1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: If you don't know why you're fighting, you don't fight 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: very hard. I think that's a piece of this war 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: that that we have to understand. UH, the Ukrainians don't 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: have the same weapons, they don't have the same numbers 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: as the Russian army, but they have the will to 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: fight because they're fighting for their homeland. When you listen 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: to these people being drafted, many say I'm not gonna 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: go fight, but those that do say they're gonna go fight, 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: they don't even they can't even explain why. So I 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: was wondering about that myself and I thought we'd ask 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: somebody who knows. Mike Lions military endless we love have 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: to have on the show with these matters. Went to 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: West Point, has an M B A um all kinds 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: of military background stuff that I can tell you about 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: in a little bit. Bronze STARFER'S ACTIONS IN COMBAT. Mike Clins, 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Armstrong and getty show. Take good money, guys. 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm surprised at that take by a historian, 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: because you cannot dismiss this mobilization of these Russian troops 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: as really inconsequential. You look at every time in history. 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: The show at the larger industrial complex nation, even as 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: they lose battles along the way, wins these wars of attrition. 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: The Russia will figure out a way to get three 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: hundred thousand men to the front there to to reinforce, 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this in a second reinforce units 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: that are in real danger of being surrounded and almost 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: destroyed that they have there right now. But they'll figure 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: it out and they'll get them there and they'll be 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: fodder and they'll all die and, but, but that's what 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: they'll they'll do because that's what they've done historically for 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the past thousand years. So it's not over by any 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. Ukraine is going to have to 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: capitalize on this, the kind of lull on the Russian 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: side here in the next few months, hopefully during the wintertime, 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: in order for them to even try to gain some 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: kind of success. But it's going to still remain a 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: stalemate as long as as Russia is going to continue 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: to bring those kind of numbers to the to the front. Well, 38 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons we like to have you on, 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: because you're certainly not a guy that goes with just 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: whatever the conventional wisdom is on cable lows at the time. 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, because that's the opposite of 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing most sleep. But to back up just 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: a second. We we've been playing this clip from David 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: petreus Um uh UH, who was on CNN a week 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: or so ago, and he said after, you know, the 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: big blitzkrieg from Ukraine driving the Russians out of a 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: bunch of different areas and the success they had over 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: that Um several day period, David Petrea said the outcome 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: is no longer in doubt. Ukraine will win. It's just 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: a matter of time. Pretty definitive statement. Do you do? 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: You agree with I don't know. You know again, what's 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: happened is this. The battle has now been been been 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: formed in the south and the elite Russian units are 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to hold off what was initially the second 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: offense of of the Ukraine army and not not the 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: primary objective there, because Ukraine actually used that to the 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: to the east and to to take back land and 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: had lost before. What they ended up doing was dropping 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: all these bridges along the Dnepro river track, being those 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: elite Russian units now here's what will allow Ukraine to 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: win or claim more victory, and that is it's one 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: thing to see, you know, hundreds of soldiers that have 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: been surrendering ourselves, but you could see ten or twenty 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: thousand surrender in that part of the country and then 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: I'll change my mind and say, okay, then they have 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: a much better chance of winning. And that's possible because 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: right now we've created a kind of a battle of 68 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: the bulb situation where those troops are surrounded, won't be 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: able to get resupplied. Very simply, they need the men 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: to try to reassemble bridges and reassemble supply lines that 71 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: that have to come and if they don't get that 72 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: done in the next few months, especially, winner comes and 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna starve and freeze to death. It'll it'll be 74 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: a tremendous advantage on the side of Ukraine. So, you know, 75 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: again I'm just surprised to hear fourth star make that 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of comment, given the fact that Russia has tremendous 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: industrial superiority. As long as the West continues to support Ukraine, 78 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: then then there is some parody, at least on that side. Yeah, 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about the history of Russia. I've read enough 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: history of whether they're fighting Napoleon or or Hitler, Russia 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: has always been willing to just feed human beings into 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: battle until they until they finally get their way. Um, 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: so I've heard. I've heard it said. You've probably seen 84 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: the videos of the lines at the border of Russia 85 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: and Georgia. I mean miles long, of of young men 86 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: trying to get out of the country. And you know, 87 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: the one way flights all sold out. We've all heard that. 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: And but they're loaded today, right now, they are loading 89 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: people on buses and heading them my guests. I don't 90 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: know where to train them up and put them in 91 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: a uniform. How long will it take before these guys 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: are actually in the field with a gun? I heard months, 93 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: but are you thinking it's gonna be faster? Not? Yeah, 94 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: probably months. Um, maybe some that are closer a little sooner. 95 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: But and the and the rest again doesn't care that 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: they're having low morale or they don't care that they 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: won't have great weapons. They'll just literally pick weapons off 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: off the ground from dead Russian soldiers that they keep, 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: that they leave on the battlefield. Um, they also have 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: eleven time zones to go and get troops from so. 101 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: So they have the manpower that the media is showing 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: just these kind of snippets of of these small protesters, 103 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: but for every one of those there's ten thousand that 104 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: are just lining up and going because they have written 105 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: no choice, because they'll get thrown the gulag if if 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: they don't go. So Um. So you know that this 107 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: is a country that doesn't care about things like emotional 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: intelligence and troop morale, all these things that are there 109 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: are factors in our military that you keep you hear 110 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: people talk about all the time. They don't care. All 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: all they need is bodies to show up at the 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: front to to to stem the tide of a potential 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Ukrainian offense. UH, they care about destruction. That's the only 114 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: way that they project power. Yeah, that's interesting. You've probably 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: been on the field up against people that didn't necessarily 116 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: have a lot to fight for, but they find a 117 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: reason to fight. What's what's that all about? At some point? 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: Is it just survival or are you fighting for your friends? Yeah, 119 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: usually you go to war for the guide to left 120 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: to the right of you. You don't necessarily that's if 121 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: they don't fight for your country, so to speak, and 122 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: I do remember that. You know, I think we talked 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: about we saw, we heard stories, for example, of Russians 124 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: leaving behind food and mermaid cans. They're the same thing. 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: We saw that Desert Storm. We saw, uh, you know, 126 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: the enemy doesn't want to fight. But this, the difference 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: here is that this is Russia saying that this is 128 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: Russian land. Now, Vladimir Putin is telling you know they're 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: they're going to annex these regions. Here they think they're 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: fighting for their country, Um, but you put that on 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: the other side, the Ukraine military on the offensive is 132 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: fighting truly for something, getting back land they lost eight 133 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: years seven years ago, back when Russia took it back 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: in Um and. And if they keep going in the way, 135 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: in the way they're going, if they can threaten, for example, Crimea, 136 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: now Russia is really strategically hurt because that's probably their Alamo. 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: They can't lose Crimea. They have Sebastopol, they have the 138 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: only warm water port there. They were they were leasing 139 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: that land from Russia Prior Uh. They have to keep that. 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: So I think you'll see the majority of the mobilized 141 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: troops go to the south, go to Crimea go to 142 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: those areas to try to reinforce to keep mass effections 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: from taking place. So how much do you take the 144 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: nuclear threat seriously from Putin? I know we've been talking 145 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: about this for going on seven months now, but is 146 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: he any more likely than he was before to actually 147 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: go nuclear? I think that's the last thing he draws from. 148 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: It's going to depend how this mobilization goes. I think 149 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: that it's always on the table. It won't be as 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: UM devastating if he keeps it within the tactical nuke side, 151 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: as he'll just literally hit infrastructure go after civilians. It'll 152 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: fix the condensed force on the ground somewhat, but they'll 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: likely stay tucked up close to the Russian troops, knowing 154 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that you can't fire a tactical nuke on Ukraine forces 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: there because of the of the fallout and the damage 156 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: could possibly hit Russian troops. But then I might be 157 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: wrong because he doesn't care about Russian troops anyway. You 158 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: know he's he's eliminated layers within his chain of command 159 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's a lot to do with if 160 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: he does have to fire a nuclear weapon, he wants 161 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: to get it down to the execution phase as fast 162 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: as possible, because usually there's two man controlled any kind 163 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: of nuclear weapons. He doesn't want to get anybody in 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: between that order to all of a sudden decide, you 165 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: know what, we're not doing this. It's not the right 166 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: thing to do. That's not rush. Is Not about they're 167 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: not about the right thing. They're they're about doing what 168 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: I tell you to do. And so I think that's 169 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: why he's eliminated these these these impediments within the chain 170 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: of command because if he makes that order, he wants 171 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: to make sure to carry down. Wow, that is really interesting. 172 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you because Joe Biden said something on 173 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Sunday night that certainly got Joe and I his attention, 174 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: when he stated that US lives would be at stake 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: in Taiwan if China decided to invade Taiwan. How do 176 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: you feel about that? Yeah, we have to steer clear 177 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: from Taiwan. We we don't. What's the deterrence right now? 178 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: Is the only thing we can do to deter China 179 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: from doing anything in Taiwan? Isn't another kind of alliance 180 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to be being put together right now, 181 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: which it should be. It should be the g seven. 182 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, China needs imports as much as they export things. Right, 183 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean obviously a three thousand walmarts in America go 184 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: broke if they're not getting stuff from China. But on 185 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: the other side, China needs wheat, they need things from 186 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: the United States and Um, it's going to have to 187 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: be a non military to turn in order for us 188 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: to keep China from doing that, and it's got to 189 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: be the whole g seven saying we're gonna put sanctions, 190 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: real sanctions, on China that will actually be a lot 191 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: worse than, you know, Donald Trump's uh trade tariffs that 192 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: were that were put on because because if they if 193 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: there are people start as China has those kinds of 194 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: internal problems and they have revolution and that's what it's 195 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: going to take there. So I think we've not done 196 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: a good job. We're talking tough and it's military about 197 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: China right now, but if you think about it, our 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: our diplomats need to be clearing their desks and working 199 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: on a non military deterrent solution, which I think is 200 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: the g seven. I think it's the major countries of 201 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: the world thaying you just can't do this, we're gonna 202 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: shut you off in a way that you've never been 203 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: shut off before. Yeah, so I was listening to uh, 204 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: one of my favorite pundits the other day, Satan we we, we, we. 205 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: We should do the same thing that we've done with 206 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine. We and it's working. Worlds is rallied 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: on our side and not on Russia's side and over time, 208 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, the right thing will happen. Probably do the 209 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: same thing with China. How would you feel about U 210 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: S marines in Taiwan fighting the Chinese? Not a good no, 211 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: it's not a good look. I think that they still 212 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: out numbers us there and China will have I still 213 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: think China is that declining power, and that's not necessarily 214 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: their military has not proven itself to actually, when it's 215 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: in the crucible of battle, whether they can do something. 216 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: But we have to get to a season. I go 217 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: back to Ukraine. Let's get to a season here in Ukraine, 218 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: because if the Germans and the Italians are freezing, they 219 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: might get weak in the knees and decide to back 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: out of that. That can happen. That can happen in China. 221 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Go back to the age of that. We've got to 222 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: have Um that alliance put together beforehand. Let's let's try 223 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: to let's try to cut that problem off before, before 224 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: it comes an issue that the Chinese, if they decide 225 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: to do LURA battle, if they decide to go after 226 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: US carrier, sink a carrier, try to put you know, 227 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: try to get this one battle over very quickly. They'll 228 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: make a strategic mistake that that that, I think, will 229 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: really mean the downfall of China as well as we're 230 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: seeing almost the downfall of Russia to client states. Frankly, 231 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: they're both working together at this point. Mike Leons one 232 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,239 Speaker 1: of a handful of follows man when something breaks, Military 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: Wise War wise, you're one of the twitter feeds I 234 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: go to because I always wonder what you think. Appreciate 235 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: you coming on today. Thanks for me Armstrong and getty.