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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. It is important to stop reading other people's

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Speaker 1: Please Welcome to Money Making Conversation. The anchor of ABC's

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Speaker 1: Davis Rushan, thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I try to get it all in. I try to

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