1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: And broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe. 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: Getty, Armstrong and Getti and now Key Armstrong and Getty 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: Strong and. 5 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. 6 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: We're off all week long. We give a lot of thanks, 7 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: we eat a lot, we watch a lot of football. 8 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: We'll come back refreshed. But I hope you enjoyed this stuff. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: It's gonna be really good. 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: Some delicious leftovers if you will. 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: The flavors have made friends overnight in the French Plus 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: drop by Armstrong at getty dot com, download podcasts, or 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: grab an ang T shirt n con you. 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 5: Central Valley is, without question, one of the most vital 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 5: agricultural regions in America, producing seventeen billion dollars worth of 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 5: crops twenty five percent of the nation's food supply, and 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 5: to help grow and harvest those crops, many farmers here 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 5: rely on undocumented workers. The Department of Agriculture estimates that 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 5: about half of the hired crop workers do not have 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 5: legal status. That is estimated to be more than three 21 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 5: hundred and thirty thousand workers in the Central Valley alone. 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: Three hundred thousand workers in the Central Valley alone, that 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: if you followed what recent poling says, sixty percent of 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: America wants would all be booted out of the country. 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: And that would be obviously, if he did that all 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: at once, would be quite the wrecking of the whole 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 3: agricultural system. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, though, 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: because you got to have a system of some sort 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: for having workers. It's the job of Congress to come 30 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: up with and be implied and follow through. I don't 31 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: know if they're going to or not, but Jo and 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: I have been talking about illegal immigration in farm workers 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: for geez, twenty five years or whatever being on the air, 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: and this very part of the a California in the 35 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: country that they're talking about on ABC this week, and 36 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: we used to talk about it all the time when 37 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: we were only on in the Sacramento area. People had 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: always talk do you want tomatoes to be five dollars? Well, 39 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: then you know it's gonna pick the lettuce. 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: It was always the conversation, and our answer was always 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: somebody or nobody or a machine, Well, let's hear from 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: a couple of farmers in the Central Valley and their 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: theories on why you need to have illegals picking. Here's 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: more from ABC this week. 46 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 6: We can't afford a labor shortage. Back during Obama, we 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 6: had a labor shortage and there were a time where 48 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 6: we actually lost some crop. 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: I think people will look at say, but wait a minute, 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 5: they're Americans who are unemployed. 51 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: Why can't you just hire them? 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 6: They don't want to come out here and work in 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 6: this in this extreme conditions one hundred plus degree temperatures, 54 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: dust hard work. What if you paid them more, it 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. You know, we pay some of the highest 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 6: wages for farm workers in the nation right here in California, 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 6: and they won't come out. 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: And just so before we have that conversation, here's a 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: different farmer, same question, same topic there. 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 7: I don't care what you pay them. I don't care 61 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 7: if you pay them twenty six dollars an hour. They 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 7: ain't going to happen. They're not going to get up 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 7: at four or five in the morning, drive to the 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 7: field and pick fruit. 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: So and that question was, why why don't you just 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: hire Americans? They won't do it. I don't care what 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: you pay them. They're not going to get up that 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: time of day and come out and do that job. 69 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: So I don't understand why that isn't a hold on pause, 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: let's have a conversation about that sort of revelation on 71 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: ABC this week, they just move on to E. They 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: you see, Americans won't do this work, so it makes 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: sense to have illegal brown people do it. What what 74 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: how do you craft a society like that? How about 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: why would people who are unemployed or underemployed take the 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: option of not doing a job even if it paid 77 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 3: really well? 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Right? Right? 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: How could they do that? How does that work? How 80 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: does that fin How are they paying the rent? How 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: are they eating? 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: Can you imagine if you went to family counseling and 83 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: and you said, my children refuse to do their chores, 84 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: and the counselor said, well, let's talk about how you 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: can hire someone to do your children's right. No, that's 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: not the right question, right, Yeah, that's funny. 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: But we've been we've been talking about this very topic 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: for decades now. How have we just accepted that people 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: born in this country shouldn't have to do work that's 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: not I don't know, glamorous or kind of hard, or 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: it's outside or whatever. The reason is people don't want 92 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: to do it. I did that kind of work when 93 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: I was in high school. 94 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: Lots of us did. You can't do it in any 95 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: many Americans did? Yeah, but is everybody okay with that? 96 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: Creating a welfare state so lavish that people can choose 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: not to do jobs that they don't find like something 98 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: they want to do, even even if it pays twenty nine. 99 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: Dollars an hour and one more amusing irony, This is 100 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: amusing me for many, many years. Is the more quote 101 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: unquote progressive you are, the more in favor of white. 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: People, won't do this work. Let's bring in some of 103 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: those brown people. 104 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the further left yard, the more you're 105 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: a hardcore, open up the borders and let them in person, 106 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: which I think is hilarious. 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: There's also the unspoken, unstated realization that if millions of 108 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: people come here and do those jobs they're getting by, 109 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: they must be able to live somewhere and have a 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: car and eat and you know, do all the things 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: you want to do with a job right by definition. 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's it boils down to a couple 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: of very very simple principles. Number one is the purpose 114 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: of getting the reins of government is to be able 115 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: to distribute money from the treasury. Doesn't matter what the 116 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: system is. They vary in how they do that, but 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: that's the point. And in our system, you've got to 118 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: get a little support from a. 119 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Lot of people. 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: Kim Jong un just needs a hell of a lot 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: of support from a fairly small group of people. But 122 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: in a democracy, you need a little support from a 123 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: hell of a lot of people. How do you do 124 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: that by handing out money? Government benefits? You know, three 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 4: and a half dozen different social programs that make sure 126 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: nobody's going to starve. And so the second, very broad 127 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: and easy to understand principle is people go for their 128 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: best alternative. They will do their best option. And for 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: Americans working in a field in the heat, in the dust, 130 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: bent over is not nearly their best option. For some 131 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: Guatemalan it is. 132 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: I just I don't understand how we got to where 133 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: we're okay with that or think that that's a workable 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: plan going forward that doesn't end up with like I've 135 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: been taking in a lot of French Revolution stuff over 136 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: the weekend, you know, that sort of society falling apart. 137 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: I believe the French Revolution is your Roman Empire, although 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: you are quite interested in the Roman Empire as well. 139 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: It is so the answer of how we get there 140 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: is because nobody asks the question, the moral question there, 141 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: the one that we keep harping on is it's not 142 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: part of. 143 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: The conversation at all. No, it wasn't. 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: ABC this week did a long segment on this topic 145 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: and not a word of Does it seem a little 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: weird to have a society where you've declared certain jobs 147 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: off limits for your citizens, Like, no, that's too grungy 148 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: a job even at twenty dollars an hour you just 149 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: don't want to have to do. 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: I mean, would you do that with your own kids. 151 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: I'll keep supporting you, you know, until you're thirty or 152 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: a past rather than you go do that job. 153 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: What? Yeah, who would live their lives like that? 154 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: Democracy's end when they realize they can vote themselves money 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: from the treasury. Can you imagine running on the platform 156 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to get you off of your couch and 157 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: into the field. 158 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Good luck? What at right? We're a soft, decadent country. 159 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: That's just that's it. 160 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: We really are, which is what France was when they 161 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: fell apart. Not to get back to the revolution. But 162 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: and then here they wrapped up the conversation with this portion. 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: Deporting undocumented workers in California is complicated. The state enacted 164 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 5: a measure in twenty seventeen that prevents state resources from 165 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: being used for federal immigration enforcement. And while that law 166 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: varies by city and county, California is the sanctuary city 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: capital of America, with dozens of cities and counties protecting 168 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 5: undocumented residents from a rest based solely on their immigration status. 169 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: So that's a problem. I mean, it all fits together 170 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: as part of a puzzle. I hate the whole thing. 171 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: But if you're going to accept I'm not. But apparently 172 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: we have accepted that our American born people shouldn't have 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: to do those jobs. 174 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: Well, then you're gonna have to have illegals here. 175 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: And then if you're going to have illegals here, you 176 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: can't have them being deported. So you got to be 177 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: a sanctuary county. I mean, it all fits together, or you. 178 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: Just admit all of the above and you design a 179 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: temporary worker program, which is. 180 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: What Congress should do. Also not a part of the 181 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: conversation where they said, well, if you want it to 182 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 3: be this way, and apparently people do well. Then Congress 183 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: needs to sit down and come up with a very 184 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: complex system for or workers or making these people citizens, 185 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: or whatever it is you're gonna do. But you got 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: to come up with a plan. The all the arguments 187 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: I seem to see on the Sunday talk shows, nobody 188 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: was offering anything other than continuing to just randomly let 189 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: people come in buy the millions, come and go, buy 190 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: the millions, not know who they are. Martha Radditt's even 191 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 3: admitted to whoever was pushing back on this story. There 192 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: are six hundred thousand known criminals, not the crime of 193 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: being illegal, but like other crimes from Mexico or Venezuela, 194 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: six hundred thousand criminals in the United States right now. 195 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: We don't know where they are, what kind of who 196 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: does that? Yeah? Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah it is. It's 197 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: self destructive. 198 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: It's it's horrible because we won't get to the root questions. 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 4: And the final annoying reality I'd like to trot out there. 200 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: Why I don't get many invitations to dinner parties? Oh 201 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: you invited, mister annoying reality? Oh good? Is the left 202 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: raises money from soft heads? In my opinion with their 203 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: no human being is illegal, bill bridges not walls, nonsense, 204 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: And the right raises money on boot them all out, 205 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: seal the borders, and to say we're going to craft 206 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: a guest worker program that's going to let one point 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: one million people in temporarily, we'll keep tracking them, blah 208 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: blah blah, we're gonna streamline the course. 209 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: That's just you can't raise money on that. It's too complicated. 210 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 4: The devil is in the details, and there's always plenty 211 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 4: to anger, you know, virtually everybody in the discussion. 212 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 213 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: I don't mean to be discouraging, but as long as 214 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: small money donations rule politics, it's going to be hard 215 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: to work out stuff like this. 216 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: I'm just appalled by the idea. I've always cringed when 217 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: anybody says those are jobs American won't do. 218 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: That makes me cringe. You cannot be a strong, functioning. 219 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: Successful society if you've decided certain jobs are off limits 220 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: to your citizens. 221 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: That's sickening. 222 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 4: As a notion, well, that's how empires fall back to Rome. 223 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: Or if you'd prefer, I assume, with your French Revolution passion, 224 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: you'd like to say see guillotines all over America cutting 225 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: off the heads of the disloyal or immigrants. 226 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're crazy world. 227 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 8: The Armstrong and Getty Show, or Jahn your show, podcasts 228 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 8: and our hot Lakes, The Armstrong and Getty Show. 229 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. It's an 230 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: absolute classic. 231 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 4: Frank, Senator Long, you said, it's probably a little long, 232 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: but what the heck, we always have time for it. 233 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 4: It's from Lord Woodhousily, also known as Alexander Fraser Tyler 234 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: from back in the seventeen hundreds. A democracy cannot exist 235 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: as a permanent form of government. Can only exist until 236 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: the voters discover they can vote themselves largest from the 237 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes 238 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, 239 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose 240 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. 241 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: Then he goes into a bit of history. 242 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: These nations have progressed through the sequence from bondage to 243 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage 244 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, 245 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,239 Speaker 4: from selfishness to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence 246 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: back into bondage. 247 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: So where are we right now? Somewhere between apathy and dependence. Uh, yes, yeah, 248 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: I would say so. 249 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've certainly progressed past selfishness to apathy. 250 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, apathy to dependence. I think you nailed it. Yep. 251 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: Baby boomers were the selfish and we moved into the apathy. 252 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: Now we're headed into the dependence. Yep. 253 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 2: There you go. That sounds it's pretty accurate. I think 254 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: that's absolutely right. 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: And I was thinking about this last night when I 256 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: went to bed for some reason, about how there's a 257 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: shelf life to these things, and there just is, always 258 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: has been, probably always will be. And it's depressing, really 259 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: freaking depressing, unless you consider the following. This is your 260 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: cheery you up note. During every one of those stages, 261 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: smart people, energetic people. 262 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Well I'm not very energetic, so let's just go as smart. 263 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: Smart and semi energetic people have found ways to craft happy, 264 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: productive lives. It just gets a little tougher. In the 265 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: words of the old bluesman, what is you gonna do? 266 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: Right? 267 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: I understand if you're going to focus on you and yours, 268 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: but kind of like the whole thing to last for 269 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: a while. 270 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: I kind of wanted a pony for Christmas, all right, 271 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: Wake up, grow up nail bag. Jeez drops a nope 272 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: mail bag at Armstrong and Giddy dot com when convenient. 273 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: I I had a screed yesterday. I unleashed a screed 274 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: about how the Internet fertilizes stupidity. I never would have 275 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: thought of it again as long as I lived, except 276 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: several emailers have brought it up. 277 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: That is pretty good. I forgot it a horridy myself. 278 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rich says Joe's book about in the Internet fertilizing stupidity. 279 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: He says, true, but it's not fertilizing women, hence the 280 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: low birth rates. That could be an angle on my book. Rich, 281 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: I'll give you full credit, thanks, Bud. 282 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: The Internet fertilizes stupidity might be your best quote ever. 283 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: And I forgot I said it anyway. 284 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: Mark and Stanton writes gents regarding the MSNBC reporter and 285 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: the other media chuckleheads describing our Marjorie Taylor Green as 286 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: the most conservative Republican in the House whatever, which is 287 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: an absurd description. I think a better description was inadvertently 288 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: coined earlier in the show by Joe. You might say, 289 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green is a grand standing moron quote fertilizing 290 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: stupidity in her caucus. Judging by the Republican Caucus actions lately, 291 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: this is producing a bumper crop of dysfunction and asininity. 292 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: The sun is a mighty powerful eat Mark and Stanton well, 293 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: and one of the reasons I love that is a 294 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: sign off, by the way Mark. 295 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: One of the reasons I hate the so much is 296 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: portraying a variety of things as conservative, is that it 297 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: comes from the liberal media. They want conservative to have 298 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: a stench to it. But there's nothing conservative about Marjorie 299 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: Taylor Green or Matt Gates. That that's not They're not 300 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: extra conservative as they're portrayed in the media. 301 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: That's not what they are. 302 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: I would have to work for a while to come 303 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: up with a term for exactly what they are. 304 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: More like, trumpy is not bad. Well, I don't think. 305 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: I don't think you would turn to political science for 306 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: a label for them, though, correct. Oh no, no, no, 307 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: you would turn to Marshall McCloughan. Is that the name 308 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: of the guy who coined the media as the message, 309 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: and just the modern postmodern world whipping up interest and 310 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: fervor and clicks and that sort of thing. We're out 311 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: of time already. I've got a lot of great stuff here, Michael, 312 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: got to believe a lot more of a. 313 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 7: Show to go. 314 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: Quick question for you, what if you happen to miss 315 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: this unbelievable radio program. 316 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: The answer is easy, friends, Just download our podcast, Armstrong 317 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: and Getty on demand. It's the podcast version of the 318 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: broadcast show, available anytime, any day, every single podcast platform 319 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: known demand. 320 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: Download it now, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. 321 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 9: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 322 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 4: Speaking of the recent electoral results in which the Democratic 323 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: Party took a hell of a drubbing, in particular the 324 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: more progressive side of it and anybody who was advocating 325 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: the wildest of the woke policies took it on the chin. 326 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: Thank god. 327 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 4: It seems like an odd moment for perhaps the most 328 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: progressive of America's governors to decide this is my moment, 329 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: But Gavin Newsom of California did just that with a 330 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: maneuver or two, which we will discuss with our guest, 331 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the California Globe, 332 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: who has been covering the California State Capitol for Ages 333 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: and Ages. 334 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: Katie. Welcome, How are you. 335 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 10: Good morning, Joe, Good morning Jack. 336 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm well. 337 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 10: I'm especially well after the election. 338 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd imagine. 339 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: So. 340 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: I love the headline your recent piece, Gavin Newsom is 341 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: attempting to play on a stage well above his pay grade. 342 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: Would you agree? 343 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 4: It seems like an odd moment for the woke Gavin 344 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: to decide this is my time. 345 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, he needs to learn to read the room, because 346 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 10: he's about as popular as Kamala Harris. 347 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: I understand the wanting to be the first in as 348 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: the leader of the resistance for the you know, the 349 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: nomination of a Democratic candidate for twenty twenty eight. He 350 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: wants to me the first name out there. But this 351 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: whole fighting on a couple of areas that seem to 352 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: be thoroughly beaten, at least in this most recent election. 353 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: What's he thinking? 354 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 10: You know, you ask a really good question, because I 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 10: don't have an answer to that. I don't think the 356 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 10: way he does, thankfully, because he's just a full blown narcissist. 357 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 10: And I think part of the problem is a he 358 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 10: has no interest in governing, and he has no clue 359 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 10: in governing, so his natural inclination is to pivot to 360 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 10: something that's going to get him some media headlines. And 361 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 10: so you know, claiming to fight Trump is going to 362 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 10: certainly provide him some headlines on our lefty media. 363 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: So you've made your career covering California and California politics. 364 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: For folks listening around the country, what has the trend 365 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: been in California? And you can pick whatever item you want, 366 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: but I'm struck by the illustration and your piece in 367 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: the California Globe of the presidential results by county from 368 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 4: twenty twenty to twenty twenty four for instance. 369 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 10: Yes, yes, isn't that There's nothing like a good visual. 370 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 10: So it looks like in this election, Republicans slipped at 371 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 10: least eight states that we know of right now, and 372 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 10: that's only with seventy two percent of the votes counted county. 373 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 10: Some are saying it might yes, it might be as 374 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 10: many as ten counties flipping to the Red. And so 375 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 10: that's why that visual is so lovely. My point in 376 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 10: this is even Californians are set up with these ridiculous, horrible, 377 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 10: damaging policies that frankly, they're harming people in California, whether 378 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 10: it's the increase in crime or you know, withholding water 379 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 10: to our agriculture, or I mean you just the lousy schools. 380 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 10: Even lefties are tired of this because lefties, well they 381 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 10: might vote very left in California, they live like Republicans. 382 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 10: They're tight with a buck, they want their kids to 383 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 10: go to good schools. They do care about the roads 384 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 10: in which their rims are getting bent on. There's all 385 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 10: kinds of things, and of course the crime just is 386 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 10: in everybody's face. 387 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that my car's in the shop 388 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: for a week because I cracked my wheel on a 389 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 3: pothole because of our crappy, crappy roads so. 390 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: Ripped from real life. 391 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: So it is interesting to see that there is a 392 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: limit to how long people will put up with the 393 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: same party despite the results. 394 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think what we're talking about are same people, 395 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 10: maybe people who don't pay a lot of attention to 396 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 10: politics day in and day out the way we do, 397 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 10: but they know what's happening right outside their front door. 398 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 10: And you know, in this case, it's a lot of crime, 399 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 10: it's really lousy maintenance in their cities and counties, you 400 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 10: know everything. Just in California. We're starting to look like 401 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 10: a third world country in many places. And this is 402 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 10: supposed to be, you know, the Golden State. 403 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: And Gavin's contention is that, and he's utterly a con man. 404 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: His contention is that we have all these challenges and 405 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: we're dealing with them courageously and creatively, as if these 406 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: challenges came out of nowhere. Is if they fell like 407 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 4: rain and all of a sudden you got to you know, 408 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 4: a million bums and junkies on the streets, as if 409 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: they're not a result of the very policies that he's 410 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: a spoused. But I mean, he took a hell of 411 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: us spanking recently, and the voter's overwhelmingly approving Proposition thirty six, 412 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: which overturned the disastrous Proposition forty seven. You'd think he'd 413 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: wake up and smell the discontent. 414 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has no. 415 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 10: Ability to do that, and I think that that shows 416 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 10: his unbridled narcissism. All he can see is got tunnel vision, 417 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 10: and he's focused on national politics next. That's where his 418 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 10: career was supposed to take him. So, by golly, you know, 419 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 10: he's going to show Josh Shapiro out of the way 420 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 10: as fast. 421 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: As he can, right. 422 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to jump ahead at Josh Shapiro and 423 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: a number of other people out there. 424 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. 425 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: Well, does Kamala Harris have any future? 426 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: Or is she just done? 427 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 10: That's hilarious. I just published an article this morning and 428 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 10: I titled it, are you kidding? Berkeley poll reports California 429 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 10: voters want Kamala for governor. No, this is an absolute 430 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 10: last guest attempt by Berkeley and the Los Angeles Times 431 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 10: to try to see if her fledgling political career could 432 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 10: be saved. 433 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 4: I just that's that's that's that's be like, Yeah, hello, 434 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: I gotta take me real quick. 435 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: Are you skilled in the arts of karate or what 436 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: that shut out of me? 437 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 8: Yeah? 438 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine that. 439 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: So, once again, for people who are listening around the 440 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: country who may not be familiar, can you give us 441 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: the nickel version of Gavin Newsom's energy policies and and 442 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: and just and as Katie talked, perhaps folks, you can 443 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: imagine this being implemented nationwide. 444 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 445 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 10: Actually, what Gavin Newsom is doing is imposing unbelievable regulations 446 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 10: on our oil and gas industry. We're not fracking for 447 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 10: natural gas in California, even though we sit on top 448 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 10: of the world's largest gas reserves. So he's trying to 449 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 10: restrict all this. He's forcing oil and gas companies to 450 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 10: withhold hold back some of their oil and gas, and 451 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 10: it's going to lead to even higher gas prices. His 452 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 10: California Air Sources Board, that's the regulatory agency for our 453 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 10: global warming policies, just passed amount to at least the 454 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 10: sixty five cent additional tax on top of our highest 455 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 10: gas prices in the entire country. So what he's doing 456 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 10: is creating shortages of everything, including water deliveries. I mean, 457 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 10: it's hard to make this stuff up. It's almost like 458 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 10: the un is running Gavin Newsom and California because nobody 459 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 10: in this state wants to live like this, and yet 460 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 10: these morons are still. 461 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: Voting for this. So is there any chance that he's 462 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: not actually angling to be the nominee in twenty twenty eight, 463 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: that he's trying to get some other really lucrative gig, 464 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: like an al Gore type lifestyle or something. I mean, 465 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: is it just a money grab that I don't quite 466 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: understand yet. 467 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 10: It's it's about power and money. I wrote right before 468 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 10: the election and article about how the only thing he 469 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 10: really has left to focus on is his climate change chops, 470 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 10: and so he's trying to pivot to become the next 471 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 10: al Gore on the net. 472 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: There's a lot of money in that. There's a lot 473 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: of freaking money at that. And you don't have the 474 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: scrutiny of politics exactly, and. 475 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 10: You don't have to you don't have to produce anything. 476 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 10: There's no results necessary. You will go around and blather 477 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 10: on about climate change this and that and carbon emissions, 478 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 10: and for some reason the media buy it, hook line 479 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 10: and sinker. 480 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: Oh boy. 481 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: Katie Grimes is the editor in chief of the California Globe. 482 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: Katie I picture Gavin announcing officially for president the presidency. 483 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: Within a couple of years, we will organize a march 484 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: of all forty million Californians from California to DC, Kansas. 485 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: You're gonna need to stuck up on avocado. 486 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: Toast, but we will march to DC. 487 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: And declare America. Please don't do this to yourselves, Please don't. 488 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: We've linked Katie's a couple of recent pieces up top 489 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: at the hot links at Armstrong in giddy dot com 490 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: if you want to take a read Katie, great to 491 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: talk to you is always keep fighting the good fight. 492 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 10: Thanks, great to be with you guys. 493 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: Always fun. Thanks. Yeah, just you know, I don't want 494 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 2: to embarrass Katie or. 495 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: Anything, but she is a fairly mainstream to left leaning 496 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 4: journalist who just prized old school journalism telling the truth. 497 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 4: And she has gone from you know, absolutely you know, 498 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: tolerant and sympathetic toward kind of the center left to 499 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 4: being aghast at what she's. 500 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: Seeing in her home state, as so many are. Yeah. 501 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: I think this is my current working theory that he's 502 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: not actually angling to be the twenty eight nominee, that 503 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 3: he's trying to raise his que fan, his name and 504 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: everything like that just in progressive circles and become something 505 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: that makes him a lot of money for a long 506 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: time al Gore style. 507 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's calculating enough that I still say he is absolutely, 508 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 4: fully turgid aroused for the idea of the White House. 509 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: I always say that, I think you are enjoying the imagery, 510 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: is what's going on. 511 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: Shakespeare had sexy stuff in his place too, and he's 512 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: worshiped so anyway, But you do make an interesting point. 513 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: He's calculating enough that that's his main goal, but he's 514 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: positioning himself in such a way that other goals are pursued. 515 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: At the same time. Yeah, he's really, in a word, evil, 516 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: an evil human being. 517 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: So doge coin, different than bitcoin but also a cryptocurrency, 518 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: has now as of today, jumped twenty percent since Trump 519 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: announced Elon and the Doge Group or whatever they're going 520 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 3: to call it, the Department of Government Efficiency. So because 521 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: it's named the same as their cryptocurrency, they're people invested 522 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: in the cryptocurrency. 523 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: Well, the general friendliness toward cryptocurrency, plus the branding wise 524 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 4: that helps. God, I got to figure out the timing 525 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 4: on this. Like yesterday, I thought it too late. 526 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: If I'd had invested in bitcoin yesterday, I'd be significantly 527 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: wealthier today. 528 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 9: Damn it. 529 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: Why do you keep your bitcoins under your bed or 530 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: something like that. I tell you what, whatever you have 531 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: that's worth protecting. Our friends and sponsors that simply say, 532 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: if home security, you're there to help you do it. 533 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: The home security system we trust in so many thousands 534 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: of others too. They'll offer you a big discount. Now 535 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: with a new system, we'll tell you about that in 536 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: a minute. 537 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'm looking up at Biden and Trump together 538 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: in the Oval Office. We'll have some highlights from that 539 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: coming up for you in a little bit. Oh my god, 540 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: I can't imagine what they're saying. Simply say the active 541 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: guard outdoor protection is what I love. Changes the game, 542 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: preventing crime before it happens. With the agents being able 543 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: to see in real time, anybody look and breaking into 544 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: your house, you can actually talk to them directly. 545 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, someone's lurking around or acting suspiciously, like if Biden 546 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: tries to get back in the Oval Office office, for instance, 547 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: wanders off, the agents can set off your spotlights, tell 548 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: them to get the hell out, called the cops before 549 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: the breaking before it happens. No long term contracts, no 550 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: cancelation fees. Is around a dollar a day for all 551 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 4: this protection. Again you get a nice discount. Use the 552 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: code armstrong when you go to simplysafe dot com slash armstrong. 553 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: Once again, that's simplysafe dot com slash armstrong. It's about 554 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: a bucket day. Did we mention that no long term contracts, 555 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: no cancelation fees. They don't work like that. Simply safe 556 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: dot com slash Armstrong. There's no safe like simply safe. 557 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: So to paint the picture for you, it's Trump and Biden, 558 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: all smiles in blue suits and red ties, sitting there 559 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: in front of a roaring fireplace there in the Oval Office. 560 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: And Biden's good at that whole backslapping, we're pals thing 561 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: he's been doing for since before most of us were born. 562 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: And this is the only thing he's good. Yeah, it's 563 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: really his only uh. And and Trump, of course is 564 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: joining the fact that he has uh defeated that side 565 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: thoroughly first time they've been together since the debate that 566 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: ended Biden's career. Oh my god, Trump probably never been 567 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: this happy as life. Then, sitting next to this guy 568 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: that he's so thoroughly trounced having, he slaps Biden on 569 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: the back and says, remind Hunter to pay his taxes. 570 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 2: Huh. 571 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 8: See around the Armstrong and Getty Show, Jack your Joe 572 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 8: podcasts and our hot links Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty 573 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 8: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 574 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: Katie, You're gonna have to explain to us what all 575 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: this is we're hearing here. So apparently there's this internet 576 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: trend going on right an internet trend. You say it's 577 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: an internet trend. 578 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 11: And apparently if you exhale all the way, get all 579 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 11: the air completely out of your lungs, and then you 580 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 11: try to scream, you make some form. 581 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: Of annoy is like that. Okay, gotcha, the exhaling scream challenge. 582 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: I'll do that with my kids today for fun. 583 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: Take a video, let us know it goes. 584 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: I'll do it with one of my kids. My high 585 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: school kid is no longer interested in anything whimsical. 586 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: He is just gloom. Teenager? What the official uniform of teenager? Though? 587 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 11: The whole reason I discuss I wanted to see if 588 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 11: Michaelangelo could do it. 589 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: Michael, do that for us on Mike. Exhale completely, then 590 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: try to scream. Okay, here we go, Here we go. 591 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: Oh you took you in healed? You didn't. You didn't 592 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: exhale enough either, it completely exhaled. Okay, no, you healed again? 593 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: He can't in here. 594 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: He blew out. Then you took a breath. Okay, let 595 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: me blow. I'm gonna just do nothing but blow completely. 596 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: Don't take a breath in. 597 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: You took it. 598 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: You're held under never mind never I don't understand. I'm 599 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: growing out that's the way excel. 600 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: What you want. 601 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: Do not take a breath. You are taking the fact 602 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: that you're not following these instructions is I'm just gonna 603 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: blow out, right, Okay, Katie, we gotta go. 604 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: No, We're not gonna go through this again, Michael, Michael, 605 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: you blow out, you go and then you go and 606 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: then you scream. 607 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to. That's leave out the last try. Okay, 608 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: so just blow and scream, but but don't write. 609 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 12: Okay, all right, okay, all right, everywhere, so earlier, earlier, 610 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 12: all right, Katie for the podcast, you need to do 611 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 12: it because I want to hear you try to do it. 612 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: Okay, podcast, Okay. 613 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: You know, the only thing I took away from that 614 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: is how incredibly infectious laughter is listening to those numbskulls 615 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: try to do the numbskullish challenge of the day. 616 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: Right, But they're all laughing, so you just can't help. 617 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: But you know, giggle. 618 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: Here is a professor at the University of Kansas, where 619 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: I spent a year in grad school. Poorly, I don't 620 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: know what class he's teaching here, but somebody got out 621 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: their cell phone. He's doing this in the little lecture 622 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: room in front of a bunch of students. 623 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: I can't believe it, but here you go. That's what 624 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: frustrates me. 625 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 13: There are going to be some males in our society 626 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 13: that will refuse to vote for a potential female president 627 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 13: because they don't think females are smart enough to be president. 628 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 13: We can line all those guys up and shoot them, 629 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 13: and they clearly don't understand the way the world works. 630 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: Did I say that? It scratch that from the recording. 631 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 13: I don't want the deans hearing that I said that. 632 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: We missed the very first part of that where he's 633 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: in a conversation when somebody put starts their cell phone, 634 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: where he's saying, people who think that men are smarter 635 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: than women, So why is he having that conversation anyway? 636 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: Who thinks either way that either gender is as a 637 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 3: whole smarter than the other. 638 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: That's just a dumb premise to start with. 639 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: And then he goes into there are people that won't 640 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: vote for Kamala Errs because they don't believe women are 641 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: smart enough. 642 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: People who thinks that how many people do you know? 643 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: Thinks that what are you talking about? Katie? 644 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: Feel free to weigh in, but as a guy who 645 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 4: loves and cherishes women in every part of life. The 646 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: male who has to promier trait himself talking about women 647 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 4: are so much smarter. 648 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: Bet are so dumb. Women are smarter. 649 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: You are pathetic. You should turn in your genitals, sir, 650 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: And I use that term loosely. 651 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: That's pathetic. 652 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 11: Two points One. I hate nothing more than a male feminist. 653 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 11: That's awful. Second, this guy's name is Philip Locock. 654 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: Oh, no, it's not. It is no, yes it is. 655 00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: How did that escape? 656 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 11: And he's a lecturer in the Department of Health, Sport 657 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 11: and Exercise Science. 658 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: You know, good year Alish just could probably help you 659 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: with your problem there, mistress. 660 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 3: Support garden. I mean, how low is it support garment 661 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: that gets that thing up where you need it to be. 662 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 3: You gotta change your name. You know you don't want 663 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: to down around your knees. You want to up here 664 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: waste level. I mean, maybe many generations of Locock settled 665 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 3: the West and made Kansas the fabulous states that it 666 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: is today. 667 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: You gotta change your name. I'm sorry. 668 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 14: Maybe I'm all due respect to great grandfather Locock in 669 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 14: the work he did in Prohibition, and Grandpa Locock and 670 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 14: it's how he, you know, opened the first bank of 671 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 14: Solona or whatever. 672 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: You gotta change your name. 673 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, maybe I should have more sympathy, but 674 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: he grew up with that name, probably many endless jokes 675 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: like we're doing now, and it drove him to being 676 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: a male feminist where he has to overreact the other 677 00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 3: direction or something. 678 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: Low T. 679 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 9: Armstrong and Getty 680 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: Top six fifty KSTVU