1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Days The Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of the Jesse 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Kelly Show on an ass Doctor Jesse Friday, a Friday 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: where we had more confirmation hearing is we've already played 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: you some of that. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: We're about to talk about the cultural ratchet that only 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: goes left. Is that gone now or has that situation changed? 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that here in just a moment. Someone wants 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: to know why does liberal and Peggy find value in communism? 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: What's the appeal in it for her? We'll talk about that. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Maybe a little medal of honor Japan stuff. All that 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: and more coming up on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: someone's said, in this one, Jay Steele, you aptly described 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: our policy as a ratchet rather than a pendulum, never 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: swinging back and forth, but always ratcheting further and further left. 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: With Trump's return and countries across the West rejecting their 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: leftist leaders, are we finally done ratcheting? She said, I'm 18 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: emailing from a Puertoc phone. Her name's Diana, and she 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: requested the bar. Are we finally done ratcheting? I don't know. 20 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: I doubt it, but I don't know. So let me 21 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: let me first of all, explain the concept really quickly, 22 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: for in case you're unfamiliar with it. Our culture overall, 23 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: not focusing on one election or one year or something 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: like that, but overall, our culture, for the entirety of 25 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: my life, the entirety of your life, has only gone 26 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: to the left, only to the left, sometimes super super fast, 27 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: sometimes really really slow. Oh, but only left. That's not 28 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: even debatable. Honestly, it's not even debatable. Gay marriage is 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: actually a great example of this. Barack Obama was not 30 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: exactly a president from ancient history. Barack Obama was president 31 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight to twenty sixteen, like five 32 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: minutes ago. He was president when Barack Obama was starting out. 33 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: In fact, for really the entirety of his career, he 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: was loudly and vocally anti gay marriage. Today, every single 35 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Democrat in the United States House and Senate says that 36 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: trannies exist. That is, that is warp speed moving to 37 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: the left. It's just one example. But warp speed moving 38 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: to the left. Why is that? Well, A big part 39 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: of that is the niceness of the right. The right 40 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: does not have a conquering mentality and without an aggressive, offensive, 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: conquering mentality. You will be conquered by the communists eventually. 42 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be really fast, maybe it'll be really slow. 43 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: But because communists are aggressive, it's a religion of conquest. 44 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: They're aggressive and they believe in conquest. If you don't, 45 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: if you feel differently, that only ends one way. And 46 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: one of the greatest examples of that is actually what 47 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: we're about to experience illegal immigration, immigration, mass deportation, that 48 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: did all the things that come with that. So before 49 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: we even get to what's coming with Trump and his presidency, 50 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about something that's been happening in this country 51 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: really since the sixties. They figured out this, of course, 52 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: was a Democrat thing and Rhino Republic can help them 53 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: with it. They figured out, Hey, these Americans, we want 54 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: to do all these things, all these great society welfare programs. 55 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: We want to figure out how to massively increase the 56 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: size of the government and buy off as many votes 57 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: as possible. How do we pass law that will ensure 58 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: we can win elections in the future, more of them 59 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: than we're winning Now, That's really all it came down to. 60 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: And Democrats back then figured out what tyrants and evil 61 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: people have known for the longest time. I read that 62 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: quote from Plato a long time ago. If I remember 63 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: right where they talk about a tyrant, an evil person 64 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: in government, he prefers the company of foreigners because people 65 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: who are citizens of his country, patriotic citizens, they don't 66 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: want him to rip apart the country. They have a 67 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: loyalty to the country. You have a loyalty to America. 68 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: So if you're an evil tyrant and you don't care 69 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: about the country, well I'll just bring in some people 70 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: from out of town. They don't love this place like 71 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: you do. You're an annoyance, so I'll bring them in 72 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and they'll be my new friends. Well that happened years 73 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: and years and years ago. So for decades, people were 74 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: brought into this country in mass I don't mean legal immigration. 75 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I worked hard, I got my citizenship. That I'm talking 76 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: mass importation of foreigners, legal and illegal. I should point 77 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: out every year there's a new legal immigration program. Wow, 78 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: we definitely need fifty more thousand people from Somalia. That's 79 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: what Minneapolis needs. Right. So this has been decades of 80 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: this and Republicans who love the cheap labor, Republican politicians 81 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to keep going too. So decade after decade 82 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: after decade after decade, what we got sixty plus years 83 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: of the mass importation of foreigners into the United States 84 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: of America. Sixty plus years. Bringing us to now the 85 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: year twenty twenty four, how many should we deport's let's 86 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: call let's pick a number. Whatever number you pick, someone 87 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: will argue against it. I would say fifty million is 88 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: a good number to start on. It's probably more than that. 89 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Let's say fifty million illegals are here. It's more than 90 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: that if we're going over the decades, But fifty million, 91 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: that's our number, fifty million illegals. Now those illegals, amongst 92 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: those fifty million there are most definitely going to be 93 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: hardened criminals, murderers, rapists, all those things. Everybody, for the 94 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: most part, everyone wants those people gone. Well, yeah, of course, 95 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: so prioritize the criminals everyone wants. Sounds good, It sounds good. Okay, 96 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: let's move past them. Let's say there were there were 97 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: five million to them. Okay, so we still have forty 98 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: five million left. Some of those are women, children, some 99 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: of those are dudes. Maybe maybe not hardened criminals. But 100 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: guy's got a drinking problem, got a dui let's you 101 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: We'll focus on the dui group. Let's say there's two 102 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: million of those. How many Americans on the right want 103 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: those guys gone too? I know you're yelling at the radio. 104 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I do, I do, I do? Okay, good, me too. 105 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: That's that's good. Now they're gone. Now we have forty 106 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: three million left. Do we want all of them gone? 107 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Every single one? And even if you are a yes 108 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: on that, think about the norms and normas in your life. 109 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Do they want all of them gone? Men? Women, children, 110 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: all fifty million gone? Most people, if they're answering, honestly 111 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: say no, Well no, not the kids, no. 112 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: No. 113 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: If they've been paying taxes here for a while, well no, 114 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: he's a law abiding citizen. He's been my landscaper for 115 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: some time. Most people will get there. But we're not 116 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: even having an immigration talk. This is about the cultural pendulum. 117 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: If they imported fifty million and you deport forty nine million, 118 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: we've still gone left. The ratchet has still gone their way. 119 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: We're still not back to where we were before they 120 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: started the mass importation of foreigners. We are still further 121 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: left than we were before. But because we don't have 122 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: an aggressive mindset of conquest. We try to bail water 123 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: out that they purposely let in on every issue. This 124 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: goes well beyond immigration. On every issue. We will slowly 125 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: but surely try to bail water out on this and 126 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: bail water out on that. But you're never going to 127 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: get all the water. 128 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look, we don't want to just focus on 129 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: the bailing water after all. 130 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: We want to we want to be kind about things. 131 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: You know what DEI is actually a great example of this. 132 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's White House has just came out earlier today. 133 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: The I offices are closing all over the country, private corporations, 134 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: the FBI just shutter their DEI office, the Biden White House. 135 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Of course they're Democrats, they're not laying off it. They 136 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: put this out today. 137 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: President Biden promised that he would have a cabinet that 138 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: looks like America, and he did. 139 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: We're talking about this incredible, full throated commitment to equity. 140 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: There's more women, more women of color, more people on 141 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: the cabinet with perspectives that have never been around a 142 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: decision making table before. 143 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm the member of President Biden's cabinet. We got we got, 144 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: we got we got varies, So week boys, all that 145 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: puts well, what's d I. D I is aggressive culture Marxism, 146 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: that is open institutionalized anti white racism. That's exactly what 147 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: it is, Anti white man racism. That's what DEI is. 148 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: It is the open, very very open and honest acknowledgment 149 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: that you will be prejudiced against against white men. That's 150 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: what DEI is. Now, does closing a DEI office, let's say, 151 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: at the FBI, we'll make it about the FBI. Does 152 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: closing the DEI office at the FBI? Does it get 153 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: us back to where we should be. Let's talk about 154 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: that briefly and then we'll move on to some other 155 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: ass doctor Jesse things. Before we talk about that. To 156 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: figure out how far away we've gone from where we started, 157 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: maybe we should learn more about why they put the 158 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: things in the constitution they put in there. Probably pretty important, 159 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree? Or we can go even further back 160 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: than that. What about the history of the ancient Christian Church, 161 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: stories from the Book of Genesis? Do you want to 162 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: know more about these things? Hillsdale College is offering more 163 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: than forty free online courses. There's no cost. I can't 164 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: stress that enough. 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Member 170 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 171 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: I just want to finish this thought about the cultural 172 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: ratchet and how we've only gone left and I brought 173 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: it up when it comes to immigration illegal you bring 174 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: in fifty million people, even if you deport forty nine, 175 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: you have not done enough. You haven't even gotten back 176 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: to where you were before. Period now culturally right now, 177 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: d eyes on the news, Biden puts out a DEI 178 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: video from the White House today. The FBI announced last 179 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: night their DEI office is shutting down, and we're all celebrating. Wooh, 180 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: that's great, nice, okay, but does that get us back 181 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: to where we should be? How did the how'd the 182 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: DEI office start? How did institutionalized anti white man racism? 183 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: How did it get there? Who put it there? What 184 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: are their names? And let's say their names are Chris 185 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: and Corey. If Chris and Corey are at the FBI, 186 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: working anywhere in the government, and they decided to institutionalize 187 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: anti white man racism known as DEI and start an 188 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: entire DEI wing for the federal Law Enforcement arm so 189 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: the FBI could fill itself up with a bunch of 190 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: evil communists who will infiltrate your church, then I need 191 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Chris and Cory arrested. They have to be arrested. Closing 192 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: down the DEI office does not get us back to 193 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: where we should be. Getting us back to where we 194 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: should be involves closing down the DEI office and throwing 195 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: Chris and Corey in prison. So the next little animal 196 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: in the government who wants to do things like that 197 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: is too afraid to do so. And then we put 198 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: into place rules that we used to have in this 199 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: country that say you're not allowed to discriminate against anyone 200 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: for any reason, or if you want to take it 201 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: a step further when it comes to private businesses, maybe 202 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: we do what we should have done all along and 203 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: say you should be able to discriminate against anyone for 204 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: any reason. That's part of living in a free country. 205 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: If I want to announce that I'm only hiring Asians, 206 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: well I should be allowed to do so. If I 207 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: want to announce that I'm not serving Indians in my restaurant, 208 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: no more Indians in here, I wouldn't recommend it. Probably 209 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: not morally right, but legally it should be. But you see, 210 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: you have to untie, not after, not after, not after, 211 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: not after, not to get back to where you were originally. 212 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: And the truth is we are way too soft and 213 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: nice on the right to do those things. That's why 214 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: you've heard me yell when it comes to ilegal immigration 215 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: about this line. So many of them are taking well, 216 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: we got to start with the criminal first. They're all 217 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: freaking criminals. The public voice, the messaging should be, it is, 218 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: in large part it is I want to give them credit, 219 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: they've really been great. But in large part the messaging 220 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: should be, if you're here illegal and we find you, 221 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: you are gone. Period. In fact, if your children are 222 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: illegal and they're in school, better pull them out and 223 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: go back home. We'll find them. Period. If you're illegal 224 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: and you seek out emergency medical care in this country, 225 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: you'll get the medical care you need, but you will 226 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: never leave the hospital and step foot in the United 227 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: States of America. Again, you go right from there to 228 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: the bus back to where you came from. That should 229 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: be the messaging loudly, all of you gone. And then 230 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: then you find the people responsible, and I should note 231 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the evil demons responsible for what they've done to this country. 232 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: They're currently worried about being found. That's why you're even 233 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit of finger pointing. Alejandro Mayorcis, 234 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: head of DHS, took over his head of DHS and 235 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: used his role to open up the United States of 236 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: America to murderers and rapists. He flew and bust as 237 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: many foreigners into this country as he possibly could. And 238 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: now the books are about to be opened because Donald 239 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Trump won an election. May Orcis is worried about exactly 240 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: what I just talked about. 241 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 5: You think none of those things. If you could go back, 242 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 5: you would do differently. 243 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: Yes, And you have to understand something, and this is 244 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: not specific to government, but to any large organization, including 245 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: a government administration. People have different views on what the 246 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: correct policies should be, what the correct operational measures should be. 247 00:16:55,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 4: Those disagreements, those different views are voiced, decisions are made, 248 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: and then everyone marches in unity. 249 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: Together. 250 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: That is the nature of a large organization, and the 251 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: government is no different. 252 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: But just so I'm clear that are you suggesting you 253 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 5: view your own personal views about how to operate this 254 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 5: were at odds or there was a distinction between your 255 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: personal approach and how you would have wanted to do 256 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: it and how maybe your bosses wanted to do it. 257 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to get into the deliberative process. We're 258 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 4: one team and it's one effort. But this is not 259 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 4: a revolutionary concept that there are disparate views when one 260 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: has many people involved in the decision making process. 261 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: He was real delicate about it, but you heard exactly 262 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: what I just heard. What's he doing there? He's making 263 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: sure if the hearings do come after he's gone, that 264 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: he's setting himself up for what in May I didn't 265 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: want to do. I didn't want to open up the border. 266 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring fourteen thousand Haitians in overnight. 267 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want to fill up Springfield, Ohio. I didn't 268 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: want to bring that rapist. 269 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: Me. 270 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: Whatn' me? Whatn' me? The communist fears being found for 271 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: his crimes, and the right has never had the will 272 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: to do it, and That's why that ratchet stays a 273 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: ratchet that will stop when government people start getting arrested. 274 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: As I've said many times before, not one or two 275 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: government people arrested. They need to be obliterated, just like 276 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: my blender. What Chris, the Obliterator blender is the best 277 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: freaking thing I've ever bought in my entire life, premium blender. 278 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: And I know there's all these well we're the best 279 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: blender out there, Obliterator. You realize Chefman went out and 280 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: found the motor guy. They like, how can the thing 281 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: handle twenty years of daily use? You can't believe the 282 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: stuff we put in ours? How can it handle that? 283 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: Well? 284 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Quality was a focus. Quality was a supreme focus of Chefman, 285 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: and now they have the Obliterator. It one the Red 286 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: Dot Best Design Concept Award. My wife loves it on 287 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the counter. We use ours every day, oftentimes twice a day. 288 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: Want the best blender you've ever had in your life? 289 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Chefman dot com, C H, E F M A N 290 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: dot com or you can go pick it up in 291 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: the nearest Walmart if you want it. The Obliterator. Gosh, 292 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I love this freaking thing. All right, let's talk. You 293 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: know what let's talk a little bit of history. Then 294 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: we'll go back to normal times. Hang on, this is 295 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: a Jesse Kelly show. 296 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday. 297 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Remember, if you miss any part of the show, you 298 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: can download the whole thing on iheard Spotify iTunes. You 299 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: can leave us voicemails since we don't really do phone 300 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: calls here. Eight seven seven three seven seven four three 301 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: seven three. 302 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 4: I live on the East Coast and I've had it. 303 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: What's the better choice? 304 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 4: Montana or Wyoming? 305 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: Seriously, thanks, Wyoming or Montana. Okay, So, first of all, 306 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: for you Easterners, Southerners, Californians, people thinking about making the 307 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: trek into the Rocky Mountains, one great move, great move. 308 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: It's just the most beautiful place in the country. But 309 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm just going to explain a couple of things about 310 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: living there that I'll get into the Montana Wyoming thing, 311 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: because they're very similar. First, I know this is a 312 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: very very obvious point, but winter is an entirely different 313 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: animal there. I'm not saying you can't handle it, or 314 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, they're all superhuman up there. I'm not saying 315 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: that at all. But you have to prepare yourself for 316 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: seven months of winter. Eight months of winter. I remember 317 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: in Montana. Just look, it's just a mindset. It's just 318 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: the you're cold weather gear is going to have to 319 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: improve you. I used to sit around and this happened 320 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: to all of us. You would end up longing for 321 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: things that normal people will take for granted. For instance, 322 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: winter can it's not consistent, can last for so long 323 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: that by the end of it, you'd be driving around 324 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: and you would find yourself longing to drive on dry roads, 325 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: just a regular paved road. Something. If you don't experience it, 326 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: you take for granted all the time. Everyone listening in 327 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Alaska is nodding their head right now. Something you take 328 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: for granted, something I take for granted. Now that I 329 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: live in Texas, I've never gone extended periods of time 330 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: at all without having a dry road surface, having to 331 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: adjust your driving because everything's snowy or everything's ice. In Montana, 332 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: you can go six, seven, eight months without laying eyes 333 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: on dry roads. It's I'm not talking you out of it. 334 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm really not. I'm trying to prepare you. It's a 335 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: different mindset in places like that. Another thing, and this 336 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: is really basic for everyone everywhere. But I'll tell you something. 337 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: I try to teach my sons, although I could freaking 338 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: kill them because this message is not getting through enough yet. 339 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: When we're leaving, maybe it's raining here, maybe it's cold here, 340 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's hot here. I tell them, whenever we're getting 341 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: ready to get in the car and go somewhere, practice 342 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: or something. You need to dress as if you will 343 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: walk as if your car is going to go into 344 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: the ditch, as if something you don't dress as if 345 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: you're in a climate controlled car. Dress as if you 346 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: have to walk at all times. Dress that way, right, 347 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of a fairly old lesson. Yet still those 348 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: little medias, Uh, we were only going to school. I 349 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: can wear shorts whatever, bet in Montana and play in Wyoming. 350 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: This applies to that to people die all the time, 351 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: die because their car goes into a ditch and they're 352 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: not prepared. It is not an option for you to 353 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: have a foil blanket or some granola bars, some water, 354 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: something like that. You must at all times keep something 355 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: in your car that will allow you to survive the 356 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: night in your car in ten twenty below zero, because 357 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: it is something that may happen to you there and 358 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: there are remote roads where no one's gonna drive by 359 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: or even see you if they do until the next day. 360 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: What Chris Chris says, why would you want to move 361 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: to the eighth circle of Hell? Okay, So Texan, let 362 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: me explain this to you. What's the appeal of it? Well, 363 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: like I just said, it's very very remote. Wyoming's the 364 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: same way, very sparsely populated. Montana is the same way, 365 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: very sparsely populated. And there are positives and negatives to that. 366 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: As I just said, you're out on some two lane road, 367 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: you're up a canyon somewhere. You might be on your 368 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: own for a day or two before anyone sees you. 369 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: But remember I told you I used to go elk 370 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: hunting with my old man, and we would have we'd 371 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: go elk hunting in various places in Montana. But he 372 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: had this bow camp where he'd go bow hunting. That's 373 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: a different kind of hunting for you hunters. I know 374 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: you already know you use a bow, but you totally 375 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: hunt differently. You have to bugle the elk in and 376 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: then shoot him at the arrow when he comes in. 377 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: It's intense. Anyway, we at elk camp during the summer months, 378 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: you would have to prepare, meaning we would go we'd 379 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: get our horses, we get our mules packed, and we 380 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: would ride up into the mountains. And when it was 381 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: in summertime, you would dig your facilities. We would bring 382 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: non perishable foods, bury them up there in barrels. We 383 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: would bring I mean, we built a little toilet. We 384 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: dug out toilet ditch and brought a toilet set up 385 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: there so you could use the la It was that 386 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of elk camp where you had to prep it 387 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: ahead of time. But then winter would come and we 388 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: would get back on the horses and we would ride 389 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: into Montana and you would be up up in the 390 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: mountains and you would look around and you were alone, 391 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: miles and miles and miles any direction, fifty miles in 392 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: any direction. There may not be another human being. You 393 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: are alone in the mountains. See look at Chris coming 394 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: around on it already. He's already doing that. Sounds kind 395 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: of cool, you see what I mean, Why would you 396 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: live like that? Well, that's part of the appeal of 397 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: living like that. The danger of it, the remoteness of it, 398 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: is also part of the appeal of it. It's a 399 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: very different way to live than what you're used to 400 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: if you grow up, if you grew up in Mobile 401 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: or you grew up in Boston, or you grew up 402 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's better or worse or really not. 403 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: I prefer it over most of those things, but it 404 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: is different and you are going to have to prepare 405 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: yourself for that kind of difference. Now, the last thing 406 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: I will say on this because I do want to 407 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: answer your question. Then we'll get back to politics. And 408 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: I know we have to get to the Japanese World 409 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: War two stuff, which I will get to next. I 410 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: teased it and I didn't get to it because I 411 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: got distracted. So these rocky mountain areas like Wyoming in Montana, 412 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: in a smaller way, they suffer the same thing the 413 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: rest of the state suffer. You know here in Texas, 414 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Texas is red. Now, it's very red, but it should 415 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: be the reddest state ever. Why isn't it? Dallas, Houston, Austin, 416 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: San Antonio, California, California should be blood red. Go look 417 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: at a congressional map in California. It's just red except 418 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: for San Diego, San Francisco. The big cities now, big 419 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: cities don't necessarily exist in Montana or Wyoming. But when 420 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: you get into a beautiful mountain city that is kind 421 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: of one of the central hubs, like Bozeman, like where 422 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I grew up, Bozeman is completely left. Now if you 423 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: go into the city limits of Bozeman, you're gonna have 424 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: pride parades the same way you are in Manhattan. Same 425 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: thing happens in Austin, Texas. Same thing happens in Birmingham, Alabama. 426 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: Same thing happens every place is in Florida. You know, 427 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: we all love the freeze state of Florida. Gosh, but 428 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: we practically live there anymore now, bouncing back and forth. 429 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Florida's got these little blue places. There are little blue 430 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: places in Montana and Wyoming. So don't just pick a 431 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: city and move there and think you're moving to Red America. 432 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: It's further to the right than Sacramento, but it's further 433 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: to the left than you think you're getting. But you 434 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: get outside of those places, the most wonderful, hospitable people. 435 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I remember it growing up. I've never lived any place 436 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: like it in Montana. When it's a two lane road, 437 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: just you and the other lane, right, two lane road. 438 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: That's how we described it. People describe that differently. Every 439 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: single person who drove by waved at you, even if 440 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: it was just a finger off the steering wheel, not 441 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: the middle finger, Chris, and you wave back. It was 442 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: how you did things. You because it's remote, you help people. 443 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: You never drove by someone in a ditch or something. 444 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: You help other people. It's part of living there. And 445 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: it was wonderful there. Now I'll do Japan and back 446 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: to politics. Hang on, miss something. There's a podcast getting 447 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: on demand wherever podcasts are found, The Jesse Kelly Show. 448 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday. Remember 449 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 450 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: Jesse consider reading the Metal of Honor for Commander Okaine, 451 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: US Navy. After the sinking of the USS Tang, he 452 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: and his crew were taken to Japanese pow camps, where 453 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: they remained until the war ended. After the war, Okaine 454 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: was awarded the Medal of Honor, while the Tang was 455 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: awarded four Battle Stars and two Presidential Unit Citations. The 456 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: Tang was ultimately credited with sinking thirty three ships totally 457 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen thousand, four hundred and fifty four tons. 458 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a moment. I'm a submarine 459 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: submarine r VET and in twenty years older than you. 460 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Love your show, and knowing someone younger is watching out 461 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: for the young vets gives me hopes. Stay on the 462 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: air as long as you can go Navy, he says. 463 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: Gosh, jeez, why are you ge No in all seriousness, Okay, 464 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: so tons, I just wanted to do a couple quick 465 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: things on this because because some of this stuff can 466 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: get confusing if you're not a history nerd. When you 467 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: hear were War two vets, war in the Pacific, Vets 468 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: in particular, although this took place in the Atlantic as well. 469 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: When you hear them describe the tones, the tones, what 470 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: about the tons, I want to explain what they're talking about. 471 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: Like the tang was credited over one hundred and sixteen 472 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: thousand tons. Those are goods that were heading to Japan 473 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: or from Japan as Japan was trying to supply their 474 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: other outposts in the Pacific. What we did to Japan 475 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: and World War two, it's very, very fascinating. It's essentially 476 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: a more modern version of an ancient siege if I 477 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: brought my army to your city and I laid siege 478 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: to your city, what's the idea behind a siege. I'm 479 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: hopefully going to take the city. I'm going to make 480 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: efforts to take the city. But whether I can take 481 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: the city soon or take the city later, your city 482 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: going to be getting weaker as I surrounded. Why I'm 483 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: starving you to death, I'm starving you. You're not allowed 484 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: to bring things in in mass, You're not allowed to 485 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: send things out. Trade stops. Your city under siege gets 486 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: cut off. We during World War Two did the most 487 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: ridiculously massive build up of the navy of any navy 488 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: in the history of mankind. There are guys, and there 489 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: were guys during World War Two who argued to this 490 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: day a pretty good argument that we overbuilt it, that 491 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: we under that we underserved other portions of the military 492 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: by going all in with the navy. We had more 493 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: ships than you can imagine. And what we did with 494 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: that was, I'm gonna set the Atlantic aside. What we 495 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: did with Germany, but not what we did with that 496 00:31:53,960 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: was we shut the waters in the Pacific down around Japan, 497 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: sinking ship after ship. I'm not just talking about their 498 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: navy ships. We were sinking merchant vessels in mass You 499 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: were not allowed to bring shipments of stuff into Japan. 500 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: The United States of America stopped it if it was 501 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: on the water and it wasn't our ship. It was 502 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: going down to the bottom of the Pacific. And remember, 503 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: as we talked about before, nineteen forty two was our 504 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: bad year really all around. That was our bad year 505 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: where they were still on the move. They were beating 506 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: us up pretty good. They beat us up in the 507 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: water pretty good. But after nineteen forty two, for the 508 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: Nazis and the Japanese that ended, they were they never 509 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: had the upper hand again. They were always losing ground 510 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: from that point. Post nineteen forty two, we just simply 511 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: filled up the waters of the Pacific with submarines, destroyers, cruisers, battleships, 512 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: aircraft carriers, all these different wonderful ships, and we just 513 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: sunk everything we saw. And he brought up Okaine. I 514 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: believe his name was Dick. I think it was Richard Okaine, 515 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: if I remember right. I didn't look this up for him, 516 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: and Chris looked that up. Commander of the Tang Commander Okaine. 517 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: I believe it was Dick Okaine, But Dick Okaine in 518 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: the tang and his in his crew to be on 519 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: a submarine in World War two, really anytime. As much 520 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: as I hate give giving credit to the Navy, I 521 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: really admire the service. It's it's a tough service. During 522 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: World War Two. I don't know if it's still this way. 523 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: It was purely volunteer, purely volunteer, and understandably so it 524 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: was insanely dangerous. Remember back then, if your submarine went 525 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: down under the water, you were it was Dick Okaine, 526 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: it was Richard Okain. Okay, I thought, so you were 527 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: so slow you were borderline not even moving. You wonder 528 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: how these submarines got blown up while they're under the water. 529 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: The planes fly over and they see them, and you 530 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: can't move. Destroyers on the surface looking for you will 531 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: run you down like nothing if you're under the water. 532 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: So you have to be on the surface if you 533 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: want to move at any speed. But the idea of 534 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: being on the surface, yeah, you need the speed, but 535 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: you have no armor. You're not a battleship with layers 536 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: of armor and aircraft carrier. It is paper thin on 537 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: a submarine, and submarines died by airplane all the time. 538 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Airplanes would find them, stray them. You're finished. It was 539 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: insanely dangerous to be a submariner in World War II. 540 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: Or sub mariner, I know, everyone pronounces that differently. These 541 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: guys like Dick o'caine were alpha male hunters, though, when 542 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: you read their stories, and there were a lot of 543 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: these guys, mush Morton, there were a lot of great 544 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: submarine or captains. These guys all they wanted, give me 545 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: working torpedoes and send me out, and they would go 546 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: out into the deepest depths of enemy territory and they 547 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: would go try to shoot down everything Japanese they could find, 548 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: and a lot of them die because the Japanese knew 549 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: what was happening, and they knew how important it was 550 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: to stop the submarines from stopping their merchant shipping, so 551 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: they constantly had planes on patrol, ships on patrol trying 552 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: to find it. And these guys, they cruisy submarines right 553 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: into some big Japanese harbor and start sinking ships. Now 554 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: that feels good when the torpedoes are landing. It doesn't 555 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: feel quite as good when they're dropping depth charges on 556 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: top of your face. Crazy bravery from the United States 557 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: Navy and World War Two. As much fun as I 558 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: have mocking the other branches, really admire the serviceman. I've 559 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: told history stories about that before that. To be on 560 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: some big floating ship full of fuel and bombs and 561 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: bullets and all around you the steel is shrapnel if 562 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,959 Speaker 1: something explodes. To be on a major ship exchanging gunfire 563 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: with another major ship, I couldn't do it. I don't 564 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: have the guts. I could never do it. It terrifies me. 565 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the communist mindset. Let's go 566 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: back to some politics, shall we. Why why do they 567 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: find value in communism? We'll get to that in a moment. 568 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Before we get to that, you know where you can 569 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: find a valuable employee. It's not in the online classified section, 570 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I promise, it's not in the local newspaper. You're not 571 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: going to find them putting something on the front door 572 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: of your restaurant. You want to find quality people for 573 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: your company, They're at ZIP recruiter. 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