1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: One, two, three, four. I want to tear for That's right, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: You heard me right. You know why I want to 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: tear for because I'm sick and tired of industrialization being 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: overseas in our middle class and our young people not 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: being able to afford a damn house, build cars, have 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: steel plants. It's time we bring all that back. And 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: that's what these tariff wars are going to do. And 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: guess what We're going to tell you how by inviting 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: one of the top young economists out there, mister Bryce Gill, 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: onto the show today. 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: This is the David Rutherford Show. A tariff is. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: A tax or duty imposed by a government on goods 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: and services that are imported into or exported out of 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: a country. It's typically used to regulate international trade, either 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: by raising the price of imported goods to protect domestic industries, 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: or by generating revenue for the government. There are two 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: main types. A fixed tariff, a set amount per unit, 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: like five dollars per barrel of oil in an advolorum tariff, 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: a percentage of the value, like ten percent of a 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: car's price. Guess what, It's time to get America back 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: on top and tariffs is going to be the way 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: we do it. 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: Now, what you have. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: To understand before everybody loses their mind on a regular basis. 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: That seems to be happening all over the place, even 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: to the point where the crazies are out there trying 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: to burn vehicles of the most productive American car company 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: that we've ever known. 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Let's just not even talk about that at all. What 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: we do need to. 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Talk about are where are the middle class jobs? Seriously, 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: I want you to tell us where the middle class 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: jobs have gone. I want you to post it below 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: on this segment of the show. I want you to 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: post it anywhere you can. You tell me in detail 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: when the American might of industrialization and production, when that 37 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: went away. 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Now, I have a pretty good idea. 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I believe that the post World War two generation, the 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: greatest generation of all time. After they went over to Europe, 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: into the Pacific theater and kick some ass, what happened? 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: They came home, They went back to their factory jobs, 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: and what they do. They built this damned country into 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: being the most significantly productive country on the planet. How 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: we built cars, We manufactured steel, we mined, we developed oil, 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: We developed all different types of small businesses. Right, that's 47 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: what we do, and that's what made America great. Well, 48 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: fast forward seems somewhere around the late nineteen sixties and 49 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: early nineteen seventies, an old tricky dick decided to go 50 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: over to China and open up China's economy, probably in 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: the midst of one of the greatest tyrannical rules of 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: all town time in maose Dung. Some people say it's 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: forty million people. Some people say it's all hundred million 54 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: people that were annihilated because of communism. 55 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, that makes sense. 56 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Let's make them our future global industrialized country. Right again, 57 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: once more, in the American history, we seem to have 58 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: this bizarre relationship and desire to want to part with 59 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: partner with the complete and utter antithesis of capitalism and 60 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: i e. 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: Communism. 62 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Many people don't even know that in the nineteen twenties 63 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and thirty American manufacturing a giants went over to Russia 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: and helped them reindustrialize after the Bolshevik Revolution, even and 65 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: then even leading up to World War Two. All different 66 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: types of relationships in America. In fact, there's a beautiful 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: book out there called Stalin's War that describes in detail 68 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: many hidden communists operating within the United States government. Right, 69 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: So again this bizarre relationship with communist countries. Well, obviously, 70 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, what we decide to do. We 71 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: decided to begin to offshore our factory jobs, which under 72 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: the Clinton administration seemed to explode even more after the 73 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: fall of Russia. There's a lot of brilliant guys out 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: there who talk about this transition. One of them is 75 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Sachs. I think he's a brilliant guy. And because 76 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: he was there, I mean, he was on the ground 77 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: in Russia when they approached him and said, hey, help 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: us reindustrialize this nation out of the USSR into the 79 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: modern Ushian economy and country wanting their desire to join 80 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: in in capitalism internationally. Well, around those same times, what 81 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: we became the world number one empire, and what we 82 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: do we accelerated the the de evolution of American. 83 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: Prowess and might at home. That's right. 84 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Think of all the people in your life, in particular, 85 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: if you were from the Midwest, or from the southern 86 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: region that was responsible, or even from the Northeast where 87 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: we had these profound manufacturing capabilities, well, guess what all 88 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: those places went away? 89 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: Think of Flint, Michigan. 90 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I ain't think of this beautiful little town that was 91 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: so integrated into the car industry has been utterly devastated, 92 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: down to the point where they're poisoning their own people 93 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: out of malfeasans and mismanagement. Right, that's what happens when 94 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: you attack the middle class. That's what happens when you 95 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: attack the very people that built this nation. And so 96 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: what do we need to do. We need to re 97 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: employ the next generation. Right, the greatest generation is pretty 98 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: much passing away their children. The baby boomers are on average, 99 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: what in their late sixties and or in mid seventies. 100 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: They are no longer working, although many of them because 101 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: of inflation, have had to go back to work because 102 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: whatever their money they're making on a broken social security 103 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: system is forcing them back into the workforce. It drives 104 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: me absolutely nuts to think about grandma and grandpa having 105 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: to be Walmart readers because their pension funds aren't paying 106 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: them enough. Now, I know what you're going to say, 107 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna be like rut an Halt, buddy. These damn 108 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: tariffs are are whacking the hell out of the markets. 109 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: They're destroying these pension funds they're not these fixed income 110 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: accounts and all this it's destroying it. Listen, I'm going 111 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: to tell you guess what, we were almost twenty some 112 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: percent higher than the lows that we were in twenty 113 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: one twenty two in the markets. Right, twenty two is 114 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: an absolute calamity in the markets. Right, but that came back. 115 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: So are we off on the bottoms nowhere near? We're 116 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: way We're still way up. And also if you're not 117 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: familiar with the markets over the history of highs and 118 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: lows based on these different economic cycles, well then stand 119 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: by to stand by because today's guest is going to 120 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: be absolutely informative, not only about the tariff situation, but 121 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: also with what's going on with the history of the markets. Right. 122 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: My point I want you to understand, what today's episode 123 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: on The David Rutherford Show is designed to do is 124 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: to educate you in a more common sense approach. Right. 125 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: That's what we're here to do on this show. 126 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Is my job is to be a flash bang of 127 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: truth for you to help make give you a common 128 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: sense approach toing nite critical thinking so you can better 129 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: understand what's going on in the world's issues. My mission, 130 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: I want to get the middle class back to work. 131 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: I want to reindustrialize American might and prowess, and I 132 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: believe President Trump is doing that. Now we live in 133 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: this you know, scroll through world, and so everybody wants 134 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: it to happen yesterday. We're not even at one hundred 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: damn days yet, So slow your role, stand by and 136 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: get ready for what who I believe is one of 137 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: the best young economists that's out there in the world, 138 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: mister Bryce Gill, So stand by to stand by because 139 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: he's coming on the show. 140 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: Who Yah, Welcome to the David Rutherford Show. 141 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: Man. Have I got a big one for you today? Man? 142 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: You want to talk about terror fors, you want to 143 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: talk about the war and the economy, you want to 144 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: talk warren elites. Well, guess what today I am bringing 145 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: on one of the best dudes I've ever met in 146 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: my wife, Bryce Gill, who's who's one of the top 147 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: economists for one of the biggest asset managed for management 148 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: firms in the country in the world. Uh. But my 149 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: favorite part about Bryce is uh is the fact that 150 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: he's a gorilla gun major and he's the man that 151 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I go to when I'm looking at what next gun 152 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: bild I need to have what subgun's the coolest? What's 153 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: suppressor I have? And Jordan man if before we get 154 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: them on, can you just play that that that that 155 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: video for us real quick. 156 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Brother. I can see you. 157 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Out, ladies and gentlemen, the handlebar economists himself, Bryce Gill, 158 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: what's up? 159 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: Brother? 160 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: What's up? Dave? This is so fun man, I'm so 161 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: glad to be with you here today, and we couldn't 162 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: have picked a better time to do it. I mean, 163 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: the world is going crazy and people I think need 164 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 4: a little perspective on what's going on. 165 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: So well, that's why you're here. So let's not dally 166 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: dally man. Let's jump right in. So let me ask 167 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: you this is Is this Trump waging war against our 168 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: adversaries from a national security perspector of a global economy reset? 169 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Or is this really what I believe it is, which 170 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:30,479 Speaker 1: is Trump waging war for the for the the average dude, 171 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: the person that works hard, the guy that doesn't have 172 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: a huge market portfolio or giant, you know, real estate portfolio, 173 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: and he's waging war for that dude against the elites 174 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: in the world. 175 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: What do you think, man, it's it's I think it's 176 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: kind of both, to be honest with you. So, when 177 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: you think about tariffs and trade barriers and globalization and 178 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: everything else, a lot of this starts in World War 179 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: One and World War Two, especially post World War two. 180 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: When you think about it, we're the only ones that 181 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: didn't get bombed, right, Dave. So we're basically the monopoly 182 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: producers and exporters of everything after World War Two, and 183 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: we had a huge incentive to push an idea of 184 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: free trade. Right. We wanted everybody to lower their tariffairs. 185 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: We wanted to integrate the global community in trade, because hey, 186 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: when goods don't cross borders, soldiers will, as Friedrich Bostiat, 187 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: one of my favorite economists, always said, And so hey, 188 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: we pushed free trade. We integrated the world in commerce. 189 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: The United States was the monopoly producer and exporter of everything, 190 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: and you know, giving basically access to our consumer market 191 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: in the United States. It was a way to get 192 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: countries on our side in the Cold War as well. Right, 193 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 4: choose the United States, you get to sell the richest 194 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: people in the world. Choose the Soviets. We're locking you out. 195 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 4: And so over time, hey, trade barriers fall, we you know, 196 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: integrate the global community. But where things really started to 197 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: get crazy, I think and start affecting basically the middle 198 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: class or normal people in the United States was abster 199 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 4: the fall of the Soviet Union. You know, then ten 200 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: years after that China joins the WTO. When you think 201 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: about it big picture, like americot got access to all 202 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: this cheap labor and materials in a really short period 203 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 4: of time. We had the Internet, we had container shipping, 204 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: to the arbitrage at all. And so this is the 205 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: period like nineteen ninety to let's say twenty twenty, where 206 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: globalization goes into overdrive. We're basically outsourcing all our industrial 207 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: capacity to the rest of the world. The idea in 208 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: like maybe elite circles was, hey, let's take advantage of 209 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: all this cheap labor. We'll build up, like the middle classes, 210 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: a broad at the expense of our own middle class, 211 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: and it's great for us, it's great for our profits, 212 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: and hey, we'll give people cheap consumer goods. Kind of 213 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: on the other end, that was sort of the deal. 214 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: And at the time, remember it's like the unipolar moment, right, 215 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 4: there's no other major superpower to confront the United States, 216 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: So this felt like kind of a safe thing to do. 217 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: So value do we outsource a lot of our manufacturing 218 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: and things like electronics or automobiles or whatever. We also 219 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: outsourced manufacturer of like the entire defense industrial base, right wow, 220 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: And so I think now it's it's a reverse of this. 221 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: Right like thirty years the middle class has had to 222 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: compete with somebody in China making ten percent as much 223 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: an hour. Their wages really haven't grown because of this. 224 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: And on top of that, COVID exposed huge geopolitical risks 225 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: in our supply chains. And so now I think basically 226 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: both of these are playing in here. On one hand, 227 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: You've got a lot of people that are worry about 228 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: national security, that want to bring certain critical industries back 229 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: to the United States. And certainly a huge part of 230 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's base was people voting for him as like 231 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: a backlash against globalization or elites essentially, you know, shipping 232 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: our industrial base overseas, profiting from it at the expense 233 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: of domestic labor. So it all sort of ties together, 234 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 4: to be honest, and it's a it's a really interesting 235 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: and basically long running story for the United States as 236 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: a superpower. 237 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I love how you frame the context that this is 238 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: you know, this has been manufactured. 239 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: As a result of our own policy, right. 240 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know, really giving people, especially 241 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: younger people, young young men out there that are trying 242 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: to find, you know, where am I going to find 243 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: my next job? Because for the last fifteen years, everybody's 244 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: been like, oh, learn to code. 245 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Well guess what, AI's going to. 246 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: Destroy it out. 247 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: But they're out, They're gone, And so it's like, all right, 248 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: well what do I do? And if you, if you, 249 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: if you pay attention to one of my favorite people 250 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: on a planet, dirty Jobs Mike row you know, with 251 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: with close to seven hundred and fifty thousand available jobs 252 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: with h FAX plumbers, the whole thing, it's like, yeah, 253 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: but we we also need that ability for these people 254 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: to to to compete, eat in all those different places, right, 255 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: to be able to you know, begin their own businesses 256 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: so that they can im creuse some wealth and get 257 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: in the markets potentially. But I also know that and 258 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: based on just listening to you for last three years, 259 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: is is COVID really reset this in a way I 260 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: think people don't quite understand and the necessity of it, 261 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: right with the exposure of the supply chain issues, but 262 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: more importantly for from from what I understand is is 263 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: you know that one point what seven trillion dollar infusion 264 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: of money flooding into our our system. 265 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: You know, how does that radical shift in. 266 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: The M two number, How does that get us to 267 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: a place where you know, maybe the markets were going 268 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: to reset anyways, you know, or or you know, and 269 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: that this whole focus on tariffs might not be as 270 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: wealth founded as a lot of you know, the pundits 271 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: are making it believe, making us beleeve. 272 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I we just went through the worst inflation 273 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: in forty years in the United States, and I just 274 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: think it's as an issue, been massively overcomplicated since the 275 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: COVID pandemic. Inflation is really pretty simple. At the end 276 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: of the day, it's just too much money chasing too 277 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: few goods. And so during COVID, we printed five trillion 278 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: dollars and then we shut down the global production system. Right, 279 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: there's just fewer goods and more dollars. So it's the 280 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: most textbook example of what would cause a surge in 281 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: inflation in the United States. Since then, inflation's improved a lot. 282 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: It's because we stopped printing money and we reopened the economy, right, 283 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: so it's pretty simple stuff. But with regards to like 284 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: the market correction we're having headed into this year, we're 285 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: at a company called First Trust. We're like the only 286 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: ones calling for a market correction on anyone on Wall Street. 287 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of people have changed their forecasts now, 288 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: but you know, profits and interest rates are what drive 289 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: the market evaluations over time, and so we went from 290 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: being bullish on the market since like eighth nine to 291 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 4: change in our tune. And it's really just because interest 292 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: rates rose so much, and interest rates rose a lot 293 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: because we had the highest inflation in forty years, and 294 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: the Fed had to respond, right, and so COVID certainly 295 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: reset a lot of things. It reset not only the 296 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: economy or with all the reshoring, it changed the status 297 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: quo around globalization. It also changed, I guess a lot 298 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: of preconceived notions about the stock market. And there was 299 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: this idea Dave called the Fed put that has existed 300 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: for the past thirty years when we had a bond 301 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 4: bull market, which means interest rates were falling since the 302 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: early nineteen eighties, that anytime there was a problem in 303 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: the economy or in the stock market, the Federal Reserve 304 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: would come in and cut interest rates and save the day. Right, 305 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: and now the problem is, hey, they caused the worst 306 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: inflation in forty years. They basically have to sit on 307 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: the sidelines. Now they're not going to be able to 308 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: come to the rescue anymore. I think still a lot 309 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: of investors, and I travel around the country talking to 310 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 4: investors every day, a lot of investors had not been 311 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: able to, you know, essentially integrate this into their their 312 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: mindset that the Fed's not coming to rescue you. It's 313 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 4: just kind of Hey, that's why we're in the wild West. 314 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: That's why we have all this volatility happening. We got 315 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: to figure out our issues with the government budget, We 316 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 4: got to figure out inflation, we got to figure out 317 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: supply chains, and you know, we can't just print money 318 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: to solve our issues anymore. 319 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. 320 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a market correction that you all been 321 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: predicting for a while, right, and because what tech? Those 322 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: seven tech companies they can't care continue carrying us. 323 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: But is it the idea? 324 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Do you believe that the idea with Trump and the 325 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: administration is that if we put these tariffs out there 326 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: on the global economy, we give our producers of goods 327 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: and a much greater opportunity to get back in the game, 328 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: to get back. 329 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: In the fight. 330 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: And then also what he's he's I just read yesterday 331 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: that he's brought in seven trillion dollars of investment. I mean, 332 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: I think somebody in the Middle East brought has committed 333 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: a trillion dollars. 334 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: Now, that's all commitments. That's all like a lot of like, hey, 335 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: look at me on TV. 336 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm we're behind Trump because we either don't want to 337 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: get bombed or we want to work with them, you know. 338 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: And it's like, all right, it is is this the 339 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: push that you believe is feasible that this well take 340 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: place eventually? Or could it cost some more catastrophic outcomes? 341 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'll touch you on the tariffs in a second, 342 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: but I'll just say, like, reshorting to the United States, 343 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 4: I think is happening regardless of if we have tariffs 344 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 4: or not. Okay, I think tarriffs obviously incentivized it to 345 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 4: happened faster. But the reality is, you know, COVID hits Okay, 346 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: it makes everybody question the status quo on globalization. It 347 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: was sort of a republican issue or like a maga 348 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: issue until COVID hit and then nobody could buy pa 349 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: you know, toilet paper and baby for formula, and now 350 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 4: everybody agrees, hey, this is a problem. It's very by 351 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 4: part is an issue. We passed the chipsacked the Inflation 352 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: Reduction Act to incentivize reshorting. Under Joe Biden. Okay, factory 353 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: construction is tripled in two years in the United States. 354 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: So this is. 355 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 4: Concretely happening in a very fast way. And so some 356 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: people I think still look at this is like, hey, 357 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 4: it's government policy or it's just like a response to COVID. 358 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: And what I really like try to emphasize to people 359 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: and why I've been talking about this since twenty sixteen 360 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: is just we went abroad and globalization. Part of it, 361 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: right is you know, world peace or the American Empire 362 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: or fighting the Soviets or whatever. But a huge part 363 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: of this stage. 364 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: I love how you just I love that you just 365 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: brush over. 366 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: We can touch on all that if you want, but 367 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: not in this one. 368 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: Not I get you on in a week or two 369 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll dig into that, right, But. 370 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: Like, really like the huge thing that's and like here's 371 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 4: the thing, Like there's always rhetoric. There's always like a 372 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 4: you know, like a nice story we paint as a 373 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: veneer on top of like our economic interest a lot 374 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: of times. So I think the reality is the economic 375 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: interest behind globalization for the United States was an abundance 376 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: of cheap labor right all over the world. And the 377 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: reality is if you look at demographics globally, demographics are 378 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 4: peaking basically everywhere. Right China's population is going to fall 379 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 4: by forty percent through the end of the century. Wow, 380 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: South Korea is going to be like ninety percent of 381 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: the South Koreans are going to be gone by you know, 382 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: twenty one hundred or something. 383 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 384 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: Thing in Eastern Europe, same thing in Vietnam, same thing 385 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: in all these places. And so what I would just 386 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 4: emphasize to people, and we'll talk about tariffs in a second, 387 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: is just the cheap labor is going away no matter what, okay, 388 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: And so if the supply goes down, the price goes up, 389 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: and so it doesn't make sense to make things in 390 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: China anymore. That's that's the real issue. And in a 391 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 4: lot of other places. And so the United States we 392 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: consume everything for the whole world, and We're looking at 393 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: this and saying, if we don't get the cheap labor 394 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: out of it, like, what's even the point of this deal. 395 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: We can just make it ourselves. So reshooring is going 396 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: to continue to happen no matter what, in my opinion, 397 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: because the cheap labor is going away. Now, how that's cool. 398 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: The tariffs, okay, are like the government policy around this 399 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 4: is an effort to basically get out front of this 400 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: trend and kind of control it from the front instead 401 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: of kind of getting pulled along from behind by like 402 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: the broader macroeconomic trying to peaking demographics. Okay, So tariffs, 403 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: what they do? You just tax stuff at the border 404 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: as it gets imported, and by doing that you make 405 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: it artificially more expensive. And so say, like you know, 406 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: the US Defense Department wants to put semiconductors in it's 407 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: like drones or hellfire missiles or whatever, and they're looking 408 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: at who's an option. Maybe Intel will sell you that 409 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 4: chip for fifty bucks, and maybe TSMC will sell it 410 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: to you for forty bucks if you tear off the 411 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: semiconductor at the border at twenty five percent. Now they're 412 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: the exact same price domestically for the Defense Department to buy. 413 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: They're probably going to go with the American maker Intel instead, 414 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: or TSMC could say, Hey, the Defense Department's a pretty 415 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 4: important client for us, maybe we should just build a 416 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 4: factory in the United States and that way you don't 417 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 4: have to worry about the tariffs anyway. And so the 418 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: reality is here, guy, is like, we have the huge 419 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: domestic market. We buy everything from the entire world basically, 420 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: and so we can throw our weight around a little 421 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: bit here and say, hey, we want more stuff made 422 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: in the United States. I don't think it's the end 423 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: of the world. It's interesting you mention all these like 424 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: investment commitments, Dave, because I was just on my Bloomberg 425 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: terminal this morning and there's a bunch of economists talking about, Hey, 426 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: this tariff war is going to cause like a global recession, 427 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 4: and I don't I wouldn't be surprised if it hurts China, right, 428 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: or it hurts like Malaysia or something. It probably will, frankly, 429 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: But the reality is, you know, they're saying, hey, companies 430 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 4: are going to pull back investment because of uncertainty in 431 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 4: the United States, and I would just really question that 432 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: assumption because the reality is again, factory construction is tripled 433 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: in two years in the United States. You have now 434 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: six trillion dollars or whatever of committed investment from different people. 435 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: It hasn't been spent. I got it. It's You're right, 436 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 4: a lot of it is pr but like it looks 437 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: to me like the tariffs are causing a huge wave 438 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 4: of investment by basically every observable metric. So I would 439 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: be very skeptical of claims that, hey, we're about to 440 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: go into recession because of tariffs in the United States. 441 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you for saying that. 442 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: Now. 443 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: The one thing that obviously not obviously, but the thing 444 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: that kind of like the fact that we're we're we've 445 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: been at the precipice of a bear market for a while. 446 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, who's going to get hurt by that? Right? 447 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: And the people that I think, for me, that I 448 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: worry most about are the people that are in all 449 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: those state pension funds, those federal pension funds. What do 450 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: you say to them with these market fluctuations, what do 451 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: you say to them in terms of, you know, whether 452 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: they're freaking out Because a lot of these people are 453 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: obviously on fixed income they're not sure. You know, these 454 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: investments are are the way with which they live. What 455 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: are you going to say to reassure these people that, hey, 456 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: this is a relatively short term thing in terms of 457 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: the over that I love. The one chart that you 458 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: guys always show is about, you know, how long recessions 459 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: actually last, the impact they have. 460 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: What advice do you give to those people. 461 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: That you know have their entire net worth in these 462 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: pension funds. 463 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can touch on recession if you want 464 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: to in a second, because personally, I don't think we're 465 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: going to have a recession, but certainly the market has 466 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: had a correction here, Okay, I think we're down, like 467 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: on the S and P five hundred 're down twelve 468 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: or thirteen percent from the peak. Okay, And so guy, honestly, 469 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: I mean, if you just look at some of the 470 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: math on corrections in the stock market, this doesn't look 471 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 4: that scary, just to be honest, Okay, we get a 472 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: ten percent correction in the United States, like every eight months, 473 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: we get like a fifteen percent correction in the stock 474 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: market every I think sixteen months. We got a twenty 475 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 4: percent correction basically every three years. If you just look 476 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 4: at like the last one hundred years of the stock market, 477 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 4: right so, I don't look at what's happening right now 478 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: is really anything outside the ordinary. Again, I think we 479 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: came into the tear overvalued on the stock market just 480 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: based on profits and interest rates, and so I was 481 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 4: sort of expecting a correction. 482 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: Now. 483 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: Tariffs have added uncertainty and they've kind of been a 484 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: catalyst one hundred percent. But when I look at like 485 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: the fundamentals of the US economy, I don't see like 486 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: any of the five hundred wealthiest you know, companies in 487 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: the country going out of business because of tariffs, right so, 488 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: And like the earnings picture, I think the stock market's 489 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 4: earnings are going to go up this year still, uh so, 490 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 4: there might be some margin pressure from labor or tariffs 491 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: or whatever, But big picture here, you know, I think 492 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 4: this is a stock market, correct. I don't think this 493 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: is the end of the world. I think the problem, 494 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: Dave is we all have smartphones in our pockets and 495 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: the media ecosystem and by the way, we're on a podcast, 496 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: it's long form. This is an effort to combat like 497 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: the disease of short form information, Okay, but to get 498 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 4: eyeballs you basically present negative information because it's ten times 499 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: you know, as effective at getting eyeballs as positive information. 500 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: You make things as dramatic as possible. And so hey, 501 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: stock market correction, Trump Tariff's end of the world. Like, 502 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, I personally think we're not going to 503 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 4: be talking about the stock market in like six months. 504 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: I just I think Donald Trump's back in office, a 505 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: correction's happened. This is not outside like empirically normal behavior 506 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: in the stock market at all. 507 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: Awesome. 508 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that answers a lot of the other 509 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: questions that I was having. Is obviously your your beliefs. 510 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: It's not going to have a dramatic effect on the 511 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: US economy. But you did mention the effect on China 512 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: some other Southeast Asian countries, could disaffect European Union. Could 513 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: it affect the bricks countries? I mean, how is it 514 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: going to impact them? 515 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I guess first I'll start out by just saying, like, 516 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: let me contrast the United States is some of these 517 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 4: other places, quick, okay, because the reality is we have 518 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: a very self sufficient economy already in terms of like 519 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 4: overall economic activity back in like the eighteen hundreds, or 520 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: in World War One or whatever. We're an agricultural economy 521 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: and an industrial economy. We basically depend on exports for 522 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: a lot of our GDP, right, we make stuff and 523 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: shipping around the world. Today, Like seventy percent of the 524 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: US economy is services. It's me getting on a podcast 525 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: with you, somebody giving me accounting advice, me buying software, 526 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: you know, those types of getting a haircut. That's seventy 527 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: percent of consumer spending. So only thirty percent of consumer 528 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: spending is goods at all, and only a third of 529 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: those goods are actually imported goods. And so we're talking 530 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: about ten percent of consumer spending that's actually directly affected 531 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: by tariffs. And by the way, like I don't think 532 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 4: most people know thirty percent of our imports are from 533 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: Canada and Mexico, even though we talking about twenty five 534 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: percent tariffs on all of them. And there's been all 535 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 4: this debate around Canada Mexico, like the vast majority of 536 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: what they import to the United States comes in duty 537 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: free because of USMCA, we're not actually tariffing very much 538 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: from Canada Mexico right now, which I don't think is 539 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: renegotiated NAFTA we did it in Donald Trump's first from 540 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: the office. 541 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: Got it. Got it? 542 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 4: Okay. So you know, if you look at it, like 543 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: literally seven percent of like consumer spending is actually affected 544 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 4: by tariffs right now, So it's pretty small. The best estimates. 545 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: I like to look at the Tax Foundation. They're very 546 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: anti tax, anti tariff think tank. By the way, I'm 547 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: not cherry picking things. They say the tariffs that have 548 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: been instituted will have a negative point eight percent impact 549 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: on GDP. Wow, not even a one percent decline. 550 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 551 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: COVID was minus ten percent, the oeight to nine financial 552 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: crisis was minus five percent to GDP. So we're talking 553 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: a fraction of those things. And again I think they're 554 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: modeling a worst case scenario that does not include a 555 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: huge booming investment because of the tariffs. Okay. So I'll 556 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: start out there and say the America, we're just not 557 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: really that dependent on foreign trade for the overall economy. Okay. 558 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 4: When you contrast that with like China for example, or 559 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: Germany for example, or say like Vietnam or Malaysia, those 560 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: economies or Japan, those economies are very export dependent. They 561 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: produce a lot and export it and then they have 562 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: a very high savings rate. They don't actually consume all 563 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 4: that they produce, right, Whereas we're the opposite. We have 564 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: a high consumption rate in a low savings right, and 565 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: we buy from the rest of the world. So if 566 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: we just start making more for ourselves. 567 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: That's all those late night Amazon purchases, right. 568 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, which are about to get a lot more expensive. 569 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: By the way, Like you look at the total teub 570 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: on China is like sixty percent right. 571 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: Now, which oh my god, insane. 572 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: But you know, the big picture is, yeah, they need 573 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: to export to us because we're the ones that buy everything. 574 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: And so what is Germany going to do? What are 575 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: what's China going to do? What's Japan gonna do if 576 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: they lose their biggest export market. Basically, they got to 577 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: start making more stuff for their own people and people 578 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: actually have to go out and spend money there, and 579 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: that's you get a little bit more balanced economy. So 580 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 4: I think that's what China has to do here. They 581 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: just got to actually make things for their own own 582 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: people and boost their own people's like standard of living, 583 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: and that's been talked about for years and they just 584 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: haven't been able to do it. 585 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: So what I mean, this sounds like actually, I mean, 586 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: obviously the way I kind of view the world is 587 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: through a geostrategic mindset, right, just from my background, this 588 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: actually sounds like it could be a very positive impact 589 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: on gaining a greater leverage against China as it relates 590 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 1: to all the little you know, the little chirping we 591 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: hear are out there about war in Taiwan and semiconductors. 592 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: And all this stuff. 593 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this sounds like we can gain a pretty 594 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: significant amount of leverage against China, especially with the fact 595 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: that you know, their economy, if I'm not mistaken, is 596 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: not great anyways. 597 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: Correct, Well, yeah, so China. You know, their economy grew 598 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 4: ten percent a year for decades, right because one, their 599 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 4: demographics were booming and there's a lot more people every year. 600 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: And two they just imported technology from the rest of 601 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: the world. Maybe that's like a polite way to say it, right, 602 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 4: They stole a lot of technology too, right, So the 603 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 4: combination of that makes GDP boom. You go from like 604 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: an ox Dron carriage to like a John Deere tractor 605 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: in your field. You have to invent that, you just 606 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 4: import it from the rest of the world, right, And 607 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: so the problem China has now is Okay, all of 608 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: a sudden, other demographics have peaked and started to decline 609 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: because of the one child policy and a bunch of 610 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: other stuff that goes into like the nitty gritty of demographics. 611 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: But on top of that, they're in a trade war 612 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: with like basically the whole world. Okay, so US tariffs, 613 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: I know this is like in the news right now, Okay, 614 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: but China's just been in a giant trade war with 615 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: Europe in the past year. Europe put one hundred percent 616 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 4: tariff on Chinese electric cars. Wowkay, So you know they're 617 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: losing export markets everywhere. Basically everyone's saying, hey, we don't 618 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 4: want to export like our high technology stuff to China 619 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: anymore because we don't trust them. And so China's getting 620 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: whacked not only on demographics, but they're getting whacked on 621 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: technology access too, And so yeah, there are economies in 622 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: huge trouble. In my opinion, people might have heard of 623 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: like the ever Grande real estate collapse. Basically, normal Chinese 624 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 4: people don't get access to the stock market. Okay, you 625 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: got like a bank account, or you can buy real estate. 626 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: That's how you invest, Okay, So everybody went out and 627 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 4: bought like these condos, or they'd like take out a 628 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 4: mortgage for like a building that wasn't even built yet. 629 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: The ghost cities, right, yeah, the ghost cities. 630 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: And now everybody over there is looking around and saying 631 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 4: there's going to be forty percent less people in like 632 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: sixty years. Who am I supposed to sell this condo to? 633 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: Right? 634 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 4: So what's happened is all the real estate values are crashing. 635 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: It's like two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine 636 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: one steroids over there. So China's a huge trouble. They've 637 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 4: got a lot of problems. 638 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Wow, that that's now, I think, you know, that's the 639 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: context that that that most people are are as you said, 640 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's your you know how fast you're 641 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: screaming through X right now. 642 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: To be able to stop. 643 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: And and and give this some some context is significant. 644 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: And that's why I love listening to you as much 645 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: as I do. Dude, you just are you have that 646 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: breadth of knowledge. So all right, the last question for 647 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: this segment. You know, and obviously we're going to have 648 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: additional segments if for those who want to, you know, 649 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: follow us on Patreon and some other places. You know, 650 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: but for this segment right now, what I what I 651 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: really want to do is kind of end with you know, 652 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: taking the opposing side for you for a second. And 653 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: and and really say, all right, all right, Bryce, your 654 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: advice European Union leaders right now, you're advising the IMF, 655 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: you're advising the bricks nations, right what do. 656 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: You tell them on. 657 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: How to evaluate this or how to combat this or 658 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 1: what are you saying to those groups of people right now? 659 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say, hey, listen, the Americans have had unilaterally 660 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: low tariff barriers for a long time. They've really benefited 661 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 4: from globalization. We all have. And the reality is when 662 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 4: we look out there, a lot of the economic underpinnings 663 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: of globalization are starting to fall apart. Some of our 664 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: biggest export markets in the European Union are like Russia 665 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: and China, and we've become reliant on potentially some like 666 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 4: geopolitically unstable you know, sources of income. And so I 667 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: think we're basically at a point where, hey, it's like 668 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 4: America is telling you to choose. It's either you choose 669 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: China or you choose the West. 670 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 671 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: And so I don't envy Europe for this decision. I mean, 672 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 4: they're in a tough place. By the way, they're the 673 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: Middle Continent, right, they're between east and West, and so 674 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: they've always been. But I think we need to come 675 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 4: to some type of agreement with Europe. Maybe it's that 676 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 4: they take care of more of their own defense and 677 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: we make some deals on like you know, the auto 678 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: industry tariffs or other kind of non tariff barriers. But 679 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: I would advise Europe to probably make a deal with 680 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: the United States. I think the United States has a 681 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 4: lot of natural advantages. I think we have a lot 682 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: more values in common than Europe does. And given the 683 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: way like the real world's reshaping, there's like a rising 684 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 4: eastern block. Again, which side does Europe want to be on? 685 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 4: Do they want to be on the side of the 686 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: United States and the West or on the East. And 687 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 4: they'll probably kind of play both sides to some extent. 688 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 4: I don't again forgrudge them for that, given their geographical location. 689 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: But this is what this tariff announcement by Donald Trump is. 690 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: It's basically saying, hey, we have our core of North America, USMCA, 691 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 4: and now we're going after everybody else and saying make 692 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 4: a choice. It's the United States or it's China. And 693 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 4: you know, Peru, if you want to export all your 694 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 4: fruit from the Sacred Valley up to Texas in the 695 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: grocery stores, then you can't hire China to build all 696 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 4: your infrastructure. It's not going to work like that anymore. 697 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 4: You can't have your cake and eat it to pick 698 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: a side. So I think we're gonna have to pick 699 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: a side. 700 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: Basically, this is like, this is the greatest news that 701 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: I think people could hear, right is is this is 702 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: finally giving us a little bit more leverage by our 703 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: using our economy, the economic engine of America, which. 704 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: Is by far the greatest on the planet. 705 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: And don't let any of these little squawk boxers over 706 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: here and over here detract you from that. The reality 707 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: is is we have the greatest economic machine that has 708 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: ever been created in human history. And this is part 709 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: of that plan to regain that whole thing. All right, Bryce, man, 710 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: I you know before I I let you go for this, 711 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: this spart right now, is I just want I gotta 712 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: have you give your advice. All right, what's the best 713 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: sub gun that's out there? And it could just describe 714 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: what makes you happy when you're on the range and 715 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: you're going big with a subgun. 716 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 4: Man, the best sub gun out there right now? That's 717 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: such a good question. I mean, honestly, I've just am 718 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 4: a sucker for the classics. 719 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: Man. 720 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 4: I think I like the MP five K the best 721 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: of anything. I wish they would like remake it with 722 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 4: maybe a bigger magwell funnel and maybe a little bit 723 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 4: better ergonomics on the grip and stuff. But anybody that 724 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 4: needs like a bolt release on their gun, like everything 725 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 4: doesn't have to be an Air fifteen. That's kind of 726 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: how I feel about it. The you know, the aesthetics 727 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 4: of the MP five, the ergonomics of the MP five 728 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 4: pulling back the charging head of locking it in, charging 729 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: a new mag and doing the slap like, it's so enjoyable. 730 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: So I would vote the MP five K. Honestly, I 731 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 4: think it's still the best subgun there is. 732 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: There's just there's a there's a different level of h 733 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: TAC tech. What the tac tiledness of the MP five right, 734 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: as well as the accuracy that's son of a bitch, man. 735 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: It's like my favorite gun I've ever shot as well too, man, 736 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: and you just can't beat it in the house for sure, 737 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: that's right, right man? 738 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: Uh, where can people find you? Where they? Where? 739 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: You know? 740 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: Again, who do you work for? Where can people find you? 741 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: And and just uh, you know what do you have 742 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: coming up in your life right now? 743 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? So if you want to find my work, I'm 744 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: an economist of a company called First Trust Portfolios. You 745 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 4: can search the first Trust Economics Blog. We post everything 746 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 4: we write there, which is basically any economic data that 747 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: comes out. We're writing updates on it. All that stuff 748 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 4: is available for free. Everything's one page, easy to read, 749 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 4: easy to share. So I think those a great resource. 750 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 4: You can just search my name in Google. I do 751 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: a lot of interviews like this. They're kind of all 752 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: over the internet. I've also got an exic as well. 753 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 4: It's Daddy Fat stats. 754 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: Wich. 755 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 4: If anybody's an outcast fan, it's a big boy, right, 756 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 4: Daddy fat Stacks. But because I look at data, it's 757 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: Daddy Fat Stats. 758 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: Dude. I love you so much, it's not even funny. 759 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I. 760 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, ladies and gentlemen, mister Bryce Gil, thank you, brother. 761 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thanks, welcome back. 762 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 4: Now. 763 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: If if you were like me and you just listen 764 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: to Bryce Gil you're blown away because the data that 765 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: he shared with us is undeniable. And what it proves 766 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: is that America still is and and my estimation will 767 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: always be what the benchmark economy world is well, at 768 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: least if if we can maintain our prowess as what 769 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: as not only the most financially sound with our markets 770 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: and our whatever, but because of the companies that keep 771 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: America going, because of those companies that set the standard 772 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: for production. Uh and then also because of the initiative 773 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: that that Trump and his cabinet are going to do 774 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: with these tariffs, which is to bring back the industrialized 775 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: might of America. And if we can do that, then 776 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: guess what. Then you and your wife, you and your friends, 777 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: You're going to have a well paying job that delivers 778 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: a powerful pension, that delivers you opportunity to have the 779 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: American dream, which is to you know, have a wife, 780 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 1: have children, or or have a job that pays you well, 781 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: that enables you to have a house and a community 782 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: that's that's supportive and really kind of to reshape what 783 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: the Mamerican myth uh at what we should call now 784 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: the American myth back into the actualization of the American 785 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: dream and that's possible, and it's possible if you get committed. 786 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: So I just I'm blown away. 787 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: Jordi, what do you think about Bryce Man? I mean, 788 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: if did he impact you? 789 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 2: I mean you're a young man. 790 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: Did he get you all fired up on how bad 791 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: ass America is? 792 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely? 793 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: Also, I just never. 794 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 6: Heard some of the facts that he was talking about. 795 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 6: Like I thought it was interesting him saying that the 796 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 6: onshooring is there's a wave of onshooring in America that's happening, 797 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 6: you know, with the tariffs, without the tariffs, Like this 798 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 6: is just in the country's blood right now, and there's 799 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 6: a there's a big movement behind that, and it just 800 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 6: kind of shows how important that is. 801 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: Man. 802 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: I learned a lot and I love that that that's 803 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: the positive outlook of of what happened from COVID. If 804 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: if you know, other than you know, millions of people 805 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: out there getting red pilled for or you know, the 806 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: reality is is that we've come to the realization that 807 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: we cannot count on the supply chain from China, and 808 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: what we are going to do is we're going to 809 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: count on our own supply chain. We're going to start 810 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: to build America, right, building a made in America is 811 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: going to be a real thing instead of assembled in America, 812 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: which drives me nuts, but it is what it is, 813 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: right all right. So you know, one of the cool 814 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: aspects that we really want to do at the end, 815 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: the final kind of segment or closing segment. And and 816 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: thanks to Jeordi being the musician that you are, buddy, 817 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna call this the coda section. 818 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 2: Now describe this a little bit more. 819 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: What is a code of for these folks and for 820 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: all you don't know, Jordi is a musician at heart. 821 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 2: He's a true artist, just like me. So, Jeordie, what's 822 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: a coda? 823 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 6: Well, if I can remember back to my music school education, 824 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 6: the coda is the ending section of a musical piece, 825 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 6: and it's oftentimes a little bit different than anything else 826 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 6: you heard in that composition. 827 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 4: And so there's the whole piece, it's. 828 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 6: Going through its peaks and valleys, and then it's like 829 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 6: a little bonus at the end that they hit you 830 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 6: with right before you go. So that's what this section is. 831 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 6: I thought it's a good name. Bring back some multiple 832 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 6: music terms. 833 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: You know, let's go led Zeppelin, all right, that's just 834 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: my gen X right there. And maybe I'll review led 835 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: Zeppelin in the future in one of the code sections 836 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: that would be apropo. But in this one, what we 837 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: want to do is we're going to call it the 838 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: Vintage hard Story, right, and what we want to we 839 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 1: want to highlight are the people who were those old 840 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: school people who worked in the steel mills, who built 841 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: the skyscrapers in New York and Chicago and all over 842 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: the place that really exemplified the industrial might of the 843 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: American worker. 844 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: Right. Those are the people right with their. 845 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: Dirty hands and their bad backs and the covered and 846 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: soot from the coal mines. 847 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: You know, those are the men of. 848 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: This country that we owe a profound amount of a 849 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: debt and gratitude because we would not be here without them. Jordi, 850 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: pull up, pull up that one picture of the steel 851 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: mill there. 852 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go and boom oh man. 853 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: So you look at that and you look at those 854 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: dudes right there. Man, do you know how hot that 855 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: furnace was? Do you know how heavy those those steel 856 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 1: pokers were? Do you know do you realize that those 857 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: long shifts twelve hours in a steel mill and what 858 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: that does to your body, what it does to your focus. 859 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: How dangerous all that was. But you know what, those 860 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: men woke up. They didn't bitch, they didn't complain, they 861 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: didn't they weren't angry because why because they were making 862 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: a good living. They were able to support their families. 863 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: They were able to send their kids to college, the 864 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: first kids to ever go to college ever. 865 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: And those jobs were real jobs. 866 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: That made an impact that changed America for what it 867 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: is today. Well not totally what is, but what built America, 868 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: what it's become is a whole nother thing that will 869 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: get into it. Another code of session. All right, Well, 870 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: how about my other favorite? What, Jordy, what was the 871 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: other one we talked about? 872 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: That other great one is the classic one right here? 873 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: The god is. 874 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 6: That what your lunch break looks like? 875 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 2: Not since military. 876 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: For sure, but now, I mean you you look at 877 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: those guys and they're having lunch. What a couple maybe 878 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: five hundred feet up in the air, uh and probably 879 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: a stage photograph, but the representation of what it is. 880 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: And you got another one for me of guys actually 881 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: doing work up there. 882 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 6: Here's them just hanging out up there doing some work. 883 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 2: That's right. I don't I don't see many safety lines. 884 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: Right, I don't see a hard hat, I don't see anything. 885 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: What I see is just sheer, courage and determination right 886 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: to build something out of nothing. 887 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 2: And that's what we need. We need people. 888 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: Especially you young folks out there. We need young men 889 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: out there. We need you to stand up and say, 890 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: you know what you know. I need to get my 891 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: hands dirty, I need to strengthen my back. I need 892 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: to build something. And if you don't want to go 893 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 1: work for anybody out there, a big construction conglomerate managed 894 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: by some private equity firm, that's whatever, then start your 895 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: own construction company. I mean, I've got a guy who 896 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: lives cross street from me, my neighbor, who you know, 897 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: I love, dearly man. This young man is, you know, 898 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: just thirty years old, and he works seven days a week, 899 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: and he works for a local builder and he's out 900 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: there managing fourteen fifteen building projects at his age. And 901 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: a guy works his butt off, and so that gives 902 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: me hope. But that's available out there to young people, 903 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: and you just have to feel the inspiration for taking 904 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: hold of your future with your bare hands. And that's 905 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: a powerful thing to do. So what I if I 906 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: can just inspire you man, to go back and sit 907 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,479 Speaker 1: with those stories of of of those men and women 908 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: who'll build America in particularly those hard men that were 909 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: on those skyscrapers, that wear those steel mills, and in 910 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: those coal mines and out on those oil platforms. And 911 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: they're still out there, but their numbers are dwindling. And 912 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: so man, if you have any aspiration of being hard 913 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: and really getting in and making the America great again, 914 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: we need you to roger up and step into the fight, 915 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: if you will, to step on on that ledge with 916 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,479 Speaker 1: your toes dangling, with your safety strap and your hard 917 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: hat on, and to help us build America. 918 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 2: All right, that's my thing. Now. 919 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: If you've enjoyed this show, you enjoyed what we're bringing 920 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: to you, please don't forget to like the show right, 921 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: make a comment, right, subscribe to the podcast, share it 922 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,479 Speaker 1: with five of your friends or two of your friends. 923 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to be like one of those lame 924 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: like threads. Man. 925 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: If you share this thing with ten of your friends, 926 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna make a million dollars in thirty days. I 927 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: can't pro promise you that, but what I can promise 928 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: you that if they're red blooded Americans. They're going to 929 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: listen to this, they're gonna get fired up, and they're 930 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna feel good about what our future looks like. 931 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: And that's what we want to do here on this podcast. 932 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: So like subscribe, we're available on the entire place, all 933 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 1: social media, all the different places you can consume content. 934 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: You can follow us at David Rutherford Show and that's 935 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: on YouTube, Instagram, Patreon, rumble tic Tech, all the podcast apps, Apple, Spotify, 936 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: all of them out there, and then if you want 937 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: to follow the show on x it's at d Rutherford Show. 938 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: At d Rutherford Show. It seems some some poor sap 939 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: out there stole the rest of it from me, but 940 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: that's all right. We'll get it one of these days hopefully. 941 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: And if you want to follow me on all social media, platfs. 942 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: My personal stuff is at Team frog Logic. It's David 943 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: Rutherford at Team frog Logic all right. Also too, this 944 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: is a big one. 945 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 2: Listen. 946 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: We're dependent and independent media. We are dependent on you 947 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: for much of our for all of our success, but sometimes, 948 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: and more importantly, we're also dependent upon you to reach 949 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: out to us and share with us something that's got 950 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: you fired up. 951 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: If you've got a news story. 952 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: You know somebody that's got a story they can't get 953 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: it out on regular news channels or on other larger platforms. 954 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: We're not afraid to take a look at it. Please, 955 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: if you want to send any new story, idea or 956 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: someone special in interview, a hero, you know, someone who's 957 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: vintage arge, your grandpa, your uncle, your aunt, something like that, 958 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 1: or just some you know corruption that you've discovered in 959 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: your school system or at at your job, or wherever 960 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: it might be. Please, I want you to email Jordi 961 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: at David Rutherford dot com. That's Jordi at David Rutherford 962 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: dot com. And if your story is epic and it's great, 963 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you on the show. We're gonna interview, 964 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna let you tell your story to our audience 965 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: and to hope that we can help you and help 966 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: your endeavors. Also, if there's anything that you'd like me 967 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: to take a look at out there, do a deep 968 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: dive in. If you've got recommendations for things you'd like 969 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 1: to hear, please do the same. Go ahead and email Jordie. 970 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: That's j O. R. D Y at David Rutherford dot com. 971 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: All right, my man, what do you think Jordie is 972 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: at it for today? 973 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,479 Speaker 6: Good show, good show, I'm fired awesome, learned a lot, 974 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 6: Do it again next time. 975 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: You got it all right once again. 976 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: If you want to clear up the tsunami of information 977 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: out there, then you join me, because I'm gonna be 978 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: your flashbang of truth. 979 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 2: This is the David Rutherford Show. Oo yah man