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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive. Sweetie.

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Speaker 2: I'm Christine Hazeley, and today I have a wit men

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Speaker 2: my cousin, Oh my gosh, Will Packer.

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Speaker 1: I'm good Like.

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Speaker 3: We actually got like real cousin, you know, black people just.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, but no, we actually my wife is her maiden

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Speaker 4: name is Heather Hazeley.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so they actually are cousins, real family.

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Speaker 2: Real family, not like all the rest of y'all. You know,

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Speaker 2: coul y'all be calling anybody.

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Speaker 4: Good, absolutely, biting everybody to the cookout everybody, y'all cousin

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Speaker 4: this fam for real right here?

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Speaker 1: You amazing?

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Speaker 3: How are you really really good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? He was down the street. I was like, what

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Speaker 4: you're doing? We ain't playing none of this. Driving by,

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Speaker 4: I was like, what you're doing, She's like, pull up,

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Speaker 4: pull up. They put a mic on me. I was like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: See what happens.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you. I appreciate that. I absolutely no.

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Speaker 2: I had I called you when we were deciding to

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Speaker 2: do season two and I was like.

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Speaker 1: Well I really want to have you on. You were

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Speaker 1: like I'm there.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that this whole series came about because

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Speaker 2: my managers like, we want, I think it's time for

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Speaker 2: you do a podcast, and I was like, it is

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Speaker 2: my voy. I don't really feel like I have that

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Speaker 2: much to say because I don't talk that much. I

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Speaker 2: talked even saying the people I'm comfortable with, but like

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Speaker 2: just talking to cameras unless it's scripted, I really don't

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Speaker 2: feel like I have much to say. And it has

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Speaker 2: been this amazing journey, so many people healing and laughing

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Speaker 2: and all the things every single week. So I'm super

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Speaker 2: excited about how it's come along.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, you keep it positive, yes, Like

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Speaker 3: what is that about?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that story a little storytelled.

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Speaker 2: Some of you guys may know this, but when I

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Speaker 2: first moved into this house, I had a young lady

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Speaker 2: who helped me organize. She organized my closet and I

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Speaker 2: posted it because I like to support people in their

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Speaker 2: business is. And this girl was like, instead of showing

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Speaker 2: off all your bags and purses and all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: you need to go buy some land and some other things.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, who says I don't have that?

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Speaker 1: So I had time and normally I.

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Speaker 2: Did okat and my little fingers got to texting and

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Speaker 2: at the end of it, I said hashtag keep it positive.

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Speaker 1: Sweetie, and it just ran like all my fans were like,

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Speaker 1: keep it positive, sweet to keep it positive.

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Speaker 2: So we were going to do just a segment of

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Speaker 2: the show because we were going to call it Abundant

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Speaker 2: Living with Crystal Renee, and I was like, we should

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Speaker 2: do like a segment like keep it Positive, just to

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Speaker 2: spread positivity, and they were like, no, that's the name

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Speaker 2: of the show.

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Speaker 3: I like it. So I also love how you took

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Speaker 3: something that was negative. Negative.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody was trying to be negative, right, somebody's trying

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Speaker 4: to clap a little bit. And now look at this

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Speaker 4: platform and to that negative system or brother whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know. We appreciate you, sure do.

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Speaker 4: Helping to give birth to this to a great idea

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Speaker 4: for a platform you already had the platform. I love

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Speaker 4: the fact you are using your voice though, and in

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Speaker 4: the name of positivity.

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Speaker 1: We need more of that, we do.

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Speaker 2: We live in such a negative world and you get

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Speaker 2: on Instagram or Twitter's turn on the news.

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Speaker 1: Everything is so negative. Yeah, you know, so just.

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Speaker 4: That, especially in the position you're in, right, and it'll

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Speaker 4: be a little bit too, but you yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: like out in front consumer facing in front of the cameras,

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Speaker 4: you know, me being behind what I respect about you

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Speaker 4: and your peers. You guys are constantly putting yourselves out

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Speaker 4: there for judgment.

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Speaker 5: Talk about it, not just your characters, not just the roles,

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Speaker 5: not just your shows and projects and movies, but also

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Speaker 5: yourself personally, because these days, you know, are amazing.

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Speaker 4: Consumers and fans don't often know the difference, don't care

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Speaker 4: to know the difference. Try to combine it all one.

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Speaker 4: You're just a persona right, Yeah, as you know you

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Speaker 4: and I know that that's such a complete separation. The

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Speaker 4: roles you may play, the character you play, what you

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Speaker 4: even may have to do to even, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: promote a project, Yeah, may be very different than who

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Speaker 4: you are personal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, But a lot of times, you know, folks don't

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Speaker 3: give people like you grace for that. They don't ought

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Speaker 3: to be one thing. They want to be perfect when

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Speaker 3: they see you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they want to see you exactly the way that

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Speaker 4: they see you after you've gone through hair, makeup and

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Speaker 4: what drove and reading scripted lines.

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Speaker 3: Also exactly what they want in their minds.

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Speaker 2: That is it, And it gets so heavy, Will yeah,

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Speaker 2: it gets so heavy.

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Speaker 1: August was a really heavy month for me, and I

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Speaker 1: just had to delete my Instagram, did you really? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I had to just completely detach myself from the world

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Speaker 2: because all these like everybody need something.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's like, can you do this?

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Speaker 2: Can you do the cannet or it's all these opinions

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Speaker 2: and we need more of this, we need more of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm just one person. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's almost like I feel like they own you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about the time we first met.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if you remember.

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Speaker 1: This, Stuth the Yard two.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: Really I was an extra.

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Speaker 3: You're an extra South too? What?

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Speaker 1: I was an extra in south Y R two.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was like November December was cold

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Speaker 2: or is early party whenever it was. It was cold outside, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I was sitting under ten it was raining that day.

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Speaker 2: All the extra were sitting outside under a tent. Just

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Speaker 2: we're just all of a sudden, I remember exactly what

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Speaker 2: I had on that day. Really had on a burnt

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Speaker 2: orange swayed Bebie jacket. Okay, okay, dating myself, but I

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Speaker 2: had a BB jacket on and this production assistant came

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Speaker 2: outside and said, orange Jacket, come here, and I was

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Speaker 2: like me and he was like yeah, And I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: saw walk inside. We're in Pooch's Pooch Hall's house, like

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Speaker 2: I guess the frat house, and you were. You and

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Speaker 2: Rob Hardy were there, and you were like, all right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna use you as Pooch Hall's girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: He's a senior in college. He doesn't have a girl.

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Speaker 2: So everywhere we see Pooch from this point on in

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Speaker 2: the film, you'll be there.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, cool.

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Speaker 2: And that was the first time because I had been

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Speaker 2: doing background work everywhere I could.

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Speaker 1: In the city. And this is when at two thousand

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Speaker 1: and what year was that? Was that two thousand and twelve,

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Speaker 1: ten or twelve? When did some of the yard.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, two thousand.

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Speaker 4: You know what's crazy is that I had not too

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Speaker 4: long started dating Heather exactly.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that had to be ken right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, twenty ten, Yeah, and I was trying.

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Speaker 2: I was this the industry was really just getting popping

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Speaker 2: I was doing background work, just trying to get in.

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Speaker 2: That was the first time I actually felt seen in

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Speaker 3: Really yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, it's the only listen.

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Speaker 1: I need to find that.

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Speaker 2: I should have saved that, but it was that moment

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Speaker 2: where I was like, Okay, there's something here I can

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Speaker 2: If I'm getting asked to do this, I know I

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Speaker 2: can do more.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and then fast forward to think like a man one.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It was a small role in the beginning. Tika Sumter

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Speaker 2: Me Andayla had gotten cool okay, and I flew out

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Speaker 1: Is it Kim Harden? Kim Harden?

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Speaker 3: She was.

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Speaker 4: I was so value you know, you at the level

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Speaker 4: you at now, so you can look back and beyond it, Like.

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Speaker 3: What was it I'm trying to remember.

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Speaker 2: I think it was when Michael Ely was like trying

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Speaker 2: girls kept changing at the table.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and it was one of them.

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Speaker 4: That's so interesting because that was obviously that was before

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so short in the very beginning, but

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Speaker 4: So after Stomp the Yard too and shout out to

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Speaker 4: p to twitch. Yeah, amazing acting choreographer who some of you,

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Speaker 3: It passed away. But after that, then you when you.

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Speaker 4: Flew to later audition, was it like did Kim request

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Speaker 4: you to come to was it open and you knew

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Speaker 3: You were like, like, how did you end up?

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Speaker 2: I think that was yeah, yeah, because I was doing

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Speaker 2: music and me and Chela gotten really cool.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is.

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Speaker 2: No I was doing just doing music, got music and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like we had this small role. You should come.

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Speaker 3: It came before makeup. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Makeup is just what I like to do. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just do that for fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Got you styling?

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Speaker 1: Styling?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? Yeah, came before you were startling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, And I actually started styling because I

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Speaker 3: Smart yeah, very smart. By the way.

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Speaker 4: Listen to that, right, because it's not always that you

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Speaker 4: can just jump in at the position that you you

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Speaker 4: know want to you can, but you put yourself in

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Speaker 4: the proximy, in the orbits you excellent.

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Speaker 3: You showed your greatness, which is a thing of mine.

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Speaker 4: I always say, show your greatness, and so you showed

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Speaker 4: your greatness, and you know, look at you now, but

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Speaker 4: you put yourself. Some people would have said, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to do anything but the one singular vision that

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Speaker 4: I had, and you didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: You know, it sounds like that benefited you.

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Speaker 1: It did, It really did.

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Speaker 2: And working behind the scenes doing costuming, costume designing really

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Speaker 1: So I have a different perspective as an actor.

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Speaker 2: I understand the lighting guy, understanding the camera guy, understanding

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Speaker 1: I understand the grips and everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: So last summer I get a call and they're like,

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Speaker 2: What it And they were like, it's a first lady

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Speaker 1: Yes, amazing, earned yes and had it and they had the.

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Speaker 1: Period?

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Speaker 3: But you earned that.

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Speaker 1: It was just so much fun. It was a lot

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you said that because I didn't remember,

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Speaker 3: I was about to make them something.

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Speaker 4: I was definitely gonna be like its firing Club one

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Speaker 2: She called me one one weekend, one night it was Halloween,

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Speaker 2: Yes, where we go in Atlanta? I feel like it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I came in and I was a I feel

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Speaker 1: And then you married her resident history.

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Speaker 3: Life.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I love y'all.

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Speaker 4: Y'all though, because she's so you know, it's a lot,

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Speaker 2: When that yes, back when, Yeah, y'all just celebrated eight years, yes, anniversary.

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Speaker 2: How do you manage I know, like in this industry,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, you are so on point when

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Speaker 4: And a lot of my friends, like a lot of

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Speaker 3: I tell people that I'm dating, you.

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Speaker 3: You know, I say all the time, how you see

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Speaker 3: Like my social media managers like, give me more of

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Speaker 3: people really like you and Heather together. Give me more

448
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 3: of that.

449
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 4: And so I'm like, Okay, I'll try give us an

450
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 4: idea for something to do, but for the most part,

451
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 4: you have to catch it organically because if we're doing

452
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 4: it for the gram, then it feels like you. So

453
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 4: number one, we don't live our relationship on social media.

454
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 4: Number Two, you said that we go everywhere together. That's

455
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 4: so true. And I will say this, and I definitely

456
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 4: will say this to the guys that are watching this,

457
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 4: is that the best thing.

458
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 3: That happens for me.

459
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 4: Number One, she literally is my best friend. So I

460
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 4: like to be with her and be around but also Heather,

461
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 4: even when I'm like, okay, you know, I gotta go

462
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 4: somewhere and I'm gonna be gone for two weeks, you know,

463
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 4: or a week. I'mna be going for a week. Maybe

464
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 4: you don't have to go if you don't want to.

465
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 4: She always is like, now I'm gonna go ahead and go.

466
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go, And it lets me give her a

467
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,239
Speaker 4: hard time, like you always want to go everywhere I go.

468
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: But secretly, I'm like, I love her being there, and

469
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 4: it just strengthens our relationship because if you really like

470
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 4: the person that you're with, then what like, of course

471
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 4: I want to be around because she actually strengthens me,

472
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 4: makes me feel better.

473
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: Now she's not draining.

474
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 4: There's some people in relationships that are draining, and you like,

475
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: I really need a break, not just that we've been

476
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 4: together forever break, but I need just a break from

477
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 4: that person's energy.

478
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: Well that's a red flat, right.

479
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 4: You want somebody who is actually filling you up and

480
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 4: not draining. So we are together a lot, and now

481
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: that our kids are out of the house, because our kids,

482
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: our youngest is in college, so now they're out of

483
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 4: the house, we really are loving this.

484
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: Phase because you know, I love my kids. I can't

485
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: wait for them to get out the house. You telling them,

486
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 3: I said that they.

487
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 4: Know it ain't the shame, but it gives us so

488
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 4: much more freedom at this stage in our lives. Whether

489
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 4: you were in a relationship where you got young kids,

490
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 4: older kids travel a lot, don't travel a lot, what

491
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 4: you really want to try to do is find those

492
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 4: areas where you're both feeding each other. I've always said,

493
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 4: when I keep her smiling, she keeps me smiling. So

494
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 4: my job is to make her happy, keep her smiling,

495
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 4: because then she has everything that she needs to keep

496
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 4: me smiling and keep me happy. And she knows, especially

497
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 4: in our relationship, like you know, I like to say.

498
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 3: She keeps me upright, She's like, Okay, what do you need?

499
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 4: I got to give it to you, keep it up

500
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 4: right because you're giving this to the family and to us.

501
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 3: But she can't give it to me if I'm not

502
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: giving it to her.

503
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: So whatever your dynamic of your relationship is, it needs

504
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 4: to be that cycle right. And the other thing I

505
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: say is that, you know, we kind of treat our

506
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 4: relationship like the Crown.

507
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: Did you watch?

508
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 4: So the thing about the Crown is that no matter

509
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: what was going on, they was getting, they was gonna

510
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 4: stay together.

511
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: And it was a mess.

512
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: Now I'm not encouraging putting up with some craziness, but

513
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 4: the mentality was, it's.

514
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: Us like, that's not an option. It was not great

515
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: divorce and leading is not an option.

516
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: And I would give I would give all props to

517
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 4: Heather because I my parents were together, you know, forever

518
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 4: till my father passed. So I saw a relationship where

519
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: it was like they stayed together. So I definitely had

520
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: that mentality. But I also like most men where you know, look,

521
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 4: we were shut down. Men are not as mature as y'all,

522
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: and we were shut down and be like, all right,

523
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 4: well you know what you burnt the toasin.

524
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: You got mad with me, So I guess how we

525
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: splitting the kids? You want to do? What we're doing

526
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: with customers?

527
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 4: Like dudes would just we we'd be ready to be out.

528
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: And I can fall victim to that.

529
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 4: But one thing I know is that my wife just

530
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: she ain't gonna let me go nowhere, right even when

531
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: I'm on my immature silliness, she'd be right there like, well,

532
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: you're just gonna to figure it out with me next

533
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 4: to you. And so I know that we don't have

534
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 4: any other option alternative.

535
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: So we figure it out.

536
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: Once you make it an option to end the relationship,

537
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: then it never be somebody's gonna push the button. If

538
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 4: there's a button of ended, somebody's gonna push it if

539
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 4: there's no button at all, you know.

540
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: And the last thing I say is, so two things are.

541
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 4: Kind of movies that inspired the Crown because it's like

542
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: them people stay together.

543
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

544
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

545
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: No matter what it's like, that's not the option. So

546
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 4: we gotta figure it out. The other thing is Game

547
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 4: of Thrones.

548
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if you watch that show, so we connect.

549
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: So Game of Thrones, you know, there's a scene there's

550
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: a concert left in there about the White Walkers, these

551
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: crazy zombie folks that were coming. And you had all

552
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: these people that were fighting, these various kingdoms fighting. But

553
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 4: some folks would always say the enemy is to the north,

554
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: Like we can fight all we want, but the true

555
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: enemy is to the north. Hell, Heather and I say

556
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 4: that when we get into something and it's an external pressure.

557
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: Either she or I will always say, listen, the enemy

558
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: is to the north. This ain't the enemy. You ain't

559
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: the enemy. I ain't the enemy. The enemy is to

560
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: the north. It's whatever happened with that external thing and

561
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 3: the same thing is true. So some are celeb couples.

562
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: The enemy is people on social media saying stuff, dropping stuff,

563
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 4: trying to throw salt. They ain't got nothing better to do.

564
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: That's the enemy to the north. Like no, that, don't

565
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 4: let that impact their relations I love that.

566
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: The enemy to the north.

567
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: That is y'all give it up.

568
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: Yes, the people needed that because it's like every time

569
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: it's like what if people you released expecting like wait what,

570
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: I know what happened?

571
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: I know we need to hear that.

572
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 4: There's different pressures the days on folks awful. You don't

573
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: have to be a celebrity. Somebody watching this right now

574
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to make it through their marriage,

575
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: you know, try to remove the external pressure, try to

576
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: keep it internal and try to figure out if you

577
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 4: can solve it internally.

578
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: Before you get it.

579
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes external could be a mom that's trying to do

580
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: well means well, giving advice. I know what I'm talking about.

581
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 4: They're not in your relationship. The best friend not in

582
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 4: your relationship, the cousin not in your relationship.

583
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 3: It's you and that person.

584
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: That's so good. Yeah, that's good.

585
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: I want to know a little bit, and I'm sure

586
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: the audience wants to know to a little bit about

587
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: your journey and how you even got started.

588
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, they see Will Packard today, will power Packer today.

589
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: But like, what was the beginning beginning for you?

590
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 4: It was when I was at FAMU and yeah, I was, yes,

591
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 4: absolutely shout out to the rattlers and and I did

592
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 4: not at the time when I first came to fam you,

593
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: being a filmmaker wasn't a dream of mine. I wanted

594
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: to be an entrepreneur and I was. I didn't even

595
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 4: want to go to fam you.

596
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: Honestly, I wanted to go to.

597
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: The University of Pennsylvania because they are an Ivy League

598
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: school with a very well known business school, the Wharton

599
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: School of Business. I knew I wanted to have my

600
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 4: own business. That was very clear in my mind. I

601
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: wanted to work for myself.

602
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to be the boss, I wanted to be

603
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 3: the CEO. And so I was going to business school.

604
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: But I got this big scholarship to go to fam You,

605
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 4: but it was tied to engineering. I knew I didn't

606
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: want to be an engineer, but my math and science

607
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: test scores and grades were very high. I've always been

608
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: very good with that kind of analytical thinking. And my

609
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: dad was an engineer, so I knew engineering and I

610
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: got a scholarship to be an engineer. I didn't want

611
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: to be an engineer, but my parents were like, listen,

612
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: we know you want to go to that Ivy League school.

613
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: How much money they give me you? I was like, well,

614
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 4: they're not giving me any money. But I got in.

615
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: They was like, how much money is fam you give me?

616
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 4: I was like, well, they giving me everything. They were like,

617
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 4: guess where you going to school? I know that my

618
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: parents made a decision for me, and it was the

619
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: best decision made for me ever, right, And so I

620
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: go to family you and I hook up with my

621
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: lifelong friend and my line brother.

622
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: Uh cause we're both alphas, the only fraternity that there

623
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: is out there. Please make a note of that. And

624
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: so he and I. He wanted to be a filmmaker.

625
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 4: He very clearly knew he was inspired by Spike Lee

626
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: and the Hughes brothers, the Hustland Brothers, like black filmmakers that.

627
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 3: Had come for him. He knew he wanted to do that.

628
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: It was very clear.

629
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: And so I was really just kind of helping out

630
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: my friend make a movie w and I helped him

631
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: to raise the money to shoot the movie, and I

632
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: helped him to shoot it, and I helped him to

633
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: self distribute the movie. And that's how I got involved

634
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: with it. We finished that Mottle movie is called Chocolate City,

635
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: set on family's campus. Still to this day, it was

636
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: the it's the first movie shot by HBCU students out

637
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: an HBCU to get national distribution. We shot out the

638
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: movie and sitting out the Hollywood and Hollywood couldn't care less.

639
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: Then people did not return. No, they we invited them

640
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: to the world premier Chocolate City, and we would send

641
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: it to the assistant with the hope of at least.

642
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: Tell us you're not coming at least something.

643
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: That's why I try to, like, you know, my amazing

644
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: executive assistant is here today, Sean tau Heslop, and I say,

645
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: you know, let's always respond, let's.

646
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: Reply you invite us to do something.

647
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: Because then people did not reply to the assistant.

648
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: The assistance assistant couldn't say nothing.

649
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Nobody could.

650
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: Nobody replied. Hollywood couldn't care less about that movie.

651
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: However, at FAM you it was a big deal amongst

652
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: that crowd that we made it for and with. They

653
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: really cared about that movie, and I realized, well, that's who.

654
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm making my movies for.

655
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: Not people who don't know me and don't care about me.

656
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm making movies for a very core, specific audience and

657
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: that has served me well to this day. So that

658
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: little movie we came out, out shot it, made a

659
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: little money with it and actually made a lot of

660
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: money for broke college students. And that's when I said

661
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: I can do this. I've been looking for a business

662
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: to start on my own. I helped raise the money,

663
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: get the distribution. What is that call what I did?

664
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: And I looked it up, and so that's what a

665
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: movie produce. Yeah, I'm gonna be a movie producer.

666
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: Wow, that's what I'm gonna be.

667
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: I know that's right.

668
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest movie producer okay out here doing it.

669
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I love it. So now that you now you're Will Pack,

670
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: like the Will Pecker that everyone knows, and you've worked

671
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: with Regina, Regina Hall, Kevin Hard, You've done a lot

672
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: of movies.

673
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: The rest of the rest are good. I made Kevin.

674
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't know that, but you know,

675
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 4: before for Will Packard, Kevin just had a bunch of

676
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: failed sitcoms, and that's just you know, get credit what

677
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: credit is due. I made Kevin Hart. You can put

678
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: that on the quote at the bottom of this podcast.

679
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Period. But what was it calling them? Because I can

680
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: imagine they are a lot of fun to work with.

681
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: The best they are. They are, and I really enjoy.

682
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: Working with folks you know who I know and who

683
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: I know are gonna give me something. And that's that's

684
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: not unique to me, you know, Tyler, does it look

685
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: at you all the relationship looking like Maris Scorsese, How

686
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: you working on the same actors?

687
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: John? At the thing about those folks.

688
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: You name, keV, Regina Idris, I mean, first of all,

689
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: they work hard. I know that I'm gonna get what

690
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: I need from a work ethic standpoint, because there's some

691
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: amazing talents out there that it's not worth it to

692
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: work with them. I hate to say that, but that's

693
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: just true.

694
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: There are some folks and it is just.

695
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: So much that comes with working with these people, and

696
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: life is short, and so you know, that is something

697
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: else that's just a little nugget that I'll put out there.

698
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: Relationships Hollywood is not the only relationship driven business, right

699
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: most industries, people work with the people that they like

700
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: to work with. And so if all things are equal,

701
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: and you got a certain level of talent, somebody else

702
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: got a certain level, but you hard to deal with.

703
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: Don't nobody like working with you? Guess who're gonna continuously

704
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: get hired? And so I definitely have a great relationship

705
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: with those folks because they always delivered for me.

706
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: I know what I'm gonna get from them.

707
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: And I was there at the at the you know,

708
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: start of it, just just the actual career. He already

709
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: had the wire. So he's are I mean, all these

710
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: people are already amazing. I helped you say I made.

711
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: What I would say is that it just has always.

712
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: Wanted to be me.

713
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: That's kind of good thing because he's like when I dress,

714
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: when I wake with the money, how can I be

715
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: Will Packer? Like you can kind of see whatever he does.

716
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: He's like, how can I be Will?

717
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Like?

718
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: It's just you know whatever, that's not.

719
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: The point that's see it.

720
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Of course, either you.

721
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: Like about Indris, you kind of look at me and

722
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: it's like, oh that's Will. There's the original and then

723
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: there's right, somebody that's trying.

724
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: But it's fine. I don't. I don't just bespirch my brother,

725
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: good luck, you know whatever.

726
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: Uh So with DRIs, he was coming off the wire

727
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: and his first his first theatrical movie was a little

728
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: movie I made called The Gospel, and it was a movie.

729
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: Remember the good Victory?

730
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was you how about do.

731
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: You know Snoop Dogg wanted that song victory If you

732
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: go back when everybody hit pause for a second and

733
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: played Victory on your Spotify music or whatever, that song

734
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: you could also hear a hip hop version of that song,

735
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: and Yolanda got it, but Snoop wanted it because it's

736
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: a dope track. So I got the Victory Elana Adams. Anyway,

737
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: we put that song in The Gospel, right, Kirk Franklin

738
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: did the sound. Red Hammond was in it. Donnie McClerkin

739
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: like yeah, and it just played a southern pastor and

740
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: Boris Kojo it just elbaw like.

741
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: You know, non again.

742
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: It was a great cast, great cast, and it was

743
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: because what happened was after I did Chocolate City, I

744
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: then made a movie with Kenyamore called Tah and lot

745
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: of thrillers.

746
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: Listen, people know okay, right? The team was twining it

747
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: up once. She she was.

748
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: I made it in rockviller call twas y'all assume y'all

749
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: remember that, and then Hollywood will only let me do

750
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: other twas.

751
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: I got pigeonholed for a second.

752
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: We want this, So I did.

753
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: Three Pandora's box and I and my mom said, baby,

754
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: now you know that like you grew up in the church,

755
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: stopped playing.

756
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: You grew up in the A and B church. Best

757
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: of laying me down here in Saint Pete.

758
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: Florida, give me something that I could take my missionary

759
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: sisters too, because you're.

760
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Embarrassing me right now. Well, here is.

761
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: The other side of that story, Chris.

762
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: She was taking her missionary sisters to see all my

763
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: little tir and rodic thriller movie and they weren't complaining.

764
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: Was older church ladies was going to support all my

765
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: little erotic thriller.

766
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: Movie first weekend.

767
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: And so my mom was like, well, give us something

768
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: else that we can go to, right because we don't

769
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: have to sneak.

770
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: In the back. I said, I got you.

771
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: But I had wanted to do a faith based movie anyway,

772
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: So I made this movie, The Gospel, and that was.

773
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: It just's first movie after the Wire, and that's.

774
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: The one that really kind of got because you know,

775
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 4: everything is a stepping stone. You talked about you being

776
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: on the set as an extra of Stompy. I'm sure

777
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 4: you had done other extra things, and then now you

778
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 4: and I working together, and you you know, one of

779
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: my main actors in that movie praised this.

780
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: But it was steps to get there. It's always steps.

781
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: So it took steps.

782
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: I didn't go straight from oh, I want to be

783
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: a filmmaker to Stomp the Yard, which was my first

784
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 4: number one movie. I went to the toase and then

785
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: I went to the Gospel, and the Gospel was successful

786
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: and that opened the door.

787
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: To allow me to make stomp Yard. So a lot

788
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: of times.

789
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 4: Today it feels like people just want to get right

790
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: to it. I want to skip the steps. I want

791
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: to be just successful.

792
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: Immediate, that's it.

793
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: We live in a society of immediate gratification. We live

794
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 4: in a society where you do have some people that

795
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: you know come up with a tech idea and somebody

796
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: you read and somebody bought it for a billion dollars.

797
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I want that I just want to

798
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: go and get straight to be in a billionaire, be

799
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: a thousand.

800
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: Here, hello, hold on, learn how to first absolutely, because

801
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 6: I look back, honestly, Chris, and I look at things

802
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: that I got told no, like movies that I was

803
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 6: trying to pitch and get made and I.

804
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: Got told no. And it was the best thing ever.

805
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: Because if I had gotten the budget for that movie

806
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: early and I didn't know what.

807
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: I was doing, like I know now, I'd have messed

808
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: it up and now would have been the guy that

809
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: wasted that five million dollars.

810
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: Now, I would never.

811
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Get a ten million dollar movie, you know. So I

812
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 4: worked and I had that first movie with twenty thousand.

813
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: The next movie was two hundred thousand. Next movie, Like,

814
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: I didn't get to a million dollar budget un till

815
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 4: later in my career. By then, I knew everything about

816
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 4: that what I was doing, knew how to work all

817
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: the positions on a set, and so I had a

818
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: different I was ready for it. So sometimes God is

819
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: saving you for things you're not ready for and you

820
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: don't even know.

821
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: It feels like rejection, it feels like failure, but it's growth.

822
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's good.

823
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: Yes, that was a bar that was a bar and will.

824
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: Make Kevin Heart and put that quote the thing and

825
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: then in parenthetical will also.

826
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: Make Kevin Hart and it just ever wants to be him.

827
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: So just I'm just trying to tell you how to

828
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: market this episode.

829
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

830
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: You talked about your parents basically making the decision for

831
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: you to go to FAM You, and I heard that

832
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: recently they named their performing artists Antheater after you.

833
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Crazy crazy.

834
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. If I was just nothing,

835
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: that's in my life. I got a I got a building.

836
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: With my name on a period. So y'all need to

837
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: figure out what y'all doing, because I'm straight.

838
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: I don't have another little hit movie, TV show, nothing

839
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: now it's it's it's a It's crazy because that school

840
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: means so much to me.

841
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: We know you like, why say you yell fam You

842
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: to the mountaintops like you love it?

843
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: If I love it?

844
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 7: Really we were gonna be friends if you people get

845
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 7: on your nerves HBC people in general like and I

846
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 7: can say it because one of them we would get flipped.

847
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 3: Why are you not the cinematographer is back then, like, yeah,

848
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: yours we will. I ain't even lie. We love our

849
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: little schools represented and they'd be like, Okay, enough, we

850
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: get it.

851
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: It's the pride I love.

852
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: It is the pride it gets ingrained in you doing

853
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: those four five years the best years of your life.

854
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: Family was meant so much to me as where I

855
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: really kind of found myself, found my voice, hone, so

856
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 4: many of my skills that I used to this day.

857
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, to have to have my name, uh you

858
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: know on a bill, then my album is everything.

859
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: I love that. That's amazing. Now do you get to go?

860
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: I know you always are always there. Do you have

861
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: some kids? Is any of your kids at Let.

862
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: Me tell you something about my folk lit ungrateful children say,

863
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: by these children, I fed them and gave them their

864
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 4: little privileged Sorry, I don't want to do that because

865
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: we got sponsors on this podcast and none of my

866
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 4: kids I got.

867
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: My kids are all amazing. They all are.

868
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: Harvard, Whoa, Howard, North Carolina, Anti and now USC.

869
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: I know, wow, but it ain't none of them going

870
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: to Family Christ. That's the problem.

871
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: One.

872
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 8: All these talents supported them and everything, right, you know,

873
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 8: I feel like.

874
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: Obviously my kids didn't really want to be Will Packer's kids.

875
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: That's a lot to Big Suser Field.

876
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: You know, I guess in theory would have been a

877
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: lot of eyes on them, But you know, I understand

878
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 4: that it's still just a little stings a little bit.

879
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: I can imagine.

880
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: I've always given them the grace and the freedom to

881
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 4: be like, you know, be whatever you want to be.

882
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 4: You don't have to be in daddy's industry. You have

883
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: to go to daddy's alma mater. You do whatever you

884
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: want to find it on your own, and they're finding it.

885
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: That's right. I got family to myself. I love it.

886
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: There you go.

887
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: I love my family.

888
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I love it. Yes, that's amazing. Congratulations on that.

889
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: That is huge because a lot of people can't say

890
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: they have their name on the building at their alma mater.

891
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: That's true. No, most people can't, really, sincerely.

892
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

893
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

894
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to see my parents went to TSU. Oh,

895
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: I know all about.

896
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: The HVC parents.

897
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to. Yeah.

898
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: I grew up going to homecoming every year and I

899
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: just fell in love with the school, the energy. So

900
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: in high school I was dating a guy who was

901
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: like two years older than me. He ended up going

902
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: to TSU. So it's time for me to graduate. My

903
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: parents made the choice for me not to go.

904
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: You ain't following him, whether it because of him or.

905
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: Just they were like, yeah, you're not going there.

906
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: Really.

907
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, they liked him.

908
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: But they just did not want us, like out of town.

909
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: They trust that they trusted. They was like, no, So

910
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: where'd you go?

911
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: I went to the University of Tennessee at Martin in

912
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: my hometown.

913
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

914
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: They wanted you close. Yeah, did you want to be closer?

915
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: Were you like trying to get out?

916
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: I was trying to go, but then they got me

917
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: because they told me I couldn't take my car with

918
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: me my freshman year. And as a kid, I'm eighteen

919
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: years old, I'm like, what am I gonna do with

920
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: my car?

921
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: You didn't need that car.

922
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I didn't leave my car. I should have.

923
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: Left your fans around.

924
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I stayed so I can keep my car.

925
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: You can keep your car. So you put the car

926
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: over And is he still alive?

927
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: I hope he's alive. And I guess he's well.

928
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Oh okay, cool.

929
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: So that was in them, say some interest in my wife.

930
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: Your cousin, Heather also wanted to go to TSU. She

931
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: wanted to go to HBCU too, and her parents.

932
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: Was like, no, you're not see I think it's a

933
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: Hazel thing.

934
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: They was like, you ain't ready for that.

935
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 4: You're gonna be up that party, And knowing my wife,

936
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: they was probably right, Yes, I needed to go.

937
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: So she went to like you t chat and it

938
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: was Christian Brothers.

939
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, perfect, Yeah.

940
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: That is y'all. Y'all ended up exactly what y'all we

941
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: did because family.

942
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: Life.

943
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have I know, I would have been wilding.

944
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I was wilding on Et Martin campus.

945
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: I know if I have been over rap.

946
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might have to build the name after you

947
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: for the wrong reasons. Just Letrys was turned down.

948
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: Crystal Listen couldn't wait. Freshman year. I had a good time.

949
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: I was very sheltered growing up.

950
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so when I went to college, I was like,

951
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: finally freedom.

952
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: Freedom.

953
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: Yeah we all did that, all of us, quart of

954
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: That is the growth.

955
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: It really is. Yeah, except for my kids. I'm watching y'all. Okay,

956
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: whatever I did.

957
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: Got on you watching y'all. Harvard that's amazing.

958
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah Harvard, Yeah, yeah, he did us. Yeah, they all

959
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: ended up in great school. I'm very very fortunate, very blessed.

960
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: Because you know, parenting is tricky these days.

961
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: It is.

962
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: It's very different raising kids with the pressures that they

963
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: have today. Then we were under not that we were

964
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: not under pressure, but we didn't have, you know, the

965
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: the options, the words to verbalize what we were feeling.

966
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: The eyes of the world via social media on us.

967
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: Like, there were a lot of things that were just

968
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: different in the way that we grew up and the

969
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 4: way kids are growing up today.

970
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: And some of it is is.

971
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: Much easier, much more access much you know, they have

972
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: they have they have power and agency that we didn't have.

973
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: But some of it, the pressure is crazy.

974
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: Like if there was literally a camera around everywhere that

975
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: we went and we were going up like them freshman

976
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: years of college and I had if everything.

977
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Was on the phone like brank you.

978
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: Playing exactly exactly. So you know, yeah, it's I'm very fortunate.

979
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: My kids are doing great.

980
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.

981
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Something a lot of people may or may not know.

982
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: You were the first African American to lead production for

983
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: the Oscars. What was that like coming out of COVID,

984
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: because you guys, that was like the first time people

985
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: could actually be back.

986
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Was that one of the first No, it was it was.

987
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the year before us, it was a much more limited.

988
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: So my OSCARS was twenty twenty two, right, and then

989
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: you know, obviously COVID was twenty twenty and so the

990
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one year was a much smaller.

991
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: So this is the first time that we had like

992
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: everybody back.

993
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that the whole process? Like, were you nervous?

994
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: Were you like, oh my gosh, this is done?

995
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: I was. I wasn't nervous. It was the word I

996
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: would use, But it was first of all, it was

997
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: a very long process. Right.

998
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: You know, people in the Oscars is one night, yeah,

999
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: which it is, but literally there is six, seven, eight

1000
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: months of work that lead up to that one night.

1001
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: There's so much that goes into it because it's such

1002
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: a big show. Right, it's a you know, multi hour show.

1003
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: People from all over the world are watching. You know,

1004
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: you have all of Hollywood has an opinion about the show,

1005
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: what it should be, what it shouldn't because the show

1006
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: has become, you know, something of.

1007
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: A lightning rod.

1008
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: And so it was I definitely felt pressure, but I

1009
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: was excited. Honestly, I was excited. It was more work

1010
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: than I thought. So even though I knew I thought

1011
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: it would be like producing a movie. It was like

1012
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: producing ten movies at one time.

1013
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: It was that level.

1014
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: Now I had a team, a full team of people,

1015
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: but it was a lot producing.

1016
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: That crazy Yeah, ten movies, I can imagine, like, yeah,

1017
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: getting ready for one is a lie.

1018
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 4: It's so I mean, you got the musical performances, you

1019
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: got the presenters.

1020
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: Like people think, oh, it's just it's an award show,

1021
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: it's not.

1022
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: Because I'm literally flying people in from all over the

1023
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: world to do this show. The music, you know, pieces

1024
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: are like the their own things. Yeah, you always have like,

1025
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: you know, tributes. My year, I had tributes to, you know,

1026
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: big anniversaries that were happening within the industry. That's a

1027
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: whole nother thing in and of itself. Like we did

1028
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: a tribute to to James Bond, right, and so just

1029
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: even getting all the clearances necessary to do that, getting

1030
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: the right people to present.

1031
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 3: It, it was the the thing. It was the fiftieth.

1032
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: Anniversary of The Godfather, it was, you know, that was big,

1033
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 4: and getting the folks that were involved with The Godfather

1034
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 4: on board.

1035
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: It just it was just a lot.

1036
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: And of course my year because we were the first

1037
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: black all producing team. You know, I was gonna be diverse.

1038
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: Moscars was just gonna it was gonna have flavor. It

1039
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: was so whether it was the you know, the black conductor,

1040
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: you know, D Nice.

1041
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: D James, uh, you know the.

1042
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: Trophy presenters from HBCUs, Like, we really went above and

1043
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: beyond to make sure that it was a very diverse oscars.

1044
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: And it was.

1045
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: It was all of it.

1046
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: So you know, I had to ask you, I was

1047
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 4: gonna say, exact is that we're gonna stop on, gonna

1048
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: keep going.

1049
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Were you backstage like the whole time?

1050
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: So I'm literally right by the like what is stage right?

1051
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: So I am as as presenters are going on and

1052
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: coming off there right next to me. Uh, we have

1053
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: a producer station, I got all the monitors for every camera.

1054
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: I'm on the headphones talking to the.

1055
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: The whole crew.

1056
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 4: About what's going on, talking to my director, you know,

1057
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: listening to what's happening.

1058
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: And I'm also.

1059
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: Greeting people as they go on and off the stage right.

1060
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: So you know, Chris Rock, what's going on to do?

1061
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: Let's go? You know, we had rehearsed the show a

1062
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: bunch of times. We knew everything was gonna happen.

1063
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: So you know, I adapted mop he went on stage,

1064
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 4: and so I remember about that night.

1065
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: Something happened.

1066
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Something happened all right, seriously.

1067
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 4: Because you asked about it being the first time that

1068
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: everybody was kind of all back because we were in

1069
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 4: the it's called it the the Kodak Theater an Adobe

1070
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: Theater now, but it's where the Oscars are hell and

1071
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: it was the first time we were back in that

1072
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: venue since COVID, And we had an idea to make

1073
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: the stage feel like it wasn't up so high like

1074
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: it normally is because normally in the like most concert venues,

1075
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: the stage is kind of raised, and it was seat

1076
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: in the front or lower, and we wanted to feel

1077
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: like almost like a lounge club atmosphere, and so we

1078
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: had the traditional seat to the back of theater, but

1079
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: in the area right around the stage there were like,

1080
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: you know, lounge bank type seating and the stage was lower,

1081
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: and so everybody was kind of on the same level.

1082
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: And it was to make it feel that way, looked

1083
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: that way, and also so like when people would come

1084
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: up from the their seats to accept their awards, they

1085
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 4: would just they could just walk right to the stage,

1086
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: not have to walk around the wings and climb up

1087
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 4: high like you wanted that feeling that energy.

1088
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: Now, that did something very interesting.

1089
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: It created easy, this feeling of being right there, like

1090
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: you could just go out and reach out to touch

1091
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: somebody on that stage. So yeah, part of part of

1092
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: everything that happened that night was was because we had

1093
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: changed that stage.

1094
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: Is you know, you think about all the stuff.

1095
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: That went wrong if I hadn't had him in that moment,

1096
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 4: you know, and then me you know, because the ratings

1097
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: were the there was the first time of years that

1098
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 4: the increase, but it had nothing to do with yea

1099
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: with the slap, Yeah, because the slap happened too late

1100
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 4: in the show to affect the ratings.

1101
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: The slap was in like you know, fourth or fifth hour.

1102
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: And I remember thinking like, if I've known this, I

1103
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: have put chrisal front because the bull go down, We'll

1104
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: go down with rading.

1105
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 3: Hello if it's gonna happen, bumpet like, let's go.

1106
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: But what did you say, like when you saw it

1107
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: and they're like what were you? Like, Oh my god,

1108
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Speaker 1: what just happened?

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00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 3: No, I thought it was a joke. I thought it

1110
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 3: was at first.

1111
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that was I thought y'all scrim

1112
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: to that INNI ssoe.

1113
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: At first I thought it was because remember, because it's

1114
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: such a big show and it's live, you literally run

1115
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 4: through the rehearsals of the actual show and everything's gonna happen.

1116
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: Like four or five times.

1117
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: Wow, like you literally a full show.

1118
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: You gotta get your timing right because again it's a

1119
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: live show. So we had rehearsed everything, Chris had gone

1120
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 4: up and rehearsed his jokes, and.

1121
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: When he came up, he immediately was off book.

1122
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: But if there's anybody in the world that you're not

1123
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 4: worried about going on books, what's wrong?

1124
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 3: You know, He's gonna do his thing. It's gonna be funny.

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Speaker 4: And so the first time that I, you know, knew

1126
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: something was was.

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00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: That I got a little nervous, I got a little

1128
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: bubbly stomach. Was when he made the joke. And you know,

1129
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: we cut to Jada because that's what you do.

1130
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: That's just you know, like a sentence match, you're just

1131
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 4: getting you know, Crystal says somebody name to go that

1132
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 4: person in that person you go back like you just

1133
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 4: that's so we didn't know this joke was coming, but

1134
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: we knew where everybody was positioning in the audience. You

1135
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 4: don't attack where everybody's sitting, and you have to be

1136
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: ready to move on the fly.

1137
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: So he made a Jada joke, we go to jail.

1138
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,959
Speaker 3: So Jada's reaction was the first time that I was like, ooh,

1139
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 3: that joke a lamb?

1140
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, because and you notice, because you you you

1141
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: do comedy, you're a professional.

1142
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: Like comedy is reactions.

1143
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 4: If you're not here and we're filming us and I

1144
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: tell a joke, the laugh actually comes when you react

1145
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: or when other people react. Right when you're editing a

1146
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: comedy movie. For the young filmmakers out there, it's all

1147
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: about the reaction.

1148
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: Yes, So he told the.

1149
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: Joke, and then the reaction tells the audience how to

1150
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: feel about them. And the reaction clearly was that it

1151
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: was not funny to the person who was the subject

1152
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: of the joke. And so that's the first time I

1153
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 4: was like, get off her, go off of there, like,

1154
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: let go somewhere else.

1155
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: Did he have an earpiece? Even like Chris the board mission, no.

1156
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: Air piece, He's just out there.

1157
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: He was just out But no, no, I could not

1158
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 4: talk to this man nothing.

1159
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 3: He told it and then.

1160
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 4: We went to her she clearly did not find it funny,

1161
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 4: and so it was like, all right, let's keep going.

1162
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: That was that was awkward but crangey moment, but keep going.

1163
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: When we went on stage, we thought this was part

1164
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: of something they had done, because it's not unheard of

1165
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: that people go off script or that. You know, these

1166
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 4: are actors in Hollywood. They do all kind of little

1167
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: stuff that they think is cool and funny.

1168
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: And sure enough it happened.

1169
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: And the first question I said to the director of

1170
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: the microphone was did he did he did he hit him?

1171
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Like?

1172
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: Did he actually like that?

1173
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: And then I was like, oh, y'all got to clean

1174
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 4: this up like quick like that that that ain't that funny.

1175
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: So not forget the other joke that was cringey. This

1176
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: is really crazy.

1177
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 4: Whenever y'all are planning, get to the punchline, like I'm

1178
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 4: literally thinking that Chris and Will have planned something and

1179
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: it was not.

1180
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.

1181
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: The whole thing happened. We we we have you know,

1182
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 4: Will say what he said, keep my wife's name out.

1183
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 4: You know, everybody's seeing it now. And I've had people

1184
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: say like why, like why did you show that, but again,

1185
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: you don't have I didn't have anywhere to cut to, right,

1186
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: like in the moment.

1187
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: First of all, everybody's faces in that audience was worse.

1188
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: You didn't want to want me to go to Gwyneth

1189
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: patro Or.

1190
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 8: She was like like I would, We don't want me

1191
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 8: to cut That was the whole hearted right.

1192
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: It was seven thousand people in there like that, So

1193
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: I didn't have nothing.

1194
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 4: I would have had to cut to, you know, Holly

1195
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 4: right outside the building.

1196
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: So you cut to Will because you you know that

1197
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: you're just following the action.

1198
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: It's just going according to normal procedures. Once he said

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00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: what he said, it was like.

1200
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: Okay, oh it's real.

1201
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: And then when Chris got off stage, I was the

1202
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: first person to talk to him, you know, quest love

1203
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: shout out the quest. He he got off stage, and

1204
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 4: the first I said that said did he hit you?

1205
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: Did he did he really hit you? And Chris goes, yeah,

1206
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: I just took a point from Muhammad Ali.

1207
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 4: Like he was he's a lot of that. He immediately

1208
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: told the joke. So then Chris and I go off

1209
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 4: and backstage, and and and I went I took him

1210
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 4: into my office. He went into my office backstage, right

1211
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: off the stage. Everybody's still a gas. By the way,

1212
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: if you the reason it truly truly went viral so

1213
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 4: immediately is because there was a feed and I think

1214
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 4: Australia that they did not bleep out what Will said.

1215
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: So because what happens is in LA we're sending a

1216
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: feed out to all the domestic the US ABC affiliates,

1217
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: but you sent it out to the world and all

1218
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: the affiliates that are picking it up, and they have

1219
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: different sensors in different Each country is responsible for their

1220
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: own sensors, and so I think it was Australia in

1221
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: that feed they didn't edit out what he says, so

1222
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: you can hear it all clearly. And so that's the

1223
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: clip that went out on the internet. So it really

1224
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: went super viral. In the moment Facts and my fault exploded,

1225
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 4: Oh I did, I'm back.

1226
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm literally the way as it's happened.

1227
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 4: Before Chris got off the stage, my phone just starts

1228
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: smoking like it was like everybody, like my mama was

1229
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: like that ain't funny.

1230
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I'm in a disaster right now. That

1231
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: ain't funny. By the way, when are you coming home again?

1232
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: Like my mama. That's the what she do.

1233
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: She definitely is detect something irrelevant in the wrong moment.

1234
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta love it.

1235
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wow.

1236
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: I always wondered what that was like in the moment.

1237
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, we thought it was a joke.

1238
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 4: We all thought it was a bad joke, and then

1239
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: it wasn't, and then it was like, oh my gosh.

1240
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: And then I just I just had this sinking feeling

1241
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: like not tonight.

1242
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: That's what I felt all the nights.

1243
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: And it had been going so well, and I still

1244
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: am very, very proud of that show.

1245
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: Show.

1246
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 4: I'm very proud of, you know, my amazing ladies with

1247
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 4: their hosting job.

1248
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 3: They were doing great. I'm still proud of it.

1249
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 4: Everything had been going pretty much according to plan, and

1250
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 4: I just remember having a sinking feeling of why tonight,

1251
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 4: Why why not not like this? That's why I was saying, like,

1252
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 4: not like this, That's something else happened. That's somebody let

1253
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: the wrong envelope get read or somebody trip walking up

1254
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: the STI like anything, let this be the legacy of

1255
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 4: my little show.

1256
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. That was another Yeah, what kind of.

1257
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: I now have?

1258
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm at peace, good you know, I've connected

1259
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: with it all involved and I'm at peace and.

1260
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: I love that dressed Chris Rock. He was in who

1261
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: My movie was that for Now?

1262
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: He did a move for Tyler And when I say

1263
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: he was one of the most kind, gentle spirits I've

1264
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: ever met.

1265
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: My wife.

1266
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had his constant, his wardrobe pulled out and

1267
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: I said, hey, mister Rock.

1268
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: He's like, hi, are you And I was like, well,

1269
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: these are the options.

1270
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: He goes, okay, whatever you need, and I was like,

1271
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: I'll step out so you can change, okay, and then

1272
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: I will say thank you, like my pleasure.

1273
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 1: Like so nice.

1274
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my good is like and then to

1275
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: see that happen and I love Will too, and like

1276
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: have such a high regard for him, still love you

1277
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 2: saying both of them people are human. I just feel

1278
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: like that was one of them days where I had

1279
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 2: that moment where I got town. Today.

1280
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 4: You know what I will say and we can leave

1281
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 4: it alone, is that the pressures of as you know,

1282
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: the pressures of folks on folks in our industry is unbelievable.

1283
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: It is if you're not in the industry and you know,

1284
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: you don't know what it's like. To constantly have eyeballs

1285
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: on you, constantly have somebody analyzing every word that you say,

1286
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: and you don't you know, we don't give grace for mistakes.

1287
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: Now, you got to be perfect all the time.

1288
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: There's a It takes an unbelievable toll and strain on people.

1289
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: So that's what I will say. And I just from

1290
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 4: somebody that believes we have to evaluate people for who

1291
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: they've been, you know, for a lifetime, for decades, not

1292
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 4: on a really really bad moment moment. And that's that's

1293
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: that goes for anybody.

1294
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: I love.

1295
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: Everybody makes mistakes, and so it is unbelievably difficult to

1296
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 4: be in the public eye these days, and there's going

1297
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 4: to be people who say, do and act the wrong

1298
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: way constantly.

1299
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: It will continue.

1300
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: Let's judge people on who we who they've shown us

1301
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: to be for the vast majority of their lives or

1302
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: careers or what have you, and not just on their

1303
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 4: absolute worst moments.

1304
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's the perfect notes and done.

1305
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: There we go that.

1306
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: I literally love that that's give people grace, Give.

1307
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: People grace we all deserve, and give yourself grace, yeah,

1308
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: a little bit too ourselves.

1309
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: Now we are right, give yourself a little grace. Yeah,

1310
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: they're okay, so true, keep positive.

1311
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: Keep it positive. Yeah, I love it. Okay, So we're

1312
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: back to end the show.

1313
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: What we do is positive outcomes, where our listeners writing.

1314
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: The letter and we give them advice.

1315
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1316
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read it off and we're don't see

1317
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: what can tell her?

1318
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: Okay, she goes high.

1319
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: Crystal.

1320
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: Let me start by saying, I absolutely love your podcast.

1321
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: I've been with my husband for twenty one years. I

1322
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: know him as a go getter and a provider. For

1323
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: the past eight and a half years, we've been going

1324
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: through it financially. I can see that he is frustrated

1325
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: and very down about his business not flourishing the way

1326
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: he wanted it to. I try my best to help

1327
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: him and be positive in a safe space, but when

1328
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: I try to suggest jobs that are hiring, he brushes

1329
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: me off and gets very defensive. I've always been by

1330
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: his I've always been by his side through thick and thin,

1331
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: without judgment or pressure. We have a family to provide

1332
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: and care for, which require steady paychecks, which is why

1333
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: I try to help him find other jobs so that

1334
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: we can take care of the family.

1335
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: That we made together.

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00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: How can I get my point across to him without

1337
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: making him feel less of a man? And I think

1338
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: being that you are a man, I feel like you

1339
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: may be able to speak from that man a strong opinion.

1340
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: I feel like you should go first. One.

1341
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, because.

1342
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: She doesn't say what he does, it feels like it

1343
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: was entrepreneurial. Yeah, yeah, mm hmm. It's not.

1344
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: His business is in flourishing the way he wanted it to,

1345
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: so it has to be entrepreneurs.

1346
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 4: And we think she works based on this letter. Alright,

1347
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: what's your what's your what's your two cents?

1348
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: I would tell her one.

1349
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you have a family, So he has to

1350
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: figure it out, you know. But there is a way

1351
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: to be that safe space for your man, to not

1352
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: put him down when he's not doing well. But also,

1353
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: if he's a go getter and a provider, he should

1354
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: already have that mentality like I gotta do what I

1355
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: gotta do.

1356
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, you shouldn't have.

1357
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: To like, all right, maybe you need to go find

1358
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: something else we can eat this week. I feel like,

1359
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 2: as a man, he should be trying to figure it out,

1360
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: and if it means going to do something that he

1361
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: doesn't want to do, because I can attest to me

1362
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: doing jobs that I didn't want to do to get

1363
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: where I wanted to be.

1364
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: Yep, So I feel like that would be a thing that.

1365
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: He needs to swallow his pride and but there is

1366
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: a way to do it without making your man feel less.

1367
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 4: Than Yeah, I agree with everything you said.

1368
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a different perspective.

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: Yes, that's only okay.

1370
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: I think that.

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 4: You are absolut right in that we're talking about a

1372
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: family and his job is to provide, and so ultimately

1373
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 4: it is on him, right. I believe in that. I

1374
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 4: believe that, and it doesn't have to just be the man,

1375
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 4: but I believe that there is a head of a

1376
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 4: household whose job it is to provide. And it definitely

1377
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 4: sounds like in this situation he is assuming that role

1378
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: at least he wants to.

1379
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: So.

1380
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 4: Yes, And I am somebody that believes that, you know, brother,

1381
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 4: you gotta do what you gotta do for your family,

1382
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 4: period point black. Now here's what I want you to hear.

1383
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: My sister in you two, Crystal and my other sisters,

1384
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 4: you cannot believe how unbelievably painful it is for that

1385
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: black man to be failing in his family's eyes and

1386
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 4: in his own eyes. So whatever you're saying to him,

1387
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: she's been with him twenty one years, she's referencing the

1388
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: last eight. So I have to assume that he's a

1389
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: good brother. He ain't just a you know, somebody that

1390
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 4: ain't issue right. He's somebody that has provided before, and

1391
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 4: now the business is not working out. He is being

1392
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: harder on himself than you could ever be on him.

1393
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: And so when you say, hey, here's this job, it

1394
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 4: compounds his feeling of failure and insecurity, and he feels like,

1395
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: not only am I finding it hard to believe in myself,

1396
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 4: but you don't believe in me.

1397
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying that you're wrong in doing that, sister.

1398
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is for him, all he hears is

1399
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: you don't believe in me. You telling me to give

1400
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: up on my dream and do this other thing that

1401
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: underlines that I'm failing, that I'm not doing what I'm doing.

1402
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: I'm beating myself up about all the time. I am

1403
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 4: waiting if you go to sleep. Every night, I'm looking

1404
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: at the ceiling and I'm trying to figure out what

1405
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to do right So what I would say

1406
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 4: is that number one, you gotta understand that he's in

1407
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 4: pain and he's hurting, because there's nothing more difficult for

1408
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: a man who could citizenslf the head of a household.

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01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: To not be providing in the way that he wants to.

1410
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it's not his responsibility. But your role is not.

1411
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: This is what I differ. Your role is not to

1412
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: say here's a great job. He can find that job.

1413
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 4: He got the same newspaper and praiglist and Google job,

1414
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 4: and that ain't I appreciate that effort.

1415
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 3: But that's not it in this y'all been together twenty

1416
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: one years. I just want you to be right there

1417
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: with him and ride with him. That's what I want.

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01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 4: I want you to say, Okay, this is the budget

1419
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: for the month, and we are, you know, five thousand

1420
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: dollars short. I got my two thousand dollars on it.

1421
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: I believe in you. You are my man, You're head

1422
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 4: of a household. I love you. You tell me what we're

1423
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 4: doing with the other three. You just tell me, and

1424
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't. You're trying to be helpful, but you're

1425
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: exacerbating and compounding his already awful feeling of insecurity and

1426
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 4: not providing by saying here you go.

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 3: Here go these jobs.

1428
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 4: And I know your intention was good. So I'm not

1429
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 4: attacking the system at all, but just from a man.

1430
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 4: If he's the type of that a lot of men are,

1431
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 4: he is already at his lowest point. And so what

1432
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: you say is this is this is where short this

1433
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: is what I'm like you tell me, But I believe

1434
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: in you.

1435
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: I believe in you. We're gonna get past this. The

1436
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: business is gonna turn around all of that. I believe

1437
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 3: in you.

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01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 4: If you decide to get another job, I'm back you

1439
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,439
Speaker 4: another job. If you can figure it out here, I'm

1440
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 4: backing you with that. I'm backing you period point. But

1441
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 4: I'm back and tell me what you need. Do you

1442
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 4: want me to go help? Do you want me to

1443
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: help look for job? And you don't like whatever? Like

1444
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 4: say that because when you say, when you lead a

1445
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 4: little job, listens around you email them because it's like this,

1446
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: a negro need to get to work. He and I

1447
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 4: don't even know that. Could be a nice white lady.

1448
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, but whatever it is, you are unintentionally

1449
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 4: reminding him of his shortcomings and failure and making him

1450
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: feel like you don't believe in him. So that's that's

1451
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 4: my opinion, maybe unpopular, but I would say just be

1452
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 4: there form that.

1453
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: It ain't your job to get him the new job.

1454
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 4: Your job is just be there, support your man and

1455
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 4: say listen, this is what we need.

1456
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1457
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: I'm not saying sit there and starve with your kids,

1458
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: but just say, hey, this is what we need. You

1459
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 4: tell me how you're gonna do it. You tell me

1460
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: how we're gonna get it. And I'm and I'm believing you.

1461
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 4: And I don't mean like, can what you're gonna do

1462
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 4: that that's what we sure. I don't mean that mean like, hey,

1463
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 4: I'm here with you, so this is the budget and

1464
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 4: this is what I got on it, and you just

1465
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: tell me how I can help.

1466
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: Can I help in any way with what you're trying

1467
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 3: to do. That's what I would say.

1468
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: I love, That's good. You just okay. I like that perspective.

1469
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: Black man. My whole life, Yes, yes, good at it.

1470
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: One day teach us and.

1471
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: Brothers need to be having these comings. We do to talk.

1472
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: Through these things and we can help each other.

1473
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 4: I see too much like vitriall amongst you know folks

1474
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: online you know what I'm saying, within the same community,

1475
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: within the same gender, within the same orientation, Like I

1476
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 4: just it's just too it's a lot of negativity, you

1477
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

1478
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: We in it together? Are we in it together? Like,

1479
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: let's talk here, you know, talk about it. Like I said,

1480
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 3: I'm not attacking that sister. She did it, you know,

1481
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: the way she wanted to.

1482
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 4: I'll just give you another pinion from a mass and

1483
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: an entrepreneur, you know, whose life hasn't always gone away

1484
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 4: I wanted it to go. Yeah, So I'm not attacking

1485
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 4: his sister at all.

1486
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 3: Like he needs you.

1487
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 4: He's only at where he's at cussing you. But now

1488
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 4: he needs something different. He doesn't need like this is

1489
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 4: a job that's hiring anyway you need right now.

1490
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 3: He didn't need you to support him and believe.

1491
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 4: In him, and then you allow him to tell you

1492
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 4: how he's gonna turn around that.

1493
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking notes myself. So the next thing we do

1494
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: is what I'm going through and what I'm growing through.

1495
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: And I'll start off right now, who am I going through?

1496
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: I am going through a I feel like this is

1497
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: a stretching phase for me in my life.

1498
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: This season I'm in.

1499
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: I feel like God is stretching my faith trying different

1500
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: things as far as business ventures that I don't know

1501
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: are going to succeed. So I'm really like stepping out

1502
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: on faith in different areas and growing through having control

1503
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: of everything because I'm such a control for I like

1504
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: to know what's gonna happen. Okay, this is the variable

1505
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 2: that I know for sure, and just being open to

1506
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: the possibilities of things that are.

1507
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: Unknown to me. So that's what I'm going.

1508
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: Wow, years, it's good. Yeah, the practice asked. Okay, all right.

1509
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: So I would say I'm going through a new phase

1510
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 4: in my life where now my kids are out of

1511
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: the house, and so it's a different dynamic for my

1512
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 4: wife and I and also a different relationship for myself

1513
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 4: with my kids because babies, yeah, but they're now all

1514
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 4: young adults, and so it means that we're redefining our relationships.

1515
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 4: We're recalibrating our relationships in a different way than we

1516
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 4: have before. So it is it's an amazing amount of

1517
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 4: freedom that my wife and I have, but we also

1518
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: get to know each other in different ways because as

1519
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 4: a parent, you are always constantly sacrificing for your kids.

1520
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 3: Now I don't have that excuse anymore. Now it's her

1521
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: and I. So we're getting to know each other in

1522
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: a different way.

1523
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 4: And I'm getting to know my kids and I have

1524
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: to accept them as young adults, and they also have

1525
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: to accept me as a father. That's not just like,

1526
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: you know, their primary caregiver. I am somebody that is

1527
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: you know.

1528
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: More of a of a of a friend, honestly, So

1529
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: that's that's different. So that's what I'm going through.

1530
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 4: What I'm growing through is my own career and the

1531
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 4: next phase of my career.

1532
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: As of the recording of this podcast.

1533
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 4: We are still in the middle of a striking and

1534
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 4: hopefully that would be you know, over by the time

1535
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: it comes out. But regardless, it's a different phase in

1536
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 4: my personal career, and I'm also looking to diversify myself,

1537
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 4: my focus, my ambitions, and my aims, and so I'm

1538
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 4: growing through that, right I have to.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been I've been very very fortunate.

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 4: I'm very blessed, you know, to strike hit everybody differently,

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 4: so I'm very fortunate in how I've been able to

1542
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 4: weather to strike.

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: But it also shows me, though.

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01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 4: That I need to be in a position where I

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01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 4: have a diverse array of things that I'm doing same yeah.

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01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what the business ventures are because I

1547
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 2: realize I can't put all my eggs in this acting basket. Yeah,

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: you know, you never know. I want things like this

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: to happen. I'm like, I'm good, Yeah, I have other

1550
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: things going on. This is not the end all be all.

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 3: What you're gonna sell on Instagram? Wat trainers, No.

1552
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: I need to word. I can't tell you.

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 4: I'll tell you it's basing suits, weaving wate trains.

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

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01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 4: I don't know the Instagram market as well as some people,

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 4: but in my exploit, that's what I say.

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01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: What you selling is hair. They still doing waist training still.

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 3: I feel like everybody got.

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01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: A swim line, everybody, but you know those.

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna do something different, Yes, something different. Yeah, I

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: feel like.

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 4: We should pitch Chrystopher businesses. Y'all call it and write

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 4: and say what should she be selling?

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Versified, you got something though, I feel.

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01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: Like whatever it is, I'm excited.

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: Candles prayer candles, but they smell like feet, so then

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01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 4: so that'll make you want to pray if you gotta

1568
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 4: get your prayer.

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: Jesus feet gonna keep burning.

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk about Jesus feet.

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, you gotta want to get them

1572
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 4: prayers about that with.

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: Her hair, dry her hair. You know, they send the bubble.

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01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 3: Uber for Dogs take people animals. See y'all laugh.

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01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't even like I'm.

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: Going to shock. You don't get no percentage because Uber

1577
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: for Dogs, you gotta get your dogs.

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: We take it to the park and somebody picks them up.

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01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's actually genius.

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01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I haven't thought it through because.

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: We already got this let the dog out.

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01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: We need to figure somebody to be there to get

1584
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I guess the driver.

1585
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 4: It could be like, now, there is a thing I

1586
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 4: have a friend has somebody who works for my company,

1587
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 4: and their dog gets picked up for grooming.

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: There is a doggy bus and they come and pick

1589
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 3: up your dog.

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: You are kidding me, I promise you.

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 4: And it's a bus with all these dogs in it

1592
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 4: the way it's been described to me, and takes them

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: to the groom and then drops them back off.

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01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: That's pretty not a dog that's smart though, Because we

1595
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: don't have time, you know, anything that helps people with

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01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: their time.

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01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: That's the idea, Chris, That's all I got. I've given

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: them to you.

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01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 4: You are think about the feet camera see a lot

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 4: of people you know like everything.

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 3: You know what those are my feet?

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: I got?

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so awesome anytime.

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01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me absolutely.

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: All right.

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01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: So another thing we do is keep it blank, sweetie.

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 2: And for this episode, I'm gonna say, Okay, we talk

1608
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: about so.

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01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: Much, keep it faithful, sweetie. No, No, Like what I'm

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01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: going through now is definitely stretching our face. So keep

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01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: it faithful, sweet is what I would saying.

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: I like that.

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 4: So my first answer to keep it crushing probably is

1614
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 4: not the same energy that you did so like to see.

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01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 3: I feel like yours is more inspirational. So I'm gonna

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: go you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna say, keep

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01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 3: it consistent, sweetie. That's what I'm gonna say. A lot

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01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: of us have challenge with consistency. Right.

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 4: It's not about just being good in some areas and

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01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 4: not in others. It's not about us being following through

1621
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 4: one time. We gotta follow through every time. Keep it consistent,

1622
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying. So as you're keeping it

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 4: positive as you're keeping it prayerful, faithful, faithful.

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01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 3: Also keep it consistent. Try to stay consistent. That is

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01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: well for you.

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that's good. Guys. Thank you

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: so much for tuning into this episode of Keep It Positive. Sweetie.

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01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: If you want to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter,

1629
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: write into keep It Positive Sweete at gmail dot com

1630
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: and that's Sweetie with an Ie. You can follow me

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 2: on Instagram and all the platforms at l u V

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01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: Chris Orne.

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01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: We'll tell them where the people can find.

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 4: You, usually on the corner of no we'll powerpacker at

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: Will Powerpacker on all the platforms.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you anytime on this fun