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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. US Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on a Tuesday. As we

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Speaker 2: have got plenty to get into, some fantasy football talk,

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Speaker 2: our Tuesday weekly power rankings, we gotta do a Tuesday rewind.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk a little bit about this playoff

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Speaker 2: picture now that the Chargers get a win last night

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Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football, and how that affects the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and the rest of the AFC. We're gonna talk to

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Speaker 2: Chris Adamski on this Tuesday, but as always, Matt will

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Speaker 2: start with a little news of the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, As Mike Tomlin spoke at noon today as he

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Speaker 2: always does on a Tuesday, and there was plenty to

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Speaker 2: get into. But as we kind of always start, I

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Speaker 2: think the biggest takeaway from these is the injury updates,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, right, and that is just that's what we're

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Speaker 2: always kind of waiting to hear from the head coach.

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Speaker 2: And here's what he had to say. Calvin Anderson is

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Speaker 2: still out with that knee injury. Will not play this

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Speaker 2: week against the Dolphins. With that, Andris Pete is still

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Speaker 2: in concussion protocol, so sure a lot to watch there

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Speaker 2: at the left tackle position. We'll get into that in

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Speaker 2: a minute. Darnell Washington Malik Harrison also still in the

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Speaker 2: concussion protocol and they're just gonna have to take it

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Speaker 2: day by day.

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Speaker 4: We knew they'd all be in the protocol, like as

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Speaker 4: long as you didn't rule them out like it's such

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Speaker 4: a bad one that then that's the We knew that

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Speaker 4: was going to be the.

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Speaker 2: News exactly right, and more often than not that ends

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Speaker 2: up being a weak absence. But we did also just

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Speaker 2: see James Pierre able to return in that regard this

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Speaker 2: past week, so not i''m clad and they do have

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Speaker 2: an extra day which is important in that regard. One

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Speaker 4: Then Washington's the most important of the group clearly to me,

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Speaker 4: even those three concussions.

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Speaker 2: Even with the potential up in the air at left

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Speaker 2: tackle with Calvin Anderson and Andrewstin.

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Speaker 4: All right, you should we'll get that in a minute.

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Speaker 4: To get to it now as well, cross that bridge there.

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Speaker 4: I think Pete is really a guard at this stage

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Speaker 4: of his career, and he didn't play a full game.

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Speaker 4: And it's a short it's a small evaw. But they

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Speaker 4: must have thought that too, because I remember when he

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Speaker 4: arrived on campus. At Saint Vincent's first two practices, he

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Speaker 4: to guard, you know, like, I don't think you're a

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Speaker 4: left tackle anymore, you know, And and his previous stops

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Speaker 4: kind of told you that. I mean, drafted as a

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Speaker 4: left tackle, moved in as he slowed down, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's what he is. This pass game against the Ravens,

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Speaker 4: I thought he was a liability. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 4: he was clearly their worst lineman. And again Cook only

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Speaker 4: played I don't know, eighteen twenty snaps whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: I mean a little less than half the game, I think.

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Speaker 4: But I thought Cook was better than him in the game.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, again I'm comparing thirty twenty snaps, but

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Speaker 4: I Spencer Anderson is probably better than both Colvison.

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Speaker 2: That's my thing, Like I would like to see him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And as we've mentioned a few times since training camp

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Speaker 2: and throughout this Roger Jones's injury process, he was the

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Speaker 2: you think that they at least value him enough, even

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Speaker 2: if it's from a backup role, to give him a

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Speaker 2: little security, to give him.

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Speaker 4: Guy back up, both those dudes exactly right.

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Speaker 2: So he's the one that you would like to see

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Speaker 2: step up, get the opportunity all those different things, but

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Speaker 2: he has been ruled out. And so, yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I I thought Dylan Cook, for the given situation, held

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, They're not the greatest pass rushers, and.

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Speaker 2: Right I just don't I just don't ever want to

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Speaker 4: And I also don't even know who would be activated

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Speaker 4: if Pete and Anderson and Brodrick are all out. Two

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Speaker 2: Are two of the three already are.

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Speaker 4: Somebody else is going to be in pads on the

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Speaker 2: It's not shouldn't you know What's funny? This is the

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Speaker 2: part where I would make the joke, Oh, just bump

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Speaker 2: Darnell Washington to tackle, no problem. But he's in the protocols, right,

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Speaker 2: So Calvin Anderson now those three Pete, Washington, Harrison in

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Speaker 2: the concussion protocol obviously, will wait and see the practice

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Speaker 2: reports throughout the week. Keanu Benton with the ankle, James

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Speaker 2: Pierre with the calf, Ben's Coronic with the finger, and

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Speaker 2: why a Black still undisclosed at this point. All banged

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Speaker 2: up but could play this week. According to Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have to wait and see how they

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Speaker 2: do throughout the week, how their participation goes in practice. Benton, Pierre,

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Speaker 4: Black okay, and didn't mention Queen.

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Speaker 2: Didn't mention. Queen also didn't initially mention Derek Harmon, but

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a second Harmon one. I'm

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Speaker 2: He also said that Kyle Duggar could return this week,

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Speaker 2: but again they'll have to wait and see how he

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of balls in the air. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we didn't get many firm answers there.

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Speaker 2: Good Mike Tomlin ism by you. There a lot of

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Speaker 2: balls in the air. Certainly, pursuit of likes to say

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Speaker 2: that was kind of his initial statement from the podium,

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Speaker 2: if you will. And then he got asked a follow

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Speaker 2: up question a few minutes later about Derek Harmon, and

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Speaker 2: he said he will be limited early on this week,

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Speaker 2: but is expected to practice and could return.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So at least he hasn't been ruled out early in

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Speaker 2: the process like he was the last few weeks.

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Speaker 4: One week ago today he was already ruled out right.

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Speaker 2: And the week before Yeah, but yes, the last two

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Speaker 2: weeks Mike Tomlin ruled him out at his Tuesday press

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Speaker 2: car Good.

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Speaker 4: Well, sounds like this extra day for Monday might be

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Speaker 4: useful for a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Massive. Yeah, it's not a rest advantage, right, because the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins get the same al right, right, But I do

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Speaker 2: think it's the right time. Hey, it's not a Thursday

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Speaker 2: to Sunday where you're getting ten days. It's certainly not

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Speaker 2: a bye week. It's only twenty four hours. But I

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Speaker 2: think it's a good time. It's a good time to

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Speaker 2: be getting that twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, third down the wrong pipe. Yeah, especially regular, No,

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Speaker 4: just regular, okay, cool ranch are fine, but if Regular

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Speaker 4: didn't exist, I would like cool Ranch a lot, but regular.

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Speaker 4: It's like my favorite chip oga big time. Actually the

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Speaker 4: spicy nacho so good?

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Speaker 2: Is the purple bag?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Is that the purple bag, purple.

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Speaker 4: Bag some other flavor, but they'd almost yeah, yeah, yah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's my number one. But anyway, it's my favorite chip

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Speaker 4: on the planet. Anyway, what the heck were we talking about?

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Speaker 2: Chips? Kelly Derek Harmon.

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Speaker 4: Derek Harmon Report, Monday Night Extra twenty four four hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would say, Okay, we did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just they're an old team that had the

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Speaker 4: earliest bye week of the year. So I think any

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Speaker 4: rest day would be a very good point, right, I

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Speaker 4: think any rest day would very welcome for.

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Speaker 2: This team on twenty four extra hours. It's not going

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Speaker 2: to drastically tilt the meter in favor of your health

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Speaker 2: one way or the other. But I think if you're

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Speaker 2: right time to do it.

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Speaker 4: Especially with the list you just listed there too. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'd really like to get Harmon back.

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Speaker 2: I'd really like to get Harmon.

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Speaker 4: Back, like on second viewing or whatever.

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Speaker 2: If that extra day is the difference for Darnel Washington

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Speaker 2: clear protocol or not a long.

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Speaker 4: Way too, but of course you pay for it a

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Speaker 4: Monday night, or you pay for it on the other.

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Speaker 2: End, exactly right, And it's on the other end it's

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Speaker 2: those Detroit Lions who are But that.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean as much pretty because it's yeah, because it's

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Speaker 4: ANFC game, though.

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Speaker 2: It is good point and at least it's not you're

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Speaker 4: Good point in Detroit is you probably made that trip.

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Speaker 2: It like it's a joke. We made it last pre season.

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Speaker 2: It's like thirty five minute flights.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 2: We don't fly to Cleveland. We bust to Cleveland. But

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Speaker 2: other than that, Buffalo and Detroit are the quick quickest flights,

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Speaker 2: even a little bit quicker than Baltimore and Philly.

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Speaker 4: And Sincey and Cincy, since he's a.

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Speaker 2: Little less than an hour, Philly is a little less

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Speaker 4: Or under an hour. Yeah, oh oh yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's Baltimore is about forty minutes thirty five Buffalo. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you, Matt, it's like we get thirty thousand feet

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Speaker 2: cabin for you know, like Stewardess is please prepare the cabin.

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Speaker 4: And there's no flat part. It's just exactly.

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Speaker 2: And what was hilarious was last year, two years ago,

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Speaker 2: two years ago, that weird Monday Sunday that got moved

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Speaker 2: a Monday, that kicked off at like five o'clock the

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Speaker 2: Star the Mason Rudolph playoff game in Buffalo. Remember New

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Speaker 2: York was in a state of emergency with all the snow.

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Speaker 2: That's why that game got moved from Sunday to Monday.

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Speaker 2: We flew in and it was like apocalyptic like because

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Speaker 2: like we just stayed like I could see that I could.

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Speaker 2: We like basically flew up seventy nine north right and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there's the there's the there's Cranberry, there's

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Speaker 2: the practice facility, and that's like wow, there's Grove City,

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Speaker 2: there's the Gros City outlets.

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Speaker 4: There's every step, every step above the cloud.

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Speaker 2: Because they were like, what's the point the weather is

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Speaker 2: so bad, like just stay low, no one in the air.

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Speaker 2: We landed. It was so bizarre, like apocalyptic. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that is like.

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Speaker 4: Driving to the radio state the old station during COVID. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean I felt like the Walking Dead.

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Speaker 2: Felt like the Walking Dead. I still have a time

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Speaker 2: lapse that I took on my phone one time of

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Speaker 2: driving in here through the tunnels in like the middle

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Speaker 2: of rush hour, and it was like, so that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the latest of what we know and where we're

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Speaker 2: at in that regard. Yeah, pretty quick flight back to

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Speaker 2: and to and fro Detroit as you imagine as well, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Before we go to break here, some pretty substantial news

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Speaker 2: around the league. I don't know if it's gonna necessarily

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Speaker 2: tilt the playoff odds in the AFC or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: but from a name recognition standpoint, significant news, and that

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Speaker 4: This is wild. This is wild. I mean, he's an

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Speaker 2: If you would have told me a former Colts quarterback

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, he might still still have it.

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Speaker 2: He might still have it. He left Stanford, where he's

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Speaker 4: The teams are playing, or they have really tough games

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Speaker 2: But this gets back to this reminds me. This is

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Speaker 4: Yes, these people are.

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Speaker 4: Rest, it's certainly not the same. But if I won

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Speaker 2: We're talking here because sometimes in the lottery you can

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Speaker 2: You'll see. We've got Nathan in here producing for us again,

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Speaker 4: Think yes Yesterday influenced it a lot big time.

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Speaker 2: But our buddy Chris Adamski on the other side, just

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here on a Tuesday, as we

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Speaker 2: jump into it and why bury the lead? What's your

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Speaker 4: On another rookie I've been meaning to ask you about

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Speaker 6: there was some sort of element of you know, salvage

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Speaker 6: the funk costs in this or something, you know, you

441
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Speaker 6: don't think you would do that at this stage of

442
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Speaker 6: the season and that impardant of a game like that

443
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Speaker 6: if they didn't see some degree of So I do

444
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 6: think there's like, hey, we need to keep getting is

445
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 6: getting him some reps to some degree and see what

446
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 6: we have here in twenty twenty six. Obviously there's a

447
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 6: degree of I mean, Kenny Gainwell, I think by all measureds,

448
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 6: I'm sure even if you give them to see him,

449
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 6: their management and coaches that he's been better than than.

450
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Speaker 3: They expected and been more useful than they.

451
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Speaker 6: Expected, and they're using him more than expected. I think

452
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Speaker 6: Jayden Warrens, at least from my view, I don't want

453
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Speaker 6: to speak for them or anybody else, has been I

454
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Speaker 6: think better than expected and with the nogy not around

455
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Speaker 6: him and be that guy generally in terms of that

456
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Speaker 6: so there's been that element why they haven't needed him,

457
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 6: needed to use him. But so I kind of you're right,

458
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 6: I go back and forth on it. Yeah, and I

459
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Speaker 6: guess they still see a future of him on some

460
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Speaker 6: sort or at least, you know, at least setting them

461
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Speaker 6: up or at least putting the give them the resources,

462
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 6: give him these snaps, give him this time, keep them

463
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 6: active for games that that that that, you know, to

464
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Speaker 6: create that foster they environment where he could be a player,

465
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Speaker 6: astrict contributor next year.

466
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Speaker 4: I would hate for them to have to go into

467
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Speaker 4: the offseason thinking we got to add a big back,

468
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: you know, we gotta use a fourth round pick on

469
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Speaker 4: on a two hundred and thirty pound guy, you know.

470
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Speaker 6: And you're right, because even and then if they did,

471
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Speaker 6: it's almost I don't say certainly shutting the door on.

472
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Speaker 6: But at that point, then you know, you can't trust

473
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Speaker 6: that many guys and the you know well, I mean,

474
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Speaker 6: I guess you got to you know, re sign Gainwell

475
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Speaker 6: in that scenario we're talking about, which I certainly think

476
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Speaker 6: that they they won't want to do, and they want

477
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Speaker 6: to have Gainwell around going forward. And we know Warren's

478
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Speaker 6: you know, signed and committed to being here, so you're right,

479
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 6: they they wouldn't need four running backs, So yeah, I

480
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 6: guess in that sense, maybe that is a small part

481
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Speaker 6: of it too. Like I said, now you're past the

482
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Speaker 6: point where you're worried about twenty twenty six and they're

483
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Speaker 6: trying to get a twenty twenty five playoffs. But I

484
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Speaker 6: think they do need to make sure they do it

485
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 6: at least a thorough enough evaluation before they go into

486
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Speaker 6: how they you know, whether free agency or draft, whatever

487
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Speaker 6: they do it.

488
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Speaker 3: Running back.

489
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Speaker 2: Certainly plenty to be desired in the run game, but

490
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Speaker 2: we finally saw the pass game come to life a

491
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Speaker 2: little bit on Sunday Buzz, What was it all the

492
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: entire month of November for Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers

493
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: without a completion of twenty plus yards? They had three

494
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Speaker 2: or four of those in the game on Sunday, of course,

495
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: right away with DK Metcalf kind of setting a tone,

496
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Speaker 2: and then at the end of the game in a

497
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Speaker 2: big moment, is it safe safe to say, like when

498
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Speaker 2: this is something we talked about a little bit yesterday,

499
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Speaker 2: do you think that that was Aaron Rodgers' best performance

500
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: in a Steelers uniform? With that we know that you

501
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: know DK is dealing with some health stuff too, but

502
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: does that you know, does that relationship there feel like, okay,

503
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Speaker 2: there's something there, like this can be our bread and

504
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: butter to build on and playoff of down the stretch

505
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Speaker 2: and into the postseason.

506
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely. I thought it was interesting the way

507
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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin put it, and he answered the question about

508
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 6: taking a start on the first play there and said,

509
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Speaker 6: we will go to bed with an aggressive mindset and

510
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Speaker 6: aggressive posture.

511
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Speaker 3: However reput it, but it was.

512
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Speaker 6: I thought because generally under tom win and they won

513
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 6: a lot of games doing this in Baltimore, especially recently here,

514
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 6: so you might this isn't a criticism necessarily, but they've

515
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 6: played like, well, we do rock fight better than Ravens

516
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 6: do rock fight. We'll win that way. That seemed to

517
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 6: be that the mindset and the way they've won a

518
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 6: lot of games. Now, maybe it's when you get your

519
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 6: brains beat in twice in a row over a month

520
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 6: span last winter that you want to change that. But

521
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 6: as you said, it had been five six weeks since

522
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Speaker 6: you completed a downfield pass, so that certainly wasn't the

523
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 6: strength of your team or at least we were. Nobody

524
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 6: was thinking that was the strength of their team. So

525
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 6: I think this element that I think that I was

526
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Speaker 6: interested in him saying that. I think that was a

527
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 6: reflection of the trust in Rogers and the trust in DK,

528
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 6: the two guys, the two biggest names you brought in

529
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 6: the off season. One you gave a lot of money

530
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 6: and gave a draft pick for one of course, the

531
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Speaker 6: four time MVP, and and there wasn't much of a

532
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Speaker 6: connection there at least there wasn't any big play element

533
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 6: at all from DK for again four or five, six weeks,

534
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 6: but obviously would correlate and that way too in terms

535
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 6: of not having that so come out and do it

536
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 6: in the first play. I thought that was both a

537
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 6: sign of faith in Rogers and Metcalfs secondarily or you know,

538
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 6: maybe not even secondarily, and the fact that they connected

539
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 6: on I think the execution of that, because I mean,

540
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Speaker 6: if the fact that Rogers didn't, I mean, if they

541
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Speaker 6: don't execute that player right, all of a sudden, you're

542
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Speaker 6: second and ten and maybe it's a free and not

543
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 6: to start the game, and the entire game is completely different, right,

544
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Speaker 6: So I thought that, I mean, it goes not saying

545
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 6: it was a big yard is play and it was

546
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Speaker 6: a big play in the game coming that, But I

547
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 6: do think it was a reflection of Mike Thoman and

548
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 6: the coaching staff's faith and belief that Hey, I mean

549
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 6: it's cliche to say, but that's that's why Aaron Rodgers

550
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 6: is signed for December on for that game on. It's

551
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 6: December football, it's the two Ravens games, the divisions on

552
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 6: the line, the playoffs, whatever's going on. That's what he

553
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 6: was brought here for. And they put their money where

554
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 6: their mouth was and said here, you know, we know

555
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 6: we haven't connected here. We know you've got a bum hand.

556
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 6: We know things that haven't been working in the passing game,

557
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 6: but you know what, go out and do it today.

558
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 6: And they do their credit.

559
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: They went out and did it, so Buzz you mentioned

560
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 4: you know, Roman Wilson was an act of this past week.

561
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Speaker 4: And we've talked a lot of receiver stuff here just

562
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: for you know, the last couple of minutes. We know

563
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: Metcalf's the one. We know Scoronic's going to be active

564
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: every week because of his special team's background, but he's not,

565
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: you know, clearly not the number two receiver. Do you

566
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: think the feel in Valdez Scantling being active every week

567
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: is here to stay? Do you think one of those

568
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: two or three including Austin, is on the verge of

569
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: taking over as a true number two receiver? Like where

570
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 4: do you think the pecking order is in the future here?

571
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was interesting going into the game. Now,

572
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 6: you know again, the first snap maybe was part of it,

573
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Speaker 6: but I thought the element of kind of the it's

574
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 6: always on a queen slate. I mean, obviously you know

575
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 6: DK's you're you're number one, and there wasn't any danger

576
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 6: that they would scratch Colvin Austin per se at all.

577
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 6: But I thought the fact that not only was it

578
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 6: feeling and MVS, but they also brought back Scotty Miller.

579
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 6: It was almost like they were like, you know what,

580
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 6: this passing game right now, something's broken here, something's not right.

581
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 6: We're gonna like almost hit the reset button to a point.

582
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 6: Obviously not again completely, but as much as we can

583
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 6: reasonably do it. We're getting three new guys in here.

584
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 6: It's getting there. No more for the moment anyway, Keshawn Williams,

585
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 6: We're we gotta try something here. So I think there

586
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 6: was an element of that. And you know we talked

587
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 6: about and I mean how you define number two receiver.

588
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 6: I mean, none of them had more than one catch.

589
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 6: My favorite stat is now two games in a row,

590
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers had as many catches as the second leading

591
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 6: wide receiver on the Steelers did.

592
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.

593
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

594
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 6: Last week against Buffalo and you know number one there's

595
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 6: only nobody had more than one catch this past week

596
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 6: again in Baltimore amongst the receiving guard than DK Metcalf.

597
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 6: So I mean it's not as if was it passed

598
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 6: and flying colors, the feeling mvs thing. You know, they

599
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 6: combined for one sketch for forty yards. But that being said,

600
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 6: you know DK had his best game. But it's kind

601
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 6: of like, I guess to make a hockey analogy, you know,

602
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 6: you go with the hot goalie, or you stick with

603
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 6: the goalie. That used to be a kind of an

604
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 6: NHL thing, not so much anymore, per se. But if

605
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 6: you win, you keep the same maybe not even goalie,

606
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 6: you keep the same.

607
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: Lineup week after week. Right.

608
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 6: You hear that a lot of hockey coaches. I think

609
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: the fact that the passing game wasn't dynamic as it

610
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 6: was all all season. I don't know how much that

611
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 6: was attributable to feeling and MVS. But but if it

612
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 6: ain't broke, don't fix it to a point.

613
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: Right, And I think they you know, they found some

614
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: things there, and you know, I found it interesting, Like

615
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen had a a line there was something about,

616
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, like getting a win against Baltimore, it's more

617
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: about momentum than confidence like some you know, he said

618
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: something along those lines like, it's not about it's more

619
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: about momentum for us this time of year as opposed

620
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: to confidence. And you know what, Chris, I think to

621
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: build on that for this week. It is a Monday

622
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: night football matchup. We all know, even in twenty twenty five,

623
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: that still gets the blood going. There's still something special

624
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: about being the only show in town and Monday night

625
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: football and the brand that that is becoming the National

626
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: Football League over the decades, and a Dolphins team that's

627
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: one of the hottest in the NFL. And you know,

628
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: back in September and October at times looked like this

629
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: might be a you know, just push the easy button

630
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: and show up and don't vomit all over yourselves and

631
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: you'll be able to beat this terrible Dolphins team. Not

632
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: the case anymore. This to me feels like a real

633
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: opportunity to continue to gain that momentum. Keep but you know,

634
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: forget about what Baltimore does if they lose, great, but

635
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: take care of business yourself and you know, to get

636
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: a second straight AFC win here against you know, in

637
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: a big spot against another team that's playing well, I

638
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: think would be big for this group and particularly for

639
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: this offense.

640
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's actually I like that that quote that

641
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 6: lot that sounds like a confusion. You could put that

642
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: on a T shirt or something.

643
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: Unmost moment is greater than confidence.

644
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: But I that when when you start to look at

645
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: the way and part of that win. I think part

646
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 6: of my logic in this year is that I think

647
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 6: I exposed the Ravens aren't that good or just showing

648
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 6: that you can beat the Ravens. But it did so

649
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 6: much because I feel as if this is more so

650
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 6: to the Detroit game, or you could make the case again,

651
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 6: but the Miami's played over the past month. Crazy to say,

652
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 6: but over the past month or one of the best

653
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 6: team in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, they're on this win

654
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 6: streak and defensively the numbers are putting up and it's

655
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 6: kind of wild. You know, it depends on when when

656
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 6: you play a team sometimes on a schedule, than then

657
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Speaker 6: the quality of them, you know, at the end of

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Speaker 6: the season or beginning that thing. But in reference to

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Speaker 6: the Detroit game in particular, that's a road game, and hey,

660
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Speaker 6: they might not have the playoffs either, but I mean,

661
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 6: we know they're a super Bowl you know, talent contending

662
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 6: type team or that typeer roster. The pressure is so

663
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Speaker 6: much off now to win they would have lost the

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Speaker 6: game of the Ravens. They would have had to force

665
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Speaker 6: to win out essentially. And now it's like, because even

666
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Speaker 6: if the Ravens win all three, I mean there's tie

667
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Speaker 6: breakers involved, and you know how it shakes out, you

668
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 6: could almost go one and two if you're the Steelers

669
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Speaker 6: and still have a chance to play for the division

670
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Speaker 6: that last week of the season. So in the Ravens,

671
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: at look, team right now is gonna win the next three,

672
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Speaker 6: right guys?

673
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Speaker 3: I think? You know, so you're.

674
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Speaker 6: Almost the point where you could go one and two

675
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Speaker 6: of these in these three and still play for that.

676
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Speaker 6: It is now you don't want to do that. Obviously

677
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 6: for a lot of reasons, you want to have them

678
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Speaker 6: under the confidence wherever you want to put it. But

679
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Speaker 6: but but playing Detroit, for instance, on the road with Detroit,

680
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Speaker 6: if you go up there, playing a real good game

681
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 6: and you lose, well, it's like, okay, that's fine. I

682
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 6: remember a couple of those years that in twenty eighteen,

683
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 6: the Steelers that they didn't make the playoffs, they like extremely,

684
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Speaker 6: I feel better about their about their chances in the playoffs,

685
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 6: and they lost the.

686
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Speaker 3: Game because they played a good game.

687
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Speaker 6: But doesn't make any sense. So I think that you

688
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Speaker 6: can apply that too to Miami in terms of where

689
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Speaker 6: they're at.

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Speaker 3: And it is a it is a bigger game. It's

691
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot.

692
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Speaker 6: Of the Steelers record of Monday Night football, especially on

693
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Speaker 6: Mike Commas record of Monday Night Football. And you got

694
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Speaker 6: the whole cold weather team coming up here in December,

695
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 6: and of course I had last time, I think the

696
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 6: last time that happened, I think it was about twenty

697
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 6: thirteen and the Dolphins won that game. Actually, the kind

698
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 6: of the deliverablow to the Steelers playoff chance is one

699
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 6: of those seasons there and they didn't make the playoffs

700
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 6: because of it. But there, Yeah, there's a lot of

701
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Speaker 6: reasons why I think it's an important game to win.

702
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 6: But more so where I'm going with this is, you know,

703
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Speaker 6: just seeing I don't want to see him way and

704
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 6: like they did against the Bills, right, I just want

705
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: to see them kind of if they play a good

706
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: game and it looks like, you know, they're not getting

707
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 6: shut out and in the running game or they're not

708
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 6: getting just shredded and then the run defense game. Things

709
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Speaker 6: like that, little parts think to make you believe that,

710
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 6: you know, they have a fighters chance to win a

711
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 6: playoff game or two once you get the next month,

712
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Speaker 6: whether or not they lose one or two of these.

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Speaker 2: Games or not, I concur well said by our buddy

714
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Speaker 2: Chris and Damski. Good stuff is always buzzed. Thank you

715
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Speaker 2: for taking the time. Make sure you're checking out all

716
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: of Chris's work in the trib and listening to him

717
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: and Tom at Noon on the Steelers Audio Network every

718
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Speaker 2: single day. Thanks dude, and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, boys.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure is all ours. What this guy think he works

721
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Speaker 2: at Chick fil a or something? There no good point.

722
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: And I liked that from Patrick queen too. More about

723
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: momentum than confident. All these guys are confident. You don't

724
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Speaker 2: make it to the football league without being confident. But

725
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: this is the right time to be to be build momentum,

726
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: and a win in Baltimore against your chiefest rival probably

727
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Speaker 2: the easiest way to build momentum. Great place to start,

728
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Speaker 2: Great place to start. Let's talk more about that win

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Speaker 2: close down the first hour of the show. When we

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Speaker 2: return on the other side, West Shooler, Matt Williamson, it

731
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Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday, it is now time for our aptly named

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Speaker 2: Tuesday rewind. Yeah, very simple concept, just a final chance

738
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Speaker 2: to go back cross some te's dot some i's, some

739
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Speaker 2: additional observations and thoughts that we didn't just download on

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Speaker 2: Monday and are kind of you know, first reaction that

741
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Speaker 2: we always do on Mondays after a game, and Matt,

742
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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of things that I want to discuss.

743
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a coupletes too. First, big one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I like to hear first is the

745
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 2: wide receiver usage. Okay, namely let cause I want to

746
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: glance at the feeling in the MVS usage, but mainly

747
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: DK metcalf. I think there's a real fine line. And

748
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Speaker 2: this is something that Mike Tomlin actually talked about in

749
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Speaker 2: his press conference today that I'm paraphrasing. I'm not giving

750
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Speaker 2: an exact quote here, but you at times you can

751
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Speaker 2: almost get so obsessed over your identity that if you're

752
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: if you're trying one thing so much, you're sticking with

753
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Speaker 2: one thing so much, you become easier to prepare for.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, oh yeah, So I do think

755
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: that's a Steeler problem over the years period.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's some not chicken an egg, that's

757
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: not the right analogy I'm looking for, But I think

758
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 2: having an identity as a team is important, but only

759
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, and you have to be light

760
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: on your feet with it, and you have to be

761
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Speaker 2: flexible with.

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Speaker 4: It unless you're like amazing at it.

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Speaker 2: If unless you're the Eagles in their run game, right,

764
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Speaker 2: the Patriots, who just hey, here's Tom Brady and Randy Moss.

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Speaker 2: Good luck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but even like the Belichick era, they were the

767
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Speaker 4: most light on their feet.

768
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Speaker 2: Went from ground and pound defensive team to we're going

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Speaker 2: to score fifty touchdowns a year with Randy Moss, to

770
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Speaker 2: watch us use these wide receivers in the slot, to

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Speaker 2: watch how we use our tight end right right right.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots, their identity was we're going to evolve and

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Speaker 2: we're going to attack wherever you're weak.

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Speaker 4: And their defense was weak to week was weak. A

775
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Speaker 4: lot of smart, versatile players.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we'll take away the runs, sometimes we'll take away

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Speaker 2: the pass. And so they had identities, but it was

778
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Speaker 2: like they were married to it. They were flexible within

779
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Speaker 2: that ideology, and I think that's the best place to be.

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Speaker 2: And when you consider that for the Steelers, I think

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Speaker 2: it starts with DK the run game too, obviously, which

782
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Speaker 2: is still left plenty to desire. I wrote down this

783
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: stat here, let me find it real quick for you

784
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Speaker 2: that four of the last six games the Steelers have

785
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Speaker 2: seventy few or fewer rushing yards and four of their

786
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Speaker 2: last six games. Yeah, yeah, that that needs to change.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's incredibly long term sustainable. But all this,

789
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Speaker 2: where I'm going with all this is we had spent

790
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: so much time talking about how if you want to

791
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Speaker 2: level up this offense, it feels like it has to

792
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Speaker 2: start with Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf, the All Pro,

793
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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl playmaker, the guy who's making the big

794
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Speaker 2: contract at wide receiver who you you know, gave up

795
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Speaker 2: a second round pick and gave a new contract to

796
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Speaker 2: to acquire this offseason, all that stuff. I loved how

797
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: they started in that regard. It was early, it was often,

798
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: and yeah, there were some deep shot long balls that,

799
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Speaker 2: as we have discussed many times, is not necessarily DK's

800
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: cup of tea. But you got him the ball in

801
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways. You got him acting them

802
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: up or schemed them up early. And because of that,

803
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: the whole rest of the game, Baltimore had to be

804
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: on high alert with everything that he was doing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think to this point they've asked him to

806
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 4: win just based on execution a little too much, you know,

807
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 4: like good way to put it, as opposed to let's

808
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: move a lot of pieces around, set a pick or

809
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: you know, I mean that kind of stuff, you know,

810
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: and get your guy, you know, as open as possible

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Speaker 4: via scheme. Previewing that game, you know, the Steelers are

812
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: notorious short passing game. I mean, get out quick lion scrimmage,

813
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Right, oh, the catch and the Ravens

814
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Speaker 4: are the best in the league. Coming into that game

815
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 4: and taking away their numbers versus short passing game were

816
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Speaker 4: the best. And that makes sense, Hamilton roquon. They're good

817
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: tackling corners, you know, like those guys all get to

818
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 4: the ball in the flats quickly too, So I thought, well,

819
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 4: of course that'll still be part of the game plan.

820
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Speaker 4: But let let's go run heavy here. You know, the

821
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 4: time of possession is a real problem. They didn't. They

822
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: went less run than ever, which frankly, if I'll be honest,

823
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: if they lost, I'd probably be critical of them. I'm

824
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 4: in a Monday morning quarterback at the death, no doubt,

825
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: no doubt. Like I mean, I'm not sure it worked.

826
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: The passing game was really good, so let's leave it

827
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: at that. But they still lost time possession and you

828
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: know that type of thing. But they did push the

829
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: ball down the field by design against a team it

830
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 4: doesn't rush the passer all that well. And that's how

831
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: they zagged from the short passing game to some degree.

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00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: And you know scheme to metcap buff appropriately that that's great.

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Speaker 4: You can't have his talent and his investment and beginning him. Yeah,

834
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: four targets a game at four point four yards down

835
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Speaker 4: the field.

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00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: Three reception for twenty yards, right, that's just three receptions

837
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: for eighteen yards. It's just not what you brought him in.

838
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: Paid him for ten targets, you know, right.

839
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Exactly right. And aside from the offensive lineman and Aaron Rodgers,

840
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: he played the most snaps on the offense eighty three

841
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: percent of them, and was really, along with Aaron Rodgers,

842
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: the straw that stirred the drink. And I think, like

843
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: you're right that the way that you put it there

844
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: was perfect. They asked him to just go out and

845
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: and Jimmy there, Joe. Yeah, Whereas they did more x'es

846
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 2: and o's stuff with him on Sunday, and he still

847
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: had some Jimmy and Joe moments, but I think the

848
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: x'es and o' stuff opened that up and made it

849
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Speaker 2: a little bit easier for him.

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Speaker 4: So everyone remembers, like the Killer Bee era, that was

851
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: not a very schemed offensive. It was we have better

852
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: checkers than you, so we're not going to do things crazy.

853
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: AB's gonna win.

854
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: One in the world. You got this running back in

855
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: the world. You got a Hall of Fame quarterback. Yeah,

856
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 2: and a really good offensive line.

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00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: I mean even like Peyton Manning thrown to Marvin and Wayne,

859
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: one of them is always on the right, one was

860
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: always on the left. And we're just gonna beat you,

861
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: you know, like keep it simple. I mean, that's fine,

862
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 4: but this is this offense, isn't Ab and Marvin and

863
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: Ben in his prime and Peyton banningen right? Yeah?

864
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: Correct with that with.

865
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Speaker 4: The second receiver too, you know, like the way that

866
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 4: people treat Metcalf is very disrespectful to the other receivers, to.

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Speaker 2: The other receiver, yeah, sure, yeah. And at least in

868
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: those killer b eras yed Mark Tavis Bryant, who was

869
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: a lot to handle it. Well, you had Juju early

870
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: in his career who was a lot to handle and

871
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: putting up big numbers.

872
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: Lev and Heith Miller and guys that will sting you.

873
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: And you know, if they're the third fourth.

874
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: Option, absolutely uh. Other wide receiver usage here and funny enough, Matt,

875
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: we spent some time speculating what could Adam Feelen's role

876
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: look like will he be active? How much of a

877
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: snap share and a role will he have? Well, he

878
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: by far played these second most reps of any Steelers

879
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Yeah, with twenty five reps for him almost

880
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the offensive snaps. The next closest wide

881
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: receivers were Calvin Austin and Calvin Austin and Marquez Valdez Scanling,

882
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: who both played sixteen snaps, so feeling nine more snaps

883
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: than the third and fourth wide receivers. That was quicker

884
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: than I expected.

885
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. He started the game, which started the

886
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: game first? Maybe man something, maybe that wasn't who knows.

887
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 4: This kind of why I brought up to Chris is like,

888
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: because maybe it wouldn't shock me if on Monday or

889
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: I guess it would be Tuesday, we go. I think

890
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: thelan's the two, you know, I mean it's his second game,

891
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: and I think he might be the two by then.

892
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: We might go back to this has changed so much

893
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: throughout the year. Austin was, Wilson was one time out Austin,

894
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. They're they're they're searching. I mean

895
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 4: that's the word I've been using for the number two.

896
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: Receiver all day, all year. But theland is reliable and

897
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: he didn't just got there talk about moving train, and

898
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: he was able to be on the field a lot.

899
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 4: I was just say, contribute, but that's a strong work. Yeah.

900
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: I think he only had one, right, but you're right.

901
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean he was nearly fifty percent of the snaps

902
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: on offense. That's a substantial number. Yeah, Calvin Austin and

903
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: Marquez Valdez scantling thirty one percent of the offensive snaps,

904
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: So a little less than one out of three. Does

905
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: that say more about Calvin Austin or MVS.

906
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the size at that position

907
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: is really important to them and it's been lacking and

908
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: it shows up more and more as the season goes on,

909
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: and you know, sure, So I don't know exactly. Again,

910
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: I think they're searching. I think they're throwing a lot

911
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: of things against a fan and see what sticks and

912
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: that type of thing.

913
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: That was it for kind of my first observation, Yeah,

914
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: go ahead, let's get into it.

915
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: A good one, but it's a small little nugget. Was

916
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: I can't remember if we talked about this yesterday now,

917
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: but I don't think so. Weightman was much better than

918
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: he's been in the last couple of weeks.

919
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't think we mentioned that.

920
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

921
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very good on Sunday.

922
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: I thought we might be getting report in these coming weeks,

923
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: like oh, they brought in a punter. I thought we

924
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: could be getting to that level. So great and another

925
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: special teamer. It was outstanding, you know. So I maybe

926
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, But I don't think

927
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: he really is a future as a defensive player. I

928
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: think he's going to be Killer Brew Matti Kaevich maybe

929
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: one of the best special teamers, not even on the

930
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: team but in the league. But those two special teamers

931
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: had really good days. So that was great. Not that

932
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: I was worried about Bruner, but he could be on

933
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: the verge of being your next Killer Brew, you know.

934
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 4: But rewatching the game and the run defense, there's some

935
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 4: some problems that I don't know they're gonna go away.

936
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: To be frank, they've been one of the worst tackling

937
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 4: teams in the league, you know, just by number of mistackles,

938
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 4: which I think with some stock in but I don't

939
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: is that a mistackle.

940
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: Or you know, I mean, not like the definition of

941
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: a mis catch right, like his caught it his fingertips,

942
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: you know, two yards outside of his body.

943
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: But I don't think they've been a great tackling team.

944
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 2: I would agree, you know, I think they started poorly,

945
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: real poor, got better like in October ish, but I

946
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: think it's started to regress a little bit.

947
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: And I think fatigue hat something to do with that too.

948
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: You know, you could be a step behind.

949
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Or now played three now played three more games than

950
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: the average defense in the NFL.

951
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: And I commend his efforts and the way he's flying

952
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 4: around the field and clearly was playing with something. But

953
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: Queen's the biggest culprit. I mean, he misses a lot

954
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: of tackles and I think he probably always will. I mean,

955
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: part of it's just because he's so you know, it's

956
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: like Shazier missed a lot of tackles, but down on

957
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: ice talk by Lake. But he also gets to more

958
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: than others too, you know, like maybe he didn't make

959
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: tackle three yards behind the line of scrimmage, but he

960
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: got he bumped into, he slowed the guy down. Yes

961
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 4: there were another linebacker might not have even done that,

962
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: you know, So I'm not saying Queen's at that level,

963
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: but he gets to a lot. But my problem with

964
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: the run defense more than that is they faced two

965
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: very run different schemes back to back. I mean with

966
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: Ricard and Henry's a lot different than Cook on outside

967
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: zones and duos. But what I saw from every D

968
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 4: lineman not named Cam Hayward, they're just going backwards. I

969
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 4: mean they're just losing whatever style block it is, They're

970
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: going backwards, and thus they end up in Queen and

971
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: Wilson's lap too much. That was how the beginning of

972
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 4: the season was a lot. Benton in particular, was bad

973
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: early got better. I still think he's kind of fine.

974
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: But Black played a lot of snaps in this game,

975
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: and he was going back.

976
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: To most of any Steelers, I mean one more than

977
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: camb Right, the snaps for him, that's a big number,

978
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: Like when we have it. He played sixty four snaps.

979
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: I know should happen in Chicago.

980
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: I think he played thirteen or fourteen.

981
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: And that's where he should be.

982
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: And he played sixty four. I mean, that's a that's

983
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: a lot to put on his.

984
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: It's a ton And part of this because Benton got hurt.

985
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: Part of it is because you're down Harmon and Benton

986
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: got banned.

987
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: I mean, who do you want to play him instead

988
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 4: of though Lee or Dunwoe.

989
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, like Logan Lee, who

990
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: has been in active some weeks.

991
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: He played fourteen, right, I mean, so you're you're I mean,

992
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: you're pretty thin.

993
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: Here's like taking the y a black roll.

994
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: Exactly. So they need to get Harmon back.

995
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: Played thirty five snaps, the defensive snaps.

996
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: He's probably played none, or you know, he in the

997
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: perfect world, he's not even really active, you know, so

998
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: you can see that that's by default. I mean, the

999
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 4: wrong people are out there a lot. Yeah, you got

1000
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: to paint the barn red right, right, and that's not

1001
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: the color you want to paint this barn. But I

1002
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: just see a lot of d linemen going backwards in

1003
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: the run game, and Harmon won't. Cam never does. Cam's

1004
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: having a really really good year. It maybe he's not

1005
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: splashy and if Benton's out there too fine, But the

1006
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: rest of them worries me a little bit, Like to

1007
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: the point even sometimes you can find these like old

1008
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: grizzled nose tackles that can stop the run until they're sixty.

1009
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's one on a couch somewhere that

1010
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: you could They really don't have the nose tackle that

1011
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: can't run. That's just rock. Yes, you know, like they

1012
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: might need.

1013
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: To put both of those bear paws out right, just

1014
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: like the Hoover dam cannot move right.

1015
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: They may need to examine their style of nose in

1016
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: the off season and just get a big plugger, double

1017
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: team eater, you know, an anvil TV.

1018
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll put that in the Weird World of Matt

1019
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: Williamson topics to discuss in the offseason, because I think

1020
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: you might be onto something there.

1021
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could use one right now.

1022
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 2: And then I understand it because high Smith is back

1023
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: in the fold, but I was still a little surprised.

1024
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: Three snaps for Jack Sawyer. That's very low, even with

1025
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: all three of those other guys healthy.

1026
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: It's very low, especially because fatigue has to be an

1027
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: issue and run that may snap.

1028
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: Has to be has to be So Jack Sawyer only

1029
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: three snaps. Again, I thought he'd be closer to ten,

1030
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: not know, not thirty, but but k and then just

1031
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: one snap all game. It was on defense. One snap

1032
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: all game for a Sante Samuel Junior.

1033
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: Okay, let's get to that in a minute. But I thought,

1034
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 4: where you're going to go? And I almost asked Christis,

1035
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: but we kept him a little long. Herbig is still

1036
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: not playing enough for me. I mean, I know it's

1037
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 4: a it's a.

1038
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Great twenty seven snaps for him.

1039
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: Out of seventy four or something like that out of

1040
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 4: eighty so less than a third.

1041
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: Yes, wait, no, sorry, twenty seven out of eighty thirty

1042
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: four percent, so it's just about a third.

1043
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: He's too good for that. I don't know what how

1044
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: the ants how you solve this problem, But with all

1045
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: respect to Cam and Watt, Herbig might be your best

1046
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: defensive player. I mean it might be.

1047
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: He might be, at least at least in a lot

1048
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: of times this season. He certainly has been.

1049
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 4: Maybe he's having the best year. Let's put that there,

1050
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 4: you go. And I love high Smith and he made

1051
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: big plays. And what I think Watt dictates his own

1052
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 4: when he comes on and off the field. I think

1053
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: he's earned that, and I'm cool with that too. But

1054
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: in the end, if Herbig's only playing a third of

1055
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: the snaps, can't have it. He's too good. It's too

1056
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: good and that and that's a great problem to have.

1057
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: And if you're gonna pay him this offseason, like you

1058
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: can't pay him Premie. I'm not saying he's gonna make

1059
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: TJ money but no, but he's gonna pay him big

1060
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: time edge rusher money and have him on the bench

1061
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: for sixty some sixty six sixty five percent of the

1062
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: time at all.

1063
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: One thousand percent. And lastly, the Samuel thing, I think

1064
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: is actually a good problem.

1065
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: Because all the other three are playing so well, that's

1066
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: the thing.

1067
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 4: And and this team that you played is never in

1068
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: three wide. You weren't going to go deep into the

1069
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 4: corner rotation anyway, you know, So I thought he might

1070
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 4: play fifty percent, Pierre might play fifty percent. I think

1071
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: that's just a big compliment to Pierre. And we still

1072
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: don't know more about Samuel than we did. And in

1073
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: this case, I'm totally fine with it because, hey, you

1074
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: know that that's we just didn't need to try to

1075
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: test that. Yes, and you would think Miami's a big

1076
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: three wide team, but they're not not. In the absence

1077
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: of Jaalen wattle Tree.

1078
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: Still healthy. Sorry was mixed up, but yeah.

1079
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: They played with two backs a lot. They play with

1080
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 4: an extra heavier. I think that people think and they

1081
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: run the ball.

1082
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: Well, they certainly do, and that's something we'll begin talking

1083
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: plenty about tomorrow. But that's an hour in the books.

1084
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: Another hour to go in Hour number two Fantasy Football Focus,

1085
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: Power Rankings, But we begin by taking a look at

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Speaker 2: the playoff picture, which I think we'll do this now now,

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Speaker 2: maybe every Tuesday the rest of the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems pertinent and a.

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Speaker 2: Little more clarity. After the Chargers get themselves a big

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Speaker 2: win last night on Monday Night Football against the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss all that more an Hour number two when

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Speaker 2: we return here on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 2: of the Black and Gold at Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.