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The main event a 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: heavyweight back between Garret Lewis coming in at about a 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: plus two to fifty underdog and gets Talis and to 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: share a minus three hundred tight is minus one thousand 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: and inside the distance the over under one and a 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: half rounds, sitting at about plus one eighty five to 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: the over minus twenty five to the under to Shera 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: getting a very quick main event spot here just two 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: UFC bouts, including one on the Tender Series. He's never 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: been passed the four minute mark in his professional career, 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: just eight career fights Lewis. This is his thirteenth main 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: event or five round fight in the UFC. This is 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: thirtieth career UFC bout. He has fifteen career knockouts in 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: the UFC, which is a record. Again to Shia has 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: eight career fight so the experience differential is substantial. To 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Shera is the bigger athlete, the faster man, though four 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: inches taller, foreign treach advantage, and also about fourteen and 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: a half years younger, and as we regularly cite on 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: this show, when there is that substantial of an age 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: gap between MMA opponents, the younger fighter is typically undervalued. 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: There's at least a decade between UFC opponents, the younger 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: fighter wins about twelve percent more than the markets. Facts 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: there are close to I think there's about ninety nine 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: fights where there's a fourteen year age gap between opponents 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: and the younger fighter is seventy seven and twenty two. 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: So winning at about a seventy seven percent clip com 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: bear to average OVS of minus one point forty when 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: there's at least a fourteen year age gap. When it's 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: closer to ten years, it's closer to a seventy percent clip. 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: But ultimately, the way I'm betting this fight is for 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: to share, just to start out a little bit more 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: measured early on against such a powerful knockout artist. The 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: over half a round combined with the SHIA is minus 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: one sixteen on the same game parlay, which I think 45 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: is pretty good value. But you could combine that with 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: the under four and a half rounds as well and 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: ultimately get lost money on that ticket. So the same 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: game parlay to share a over half a round and 49 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: the under four and a half rounds can't finish fight 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: and for two and a half minutes, but have to 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: finish the fight before the final two and a half minutes, 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and ultimately I do think he gets Lewis and the 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: latter half of round one for the early part of 54 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: round two. How I think he does it in the 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: clinch with knees to the body. Lewis typically pretty durable 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: to the head, but the knee or any strikes to 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the body, any strikes to the legs do tend to 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: wear on him attritionally and wear him down fairly quickly. 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: So obviously hunter Chan says he does against any opponent. 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I just do think given the spot, given the age gap, 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: given the athleticism differential between these two to share A 62 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: is likely to finish him. I think even on the 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: money line to share A, I would harlay him, probably 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: up to minus three hundred. That's said, you know, a 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: guy who's never been out of round one looks like 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: he should be able to sustain it given athleticism. But 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: Billy any thoughts on live betting Derrick Lewis after round 68 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: one if he's able to withstand some damage just because 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: of the experience upside. I know he's not a guy 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: who's likely to last super long fight, but he didn't 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: pull off a comfort behind knockout in his last win. 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: You think there's a chance he could do that again 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: in this fight against the guy who's both relatively inexperience 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: but also has never been out of the first round. 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that would make some sense to me. 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Also famously had the like last second knockout of was 77 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: that Volkov or Pavlovitch? Yep, yeah, Volcoff. So you know, 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: like it's in the wheelhouse. He doesn't do a lot right, 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: Like he throws single heavy shots, and you can kind 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: of do that for a long time, even if you're tired. 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: You can sell throw your arm once, you know, not 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: a very like cardio intensive style. So a guy who's 83 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: going to fade as much as we normally think of 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: with power punchers. That makes some sense to me. I'm 85 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: actually taking a little bit of a sprinkle at Derek 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: Lewis's money line, though it's a huge step up for 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: talis In tech Shara. His best opponent before getting to 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: the UFC was two and one. The guy he fought 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: on the Contender series was a former welterweight who hadn't 90 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: fought in like four years and then was fighting heavyweight. 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: So like clearly just fed to tech Shara and then 92 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: he'd beat Justin Tafa in his UFC debut. We have 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: no idea if he actually looks athletic or good against 94 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: anyone competent now that there's a ton of great heavyweight 95 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: MMA fighters around to prove that against. But Derek Lewis 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: just a big step up. Interesting stat I heard from 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: a former colleague of ours, Dan Tom Lewis is three 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: to zero against fighters six seven or taller, which is 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: probably pretty noisy, but basically he can get up there, 100 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: he can reach with that big overhand, right. I think 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: the way he punches and the way he kind of 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 3: loops actually does lend to him landing better against taller 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: fighters than when he has to throw in a straight 104 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: line or downed opponents. So I don't think it's totally 105 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: just varianced. There's obviously a little bit of, you know, 106 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: just happenstance in that stat the other bat and I 107 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: like this one considerably more than my Lewis sprinkle. Is 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: the fight to start a round two at plus one 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: ten one hundred percent agree with you, Teshera should come 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: out fairly cautiously here, stay at range, just kind of 111 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: look to pick him apart and build some cage time, 112 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: right Like, you're already in the main event. You don't 113 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: want to find yourself in a situation where you're fighting 114 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: for a title with like eight total minutes of UFC experience. 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: That hasn't gone well when it's happened with guys we've seen, 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: like Sergey Pavlovitch, very limited cage experience did not go 117 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: well against upper level oppositions. So if I'm in his camp, 118 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling him, like, hey, take your time, build some experience, 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: you know, get a feel for what you're doing. Play 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: it safe. Not that I think Derek Lewis is gonna 121 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: play it safe. Or has even the ability to do 122 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: so if he wanted to. But if take Share is 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: controlling the range, he's got that height and reached I 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: think you know it plus money for a fight to 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: even start round two, that's a fun one. Last little 126 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: note on Derek Lewis, I said in my luck ratings 127 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 3: this week, we have no idea if he's even like 128 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: been training before a fight at any moment, Like sometimes 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: he just shows up and doesn't really care. We're recording 130 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: a little bit later and the fight's on the East Coast, 131 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: so we already saw Wayns. He looked pretty good. He 132 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: looked like he's at least been exercising. I can't say 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: for sure that he's you know, putting in tons of 134 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: rounds on the match or whatever, but he's not. He's 135 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: gone for a jog. He might be hit, lifted some 136 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: weights and hit a bag. So that's also a slight, 137 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: slight positive for Derek Lewis. But again we never really know. 138 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: I think Lewis's best chance is actually for him to 139 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: start see regress it particularly to Share is going to 140 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: start a little bit conservatively. We often see Lewis when 141 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: he's backing up get picked park, get beaten up a 142 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: little bit. That's when he's taking the issuational damage in 143 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: these main events. You know, when he's fighting guys I 144 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: think back to daukas fight. When he's fighting guys who 145 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: are a little bit less experience in him, will he 146 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: can bum rush and just scare the rabbat is like, 147 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy has the most knockouts in 148 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: UFC history and he's running at me. Why is he 149 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: running at me? And I think that would just scare 150 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: absolutely any of these guys, but especially the guy's with 151 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: less experience, you know, who have under ten professional fights. 152 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: You put him in there against this prolific knockout artist 153 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: and he started rushing them. I think it can cause 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: some panic. So if to share is a little bit 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: more conservative in this fight Lewis starts aggressively, he might 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: be able to get in there and potentially hurt him. 157 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: Just looking back to share his past fight, he's very 158 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: much willing to take one in order to give one. 159 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Derek Lewis is not the kind of guy that you 160 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: do that against the talking so very aggressive, pressure oriented fighter. 161 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: When he amplifies the pressure, that is going to be 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the main question in this fight, because I don't think 163 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: he's going to be as wrested from the opening bell 164 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: as he would be, but that actually may be to 165 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: his detriment. Derek Lewis could be the aggressor from there, 166 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: potentially causing problems. That said, you know, I'm very impressed 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: by we haven't seen him against this level of competition, 168 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: but just watching him move around the cage, I think 169 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: to share a moves very well. I think he's a 170 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: very good athlete with a ton of potential. Whether he 171 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: can sustain that movement that let us in that quickness 172 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: into the second or fourth rounds, we have absolutely no idea. 173 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, people in the training room with him really do. 174 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: But he does seem to have the tools to be 175 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: a potential player in this division. It's just a matter 176 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: of getting more experience and improving it inside of the cage. 177 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Let's move on to our favorite underdogs on this card, 178 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: because there's a few that we've really got circled that 179 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: we're particularly interested in. I'm sorry, We're gonna move on 180 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: to a fight of the night for this weekend. Another 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: big age gap between Steven Wander, Roy Thompson and Gabriel 182 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: Bon team about another fourteen year difference in age between 183 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: these two fighters Don minus four to sixty on the 184 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: money line, wonder Boy about plus three fifty. This fight, though, 185 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: is relatively normal to go to a decision about plus 186 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: one thirty GTD minus one to eighty NZIPD, which roughly 187 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: lines up with the welterweight divisional average. We're both looking 188 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: at bon Fime to potentially win this fight early, though 189 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: against a much older opponent. He is typically a fast 190 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: starter and the party attentiveate the longer the fight goes 191 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: really powerful early on, but also able to transition from 192 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: hurting his opponents into growing on submission attempts from those 193 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: those wabbles, those knockdowns completely thereafter. So I do think 194 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: the prices on bon Theme to win by submission may 195 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: be a little bit short, because he does tend to 196 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: go from hurting opponents to trying to submit them relatively quickly. 197 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: I actually think there may be some value on his 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: knockout prop here, but we both like Bonfime to win 199 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: in rounds one or two at plus one twenty five. 200 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I think you could take a round one stab as 201 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: well well at plus two to fifty, and then after 202 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: round one if he's not able to put Thompson away. 203 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: I would be interested in betting wonder Boy live after 204 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: round one, primarily because even in his fight against Jaquem Buckley, 205 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: WonderBoy is winning minutes in that matchup, and if he's 206 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: not going to get grappled, or if bon Fema is 207 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: not going to have success grappling and this fight does 208 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: extend plays out on the beat, I think wonder Boy 209 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: remains a tricky stylistic matchup for any fighter. He goes 210 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: against three inch reach advantage, that very awkward, blated style. 211 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: But Jon Team is able to grapple, he should be 212 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: able to cover his price tag here. So you're an 213 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: agreement von Fiema round one or round two of plus 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: one twenty five, and do you have any interesting live 215 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: betting wonder Boy after round one he's still there? 216 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, I think I'd probably wait till I want 217 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: to see how the grappling looks. I'm just really concerned. 218 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: Thompson has been taken down in five straight fights. He's 219 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: one in four in those fights. He really should be 220 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: zero to five, but Kevin Holland kept taking him down 221 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: and then just letting him up because they miss to 222 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: not take each other down or whatever, like because he 223 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: just did Kevin Holland stuff. That's the only fight that 224 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: Thompson has won since twenty twenty, so almost five years 225 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: at this point. Not a great sign, especially since he's 226 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: been finished in the last two and is forty two 227 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: years old. So I'm not I'm not gonna go out 228 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: of my way to make sure I get a live 229 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: bet in on Steven Thompson if it looks like he's 230 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: defending some takedowns or getting back up after one or 231 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: two and we get a big price. I kind of 232 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: need both those things to happen because I want to 233 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: see those takedowns where on bomb theme right, like BOMBFIM 234 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: spend a bunch of energy, but not get a lot 235 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: out of them, and then I have to keep fighting. 236 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: That's the scenario I think where he could take over. 237 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: But you know, Bombfeme won a decision against and LUSA 238 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: looked pretty good. His cardio looked better in that fight. 239 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: I think he's improved and made himself a little bit 240 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: more patient and a little bit more I just paced 241 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: himself a little bit better since his early UFC run. 242 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: He came in as an undefeated fighter who had finished 243 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: like pretty much everyone he had ever fought. Of course, 244 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: you're gonna come out guns blazing. Took that laid in 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: the fight against Nicholas Delby. I think that really helped 246 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: him kind of just retool what he's doing here, which 247 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: is why I like having the round two in there 248 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: and not just round one, and why I'm not entirely 249 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: convinced that I'm gonna lie bet Steven Thompson unless a 250 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: very specific scenario plays out. 251 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: Move on to our favorite underdogs for this week. You 252 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: try to get to it a touch early bar part 253 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: of the night. We'll go there now my time. Yeah, absolutely, 254 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, let's let's start with a guy that you've 255 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: bet on in the past, and I'm curious if you're 256 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: interested in betting on Austin Lane again this weekend because 257 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: it is a big, juicy number at about plus five 258 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: hundred against me for Rotrino, and Petrino has generally been 259 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: a fraud of the UFC. He couldn't finish Tyson Pedro, 260 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: he lost as a big favorite against Anthony Smith, got 261 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: KOed by Justin Joby. He was even losing his fight 262 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: to Marcine Primeia before getting that round three minis in 263 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: that fight. So going against Austin Lane, who's a bigger man, 264 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: breaches taller, reached to reach at and toorncha taller moving 265 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: up to heavyweight against Lane, who is not the best fighter, 266 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: but I think capable of at least surviving and hanging 267 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: around with a guy who's moving up from light heavyweight. 268 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: I do you think there's a still advantage obviously for Patrino? 269 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: The line reflects that, but overall, he just doesn't seem 270 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: to have the aggressive finishing mentality that you would expect 271 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: from a guy who looks like he does. He looks 272 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: like a villain in a Bond movie. He just doesn't 273 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: seem to fight like that and doesn't seem to be 274 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: covering the market price tags that are being set for him. 275 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: So I like the over in this matchup between Lane 276 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and Patrino, the over one and a half rounds of 277 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: plus one oh five. I also like to fight to 278 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: go to a decision at about plus four hundred. I 279 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: make that GTD line about plus three thirty five, and 280 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm interested in strickling Lane as well at about five 281 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: to one. Philly, I would imagine you're probably with me 282 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: on the over one and a half of anything here, 283 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: But any interest in either the GTD or Lanes moneyline 284 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: in this matchup. 285 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: I am not betting those myself because of the bet 286 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: I found, which I think is a necessary condition for 287 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: Lane to win or the fight to go long, and 288 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: that's Austin Lane to get a takedown at plus two 289 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: to fifty. I think if he just stands in front 290 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: of Vito or Petrino, who is much faster, has been 291 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: striking way longer, much more technical, he's gonna have a 292 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: bad time. But just to get a single takedown at 293 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: plus two to fifty is almost like, unless it's Derek 294 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: Lewis or somebody like that, that's almost just you could blind 295 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: bet that in most fights and feel pretty good about it. 296 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: Lane has four takedowns in his last three fights, has 297 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: taken down two of those opponents. Tried to take down 298 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Mario Pinto a couple times but was unable to do so. 299 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: I think Petrino is going to be a lot easier 300 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: to take down than Mario Pinto was, and we saw 301 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: Petrino lose in the grappling against Anthony Smith, so that 302 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: should be the game plan for Austin Lane. His only 303 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: UFC win was because he just tackled Rebella Daspani a 304 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: bunch of times. I think I like both her bets. 305 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: I you know, if I had to pick those and 306 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: couldn't take this prop, absolutely would. I just think for 307 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: any of those things to happen, he's got to get 308 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: a takedown, and he can get a takedown but then 309 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: later get knocked out, or the fight not to go 310 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: over one and a half or any of those other things. 311 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: So plus two to fifty on the O half a takedown. 312 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: I am realizing I technically put this in the wrong 313 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: spot of our show sheets, and my apologies to you, 314 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: but I wanted to do that because I knew we'd 315 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: both be talking about him in the underdog section, and 316 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: it's plus money, so it's still an underdog pick even 317 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: if it's not a money line. 318 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: No, that's that's a great bet. I think Lane almost 319 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: needs a takedown in order for this fight to go 320 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: to go to a decision at the midium. He's going 321 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: to need extended page control probably in order to do that, 322 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: and I think Petrino could fight him off on the plint. 323 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: It's a matter of getting taken down, getting held on 324 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: his back, pock being killed out a little bit in there, 325 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think that's a very sharp bet. Lane 326 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: takedown a plus two to fifty. I think you need 327 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: that in order to hit the GTD or the over. 328 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: I think if you could same game parlay that, you 329 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: know you're able to find that or the GTD. Obviously 330 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: they let you do all those exactly because the fight, 331 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, the longer fight goes, the more likely the 332 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: more chances you ever take down. You're not going to 333 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: give you the ability to do that. But any sort 334 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: of overs on this fight, overtakedowns, over sniffing, strikes, things 335 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: things like that, I think everything will be a little 336 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: bit low based upon how I expect this to want 337 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: to play out. Lane is not a good shain, but Patrino, 338 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: as I said, couldn't even finish Tyson Pedro. I think 339 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: he's finishing abilities just in general, a little bit overrated. 340 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: He looks like a big, tough, strong dude moving up 341 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: to heavyweight now going to be a little bit toughers 342 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: away when he hasn't done it at two five. Also 343 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: curious to see what he looks like basically on the scales. 344 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: I know he weighed in at about two forty five, 345 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: but I didn't actually see what looked like he was 346 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: never a guy who had great cardio at light heavyweight either, 347 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: So it's really a trade off of like is he 348 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: going to look better not having cutting weight, or is 349 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: he just going to look chubby and you know, like 350 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: not in shape because he didn't cut weight. There's there's 351 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: always that trade off when guys move up from two 352 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: oh five to heavyweight as well. So what are your 353 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: thoughts on him potentially adding forty pounds here? Do you 354 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: think it helps his gas? Saying? Do you think to 355 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: seed with you over that? 356 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: That is the crucial question for a couple of fights 357 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: on this card, because we have got going in both 358 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: directions from heavyweight to light heavyweight. I truly don't know. 359 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: I was surprised though, Patrino weighed in heavier than Austin 360 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: Lane by like three or four pounds, which that scares 361 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: me a little bit, just because I'd like to see 362 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: like we saw it with Johnson Almato where he came 363 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 3: in at like two twenty five as first one, then 364 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: two thirty five, like he kind of gradually built up 365 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 3: to it and now all of a sudden, like in 366 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: the cage, he's probably gonna be twenty pounds heavier than 367 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: he's ever fought before. That's a lot extra weight to 368 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: carry and probably does hurt you the later the fight 369 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: goes on. So I'm not, as you pointed out, like 370 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: does not cutting the weight outweigh being heavier pun intended 371 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: there maybe, but like given how rapidly he put all 372 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: that weight on, I don't love it. I like when 373 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: guys do a little bit more of a gradual even 374 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: Kennedy and as a truck will who will talk about shortly. 375 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: I believe kind of had a transitional fight where he 376 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 3: weighed in in between the two when he first came 377 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: up to heavyweight. I could be wrong on that. He 378 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: was two forty one his first heavyweight fight and two 379 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: thirty six, so he's you know, I'm not quite as big, 380 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: not getting quite as heavy as Vitor Petrino, which I 381 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: think is probably the way to do it, or to 382 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: put that weight on gradually. 383 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: Yes, taking at cunning and zech Food waited in a 384 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: two thirty eight for his fight against Walter Walker, Walker 385 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: coming in at forty four and a half pounds, so 386 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: slight weight advantage for Walter Walker, but he does have 387 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: all the grappling upside in this matchup. Why I like 388 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: him at plus money he came at about plus one 389 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: to eighty five, like him down to about plus one seventy, 390 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and I also like his submission prop at plus six 391 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: fifty as well. Kennedy is the color longer fighter five 392 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: entre each advantage. He is a better striker as well, 393 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: but as I said, Walker has all the grappling upside 394 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: in this matchup. He attempts about sixty downs for five 395 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: minutes spent at distance. Kennedy's a good takedown on the 396 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: defense in his career eighty three percent, but controlled just 397 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: fifty percent of positions on the ground. Walker is controlled 398 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: ninety four percent of grappling positions. So if Walker is 399 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: able to get him down, I think he keeps him 400 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: down for extended control time. If not finishing to fight 401 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: be a submission. I also like this fight to end 402 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: inside the distance at minus one fifty as well. Projected 403 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: that Closter to minus one seventy five. Kenny absolutely finished 404 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: Walker on the feet, in addition to getting finished himself 405 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: on the mats. Billy Walker money line two about plus 406 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: one seventy sub plus six to fifty ends inside the 407 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: distance the minus one fifty Any of those three bets 408 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: you like on this matchup. 409 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: The sub for sure. I was trying to look up 410 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: while you were talking if anyone had these specific submission 411 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 3: method bets, because he's won two in a row Man 412 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: heel book. Yeah, I couldn't find it on any books 413 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: right now as I was looking. If I was gonna 414 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: beat this one, i'd probably just bet the heel hook 415 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: crop just kind of for the bit at this point, 416 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: because you'd think it'd have to be like plus ten 417 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: thousand or something if we were setting fair odds, which 418 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: maybe they're onto that. But yeah, I think the sub 419 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: is the sharpest of those. Kennedy should probably win a 420 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: decision just by out pointing him on the feet, got 421 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: a lot of height and reach. It was a better striker. 422 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: Don't really see Walter Walker kno out. He could knock 423 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: them out on the ground, I suppose, but don't see 424 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: it happening standing. So I think the submission should be 425 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: a bigger proportion of his win condition. So I like 426 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: that one again. It'd be fun if you got another 427 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: heel hook because we've seen so few in the past, 428 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: like ten years, and I think pretty much all of 429 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: them are of Alter Walker and Ryan Hall. 430 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people drop for them. Walker is 431 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: the only guy who's been able to actually finish a 432 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: fight with it looking for a heavyweight fight to finish. 433 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: By the way, as I said, this fight is used 434 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: to end inside the distance. The main event between Lewis 435 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: and Tashera is used to end inside the distance. We 436 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: haven't had a heavyweight fight finish since March fifteen to 437 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, three months since we've had a heavyweight 438 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: finish in the UFC, I believe over twenty fights i've occurred. 439 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: A lot of those have gone over. Part of the 440 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: reason I'm continuing to bet these heavyweight overs. They've gone 441 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: to decision about a forty eight percent clip three round 442 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: heavyweight fights. Over the past three years, the UFC has 443 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: cut a lot of their heavyweights. The division is much 444 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: smaller now, much less talented than it used to be. 445 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: A lot of guys getting called up like Alvin Hines 446 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: last week. A lot of guys getting brought up regionally 447 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: don't necessarily belong there, but are fighting guys who are not, like, 448 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, absolute world beaters because they division down so deeply. 449 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: So Yeah, just in general, the heavyweight division not nearly 450 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: as good as it used to be, but as a result, 451 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: the finishes just are not materializing either. But this is 452 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: one matchup that looks pretty binary. I think a finish 453 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: is likely to occur. Another matchup that I think a 454 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: finish could occur, though, it is a fight that is 455 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: used to go to a decision. But Jake Matthews against 456 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: Cheaty and Jawani Cheaty three inches taller seven inch each advantage. 457 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: He's humongous for wealthweight. But Matthews should have the grappling 458 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: advantage in this fight. I'm just not sure whether he's 459 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: going to be able to take Cheady down. Cheaty is 460 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: absolutely humongous, undefeated at one hundred and seventy pounds. You though, 461 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: like the underdog in this matchup, Jake Matthews at about 462 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: plus one point in a fight that open closer to 463 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: a pick them, You're done waiting this line to continue 464 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: to go up, I assume. So where's your price target 465 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: on Matthews? What are you betting a down? 466 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think I need the plus one thirty. I'm 467 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: assuming it'll still creep up a little bit. I think 468 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: I don't know why it would suddenly reverse last minute here. 469 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: I think anything north of plus one twenty or so. 470 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: I know Cheaty is undefeated at welterweight and like the 471 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: results have been solid, but he hasn't looked great, like 472 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: you need a split decision to beat Reese McKee. Decision 473 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: against Jared Gooden not very confidence inspiring. And then he 474 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: missed weight against Elizar Zeleski Dos Santos, who is very 475 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: very old when that fight happened. Uh thirty eight yeh. 476 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: Cheaty's also getting up there in years, and I don't 477 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: love these tall, long guys cutting so much weight as 478 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: they get older, Like I worry about durability and like 479 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: injury type stuff. Corey hill Style Anderson Silva another tall, 480 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: lanky guy for the division who cut a good amount 481 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: of weight that concerns me. Although it looks just came 482 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: in the Cheaty missed weight again, so maybe he's not 483 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: actually cutting that weight to make one seventy I will 484 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: say this is the kind of way and weight missed 485 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: that I like to bet against. He was one seventy 486 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: one and a half. That means he didn't give up. 487 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: He was desperately trying to make it. He knew he 488 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: missed the last time. He knew people are gonna be 489 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: mad at him. He drained himself to the absolute maximum 490 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: and missed by half a pound. That is a lot 491 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: different than when a guy stops cutting it one seventy 492 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: four or whatever and just says, screw it. I'll give 493 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: him my twenty percent. This is the kind that actually 494 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: really does benefit the opponent. Jake Matthews fairly durable if 495 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: he doesn't get knocked out early by CHETI I think 496 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: he should take over pretty easily here, especially with the 497 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: weight cutting factor. Also makes him a good live bet. 498 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm feeling better about my Jake Matthews bet 499 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: seeing this way in results than I was when I 500 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: made it a couple hours ago. 501 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll absolutely be betting Matthews live after round one. 502 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: Considering Getie's weight Manu Chet He's never had the best 503 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: cardio is super dangerous given the size, but the weightcut 504 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: should drain some of that power and was certainly for 505 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: his salmona down the stretch as well. Jack Matthews live 506 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: after round one once he figures out reach advantage take 507 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: over that fight down the stretch. One more underdog play, 508 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: which is also going to lead into one of my 509 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: props for this weekend. That's Nate land where Nate the 510 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: train I've lost twenty against Morgan Sharier at minus two seventy. 511 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Nate is from Clarkstill, Tennessee, which is just an hour 512 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: outside of National, so I'm sure we'll have people in 513 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: the building, but the crowd will also be behind him 514 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: as well, and for that reason, I think he's a 515 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: good bet to both win by decision of plus four 516 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: or fifty and to win by split decision at ten 517 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: to one with the home crowd behind him. As a 518 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: high volume, high paced fighter going against Sharier, who tends 519 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: to be a little bit low volume times land we're 520 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: out lands opponents or Land where Lands about five point 521 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: six strikes per minute at distance, Sharier about four point eight, 522 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: So I do think Landward should have a slight volume 523 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: edge in this matchup. Sharier a little bit more efficient 524 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: with his strikes, a little bit better defensively, and does 525 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: carry a little bit more power. But I'll take home 526 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: doown fighter on the decision props as I said, plus 527 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: four to fifty to win by decision ten to one. 528 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: The win by decision for NATA train. You're just gonna 529 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: go ahead though, and take the train on the money line. 530 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: Should have some submission upside here. I don't know if 531 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: he can knock out Cherrier, but should be a high 532 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: paced fight, relatively high variance. You like Nate the Train 533 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: on the money line? Where do you like him down to? 534 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're not betting Nate the Train here, 535 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 3: Like this sport isn't for you? Right? It's Nate land 536 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: where in Tennessee. He's the most fun dude. I would 537 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 3: have like, we all want to see him get on 538 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: the mic in Tennessee of all places first of all. 539 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: So I was never not going to bet Nate land 540 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: where in this spot, kind of regardless. I did watch 541 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: some tape on it, though, so this isn't me coming 542 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: in totally blind. A couple things I noticed Cherrier in 543 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: the UFC is either one by knockout or lost decisions. 544 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: If you look at Nate Landweer's record, there's a couple 545 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: of knockout losses on there. One was a kind of 546 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: fluky flying knee. The last one against Douhu Troi. He 547 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: didn't really get knocked out. He didn't even take that 548 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: much damage. He was just stuck in bottom crucifix and 549 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: it was very obvious he wasn't going to get out, 550 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: so the ref jump in and saved him. At the 551 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: end of the fight. Rumor has it he was both 552 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: sick and dealing with a broken hand in that fight, 553 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: which if you watch it back, he was trying to 554 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: throw a lot of elbows at range, which kind of 555 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: makes sense that his hand was broken. Again, I'm backwards 556 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: rationalizing to an extent because I really want to be 557 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: on night Land where here, but those things all check out. 558 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: The reason I'm not going decision is because of that 559 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: submission upside. It's not just that he has submission upside, 560 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: just that he has a really good front headlock series. 561 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: Cherrier has done well to mix in his grappling and 562 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: get some takedowns. That's like kind of revitalized his career, 563 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 3: I would argue, is when he started mixing in takedowns. 564 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: But if he shoots and good stuff, he's in that 565 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 3: perfect position for Anacondo's dar says Nate to spin and 566 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: take the back. That's all the stuff he does really well. 567 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: So I'm actually on top of Nate's money line. I'm 568 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: going to take a flyer on land where by submission 569 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: I saw plus fifteen hundred out there. Which is it's unlikely. 570 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's going to happen, but plus fifteen 571 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: to one odds, and how can you not root for 572 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: the train in Tennessee. Look at those biceps, all the 573 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: greatness that we're going to get out of him on 574 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 3: the mic. You gotta do it right. I don't know 575 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: any better way to put it other than we need 576 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: this to happen against a French dude in Tennessee. 577 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, just to my point about the decision equity as well. 578 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Obviously French dude Tennessee against the little native like the 579 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: crowd obviously going to be landward partisan. But also Sharier 580 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: has nine split or majority decisions in fifteen career decisions, 581 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: and he's five and ten on the store cards. He 582 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: is not a good point fighter, twelve knockouts, never been 583 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: knocked out, has been submitted once, has a few submissions 584 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: of his own, but five and ten career on the 585 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: store cards, and nine of those fifteen decisions were split 586 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: for majority. That just steaks to low volume constantly in 587 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: close fights. And oh, by the way, pretty easy to 588 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: click on plus two twenty against the guy who is 589 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: constantly going to split decisions and never pulling away from opponents. 590 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: I think Land where decision only could be an interesting 591 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: bed as well. I have not looked at that market, 592 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: but I would imagine he's probably a value back in 593 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: the decision only market as well. If this one goes 594 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: off fifteen minutes. Hard to imagine Land, we're not seeing 595 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: his hand raised unless he gets knocked down. I would 596 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: imagine in separate rounds one total that we both like 597 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: this weekend. It is not a heavyweight bout. It is 598 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: a light heavyweight out because just Junior Tapa is moving 599 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: down from heavyweight two light heavyweight to face two go Tocos. 600 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: But I do like this fight to go over potentially 601 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: to go the distance as well. Tocas is full grappling upside. 602 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: I think I'm actually more concerned about him potentially finishing 603 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Tafa via submission in the first seven and a half 604 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: minutes than I am about Taf and knocking him out. 605 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: But light heavyweight average fights go to decision about a 606 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: thirty nine percent clip, which is plus one six implied. 607 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: I projected this one at plus two fifty. They're giving 608 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: you four to one on this fight to GTD and 609 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: then plus money plus one oh five on the over 610 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: one and a half. So I'll play the over one 611 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: and a half here and then also sprinkle you drop 612 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: at plus four hundred. Billy, you like this fight to 613 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: go over as well, I believe, because you also like 614 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Toco's the win at any point after the first round, 615 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: at any point after seven and a half minutes, I believe. 616 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: So how are you playing this one specifically? For you 617 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: live betting Tocos after one and that any other ways 618 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: you're playing it? 619 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what I specifically, and I did the full 620 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: breakdown for this one, which will be out Saturday morning, 621 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: is Toco's in over four and a half minutes, is 622 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: in an SVP that gets you to plus two to 623 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: fifty five. I think you could play with that up 624 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: or down kind of to any point and it would 625 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: still be a solid bet. Not only do I think 626 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Toko is gonna win, I think him winning heavily correlates 627 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: with this fight going long. Tafa had terrible cardio at heavyweight. 628 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: This gets us into that discussion again. Now he's a 629 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: light heavyweight. Does carrying less weight help him more than 630 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: the weight cut hurts him? I don't know. His cardio 631 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: was so bad though that even if it helps him 632 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: a little bit. I'm still worried if this fight goes long, 633 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: like he was fighting a guy who took the fight 634 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: on two days notice in his last fight, and they 635 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: both were totally gassed, and Tafa just happened to land 636 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: one or two more in the second round. Tafa also 637 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: terrible grappler, like if he gets on bottom. He was 638 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: nearly finished in that last fight, saved by the belt 639 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: at the end of the first round. I don't love 640 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: fighters going from heavyweight to two of five just because 641 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: the skill level is higher and the speed is higher 642 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 3: at the lighter weight classes. I think the hope if 643 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: your Tafa is that these guys aren't so much bigger 644 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: than me anymore, I'll finally be able to defend takedown. 645 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: Tacos is still bigger than him, He's taller and longer. 646 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: I bet if we wait him in on fight night, 647 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: Tacos would still be heavier, and he's a much better 648 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: grappler than most of the people Tafa fought at heavyweight. 649 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: So I think it's a bad fight for Tafa, and 650 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: I just think you know Tafa's going to be dangerous early, 651 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: so therefore a Tacos win correlates with a fight going long. 652 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: I'd be fine with Tacos on the money line, but 653 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: add some amount up over in there. You can do 654 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: over half a round, over three and a half minutes, 655 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: anything in there to get a little bit better. Oddside, like, 656 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be kicking myself, like you said, if there's 657 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: a late first round finish for Tacos, which is entirely possible. 658 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: But he's not in super aggressive hunting those things. He's 659 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: more of a control grappler, as we saw again Navahos starling. 660 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: I think that's probably his likeliest plan. 661 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Early, got a couple of more GTD props that I like, 662 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna throw it to you. We're an 663 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: id prop before we move on to our best bets 664 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: where we're head to head. Mike Davis is a minus 665 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: nine hundred favorite against Mitch Ramirez this week, and I'm 666 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: a big Mike Davis fan. A really good documentary you 667 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: can find on YouTube when Mike Davis went to train 668 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: at Tiger Moue Thai and Thailand, and they basically just 669 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: go through, like all these guys trying out. You can 670 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: get a free year I think three six months living there, 671 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: training there, et cetera, and they did like a tournament. 672 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: These guys through like a ringer train them and Davis 673 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: ended up winning one of the spots there. But it 674 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: was just a really cool vacum menory. You're into MMA 675 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: seeing what these guys go through to try to level 676 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: in their careers. And he hasn't fought a ton of 677 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: the UFC, but he's this super talented, super well rounded fighter. 678 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: His last fight against Fire as the AAM was super awkward, 679 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: and we talked about it with her Pinny a couple 680 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. There were other fighters to it affected. 681 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: I think Davis was clearly the most affected by it. 682 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Those were the fights in Ambu Dhabi with the painted 683 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: dressing room, and Davis was in the same room as McKenny. 684 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: I forgot who else was in that room with them, 685 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: but legitimately when the fight started, Mike Davis pulgarth like 686 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: right away. He looked gas out from the opening bell, 687 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: and the longer the fight went, the better he kind 688 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: of looked. He didn't look great at any point throughout 689 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: the fight. He looked like a severely diminished version of himself, 690 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: but he did seem better the longer the fight went on, 691 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: and it was almost like being out of that room 692 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: and in the full size arena was helping him to 693 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: breathe a little bit better. So of all the guys 694 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: who came out and commented on the fact that that 695 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: recently painted locker room and the paint fumes had a 696 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: affected them before the fight, Davis's account of bit seen 697 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: by far the most believable, especially when you actually watch 698 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: how we performed in the octagon. That said, he is 699 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: getting into his later thirties now, I do worry about 700 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: a level drop, and as a resultant, he is more 701 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: of a point fighter than he is a finisher. He's 702 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: more of that attritional pace, like we'll just finish guys 703 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: by overwhelming them as opposed to overpowering them or just 704 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: having a much better smash Chaine. So I do think 705 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: he could potentially overwhelm Mitch Ramirez here. But overall lightweight 706 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: flights go to decision about a forty six percent clip 707 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: about plus one seventeen and five. They're giving you plus 708 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: one sixty on this fight, and I do think there's 709 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: a chance that Davis is not a minus nine hundred payer. 710 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: He is a diminished version of what we've seen previously, 711 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: and that if that is the case. This fight will 712 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: be closer and more competitive, and those odds indicate and 713 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: for that reason, I'm not taking Davis by decision despite 714 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: a better number. I'll save that for round robin tickets. 715 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead and save Davis, or I'll play 716 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: the fight GTD plus one sixty Billy. Any thoughts on 717 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: Mike Davis and Mitramirez and then I've got one more GDV. 718 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: I was looking up the Mike Davis decision line to 719 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: try to hit you with a gotcha moment there, but 720 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: you anticipated the question and got there. No, I agree 721 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: with all that. It's it's easy to look at Mitramire's's 722 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: record and say, well, he's been knocked out in both 723 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: of his UFC fights, But look at the guys he fought. 724 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,479 Speaker 3: He fought Carlos Protest and Thiago Moyss. No real shame 725 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: in that. Davis is not nearly the striker those guys are, 726 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: and Pross was up a weight class right for Aramires. 727 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: So like you can see how that's not the most applicable. 728 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: I like that. I think you did a good job 729 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: of explaining why to not take the decision line. What's 730 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: the over two and a half on the over two 731 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: and a half plus one four. Yeah, I'd take the 732 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: better price and goes to a decision, So I'm with you. 733 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm finding over there as well. Obviously, 734 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: make sure to shop around sometimes sometimes you can find 735 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: like the same price on the over two and a 736 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: half at one poin book as you can find on 737 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: the GPD at another. There is enough price to Streparency 738 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: from one book with the next. Just make sure to 739 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: shop round, especially now with the sweep stakes books out 740 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 1: there the exchanges like you get such good prices on 741 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: the over two and a half on some of those 742 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: exchanges that it's the same price as taking the gd elsewhere, 743 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: So always make sure to shop round for the priceless prepencies. 744 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: Last fight though, GTD prop for me Bots mcclin against 745 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: Melissa Martinez Women's Strawweight Division. Women's strawweights go to a 746 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: decision at about a sixty seven percent clip in three 747 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: round fights over the past three years, I make this 748 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: close to seventy percent as well, and they're giving you 749 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: plus one to ten on this fight, GTD. It is 750 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: a relatively binary striker versus rattler matchup. If Martinez does 751 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: not get submitted. I think this one does go off 752 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: thirteen minutes. Say so, you're taking plus one ten on 753 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: Melissa Martinez not to get submitted. In my opinion, we 754 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: played a we played another woman's strawweight bout pretty recently, 755 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: or we put it couple of bouts a few weeks 756 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: ago that we're both lining to end inside the distance. 757 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: I think one of them was a rematch, was the 758 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: Mlissa Mullens fight or Melissa Dason fight. It was a 759 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: rematch of a previous fight that had already finished, and 760 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: that one ended up going all fifteen minutes as well. 761 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: Or it might have been the uh like save a fight. 762 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember which which woman show. 763 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: It was definitely one of them, Melissa's, but now I 764 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 3: can't remember which one. 765 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: I can't recall it either. But yeah, like you know, 766 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: regardless of what the favoritism is on one side, and 767 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: Klein is a minus eleven hundred favorite, regardless of whether 768 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: these fights have even finished before in previous iterations, I'm 769 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: just going to keep leaning into average. Two thirds of 770 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: these fights go to a decision. You're giving me a 771 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: plus money. It's a pretty automatic play for me, Billy. 772 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: Anything about that fight scare you off of playing it. 773 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: Do you think klin is super likely to finish? And 774 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: then after that you've got an ITV bet on the 775 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: other woman's type between Lauren Murphy and Edvardo Mora. Yeah. 776 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: What scares me is how nasty client looked with the 777 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: ground and pound against Victoria du to Covid And I 778 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: think Doodakova is a considerably better grappler than Melissa Martinez 779 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: with a caveat though I think in a straight up 780 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: grappling match Dudakova would destroy her. But Doodahkova likes to 781 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: hunt submissions and like to initiate the grappling, which kind 782 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 3: of leaves you open to get ground and pounded more 783 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 3: where if Melissa Martinez has any sense at all, her 784 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 3: only thought as soon as she gets on the ground 785 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: will be to get back up, which I think is 786 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 3: probably a better approach against a fighter like Klein. So 787 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: it's not as easy as saying one fighter is a 788 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: better grappler, therefore you'll do worse against them. I don't 789 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 3: think it quite works that way. I think Martinez' style 790 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: is likelier to prevent a finish on the ground than 791 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 3: Doodahkova's was but it's still scary because Fatom mcclin is 792 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: really good. Also, as we're talking about it, are Melissa 793 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: Mullins and Melissa Dixon the same person? Was that a 794 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 3: name change or are these separate? 795 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: I think? 796 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: I think okay, So then it was Melissa, then it 797 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 3: was Melissa Mullens. We were talking about You said that, 798 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: and I thought about it, and I said, yeah, no, wait, 799 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 3: that's that's the same human being that we're discussing. 800 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: You know, Caitlin Chekegian will always be cho Keg into me. 801 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: I can't even her new name is uh Nina Nuniaz 802 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: is Nina Nuniaz now like she she became Duniaz, But 803 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: she was answer off for quite a bit of time. 804 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: Even after your name Tore. 805 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: I struggle with Tsha Ta Torres because we ruined the 806 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 3: letter day. 807 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I know your name is kind of conn now t show, 808 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: but you'll you'll just always be Also when your nickname 809 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: is the Tornado, when your name is I knew Bernando Torres, 810 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a little hard U. One other 811 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: one other woman's fight. Laura Murphy comes back at forty 812 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: years old. She's eleven years older than Edward and Moras. 813 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: She's also bigger too, interest taller and preach advantage. But 814 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: coming off of the long layoff in her forties, do 815 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: you like Maura to finish this fight inside the distance? 816 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: Murphy has been very durable throughout her first Was there 817 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: something that taped to pointed out to you that this 818 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: would indicata finish or is it just the h gap? 819 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: It's mostly just the edge gap. I mean, she's you said, 820 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 3: in her forty she'll be forty two later this month, 821 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 3: so you know, not even on the early like, didn't 822 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: just turn forty or anything like that. I'm not sure 823 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 3: if she officially retired and is coming back, or if 824 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: she just like didn't fight for a while and then 825 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: popped up two and a half years later. This is 826 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: probably her retirement fight. I haven't seen any indication that 827 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: she is definitely retiring. The tape, though, is more on 828 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 3: the Morari side. She finished her Contender Series win, she 829 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: finished her only win in the UFC, and then she 830 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: finished her first win in the UFC, and then it's 831 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: gone to two relatively close decisions since then. She's fairly aggressive, 832 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 3: both with submissions and striking. Is like a thousand times 833 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 3: better athlete. Than Lauren Murphy at this point, maybe not 834 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 3: at their peaks, and it's just really hard to trust, 835 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, Lauren Murphy to fight through some adversity on 836 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: the ground or really try to fight out a submission, 837 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 3: anything like that, given that she's forty two and a 838 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: half and probably retiring. 839 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: She is definitely retiring. She's confirmed that she will. 840 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: She did say that, okay. 841 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: After the fight. Yeah, this is a official retire fight. 842 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: She did not retire previously, but she also hasn't fought 843 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: since January twenty twenty three going into her retirement fight. 844 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: I do lean GTD on this fight, but given you know, 845 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: my projections lean GTD, given the fact that it's a 846 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: retirement fight, I will not be betting into that. Personally. 847 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: I should throw out the line on that more because 848 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: that gives a little bit better context here, more inside 849 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: the distances. Plus two seventy for a fighter who's like 850 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 3: minus seven hundred or so money line, which is almost 851 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 3: you know, it's hard, it's hard to not take that 852 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: even without the other information on it. So I'm not 853 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 3: saying it's she's likeliest to finish this fight, but I 854 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: think she's a lot likelier than plus two seventy. 855 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's very fair. Again, the retirement angles, 856 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you see fighters like try extra hard not to 857 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: get finished in retirement fights. Sometimes you just see them 858 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: like ready to walk out the door, just ready to 859 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: lay down the gloves and sure, the moment you get 860 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: in a crucifix, I'm just going to give up and 861 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: let you pound me out. So yeah, it could go 862 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: either way with the retire I fight angle. I don't 863 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: want to lean too hard into her fighting extra because 864 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to get finished in her last fight 865 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: or the other direction. But I certainly do not love 866 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: or would not bet on a fighter going into the 867 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: retirement fight. Let's talk about a fight that we were 868 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: had to head on, though we are not often had 869 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: to head on a fight. Felt good to put this 870 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: one in the best bet section because I feel like 871 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: we're both particularly confident on our reads here. So that 872 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: is going to be Calvin Cator against Steve Garcia, my 873 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: favorite fight on the card. This is an absolute banger 874 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: because there is not a fourteen year age gap between 875 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: these two and it's actually like a well matched pairing. 876 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: But so here's my perspective on it, and happy to 877 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: let Billy take his thoughts to run away with it. 878 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: Curious to be softhumb thing on tape. So Garcia was 879 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: just a little bit too public for me this week, 880 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: But more so Garcia on a five fight winning streak, 881 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: all by knockout in the lately division to me, not 882 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: necessarily repeatable. Obviously has great power. There's only so long 883 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: that you can go knocking dudes out one fight after another, 884 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: and I do think as a result of recording fight 885 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: straight knockouts, he has built up a little bit of 886 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: fade act. Cater, on the other hand, has lost four 887 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: of his past six fights. He's never been knocked down 888 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: in his career, He's never been finished by strikes. He's 889 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: only lost via finish. Was a TKO loss injury TKO. 890 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: I thought he won the Josh Emmitt fight. Obviously at 891 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: the injury lost. Allen came back not fully recovered against 892 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: al Jamaine Sterling got taken down a bunch in that fight. 893 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: That fight has no bearing on this one. Then he 894 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: fought use of Salah Zalal is a very good counterpuncher, 895 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: very athletic. Cater denied all the takedowns in that fight, 896 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: but also had to chase the Laal around the cage. 897 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: For the entirety of that matchup, Steve Garcia is gonna 898 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: run right at Calvin Cator. They're going to box in 899 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: the pocket, They're going to swing it out, and by 900 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: the nature of the stylistic matchup, the line I think 901 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: is correct in that this should be close to a 902 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: pick up. It's very tough to make either guy a 903 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: big favorite here because it should be a boxing match. 904 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: That said, I prefer Cater striking. I think he's the 905 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: more diverse striker. I think he's the better pocket boxer. 906 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: Garcia is a little bit bigger, carries a little bit 907 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: more power, but he is not as durable as Calvin 908 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: Cator and that's where I prefer Cater in this fight. 909 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: That's ultimately why I land on Cater. Garcia has been dropped. 910 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: He's been dropped twice. He got dropped at twice and 911 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: ko by Mahashat, got dropped by Shilin Nurmbeki, and also 912 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: got grappled in previous fights as well. And I think 913 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: there's a chance that Cater could mix it a takedown 914 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: to here and get a few minutes a top time. 915 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: That's what he did in order to fee gigot Chikad's 916 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: got on top of him the first round, elbowed him 917 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: a bunch control them for three minutes. We've seen mel 918 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: Costa control Garcia for four and a half minutes, Shalen 919 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: ConTroll them for three and a half minutes. My point 920 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: here is mostly Cater has been defending takedowns, had to 921 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: anti grapple in his past couple of fights. Now he's 922 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: going to be getting a brawl in the pocket against 923 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: another guy who wants the brawl with him. And if 924 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: anybody has picked upside in this matchup, for me, it's 925 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: Kaled Cater. I'm curious if you saw something else in 926 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: the grappling that would point the other direction. But yeah, 927 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: I think Caters undervalued. I make him about I think 928 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: minus one ten. I make a minus one twenty. I 929 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: bet him to minus one ten. But I also like 930 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: the GTD as well. I make the GTD about minus 931 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: one fourteen. They're giving you as high as plus one 932 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: ninety on this fight to go to a decision. I 933 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: think it's close and competitive. I think it goes all 934 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. I prefer Cater, and I like to mix 935 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: Cater with the GTD prop in a combined structured bet. 936 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: You're going the other direction with Garcia and Garcia by kobilly. 937 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: Garcia KOs plus two ten, Garcia moneyline is minus one 938 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: twenty five. Give me your price targets on those bets, 939 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: and then also, I'm curious, if this does go fifteen minutes, 940 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: who you think is likely to win a decision. 941 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'll start with their last question because I 942 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 3: one hundred percent agree with you that if it does 943 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 3: go fifteen minutes, I think Calvin Cater is much likely 944 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 3: to win. I don't disagree with either of your bets. 945 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 3: I would just put him together. I would just bet 946 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 3: Cater by decision if I was on that side of things. Yes, 947 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: Garcia has struggled with durability a little bit, but he's 948 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 3: not like one of those guys who we view is 949 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: super chinny. You know, he's fought some tough guys who've 950 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 3: done that to him. I don't think that's the likeliest outcome. 951 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 3: And Cater is more of a volume finisher, auditional finisher, 952 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 3: however we want to put it. Who's fought a lot 953 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 3: of five minute fights, and I don't know that he'll 954 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 3: have the pace in a three round fight. I'm sorry, 955 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: five round fight. I don't know if he'll have the 956 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 3: pace in a three round fight to like build up 957 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 3: that volume the same way like he should. He should 958 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 3: have adjusted by now, but that's a tricky thing to 959 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 3: do once guys get used to the twenty five minute fights. 960 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me is that you know your 961 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 3: analysis is banking on Cater's durability, which has been excellent 962 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 3: throughout his career, never even been dropped in the UFC 963 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 3: outside of the injury. He did get finished one time. 964 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: Other than that, though he got submitted way back in 965 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight when he was like probably a 966 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: high school senior, So I'm not putting too much faith 967 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 3: in that either. But he's also taken so much damage. 968 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 3: He absorbs more than two strike. He absorbs two strikes 969 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 3: more than he lands per minute, despite having solid percentage 970 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 3: wise defense, because he just stands right there in the pocket, 971 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 3: wants to trade with you, and he's given up fight 972 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 3: and reach against Garcia, so he's not going to be 973 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 3: able to find that point where he can out touch, 974 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,479 Speaker 3: where he can touch you, but you can't touch him. 975 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 3: And that's where Calvin Cator does his best work. We 976 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: saw Holloway another longer guy set the record for most 977 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 3: significant strikes in a UFC fight against Calvin Cator. Great 978 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 3: that he survived that, but you can only survive so 979 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: many of those before those start to add up. The 980 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 3: other technical or stylistic thing I saw is Cater doesn't 981 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 3: fight great moving backwards, and when he has to fight 982 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 3: taller people, kind of by definition, he has to back 983 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 3: up a little bit more. I think if Garcia does 984 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 3: his normal thing and kind of blitzes early, that puts 985 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 3: Cater on the back foot and puts Garcia in a 986 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 3: good spot. If that happens and then line blows up 987 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 3: on Cater, I do want to lie that on him, though, 988 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 3: I think Garcia pretty much needs to finish here. My 989 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 3: original read was I'm going to come in with the 990 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 3: Steve Garcia pre fight bet and then try to live 991 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 3: back Cater. Then I saw a certain book has a 992 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: way off market line on Garcia knockout at plus two ten. 993 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: Everybody else is plus one sixty five. I'm not sure 994 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 3: if we can name specific books on this particular podcast, 995 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 3: but jump in the Action Network discord where I discussed 996 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 3: that earlier. Here, when you're getting a fifty cents different 997 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 3: from every other book, it's kind of worth taking it. 998 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 3: So I have zero point six units or to win 999 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 3: half a unit on Steve Garcia money line, zero point 1000 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 3: four units on knockout, and if I can get so 1001 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 3: giving me a total of one. If I can get 1002 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: Cater north of plus two hundred and put another half 1003 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: unit on it, That's what I'm going to try to 1004 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 3: do at any point because to all of your points, 1005 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: if he does survive all that, I think he's the 1006 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 3: clear A side here. I'm just not sure how many 1007 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 3: more surviving storms he has in him at almost thirty 1008 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 3: eight years old, with some significant injuries, so much damage taken. 1009 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 3: And you mentioned this not being a bit big age gap. 1010 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 3: It kind of feels like it is though it's only 1011 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 3: four years. But if you would have told me these 1012 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: guys are ten years apart, I would have believed it. 1013 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I think it's you know, how how 1014 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: much we've seen Cater in the UFC relative to CBARC. 1015 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,959 Speaker 1: I think he's double the number of fights. The only 1016 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: point I want to push back on, and this this 1017 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: applies to all Calvin Cator fights, is the statistical data 1018 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: is so skewed for Cater based off of solely the 1019 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: Max Holloway fights. He got outlanded by three hundred and 1020 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: twenty five strikes in that fight that it just permanently 1021 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 1: skews all of Calvin Cator's significant strike absorbed and landed data. 1022 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: Right after the Hollyway fight, he outlanded Giga one fifty 1023 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 1: seven one twenty nine at distance and then outlanded Josh 1024 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: amm At one thirty one one oh seven at distance, 1025 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: got outlanded by Zawall seventy four to thirty five, but 1026 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: as I said, he was chasing him around for much 1027 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: of that fight. I do have some concerns, you know, 1028 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: about Cater's overall athleticism explosiveness Following the injury against Alan, 1029 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: It took him a while to get going against Sterling. 1030 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: That fight was only I mean that fight was almost 1031 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: two years a year and a half removed from the injury, 1032 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: so he should have been back near one hundred percent 1033 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: by that point. And then took the next fight I 1034 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: guess like ten months later against the Wall and still 1035 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: look okay, didn't look as explosive as he did previously. 1036 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: So I do think there is, you know, a potential 1037 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: loss of athleticism on the Cater side. That is maybe 1038 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: being undervalued to here. But you know, when you look 1039 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: at a guy on a four fight losing streak, lost 1040 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: five of six against the guy who's won five straight 1041 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: by KO and the money line is basically a pick them, 1042 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: I think something seems off to me relative to how 1043 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 1: this would normally be priced. I feel like normally, normally 1044 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,919 Speaker 1: Cater would be creeping closer to two to one based 1045 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: off of like the recent results, and I do think 1046 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: it is appropriately lined. I actually would flip it, though, 1047 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: and make Cater this slight favorite. Only fight we didn't 1048 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: get to on this card is Chris Curtis cutting back 1049 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: down in weight, going back down from one to eighty 1050 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: five to one seventy, going back to welterweight here for 1051 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: the first time, and I believe five years should sap 1052 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: his durability just a little bit could potentially hurt his cardio. 1053 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: But I do think Max Griffin has largely looked washed 1054 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: in his recent fights. There's no bet for me on 1055 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 1: Curtis against Max Griffin. Just curious of you at anything 1056 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. 1057 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm leaning towards Griffin at the price because he's 1058 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: you know, two to one underdog and I worry about 1059 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: older guy. Curtis dealt with a lot of injuries. He 1060 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 3: had a torn hamstring, he had some kind of knee thing, 1061 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,919 Speaker 3: a hand thing like seems like you can't get right. 1062 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 3: He's thirty eight and has head forty three professional fights. 1063 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: So while Griffin looks washed, you know, might not be 1064 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,959 Speaker 3: the only one. With all that said, I am honor 1065 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 3: bound to not bet against the Action man while working 1066 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 3: at the Action Network, So no Max Griffin bet for me. 1067 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 3: But if I were going to bet and we're not 1068 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 3: feeling responsible for keeping a bit alive, that would be 1069 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 3: my bet. But I'm going with a bit and just 1070 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 3: abstaining from this one last thing. 1071 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: When I get to Billy, I saw you tweet out 1072 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: earlier this week. This is a much better card for 1073 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: DFS that it is for betting with all these heavy favors. 1074 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 1: Is there any particular fighter or fight from a DFS 1075 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,919 Speaker 1: perspective that you're excited about this week? 1076 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, in love with Fata mcclein. She's ninety nine hundred, 1077 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 3: which if anyone follows DFS that's absurd. But she's gonna 1078 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,720 Speaker 3: be super low owned and she might do the Morab 1079 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 3: thing where she threads the needle of as to your 1080 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 3: point of this fight going to a decision where she 1081 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 3: just racks up a ton of takedowns because Martinez keeps 1082 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 3: getting back up and take downs score super well for DFS. 1083 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 3: I think that's a huge aye is just relative to 1084 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 3: her ownership production, but it's also just, you know, a 1085 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 3: good challenge roster building wise, because in a perfect world, 1086 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 3: you'd play all the minus one thousand favorites, but you 1087 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 3: obviously can't do that, so you have to make some 1088 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 3: tough decisions. Bomb theme, I think is a really good 1089 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 3: spot as well. He's a little bit cheaper than the 1090 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 3: heavy favorites, but given the takedown upside and the finishing upside, 1091 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit more likely to land 1092 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 3: in the optimal lineup than somebody like Mike Davis. So honestly, 1093 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 3: like your picks in our sheet have actually lined up 1094 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 3: perfectly with how I'm seeing it for DFS. So if 1095 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 3: you're playing DFS, you can back extrapolate from what Zerlo 1096 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 3: said and I think come up with some pretty solid lineups. 1097 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 3: Love that. 1098 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: Hopefully that means I'm going to win some money plank 1099 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: some DFS this week. I follow my own advice that'll 1100 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 1: do it for a UFC betting preview. 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