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But I hope you enjoyed this stuff. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:46.600 It's gonna be really good. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.280 Some delicious leftovers if you will. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.360 The flavors have made friends overnight in the French Plus 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.080 drop by Armstrong at getty dot com, download podcasts, or 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.600 grab an ang T shirt n con you. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.120 Central Valley is, without question, one of the most vital 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:06.640 agricultural regions in America, producing seventeen billion dollars worth of 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:11.240 crops twenty five percent of the nation's food supply, and 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.240 to help grow and harvest those crops, many farmers here 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:20.480 rely on undocumented workers. The Department of Agriculture estimates that 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.960 about half of the hired crop workers do not have 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.360 legal status. That is estimated to be more than three 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.520 hundred and thirty thousand workers in the Central Valley alone. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.760 Three hundred thousand workers in the Central Valley alone, that 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.720 if you followed what recent poling says, sixty percent of 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.560 America wants would all be booted out of the country. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.560 And that would be obviously, if he did that all 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.600 at once, would be quite the wrecking of the whole 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:54.639 agricultural system. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, though, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.600 because you got to have a system of some sort 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.280 for having workers. It's the job of Congress to come 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.960 up with and be implied and follow through. I don't 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.720 know if they're going to or not, but Jo and 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.600 I have been talking about illegal immigration in farm workers 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.000 for geez, twenty five years or whatever being on the air, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:23.040 and this very part of the a California in the 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.080 country that they're talking about on ABC this week, and 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:27.640 we used to talk about it all the time when 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.720 we were only on in the Sacramento area. People had 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.240 always talk do you want tomatoes to be five dollars? Well, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.440 then you know it's gonna pick the lettuce. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:34.760 Yeah, exactly. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.680 It was always the conversation, and our answer was always 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.000 somebody or nobody or a machine, Well, let's hear from 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.400 a couple of farmers in the Central Valley and their 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.360 theories on why you need to have illegals picking. Here's 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:48.920 more from ABC this week. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.440 We can't afford a labor shortage. Back during Obama, we 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.600 had a labor shortage and there were a time where 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.160 we actually lost some crop. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.000 I think people will look at say, but wait a minute, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.600 they're Americans who are unemployed. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.240 Why can't you just hire them? 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.040 They don't want to come out here and work in 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.480 this in this extreme conditions one hundred plus degree temperatures, 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.840 dust hard work. What if you paid them more, it 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:19.239 doesn't matter. You know, we pay some of the highest 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.440 wages for farm workers in the nation right here in California, 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:23.920 and they won't come out. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.120 And just so before we have that conversation, here's a 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.480 different farmer, same question, same topic there. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.160 I don't care what you pay them. I don't care 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.720 if you pay them twenty six dollars an hour. They 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.120 ain't going to happen. They're not going to get up 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.000 at four or five in the morning, drive to the 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.720 field and pick fruit. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.200 So and that question was, why why don't you just 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.560 hire Americans? They won't do it. I don't care what 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.080 you pay them. They're not going to get up that 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.960 time of day and come out and do that job. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.600 So I don't understand why that isn't a hold on pause, 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:03.440 let's have a conversation about that sort of revelation on 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.080 ABC this week, they just move on to E. They 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.360 you see, Americans won't do this work, so it makes 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:13.120 sense to have illegal brown people do it. What what 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.480 how do you craft a society like that? How about 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:23.800 why would people who are unemployed or underemployed take the 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.400 option of not doing a job even if it paid 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:27.119 really well? 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:28.520 Right? Right? 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.360 How could they do that? How does that work? How 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.919 does that fin How are they paying the rent? How 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:32.560 are they eating? 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.720 Can you imagine if you went to family counseling and 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.960 and you said, my children refuse to do their chores, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.760 and the counselor said, well, let's talk about how you 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.280 can hire someone to do your children's right. No, that's 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:50.400 not the right question, right, Yeah, that's funny. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.520 But we've been we've been talking about this very topic 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:58.440 for decades now. How have we just accepted that people 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.240 born in this country shouldn't have to do work that's 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.720 not I don't know, glamorous or kind of hard, or 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.520 it's outside or whatever. The reason is people don't want 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:07.880 to do it. I did that kind of work when 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:08.719 I was in high school. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.800 Lots of us did. You can't do it in any 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.800 many Americans did? Yeah, but is everybody okay with that? 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:21.080 Creating a welfare state so lavish that people can choose 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.080 not to do jobs that they don't find like something 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.159 they want to do, even even if it pays twenty nine. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.120 Dollars an hour and one more amusing irony, This is 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.719 amusing me for many, many years. Is the more quote 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:38.039 unquote progressive you are, the more in favor of white. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.080 People, won't do this work. Let's bring in some of 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.120 those brown people. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.040 I mean, that's the further left yard, the more you're 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.320 a hardcore, open up the borders and let them in person, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.160 which I think is hilarious. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:55.240 There's also the unspoken, unstated realization that if millions of 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.320 people come here and do those jobs they're getting by, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.480 they must be able to live somewhere and have a 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.480 car and eat and you know, do all the things 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.160 you want to do with a job right by definition. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.280 Yeah, it's just it's it boils down to a couple 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.400 of very very simple principles. Number one is the purpose 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.240 of getting the reins of government is to be able 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.880 to distribute money from the treasury. Doesn't matter what the 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.039 system is. They vary in how they do that, but 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.320 that's the point. And in our system, you've got to 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.440 get a little support from a. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:27.560 Lot of people. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.719 Kim Jong un just needs a hell of a lot 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.560 of support from a fairly small group of people. But 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.200 in a democracy, you need a little support from a 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.400 hell of a lot of people. How do you do 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.400 that by handing out money? Government benefits? You know, three 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.360 and a half dozen different social programs that make sure 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.640 nobody's going to starve. And so the second, very broad 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.680 and easy to understand principle is people go for their 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:57.200 best alternative. They will do their best option. And for 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.000 Americans working in a field in the heat, in the dust, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.720 bent over is not nearly their best option. For some 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:05.960 Guatemalan it is. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.880 I just I don't understand how we got to where 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.920 we're okay with that or think that that's a workable 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.640 plan going forward that doesn't end up with like I've 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.800 been taking in a lot of French Revolution stuff over 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:25.840 the weekend, you know, that sort of society falling apart. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.480 I believe the French Revolution is your Roman Empire, although 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.040 you are quite interested in the Roman Empire as well. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.720 It is so the answer of how we get there 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.520 is because nobody asks the question, the moral question there, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.520 the one that we keep harping on is it's not 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:41.880 part of. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.360 The conversation at all. No, it wasn't. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.640 ABC this week did a long segment on this topic 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.480 and not a word of Does it seem a little 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:55.320 weird to have a society where you've declared certain jobs 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.080 off limits for your citizens, Like, no, that's too grungy 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.800 a job even at twenty dollars an hour you just 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:02.640 don't want to have to do. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.760 I mean, would you do that with your own kids. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.720 I'll keep supporting you, you know, until you're thirty or 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.360 a past rather than you go do that job. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.360 What? Yeah, who would live their lives like that? 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.840 Democracy's end when they realize they can vote themselves money 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.320 from the treasury. Can you imagine running on the platform 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.280 I'm going to get you off of your couch and 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.200 into the field. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:33.000 Good luck? What at right? We're a soft, decadent country. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:33.840 That's just that's it. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.400 We really are, which is what France was when they 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.680 fell apart. Not to get back to the revolution. But 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.079 and then here they wrapped up the conversation with this portion. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:49.840 Deporting undocumented workers in California is complicated. The state enacted 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.280 a measure in twenty seventeen that prevents state resources from 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.200 being used for federal immigration enforcement. And while that law 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.360 varies by city and county, California is the sanctuary city 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.800 capital of America, with dozens of cities and counties protecting 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:12.559 undocumented residents from a rest based solely on their immigration status. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.760 So that's a problem. I mean, it all fits together 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.760 as part of a puzzle. I hate the whole thing. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.400 But if you're going to accept I'm not. But apparently 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:28.560 we have accepted that our American born people shouldn't have 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:29.760 to do those jobs. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.839 Well, then you're gonna have to have illegals here. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.160 And then if you're going to have illegals here, you 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.640 can't have them being deported. So you got to be 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.679 a sanctuary county. I mean, it all fits together, or you. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.320 Just admit all of the above and you design a 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.560 temporary worker program, which is. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.440 What Congress should do. Also not a part of the 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.520 conversation where they said, well, if you want it to 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.959 be this way, and apparently people do well. Then Congress 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.480 needs to sit down and come up with a very 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:03.120 complex system for or workers or making these people citizens, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.800 or whatever it is you're gonna do. But you got 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.920 to come up with a plan. The all the arguments 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.360 I seem to see on the Sunday talk shows, nobody 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.760 was offering anything other than continuing to just randomly let 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.439 people come in buy the millions, come and go, buy 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.920 the millions, not know who they are. Martha Radditt's even 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.839 admitted to whoever was pushing back on this story. There 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:32.480 are six hundred thousand known criminals, not the crime of 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.079 being illegal, but like other crimes from Mexico or Venezuela, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.400 six hundred thousand criminals in the United States right now. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.000 We don't know where they are, what kind of who 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:51.319 does that? Yeah? Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah it is. It's 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:52.559 self destructive. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.840 It's it's horrible because we won't get to the root questions. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.640 And the final annoying reality I'd like to trot out there. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.400 Why I don't get many invitations to dinner parties? Oh 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:09.960 you invited, mister annoying reality? Oh good? Is the left 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:15.240 raises money from soft heads? In my opinion with their 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.440 no human being is illegal, bill bridges not walls, nonsense, 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.120 And the right raises money on boot them all out, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.320 seal the borders, and to say we're going to craft 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.240 a guest worker program that's going to let one point 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.680 one million people in temporarily, we'll keep tracking them, blah 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.640 blah blah, we're gonna streamline the course. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.880 That's just you can't raise money on that. It's too complicated. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.959 The devil is in the details, and there's always plenty 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.679 to anger, you know, virtually everybody in the discussion. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:42.880 So I don't know. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.800 I don't mean to be discouraging, but as long as 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.960 small money donations rule politics, it's going to be hard 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.520 to work out stuff like this. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.400 I'm just appalled by the idea. I've always cringed when 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.480 anybody says those are jobs American won't do. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:06.520 That makes me cringe. You cannot be a strong, functioning. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.880 Successful society if you've decided certain jobs are off limits 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:11.840 to your citizens. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:13.640 That's sickening. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.839 As a notion, well, that's how empires fall back to Rome. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.240 Or if you'd prefer, I assume, with your French Revolution passion, 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.800 you'd like to say see guillotines all over America cutting 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.880 off the heads of the disloyal or immigrants. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.920 I don't know what you're crazy world. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.680 The Armstrong and Getty Show, or Jahn your show, podcasts 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:40.840 and our hot Lakes, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.040 Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. It's an 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.040 absolute classic. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.559 Frank, Senator Long, you said, it's probably a little long, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.760 but what the heck, we always have time for it. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:58.200 It's from Lord Woodhousily, also known as Alexander Fraser Tyler 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.400 from back in the seventeen hundreds. A democracy cannot exist 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.000 as a permanent form of government. Can only exist until 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.520 the voters discover they can vote themselves largest from the 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.600 public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.640 for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.440 with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.280 fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:19.680 Then he goes into a bit of history. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.440 These nations have progressed through the sequence from bondage to 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.120 spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:31.080 to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:35.239 from selfishness to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:36.319 back into bondage. 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:42.280 So where are we right now? Somewhere between apathy and dependence. Uh, yes, yeah, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:42.960 I would say so. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.240 Yeah, we've certainly progressed past selfishness to apathy. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.000 Yeah, apathy to dependence. I think you nailed it. Yep. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.679 Baby boomers were the selfish and we moved into the apathy. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.600 Now we're headed into the dependence. Yep. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.719 There you go. That sounds it's pretty accurate. I think 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:58.840 that's absolutely right. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:00.640 And I was thinking about this last night when I 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.559 went to bed for some reason, about how there's a 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.240 shelf life to these things, and there just is, always 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.600 has been, probably always will be. And it's depressing, really 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.200 freaking depressing, unless you consider the following. This is your 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.560 cheery you up note. During every one of those stages, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.760 smart people, energetic people. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.320 Well I'm not very energetic, so let's just go as smart. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:29.080 Smart and semi energetic people have found ways to craft happy, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:34.600 productive lives. It just gets a little tougher. In the 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.200 words of the old bluesman, what is you gonna do? 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:37.960 Right? 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.040 I understand if you're going to focus on you and yours, 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.040 but kind of like the whole thing to last for 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:43.440 a while. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.160 I kind of wanted a pony for Christmas, all right, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:54.880 Wake up, grow up nail bag. Jeez drops a nope 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.240 mail bag at Armstrong and Giddy dot com when convenient. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:04.320 I I had a screed yesterday. I unleashed a screed 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.200 about how the Internet fertilizes stupidity. I never would have 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.280 thought of it again as long as I lived, except 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:11.680 several emailers have brought it up. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.120 That is pretty good. I forgot it a horridy myself. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.480 Yeah, Rich says Joe's book about in the Internet fertilizing stupidity. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:25.320 He says, true, but it's not fertilizing women, hence the 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:30.080 low birth rates. That could be an angle on my book. Rich, 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.720 I'll give you full credit, thanks, Bud. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.520 The Internet fertilizes stupidity might be your best quote ever. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.160 And I forgot I said it anyway. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.440 Mark and Stanton writes gents regarding the MSNBC reporter and 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.480 the other media chuckleheads describing our Marjorie Taylor Green as 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.080 the most conservative Republican in the House whatever, which is 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:54.000 an absurd description. I think a better description was inadvertently 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.960 coined earlier in the show by Joe. You might say, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.480 Marjorie Taylor Green is a grand standing moron quote fertilizing 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.520 stupidity in her caucus. Judging by the Republican Caucus actions lately, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.760 this is producing a bumper crop of dysfunction and asininity. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.400 The sun is a mighty powerful eat Mark and Stanton well, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:12.800 and one of the reasons I love that is a 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.160 sign off, by the way Mark. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.120 One of the reasons I hate the so much is 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.760 portraying a variety of things as conservative, is that it 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.040 comes from the liberal media. They want conservative to have 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.360 a stench to it. But there's nothing conservative about Marjorie 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.480 Taylor Green or Matt Gates. That that's not They're not 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.120 extra conservative as they're portrayed in the media. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.040 That's not what they are. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.800 I would have to work for a while to come 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.880 up with a term for exactly what they are. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.200 More like, trumpy is not bad. Well, I don't think. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.560 I don't think you would turn to political science for 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.440 a label for them, though, correct. Oh no, no, no, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.280 you would turn to Marshall McCloughan. Is that the name 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.040 of the guy who coined the media as the message, 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.800 and just the modern postmodern world whipping up interest and 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.800 fervor and clicks and that sort of thing. We're out 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.920 of time already. I've got a lot of great stuff here, Michael, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.440 got to believe a lot more of a. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:08.800 Show to go. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.560 Quick question for you, what if you happen to miss 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.560 this unbelievable radio program. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.040 The answer is easy, friends, Just download our podcast, Armstrong 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.960 and Getty on demand. 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Welcome, How are you. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.280 Good morning, Joe, Good morning Jack. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:27.960 I'm well. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.040 I'm especially well after the election. 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:32.400 Yeah, i'd imagine. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:32.560 So. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.800 I love the headline your recent piece, Gavin Newsom is 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.920 attempting to play on a stage well above his pay grade. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:38.760 Would you agree? 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.160 It seems like an odd moment for the woke Gavin 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.560 to decide this is my time. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.160 Yeah, he needs to learn to read the room, because 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.919 he's about as popular as Kamala Harris. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:58.880 I understand the wanting to be the first in as 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.000 the leader of the resistance for the you know, the 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.359 nomination of a Democratic candidate for twenty twenty eight. He 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.600 wants to me the first name out there. But this 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.600 whole fighting on a couple of areas that seem to 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.920 be thoroughly beaten, at least in this most recent election. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:18.760 What's he thinking? 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.399 You know, you ask a really good question, because I 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.840 don't have an answer to that. I don't think the 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.040 way he does, thankfully, because he's just a full blown narcissist. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.040 And I think part of the problem is a he 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.600 has no interest in governing, and he has no clue 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.600 in governing, so his natural inclination is to pivot to 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.680 something that's going to get him some media headlines. And 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:48.040 so you know, claiming to fight Trump is going to 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.639 certainly provide him some headlines on our lefty media. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.240 So you've made your career covering California and California politics. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:59.600 For folks listening around the country, what has the trend 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.280 been in California? And you can pick whatever item you want, 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.840 but I'm struck by the illustration and your piece in 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.840 the California Globe of the presidential results by county from 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.160 twenty twenty to twenty twenty four for instance. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.520 Yes, yes, isn't that There's nothing like a good visual. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:23.080 So it looks like in this election, Republicans slipped at 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.280 least eight states that we know of right now, and 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.920 that's only with seventy two percent of the votes counted county. 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.040 Some are saying it might yes, it might be as 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.199 many as ten counties flipping to the Red. And so 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:37.920 that's why that visual is so lovely. My point in 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:43.240 this is even Californians are set up with these ridiculous, horrible, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.720 damaging policies that frankly, they're harming people in California, whether 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.960 it's the increase in crime or you know, withholding water 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:57.520 to our agriculture, or I mean you just the lousy schools. 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.280 Even lefties are tired of this because lefties, well they 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.400 might vote very left in California, they live like Republicans. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.719 They're tight with a buck, they want their kids to 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.240 go to good schools. They do care about the roads 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.359 in which their rims are getting bent on. There's all 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.159 kinds of things, and of course the crime just is 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.120 in everybody's face. 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.160 It's funny you mentioned that my car's in the shop 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.159 for a week because I cracked my wheel on a 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.679 pothole because of our crappy, crappy roads so. 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:25.399 Ripped from real life. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.600 So it is interesting to see that there is a 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.640 limit to how long people will put up with the 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.280 same party despite the results. 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.080 Yeah, and I think what we're talking about are same people, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.600 maybe people who don't pay a lot of attention to 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.240 politics day in and day out the way we do, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.080 but they know what's happening right outside their front door. 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.119 And you know, in this case, it's a lot of crime, 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.840 it's really lousy maintenance in their cities and counties, you 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.560 know everything. Just in California. We're starting to look like 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.879