and New York winners. 448 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: Not that anything happened with the University of Connecticut, by 449 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: the way, while you were gone Aaron toileas. 450 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: If you had just followed me, you would have known 451 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: there was never anything to worry about about that. 452 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 7: Lakers did interview JJ Reddick today for their head coach opening. 453 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 7: You were talking NBA. The Finals continue Monday, with Boston 454 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 7: up three games to one and hosting Dallas. Great stat 455 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 7: from AP that never in the last sixty years of 456 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 7: NBA Finals has a team been trailing three games to 457 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 7: one while they're outscoring the opposition in the four games. 458 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: I saw somebody reference that. 459 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 7: Ye yeah, because Boston had won ten straight postseason games 460 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 7: until losing by thirty eight points last game. So still, 461 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 7: no NBA team has ever gone through its final two 462 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 7: rounds without a loss. Well, the hockey season continued tonight. 463 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 7: Edmonton got a home win of eight one over Florida. 464 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 7: Still the most lopsided game in the fun is an 465 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 7: eight to nothing Pittsburgh victory at Minnesota early nineties, but 466 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 7: Florida's lead is three games to one now with Game 467 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 7: five at Florida on Tuesday night. Bryson Deshamba leads the 468 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 7: US opened by three strokes after a third round sixty seven. 469 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 7: Rory McElroy is tied for second place. Bengals wide receiver 470 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 7: T Higgins signed his franchise tag programming note. The UFL 471 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: championship game is tomorrow on Fox TV five pm Eastern time, 472 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 7: Birmingham against San Antonio. At the EUROSCCER tournaments, Spain and 473 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 7: Switzerland with wins today and Italy defeated Albania two to 474 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 7: one on Fox. Albania's only goal came in the first 475 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: thirty seconds. Among the Sunday games a couple on FS 476 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 7: one Netherlands against Poland nine am Eastern and then at 477 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 7: noon Eastern on FS one Denmark against Slavinia. England's game 478 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 7: tomorrow will be on Fox TV three pm Eastern time, 479 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 7: England against Serbia. To Major League Baseball, the Dodgers are 480 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 7: trailing and they lost their starting pitcher due to some 481 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 7: measure of injury tonight. Maybe we'll find out more after 482 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 7: the game, but Kansas City's in the lead in LA 483 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 7: seven to two and the ninth. The Dodger starting pitcher 484 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 7: tonight was Yoshinobu Yamamoto six and two record. He left 485 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 7: after two innings. Triceps tightness is what the team calls it. 486 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 7: His velocity was down tonight. In the two other late 487 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 7: games it's bottom of the eighth at Colorado, Rockies ten 488 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 7: to four over the Pirates, and there's a game on 489 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 7: FS one from Arizona. The White Sox are winning two 490 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 7: to one over the Diamondbacks. In the top of the fifth. 491 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 7: The White Sox are eighteen and fifty three this year. 492 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 7: On Fox TV, Boston beat the Yankees tonight eight to four. 493 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 7: Juan Soto did hit his eighteenth homer. Detroit won at 494 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 7: Houston today thirteen to five, as Houston pitcher Justin Verlander 495 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: was scratched from his start with his sore neck. Baltimore 496 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 7: over Philadelphia six to two. The Cubs beat Saint Louis 497 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 7: five to one, winning pitchers. Show to Imanaga is seven 498 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 7: and one. Oakland at Minnesota rained out. They'll play a 499 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 7: doubleheader tomorrow. And speaking of rain, after a big thunderstorm 500 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 7: at Omaha, they have I've started the late game just 501 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: about fifteen minutes ago Florida against Texas A and M 502 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 7: so they're scoreless in the first at this hour long 503 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 7: rain delay at the start. No rain expected tomorrow. The 504 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 7: Sunday forecast is ninety five degrees in windy there. But 505 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 7: we've had three games so far in the tournament and 506 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 7: three walkoffs. North Carolina and number one Tennessee yesterday and 507 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: then today Kentucky and ten innings beat NC State five 508 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 7: four on a two out home run at the College 509 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 7: World Series. 510 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox 511 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Tors Jason Martin broadcasting 512 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studios. So one thing 513 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: that when I left, like I said, and I said 514 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: this to lead the show, but I left right as 515 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: the conference finals were kind of ramping up. We're kind 516 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: of closing down. Excuse me, Boston, I believe had already clinched. 517 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: I think there was one more game in the Western 518 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: Conference Finals. I bring it up because I remember thinking 519 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: at the time, I'm my goodness, if we go six, seven, 520 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: eight days without an NBA game to discuss the Caitlyn 521 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Clark discourses are going to be insane. Well, I'll bring 522 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: it up because I've been off, you know whatever, ten 523 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: days or so. We've blown There's been about seven different 524 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: ones since I left. I missed the whole Olympics conversation 525 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: that is so a week ago. But there is a 526 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: new one, Jason. So let's set this up Caitlin Clark, 527 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: obviously Indiana Fever, prior to the game on Thursday night, 528 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: was asked a question, Mary, do we have that first 529 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: sound piece of audio? Okay, go ahead and play this. 530 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark questioned an answer from Thursday night. 531 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: I think no matter what you do or what it's 532 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: done to you, it would become for top of the nationally, 533 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of times it becomes to life year. 534 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 8: I wonder from your standpoint, how do you feel about 535 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 8: people using young man in whatever culture wars or whatever 536 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 8: wars or five? 537 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: How do you about that? 538 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 9: It's not something I can control, so you know, I 539 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 9: don't put too much thought and time into thinking about 540 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 9: things like that. And to be honest, I don't see 541 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 9: a lot of it. Like I've said, like fastball's my job, 542 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 9: like everything on the outside, I can't control that, So 543 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 9: I'm not going to spend time thinking about that. You know, 544 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 9: people can talk about what they want to talk about, 545 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 9: creating conversations about, you. 546 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: Know, whatever it is. 547 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 9: But I think for myself, like you know, I'm just 548 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 9: here to play basketball. 549 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: Perfectly reasonable answer what any parent I would assume. I'm 550 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: not a parent, but Jason, you probably would he tell 551 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: your kids, hey, control you can control, focus on what 552 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: keep the main thing, the main thing. Unfortunately, that very 553 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: reasonable answer was not satisfactory, and then we got this question, 554 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: Klen how you mentioned that you know. 555 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 8: You want to focus right on basketball. 556 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: We definitely respect that. When just ask you oritional people 557 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: use your name, racist or usage or whatever, what is 558 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: your response to beast? 559 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's disappointing. I think everybody in our world, 560 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 9: you know, who serves them the same amount of respect. 561 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 9: The women in our league deserve the same amount of respect. 562 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 9: So people should not be easy my name to church 563 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 9: those agendas. She's disappointing. 564 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: That was Caitlyn Clark now addressing again she was asked 565 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: about people using her name in quote unquote culture war. 566 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: She said, I focus, I keep the main thing the 567 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: main thing. 568 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: Can't talk about what we can't control, can't control what 569 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: people talk about. That wasn't enough. Followed up did say 570 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: that she didn't like people using their names. Jason, are 571 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: you a fan of Greek history? Because they used to say, 572 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: I won't. I'll just get to the point here. They 573 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: used to say Helen of Troy was the woman her 574 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: face launched a thousand ships Caitlyn Clark launched a thousand 575 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: takes by simply deciding to say one that she's just whatever, 576 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, whatever. Then when she had the audacity to say, yeah, 577 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: I know, you probably shouldn't be using my name, my goodness, 578 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: where the takes on fire yesterday, Jason, I know you 579 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: have a lot of thoughts on not so much what 580 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: she said, but more so the reaction to what. 581 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: She said yesterday or Thursday should say I think the 582 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: basketball is deteriorating before our eyes, and I mean the basketball, 583 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: because that's not to talk anymore. What she does on 584 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: the floor is becoming largely irrelevant because everybody wants a 585 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: piece of Caitlyn Clark for their ideology. They want a 586 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: piece of Caitlyn Clark so that they can basically use 587 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: her as a symbol to push whatever it is that 588 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: they need to push. And that's on all sides. It 589 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: is every one of us has anybody that says they're 590 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: completely neutral on anything. As a liar, it's impossible not 591 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: to have an opinion on something. We talked about not 592 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: having a scorching hot take, but at the same time 593 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: we probably lean in one direction or another. But when 594 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: it comes to Caitland Clark, she's the lightning rud. I 595 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: remember sending you a message a couple of months prior to, 596 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: or maybe during the during the Iowa run in the 597 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, where I said, watch what happens when she 598 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: gets to the WNBA, and watch how they treat her, 599 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: and watch how the players go after her, and all 600 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: of these kinds of things. 601 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: You literally said, I'm afraid she might get hurt. And 602 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: I was even like, dude, come on, And that was 603 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: one of the many discourses that I missed. That's not 604 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: what we're talking about now, But you did say that 605 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: back in probably February March. 606 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: So what she's being asked to do right now is 607 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: she's saying, look, I just want to play basketball. She's 608 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: not out leading rallies saying anything about anybody. She's not 609 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: out there speaking against one group or another. All she's 610 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: doing is being Caitlin Clark. Now, she's super competitive and 611 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: she trash talks like everybody else in the WNBA and 612 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: everybody else in every team sport. But she is also 613 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: who she is. She is from the Midwest, she's white, 614 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: she's straight. She plays basketball at a very high level, 615 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: and unfortunately that's just not good enough. It's not good 616 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: enough on the WNBA side, because she needs to be 617 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: a champion of the message. She needs to be a 618 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: champion of what they're a champion of. And really she 619 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: just wants to play basketball. And because her stardom has happened, 620 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: then everything that she does gets magnified. But to assume 621 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: that she needs to answer for everybody that goes on 622 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: too some forum and says something that is objectively racist 623 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: or whatever like that. And I don't mean the stuff 624 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: that you try to draw that out of it. I 625 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: mean like the blatant comments, which I'm sure there are some. 626 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: I haven't really seen any of them, but I'm sure 627 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: there are some. It's not her responsibility to do that. 628 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: We don't ask that of people, at least we don't 629 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: ask that of one half of the political aisle. One 630 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: thing that I find fascinating is if you happen to 631 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: be a conservative politician and somebody does something crazy on 632 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: your side of the aisle, every single one of them 633 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: is asked, do you agree with this? Should should this 634 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: be allowed? You need to speak out against this? All 635 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. It doesn't happen on the other 636 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: side of the Aisle. Caitlin Clark has to answer for 637 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: all of this because she's not on the right side, 638 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: because she doesn't fit the right bill. It has nothing 639 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: to do with her basketball. When you want to look 640 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: at the USA thing, people were bending over backwards to say, 641 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: from a basketball perspective and a team chemistry perspective, you 642 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: can't put her on the team and all this kind 643 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: of stuff. I have my say about that last week. 644 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: Everybody else has had their say anyway, but they're twisting 645 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: themselves into knots to try and explain why it's a 646 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: basketball thing when nothing about this has anything to do 647 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: with basketball. I don't even just mean the US thing. 648 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean every take that you see is increasingly less 649 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: about her stats, less about her growth as a player, 650 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: less about what she's doing as a rookie and where 651 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: she's learning and where she's still has time to grow, 652 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: and more about the latest person that said something to 653 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: her or mocked her on the floor or pushed her down, 654 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: or this person that asked her this question in this 655 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: press conference, or she didn't have the right answer to 656 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: this or this and that, and it's sad. As powerful 657 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: as she could be from a star perspective. I feel 658 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: true sympathy for her because she cannot just be a 659 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: basketball player now. She can't just actually go out and 660 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: do what she says she's doing because they're not going 661 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: to allow it. They would rather their league fail in 662 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: a spectacular dumpster fire than her be the face of it. 663 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: It drives them insane. They can say that this isn't 664 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: true all that they want, but their actions, their words, 665 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: and even the mouthpieces in the media seem to make 666 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: it obvious. 667 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's incredible. And that was it was interesting 668 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: because again, just just be in a way. You know, 669 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: you're watching from a distance. You know, I mostly had 670 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: my phone away, but you would see stuff and I 671 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: bring it up because it. 672 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: Really just struck me. 673 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: Is we're no longer talking about again, exactly what you said. 674 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: We're not talking about man, she went five for seventeen 675 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: from the field last night. 676 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: What does that mean? She has become? 677 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: And I think yesterday Friday is the most egregious example 678 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: of it to date. 679 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: She's a political pawd now. 680 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: She is the vehicle that people use to make a 681 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: point about whatever societal ills one way or another. 682 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: I won't take your Greek analogy she's the trojan horse. Yeah, 683 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: she's They're inside the trojan horse. They're just using her 684 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: to then push their point of view. 685 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw it yesterday. I'm not gonna name a name, 686 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: but we all know who it is. One of the 687 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: most prominent voices in sports media decided to use her 688 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: comments about not wanting to comment on Donald Trump Rural America. 689 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: There was a lot of bizarre takes and it just 690 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: struck me. She she is no longer a basketball player. 691 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: She is a political pawn. Everybody is using her as 692 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: a mouthpiece to get whatever point across they want. I'll 693 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: tell you what, Jason, I do have more thoughts on this, 694 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: and I have a broader question that needs to be 695 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: discussed as far as Kaitlyn Clark and really just frankly, 696 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: the discourse around Kaitlin Clark, because again, Kaitlyn Clark just 697 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: wants to play basketball, but the discourse around her and 698 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: the people that want to talk other things won't allow it. 699 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: So we'll come back one big question about Kaitlyn Clark. 700 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: That's next. 701 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 10: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er 702 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 10: towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com Studios, 703 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 10: eleven forty nine Eastern Time, eleven minutes from Father's Day 704 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 10: on the East Coast. 705 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. 706 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 2: So Jaymark, before the break, we were talking a little 707 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: bit about a lot about Caitlyn Clark and really how 708 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: at this point, for whatever reason, it's no not for 709 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: whatever reason, it's just it is what it is. It's 710 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: no longer really about basketball. I I to use any 711 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: I can't think of another term to you. She's a 712 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: political pond. People are on either side are using her 713 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: to get whatever message, whatever message they want to talk about. 714 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: They're using her as the vehicle to get there. And 715 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: it was funny because I was thinking about, you know, 716 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: obviously we played all the audio, but it wasn't just 717 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: the audio. 718 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: It was then the players in the league. 719 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 2: That we're saying, you know, the whole you know, how 720 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: can you not stand up for this? How can you 721 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: not stand up for that? Blah blah blah. And it's 722 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 2: just it's so interesting to me. And I was thinking 723 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 2: about this is that everybody you know, and I saw 724 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: even some people are like, she has an obligation to 725 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: speak out on blah blah blah blah, blah, And it's like, 726 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: I just I find it interesting, and it's it's it's 727 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: a question, but it's not a question. Is it's just 728 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: wild to me? Is that one that we expect our 729 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 2: athletes who literally they're training, they don't have time to 730 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: read up on the gaza strip and you know this 731 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: political issue and that political issue whatever. But it is 732 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: kind of amazing, isn't it, Jason. We all want athletes 733 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: to speak out as long as it's with a message 734 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: that we agree with. Like when Aaron Rodgers speaks out 735 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 2: about the VACS, I don't hear a lot of people saying, 736 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: thank god Aaron Rodgers shared his stance on whatever. But 737 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: then you have this guy talking about that issue, that 738 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: girl talking about that issue, And it's like, I give 739 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: Katelin Clark so much credit because she's just not playing 740 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: the game. She's just not going down the road that 741 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: people want her to go down, because I truly believe, 742 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: in my heart of heart, she does just want to 743 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: play basketball, and I actually feel bad that she continues 744 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: to be put in these situations where people are like 745 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 2: pere pressuring her to have an opinion on things that frankly, 746 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: she probably just doesn't have an opinion because she's in 747 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: the gym playing basketball twelve thirteen hours a day. 748 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: Yep, that's right, and it's not good enough, and nothing 749 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: is going to be good enough. There is a movement 750 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: against her that she's not going to be able to stop. 751 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: So look, actually, it's a saddening situation because now even 752 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: her basketball stats are not going to be about basketball. 753 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: When she has thirty, it's going to be cheers from 754 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: one side, and when she has five, it's going to 755 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: be cheers from the other side. Because it's all trying 756 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: to confirm an existing worldview. It's not about actually learning anything. 757 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: It's not about letting her be her own person, it's 758 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: not about any of these things. Since the world made 759 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: her a star, since the country made her a star, 760 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: now she's obligated to do all these things, and if 761 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to do it, it's not going to 762 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: be good enough, and she's going to be talked about 763 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: in really negative ways for a long time. You know, 764 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: it's not surprisingly, but I think the most one of 765 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: the most salient points that I've heard made about Caitlin 766 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: Clark's situation came from Serena Williams. Yep, Serena Williams on 767 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: Thursday said, I love that she tries to stay grounded. 768 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: She says she doesn't look at her social media. I 769 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: get it. I don't either. I think it's so important 770 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: to just continue to do what she's doing, no matter 771 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: what other people do. If people are negative, it's because 772 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: they can't do what you do. Hopefully she'll continue to 773 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: do what she's doing. And then you've got veteran reporters 774 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: writing things like, well, Kitlin Clark finally got it right, 775 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: and all this other kind of stuff, and throwing all 776 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: this stuff at her because she doesn't have this political 777 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: stance or that. Think about her age, think about her 778 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: rookie season and how she's learning and she's growing and 779 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: all of these things. But no, she has to speak 780 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: out against everything that you want her to speak out against. 781 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: And if she happened to be speaking out four things 782 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: that you didn't like, it wouldn't be good enough. Either. 783 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: She can't even have her own opinion. She has to 784 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: have yours. If she doesn't have yours, she loses, and 785 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: if she doesn't have any, she loses. So what is 786 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: she supposed to do. She's supposed to say, I'm just 787 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: concentrating on the basketball, which is exactly what she said. 788 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: And guess what, that wasn't enough either. This has become 789 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 1: tiresome and it honestly is exposing everyone except Caitlin Clark. 790 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so really quick, that's the last thing we're up against. 791 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: It. 792 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 2: What I keep going back to, I understand why listen. 793 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: I don't think it's right. I think players I hate 794 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: to say it, I'm just gonna say it. I don't 795 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: care if it's on popular. Sheould be grateful for the 796 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: audience that she's brought in, But where is the commissioner? 797 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: Like, where are the adults. 798 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: In the room? 799 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: You know, I don't even know. 800 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: I don't even know how to fully explain it, but 801 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: it's like, where is the commissioner showing any level of 802 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: gratitude having her back publicly? 803 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: I don't know. 804 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: I just I feel like this is such a colossal 805 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: failure at every level of basketball. The Olympic Committee, the WNBA, 806 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 2: the Indiana Fever, teammates not having a back, coaches not 807 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: having her back. 808 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: Whatever. 809 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, we got a lot more to 810 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: talk about, including the Los Angeles Lakers. 811 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 3: Do they have a coach? What's going on? That's next. 812 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: Foxports thirty. 813 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 814 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two tours and Martin, Fox Sports Radio. 815 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting that. I from the tyreck dot Com studios. 816 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: Tyrerec dot com. We'll help you get there. And I'm 817 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: Matt Selection fast free shipping, free road hazard protection and 818 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommended installers tirec dot com the way 819 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: tire buying should be. It is midnight Eastern on the 820 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,959 Speaker 2: East Coast, obviously, which means it's Sunday. It's Father's Day. 821 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there, Jamart, 822 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: I know it's still Saturday in Nashville, but happy Father's 823 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: Day to you, my man. You guys, got any fun 824 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: plans for tomorrow or today or whatever day it is? 825 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: No? Not really, I mean, nothing too fancy. I had 826 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: some minor surgery on Friday, so I'm just kind of 827 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: in recovery mode this weekend, so I'll probably be watching 828 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: some college baseball tomorrow. Got the UFL Championship and relaxed. 829 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's true, I forgot all about that. 830 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 3: What more could a father ask for? 831 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: US Open Final Round? True? That is and a good 832 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean look, you got Bryson Deshamba and Rory McElroy 833 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: in the top three, and who knows what happens because 834 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: it's the US Open, So I think there's definitely something 835 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: compelling happening in Pinehurst tomorrow. 836 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 2: So US Open is tomorrow, UFL is tomorrow, NBA Finals 837 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: is on Monday. But Happy Father's Day to all the 838 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 2: fathers out there. But you're feeling okay, by the way, 839 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: j Martin, not to put too much on you here 840 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: to lead the hour, but you know you said minor surgery. 841 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 2: Everything's I assume everything's okay if you're here. But everything's okay, 842 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 2: everything's good. 843 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: Just had to get the leg cut on a little 844 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: bit yesterday. Nothing, nothing too big. Just requires about a 845 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: week of being kind of cautious and not being on 846 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: my feet too much. But we're gonna be just fine. 847 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: Perfect well, plenty plenty to watch tomorrow. Happy Father's Day 848 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: to everybody out there. For those on the East Coast, 849 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: it is Sunday, uh. And for those on the East Coast, 850 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: especially in the Northeast, you got your your college basketball 851 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 2: coach back at the University Connecticut Jays. Let's talk big 852 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: picture Lakers. First of all, I'm curious, you know, you 853 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: and Arnie came on last Saturday, kind of in the 854 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 2: heat of Dan Hurley hysteria. What did I want to 855 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: talk about the JJ Reddick portion of this? Obviously, as 856 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: de Segre just told us, he did officially interview today, 857 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: But what was your take on the entire Hurly situation? 858 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 2: Obviously I had my thoughts and I'll share them momentarily, 859 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: But curious, just did you buy that story? Did you 860 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 2: not buy it? 861 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 6: Like? 862 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: What? 863 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 9: What? 864 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: What? 865 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 3: What were your thoughts on. 866 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: That when I first heard it, When I you know, 867 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: when we woke up Thursday and that was the storyline 868 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: and you had the woes. I actually sent Arnie a 869 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: text and I was like, well, this has got to 870 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: be done right, Like, this doesn't leak out if they 871 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: don't already have this thing almost done, because it becomes 872 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: a real egg on your face situation if you don't 873 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: get this. So it just doesn't seem like this is 874 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: something that would even get revealed. Because Dan Hurley's name, 875 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: to my at least to my eyes, I had not 876 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: seen it anywhere up until that point. Now it made 877 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: sense when I was like, okay, well, of course maybe 878 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: they were talking to him, but I hadn't seen that report. 879 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 1: He wasn't in the list of candidates, he wasn't in 880 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: the the odds that we were getting emailed, none of 881 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So when I saw it, like, oh, okay, 882 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: well obviously this has been going on behind closed doors. 883 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: But it got very quiet, very quickly, like you had 884 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: what happened on Thursday and then Friday. Okay, he's gonna 885 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: take the weekend and he's going to talk to them. 886 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: And my immediate thought was if he ends up back 887 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: on the East Coast, he's going nowhere. And by the 888 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: time we hosted, Arnie and I hosted on Saturday, we 889 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: predicted the end of the show what was going to 890 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: be true for Dan Hurley, and I said, he's going 891 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: to turn them down. He's going to turn that job down. 892 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there's I felt pretty confident about it. 893 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: And then I got an email from you know, the 894 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: one of the people that does Fox kind of their 895 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: betting stuff that that sends out stuff to the staff, 896 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: and he said they had I think it was eighty 897 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: percent he was going to leave. And I was like, really, 898 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: what do they know that I don't because I don't 899 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: think he's going anywhere. And so when you found out 900 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: he was going to make the decision on Monday, I 901 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: just said, there's no way you would have gone to 902 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: the East coast to then leave. So I predicted he 903 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: was not going to leave, even before I knew that 904 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: he had gone back east, and then of course he didn't, 905 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: and then I started wondering how serious this ever was so. 906 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 2: To me, So first of all, did you did you 907 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 2: guys see the video of him at the concert while 908 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: you guys were on air on Saturdy. 909 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I already mentioned it. Actually he mentioned He says, 910 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: what does this mean? I said, I don't know what 911 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: it means. He goes, Is he celebrating because he's he's 912 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: just taking a big payday with the Lakers. I'm like, 913 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: he's probably celebrating because he's had a concert and he's 914 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: Dan Hurley and he's living his best life right now. 915 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it really means anything one way or 916 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: the other about his decision. 917 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting, I obviously being away, but I 918 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 2: got sent that video and so just I'm not taking 919 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: a victory lap, but I never thought it was real. 920 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you it was crazy for me because 921 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: one obviously my ties to Yukon, but I you know, 922 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: I was on vacation and it was my last day 923 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: and we were going to the airport. But the story 924 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: broke it like the initial story, the first story of 925 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: you know, that he's meeting, that they're going to meet, 926 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: and that he's the primary candidate. 927 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: Whatever. 928 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 2: It broke it like six point fifty eight Eastern time 929 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 2: or something, And so I actually woke up pretty early 930 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: on the West coast on Thursday because I had to 931 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: catch a flight at like six am, and by then 932 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,479 Speaker 2: there were already two three news cycles that had gone 933 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 2: with it. And I'll just you know, I'll be honest 934 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 2: from my perspective, like nothing about it really added up 935 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 2: first of all. And I said this at the time. 936 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's never been a prominent job opening in 937 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: the history of job openings in which you know, Woch 938 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: tried to sell it as, oh, he's been the leader 939 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: all along, and it's like, well, no one's ever waited 940 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: five weeks to talk to the person that they when 941 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 2: he when he or she was available, So right away, 942 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 2: that doesn't pass the smell test. In the article from 943 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: woj Uh, it didn't pass the smell test of you know, 944 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 2: there was there was a quote in the article about 945 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 2: like not a quote, but a you know, a paragraph 946 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: where he's like, you know, and and the opportunity to 947 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: develop Bronnie James, and I was like, that is not 948 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 2: why Dan Hurley's thinking about that, And it felt like 949 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 2: kind of a planted story from both sides. And I 950 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: actually took the concert to mean, like I think Dan 951 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 2: Hurley is. I know, he's obviously a very intelligent guy. 952 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 2: I think he's smart enough to know not only from 953 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: the fan perspective of how bad it would look if 954 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: he took that job, but also you know, his players 955 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 2: are on social media too, and I think if you're 956 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 2: out partying on a Saturday night Sunday, you break their hearts. 957 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 3: It's a good point it Yeah, I'll tell you. You know, 958 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 3: it's funny. 959 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: The only moment where I it's so funny, the only 960 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 2: moment where I actually thought that he was leaving. It 961 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: was so crazy all weekend long, I said, this is 962 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: to get a raise, and I know Dan Hurley Sen 963 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 2: said that that's stupid, that it's not about leverage, blah blah. 964 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 2: I said, it's only to get him a new contract, 965 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 2: to get whatever he wants, and then it's also a 966 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: cover for the Lakers so they can hire JJ Redick. 967 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 2: The only moment where I was nervous and it's so funny, 968 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 2: the last fifteen minutes and you're not really on social 969 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: as much, and that's a decision you've made. I totally 970 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 2: respect it, but I say it to say. Right before 971 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: the announcement became official, there was video from the facility 972 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 2: of Dan Hurley's wife showing up to the facility, and 973 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 2: everybody on social media was like, well, I mean, you 974 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: don't show up if you're leaving, and I'm like, I 975 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 2: actually think it's the exact opposite, Like does she show 976 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 2: up on a normal Monday, like you know, So there 977 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: was like one thing for like seventy two hours. 978 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 3: I was like, he's not leaving. 979 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 2: We're good. He's not leaving, We're good. And the last 980 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: fifteen minut I was like, why would his wife show 981 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 2: up if they weren't saying goodbye? So anyway, it's done. 982 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 2: You know, JJ Reddick is interviewing, you know, I want 983 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: to get to JJ Reddick maybe on the other side, 984 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: but I want to start with this Jason, because this 985 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: was another thing that to me like There was only 986 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: one thing that I was really surprised by about the 987 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: conversation about the Dan Hurley aspect, which was and again, 988 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 2: whenever I say anything, I'm the Homer Yukon guy. I'm 989 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 2: out to touch him out of perspective whatever. But people 990 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 2: were like, well, wait, when the Lakers call, you don't 991 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: turn down the Lakers. And I said like, wait, wait 992 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: a second. Now you know, Jerry Buss ain't walking through 993 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 2: that door, Magic Johnson ain't walking through that door. Kobe 994 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 2: ain't walking through that door. And my question for you, Jason, 995 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 2: and maybe I'm a little biased because my coach turned 996 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 2: it down, but in a moment whatever, I don't think 997 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: the Lakers job is desirable right now because if you 998 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 2: look at it, and this was something I was saying, 999 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: was like, you look at it from Dan Hurley's perspective. 1000 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 2: The last coach of the Lake made the Western Conference 1001 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 2: finals and got fired a year later. The coach before 1002 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: that won in NBA title and was fired within two years. 1003 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 2: And so this is not me saying that Dan Hurley 1004 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 2: will never leave yu Kon, but to leave everything he's 1005 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 2: built on the precipice of almost unprecedented history of your 1006 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: going for three straight and nobody's done that in forever. 1007 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 2: To leave that for a place where you have two 1008 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 2: bad weeks, you know that first story is gonna oh, 1009 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 2: you know the you know the the sources in the 1010 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: Lakers locker room say whatever. I just that was the 1011 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 2: part that I didn't understand was like, I don't feel 1012 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 2: like the Lakers job with a forty year old Lebron 1013 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: James who's going to demand, whether it's public or not, 1014 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 2: that you draft his son, is that a good job 1015 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, because I 1016 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 2: don't think that it is. 1017 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: Personally, No, it's not at all. And that was one 1018 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: of the things that we talked about last week. You 1019 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: are almost walking into a surefire rebuild a couple of 1020 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: years from now. First off, he's gonna leave pretty soon, 1021 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be done, and then it's going to be 1022 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: I guess Anthony Davis's team. But there's a lot of 1023 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: work that needs to be done. There's been a lot 1024 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 1: of bad decisions made, and you've fallen behind I think 1025 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: this season from a talent standpoint compared to the rest 1026 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: of the conference. You're seeing other teams on the come up, 1027 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: while at best, you stayed where you were, and if 1028 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: you stayed where you were as everyone else advanced, you 1029 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: actually fell behind. So you look at all of that, 1030 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: the fact that you're coming off of back to back 1031 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: national championships at Yukon on the East Coast, where your 1032 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: family loves to be Arnty made a pretty salient point. 1033 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: I thought as well. He said, if this is a 1034 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: NIXT job, we might have a different conversation here. I 1035 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: agree with and I think he's right that I think 1036 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: the East would make sense. I don't think the Lakers 1037 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: made sense for Dan Hurley. And I remember, you know, 1038 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: seeing Oh it's they're gonna be must watch with Dan Hurley, 1039 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, are they really like what? I? I mean? 1040 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: He might be interesting and maybe there's a Harball factor 1041 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: here a little bit or something, But as long as 1042 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 1: Lebron James is there, he's taken all the oxygen. And 1043 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: I just don't know that I looked at it. I 1044 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 1: was just like, of the two situations. The only thing 1045 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: that I continue to look at when any college coach 1046 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: is rumored towards an NFL position, NBA position, whatever, I 1047 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: understand it because I wouldn't want to be part of 1048 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 1: that nil stuff. Either, I wouldn't want to be part 1049 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: of the NCAA now cannot enforce anything, even up to 1050 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: an unlimited transfer. Guys can leave however they want, whenever 1051 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: they want all these things. Maybe that is not an 1052 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: environment you want to be in. Nick Saban, I think 1053 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: he was done at that point. Jay Wright saw the 1054 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: writing on the wall. Maybe he didn't want that party either. 1055 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: You look at Dan Hurley, You're as hot as you're 1056 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: ever going to be. You have thought about the NBA 1057 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: in the past, maybe long before you've won a couple 1058 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: national championships, but your ego would like to win at 1059 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: that level. So it made sense from just like a 1060 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view standpoint, But not for the Lakers. 1061 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: That was the biggest part of it, where it's just 1062 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it for the Lakers, but not 1063 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: for Dan Hurley. I actually think his spot at Connecticut 1064 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: is much better. The worst job in sports is to 1065 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: be Lebron James's head coach at this point in his career. Yeah, 1066 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: there's nothing good that comes from that. The success is 1067 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: not gonna go to you talk to all the coaches 1068 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: that he's won with, if you can remember their names, 1069 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: but anything that goes wrong is gonna fall on you. 1070 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: It's not gonna fall on him because just let's face it, 1071 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: Lebron has a lot of people that write a lot 1072 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: of words and talk a lot on television that are 1073 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: pretty close to him and Rich Baul and so it 1074 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: it puts that onus, on you, and so all of 1075 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: this just kind of it just it never felt like 1076 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: Dan Hurley should do this. I looked at him just 1077 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,959 Speaker 1: I understand the money, but I feel like I would 1078 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: bet on myself rather than taking this. You can get 1079 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: a better job than this. I know it's the Lakers, 1080 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: but this is not the showtime Lakers that HBO has 1081 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,879 Speaker 1: made a series about. This is the twenty twenty four 1082 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: Lakers that really weren't a factor in any way, shape 1083 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: or form. 1084 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was my That was and is my takeaways. 1085 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 2: You know, people say, oh, you know he can't turn 1086 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: on a later. A lot of people are because you 1087 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 2: know they're almost certainly going to end up with a 1088 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 2: first year, first time head coach. And yeah, that one 1089 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: to me, like I said, is I think there is 1090 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: probably there will be other opportunities for Dan Hurley if 1091 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 2: he wants them. I'd be naive if I didn't think 1092 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 2: at some point he isn't gonna want to scratch that itch. 1093 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 2: But it was just the organization, the timing. I think, listen, 1094 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 2: waiting until June, if the Lakers really, if he really 1095 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 2: was the priority, do it in May when his players 1096 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 2: are still going through the NBA draft process. You know, 1097 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 2: he had guys coming back to camp, he had guys 1098 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: that turned down the NBA. It's just the timing to me, 1099 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 2: didn't make sense. The job didn't make sense. And I'll 1100 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 2: lastly say this is that I do think there is 1101 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: something to being at that concert. You're back and this 1102 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 2: is what I said, is like you're back on the 1103 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 2: East coast less than twenty four hours later. Like you know, 1104 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 2: we'd have to get Bernie Fratto on to talk about 1105 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 2: all the details. But I remember when Jim Harbaugh and 1106 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 2: the Chargers heated up, it was like a six seven, 1107 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 2: eight day courtship where they back and forth this and that. 1108 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 2: Harbaugh's in la Is agents are hammering out everything, and 1109 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 2: it's like to go out and back in twenty four hours. 1110 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 3: Again. 1111 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: I clearly, obviously I respect the heck out of Dan Hurley. 1112 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 2: By no means am I saying that he's a liar 1113 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: or anything. But I just I know he said that 1114 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 2: he wasn't using that in any way, shape or form 1115 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: for leverage. I will say, by the way, in the 1116 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 2: same court where he said, anyone who thinks I use 1117 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 2: this for leverage as an idiot. He then followed that 1118 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 2: up immediately by saying, my contract's done, but we got 1119 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 2: to get some stuff done for my assistance. 1120 00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: Nil. 1121 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 2: Except so in some ways he was using it for leverage. 1122 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 2: But like I said, he's an incredible coach. Miama Mater 1123 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 2: is lucky to have him. I'm not naive enough to 1124 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be there forever. But it never felt 1125 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 2: like the right fit. And I do wonder was it 1126 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 2: also a cover for the Lakers so they could hire 1127 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: the guy that they want. Tell you what, Jason, we'll 1128 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 2: come back. We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. That's right, 1129 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back Fox Sports Radio. 1130 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: You know where that actually comes from. 1131 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 3: Welcome Back Cotter. 1132 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 1133 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1134 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: You know. Weirdly enough, Mary and the crew did not 1135 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: know this, but a couple of weeks ago, a production 1136 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 1: company sent me the complete Welcome Back Codder series to review. 1137 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,879 Speaker 1: Really yeah, because it just got released for the first 1138 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 1: time in DVD, or it's gonna be wow like the 1139 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: entire series, and I was just kind of like, all right, 1140 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: and now I hear it here, just one of those 1141 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: moments of weird deja vu that means absolutely nothing. Unlike 1142 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: you didn't hear about Arnie trying to send us to 1143 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: break a couple of week weeks ago in the second hour. 1144 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 2: Did you No, I will say really quickly. I did 1145 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 2: once call Arnie the original sweat Hog and he thought 1146 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: that was like the funniest thing in the world. 1147 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 1: That actual. 1148 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 2: So for people who've never seen the show, the sweat 1149 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 2: Hogs was like the crew at whatever high school this was, 1150 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: and welcome back Hodder. But so tell me about Arnie 1151 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: trying to throw. 1152 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: What Let's wait till the Seger comes back on and 1153 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk then, because he was involved, and we have 1154 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: the audio for you to hear. 1155 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 2: What what what is? What is clunkier Arnie throwing a break? 1156 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 2: Or JJ Reddick being an NBA had a nice transition. 1157 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 3: They don't pay me the big bucks as a weekend 1158 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 3: guy for nothing? 1159 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: Baby transition three Reddick can't even hit right down there. 1160 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 3: Nope, take that, JJ, block me on Twitter. How darn you. 1161 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about it. 1162 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 2: So part of the Hurley thing was I do think 1163 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 2: it was the Hurley timing only makes sense, it doesn't 1164 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 2: make sense. And so the Lakers really kind of sort 1165 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 2: of maybe interviewed a guy or two, but nobody takes 1166 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: this long to hire a coach unless your coach is unavailable, 1167 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 2: and so I've always thought it was gonna be Reddick, 1168 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 2: he formally interviewed today. You know, I have my my 1169 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 2: issues with him from the past, but I'm just curious, 1170 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 2: like I don't I mean, I don't know. I don't 1171 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: think it's gonna work, but I think it's not gonna 1172 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 2: work more because I don't think anyone can work with 1173 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,919 Speaker 2: Lebron at this point in his career. To the point 1174 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 2: that we made prior to the break, this isn't twenty eleven. 1175 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 3: Lebron. 1176 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,479 Speaker 2: Having him on your team doesn't guarantee you a trip 1177 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals, and so you still have to 1178 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 2: deal with that. You have to deal with the Broni element. 1179 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 2: And I that's my only real JJ Reddick take is 1180 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a good coach or not, 1181 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 2: but I think having to deal with Lebron at this 1182 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: point in his career is gonna be tough. And I'll 1183 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 2: tell you this, I think it's gonna be a fascinating 1184 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 2: experience to watch here going forward. 1185 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna be interesting. I the whole thing's just 1186 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: been baffling to me, and at the same time it 1187 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. For reasons I 1188 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: talked to you about weeks ago, I had sent you randomly, 1189 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, six eight weeks ago. This is like 1190 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: link to the Athletic because they were doing this piece 1191 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: where they were just fawning all over this podcast that 1192 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: it started with Lebron and JJ Reddick breaking down things 1193 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: like it was deep. They were comparing it to detail 1194 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning or the Lake, Kobe Bryant or all this, 1195 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: and oh, it's amazing listening to them break all these 1196 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: kinds of things down. And I was just like, why 1197 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: are you treating this as if this is the greatest 1198 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened. I don't quite understand, but maybe 1199 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 1: I should check out this podcast. And then when Darvin 1200 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: Ham gets fired, all of a sudden, JJ Reddick's the 1201 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: top of the list and he's being reported by Shams 1202 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: and everything else. Interestingly enough, the weirdest part of this 1203 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: whole thing, including the Day and Hurley stuff, is Reddick 1204 00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: going after Shams Sharania, him going on Mike Golick and 1205 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 1: My Gowick Junior show on their network and saying, you 1206 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: know that thing with Shams, We're gonna have to talk 1207 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: about that. He said, this is the quote, he said, 1208 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: my focus is on the NBA Finals. I'm gonna say 1209 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: that in terms of Shams. That will be addressed once 1210 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: the season is over. I'll just say that. And then 1211 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: they were just like, Okay, well come on our show 1212 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: and break it when you get the job whatever. And 1213 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I didn't mean any job, I mean Shams, 1214 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: like personally after the season. We'll wait on that one, 1215 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: he said. So he like sort of veiledly kind of 1216 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: veiled threat because Shams had put out that he was 1217 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse. Also found it interesting that 1218 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the WOJ bomb came twenty four hours after Shams put 1219 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: up the post that JJ Reddick was the leader. That 1220 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: it was, you know, moving towards a conclusion and we 1221 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: all know and if you've read Ethan Strauss's excellent substack, 1222 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: where he's gone into detail about Woljeneowski in particular, but 1223 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: just kind of the business of especially the NBA reporter. 1224 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Those two guys don't like each other very much and 1225 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: they are constant competing for scoops and all this thing. 1226 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: So there's a lot behind all of this where we 1227 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: could get into a much different discussion, which we won't now, 1228 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: just about being first and trying to one up and 1229 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: trump the other guy and all this kind of stuff. 1230 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: But the Reddick thing is just I don't I guess 1231 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: it could work. I mean, we have seen this kind 1232 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: of thing, but I mean, he hasn't coached anywhere, he 1233 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: hasn't coached anywhere outside what like Little League or something 1234 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: like that. He's gone on TV and he's made friends 1235 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 1: with Lebron James and now he's gonna go be the 1236 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: Lakers head coach. That that's what we're doing. That that 1237 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: seems like that seems like it's destined for him to 1238 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: be a scapegoat. 1239 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 3: No doubt. 1240 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 2: By the way, I will say, first of all, I 1241 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 2: had not seen JJ Redick's Sham's quote again just traveling. 1242 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 3: I think it just fell through the cracks. 1243 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 2: But I immediately put that together as well is that 1244 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Scham's put says JJ Redick has emerged as the favorite 1245 01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 2: or whatever, and immediately, wow, it's not enough to just 1246 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 2: say Dan Hurley's interviewing Dan Hurley has always been the favorite. 1247 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 3: That felt and he also. 1248 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Kind of they if you read the report in the 1249 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 1: original woch bomb, he also kind of undercut Reddick. He 1250 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: kind of talked about, yeah, you know, Reddick's name is 1251 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: out there, but he wasn't even talked to They talked 1252 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: to Barrego and all these other kinds of things like 1253 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: it seemed like if you read it, he was basically 1254 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: trying to discredit chams is his own reporting, which I'm 1255 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: just like, do we really need this well? 1256 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 2: And then the other thing was, you know woj had 1257 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 2: the quote unquote report if you will me, so of 1258 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 2: course you know Hurley was the favorite all along, but 1259 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 2: of course the WOJE report comes out right after Game three, 1260 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 2: in other words, when JJ Reddick will actually be available 1261 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 2: to speak to the Lakers about the job. It just 1262 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 2: feels like to me, and again I'm not trying to 1263 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 2: be the guy that again doesn't have an opinion on things, 1264 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 2: but we're gonna find out down the road. If JJ 1265 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Redick is the right guy or not, but like, why 1266 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 2: are the Lakers moving so slow unless their guy was 1267 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 2: not available. I also thought it was interesting from the 1268 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 2: JJ Redick perspective. He was asked about it before the 1269 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. He goes, I'll address my future after the finals. 1270 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 2: If there's nothing to address, what are we addressing? 1271 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 1: Then you just say I'm not going anywhere. 1272 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have nothing to address. So it's been weird. 1273 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 2: You know, at some point, you know, who knows, maybe 1274 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 2: someone will do the in depth what really went down, 1275 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:33,439 Speaker 2: but it's it feels like it's gonna be Reddick. He's 1276 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 2: such a strange cat. I mean, just no, because I 1277 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 2: had not seen the Shams thing, and it's. 1278 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Like, that's a weird deal right there. 1279 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 3: What exactly. 1280 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm a little confused that I do want to get 1281 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 2: to Disager and we'll talk some other stuff, but I'm 1282 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 2: a little confused as to what he would be mad about, 1283 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 2: Like what that he linked the name to him? I mean, 1284 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 2: you did have even according to Wojes, there was to 1285 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 2: sit down with the Lakers at the NBA Draft combine, 1286 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 2: probably too three weeks ago. So I don't know, it's 1287 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 2: just that seems weird and then obviously you know you 1288 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 2: know this, a lot of people don't, but like my 1289 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 2: personal history where you try to get tough with me 1290 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 2: that one time, and it's like, who are you trying 1291 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 2: to impress? 1292 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:10,919 Speaker 1: Dude? 1293 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, I think that's a real thing 1294 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: that will be interesting to monitor is like JJ Reddick 1295 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 2: seems to be very aware of what everyone is saying 1296 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 2: about him at all times, and you can't do that 1297 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 2: when you're the Lakers coach, and you can't do that 1298 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 2: when you're Lebron's coach. So anyway, Fox Sports Radio erra 1299 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com 1300 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 2: SUO should mention shortly after the show, our podcast will 1301 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 2: be going up. If you missed any of tonight's show, 1302 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 2: be sure to check out our show our podcast. Just 1303 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your shows, and 1304 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 2: be sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, 1305 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 1306 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,439 Speaker 2: and you'll see this show posted right after we get 1307 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 2: off air. Tell you what, Jason, do you want to 1308 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 2: come back and talk a little NFL with Aaron Rodgers, 1309 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,080 Speaker 2: But we do need to get to the Sager. Can 1310 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 2: you talk about the ultimate teas in radio history. I 1311 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 2: need to know what the heck Arnie did a few 1312 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 2: weeks ago when he was tossing tossing a brake. 1313 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 7: So yeah, let's say it may not have gone well, no, 1314 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 7: it may not have by the way you were mentioning, 1315 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 7: welcome back, Cotter. The guy who show that was Gabe 1316 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 7: Kapla was a sports talk radio host in Los Angeles 1317 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 7: on our LA affiliate, the Dodger Station. Now back then 1318 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 7: it was the Lakers station. It was the Lakers station 1319 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 7: four decade but back in the early nineties. Yeah, and 1320 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 7: he was very into the professional poker. 1321 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I will tell you. 1322 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,439 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of like joint memories of 1323 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 2: like my childhood with my parents, but they one of 1324 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 2: them was into that. I think it was my dad, 1325 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 2: and like whenever it was on the series, Yeah, the series, 1326 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 2: And so when it they started to rerun it on 1327 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 2: tv Land, like the three of us, me and my 1328 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 2: mom and my dad sat down and watched it. So 1329 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 2: that's one of the few shows from that era, not 1330 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 2: to date, anybody that's old enough to remember it. But 1331 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of shows like pre nineties 1332 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 2: but I've seen I know all about this what. 1333 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 7: Hawk once it got on TV Land. That was roughly 1334 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 7: the time he was the sports talk radio show, because 1335 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 7: in the nineties it was getting a little more popular 1336 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 7: again it had been on in the seventies. This was 1337 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 7: pre Saturday Night Fever that John Travolta turned out to 1338 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 7: be the star of that show, playing one of the students. Well. 1339 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 7: Stanley Cup Final will continue with Game five at Florida 1340 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 7: on Tuesday night. Panthers were leading this series three games 1341 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 7: to none and then they got rocked eight to one 1342 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 7: Edmonton Tonight's final. In fact, the Oilers, when they score 1343 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 7: at least three goals in the first period undefeated this season. 1344 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 7: This is the eleventh time they've done that, including tonight 1345 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 7: eleven to zero. In those instances, Florida had won six 1346 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 7: straight games since trailing the East Final. This is an 1347 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 7: Oilers team that fired their head coach early in the 1348 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 7: season with a record of three to ten at the time, 1349 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 7: they are at least still alive, but they head on 1350 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 7: the road for Game five Tuesday. The NBA Finals continue Monday, 1351 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 7: and yes, the Lakers interviewed JJ Reddick today for their 1352 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 7: head coach opening WNBA and New York with wins. Bryson 1353 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 7: de'shambo leads the US opened by three Strokes. Bengals wide 1354 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,919 Speaker 7: receiver T Higgins signed his franchise tag one late game 1355 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball. It's on FS one and the 1356 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 7: White Sox are winning. That alone is new seven to 1357 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 7: two at Arizona's the score in the top of the eighth. 1358 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 7: The White Sox on the road this year are six 1359 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 7: and thirty. Kansas City wins in LA seven to two 1360 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 7: over the Dodgers, and Dodgers starting pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto might 1361 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 7: be going onto the injured list. He left after two 1362 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 7: innings tonight with triceps tightness. His velocity was down tonight. 1363 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 7: The winning pitcher for the Royal Seth Lugo, now ten 1364 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 7: and two after his six innings of work. In fact, 1365 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 7: the Royals hit a grand Slam in the sixth after 1366 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 7: the batter fouled off six straight pitches and then hit 1367 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,919 Speaker 7: it out of the park with basses juiced. 1368 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: MJ. 1369 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 7: Melendez, the Hero Colorado, was a sixteen to four winner 1370 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,919 Speaker 7: over Pittsburgh Rockies record up to twenty five and forty five. 1371 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 7: The Yankees entered tonight with fifty wins already this season, 1372 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 7: but they got beat at Boston Right Sucks eight to four. 1373 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 7: The win on Fox TV. Juan Soto did hit his 1374 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 7: eighteenth homer for New York. He has fifty five RBIs already. 1375 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 7: But the Yankee losing starter was Carlos Rodin. He had 1376 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 7: entered with a nine to two record. He allowed the 1377 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 7: first five runs in his five innings of work, and 1378 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,839 Speaker 7: Seattle beat Texas seven to five. Nathan Valdi the loss. 1379 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 7: He lasted three innings seventy five pitches. This was a 1380 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 7: seven to one game for Seattle going into the ninth. 1381 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 7: Winning pitcher George Kirby six innings, no earned runs, six strikeouts, 1382 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 7: and the late game tonight will be at the College 1383 01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 7: World Series because they're just finishing the fourth inning. Texas 1384 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 7: A and M three to nothing in the lead against Florida. 1385 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 7: There was a four hour rain delay at the start 1386 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 7: of this. The opener for each Kentucky won in ten 1387 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 7: innings on a home run five to four over Enzi State. 1388 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Today. 1389 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you. 1390 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Very much, Steve Sager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday 1391 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 2: to Sega. Before you toss the headphones down, can we 1392 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 2: pull up the audio we have it right now, okay, okay, okay. 1393 01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know if to saga to do it or what. 1394 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 2: So Jmar, do you want to set this up? Because 1395 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 2: this is I'm more interested in this than any Aaron 1396 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Rodgers conversation that we may be having here momentarily. 1397 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 7: Is at the end of an hour. 1398 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was at the end of the second hour. 1399 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: It was the segment. Okay, we have Steve dis Seger 1400 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 1: come in, then sure do his extended update, which we 1401 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 1: will do here in the final segment of this hour. 1402 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 1: And Arnie did not understand how clocks work. 1403 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 2: You know, I will say for a guy who's been 1404 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,600 Speaker 2: in the business, like I literally he's older than the 1405 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 2: business itself, Like, he is like spectacularly bad at throwing 1406 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 2: two heart outs. 1407 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 3: It's incredible, It's unbelievable. 1408 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 7: That's not good for a network. 1409 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's not truly not. 1410 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've told him, like Tyrack dot Com 1411 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 2: is reconsidering everything just because of him. But yeah, so 1412 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. So I don't know if there's anything 1413 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 2: else to set up, Jmar. But yeah, he is, like 1414 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 2: everyone has their strengths and weaknesses in the business. For 1415 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 2: people who don't know a heart. Out means that at 1416 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 2: the top of every hour, you have to be out 1417 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 2: at a very specific moment. 1418 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 7: Because all the affiliates are leaving at the same time. 1419 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 2: Yes, every station across country is leaving. Mary will get 1420 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: in our ear and count us down ten to nine. 1421 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,559 Speaker 3: Whatever. Uh And so apparently this was Arnie trying to do. 1422 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 11: That power our next here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh 1423 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 11: I still, I got a hold what I literally said 1424 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 11: two minutes and I hear you say while you're closing 1425 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 11: out the show. 1426 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 1: Really, You're like, boy, really, this. 1427 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 7: Is the problem for somebody who doesn't even know his 1428 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,639 Speaker 7: producer's name and is proud of it, thinks he can 1429 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:42,560 Speaker 7: be the producer. 1430 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 3: He calls me a worthless producers. 1431 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 11: I knew I heard somebody in my ear going, no, 1432 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 11: you got another minute, But I'm like that can't be 1433 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 11: a producer. 1434 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: We don't have one. 1435 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 7: I don't understand, especially seconds left right, Yeah, yeah, keep going. 1436 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. 1437 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 11: I appreciate that I screwed down what up and usually 1438 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 11: flagged screws it up? 1439 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Don't quit your date j on me. 1440 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Thank you one was the thing you won the game 1441 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 1: because your shoes heck not winning the radio game, Chris, 1442 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: come back, all. 1443 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 11: Right, when we come back, I have no idea what 1444 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 11: we're going to talk about. 1445 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Now. 1446 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 11: How about that you have frustrated me here on Fox 1447 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,719 Speaker 11: Sports Radio Aaron Torres. 1448 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,799 Speaker 7: In the minute extra that he provided to finish the segment, 1449 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 7: he managed to insult everybody else on the show, pretty much, 1450 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 7: including Chris, who wasn't even there. I'm not blaming them all. 1451 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 2: No, that that is that is his go to is Yeah, No, 1452 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 2: that is incredible. I will say as a first time listener, 1453 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 2: you guys got your shots into that. 1454 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 3: That was he was. 1455 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 2: He was down on the ground and everybody got a 1456 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 2: little little kick to the gut. There are opportunity, Yeah, no, 1457 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 2: I mean it's not really rare. I mean pretty much 1458 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 2: anytime you work with it. 1459 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 7: Seeing you couldn't have his wife do the shoveling for 1460 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 7: him this time. 1461 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: On the one part, you couldn't hear because it was 1462 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 1: just into mind and Arnie's ear is like when he 1463 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 1: first sends it to break, Mary just comes across to both, 1464 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: but she's like, dude, we have a whole. That's when 1465 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: I lost and I was just like I thought I 1466 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:04,799 Speaker 1: understood how time worked. 1467 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,560 Speaker 3: That is incredible. Yeah, I'm not. 1468 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 2: I feel like that has happened actually before with him. 1469 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 2: At some point I. 1470 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: Have to imagine it did well. 1471 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that was, Arnie. We do not 1472 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 2: have a heart out this hour, but why don't we 1473 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 2: come back. We will do our own segment. Disager will 1474 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 2: get you caught up on everything that we missed throughout 1475 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 2: the day. 1476 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 3: Today. 1477 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 2: I will attempt. I don't want to put too much 1478 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 2: pressure on myself. I will attempt to not throw to 1479 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 2: the break at the top of the wrong hour or 1480 01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 2: the wrong time. But we'll come back to Saga will 1481 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 2: do his extended update. It'll be better than when Arnie 1482 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 2: was here. I promise. 1483 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:41,719 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Trading. 1484 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Aaron's Martin broadcasting live 1485 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,599 Speaker 2: from the Tire Studios, twelve forty five Eastern Time. Happy 1486 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Fathers Day on the East Coast to all the fathers 1487 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 2: out there. As we do every Sunday morning Saturday night, 1488 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 2: depending on where you are around this time, we do 1489 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk. Extended update Tosaga. The 1490 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 2: floor is yours, guys. 1491 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 7: The NBA Finals not yet over it, just like the 1492 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 7: Stanley Cup Final not yet over. NBA Finals continue Monday, 1493 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 7: with Boston up three games to one and hosting Dallas. 1494 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,799 Speaker 7: If there's a game six, it would be Thursday at Dallas. 1495 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 7: But no NBA team has ever blown a three games 1496 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 7: to none lead to lose a series any round. This 1497 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,679 Speaker 7: Boston team had won ten playoff games in a row 1498 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 7: until last game, when it lost by thirty eight. But 1499 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 7: still no NBA team has ever gone through its final 1500 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 7: two rounds without a loss. Remember the shack Lakers two 1501 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 7: thousand and one were undefeated on the road, and even 1502 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 7: they wound up losing a double overtime game to open 1503 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 7: the finals. But usually when you take a two games 1504 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 7: to none lead in the finals, the title is yours. 1505 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,839 Speaker 7: Thirty one. One of the thirty six teams in history 1506 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 7: that have done that wound up winning the NBA Championship. 1507 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,759 Speaker 7: Among those to lose, though, included the Phoenix Suns three 1508 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 7: short years ago who were up two zero and didn't 1509 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 7: didn't win another game, and Golden State famously blew a 1510 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,759 Speaker 7: lead in the finals to the Cavs in twenty sixteen. 1511 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 7: One thing I was mentioning to the show before You 1512 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 7: about the three point shooting, and we mentioned on this 1513 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 7: show before the Finals started. How Boston and the regular 1514 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 7: season took nearly half of its shots from three point 1515 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 7: range forty seven percent of them, and in the playoffs 1516 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 7: it was a larger percent of their shots coming from 1517 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 7: three point range. Compare that to Magic Johnson's rookie season, 1518 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 7: which was the first year the three point shot existed 1519 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 7: in the NBA. I'd mentioned that when Magic's Lakers beat 1520 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 7: Doctor J and Philadelphia, it was a six game series. 1521 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 7: The Lakers as a team were zero for four from 1522 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 7: three point wow for this series. Michael Jordan's rookie year, 1523 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 7: and he had a little bit of the acc three 1524 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 7: pointer in college, but not much his rookie year with 1525 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 7: the Bulls nine for fifty two from three point range. 1526 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 7: Nine three pointers made Jordan's entire rookie year. It just 1527 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,719 Speaker 7: wasn't a huge thing in the early days. I remember. 1528 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 7: Once you got to the nineteen eighty seven finals and 1529 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,480 Speaker 7: the Lakers won, Michael Cooper, who was their three point specialist, 1530 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 7: actually made six threes in a game, and that was 1531 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 7: the Finals record for quite a while, making six three 1532 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 7: pointers in a game. 1533 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 1: Man, when you get to these games where they're taking 1534 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 1: forty and fifty a game last game and making nine 1535 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 1: of them. That is the worst basketball you will ever 1536 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,000 Speaker 1: see when it's just bricks. That could build the taj 1537 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: Mahal all night long. 1538 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:47,799 Speaker 7: So Rick Patino could coach these Celtics. Because the Celtics 1539 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 7: last game attempted eighty shots total, forty one of them 1540 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 7: forty one of the eighty were three point attempts. They 1541 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 7: were fourteen of forty one. So they're just going to 1542 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 7: keep doing this. But this is what you have they 1543 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 7: We mentioned this before the Final started. They in this 1544 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 7: postseason have been outscoring their opponents from three point range 1545 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 7: by ten points per game. That alone is a difference, 1546 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,680 Speaker 7: aside from the free throws that they've been getting in 1547 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 7: the postseason. So Boston's up three games to one. Yeah, 1548 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 7: the winning streak is over, but they are back home 1549 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,920 Speaker 7: on Monday, hosting Dallas in the WNBA. There were just 1550 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,799 Speaker 7: two games today Connecticut twelve, and one was a winner 1551 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 7: at Dallas, eighty five sixty seven. Eriki Agunbawalle, former college 1552 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 7: hero at the Final Four with Notre Dame, was two 1553 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 7: of fifteen shooting from the floor. Did you see her 1554 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 7: comment on a podcast this week? She said she took 1555 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 7: her name As saw this right before he went on 1556 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 7: of consideration for US Women's Olympic basketball. 1557 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 3: Rush said it was really political. 1558 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 7: Yes, so there you go. New York's won eight in 1559 01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 7: a row, one at Las Vegas ninety to eighty two, 1560 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 7: New York Liberty twelve and two. Sabrini Yanescu fifteen points, 1561 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,719 Speaker 7: twelve assists, one turnover. Indiana's back on the court tomorrow 1562 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 7: with a four and ten record, hosting Chicago. 1563 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Real quick to Sega and Jmar time into Asia Wilson. So, Jamar, 1564 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw us Asia Wilson crying 1565 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,680 Speaker 2: at the podium, what do we think on. 1566 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 7: That prosing in the finals rematch today? 1567 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've lost six in a row and she 1568 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 2: was very clearly emotional. At first, I kind of wanted 1569 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 2: to be critical, but I was like Tim Tebow did 1570 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 2: that ten years ago after a random regular season loss. Yeah, 1571 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 2: just don't miss Yeah, And everybody loved it, and I 1572 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,680 Speaker 2: know that I loved it at the time, so I 1573 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,680 Speaker 2: can't really, I don't know. It was definitely caught me 1574 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 2: off guard. Regular season game, six losses in a row, Disagrea. 1575 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 2: I didn't mean to cut off your whole update, but 1576 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,719 Speaker 2: it's just you're mentioning the WNBA. I just I found 1577 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 2: it interesting, And I don't know if I should like 1578 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 2: if there's a take to have on it, or if 1579 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 2: it's just you know, hey, that's that she really is that. 1580 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: I'm glad she cares. That's what I would say about it. Like, 1581 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know about it until you just said it, 1582 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 1: but I just looked it up. It's hard to say 1583 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 1: anything other than I'm glad she cares who wins and loses. Yeah, 1584 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad that it bothers her, that she wants to 1585 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,600 Speaker 1: win for her teammates, that she loves them, all that 1586 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I don't think there's anything negative there 1587 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 1: at all. 1588 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 7: And she's taking the responsibility as a great player on 1589 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 7: what has been a great team. I think they've lost 1590 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,679 Speaker 7: as many now already as they did last year. 1591 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 2: And by the way, the three of us were on 1592 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 2: air when Caleb Williams was crying, and I didn't have 1593 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,640 Speaker 2: a problem with that either, So I guess I just 1594 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 2: it caught me off guard. But I've never had a 1595 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,639 Speaker 2: problem with any any I want to be fair here. 1596 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1597 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 2: I didn't really think anything of it, but since we 1598 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:26,599 Speaker 2: were talking WNBA. 1599 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. 1600 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 7: Can I just add, while we're talking human emotion, sure, 1601 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 7: we're about to get a lot of it, because the 1602 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 7: NBA season and the NHL season are going to be 1603 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 7: ending in the next few days quite likely. I just 1604 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,439 Speaker 7: love when people showed genuine emotion, Like when Shaquille O'Neal 1605 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 7: won his first title and he'd been all everything for 1606 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 7: a while and hadn't sniffed an NBA championship realistically and 1607 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 7: just broke down on the court. That was great, being real. 1608 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 7: I just love that. Yeah, I hope we see a 1609 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,719 Speaker 7: little more of that from whichever sport as things go along. 1610 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 7: It's I know some people, because it's happening publicly and 1611 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 7: on TV, I've heard some sports fans like talk against that. 1612 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 7: I don't have a problem in that situation. It's quite 1613 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 7: appropriately and very human. 1614 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: I agree to be that. 1615 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's like the old Jim Volvano quote, 1616 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 7: you should be moved to last year, you should be 1617 01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 7: moved to tears. These are normal things in life. This 1618 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,640 Speaker 7: is what you should experience. 1619 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 3: Anyway. 1620 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 7: The NHL season could be ending at Florida on Tuesday night. 1621 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 7: Connor McDavid has come to life. He has thirty two 1622 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 7: assists in this postseason for the Edmonton Oilers. That breaks 1623 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 7: a Wayne Gretzky record from nineteen eighty eight. 1624 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: Can't do that with the Oilers. 1625 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 7: That's a bad pool. That's just terrible karma. NHL mark. 1626 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 7: By the way, Gretzky for most points goals plus Thissis 1627 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 7: still has the record forty seven points in a single 1628 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 7: postseason nineteen eighty five. A Canadian team has not won 1629 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 7: the Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety three. Canadian teams are 1630 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,439 Speaker 7: zero to six in the final since Montreal beat the 1631 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 7: La Kings and Gretzky in nineteen ninety three. And got 1632 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 7: to repeat the stat that we mentioned before this matchup, 1633 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 7: the distance from Edmonton, Alberta to Sunrise, Florida is about 1634 01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 7: twenty five hundred miles four thousand kilometers, longest distance between 1635 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 7: Stanley Cup final opponents in league history. In other words, 1636 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 7: that distance is longer than the distance of all these 1637 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 7: European countries playing in the Euros against each other. Because 1638 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,200 Speaker 7: like Albania had a ton of fans in Germany, which 1639 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,600 Speaker 7: is hosting this event this month, you could once we 1640 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,879 Speaker 7: get USC and UCLA going to big ten conference schedules 1641 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 7: in the various sports, twenty five hundred miles is going 1642 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 7: to be about their their shortest distance. Well, okay, let's 1643 01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 7: say La to Chicago. Plus you're going to be hitting 1644 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,759 Speaker 7: close to twenty five hundred miles for regular league games. 1645 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 7: That's amazing how things go. 1646 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Don't laugh. 1647 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 2: We just saw last week or a few weeks ago 1648 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,599 Speaker 2: that the Friday night Big Ten schedule Rutgers at USC. 1649 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about going because I can't get to games, 1650 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, on Saturdays. I actually thought about that with 1651 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Rutgers traveling the us em. 1652 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,559 Speaker 7: Scurday Friday night UFL football next year because Fox has 1653 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,760 Speaker 7: IndyCar Now on weekends next year. 1654 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 3: That's more Jmart's speed. 1655 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, tell you what come back Game five NBA Finals. 1656 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio. 1657 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,920 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1658 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 5: the nation. 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Bernie Fratto 1668 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 2: of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow us. We know 1669 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 2: Bernie's got all sorts of good stuff to say about 1670 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 2: what was a busy week in the world of sports, 1671 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 2: even as the NBA and NHL are slowly coming to 1672 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,840 Speaker 2: a conclusion. Speaking of which, Jason, it is Sunday on 1673 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 2: the East and Central time zones. By the way, Happy 1674 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Father's Day to all the fathers out there in the 1675 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 2: East and Central time zones. 1676 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 3: It is Sunday, so happy Father's Day. 1677 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,120 Speaker 2: But when it's Sunday, it means that we are one 1678 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,200 Speaker 2: day away from Game five of the NBA Finals. Dallas 1679 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Mavericks win by a cool thirty eight points in Game 1680 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 2: four on Friday. The starters were pulled at the end 1681 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 2: of the third quarter. Not competitive. Big picture, We're going 1682 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,800 Speaker 2: back to Boston. Just big picture. We we'll give our 1683 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 2: final predictions in the final segment. But what do you 1684 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 2: expect to see when these two teams return to the 1685 01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 2: court on Monday night in Boston. 1686 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Well, I hope. I think you're going to see a 1687 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 1: ferocious Dallas team against a Celtics team that might have 1688 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 1: been reawoken. So I think you're gonna see a higher 1689 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 1: level of basketball from a balance standpoint from both teams. 1690 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 1: I think you've seen higher basketball from the Maps. You 1691 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,519 Speaker 1: saw it in Game four, and you've seen higher basketball 1692 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: or higher level play from the Celtics in this series, 1693 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: then you probably will then five. But I think that 1694 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: both teams will show upright to play, and I think 1695 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 1: it's going to be a competitive game. And I hope 1696 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm not just speaking with my heart there, because I 1697 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,600 Speaker 1: want to see it be a real dog fight and 1698 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 1: one where we can really get into it and be 1699 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,519 Speaker 1: entertained as long as we put it on mute. But 1700 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 1: I do think that you're gonna have you have the 1701 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: makings of a really really competitive, hard fought, emotional basketball 1702 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,639 Speaker 1: game that could come down to the final play. Because again, 1703 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: if the Maps can get it back to their building 1704 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: at three to two, all of a sudd and the 1705 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 1: pressure switches, it seems impossible that they could beat Boston 1706 01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 1: for in a row. But for a second there, it 1707 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,360 Speaker 1: looked like Boston was going to be Dallas for in 1708 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a row, and that seemed unthinkable considering the run that 1709 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Dallas had been on, that they weren't going to be 1710 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: able to steal a game. Well they have now. Now 1711 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: they've got to prove they can do it on the 1712 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 1: road to get it back home. We'll see whether or 1713 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: not they can do it. I just want to see 1714 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: it be close, and I think it probably will be. Yeah. 1715 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 3: The word you use, and I think it's a good 1716 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 3: word to. 1717 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:30,720 Speaker 2: Potentially describe what I expect in Boston on Monday night 1718 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,599 Speaker 2: is reawakened or awoke in or whatever. And that's kind 1719 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 2: of what I think too, is that, you know, you 1720 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 2: go back to even Game three the other night, I 1721 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,840 Speaker 2: guess it was Wednesday night, and it was kind of 1722 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 2: a close, competitive game, and then Boston just kind of 1723 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 2: blew it open in the third quarter, and even when 1724 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,960 Speaker 2: Dallas made a little bit of Dallas actually made a 1725 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 2: run late to frankly get back in and make it competitive. 1726 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 2: I think at one point Boston was up by like 1727 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 2: twenty one points or something like that. But I think, 1728 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,479 Speaker 2: you know, as weird as it's, it was maybe coming 1729 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 2: a little too easy for Boston. Where you know they 1730 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,720 Speaker 2: could just flip a switch and next thing you know 1731 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 2: that again they were up in Game three I'm talking 1732 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 2: about now, they were down one in halftime, and they 1733 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,600 Speaker 2: were up by fifteen going into the fourth quarter, and so, 1734 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 2: you know, I think there was probably an element of like, 1735 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 2: we can do this. You know, we can do this 1736 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 2: whenever we want. And I think it was a wake 1737 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 2: up call. And I know we talked about it earlier 1738 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 2: in the show, and for people who missed any of 1739 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 2: the show, make sure to go back and download the 1740 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 2: podcast once we're done here. But you know, I think 1741 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 2: that this isn't like because it's not single elimination, it's 1742 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 2: not the NCAA tournament, it's not the NFL playoffs. Teams 1743 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 2: just have bad nights, and you know, you never want 1744 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:48,680 Speaker 2: a team to just kind of, you know, pack it 1745 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 2: in early. But that just felt like a game where 1746 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 2: it's just like, look, Bury the game tape doesn't mean anything. 1747 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,759 Speaker 2: To Boston's credit, they you know, they haven't lost often 1748 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 2: in these playoffs, but when they have, you know, they've 1749 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 2: bounced back very quickly. I mean, obviously, you lose Game 1750 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 2: two to the Heat at home in the first round, 1751 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 2: you win the next three games, no problem. You lose 1752 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,080 Speaker 2: Game two at home to Cleveland in the second round, 1753 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 2: you lose the next three games, no problem. And I 1754 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,680 Speaker 2: know Cleveland had some injury problems Miami as well, but 1755 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 2: I I just it's hard for me to get two 1756 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 2: worked up about one bad performance over the course of 1757 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,719 Speaker 2: a five, six, seven game series. 1758 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 3: Whatever. I think we get the best version of Boston 1759 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,439 Speaker 3: on Monday night. I know we didn't. 1760 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 2: We said we're not going to, you know, make our 1761 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 2: predictions the second but I think we get our I 1762 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,639 Speaker 2: think we got the worst version of Boston on Friday night. 1763 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 2: I think we get a much better one on Monday. 1764 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,759 Speaker 2: And the team that has kind of just handled whatever 1765 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 2: minimal adversity that they've had throughout these playoffs, I think 1766 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,560 Speaker 2: I think we get the best version of them on 1767 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 2: Monday Night. 1768 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's right, and I hope 1769 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 1: we do, because for all to talk of how great 1770 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 1: the finals we're going to be, it really hasn't been. 1771 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I know, the games haven't been on that close. You 1772 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:02,720 Speaker 1: did have that. You mentioned it. The one W was 1773 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,320 Speaker 1: up twenty one and the MAVs fought really hard and 1774 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 1: then still found a way not to quite pull it off, 1775 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,599 Speaker 1: and that felt like Curtains right there. But you got 1776 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 1: at least a glimpse on Friday of what it looks 1777 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: like when Luca really steps into that role that everybody 1778 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,720 Speaker 1: wanted him to play right before the finals, when they 1779 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,400 Speaker 1: were calling him the best player in the world all 1780 01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, when it was not Anthony Edwards anymore. 1781 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: And so now he's got to go take that on 1782 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,800 Speaker 1: the road and he's gonna get booed vociferously, and they're 1783 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 1: going to try to get under his skin and he's 1784 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 1: going to have to rise above that or the same 1785 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 1: storylines that came out about him after Game three, you're 1786 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: going to come out after Game five, which is there's 1787 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,200 Speaker 1: maturity left, there's a lot left. Now he has toist 1788 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: credit actually come out and said, I'm a really incomplete 1789 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: basketball player right now. I'm still learning because he's still 1790 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: relatively young, despite how you know how much basketball he 1791 01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: played overseas and all those things. So he's not out 1792 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,559 Speaker 1: there believing he's a finished product. But I think a 1793 01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 1: lot of the finish work that needs to be done 1794 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 1: goes between the years, not with the basketball in the sayands. 1795 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 2: Dumb question, and I think I'm got to ask you 1796 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,680 Speaker 2: this earlier, but if the Celtics do close it out, 1797 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there's been so much discourse about what's the 1798 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,719 Speaker 2: right way to say it. Not like everything that's wrong 1799 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 2: with them necessarily, but it feels like most people have 1800 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 2: been waiting for the other shoe to drop with the 1801 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 2: Boston Celtics basically the entire playoffs. 1802 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:26,600 Speaker 3: I saw this tweet. 1803 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 2: This was weeks ago before the NBA Finals, and it 1804 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,320 Speaker 2: really stuck out to me. It was from one of 1805 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 2: the guys that works at barstool. The Twitter handle is 1806 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 2: stool Greeny. It's from May twenty second, so I think 1807 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 2: it was right after the Celtics had clinched their spot 1808 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,720 Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals. It said ninety five percent of 1809 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 2: the Celtics discourse all season and especially in the playoffs 1810 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 2: boils down to this formula quote. Sure, the Celtics won, 1811 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 2: but what if they didn't? You have to take that 1812 01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 2: into consideration. And it's like that to me, is how 1813 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,680 Speaker 2: we were all talking about the Celtics. And and I 1814 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 2: still I'll be honest, like, even if they are to 1815 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,719 Speaker 2: close out this series, and I know it's a little 1816 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,840 Speaker 2: presumptuous to have this conversation now, but I don't think 1817 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,799 Speaker 2: it is Jason. I mean, if they went on Monday, 1818 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 2: we're not back on air till Saturday, So like, I 1819 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 2: think it's fair to have this conversation. Is like I 1820 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,680 Speaker 2: still don't know what to make of the Celtics. If 1821 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 2: they win, they're clearly the best team, a deserving champ, 1822 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. 1823 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 3: But it's like, I. 1824 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 2: Don't know that they're just such a unique team and 1825 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,720 Speaker 2: like this corps has been together for so long. I 1826 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 2: think it says it's probably a good thing for the 1827 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 2: NBA from the perspective that, like you know, they did 1828 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 2: the Celtics didn't blow it up and it didn't immediately 1829 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 2: become we have to trade this piece or that piece 1830 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,320 Speaker 2: or this piece or that piece. And I know those 1831 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 2: conversations have been had in previous years. You gotta get 1832 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,799 Speaker 2: rid of Jalen Brown. They can't coexist with Jason Tatum. 1833 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 2: But I just don't even know, like really how to 1834 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 2: contextualize this because it's it's a unique story. It was 1835 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,840 Speaker 2: a a dominant run, But I don't know, it's just 1836 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,800 Speaker 2: they're just a very interesting team because they don't fit 1837 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 2: into like a clear box of you know, dominant in 1838 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 2: the traditional sense, right, they went through a weak Eastern Conference. 1839 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,920 Speaker 2: They don't feel like a team that's like a surefire, 1840 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, this is the beginning of a dynasty. It's 1841 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 2: just an interesting team to think about, because again, I 1842 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 2: don't think they fit those easy boxes that we think 1843 01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:27,559 Speaker 2: of when we think of NBA champ. 1844 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not an obvious that They're not a flashy team. 1845 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,719 Speaker 1: They have a little bit of spurs in them, maybe 1846 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of like turn of the century Pistons. 1847 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,840 Speaker 1: They're more of a blue collarish kind of team. The 1848 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown conversation in the off season last year, I 1849 01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,320 Speaker 1: led that charge. I was wrong, and I've come out 1850 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 1: and said that now. I said, I don't know why 1851 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 1: you bring them back. Now. I do, like I do 1852 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,840 Speaker 1: completely understand that there's kind of it's not sharp, it's dull. 1853 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,559 Speaker 1: It's just one of the reasons why some of these 1854 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 1: stories have come out about them is because because there's 1855 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 1: not anything natural or organic that's interesting. Yep. I think 1856 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 1: that's one thing. And I mean even the coach like 1857 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Joe Mizzoula, who I'd love, especially after listening to him 1858 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: stand up for his faith in a postgame press conference 1859 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,120 Speaker 1: to shut down another question that was designed to get 1860 01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 1: a racial answer back from him, and instead he took 1861 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 1: it to a Christian place. It's just not that exciting 1862 01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 1: a basketball We talked about it, like you even asked 1863 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,639 Speaker 1: a question like six eight weeks ago. Are they kind 1864 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 1: of boring? Is that? Yes they are. They are kind 1865 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,600 Speaker 1: of boring. That's why I'm like, I don't think that 1866 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 1: a whole lot of people are running to the set 1867 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 1: to watch this Celtics team play. I think better for 1868 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,040 Speaker 1: the NBA right now would be for a Luco or 1869 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,120 Speaker 1: one of those kind of teams to win a championship, 1870 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,160 Speaker 1: because there's some pizzazz there. But there's something to be 1871 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,840 Speaker 1: said for what the Celtics have done, how they've built it, 1872 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,880 Speaker 1: and the way that their role pieces actually show up everywhere. 1873 01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the critical points that 1874 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,400 Speaker 1: gets lost. Says, yes you have a Tatum and yes 1875 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 1: you have a Brown, but man, Derek White can really 1876 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,439 Speaker 1: play and he fills his role incredibly well. And Drew 1877 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Holliday wins everywhere he goes, so he goes there and 1878 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,200 Speaker 1: he's the right fit for them. Like they've done a 1879 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 1: lot of the right things, and they've done it with 1880 01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 1: multiple coaches. Now you don't have a Doka. Now you've 1881 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 1: got Missoula. And then the questions that, well, is Missoula 1882 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,439 Speaker 1: actually a good coach? He seems to get out coached 1883 01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,559 Speaker 1: a lot. Did they take a lot of criticism, because 1884 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 1: there's not. They don't. They lacked the Hollywood factor. With 1885 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,719 Speaker 1: all due respect to Jason Tatum and Hiss Corona ads, 1886 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 1: they just don't. There's not much there there no if 1887 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,679 Speaker 1: that makes any sense now, one hundred percent, and it does. 1888 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,559 Speaker 1: And I think I use this example before. It reminds 1889 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit of Yukon during the college basketball season. 1890 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 1: And I know college basketball isn't a mainstream talking point, 1891 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,800 Speaker 1: but it was like, they win the championship two years ago, 1892 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 1: this is Eucondum talking about obviously, and then they come 1893 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: back and like immediately, if you like college basketball and 1894 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: you're watching it on any sort of regular basis, you're like, oh, 1895 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,719 Speaker 1: they're really good again this year. 1896 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 3: And so first it was like can they go back 1897 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:07,800 Speaker 3: to back? 1898 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,559 Speaker 2: And then pretty clearly, pretty quickly, it was like, oh, yeah, no, 1899 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 2: they can definitely go back to back. And then it 1900 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,439 Speaker 2: became like, are they better than last year, and it 1901 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,680 Speaker 2: was like, that's not a conversation you can really have 1902 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,320 Speaker 2: until they win it. But like they just kept winning. 1903 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,559 Speaker 2: I think they finished thirty seven and three and by 1904 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,640 Speaker 2: like mid February, there's just nothing to talk about it. 1905 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,280 Speaker 2: It's like we've we've hit on every angle. And I'm 1906 01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 2: not comparing the Celtics from like their dominance or their 1907 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:33,920 Speaker 2: this or they're that, but I do think there is 1908 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 2: something to that is like we've had the Jalen Brown 1909 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum conversations for years. There's not really any new 1910 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,840 Speaker 2: ground to cover. And if anything, as I discussed, as 1911 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,240 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, I find the conversation boring because they 1912 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,640 Speaker 2: seem to really like each other and they've seem to 1913 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,160 Speaker 2: figure it out. Like you said, the Joe Mizzoula thing, 1914 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,479 Speaker 2: it was like, well, I mean, you know, do I 1915 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,840 Speaker 2: watch NBA basketball on a night tonight basis no, But 1916 01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 2: it was like last year it was like, well, I mean, 1917 01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,720 Speaker 2: this guy's just in all over his head and he 1918 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 2: only got the job because Doka got fired and he 1919 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, And I remember it being a thing last 1920 01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:08,320 Speaker 2: year of like should they bring Missoula back for another 1921 01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,120 Speaker 2: year or are you just wasting a year of Tatum 1922 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 2: and Brown's prime if you do so well. Now we 1923 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,439 Speaker 2: figured out that that guy's pretty darn good and he 1924 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. And so I do think there 1925 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,440 Speaker 2: is something to that. It's not new like Aunt Edwards, 1926 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's not I don't know. 1927 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 1: I just it's not polarizing either. They're not a polarizing team. 1928 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,560 Speaker 1: They don't have the Luca effect. They don't have the 1929 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:36,440 Speaker 1: there's not that player that creates some kind of conversation 1930 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,080 Speaker 1: and actually splits down the middle where you have something 1931 01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,559 Speaker 1: on one side and something on the other. There's just 1932 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,760 Speaker 1: that the meat on the bone is not there for 1933 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,479 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics, and as a result, like and I 1934 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,599 Speaker 1: also think there's something to the fact, to the effect 1935 01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 1: that we've seen them go deep into playoffs before and 1936 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 1: then not finish, and I think eventually that just became 1937 01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 1: old hat and it's just kind of like they're the 1938 01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills now. It's not that it's not that exciting anymore. 1939 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,400 Speaker 1: Let me know, when you actually win one of these things, 1940 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,080 Speaker 1: which they're probably about to do. So I think that 1941 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,040 Speaker 1: I think that there's probably you know, something to that 1942 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,640 Speaker 1: as well. There's just that tabloid factor whatever, that that 1943 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: sheen is that shine that that's not what this team 1944 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,120 Speaker 1: is about. And maybe that is to their credit because 1945 01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:27,240 Speaker 1: they're just out there playing basketball. But I remember, and 1946 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,280 Speaker 1: this isn't a knock on cow Herd, but I remember 1947 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,559 Speaker 1: him saying, because I remember hearing the SoundBite, it's just like, 1948 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,080 Speaker 1: what we know now, thanks for the Celtics for letting 1949 01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,680 Speaker 1: us know they're not gonna be a dynasty. And he 1950 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,520 Speaker 1: basically said, you know, they struggled last night against the Pacers. 1951 01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:45,639 Speaker 1: The Pacers, they're not gonna be winning multiple championships. In effect, 1952 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,439 Speaker 1: it's just like interesting take, And it just felt like 1953 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,240 Speaker 1: that's the discourse around the Celtics. It's like, here's why 1954 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,320 Speaker 1: they're not very good. Yes, here's why they're gonna lose, 1955 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,080 Speaker 1: or if they even if they win, here's why they're 1956 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,799 Speaker 1: not gonna win. Ever. Again, like it's it's kind of strange. 1957 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,880 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, no, that that tweet, like I said, of 1958 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,320 Speaker 2: the Celtics discourse is uh ninety This is from Dan 1959 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Greenberg from Barstool Sports. Ninety five percent of the Celtics 1960 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,920 Speaker 2: discourse all season, especially in the playoff, boils down to 1961 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,840 Speaker 2: this formula. Sure, the Celtics won, but what if they didn't? 1962 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 2: You really have to take that into consideration. 1963 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 1: So now that doesn't even make sense, like as a statement, 1964 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,720 Speaker 1: like that's contradictory, and it's just like what does that 1965 01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,040 Speaker 1: even mean? And that's the whole point of the tweet. 1966 01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,640 Speaker 1: The tweet is a serting. It's just like, what are 1967 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 1: we even talking about? Like what is this storyline surrounding 1968 01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:36,719 Speaker 1: this team? 1969 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1970 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 2: No, And it's just it is interesting, And like I said, 1971 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm not totally sure even if they do close things 1972 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,599 Speaker 2: out on Monday night, quite how to contextualize what they 1973 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,400 Speaker 2: have done and what it would mean going forward. Fox 1974 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,360 Speaker 2: Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the 1975 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. When we come back, major broadcasting 1976 01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 2: news late last night broadcasting legend potentially on the way out, 1977 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 2: and unfortunately there's a couple more broadcasters that can't get 1978 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:06,680 Speaker 2: out quick enough. 1979 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 3: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports. 1980 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 1: Are you. 1981 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 3: Welcome back? 1982 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:15,320 Speaker 1: Everybody? 1983 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:20,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio erratorius Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the 1984 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:24,519 Speaker 2: Tireack dot Com studios. Take it up to the top 1985 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,800 Speaker 2: of the hour. Bernie Frado of the Bernie Frato Show 1986 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:33,320 Speaker 2: follows us So Jmark. We got some big news in 1987 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,320 Speaker 2: the broadcasting world last night, which we'll get to momentarily 1988 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 2: before we do. Though, do you want to do the 1989 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,600 Speaker 2: big news first or do you want to do what 1990 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 2: the other part of it is? Because as good as 1991 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:51,920 Speaker 2: TNT's broadcast is, can I just say, I'm just gonna say, 1992 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:56,120 Speaker 2: I don't care the NBA Finals broad The whole ESPN 1993 01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:00,879 Speaker 2: broadcast has just been abysmal. And I noticed this, I guess, 1994 01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,920 Speaker 2: like in the Eastern Conference Finals, because I think sometimes like, 1995 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, there's all these series going on, you don't 1996 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,040 Speaker 2: know who's broadcasting what, and dah dah da dah and 1997 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,799 Speaker 2: this and that, and then we get the legend Mike Breen, 1998 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 2: who's awesome, and you're like, oh, he's with Doris Burke 1999 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:21,240 Speaker 2: and JJ Reddick and they have I mean, J Mart, 2000 01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:22,880 Speaker 2: when you were single, I don't know if you ever 2001 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 2: went on any really bad dates where it's just there's 2002 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 2: no chemistry, there's no nothing. You know, she's a pisce'son 2003 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:34,840 Speaker 2: euro whatever. I don't know, right, it is so bad now, 2004 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,880 Speaker 2: I will say this. At first, I just thought they 2005 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,000 Speaker 2: were all bad except for Mike Breen. Obviously, I will 2006 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,519 Speaker 2: give Doris Burke credit at least she's like trying. I 2007 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 2: don't even know if JJ Redick like. I don't know 2008 01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,000 Speaker 2: if he's checked out because he knows he's getting the 2009 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 2: Lakers job, or if he's just uncomfortable being the third 2010 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,320 Speaker 2: guy in the booth or what. But for a guy 2011 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 2: that does host a very entertaining NBA podcast, he's clearly 2012 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,040 Speaker 2: in our ticket guy that knows how to talk the game. 2013 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:07,040 Speaker 2: It's just bad. It's tough to listen to. I just 2014 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:08,559 Speaker 2: feel bad for Mike Breen, I really do. 2015 01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: I've said basically the same thing for weeks, and I 2016 01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,160 Speaker 1: mean I said it, both said it with Arnie repeatedly, 2017 01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,160 Speaker 1: and we've said it before. Also, it's not a good booth. 2018 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,080 Speaker 1: I yeah, you're right, I mean Doris does try. I 2019 01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 1: just don't think this is the role for her. I'm 2020 01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,840 Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of her, like, at least to 2021 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 1: the degree that all the articles that seem to be 2022 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,760 Speaker 1: written about her over and over and again seem to 2023 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:38,040 Speaker 1: be Reddick. You can go five or six minutes and 2024 01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't speak, like, he doesn't say anything. 2025 01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,960 Speaker 3: I know, it's unbelievable, isn't it, and then. 2026 01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 1: And then when he does so, he didn't talk for 2027 01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 1: like four minutes in Game four, and then he comes 2028 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,080 Speaker 1: on and I'm just like, all right, cool, here's j J. 2029 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,680 Speaker 1: Gam What's he got to say? He says, let's not 2030 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 1: forget that they're not here without Luka Doncic, And I'm 2031 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:02,200 Speaker 1: just like, who I forgot that? Like, who was it 2032 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,080 Speaker 1: that was out there that needed to be reminded that 2033 01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,400 Speaker 1: the Mavericks are not in the NBA Finals if not 2034 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:13,519 Speaker 1: for Luka Doncic. It's just that was that was bottom 2035 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,240 Speaker 1: of the c level analysis, Like there was nothing there 2036 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:21,920 Speaker 1: that anyone watching. I mean, even like a casual fan 2037 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 1: is still going to understand that without having to be 2038 01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,640 Speaker 1: told it. I don't know. And you're right, I mean, 2039 01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,760 Speaker 1: on the podcast, you for a good stuff. I've seen 2040 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,160 Speaker 1: him on TV as an analyst and I've seen him, 2041 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,559 Speaker 1: you know, do the debate stuff and all this. But 2042 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,760 Speaker 1: I think he's more that guy. I don't think that 2043 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,200 Speaker 1: he's a booth guy. I don't think that he enjoys it. 2044 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it. At least. He seems disengaged, 2045 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,240 Speaker 1: and there is negative chemistry with that crew, and there's 2046 01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,320 Speaker 1: negative chemistry between him and Doris, like they just there's 2047 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,720 Speaker 1: not a connection. It does take time to develop that 2048 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But all I've been thinking this entire 2049 01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:01,479 Speaker 1: time is you're telling me that you didn't want to 2050 01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,519 Speaker 1: pay Jeff van Gundy, I know, so that you could 2051 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:10,639 Speaker 1: move on to do this because this ain't it? Chief 2052 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,040 Speaker 1: Like this is as bad as it gets. And Mike 2053 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,240 Speaker 1: Breen is the gold standard. And you can even see 2054 01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,719 Speaker 1: it sometimes in Mike Breen when they have a shot 2055 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:22,160 Speaker 1: of all of them. Mike Breen knows this is not good. 2056 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,679 Speaker 1: He knows it isn't he is doing. There are times 2057 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,799 Speaker 1: when it looks like he's calling the games by himself. 2058 01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,519 Speaker 1: Feel this is this is a reference some people out 2059 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:34,400 Speaker 1: there will get. Mike Breen has become Joey Styles and 2060 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 1: ECW in like nineteen ninety six when he was calling 2061 01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:41,160 Speaker 1: all these ridiculous matches at the highest level imaginable with 2062 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,880 Speaker 1: all his emotion and all his catchphrases and cliches, and 2063 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,400 Speaker 1: he had no color guy. It was just him. It 2064 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,240 Speaker 1: seems like it's just it's Breen up there. And then 2065 01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,320 Speaker 1: the one thing I will say about Doris Burke that 2066 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:56,120 Speaker 1: is a bit frustrating is she tries to like talk clever, 2067 01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,520 Speaker 1: like she tries to use like certain words and phrases 2068 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,800 Speaker 1: that are kind of in the mainstream, or uses like 2069 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,680 Speaker 1: different it's not really slang, but she tries to be 2070 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,280 Speaker 1: on the hip is not the word to use here, 2071 01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:14,640 Speaker 1: but it doesn't work like when she actually is just 2072 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,639 Speaker 1: dropping analysis is fine. I don't find her entertaining when 2073 01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:19,840 Speaker 1: she's doing it, but I understand she does her homework 2074 01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 1: and she works hard. I just think of this and 2075 01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:24,800 Speaker 1: just like, can you just give me Mike Breen and 2076 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 1: hub Brown I love Hubie or Mike Mike. Give me 2077 01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,439 Speaker 1: Mike Breen and Doug Collins or I mean any number 2078 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,040 Speaker 1: of people that you could put in that role would 2079 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 1: be better than what they've got. As long as it's 2080 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,880 Speaker 1: not Kendrick Perkins, it can't get worse. 2081 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:41,360 Speaker 3: It's so funny. 2082 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, so I agree, and you know, 2083 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:48,040 Speaker 2: like I'm glad finally because like Doris Burke on the 2084 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,960 Speaker 2: way up, like you know, I get it, she's calling 2085 01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,519 Speaker 2: NBA game first woman to do this and whatever. I 2086 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:57,000 Speaker 2: don't ever want to, you know, diminish when you know 2087 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,599 Speaker 2: barriers are broken, and I know that there's little girls 2088 01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 2: that are looking up to her, seeing but at some 2089 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:02,720 Speaker 2: point we just have. 2090 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 3: To acknowledge that she's not very good. 2091 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:09,160 Speaker 2: And it's like, I just it's it's it's nice that 2092 01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,160 Speaker 2: we have gotten to this point. It's society, reddick. I 2093 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:12,519 Speaker 2: don't even know what's going on. By the way, I 2094 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,880 Speaker 2: just just for fun, I went to search Doris Burke 2095 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 2: on on Twitter just to see what the reaction was. 2096 01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,320 Speaker 2: Some guy tweeted, is its Brickworld is his Twitter handle, 2097 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,240 Speaker 2: but he says, one more game until we don't have 2098 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 2: to hear Doris Burke. And it's the video of Pat 2099 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:33,080 Speaker 2: Beverly jumping on the table after that playing game when 2100 01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,679 Speaker 2: he throws the jersey into the crowd, and I hate 2101 01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,640 Speaker 2: to say it, but it's the truth, and I'm with you. 2102 01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,240 Speaker 2: Is that it's just listen, you know, this is the 2103 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:45,600 Speaker 2: biggest broadcasting assignment you can have in the NBA, and 2104 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,840 Speaker 2: it's just there are two people that frankly, just are 2105 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,479 Speaker 2: not ready for that level. And maybe someday they will be, 2106 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, but they're not there and it's glaring. 2107 01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:57,880 Speaker 2: And it's especially glaring, by the way, when you compare 2108 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 2: it to what the other current broadcast partner TNT has 2109 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,640 Speaker 2: uh when you discuss their basketball people at least for 2110 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,000 Speaker 2: one more year. And that's because Charles Barkley last night 2111 01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,680 Speaker 2: made a very interesting announcement. We're gonna discuss all that 2112 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,880 Speaker 2: next before we do though final time this scene, let's 2113 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,400 Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk to SEGA. 2114 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:18,120 Speaker 3: What is trending? 2115 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:18,439 Speaker 1: My friend? 2116 01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,160 Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought this up and all of that 2117 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:24,360 Speaker 7: that these good points that you just made are all 2118 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,479 Speaker 7: trumped by the awful pre and halftime show. 2119 01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,400 Speaker 1: There you go, we went off on that thing last week. 2120 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 3: Well, and what let's. 2121 01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:33,559 Speaker 7: Start with the fact that there's not much of it 2122 01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,720 Speaker 7: at halftime like ninety second years now, it's it's literally 2123 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,040 Speaker 7: like sixteen minute halftime and twelve minutes of commercials. 2124 01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:42,200 Speaker 1: But go ahead, No. 2125 01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,640 Speaker 2: What I was gonna say was, because I've seen a 2126 01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,479 Speaker 2: lot of the whole like just bring the inside the 2127 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,720 Speaker 2: NBA crew to ESPN and like really quick, because we're 2128 01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 2: going to talk about that on the backside to SEGA. 2129 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 2: So like, by the way, you're welcome to chime in, 2130 01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,479 Speaker 2: but like part of it is the production as well, 2131 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,320 Speaker 2: And it's like if you don't, it doesn't matter if 2132 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,680 Speaker 2: you have Chuck Kenny and Shack if you don't let 2133 01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:03,960 Speaker 2: them be Chuck and Kenny and Shack. And to be clear, 2134 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm not saying ESPN has that quality of talents. 2135 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:07,640 Speaker 1: They do not. 2136 01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,920 Speaker 2: But it's also like you gotta let it to use 2137 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,040 Speaker 2: the term the kids use that Doris Burke probably try 2138 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,040 Speaker 2: to drop in the next round. You gotta let the 2139 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 2: kids cook. And they you know, TNT to their credit 2140 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,320 Speaker 2: the postgame. You know it's not this like and I 2141 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,000 Speaker 2: know it's for TV purposes, ratings purposes, but throw back 2142 01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:26,120 Speaker 2: to Van Pelt and then he does ninety seconds and 2143 01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,200 Speaker 2: they throw back to desk and it's like they just 2144 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 2: throw to the guys. They pay a lot of money 2145 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,880 Speaker 2: to talk basketball, and they let them talk basketball. 2146 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,679 Speaker 1: Just but even when it's just the them at halftime though, guys, 2147 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,559 Speaker 1: it's like lightning round. It's like, what can you give 2148 01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 1: me in five seconds because we have to get to 2149 01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:43,679 Speaker 1: this next Marvel trailer like every five seconds. For some reason, 2150 01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,479 Speaker 1: TNT actually can still have a conversation during halftime where 2151 01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,559 Speaker 1: it feels like they're actually talking and they're not constantly 2152 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,519 Speaker 1: somebody in their years you got eight seven six five, 2153 01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,200 Speaker 1: like get it out, like there is nothing organic or 2154 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,360 Speaker 1: natural feeling about it. 2155 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,080 Speaker 7: So you're saying there's no time, so by all means, 2156 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:00,840 Speaker 7: bring more people to the desk. 2157 01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:02,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, give people at the desk. 2158 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,599 Speaker 7: That's right, because we've all been clamoring to have Josh 2159 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 7: Hart as a postseason analyst, can we please? I mean, 2160 01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:13,719 Speaker 7: and honestly, this is NBC also who just golf fans 2161 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,760 Speaker 7: are saying, you know, hold my beer if you want 2162 01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,200 Speaker 7: to complain about NBC carrying a big time sporting event, 2163 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:24,519 Speaker 7: because at one point NBC just broke from the golf 2164 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,240 Speaker 7: coverage and went straight to commercial because something in the 2165 01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,760 Speaker 7: truck just went out and they lost their graphics and 2166 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,920 Speaker 7: when they returned they didn't have the audio on the 2167 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 7: proper holes and people were going nuts online. And how 2168 01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,240 Speaker 7: bad Yet again, NBC, which doesn't do a lot of golf, 2169 01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,760 Speaker 7: how bad they're doing on the US Open coverage. But 2170 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:46,080 Speaker 7: you used to Yeah, I used to have it for years. Yeah, 2171 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,000 Speaker 7: ESPN's NBA pregame and a halftime show as a whole. 2172 01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 7: I mean, as good as say, Malika Andrews can be 2173 01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,320 Speaker 7: on TV. It's it's the opposite of must see TV, 2174 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,080 Speaker 7: and it has been for a long time. It is, 2175 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,720 Speaker 7: and I mean this word, it is worthless. I as 2176 01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:05,799 Speaker 7: if you were getting nothing. I cannot think in any sport, 2177 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:10,080 Speaker 7: I cannot think of a pregame and halftime show connected 2178 01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,799 Speaker 7: with the game that I've needed to watch less. 2179 01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,440 Speaker 1: Ever you do, maybe Madden NFL twenty five. 2180 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:21,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna say you get Steven A walking into the stadium. 2181 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,360 Speaker 2: I mean that's now their big thing of like the stephn. 2182 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,080 Speaker 7: A as if he's the equal player. 2183 01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:28,200 Speaker 1: Yes, and then he's not there half the time because 2184 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 1: he's grabbed a flight to go do his first take thing. 2185 01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,519 Speaker 1: And so they're in the postgame and like here's Bob 2186 01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 1: Myers and Michael Wilbon. It's like, with all due respect, guys, 2187 01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:37,200 Speaker 1: I gotta go. 2188 01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:42,280 Speaker 7: The NBA Finals continue Monday. Make sure to set the DVR. 2189 01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,839 Speaker 7: Boston up three games to one, will be hosting Dallas. 2190 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,559 Speaker 7: If there's a game six s it's at Dallas Thursday night. 2191 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,280 Speaker 7: By the way, we can update the stat Kyrie Irving 2192 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,040 Speaker 7: in the past three seasons playoffs included. Is now one 2193 01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:57,439 Speaker 7: in thirteen against the Celtics, and the Mad season is 2194 01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:01,880 Speaker 7: still alive. The Celtics were pretty good home team regular season. Yeah, 2195 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 7: they had been seven to zero on the road this postseason, 2196 01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,000 Speaker 7: but they were the one seed for a reason. They 2197 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:12,200 Speaker 7: are fifteen and three overall this postseason, and at home 2198 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,479 Speaker 7: they went thirty seven and four regular season. They are 2199 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,720 Speaker 7: back home on Monday night, and keep in mind when 2200 01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,960 Speaker 7: the Celtics take a double digit lead this postseason, they're 2201 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,839 Speaker 7: undefeated thirteen and zero. The hockey season continues with Florida 2202 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,680 Speaker 7: hosting Game five at the Stanley Cup Final on Tuesday night. 2203 01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,080 Speaker 7: Florida did lose eight to one at Edmonton tonight, ending 2204 01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 7: a six game winning streak. They'd won every playoff game 2205 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,760 Speaker 7: since trailing the East Final two games to one after 2206 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,280 Speaker 7: a couple overtime losses, but the Panthers lead now three 2207 01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:45,000 Speaker 7: games to one in the final. WNBA wins for New 2208 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:49,200 Speaker 7: York and Connecticut. Ludwig Obert was the US Open leader 2209 01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,720 Speaker 7: to start the day by one stroke. He shot seventy three, 2210 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,200 Speaker 7: fell to a tie for fifth. He's five back. Bryson 2211 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,280 Speaker 7: Deshambo leads the US Open by three strokes after a 2212 01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,920 Speaker 7: third round sixty seven. You'd think he wasn't on the 2213 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,439 Speaker 7: live golf tour. As much cheering for this golfer there 2214 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,839 Speaker 7: was on the course today and the chance of USA. 2215 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,760 Speaker 7: Rory McElroy is tied for second place in Pinehurst, North Carolina. 2216 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,800 Speaker 7: Bengals wide receiver T Higgins signed his franchise tag, so 2217 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,559 Speaker 7: he'll report to camp next month. By the way, UFL 2218 01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,760 Speaker 7: kicker Jake Bates with three sixty yarders this season due 2219 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 7: to sign with the Detroit Lions. He played for the 2220 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 7: Michigan Panthers. The UFL championship game tomorrow on Fox TV 2221 01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 7: has Birmingham with MVP quarterback Adrian Martinez against San Antonio 2222 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,640 Speaker 7: coach by Wade Phillips. That's five pm Eastern tomorrow. 2223 01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,200 Speaker 3: That's like a washed up football mad libs right there. 2224 01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:39,599 Speaker 3: I got them all in. 2225 01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 1: Yes. 2226 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,439 Speaker 7: At Fox TV, we'll have England's opener at the Euro 2227 01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:47,280 Speaker 7: Soccer Tournament against Serbia three pm Eastern time. Winnesday for Spain, 2228 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:51,040 Speaker 7: Switzerland and Italy. The late MLB game went to the 2229 01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:54,160 Speaker 7: White Sox. This is stunning. A team that was eighteen 2230 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:57,599 Speaker 7: and fifty three just dominated on the road as they 2231 01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,680 Speaker 7: have not all year, nine to two. The final at 2232 01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,759 Speaker 7: Airs on FS one and Kansas City beat the Dodger 2233 01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,880 Speaker 7: seven to Dodger starting pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto left after two innings. 2234 01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,720 Speaker 7: With triceps tightness. He'll likely go on the IL. 2235 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 3: Back to you. 2236 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,960 Speaker 2: Thank you may about Steve the Sager, Fox Sports Radio, 2237 01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Ertors, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the 2238 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,280 Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios to Sega, we appreciate you have 2239 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:22,679 Speaker 2: a great evening. Saga will be back tomorrow with the Gang. 2240 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,800 Speaker 2: Uh so we kind of teased it the sweat Hogs. 2241 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,439 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Chris Plank and Arnold Horshack right there, so 2242 01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,599 Speaker 2: we teased it. Charles Barkley, you know what, do we 2243 01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 2: have the sound rather than reading it? All right, Mary Mack, 2244 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,400 Speaker 2: go ahead, Here's what Charles Barkley said on Friday night 2245 01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,080 Speaker 2: after Game four of the NBA Finals. 2246 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 8: You know, there's been a lot of noise around on 2247 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:48,200 Speaker 8: network the last few months, and I just want to 2248 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,720 Speaker 8: say I've talked to all the other networks, but I 2249 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:55,479 Speaker 8: ain't going nowhere other than TNT. But I have made 2250 01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:59,640 Speaker 8: the decision myself, no matter what happens, next year is 2251 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,640 Speaker 8: going to be my last year on television. 2252 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,679 Speaker 2: You heard it straight from the horse's mouth. Charles Barkley 2253 01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,840 Speaker 2: says tomorrow next year will be the last year on television. Obviously, 2254 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:12,720 Speaker 2: that is when the TNT contract expires at the end 2255 01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:15,120 Speaker 2: of next year. First of all, it's worth noting like 2256 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,880 Speaker 2: like the executives at Turner said something like, we we 2257 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,519 Speaker 2: look forward to continuing this conversation. So I don't know 2258 01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,960 Speaker 2: if they think that they maybe are getting a smaller 2259 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 2: package or if. 2260 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,320 Speaker 1: That yeah, that's what That's what I've read is that 2261 01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:31,479 Speaker 1: they are trying to secure something smaller, And I wonder 2262 01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:32,600 Speaker 1: what that actually is. 2263 01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:34,760 Speaker 3: So what do you think of it? 2264 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:35,040 Speaker 1: Though? 2265 01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,400 Speaker 2: So like do you think do you think he do 2266 01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:40,080 Speaker 2: you think he really believes in his heart he's done? 2267 01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:41,519 Speaker 3: Do you think you know? 2268 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 2: Because my thought is he said, I won't work for 2269 01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,880 Speaker 2: another TV network and and and I think he said 2270 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,479 Speaker 2: in passing like the idea of kind of starting his 2271 01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:52,920 Speaker 2: own broadcasting thing and maybe just having a postgame show 2272 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,000 Speaker 2: like you know, Shannon Sharp does the postgame show on YouTube? 2273 01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,280 Speaker 2: Or Colin cat like like, or do you just think 2274 01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:02,200 Speaker 2: he's done, done, not broadcasting anywhere at all? 2275 01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:03,400 Speaker 3: Like what did you make of that news? 2276 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,439 Speaker 1: Charles is a free spirit. I make of it that 2277 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 1: Charles when he said that minute, I also look at 2278 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,880 Speaker 1: the circumstances and I say, well, what's happening in Charles 2279 01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:18,639 Speaker 1: Barkley's professional life or what's happening around Charles Barkley's professional 2280 01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:22,800 Speaker 1: life in the past handful of months. First, my show 2281 01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:26,600 Speaker 1: with Gail King on CNN tanked and got and just 2282 01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,599 Speaker 1: turned into an unmitigated disaster and didn't last. It failed completely. 2283 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,040 Speaker 1: So and that's the thing that hadn't happened to be 2284 01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:37,439 Speaker 1: much in broadcasting. If I'm Charles Barkley and now My Home, 2285 01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:42,639 Speaker 1: my Family, Ernie Kenny, Shack, Underdog, the whole crew at TNT, 2286 01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,360 Speaker 1: all the guys, and the thing that I've mentioned from 2287 01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:48,280 Speaker 1: the beginning that to me is the most interesting about 2288 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,720 Speaker 1: T and T and the Turner situation that's not talked 2289 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,719 Speaker 1: about is a lot of guys also work for NBA TV, 2290 01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,040 Speaker 1: because that's kind of a Turner sponsored deal too, So 2291 01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:57,920 Speaker 1: how does that work? And maybe that is part of 2292 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,760 Speaker 1: the deal is well, let's keep NBA TV, let's keep 2293 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,519 Speaker 1: you know, C Smith and Dennis Johnson, and maybe we 2294 01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 1: can then move some of these guys over there, but 2295 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:11,120 Speaker 1: or I should say, Dennis Scott. But at the same time, 2296 01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,320 Speaker 1: I do think Charles looks at all that, and he 2297 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that morale was terrible with all the people, with 2298 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,880 Speaker 1: everything that's been swirling, and so I think that he's 2299 01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,000 Speaker 1: probably down. I think that right now he doesn't he's 2300 01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of probably jaded, probably doesn't want to do TV today. 2301 01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:31,560 Speaker 1: He's just he's ready to call it quits because of 2302 01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:35,160 Speaker 1: the circumstances. I also think that a year from now, 2303 01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:39,200 Speaker 1: the circumstances could be drastically different and it could be 2304 01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:41,439 Speaker 1: his own thing. It could be and if look, if 2305 01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,720 Speaker 1: he goes and does a YouTube show, or if he 2306 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,759 Speaker 1: goes and does something kind of external where those guys 2307 01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,599 Speaker 1: decide they're going to start a company and they're gonna 2308 01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:53,840 Speaker 1: do their own thing, Everyone's gonna go find it and 2309 01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,680 Speaker 1: watch it. It's going to succeed on its own independently 2310 01:53:56,720 --> 01:53:59,559 Speaker 1: because it's grown bigger than whatever network it's on. You 2311 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:05,840 Speaker 1: look at, like Joe Rogan or Howard Stern or you 2312 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,120 Speaker 1: know insert name here. There are some people that are 2313 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,599 Speaker 1: bigger than their medium, They're bigger than their network. Wherever 2314 01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,799 Speaker 1: they go, people are going to seek them out. Barkley 2315 01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,360 Speaker 1: is one of those types. And maybe he knows that already, 2316 01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,080 Speaker 1: or maybe that's something that he will learn in the years. 2317 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:20,519 Speaker 1: Just say Okay, well I could go do this on 2318 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,080 Speaker 1: my own. We can sell it this way, we can 2319 01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:25,000 Speaker 1: monetize it this way, and we can do it. So 2320 01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,719 Speaker 1: my answer is, I think he meant it in the moment, 2321 01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:33,160 Speaker 1: but I think that no one's going to hold him 2322 01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 1: to it, and I think it's a very loose statement 2323 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,920 Speaker 1: that is not a lie. I don't think he is 2324 01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:43,400 Speaker 1: deceiving anyone. I think he does as you said. I 2325 01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,080 Speaker 1: think in his heart he believes he's gonna leave after 2326 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,800 Speaker 1: next year. I do not think that's the last time 2327 01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,120 Speaker 1: we're going to hear from Charles Barkley. 2328 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:51,120 Speaker 3: So I agree. 2329 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:54,120 Speaker 2: I think the morale point is really good, and I 2330 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,320 Speaker 2: just think he's got too much to say. I mean, 2331 01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,160 Speaker 2: and I know we got it, we cut back and 2332 01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,480 Speaker 2: maybe even just discuss his brief on the back end, 2333 01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,960 Speaker 2: But like he's he doesn't seem like a hard guy 2334 01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,720 Speaker 2: to get if you have a high profile podcast or 2335 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,080 Speaker 2: radio show, and I just I can't envision him just 2336 01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,160 Speaker 2: completely cutting it off, because not only is he really 2337 01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:16,960 Speaker 2: good at it, it seems as though he really enjoys it. 2338 01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,240 Speaker 2: And you know, I think he could still do a 2339 01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:21,600 Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that he wants to do in 2340 01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:25,800 Speaker 2: the offseason and still have that as well. So we'll 2341 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:28,400 Speaker 2: see I find it interesting. I'm with you as I 2342 01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,520 Speaker 2: think he means it in the moment. I have a 2343 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:36,080 Speaker 2: feeling come the twenty twenty five twenty six NBA season, 2344 01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:39,240 Speaker 2: he'll be doing something somewhere and as you said, Jason, 2345 01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 2: will all be watching Fox Sports Radio. Eron towards Jason Martin, 2346 01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com Studios. 2347 01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:45,360 Speaker 3: Come back, wrap the show. 2348 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:50,720 Speaker 2: How about this from a Hall of Fame broadcaster potentially 2349 01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,760 Speaker 2: stepping away, how about the greatest of all time in 2350 01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:56,080 Speaker 2: his craft. 2351 01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,520 Speaker 3: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. 2352 01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:04,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio ra towards Jason Martin, 2353 01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:07,080 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com Studios. 2354 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,520 Speaker 3: We're taking it up till the top of the hour. 2355 01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,280 Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fredo Show takes the baton 2356 01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:17,160 Speaker 2: from us at two am Eastern time. You know, Bernie's 2357 01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,040 Speaker 2: got a lot to say on what was a busy 2358 01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 2: week in sports, Jason, including. 2359 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:31,440 Speaker 3: Major news out of Major League Eating. 2360 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:35,760 Speaker 2: Jason, did you see the big Joey Chestnut news? So 2361 01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,000 Speaker 2: I'll set it up, but we got some context the 2362 01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:43,120 Speaker 2: next day which makes sense. So Joey Chestnut sixteen time 2363 01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:46,480 Speaker 2: Hot dog eating champ banned from. 2364 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 3: The Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. 2365 01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:52,959 Speaker 2: Now, they claimed it was because he was in another 2366 01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:57,200 Speaker 2: hot dog eating contest with a vegan hot dog. But 2367 01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,480 Speaker 2: then a day later we found out that he actually 2368 01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:02,680 Speaker 2: has a made for TV hot dog eating contests on 2369 01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,120 Speaker 2: Netflix with Kobyashi, and so I think that's where it 2370 01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,120 Speaker 2: kind of comes in. Crazy week in the world of 2371 01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,160 Speaker 2: professional eating. I was not ready for a Joey Chestnut 2372 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:13,800 Speaker 2: controversy in the middle of my week. 2373 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:14,880 Speaker 3: Man, I'm not gonna lie. 2374 01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,880 Speaker 1: So we talk a lot about well, the narrative is, 2375 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have a league, you have Caitlin Clark. Yeah, 2376 01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:26,760 Speaker 1: when you look at the WNBA, so true. This one 2377 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,960 Speaker 1: is even like way. 2378 01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:32,040 Speaker 2: Further in the same Can you name another professional eater 2379 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,280 Speaker 2: besides Joey Chestnut and Kobyashi who obviously. 2380 01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is no. I mean Kobyashi was the 2381 01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,920 Speaker 1: only one I knew until Joey Chestnut and that's it. 2382 01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,000 Speaker 1: So if Nathan's is going, if they were actually going 2383 01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:47,160 Speaker 1: to ban them and keep them out of it, then 2384 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,760 Speaker 1: just nobody's gonna care about the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating 2385 01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,960 Speaker 1: Contest that cared about it prior now I don't know 2386 01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,440 Speaker 1: what that community is. I'm not one of them. I'm 2387 01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of grossed out by the whole thing. Actually not 2388 01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of. I'm incredibly grossed out by the whole thing. 2389 01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like you don't have a sport, 2390 01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,640 Speaker 1: you have one, dude. And so I look at it 2391 01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,280 Speaker 1: all and just say, all right, well, if Joey and 2392 01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:11,800 Speaker 1: kobeyash you're going to do this thing on Netflix, then 2393 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:14,600 Speaker 1: everybody just watches that. Now. The one thing, if you're 2394 01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:18,720 Speaker 1: smart and you're Nathan's, it's all about Joey Chestnut. So 2395 01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,560 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna ban you, Joey, you go do 2396 01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:23,520 Speaker 1: this thing and make your money. We're gonna get ourselves 2397 01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,120 Speaker 1: another champion, and then it's going to be our guy 2398 01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:29,680 Speaker 1: versus you, you know, one on one deal and we 2399 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,760 Speaker 1: can cash in twice. That's the only other thing I 2400 01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,960 Speaker 1: thought about was maybe they understand that if they create 2401 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:39,400 Speaker 1: somebody else, then maybe they generate interest in somebody other 2402 01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,160 Speaker 1: than Joey Chestnut for Joey Chestnut to then go back 2403 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,920 Speaker 1: and try to get his crown and all that. I 2404 01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,720 Speaker 1: guess I'm that's the pro wrestling mentality in me coming out. 2405 01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:50,280 Speaker 1: But that's the only way this makes any sense at all. 2406 01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,280 Speaker 1: If you're Nathan's I don't care if you were upset 2407 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,320 Speaker 1: that you know, the Vegan impossible hot dog or whatever 2408 01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:02,720 Speaker 1: is a competitor to you with Joey Chestnut, like you're 2409 01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:06,080 Speaker 1: completely irrelevant. Like it's as if you don't even exist, 2410 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,680 Speaker 1: which I'm cool with. By the way, if you guys 2411 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:10,400 Speaker 1: want to just go back selling hot dogs and not 2412 01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:13,440 Speaker 1: doing the contest, I'm all for it. But if we're 2413 01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing this thing, you don't have the leverage 2414 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:20,320 Speaker 1: that you think you do. Joey Chestnut is your sport. 2415 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:21,640 Speaker 3: Zero doubt. 2416 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:22,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting. 2417 01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that possible pseudo conspiracy theory of Basically, 2418 01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:31,680 Speaker 2: it's like in boxing when like you have a champ 2419 01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,560 Speaker 2: and you're like champ. If you don't fight the number 2420 01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,440 Speaker 2: one contender, you lose the belt, and then they've refused 2421 01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,200 Speaker 2: to fight the number one contender, and then the number 2422 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:41,080 Speaker 2: one contender gets the belt and then the other champ 2423 01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:41,800 Speaker 2: comes back. 2424 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:42,200 Speaker 3: To fight them. 2425 01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:45,640 Speaker 2: So like there are other sports analogies there. I just 2426 01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:48,200 Speaker 2: find it fascinating, and I do think they're gonna learn 2427 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:52,480 Speaker 2: really quick they don't have a sport without Joey Chestnut quickly. 2428 01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:56,480 Speaker 2: Game five NBA Finals Monday night in Boston. What are 2429 01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 2: you thinking for that game, Jason. 2430 01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,120 Speaker 1: I'd like to see more this series. I'd like to 2431 02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,880 Speaker 1: see this thing be really compelling, knockdown, drag out and 2432 02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:05,640 Speaker 1: get back to Dallas. I don't think it's going to 2433 02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:08,960 Speaker 1: I think it's over. I feel like what you got 2434 02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,400 Speaker 1: in Game four was just that moment where Luca was 2435 02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,920 Speaker 1: not going to get swept, that that was not going 2436 02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:18,080 Speaker 1: to be the storyline of this thing. But I do 2437 02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:22,080 Speaker 1: not believe that they can duplicate that, and that Boston 2438 02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,680 Speaker 1: can play that badly in front of their home crowd. 2439 02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I think they'll be raising Hilario O'Brian on Monday and 2440 02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:28,000 Speaker 1: that'll be it. 2441 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:31,520 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I just think that again. I 2442 02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:33,600 Speaker 2: know I've reiterated this. I've said this two or three 2443 02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:35,800 Speaker 2: times over the course of our three hours on air. 2444 02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:39,920 Speaker 2: But teams have these in the NBA playoffs. This does happen. 2445 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:41,960 Speaker 2: You have a bad night, a bad moment, you move on. 2446 02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:45,560 Speaker 2: You know the cliche from football, You bury the game 2447 02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:47,200 Speaker 2: tape and you just move on to the next one. 2448 02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:49,920 Speaker 2: They've been the best team all playoffs. I don't think 2449 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:52,880 Speaker 2: anything changes. I think the Boston Celtics are your twenty 2450 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,680 Speaker 2: twenty four NBA champions on Monday. 2451 02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Night, tell you what we gotta get out of here. 2452 02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,840 Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew to Sager on the update desk, 2453 02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:05,320 Speaker 2: Brianna our producer extraordinaire, Mary Mac producer extraordinaire on the board. 2454 02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,720 Speaker 2: So thank all of you for all your help. Great 2455 02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,680 Speaker 2: work by everybody. From my partner Jason Martin, I am 2456 02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Torres. We'll be back next Saturday. 2457 02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Coming up. 2458 02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,760 Speaker 3: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show. This is Fox 2459 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:17,320 Speaker 3: Portraitio