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Speaker 1: let's just start with the overview here. This has to

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Speaker 1: team that was thirty games below five hundred, one of

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Speaker 1: will remember back way back in June getting swept by

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Speaker 1: the Rockies in Miami. This is probably in that same

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Speaker 3: Mean it's either those one or the Rockies one. Right,

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Rockies one probably just I would

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Speaker 3: It's just a terrible series for the Marlins. Could have

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Speaker 2: The only reason I'm not more concerned frankly, is just

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Speaker 2: I agree Kevin that if he goes out at the

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Speaker 2: If he struggles again, they're gonna have to be a

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Speaker 1: Well, what I'll say about today in particular is it

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Speaker 3: one down in this case. But yeah, I think it's

434
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Speaker 3: a fine player. I think the underlying stuff certainly is good.

435
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Speaker 3: But he has a pretty ugly swing and not a

436
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Speaker 3: great approach. So we have to see if he if

437
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Speaker 3: he find tunes up before we make any certain claims

438
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 3: that he will be on the twenty twenty six bring

439
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Speaker 3: training roster.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want to call it, it's it's one way putting.

441
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: It's an unorthodox swing, you could call it.

442
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: From our articles.

443
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: So a lot of a lot of moving parts in

444
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: the swing. You know what type of player this guy

445
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: justin Maxwell, that type of maybe remember Bringe, fourth outfielder,

446
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: guy that could play like all like Kevin said, all

447
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: three out of that was the first thing that came

448
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: to my head. Justin Maxwell is it, and I think

449
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: Justin Maxwell is probably better. I don't think Weamer is

450
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Speaker 2: gonna have as good of a season or seasons as

451
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Speaker 2: Maxwell did have with Houston. He had a pretty decent

452
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: one with Kansas City as well.

453
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: That was twenty twenty three, I found out. Not great,

454
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: but that was Weimer's first homer since twenty twenty three.

455
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't like either player, but I do

456
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: like Victor Mason Junior better. So I do hope that

457
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: they're they're valuing him his pointing time more than Weamer.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

459
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Speaker 3: Then yeah, with hell with he'll probably Yeah, I think

460
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Speaker 3: his season is so over right, I would have to assume, right, like, yes, nothing, Yeah,

461
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: him and him, and I guess Dane too, and Dane

462
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: very unlikely to come back.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dane with an oblique strain. Actually, this is a

464
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Speaker 1: good opportunity just to get caught up on this injury

465
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Speaker 1: situation because well, yeah, I mean, we're still kind of

466
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Speaker 1: pending the confirmation on on Edward, but certainly I think

467
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: we'll get the final word either tomorrow or Friday about

468
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: him going on the al with his albow concern. This

469
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,959
Speaker 1: is the overview here about everybody that's hurt. Look at

470
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Speaker 1: all the guys on the bottom that are on the

471
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Speaker 1: sixty day. Il Weathers is coming back. Co Nine we

472
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: think very likely to come back, all those other guys

473
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: done for the season, and then you just look up

474
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: the guys on the forty man that could be moved

475
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Speaker 1: to the sixty day if needed, like Edward Jansen. Junk

476
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Speaker 1: is coming back. We made a rehab start yesterday. We

477
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Speaker 1: expect him back as soon as Monday from the IL.

478
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Speaker 1: But Dane we'll see and Declan Cronin he's hurt. Gusto

479
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 1: we don't know, probably unlikely that he's coming back. And

480
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, but that's kind of an overview of everybody

481
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: that's that's banged up right now. To create these opportunities

482
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Speaker 1: for all these other players. A reminder that when guys

483
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Speaker 1: are on the major league injured list, they still get

484
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: paid their regular salaries. So for people beating up the

485
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: Marlins for being very cheap and spending less on payroll

486
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Speaker 1: than any other teams, that these are unexpected expenses that

487
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Speaker 1: they've so many guys heard. At the same time they

488
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Speaker 1: have to pay, like yeah, paying the twenty eight active

489
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: Big leaguers, and they're playing all these guys on the

490
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Speaker 1: injured list, so they're paying like forty something guys major

491
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Speaker 1: league salaries.

492
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Speaker 3: At the same time Tyler Zuber is getting paid.

493
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Speaker 1: Tyler Zuber is getting and accruing.

494
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Speaker 3: Major league service time I believe right.

495
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Speaker 1: Yes, correct, wow, proxy major league service sign for him

496
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: and for for Ryan Gusto as well as just about

497
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: all those guys. Yeah, so that is coming overview about

498
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: where things stands with that. And Weathers is making what

499
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Speaker 1: should be his final rehab start tomorrow night in Jacksonville.

500
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Speaker 1: So assuming that goes, the rotation outlook potentially for the

501
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Speaker 1: rest of the year, assuming that rehab goes just fine

502
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: for Weathers, is that you still have Sandy, you still

503
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Speaker 1: have Yuri available to work through this, you have junk

504
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: coming back Weathers, and then you have Adam Maser, who

505
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Speaker 1: I think is kind of set up to spends these

506
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Speaker 1: last few weeks in the rotation as long as he

507
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Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt. And I mean Isaac's final word on

508
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: major he watched his start like it is weird. He

509
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: allowed a bunch of hits, but a lot of good

510
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: moments in there.

511
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Speaker 2: So a lot of good moments a few good moments,

512
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Speaker 2: I should say, the best being in that sixth inning

513
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: when he put himself in a jam and he had

514
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: the meat of that very very interesting Nationals lineup, struck

515
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: out James Wood, retired CJ.

516
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: Abrams, and to be able to complete six innings for the.

517
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Speaker 2: First time since his Major League debut last year as

518
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Speaker 2: a member of the San Diego Padres. So you got

519
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: to take that positively, and then you look at the

520
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: bad Just a lot of soft contact that found a

521
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: lot of grass, as Clay McCollough said, especially that second inning,

522
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: a few little flairy doubles on the right field line

523
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Speaker 2: and left field line, and then followed by another hit

524
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Speaker 2: by Marlon Killer Jacob Young, So it seemed a lot

525
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: of He seemed to be pretty unlucky. I believe his

526
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: FIP was in the threes versus his GAMI was in

527
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Speaker 2: the sixes. So an unlucky start, and to me, it

528
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: showed a lot that he was able to complete six innings,

529
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Speaker 2: like I said, for the first time in a long time.

530
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Speaker 2: And he's in line to face the film on Sunday

531
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Speaker 2: against Taiwan Walker if I'm not mistaken, So another opportunity

532
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Speaker 2: to face the Phillies.

533
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Speaker 3: Yet again at home more friendly environment hopefully so I

534
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: saw hope for Maz.

535
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Speaker 2: I think he can be a pretty solid number four,

536
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Speaker 2: number five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One other news I of I want to get

538
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Speaker 1: to today Jacob Marcy officially winning nationally Rookie of the

539
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Speaker 1: Month for August the first Marlin's Rookie of the Month

540
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Speaker 1: since Trevor Rogers back in his year. I remember still

541
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Speaker 1: vividly Trevor winning those back to back Rookie of the

542
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Speaker 1: Month awards at the start of twenty twenty one, and

543
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: that was the last time her team this year that

544
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: is stuffed with rookies. There have been great moments from

545
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: Augustine when he got called up from even from a

546
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: Roberto when at times when he got off to a

547
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: hot start on oh I missing that that really stood

548
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: out far and PAULI had his good moments, but in

549
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Speaker 1: terms of a full month actually being the best in

550
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Speaker 1: the NL, it was Marcy and he kind of I

551
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: had an article prepared on this for several days because

552
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: it was obvious, like it was a slam dunk that

553
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna win this an ops of like ten

554
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: to fifty eight over the course of the month to

555
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: go along with a bunch of stolen bases, playing good

556
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: in center field, like two wins above replacement in a

557
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: single month. That is a very good rookie year for anybody.

558
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: And to do that in a single month, your very

559
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: first month in the big leagues. Yeah, this guy couldn't

560
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: really expected anything more. Kevin like, he kind of stepped

561
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: into the void when Hasius Sanchez left and then he

562
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: he had a month that was honestly better than any

563
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: single month that Sanchez had in his whole Marvelin's career.

564
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Speaker 1: That's not really to knock Sanchez, that's just to put

565
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: in perspective how valuable Marcy was right away to start

566
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Speaker 1: his big ley career.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said he's been great. I mean since the

568
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: day he got up here or up to Miami facing

569
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: the Yankees that first game was great. He three walks

570
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: against three high leverage arms and the starter, well two

571
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: high leverage arms in the starter had the hit as well.

572
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 3: Like he he's a great show off the power too,

573
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: which I don't really think he had in him, at

574
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Speaker 3: least at the next level. So it's been impressed on

575
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 3: what he's been able to do and as well at

576
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: the speed the defense playing all three outfield spots too

577
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: pretty well. So it's it's a guy who for a

578
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: while had those underlying numbers that really just you know,

579
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: you knew he had. He got on base a lot,

580
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, made good decisions, had a good play approach

581
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: at the plate, but really never broke through in the

582
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: minor leagues and finally in Triple A was able to

583
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: break through this season and then showing and he's been great,

584
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: So good for him. Hopefully he finished out the season

585
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: strong and he probably penciled in as your starting center

586
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: field you're in twenty twenty six.

587
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: Already he was over the month going into today a

588
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: little bit worried there.

589
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: Over seven in the first point number.

590
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Right away he shows you just how good he is

591
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: offensively and how comfortably he is in that box after

592
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: looking at everyone in the whole lineup, looked over match

593
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: against this pitiful Nationals pitching staff. But it's good to

594
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: see him get back on the today.

595
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: The little thing that continues to impress me is for

596
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: a guy that was he was genuinely bad against lefty

597
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: pitching in the miners last year and this year this

598
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: year when he was putting up it was so good

599
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: at triple A overall, like there were huge platoon splits.

600
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: He was not really hitting lefties in the miners, and

601
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, small sample size in the big leagues,

602
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: it's an ops like close to twelve hundred against lefties,

603
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: including a couple of home runs. He's not striking out

604
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: against them either, So like that's kind of the one

605
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: knock I had the major thing that made me wonder,

606
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: is he really going to be an everyday player at

607
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: the big leagues, And that is still not entirely proven

608
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: one way or the other, but it's just kind of

609
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: stretch that he didn't even have in the miners against

610
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: same handed pitching. So the two more hits today have

611
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: to break out of his slump, his little zero for

612
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: seven slump today to get a pair of hits in there. Yeah,

613
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: he continues to impress me. Probably not going to win

614
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: another Rookie of the Month award in September, but but

615
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: we'll see. They're going to give him, especially with all

616
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: these injuries piling up, he's going to be playing basically

617
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: every day to this point, you got to give him.

618
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: I guess one small thing that I've enjoyed about this

619
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: season is that they're really letting the kids play and

620
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: not giving them off days unless they really need it.

621
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: He is thirty three for thirty three in terms of

622
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: playing every single game that the Marlins have had to

623
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: this point in the season. So just keep throwing him

624
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: out there unless there's a guy that really deserves it,

625
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: or unless there's any sort of slump. But there really

626
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: has not been anything close to that to this point,

627
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: and that's why he's been in there every single day

628
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: either as a starter coming off the bench. So yeah,

629
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Speaker 1: he is. Well, we're going to tease it a little

630
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: bit more towards the end of the stream, but we

631
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: have our New Fish Unfiltered episode with Clinton McCullough publishing tomorrow,

632
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: and he mentioned Marcy as well and that and the

633
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: plan is that he's going to continue to hit either

634
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: second or third in the lineup up basically every single

635
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: day down the stretch, whether it's against a lefty or

636
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: a righty, to uh, to keep proving himself. And he

637
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that, even when this team is healthy,

638
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: that he's going to be in the heart of this

639
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: lineup for the foreseable future, because uh, he looks so

640
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: legit already. What else did I want to get to.

641
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: I think we could start looking ahead a little bit

642
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: to this Phillies series. I think my expectation is that

643
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: because Valenti Beaozo is kind of the one guy in

644
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: his bullpen that was not used the last few days,

645
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: that he's probably going to be starting the series opener

646
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: for the Marlins. They've already announced that Sandy is starting

647
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: on Saturday, coming off a series of excellent outings for him,

648
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and then and then we'll figure out what what Sunday

649
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: happens to be with this team, because they'll have that

650
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: full rotation back in effect next week once Junk comes

651
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: off the I L and Weathers. But this is kind

652
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: of a vulnerable time for a team that's already playing

653
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: pretty poorly that they kind of have to have these

654
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: makeshift spot star bullpenned games. This weekend's coming up against

655
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: a first place Philly's team. But yeah, because we know

656
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: that Sandy is starting, I guess there's another opportunity to

657
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: talk about him and how how awesome he's been. That

658
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: this is now four straight starts, Isaac, where he's been,

659
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: he's looked so close to kind of the vintage version

660
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: of himself. We've been. There were times earlier on where

661
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: we kind of tried to squint and see the old Sandy,

662
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: but now you really don't have to do it like

663
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: it's it's as clear as day that he has been

664
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: just everything is clicking for him and the results are

665
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: backing it up, and all of a sudden, he's really

666
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: ending this season on a high note after being terrible

667
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: for so much of it.

668
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: There were two nice stretches off Sandy season so far.

669
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: Is that two game stretch where I believe it was

670
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: San Diego and one other team and he looked good

671
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: and he more looked like twenty twenty one, and I'd

672
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: like to say there were still some issues there, but

673
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: these last four starts against Boston, Saint Louis, Atlanta, and

674
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: New York, he has truly looked like vinterg Sandy. And

675
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 2: it all goes back to the changeup commands. He is

676
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: finally locating that pitch and putting in exactly where he wants.

677
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: That allows syncred fastball to play up. The command of

678
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: those pitches has been excellent, the curve balls doing what

679
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: he needs to do. Every off speed pitch has been

680
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 2: doing exactly what he did in twenty twenty basically, and

681
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: it looks like he's finally adjusted back with the coaching staff,

682
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: with the new pitching coach, and sort of adjusted back

683
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: towards the league on I guess the different type of

684
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: arsenal that he's gonna utilize.

685
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, in those.

686
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: Four starts, Sandy has gone six innings and then seven

687
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: seven seven against frankly four pretty good teams that maybe

688
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: it'said from Saint Louis. But in those four games and

689
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: one six seven ERA two six two fIF Loud only

690
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: walked five guys compared to twenty nine strikeouts. He's just

691
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: pitched excellently over these last four starts, and I hope

692
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: to see you going against Philadelphia on Saturday. He's gonna

693
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: be a really fun one on Saturday against haesus Lozardo

694
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: at Lone Deepot Park at four ten. That'll be followed

695
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 2: by Christopher Sanchez on Friday for the Philly So it's

696
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough home stand against a couple of

697
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: lefties for Philadelphia going.

698
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: I think it was Tellan Walker.

699
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: On Sunday, But yeah, Sandy, hopefully we see him push

700
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: through for the rest of the year and end out

701
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: really on top for Sandy, I guess after a really

702
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: tough year.

703
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: M there's a peek at the position players without going

704
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: deep into a particular lineup, but this is all the

705
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: hitters on both of these active rosters for now. This

706
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: is my I had not realized it, but yes, Brian

707
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Navareto is on the Marlins roster. We have not seen

708
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: him in a game yet, but when he appears, that

709
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: will break a five year drought between his Marlins appearances

710
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: at the big league level. So seeing him at the

711
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: top of the screen, this is a good chance that

712
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: he gets into a game this weekends, so good for him.

713
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: But other than that, that's kind of an overview of

714
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: where things stands. As referenced before, we think Derek Hill

715
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: is gonna go on the I l so well to

716
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: wait and see exactly what the corresponding move for that

717
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: is probably not gonna be anything too sexy in terms

718
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: of who they call up, Oh doct Jack Winkler. Yeah,

719
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: that that's the speculation is that Jack Winklear would make

720
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of sense as a to keep the seat

721
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: warm while the other guys are finishing up the rehabits semens,

722
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: mainly Kyle Stowers being potentially just a few days away

723
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: from coming back himself from his oblique injury, and yeah,

724
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: on the Philly side, it's it's gonna be fun to

725
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: watch Kyle Schwarber Kevin coming down the stretch like he's

726
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: he's kind of the one guy that might be able

727
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: to wrestle away an l m VP from Shoeyotani and

728
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: he's how many homeworns does he have at the moment?

729
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: Is he had forty nine? Yeah, he's that's the one

730
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: that he's at the top of the screen. But that's

731
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of the guy that was top of mind for me.

732
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: We know a lot of these Phillies hitters, they've had

733
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: so much continuity with their team, but yes, Schwarber is

734
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: the one that on a team that has allowed good

735
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: position players and the team that has so much star power,

736
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: he's the one that's having the biggest year and obviously

737
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: doing in the home run department, having a four homer

738
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: game just a few days ago. Yeah, that's gonna be

739
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: interesting to watch it. He like continues to do his

740
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: best to win, to contend for an MVP as a

741
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: DH in a way that just rarely happens.

742
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, well, I guess show. Yeah, show

743
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: I had won of last year only as a DH,

744
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah, he definitely has the

745
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: best chance to do it, right. I mean, he's forty

746
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: nine home runs. The way he's played, it's crazy. He's

747
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: only thirty two. I thought he was a lot older

748
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: than that, but no, he's thirty two years old and

749
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: he's been around for a very long time. So the

750
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: fact that he's still doing this at this age is

751
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: is really just impressive. And he's been great since going

752
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: to Philly. I mean, forty six homers in twenty two,

753
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: forty seven and twenty three, thirty eight and twenty twenty four,

754
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: and then this year, you know, forty nine, which leads

755
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: the majors and also has one hundred and nineteen RMB eyes.

756
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: So he he doesn't really good to know. It's a

757
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 3: fun watch for sure, So I'm looking forward to seeing

758
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: him the next couple of days. Hopefully he doesn't do

759
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: too much against the Marlins, but knowing the Marlins like

760
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: he will, he's probably the best choice for a se

761
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: years on VP.

762
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, fascinating MVP discussion if Kyle Forward can somehow win,

763
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: and I don't believe that voter fatigue should ever be

764
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: a thing. I don't, you know, give it to the

765
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: best season. But man, what a funny thing that would

766
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: be if hel Show ends up winning there. He leads

767
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: a league in RBI, he leads a league in homers.

768
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: Obviously he's got a nine forty three ohps compared to

769
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: show his nine to ninety eight obviously show he's way

770
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: more in the winds ab of replacement book, Matt. It

771
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: would be really something of kel Schober. We're able to

772
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: somehow secure an MVP. I think you sho Show he

773
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: would have to pitch really, really poorly, and Shove would

774
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: have to continue and maybe reach sixty home runs in

775
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: order for him to maybe make it a discussion. But

776
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: it wouldn't really be something.

777
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, weird MVP like season for

778
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: like on both sides, right, like potentially shorter for the NL,

779
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: and then you have color rally of all people, right,

780
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: you know that's for the AL. So it would be

781
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: cool to see, you know, different names obviously than the

782
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: same Judge and Otani's, but they've both been awesome too,

783
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: So it's it's a fun race for both sides, right.

784
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: Fascinating free agency for Shoreber as well. He's gonna enter

785
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: age thirty two free agency, you said, d H. Only

786
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: he's putting together the best season of his career. What's

787
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: he gonna get where a team's willing to give him,

788
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: where they will be willing to give him four or

789
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: five years?

790
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

791
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fascinating free agency.

792
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: No, Marbins won't be on it. Marls won't be in

793
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: on him.

794
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: But right, I.

795
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: Remember when they were kind of discussing it when they

796
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: opted for Sowe or not opted for They're just gonna

797
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: afford shortb That's when I really wanted them to get Shorb.

798
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: I remember that. Yeah, it was in twenty twenty one,

799
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: I believe. Yeah, twenty twenty, No, twenty twenty two, right.

800
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one, twenty.

801
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: One going into the twenty two season.

802
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, this will be even more fascinating first forver. No,

803
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: you can't wait to see what ends what ends up happening.

804
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: It's just really rare to see a guy that is

805
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: at least on a salary per year basis. He's gonna

806
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: get more money this time around, even if it's not

807
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: total years, at least money per year in his he's

808
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: gonna be heading into thirty three than he did at

809
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: twenty nine. You just never see that at all, Like

810
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: usually the big money is gonna come when you're in

811
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: your late twenties, and he's just the previous few years

812
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: have gone very well for him, but now all of

813
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: a sudden, just a perfectly timed walk here where he's

814
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: been better than ever. And even for a guy that

815
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: historically has had such a low batting average, all of

816
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, this year he's like back up to league

817
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: average in that department, and you combine that with the power,

818
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fascinating. And it comes out a

819
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: time where it's just before any of that lockout CBA concerns.

820
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: This is gonna be the last normal off season before that.

821
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: So just lines up perfectly for him where even if

822
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: he stays with the Phillies, the phil are probably gonna

823
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: be the favorite to resign him. At least they cost

824
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: him more money. They'll have to make some decisions at

825
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: other parts of their roster if they want to keep forward.

826
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: So maybe in a little small way, the Marlins canna

827
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: are they wouldn't mind rooting for him to individually hike

828
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: up his own price if it means that it makes

829
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: other decisions more difficult for the Phillies as a result

830
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, the other, I guess the most notable

831
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: a couple of notable roster changes for the Phillies since

832
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: they last played the Marlins. Harrison Bader. They acquired him

833
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline from the Twins, so he's playing

834
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: quite a bit of left field and center field for them,

835
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: and he's been pretty good. And they also just signed

836
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: Walker Buehler, the guy that I'm very familiar with because

837
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: I looked at him very closely as I thought maybe

838
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: the Marlins would take a flyer on him last off season.

839
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: He ended up getting a lot more money than I

840
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: thought he should have gotten and that ended up very

841
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: poorly for the Red Sox that cut him very recently.

842
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 1: And now the Phillies have added him. They don't think

843
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: that he's gonna appear I think, right, so he won't

844
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: factor into this series. He's going to apparently pitch for them,

845
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: and they'll give him a shot to earn some sort

846
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: of role heading into the postseason for them. That's going

847
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: to be very weird for a guy that's just having

848
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: an awful season. That had an awful year last year

849
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: during the regular season and just did enough in the

850
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: playoffs to get people hopeful again and to help the

851
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Dodgers win the World Series last year. But during the

852
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: actual regular season games ever since coming back from Tommy John,

853
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: he has been really ineffective. So that's a weird player.

854
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: Duran joining their in the back end of their bullpen,

855
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: and it's been pretty much spectacular, just as advertised for

856
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: the for the Phillies at thirteen games at ten and

857
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: two thirds and he's pitched one six' nine e ra

858
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: and just striking out. Everybody it's not going to be

859
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: a fun test for The marlins to have to face.

860
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: Them i'm not as big of a fan as of

861
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: his walk in entrance as a lot of people. ARE

862
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: i don't really enjoy. IT i think there's other ones

863
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: that are way. Cooler but, no what do you mean

864
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: the best?

865
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: ONE A. J pucks was. Better Trevor hoffmans was. Better,

866
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: NO A. J puck was, Better and they do the

867
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: same thing at the ballpark every. Time, SPANISH i don't like.

868
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: It but because you have an issue with, It, Okay

869
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: i'm sending this To Danny. Alvarez not that It's.

870
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: Spanish it, said it's like it feels like a club

871
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: in there for an.

872
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: ENTRANCE i don't like. That it's not A dj. Sport but, Anyway,

873
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 3: yes there are many that are better than that, one

874
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: but right now that one is the best. One mm,

875
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: hmm yeah you want To stina walk up. SONG i

876
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: Think Edwin diaz is by far. Better, yeah it's not

877
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: as popular as it once, was but, YEAH.

878
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: I was in the ballpark to See edwin's. Entrance it

879
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: must have Been, Saturday. Saturday, yeah it. Wasn't it wasn't

880
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: like the ideal time for that because they were actually

881
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: The mets were down by run in that, moment and

882
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: he ended up actually allowing to, run so it wasn't

883
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: even effective when they were actually trailing in the. Game

884
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: doesn't really hit the, same but it also wasn't at

885
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: it was the sun had not. Set when it's at.

886
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: NIGHT i, think in generally, speaking whether when it's it

887
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: hits a lot better when it's at night and they're

888
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: able to two more things with the. Lights SO i

889
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: was able to see The edwin one that wasn't particularly

890
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: memorable this time around because of the, circumstances but he

891
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: Had duran has been awesome for them to this, point

892
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: and he's also is under control for two more YEARS

893
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: i think after this. Years, yeah so that's that's a

894
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: move Where Dave dembraski is always aggressive and the fact

895
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: that he was able to actually get a guy with club,

896
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: control he trade some of his best prospects to get it,

897
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: done and more often than, that those deals are kind

898
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: of working out for The. Phillies that's why they've been

899
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: in contention now for four straight. Years and, yeah a

900
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: tough break for The marlins to be in their division

901
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: and happening to deal with this team thirteen games because

902
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: they do a lot of their very aggressive team and

903
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: they make a lot of good. Decisions so that Is,

904
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: yeah they're here and they are very well set to

905
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: win This National Geese division this. Year, okay the last

906
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: thing before we go into prediction, time it's a good

907
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to just plug the Upcoming, unfiltered the first episode

908
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: that we've done in a little while with you guys In.

909
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: CLAYTON i was able to watch behind the scenes AND

910
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: i got to finish editing that stuff and cutting up

911
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: some fun clips for everybody to. Share just give people

912
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: a sneak teek in terms of what they you, know

913
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: what do you guys covered on this conversation With.

914
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: Clayton he was very, honest So i'll give him. That

915
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: we appreciate that for. Sure dove into some of the

916
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: moves he as you can see from the teaser klippy

917
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: he did ask us which moves we did not agree

918
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: with maybe and he he you, know we've spoken to

919
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: him quite a bit, off you, know off the record and,

920
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: stuff and he's well aware of Fish on first and

921
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: what it, is and he appreciates our work and this is.

922
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: Fun this is a fun. Time we dove into quite

923
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: a bit and we appreciate His it was thirty. Minutes

924
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 3: it's quite a bit of you, know a long time

925
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: or for what it. Is and right before he essentially

926
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: did this and then r after that went out to

927
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: talk to the, media so he essentially did two scrums

928
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 3: in one. Day so very much, appreciated dove into the

929
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: line of construction against the lefties and all that. Stuff

930
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: So i'm not gonna spoil too much, more but, yes it,

931
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: was it was very good.

932
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: STUFF i think What i'm most proud of is that

933
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: we got him to show a little bit of personality.

934
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: There he really did show who he was a little,

935
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: bit you, know off.

936
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: Camera you see him in scrums on Fan Duel Sports,

937
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: network you see him when he's doing a formal.

938
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: Interview but he sort of laid back a little bit

939
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: with us and chit chatted and asked us our opinion

940
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: on a few.

941
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Things we, did you, know give him, FLACK i.

942
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: Guess for some of the.

943
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: Moves we did mention the irregularities of certain guys be

944
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: used in certain situations out of the, bullpen and we

945
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: talked about lineup, construction Like kevin, said and a lot

946
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: of fun.

947
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: STUFF i recommend you listen in thirty minutes. Long should

948
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: be out.

949
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: Tomorrow and uh, yeah very nice. Guy so don't don't

950
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: be too harsh when you guys See Josh simpson pitching

951
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: the ninth inning of a tight.

952
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: Game well wait a, minute yes there's a reason to be.

953
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Harsh but he's a good. Guy he's actually really cool,

954
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: dude like when we spoken to him the many. Times so,

955
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: yeah he's he's. COOL i Like. Clayton Clayton clain's a good. Dude,

956
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: YEAH i hope he's watching. This he watches these every

957
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: once in a.

958
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: While so, yeah he spoke to us out of the

959
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: dugout the other day, saying, uh, OH i always watched

960
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: when you guys predict us to lose and when when

961
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: you guys do we want to get the?

962
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: Win and SO i hope he doesn't think about that

963
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: in the. Dugout but, yeah apparently.

964
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: On our usual scheduling when we previously did the hour

965
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: leading in the first pitch would be very difficult for

966
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: him to. Watch but with this new scheduling, format AND

967
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: i don't know what he's up to after the game.

968
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: On the, watching he's got the headphones in and he's

969
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: locked in watching right.

970
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: NOW i think this may be a more convenient time

971
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: in terms Of marlin's organization to actually get our full

972
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: insights on what's going on with the.

973
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: Team he doesn't make the, decisions apparently joking he.

974
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: Does, yeah, yeah we'll let him state his. Case it

975
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: should be said that as much as we appreciate, him

976
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: it's ultimately up to each person to decide how much

977
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: they buy and how much they, don't because this is

978
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: still just you, know public comments from. Him we we

979
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: think he was very honest and transparent and, forthcoming but

980
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: ultimately still it's it's on the, record and there's only

981
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: so much stuff you can say on the record that

982
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: compared to the true nitty gritty that's going on but

983
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: behind the. Scenes but, YEAH i enjoyed it very much

984
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: and it was glad to catch up with him in

985
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: person briefly these past few days early in the road.

986
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Trip so with that being, said we are Going we're

987
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: still going to do prediction, time even though we're two

988
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: full days ahead of the next. Series we're going to

989
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: keep with the usual routine on. Here so without further, ado.

990
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: This is prodiction.

991
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: TIME i think we're gonna win a lot of, games

992
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot more games than you think we're gonna win this. Year, Yes,

993
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: so as we've been doing all the, year we keep

994
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: track of how many games The marlins are going to

995
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: win and your SERIES mvp is the term by win. Probability,

996
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: added we keep the predictions from our, staffers are super,

997
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: subs and our live stream guests on these. Shows so

998
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: this is updated like a very little movement on the.

999
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: Leaderboard just because very few people expected The marlins to

1000
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: lose this series to such a Struggling nats. Team it's

1001
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: got a little bit tighter on. TOP i know That

1002
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Sean millirick has been watching in our audience for most

1003
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: of this. Show he crept up a little, bit so

1004
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: he's still very much in the. Race Hector rodriguez up

1005
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: top by a few, points among ahead of our next

1006
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: best super. Subs at this point there are you, know

1007
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: we're just seven more series to, go so there is

1008
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: still some wiggle room, here but anybody below the cutoff

1009
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: is ESSENTIALLY i think at this point everybody below the

1010
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: cutoff has mathematically eliminated myself, Included isaac, concluded and a

1011
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: lot of. Others so this is kind of part of

1012
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: the case for why we can do prediction times so

1013
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: far in, advance because we're all pretty terrible at making.

1014
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: Predictions even heading into first, pitch even when we have

1015
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: all the information about starting pitching probables and injuries and

1016
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: stuff like, that it did not really translate to making accurate.

1017
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: Predictions so why not still do it this time around

1018
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: with a few days further in, advance even lacking some.

1019
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: Information SO i have the background set. Up it's a

1020
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: three game set between these. Teams we usually lead off

1021
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: as usual With kevin on. HERE i will get the

1022
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: music going for our super subs that are. Watching there

1023
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: will still be a page set up on the site

1024
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: leading up to first pitch where you can leave those

1025
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: predictions as, Well so it still plenty of time for

1026
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: you guys to decide out. There but we're going to

1027
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: give our own picks right now ahead of. Time so

1028
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: let me get the music going and then give it

1029
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: up To kevin to make his predictions.

1030
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: With the m V. P Sorry, clayton but uh gotta

1031
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: go with the gotta move game some. GROUND i Hope

1032
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: i'm proven, wrong But philly stick two out of three

1033
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: Shore bers THE.

1034
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Mvp all, right that worked, Out, isaac go, ahead.

1035
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: ALRIGHTY i do think that The marls for some reason

1036
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: played better when they're not favored against two tough lefty

1037
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: pitchers and Luzardas christmas and Just morlands win two out of.

1038
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: Three H John Mayberry Junior SERIES.

1039
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: Mvp give an actual. Please Oh i'm proud that you

1040
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: knew that wasnt occur In philly to a good.

1041
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: SHIP i.

1042
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: Know i'm as stick with.

1043
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Mine i'm already mathematically, Okay oh my.

1044
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: God that's that's. Fair, Yeah i'm very. Organically there has

1045
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: now become this pattern among my staffers to send me

1046
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: M vp picks that are not active players. Anymore, no

1047
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: but whatever that. Is that that's kind of what he

1048
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: was going for. There i'm gonna have The phillies winning

1049
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: two out of three in this. Series. MARLINS i think

1050
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: that met series with an anomaly that This marlins team

1051
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: is just so banged up at this point and it's

1052
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: hard to be motivated at this time of year under these.

1053
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Circumstances SO i think The phillies take another series and

1054
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: THEY'RE mvp as. Usual i'll go with some left handed

1055
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: bat on this. Team schwarber is a little bit. Obvious

1056
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: why Not Max? Kepler Max kepler is gonna have some

1057
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: some big hits over the course of these next few

1058
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: days to make the difference over the weekends In. Miami,

1059
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay fish On First live With Eli Susman Kevin barrall

1060
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: As it's good to see some of the regulars in

1061
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: the live chat over the course of this, episode And

1062
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: i'm most excited just to repurpose this content, afterwards some

1063
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: of our segments that we discussed and To, yeah the

1064
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: biggest thing was just getting this onto the podcast feed

1065
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: as well at a time where some of our takes

1066
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: are don't age like Milk, like they're still current enough

1067
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: to still be useful to. People so if you are

1068
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: listening to this this, long hopefully a few of you

1069
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: will have found it on the fish on first podcast

1070
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: Channel Apple, spotify wherever you get your podcast is available,

1071
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: there and that's the same place where you can find

1072
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: The Unfiltered conversation With clayton as, Well so hopefully you

1073
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: listen to both of those back to back and enjoy

1074
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: what we're doing down the. Stretch so, yeah still exactly

1075
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: to be determined how we'll handle the streams for the

1076
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: rest of the, season but as long as we're able

1077
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