1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: I've never told you production if I heart radio. Okay, 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: it is time for another Monday man like that. Yeah, 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I will say in doing this outline, I may have 5 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: misspelled Monday and put Monday, which is very southern. It's 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: very southern. This is exactly how my mother would say it. 7 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: So every you know, I feel very very much in 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: tune with Mother's Day. I think I feel like I 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: was thinking about my mother, not necessarily about this topic 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: per se, but you know, just in pronunciation, it was 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: in the back of my head. That's that's what I 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: want to blame it on. So how did you spell it? 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Was that like a D e yu. No, I just 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: left out the A altogether. No way Monday mon, There's 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: no way. There's no way in existence. But today we 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: are talking about Title nine in the US, so a 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: quick trigger warning. We are going to talk a little 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: bit about sexual assault and rape, but we're not talking 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: specific so even though there's no actual examples that we're 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: going to talk about, it is very frustrating of a topic, 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I think, especially right now. So I did want to 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: let you guys know it is like I think most 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: of our stuff Monday Minies have been a little more serious, 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: uh than UM some of the other things that we 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: talk about. But and this one is a little more 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: on the nose about what's happening in the US today. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: So we want to do a quick review on what 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: is happening again with Title nine. Yes, and we wanted 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: to start with what is this um. According to the 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Department of Justice under the Office of Civil Rights Division, 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Title nine was signed on June twenty three, nineteen seventy two, 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: as the Title nine of the Education Amendments of nineteen 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: seventy two, which is a comprehensive federal law that prohibits 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: discriminate nation on the basis of sex and any federally 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: funded education program or activity. It was originally focused on athletics, 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: financial aid, and admissions, but of course it has expanded 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: since then to deal with issues concerning sexual harassment and 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: sexual violence, and later it included transgender rights and pregnant women. 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: So Title nine has over twenty amendments under it, which 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: has also been expanded to UH sexual misconduct and violence 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: against women, and a couple of amendments to know. The 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: first one would be the Clary Act, created after the 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: rape and murder of Gene Cleary, and was signed in 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety and requires public and private colleges and universities 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: to disclose information about certain crimes that occur on or 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: near a campus. UM. The Act applies to all colleges 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: and universities that receive any federal funding, including student financial aid. Yeah. 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: And I remember I went to UM Georgia Tech, the 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Georgia Institute of Technology, and at the time kind of 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: bordered a an area that where a lot of college 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: students lived. It was cheap, but a lot of crime 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: happened in that area. And I just remember like walking 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: on that stretch of Tenth Street, and like I swear, 54 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: almost every time I was walking down it alone at night, 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I would get a tech the school with Texas like 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: this had taken place on the street, and it was 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: just so upsetting and freight darning. Yeah. Right. Um. There's 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: also the Campus Save Act or the Campus Sexual Violence 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: Elimination Act, which was created in tween under the Obama administration. 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: It is an update to the Cleary Act that requires 61 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: more transparency in terms of reporting, response, prevention, education requirements 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: around sexual violence, domestic violence, and stalking. Right, So, while 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about this, we do want to give a 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: little history of what happened under the Obama administration. And 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: again this is there's a lot of things that happened, 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: and we know a lot of controversy had happened and 67 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of incidents that have happened on in the 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: school campuses. So in two thousand eleven, the Obama administration 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: sent out a Dear Colleague letter. It opens up some 70 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: clear communication for whomever is addressed to. So the Dear 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Colleague letter was specific to the Department of Education or 72 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Education Department e d sending out guidelines to explain that 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: the requirements of Title nine and how to cover sexual violence, 74 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: and to remind schools of their responsibilities to take immediate 75 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: and effective steps to respond to sexual violence in accordance 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: with the requirements of Title nine. The d c L 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: also gave specific guidelines and requirements for Title nine and 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: how they relate to sexual violence, such as the requirements 79 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: to publish a policy against sex discrimination, designate a Title 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: nine coordinator, and adopt and published grievance procedures. It also 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: discusses proactive efforts for schools to take to prevent sexual violence, 82 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: in as a part of the White Houses It's on 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: Us campaign to end sexual assault on college campuses. President 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Barack Obama described sexual assault as quote, in affront to 85 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: our basic decency and humanity, and the White House Task 86 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault issued guidelines to 87 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: colleges to combat rape. In response to similar federal guidelines 88 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: and incidents on campuses. Some colleges and universities have established 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: Title nine offices focused on education, training, and compliance around 90 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: sexual assault, as well as on the investigation and enforcement 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: of sexual misconduct claims. And just for your information, It's 92 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: on His campaign is still around um and is a 93 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: nonprofit that works to bring awareness and sexual assault prevention, 94 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: and it was created as a part of the amendments 95 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: of Title nine. So these are some things to keep 96 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind. There are also conversations 97 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: where there was a dispute saying that it was too 98 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: heavy leaning force victims and survivors and not for the accused. 99 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: So just a reminder, but what is happening now with 100 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: a turn of the administration in Secretary of Education Bessie 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: Divas quickly began making changes, stating, quote, the truth is 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: that the system established by the prior administration has felt 103 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: too many students, survivors, victims of a lack of do access, 104 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: and campus administrators have all told me that current approach 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: does a disservice to everyone involved. So again it came 106 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: in with how do we protect our boys? She did 107 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: actually say that comment, um, and there was a conversation 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: that it was too heavily on victims and did not 109 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: afford due process. At the same time, during the initial 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: rollbacks of Title nine and the d c L, Senator 111 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: Patty Murray stated, Secretary Divorce decided today to continue a 112 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: pattern undermining survivors rights, once again showing a clear lack 113 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: of understanding or empathy for the millions of students who 114 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: have experienced sexual violence on campus. Let's be clear, Secretary 115 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: Divorce just made an open invitation to colleges to once 116 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: again sweep this national epidemic under the RUG, which has 117 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: been a big fear for many of those who advocated 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: for the rights of student victims of sexual assault and violence. 119 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: So with Davos being the new Secretary, and with at 120 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: that point in time, the new Trump administration, the Justice 121 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: Department and Education Department reverse the transgender rights guidelines in 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: regards to restrooms and following the guidelines in their gender identity. 123 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: So she quickly came in and said, this is not 124 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: okay for uh, this is not okay to require schools 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: to provide such access because it does a disservice to 126 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: whomever else is there, which was a big conversation of 127 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: why Yeah. And since her initial appointment, Secretary Divoce has 128 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: been busy and as of last week, has rolled out 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: her new Title nine plan um. She has reversed over 130 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: twenty of Obama era guidelines that she's been appointed for 131 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: Title nine in regards to sexual abuse and violence and 132 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: education has made guidelines which could be difficult to reverse 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: even with her no longer as part of the administration. 134 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: Right and Some examples of the changes which will go 135 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: into affect August of this year include narrowing the definition 136 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: of sexual harassment as quote a school employee conditioning education 137 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: benefits on participation in unwelcome sexual conduct or unwelcome conduct 138 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: that a reasonable person would determine is so severe, pervasive, 139 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: and objectively offensive that is effectively denies a person equal 140 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: access to the school's education program or activity. Or sexual assault, 141 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: dating violence, domestic boss and stalking, which changed from the 142 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: phrase quote severe are pervasive again as said above, not 143 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: only narrows but must be more severe with the intent 144 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: of quote objectively offensive as Jenny Sue Kirson and The 145 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: New Yorker states quote a rape could be severe but 146 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: not pervasive, and a complement of one's appearance isn't necessarily 147 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: severe or objectively offensive, but maybe pervasive if repeated enough times, 148 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: and certainly could create a hostile environment, which shows the 149 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: problem with the definition itself. Right. And another change would 150 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: be the overall process of the hearings. Would the allowance 151 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: of hearings and cross contaminations by third party again with 152 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the option of doing it VIADEO conferencing. And this is 153 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: her rationale and say, this is how we're going to 154 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: protect the victims by not putting them in the same 155 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: room um which has been seeing as part of the 156 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: due process for the accusers, but again also a threat 157 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: to intimidate the victims. And those are only a couple 158 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of changes, and at this time the National Women's Law 159 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: Center will be suing the Educational Department in regards to 160 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: these new policies. Right, and to put this disclaimer into 161 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: at the end of it, I guess I could put 162 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: it at the beginning. UM, this is a continuous subject 163 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: and has been through a lot of changes and rewritse 164 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of overall debate. And honestly, I've spent 165 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot of time researching trying to narrow down the 166 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: probabatic portions as well as UM some of the issues 167 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: that was there beforehand. But there's a lot and we 168 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: will come back to do a more thorough look, especially 169 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: as it ties to women in school athletics, which we 170 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: didn't really talk about, and we should talk about because 171 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: we know just now the women's UH National Soccer League 172 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: was denied the equal pay, which is absurd in itself, 173 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: and this has to be another conversation. UM. And then 174 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: also we wanted to talk about the overall standard of 175 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the Equal Employment Opportunity Commissions and how their definition of 176 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: sexual harassment is actually different and more aligned with the 177 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: old school Obama era definitions. And that's kind of this 178 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: whole relay of so how does this go in hand 179 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: in hand when victims come out of the schools to 180 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: go into the workforce, What how does this affect and 181 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: will it affect things like equal opportunity in the workplace. 182 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of conversations about apologists, and we know 183 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: we're the hearing Kavanaugh hearing. There was a lot of 184 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: debate on the boys will be boys antics and whether 185 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: or not we're rolling back into that mindset or allowing 186 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: that mindset to prevail on school campuses. Um, but we 187 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: wanted to go ahead and then alert use some of 188 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: the changes and what to look for. Yeah, um, and 189 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: maybe to add on to that, actually don't know what 190 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: the day is, but it's May eleven or twelve, okay, twelve, okay, 191 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: So well as we record this. Uh so, if it's 192 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: you when you hear this, you're like what, Um, that's 193 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: that's when we're putting this together. And as we watch 194 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: the continued battles over what will be happening when it 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: comes to Title nine within the educational system, there are 196 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot of concerns on on what is happening and 197 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: who is being heard, And of course we know a 198 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: chuck of the standards behind these changes are due to 199 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: federal funding and who has given what and who has 200 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: given how much. It is important to continue to watch 201 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: these developments and make sure we know who is being affected. 202 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: So that was very very condensed, condensed version of what 203 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: is happening. Um. Like I said, these two key components 204 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: were something that people are really um concerned about, especially 205 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: because as the administration rolls out all of these new 206 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: standards and if they put it into specifics where these 207 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: changes cannot be easily changed and or reversed, this is 208 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: going to be a long haul in this conversation. And 209 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: we also want to see what happens with the lawsuits 210 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: against the Department of Education in itself. But as always, 211 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: if we have mistakenly said something wrong, please let us know. 212 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: We would definitely love to correct that because there was 213 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff out there, a lot of concerns, 214 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of op eds, a lot of editorials that 215 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: were out there that we were trying to discipher through 216 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: but again about how it's going to affect generations to come, 217 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: as well as women and those who identifies female. And 218 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: we know again many tax are happening against the transgender 219 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: community through these rollbacks essentially, and we need to make 220 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: sure that we are advocating in every way we can 221 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: for equal opportunity and equal rights. Yes, yes, UM, So 222 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: we'll be keeping an eye on that and we'll certainly 223 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: come back and revisit it in a full episode, but 224 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: in the meantime, if you have any suggestions for what 225 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: we should cover in any of these Monday minis or 226 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: or full episodes, please let us know. 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