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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into another episode of the best

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Speaker 1: podcast available the week of June. The first week in June, Gribble,

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Speaker 1: we got to see players on the football field, not

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Speaker 1: the rookies. We got to see over fifty players on

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Speaker 1: the field today yesterday, you know what I mean. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: they were on the field. They're gonna be back on

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Speaker 1: a nice sight despite the little weather that we had. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I you know, I felt like an amateur out there.

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Speaker 1: I was checking my roster NonStop for for who was

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Speaker 1: wearing what number. There's a lot of new faces on

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Speaker 1: this defense and that was to be as expected with

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Speaker 1: the amount of free agency movement Andrew Burying company did

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Speaker 1: with work on this defense, plus all those rookies that

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Speaker 1: we expect to contribute out there. So it was it

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Speaker 1: was a good sight to see. Good to see Myles, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: Denzel Award and company out there and really kind of

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Speaker 1: starting to shape this new look identity to a bronze defense.

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Speaker 1: We expect to be a lot better well, and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at my sheet to see who who was here

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Speaker 1: and who wasn't. I know, Kevin Stefanski says, it's not

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Speaker 1: about who's here and who's not. We're taking care of

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Speaker 1: the people that are here. And then there's a number

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Speaker 1: of players that are also participating virtually through their choice.

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Speaker 1: It is an optional time of year for football players. Uh,

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Speaker 1: not for the coaching staffs and definitely not for us.

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Speaker 1: But uh, in addition to Denzel Ward and Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Denzel yet Greedy Williams, Newsome Newsom playing a

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Speaker 1: It was cool to see those three guys on the field.

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Speaker 1: And then, you know, from a defensive line standpoints, Miles

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Speaker 1: and how big those guys are. Well, you know, you

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Speaker 1: get Malik Jackson, who we're going to talk to you

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Speaker 1: the field, and all of a sudden, that defensive tackle room,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys. There's a lot of enormous guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and let's be I mean the defensive tackles these past

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Speaker 1: So I mean Sheldon Richardson, Larry Ogen Joby did did

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Speaker 1: really is a new identity for this group. And I

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Speaker 1: think we saw it right away out there today. I mean,

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Speaker 1: seemed like these guys realize and when we hear from

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, there's no easy answer to

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Speaker 1: So they've got to They've got a high bar to

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Speaker 1: it in his meeting with the media on on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: And that's what it comes down to. And there's there's

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you've gotta you gotta understand the system.

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Speaker 1: of Dimetric felt in Uh, most of the time that

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Speaker 1: when you're on an offense that's is full of playmakers

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Speaker 1: Saw Nick Harris, Uh, tight ends with Carlson in the building. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But again to me today, especially just because of the

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Speaker 1: newest defensive tackles. Malik Jackson joins us here on the

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Speaker 1: bp A. Malik, appreciate a few minutes at your time.

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Speaker 1: Great to see on the football field here. Welcome to Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: What's it been like for you, especially last year from COVID.

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Speaker 1: COVID still going, but guys back in the building and

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Speaker 1: of all, thanks for having me Hunter and COVID has

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Speaker 1: been rough, you know, um, but I have to say

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Speaker 1: it's been nice to get back with the guys in

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Speaker 1: But you know you've missed the guys you missed to

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but Malik, for for you personally, how much

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Speaker 1: do these couple of weeks make a difference when you

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Speaker 1: it means everything. You know. It's one of those things

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Speaker 1: much needing. What has Kevin Stefanski been like your experiences

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Speaker 1: Good room. What is the weight room like with Tommy

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Speaker 1: thing I think is to come in with humility. You know,

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Speaker 1: But it's also you have to upstand this. This room

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Speaker 1: the big advice, Lille. Did you have to learn that

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Speaker 1: And then it's about after that you come back and

429
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 1: you try to reevaluate what was hurting during the season, um,

430
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 1: and what you need to get better as far as football.

431
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 1: So it's always just kind of re a better way

432
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 1: than rethinking, and you know, understanding that the order you get,

433
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 1: the more you need to kind of really take care

434
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,160
Speaker 1: of yourself and uh. And so it's just just a job.

435
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 1: It's a job. Talking with Malik Jackson, do you still

436
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: run under a five second at the combine? My friend,

437
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 1: I blew my quad. I blew my quad at the

438
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: thirty two. So we have to make sure we say that.

439
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: Um nah nah, I think I think you know what

440
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: you what you get in the league, man, the forties

441
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 1: don't matter, you know what I mean, you know, mad

442
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 1: I can still catch so I still hop somebody if

443
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: I need today, I can still get up, still get up,

444
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 1: like my like my bell are I have bell are,

445
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: so I consider myself a bell are. You know, got

446
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: a nice four or fifty four and the engine, So

447
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,439
Speaker 1: you know that's me. And you meant you mentioned this

448
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 1: earlier in our interview, just about the the amount of

449
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: family time you've been able to have during this last

450
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, how much does that recenter

451
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: you as as a football player, and how much does

452
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: that motivate you out there? Uh, it's tremendous. I'm gonna

453
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: be honest with you. That was one of the things

454
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: that I was really fighting with. You know, once you

455
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: get older, you have kids, you start to realize kind

456
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: of what's important, you know, and football is very important

457
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: to me, but also raising my daughter and having to

458
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: be like a sixty forty relationship or football to sixty percent,

459
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 1: it was really bothering me. So this COVID has really,

460
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 1: uh allowed me to uh really kind of like not

461
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: find myself and trying to give me another chance at

462
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 1: this this football because like I said, it's not taking

463
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: so much of my time. And where I feel like

464
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm neglecting my daughter. So, um, this this Clovid has

465
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: really been a true blessing to me to really be

466
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: able to feel like I'm I'm able to do both

467
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: and not just committing to one thing and being selfish.

468
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: So it's been good to me. How old is your daughter?

469
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: She's five? Okay, well it's back going on fifteen five,

470
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: going on Fifteam's not get any easier. I have a

471
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: seventeen and one, trust me, it does not get any easier.

472
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: What is she into? She's in the drawing streng designing, uh, playing,

473
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: just just being a kid, you know, just just everything

474
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get her and the stuff. It's it's

475
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: fun because they say that the five year olds, you know,

476
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: when they're so impressionable. So we got a telescope, you know,

477
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 1: we did a little um banjo, you know, because she

478
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: can go to school, so just trying to just introduce

479
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: her things and and just you know, yeah, so yeah,

480
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: that's it. It's gonna be exciting. Now she's probably about

481
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: the age that she can really know what you're doing

482
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: out there, right, Yeah, exactly. Now she knows what's going on,

483
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, she's she still probably won't watch the game,

484
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: even if it's Monday night. She'll turn some cartoons on.

485
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,239
Speaker 1: But it's still nice when she comes to the game

486
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: she can say that daddy, and you know, when I

487
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: was tired, she'll be able to say, daddy, not lying.

488
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: He did play football. He just doesn't sit around. So

489
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: it's nice to have somebody that can vouce for me

490
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: when I when I retired that I actually did something.

491
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: Talking with Malie Jackson, New Brown's defensive tackle. All right,

492
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: I know that you have a daughter. You also have

493
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: a twin brother. He plays defensive end in the CFL,

494
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: if I'm correct, Yeah, who got who got the better

495
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: of who? Growing up? Uh? They say he's the oldest

496
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: because he came out first, But I feel like a

497
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: new study came out that said the second twin born

498
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: is the one that's the oldest. So but now he

499
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: he got me. You know he was he was just

500
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: a little more aggressive, you know, just the laid back

501
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: pick back. You know, hey, you got it man. You know,

502
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: so that was me growing up. But you know, once

503
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: I started filling in, you know, the table's terms. So

504
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I would say, if you ask me, Malika, guy, you

505
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: you've got a previous relationship on this team is Joe Woods.

506
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: What what about you? Guys connected really well and what

507
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: excites you about playing under him now as with him

508
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: as a coordinator. Well, yeah, that's one of the really

509
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: reasons why. That's my reading, that's one of the real

510
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: reasons why I came here was because of co was Um.

511
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: I had a great relationship with him. We were together

512
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: in Denver, bore. He was a UM cornerbacks coach UM.

513
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I found out he was a decordated here,

514
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: it was it was a no brainer. I would able

515
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: to call him, we would ever have a real conversation

516
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: about where I'm gonna be at, what I'm gonna do,

517
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: how looked at um and and and and so being

518
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: able to have him there and have a true conversation,

519
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: not like, hey, what's up, coach man? You know you

520
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: want me your team? Where do you see me? Oh?

521
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: Manke whatever you want to do? Did that? That wasn't him.

522
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: He gave me true, concise, um, real um things that

523
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: I can I can kind of put my hat on

524
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, that's what I'm gonna be and I

525
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with that. So we have a very nobs

526
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: all straight fun. I would I would say father's son

527
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: because he's older, you know what I mean, But like

528
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: because we're not brothers, so like a father's son relationship,

529
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just very much

530
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: mutual respect, man. And I'm happy he got this opportunity,

531
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: and I hope I'm coming here and make him make

532
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: him look better on that field, you know. So yeah,

533
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: And I know you guys aren't breaking down film of

534
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes yet or anything like that. But how much

535
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency maybe is there with all

536
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: these new guys to be on the same page defensively

537
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: as soon as possible when you guys get to start

538
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: playing games that matter. I mean, I think I would

539
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: be lying if I said that isn't then because we

540
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: took so much time out of O T A S

541
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: to come back, you know. Um. But I don't think

542
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: it's like a sense of like true urgency. I think

543
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: right now it's just a sense of Okay, hey we

544
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: got you guys here. That's you guys wanted to be pros.

545
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: You know, you guys take your time by yourself. You

546
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: said you want to be pros. Pool your pros now

547
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: we're here. Now let's get to it. You know what

548
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So um, so yeah, I don't think it's

549
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: an urgency. I just think it's a it's a respect

550
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: thing that we asked for time to stay back because

551
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: of COVID. Now he's like, okay, now you need to

552
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: be be pros and tell me what you've learned while

553
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: you been away. So yeah, mo league, before we let

554
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: you go, what's the biggest key because you've played on

555
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: you've won a Super Bowl, what's the biggest key to

556
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: a defense coming together and Jelly, just just being on

557
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: the same page. Um. And it sounds, you know, simple,

558
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: but it's it's other than the sounds, but just just

559
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: being on the same page. And I think just just

560
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: understanding that. Um as a team, like we have to

561
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: if we're all right, we're all right, and we're all

562
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: wrong the one the one is right, we're all right.

563
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: If one is wrong, we're all wrong. There's no there's

564
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: no good player on on a bad team. You know.

565
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: We have to make sure that we all want to

566
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: be great. We all want super Bowls, we all want

567
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, we all want all the best accolades. But

568
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: it comes to playing together, and I think we're doing that.

569
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: We're learning that. Um, so just staying together and just executing,

570
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, defense with championships and once we know that

571
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: and understand that, realize that, um we'll be all We'll

572
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: be all right, Malik, appreciate your time, fantastic. We wish

573
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: you all the best, continued success. Enjoy that time with

574
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: that five year old because before you know what, she

575
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: will be sixteen. Yeah, gripples got two girls. I have

576
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: two girls. It totally understand. Man. They grow, they grow

577
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: very quickly. So continue success. All the best to you

578
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: and we look forward to seeing you in a round

579
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: uniform here and training camp, first mini camp and then

580
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: obviously the big deal comes up at the end of July.

581
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: I wish you all the best. I appreciate you. Thank

582
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: you guys for the platforms. Have a good day, Gribbs.

583
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about a lot of the guys

584
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: in that defensive tackle room, and it's easy to overlook

585
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: a guy like Mallie Jackson, and people should not be

586
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: overlooking him and what he can bring to this table

587
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: so impressive. A great work ethic has had success in

588
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: most places. He's been more importantly the guy doesn't miss games,

589
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: and that's pretty important obviously for Kevin Stefanski in company. Yeah,

590
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, Malie Jackson is an interesting case, an interesting

591
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: guy in the league and someone who if you want

592
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: to look at evidence of someone who's really when you

593
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: talk about rookies going into the right situation and figuring

594
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: out their path to the NFL, Mallie Jackson has found

595
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: found himself in a fantastic situation in Denver as a

596
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. You know, not not many fifth round

597
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: picks go on to sign contracts the way that Mallie

598
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: Jackson is able to and jack Xonville and Philadelphia and

599
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: continuing to play in the league now with the Browns.

600
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: Is one of the oldest players on this team. But

601
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: you know, he joined a defensive line that was just

602
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: loaded with talent and kind of veterans who kind of

603
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: showed him the way through the league, and I think

604
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: it elevated his competition level and kind of woke him

605
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: up to be like right away he had to really

606
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: bring it to even get on the field in Denver,

607
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: and then he really after a couple of years, emerged

608
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: as one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL

609
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: and I think that, Uh. And then he goes into

610
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: a great situation in Jacksonville with Claias Campbell. They make

611
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: up a defense that was almost good enough to get

612
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl with Blake Burrows at quarterback for

613
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and not much offense there. I think it's it's

614
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: he's someone who knows what a good situation looks like.

615
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's a redemptive, redemptive quality of this

616
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: Brown's team, where he saw what the Browns are doing

617
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: and liked what they were seeing. And now he is

618
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: trying to provide that situation for some of these younger

619
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: guys on the defensive line. From that, that's got a

620
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: lot of competition, and I think Malik understands he's in

621
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: that competition too. He he's not guaranteed anything either, and

622
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: I think he knows he has to mix the mentorship

623
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: with competing for for a spot. Uh in that rotation. Well,

624
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: he is the second oldest player on this football team. Yeah,

625
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, his his experience, and I think, a guy,

626
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: it's really hard it just to interrupt you. It's really

627
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: hard for me to rationalize. Guys I covered in college

628
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: are now the oldest players on a football team in

629
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's it's it's heartbreaking. So this is reached it. Yeah,

630
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean this is someone I covered as a college

631
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: athlete and now he's an aged vetteran and a bel

632
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: veteran who's the oldest player, one of the oldest players

633
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: in the Bronze roster. Tough to swallow. I mean, you

634
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: mentioned it, and he talked about it. You know, the

635
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: experience and the mentors he still has around the league

636
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: and guys that have played at the elite level and

637
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of success at the elite level and

638
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: what he's able to learn from them and hopefully take

639
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: that knowledge and pass it on to some of these

640
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: younger guys. But um, it's another guy on this defense

641
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: and there are a few of them that are on

642
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: prove it type contracts, and you're gonna get everybody's best effort,

643
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: especially going into training camp, and you know, one, once

644
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: you clear that hurdle, then it's keeping that roster spot.

645
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: So I mean, at the end of the day, you

646
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys on that defensive side of

647
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: the football with a lot to prove here in Yeah,

648
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: and I think Malik is is someone who we didn't

649
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: talk to him about it too much, But I think

650
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: he wants to show he's he's even better than what

651
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: he was able to show in Philadelphia. I think that's that.

652
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I think it's someone who's clearly more capable of maybe

653
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: not producing the big time sack members, but being a

654
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: guy that is on the field a lot for you

655
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: making plays. And I think he believes he hasn't and

656
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: the guy you want to see him out there, he's

657
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: in great shape. Uh, one of the one of the

658
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: leaner defensive tackles on this team. But he's he's in

659
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: quality shape, and I think he knows how to take

660
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: care of his body and he'll be ready to go

661
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: once late Jill I gets here. More importantly, this is

662
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: how far this football team has come. He's part of

663
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: a long list of guys that have joined this football

664
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: team because they see this football team as a super

665
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. And it's pretty cool to hear that every

666
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: time that someone says that, like, I came here to

667
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: win because I thought that this one of the best

668
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: chances to go all the way. Yeah, and and we've

669
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: talked about it before. I mean, not many teams in

670
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: this position had the resources that the Browns did. This offseason,

671
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: so I think you maybe heard that even more than

672
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: you would in a normal off season, because most teams

673
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: that are on the brink of Super Bowl contention, they're

674
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: in the position where they're cutting salary and cutting players

675
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: and trying to to get under the cap. The Browns

676
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: were in the opposite position, so they were able to

677
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: add a number of these players. And it's not like

678
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: it's the phony like load up on big name free

679
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: agents and and blow out your cap. I mean, these

680
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: were targeted signings that really supplemented a defense that needed

681
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: some more depth and needed and honestly, in the Leak's case,

682
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: I think with all the young players, you need a

683
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: little bit more experience on that defense too, and he

684
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: brings some some vetteran savvy to an otherwise pretty young defense. Yeah.

685
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: All right, A big takeaway from Wednesday's availability, Miles Garrett

686
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: will not be playing basketball anytime soon. According to Kevin Stefanski,

687
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: that's good news to whoever is playing pick up basketball

688
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: near Miles Garrett. I would say, I mean that all

689
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, whoever is running in the same games

690
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: as he is. There there points per game is going

691
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: up a little bit more and their their defense is

692
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: getting a littless stressful. Would I would want no part

693
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: of Miles on the basketball court. No, that guy should

694
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: have gotten out of the way. No, no one's calling

695
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: a charge and pick up, and no one's You're not

696
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: being a hero out there. No, you you were part

697
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: of a lot of views and a lot of eyeballs

698
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: on social media. That's essentially how that how that has

699
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: gone down? Um any other big takeaways from Kevin Stefanski

700
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: and what he had to tell the media on Wednesday, Well, listen,

701
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any surprise that you know, full

702
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: respect from Kevin Stefanski with the players and their situation

703
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: with reminding everyone over and over and these are voluntary workouts,

704
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: and I think it helps that, you know, Stefanski has

705
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: a year under his belt of getting a team to

706
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs and winning in the playoffs without having any

707
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: on field work in the spring. So it's almost like

708
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: this is his first spring as an NFL head coach

709
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: with actual practice on the field. This has got to

710
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: be almost like a bonus to him to have these

711
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: guys on the field after what he went through last year.

712
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: So I think they I don't think anything has caught

713
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: them by surprise, and I think that they've kind of

714
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: adapted and gone with what they're what they're getting on

715
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: a daily basis year UH, and I think that they'll

716
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: be ready to go. And I think, as he reaffirmed

717
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: that they're having the mandatory mini teams, so you get

718
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: those three days in UH and then you're ready to

719
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: go and you're already ahead of where you were last year.

720
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: So I think as long as this group is ready

721
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: to go for training camp. But you don't see much

722
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: stressing him out about about UH voluntary workouts and knowing that,

723
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: especially with what he's seeing in the virtual meetings, and

724
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like a coach that's worried about where

725
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: he team will be in late July. Well, and you

726
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: just touched on it. The big takeaway there will be

727
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: a mandatory mini camp in two weeks. You know, we'll

728
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: have another O t A session next week, we'll have

729
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: availability again next Wednesday, and then you know, you have

730
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: three days where it's it's mandatory mini camp and you

731
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: gotta be here and it's the final tune up before

732
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: we get to training camp at the end of July.

733
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: And that's you know that that'll be a big few

734
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: days for this Cleveland Browns coaching staff in terms of

735
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: getting guys final preparations. If you need to install some

736
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: things or you know, put some things in place of

737
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: guys know what they need to work on over the

738
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: over the six weeks after that. I mean, that's where

739
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: things get big. And this is like what Joe Thomas

740
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: used to always talk about when you kept changing coordinators

741
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: and coaches and things like that, it was like you

742
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: kept repeating algebra over and over again. Now you get

743
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: to go from algebra one to algebra two. Uh. And

744
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: then I think that's the especially on the offensive side

745
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: of the ball, was so much kind duty, so much

746
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: familiarity that this is just like a completely different ball

747
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: game for this offense where they can work on what

748
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: they did well and make it better and work on

749
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: some new things that they couldn't install last year and

750
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: and kind of add it as a new wrinkle to

751
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: this offense. And so I think we saw a lot

752
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: of growing pains in training camp last year on that

753
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. And I think that it's

754
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: not going to be perfect when we get to July,

755
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: but it's just gonna be a different looking group out

756
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: there because the they'll they'll be so much more comfortable

757
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: with each other on the field. Yeah, and again speaking

758
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: of the end of July, you know, it looks like

759
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: that last week in July will be when everybody shows up,

760
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and not just here, but it sounds like it'll be

761
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: that way around the league. And you know, a couple

762
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: of teams obviously having to go early because of Hall

763
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: of Fame game and the Thursday night game uh to

764
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: kick off the season, Tampa Bay and Dallas. But everybody else,

765
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: it appears, is going to show up for training camp

766
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: around the same time. And you know there's a few

767
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: tweaks and what but um, the cutdown days are spaced

768
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: out a little bit more and more. Maybe I want

769
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: to say the benefit for us because there's their cutdown

770
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: days is a rough day around the National Football League.

771
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: It's not something that's celebrated, but you know that day

772
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: is gonna come a few days earlier. It looks like

773
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: this year than in past years. Yeah, you've got about

774
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: like eleven days with your fifty three man roster before

775
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: you take the field because it's gonna be on the

776
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Tuesday of the August thirty one, and the Browns don't

777
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: hit the field till what September twelve, So I mean

778
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a decent chunk of time, So

779
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to get a couple of practices in. Also,

780
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: you almost maybe I'm wondering how different teams will treat it,

781
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: but your labor Day weekend is kind of like a

782
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: bye week during training camp, but if you want to

783
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: call it that, like your first bye week, um so,

784
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: and then you're all ready to go back in the

785
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: building on that that Monday or Tuesday, and it's on

786
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: to week one. And I think that this set up

787
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: in a way to me, at least we haven't gone

788
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: through it. So maybe I'm speaking a turn here, but

789
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: this this shapes up in a way where it probably

790
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: should have always been this way. But I guess the

791
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: change in the seventeen game schedule, uh and taking away

792
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: a preseason game that it opens things up a little

793
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: bit to a schedule that to me just makes a

794
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: lot more sense with with your cadence, because it's almost

795
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: like a that that fourth preseason game on that Thursday

796
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: or a Wednesday was just like a rush job. You

797
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: get there and you beyond like four or five days rest.

798
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes you barely practice before it, and then you put

799
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: out a lot of guys out there who you know

800
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: aren't going to be with the team a couple of

801
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: days later. So it's I'm glad that it almost slows

802
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: down the preseason a little bit, uh and and kind

803
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: of has more of a rhythm to it. And well

804
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: we'll see how that benefits the team going into into

805
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: the season open. Yeah, I think it's definitely something to watch.

806
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: I gotta go and look, I feel like we're going

807
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: to be the last preseason game of the preseason slate

808
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: in the National fulm. I believe, so with that Sunday

809
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: night game against Atlanta. I mean, we'll get back early

810
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: early Monday morning, and you know, I would think things

811
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: will probably come fast and furious from from a cutdown

812
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: standpoint at that time. Yeah, it's it's just gonna be

813
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: a situation where I'm more intrigued, honestly about how our

814
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: team is going to approach that third preseason game. Is

815
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: it going to be addresser ursel or is it going

816
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: to be more like that fourth preseason game where it's

817
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: mostly players that are looking to looking to find work elsewhere.

818
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the that's the that that'll be. I

819
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: wonder if it's a coach by coach basis or does

820
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: the second preseason game become the showcase game and a

821
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: lot to see. Yeah, all right, that's gonna wrap up

822
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: this week's edition of the Best Podcast Available. We're back

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00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: with you next week h O t A availability on Wednesday.

824
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,920
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Speaker 1: our final episode of the off season, the week of

826
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Mandatory Mini Camp. So appreciate and Gribble's help and guidance

827
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: and assistance as always. Uh, Anthony Pocco, well done, my friends.

828
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Speaker 1: Good job by A B spinning the dials behind the scenes. Uh.

829
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: Formerly Jackson doing an outstanding job joining us and also

830
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Speaker 1: on the field. Happy to have him in the building

831
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Speaker 1: and happy to have him on this football team. Make

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