WEBVTT - Ray Parker Jr. 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:19.520 Money. Well, say, take Valentine, we are the authority. What's 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.919 going on? Is your boy Tank? This is Mr Valentine. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.720 I'm I'm Valentine. You are the Valentine. Sometimes you missed 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.840 the Valentine was saying. We all go with the Valentine 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.640 to Day and this is the R B Money Podcast, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.440 the authority on all things R and B. Listen, let 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.120 me pause for a second. The Valentine. I feel like, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:43.600 you know, I always do the intros. You know, the 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.919 intros is my place, That's why. But I feel like 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.120 I feel like this is your intro. I feel like 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:55.160 you should have handled this. This was because today, talking 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.720 about to Day, we went back to the essence, right, 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.280 we went back to where this whole R and B 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.080 money things started. Now, R and B music might have 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:10.240 been around, but they wouldn't getting to the money. So 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:15.360 today on the R and B Money Podcast, we have 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:24.880 Sir m hmm, Capital s Capital Capital are Ray Parker, Junior, 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:30.400 the Ghost Weston himself in the Mill, Harris and Bills. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:39.120 I don't care it my god, sir, just having Sunday night. Yeah, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.520 that's why I looked at JA, said Sir Ray Parker 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.800 to you. Now I'm gonna respected. But can you can 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.600 you just before we dive back into the archives, can 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:55.760 you give us like, how do you become sir? What's hell? Am? 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.080 I know? I had a neighbor who was who was 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.640 a guy he knew the Prince of Spain and the 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.640 next year, I guess the two of them were talking about, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.880 you know, he lived down there, and they thought I 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.600 was worthy. You don't need to check my background, make 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.400 sure I ain't done. They already knew it was out 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.520 because the neighborhood though, yeah catch that part though I 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.880 had a name, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.040 so we had to check. You didn't check me out, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.119 make sure I have done no deeds, you know, wrong 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.959 deeds and all this stuff, and you're worthy of royalty. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:23.679 And they said, would he'd be a good guy to 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.120 having the order, you know, the royal in the Royal 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:30.960 Royal Order? Yeah, what you know about that? The Royal Order? Yeah, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.359 I have no idea about black I'm a black guy 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.120 from Detroit. I mean, I'm as far away from the 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.520 Royal watched the Game of Thrones. The Game of Thrones, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.800 so no, it's got something to do with that. Vikings 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.440 is a good show. There's a royal order on there. Yeah, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.640 but you're part of the royal order. So that means 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.200 when when it all goes down, you're gonna get one 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.680 of the phone calls. You're protected. Yeah, and then they 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:03.600 have sovereigns exactly about the sovereignation. So I may get 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.400 dual citizenship, I may have a second citizenship. Will give 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.760 you some tax advantages, and there's some other things that 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.240 can go along with this. I'm just learning. So yeah, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.280 so we spoke about, you know, your sovereignty. You're being 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.360 survey from now on, they can't call you nothing else. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.720 But let's go back. Because it's the R and B 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.640 Money podcast. We like to uh, we like we like 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.840 our podcast to be informative. It's funny and you know, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.000 we want to tell real stories and we want people 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.840 to have an understanding of where the music truly comes from. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:41.040 So from my understanding, it's Motown? Am I right? Kind 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.720 of right? I wouldn't say it came from Motown. The 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.000 Motown obviously played a big part of my career. It's music. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.840 Music started for me as six years old. I didn't 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.840 want to dance with the girls in gym class. The 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.280 head is doing some kind of dance in elementary school 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.720 if you can remember, being five or six, I remember, 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.800 and we had to switch girls, and I'm like, I 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.560 don't like this girl, think you know, switching partners. So 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.080 I went to the principal of the school at six 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.840 years old and told the principle I wasn't happy with 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.520 the curriculum. And so she's, first of all, she paused 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.280 for about five minutes, like you gotta be kidding a 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.920 little kids coming in my office, to the principal's office. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.440 You know, you don't like. I don't I don't like. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.680 I don't like, I don't like, I like. I ain't 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.320 feeling it, you know. So she took me to a 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.680 music class, of which one I got there. I didn't 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.320 know what the music class was, by the way, so 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.000 it's not like I wanted to play an instrument. I 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.360 didn't even know what that meant. But when I got there, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.440 my best friend Ali Brown and Nathan Watts were already there. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.960 And by the way, they're still musicians to today. So 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.080 remember those names because it's relevant. And uh so the 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.040 teacher looked at me, says, what instrument you want to play? 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.680 I wanted to play the flute because you got to 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.520 carry the instrument home. Man. I didn't want to take 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.919 the tube but home, it's too heavy. So I picked 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.599 the clarinet, and I became very good at the clarinet. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.960 I didn't care, but the teacher was so motivating. My 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.040 elementary school teacher was everything to me, you know, And 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.200 he was so motivating that he put the three of 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.479 us best friends together and formed the band and called 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.599 the band the Sting Rays at six. Now, what was 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.760 interesting about that? He named the band after me? Put 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.000 sting Raids with already White. The other two guys they 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.680 didn't know. They just got screwed all day. They hadn't 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.920 figured out they got stuff they got. Yeah, they didn't 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.040 figure out the name band was named after me, and 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.159 they just got screwed. So they didn't do that, and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.520 so we did that for a while. Then when I 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.560 got older, about eleven years old, my brother had a 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.039 little cheap guitar and I started playing a guitar. Now, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.800 the guitar for me was like magical. It was like 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.440 the clarinet. I was working at it. Everything else. I 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.559 was working at it, but somebody they put the guitar 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.599 in my hand. It was like, yeah, God, just bless me. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.840 This is it, this is where I am. And then 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.600 I broke my leg at eleven, and so I practiced 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.120 all day every day. And to make the story shorter 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.280 for you, by the time I was thirteen, I was 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.080 on tour at the Spinners What yeah. So then I 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.000 then by the time I was fourteen, fourteen and a half, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.760 then I started on Motown. I started working with Marvin Gaye, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.640 last night, Smokey Robinson. I was in the studio with 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.480 all the guys. So you were to do the house 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.159 of music, whoever that is. Yeah, yeah, I know, dude, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:11.240 I'm remember. Yeah yeah. So I got it going, and 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.839 by fifteen I was pretty much financially independent by fifteen, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.039 and my dad swore I was selling drugs and doing 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.040 something right. I mean, so he went to my cousin 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.120 and said, you go following him around. There's nowhere in 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.119 the world that kid can make that much money playing 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.599 the guitar and he's only fifteen years old. And so 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.479 my cousin followed me around. I didn't know why he 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.400 was hanging with me, was like, his older cousin was like, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.000 you ain't up hung with me before, why are you 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:36.839 hanging with me now? You know. But he was trying 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.960 to figure out what I was doing and he had 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.520 to go back and report. Well, you know, Ray ain't 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.240 really going to class. He's skipped in school, but he 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.960 is playing music because the sessions were going on the daytime. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.240 I wasn't going to school. I'm going to play the 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.720 Motown We don't go stupard, you know. And I was 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.240 working with Hollandojo Holland when they separated from Motown because 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.000 they couldn't use the Funk Brothers, which was the Motown band, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.960 so they ended up using me at Hollando Holland and 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.440 all their records. So I was doing that three days. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.600 So back then it doesn't sound like a lot of money, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.320 but it was at the time. We can make a 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.040 hundred bucks playing three hours every three hours, so I 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.280 could do that three times a week. I was playing 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.320 at the club called the twenty Grand, which was the 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.920 famous club. It's like Cotton Club and Hound and all 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.520 the big bands smoke, you know, smoking. Robinson would come 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.160 their glass ninety pips. I was making three hundred fifty 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.600 dollars a week there and then I do Jewish by 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.440 mrs and weddings and I can make another thirty five, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.800 you know, dollars a trip, and so I'm making I 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.680 can make it like seven eight hundred bucks a week. Now, 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.480 you gotta understand a brand new Lincoln Continental is only 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:45.000 five grand back then, what you got to so like 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.080 you look at your car and say, oh, I only 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.680 got to work too three weeks and I got the 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.240 whole car, you know, And I'm like, yeah, it wasn't nothing. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.800 I could buy a sept a bicycle for fifty bucks 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.480 and all the time I had, You know, there was 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.880 there was one month I worked with Marvin Gator Studio 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.880 all month at fifty I think I was sixteen in 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.040 and I made eighteen thousand dollars for the month. That's 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.960 more money than my father made all year working at four. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.720 So you gotta kind of, yeah, you gotta kind of 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.360 get into that and get a picture that. Yeah, where 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:23.160 were you season can ask this question, you worked with 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.840 Marvin Gay. Youre working Marvin for a month. What did 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.800 that entail? Where is it? Was it just session work 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.600 or were you able to input? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.920 that working with Marvin game was the most fun I 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.160 had at that age because he would let us write 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.000 songs with him. In fact, there's an album that came 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.640 out last year called Funky Town or something, and it's 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.839 the unfinished tracks that Marvin never finished singing. He says 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.559 my name on the record while I was naming on 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.160 the record, and behind his name on the record, and 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.240 all our names on we all got co writers on 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.880 all the songs. And so what would it be as 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.600 we go all day in the studio going in the world, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.480 we record with Marvin, then we go over Marvin's house 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.080 and listen to tapes. Now I'm the youngest one there, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.080 so I'm sitting to taple cord. They're telling me loaded 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.280 seven and a half inch tape, you know, put the 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.520 tape cord in. And that was the first time I 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.080 saw a rack of Macintosh Ampson tan Oi speaker. His 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.040 his house sounded better than the studio, you know. And 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.000 I'm too young to figure we're just kicking Marvin's house. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.880 You go to Marvin's house every day, I mean, that's 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.120 no big deal, you know. And Marvin liked to smoke 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.080 a little weed from time to time. So my favorite 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.560 story they were they were doing a documentary one time 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.199 on Marvin. They were interviewing me because I'm on his 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.320 greatest hits and a bunch of stuff. And so he 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.600 was smoking a little weed and he looked over at 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.840 me and he went his kids under age, and he 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.640 got the drivers like yet. So he just looked at 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.640 me and says, man, why don't you take my car 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.280 and go for you know, go get lost for a 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.160 couple hours. You know, I'm still getting paid. But he 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.319 gave me the car, not the car he had. If 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.640 you saw the current super Fly, the bug Carolin with 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.920 the things, Marvin had a burger. Marvin had a Burgundy 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.720 when it was cold, love it right through me. The keys. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.280 I didn't. I didn't have a driver's license, you know. Me, 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.240 I get in the car, man, I'm not, I'm not. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.760 I'm in this fifty thousand all in Catillac. Man. I'm 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.880 leaning over to me and the mirror. My head's under 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.440 the mirror like this. And I went to my high school, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.520 you know, rolling because you gotta go somewhere. You gotta 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:20.240 go to the high school. And I'm looking all my boys. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.440 Then it occurs to me that the guys get that 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.040 close to me. Man, they're gonna hop in the car. 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.040 I just burned, rubbing left all. But they were like 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.760 what's that ringing? So I thought that was the most 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.319 exciting thing, and I told that story in his documentary. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.760 They took me out the whole documentary because I told 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.800 the story. They said they wanted to hear about the 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.760 real deal. I gave him the real deal and then 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.400 they kicked me out the whole documentary for that. So 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.720 I was like, okay. But Marvin was the coolest guy. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.520 He was a great football player. You know. They were 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.160 going to sign him to the Detroit Lions, so he 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.760 because I think I heard that he tried out for 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.320 the Redskins, but he was well, he was with Lyn 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.800 Barney all the will come to the studio. So they 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.680 were going to sign him to the Detroit Lines. But 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.440 he had to say that he wasn't going on two 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.400 effects amount of time. I didn't want to do that. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.840 He was gonna really get a real party. He was. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.360 It was a receiver, right something. Yeah, but he I 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.000 was too young though he was. But he was also 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.960 a great boxer. By the way, Mom had the hands 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.200 to Mark, b Oh, yeah, you messed with Marvin's woman. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:28.600 He was punching this woman guys out, literally punching guys out. Mark, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:34.640 you don't mess heavyweight. You don't you don't play. But 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.520 he said all the records with Jaz you know, you know, 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.320 you know, you know, jan said hello stuff. Don't talk 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.160 to me him because Marvin would knock you out. So 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.240 but he was. He was a wonderful guy, just a 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:49.400 great human being, wonderful guy. One of my So you've 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.040 been around all of them because the other the other 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.240 person I wanted to ask you about, Verry White, very White, 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.120 wasn't one of our closest friends. Yeah, me and very 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.760 White man. We you know, Barry comes from Houston, Texas 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.160 and grew up here in competent and stuff. So he's 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.480 like sort of a roughneck kind of guy. But I 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.559 like those kind of guys because I grew up in Detroit, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.280 and so we we showed her identified each other. You know, 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.679 when I first made Barry White, Gene Page invited me 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.120 to the studio and he had speakers of really really 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.400 loud champion. You'll be like going like this got his 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.040 diamonds on here, diamonds or he's doing that way before 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.920 the rappers, he had aling out. Oh he was blame 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.400 blaing out yellow suit. You know, he's like he's sitting 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.360 there around like that, and I had an idea for 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.160 a song and in me from Detroit, and I'm like, well, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.120 how do I get this guy's attention? And I would 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.680 never do this now, I'm way too refined, and you know, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.720 I been living here for too long. But at that 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.959 time I went to stop on the button, stopped this music. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.079 He turned around, looked, he looked in the back. Let's go, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.720 and I got a big afro, and I've got my shirt. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.000 I got my little tank top on says I'm a 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.280 fucking genius on the shirt. So I'm trying to I'm 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.000 not hiding myself. I mean, I'm feeling over maybe a 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.760 little overcomfident people more, saying he was the most modest 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.520 guy in the world. So I mean, I had to 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.000 go on. And then he looked back and before he 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.920 could like shoot me or kick me out, he says, well, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.480 didn't get in there and play it there, you know. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.000 So I went in and worked on one of his 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.280 earlier albums and I played the line, and I thought 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.840 he's gonna back up and let me play it all 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.120 the way down. He came on the speaker said keep 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.920 playing like that, you know, and so on the actual 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.679 record that I did. There's like two bars where I'm 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.840 not even playing, right he because that's who I'm saying, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.760 keep playing, And he just kept the whole thing and 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.000 just played it and we were good ever since. Yeah, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.920 and then we had other things that were you know, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.520 his scene was that he got ten writer signed him, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.280 he says, but nobody gets a song on Barry Waite, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.160 no way, no how. And he had a Love and 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.720 Limited and then he had Loving Limited Orchestra. So the 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.760 first thing I did is I condom into getting me 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.280 a song on Love and Limited. You know, Love Limited. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.040 He used to write him all himself. Oh yeah, he 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:51.760 write them on himself. So I kind of into getting 0:13:51.760 --> 0:14:00.720 me one on Love Limited Orchestra. Yeah, And so I 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.439 had him, I had to. I had Jeane Page was 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.079 doing the chart, the famous arrange, and he was with 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.520 my buddy. So Jeane had done the charts from me 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.520 all the stuff. So when I pushed Barry and by 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.240 the way, Barry White, he paid us all triple scale. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.640 And if you were done with the music early, you 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.400 can go home. You still get paid. So we were 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.480 done one day early, and I waited to that day 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.080 and the music radio and all this stuff ready, and 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.560 then you know, he was in my car which he 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.360 cut his arm, sitting a little Mercedes convertibles. Look, that 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.840 was a good idea, idea, But I played in the music. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.520 He was like, yeah, that's nice, real, Okay, I'm going home. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.040 I said, some wanting him to cut this song. He said, well, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.320 we're finish, the musicians are going home, and said, you 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.000 ain't got no chart to get that. I said, I 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.360 got the charts, I got everything. I said, why don't 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:41.920 you just going home? I beat there like half and 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.400 I don't worry about this that so I talked to 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.800 all the guys in the band. Didn't cut the track. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.360 He put it on the Wreck pent my song now, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.680 but that wasn't I wasn't satisfied with that, which everybody 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.880 else said. Man, we thought he kidding. I want a 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.960 song on Barry White that I wrote that he wrote 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.640 together the whole thing. So his manager live upstairs with 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.200 me on Ali Drive, Shoka can live next door here, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.600 very White lit upstairs. I wrote this tune for Verry 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.200 White card you got the Love right. He wouldn't record 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.640 it unless Stevie here. He wouldn't record, so I cut 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.680 it on Shotka. Can we have number one record on 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.120 Rufus and Shotgun. Yeah you got the love Rubig Shotgun. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.440 So now I'm getting a little more respect from Barry Whitey. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.040 You know. It's like that little kid, that little punk 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.560 kid rolled a hit some of that, and that's when 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.040 they call me a little punk kid, you know, because 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.000 it was snody knows punk kid talks too much. Where's 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.040 too much flashy stuff. So you know, Barry white comes 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.000 over to the department because his road manager and lived upstairs, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.080 and he's very white. So he's parking wherever he wants. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.720 He parked his kind of right where the gate thing is. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.080 It's O can't nobody to get in there. You can't 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.080 abody get in. So me not thinking about that. All 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.520 I'm thinking about is I want him to cut my song. Yeah, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.680 So I get in my car, I go get it, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.760 put the cassette and the corn. I'm a blast and 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.800 I drive around thing. Then I triggered the thing up. Oops, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.680 and he's got his white Mark three and the gates 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.520 kid it. It lifted the front of his car up 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.000 off the ground and then the car was heavy to 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.720 the gate, so the gate fell off the thing and 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.360 then crashed on top of his car and for and 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.760 for the people that's watching. I don't know if y'all know, 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.880 but in R and B music, Very White it's probably 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:26.960 top two gangsters all time, probably not number two. He's 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:32.360 probably my number two real gangster, real gangster. So he 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.520 looked at me and said, thanks for I needed that, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.920 you know. His cards off to him, and I said, yeah, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.480 but man, you know, I'm sorry, Mr White, but you 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.080 gotta listen to this song. So I played him the song. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.080 Believe it that I actually play him the song that 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.880 I give him a copy of song. He wrote the 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.160 lyrics to it, and that song it's called You See 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:53.920 the Trouble with Me We're so six man, right, And 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.240 then all of his writers were like, but you told 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.360 us nobody gets a song on Very White. No way, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.880 no how, nobody's writing a song everyway. And I'm like, 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.320 I got me a song fifty with Barry White, you know, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:10.040 so that's it. Congratulations. Yeah, Now, by the way, it's 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.479 business wise. I wanted to publish it, but I couldn't 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.960 get the post. Beery White said, you ain't getting the 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:20.320 publish you know, and nobody got published and at that 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.560 time in your career, and I like to tell new 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.960 people too. Sometimes you got to give up some stuff 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.240 that you normally wouldn't give up later, you know, once 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.480 you become Stevie wonder, you ain't gotta do that, you know, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.000 but in the beginning you might have to give up 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.280 a little bit to get something, you know. And having 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.240 a cut on Barry White at that time was very significant, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.000 you know. So I did that one. It was happy. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.760 I did, made a lot of money. You know, I'm 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:51.240 gonna mess up his car. Man said, if I get that, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.320 do whatever you want to do, whatever you want your question, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.000 then what no room for this? So this full here, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.800 this seguay till our next name. This fool here just 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.879 did an interview and he says, because listen, you you 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.199 here now, and you're somebody that can either confirm or 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:14.119 deny this this food gonna get on an interview and 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.240 say that Stevie wanted can see a little bit? No 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.840 he can't, right, you see a little bit? Can he? 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.760 Me and Stevie wanted the boys, I mean, we were 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.120 like more than just working together. And he feels see no, no, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:39.200 see like could he stay in a lane while driving 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:45.600 if you coached him and we did that, you did 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:55.000 what Lets Stevie want to drive? You have to tell 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.560 us how that plays out, because you're still here first. 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:03.840 I but I mean, I mean back in the day, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.480 you know. But this is before you know, all the 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.280 bodyguards and no, this is here. Yeah, but this is 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.480 after I quit the band too. I mean I'd already 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.879 quit the band and I'm out here and he's out here, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.639 and where were you still go pick him up all 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.080 the time with him and go hang out. We go 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.520 go girls house and just do some crazy stuff, you know, 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.640 and Steve were kicking. Yeah, yeah, I gotta you gotta 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.439 hurry if it becomes Stevie, I have that kind of 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:33.119 talk man killing us right now. So there, if you 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.880 go down let's see, I think San Vicente wherever it ends, 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.920 somewhere near Pico or something goes way down there. There 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:44.359 was like a may company or a big department store 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.119 something down there, you know. So anyway, Stevie thought we 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.800 were on lost the end of or something. He wanted 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.680 to drive, So I put in the car and I 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.320 told him when we get to the light, you're gonna 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.320 do this. And then but we really were in the 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.679 parking lot of Make Company, like two in the morning. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:12.520 What nobody there, right, So he wanted to drive. He's 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.080 really good at driving. But I said, when I say left, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.280