Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to okay f Daily with
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Speaker 1: the Folks. In today's conversation, I chat with Sean Shaw,
Speaker 1: who is the founder of People Over Profits, an organization
Speaker 1: in Florida that is seeking to wake people up to
Speaker 1: the electoral process and understand that, you know, the reason
Speaker 1: why we don't have the kind of rights and protections
Speaker 1: that we do is because guess what, we put profits
Speaker 1: over people on a regular basis. And Sean and I
Speaker 1: who he is a former Florida state delegate. We'll get
Speaker 1: into a conversation about what the Democrats are doing wrong
Speaker 1: in Florida. I open up the conversation by talking about
Speaker 1: the fact that Florida was indeed a purple state. And
Speaker 1: he said, no, no, no, He's like, if you remove
Speaker 1: Miami Dade, if you remove you know, certain areas. He's like, basically,
Speaker 1: Florida is incredibly read and incredibly rural, and he's like
Speaker 1: and incredibly old. And Democrats do not do a good
Speaker 1: job in talking to the older set, the retirees who
Speaker 1: have enough money, by the way, to go down to
Speaker 1: Florida and to retire and to buy homes or go
Speaker 1: into a retirement village. About the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: Republicans take control and guess what's going to be gone.
Speaker 1: They're so security that they're living off of their Medicare
Speaker 1: that is taking care of their elderly care. Why aren't
Speaker 1: we having those conversations. Sean will push back against me
Speaker 1: and talking about, you know, the fact that he believes
Speaker 1: that Democrats get caught up in the culture wars, And
Speaker 1: I say, I don't think that Democrats get caught up
Speaker 1: in the culture wars. They don't have a good comeback
Speaker 1: and nor do they have a way to them pivot
Speaker 1: back to the ways in which Republicans are working overtime
Speaker 1: to take away your rights, take away your entitlements, and
Speaker 1: take away all of the things that Americans have earned.
Speaker 1: And so folks, you know, as we continue to make
Speaker 1: the march to the midterm elections. As it stands right
Speaker 1: now and some states, turnout is very high, but we
Speaker 1: don't know who these people are turning out for. Are
Speaker 1: they turning out for death Santis? Who is using Florida
Speaker 1: as an evil Petrie dish to see just how many
Speaker 1: you know LGBTQ kids, he can assault, or how many
Speaker 1: voters he can arrest, or you know, how many you know,
Speaker 1: white people he can celebrate while erasing people of color
Speaker 1: in the history books and you know, pushing teachers out
Speaker 1: of the classroom. When you look at the numbers, who's
Speaker 1: running for governor right now against him, he's in a
Speaker 1: comfortable spot if you believe the polls. And I'm just
Speaker 1: like the fuck man. You people in Florida are underwater,
Speaker 1: your homes have been destroyed. Climate change is going to
Speaker 1: engulf the whole fucking state at some point, and you
Speaker 1: are voting for a man who doesn't believe that climate
Speaker 1: change exists. Take out LGBTQ people, take out women in abortion,
Speaker 1: take out white grievance, take out all of those things,
Speaker 1: and just think about your fucking bottom line. This is
Speaker 1: what I don't understand. But you know then I don't
Speaker 1: understand racists, right like I don't understand the hate so
Speaker 1: deep inside yourself that you will vote against your own
Speaker 1: best interests just so you can ensure that people who
Speaker 1: you don't know right don't have any idea or understanding
Speaker 1: about except for the stories that you've made up in
Speaker 1: your head, suffer more than you suffer. And that somehow
Speaker 1: means winning to you. I don't get it, but that's
Speaker 1: the reality that we're in. And so my conversation with
Speaker 1: Sean will unpack a lot of this and he will
Speaker 1: provide some eye opening ways into which we need to
Speaker 1: be thinking about the state of Florida and sowing the
Speaker 1: seeds right, because that's the thing that Democrats are not
Speaker 1: good at, which is sowing the seeds. Instead, they seed
Speaker 1: ground to the Republican Party when they've decided, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is a red state and it's always gonna be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always going to be if you don't fucking invest
Speaker 1: in it, right, if you don't actually give money to
Speaker 1: local folks that are on the ground, that are doing
Speaker 1: to get out the vote, that are doing the messaging
Speaker 1: campaigns right. And I know that the folks will say, well,
Speaker 1: Democrats can't be everywhere, We'll fucking Republicans are. They seem
Speaker 1: to be everywhere and doing just fine. It's the rest
Speaker 1: of us that are sitting around scratching our heads saying,
Speaker 1: how come people are not waking up to the ways
Speaker 1: in which Republicans are lying to the American people and
Speaker 1: have turned into a vicious cult. Well, because nobody is
Speaker 1: repeating that information to them day in and day out,
Speaker 1: and that's why we're here. So, you know, I hope
Speaker 1: that you enjoy this conversation with Sean, and if you
Speaker 1: are a woke a f listener from Florida, please do
Speaker 1: in the comment section let me know what you think
Speaker 1: about your red state, right, and whether or not you
Speaker 1: have some pointers that the Democrats could actually use in
Speaker 1: terms of what messaging does resonate with your neighbors and
Speaker 1: your friends, right, what messages will get through that aren't
Speaker 1: being thought about right now, because clearly if death Santens
Speaker 1: is up in the polls and yet the state is underwater.
Speaker 1: He denied, you know, FEMA to other states, namely New
Speaker 1: York during Superstorm Sandy, and then coming out with this
Speaker 1: fucking handout for the state of Florida. I'm just like, guys,
Speaker 1: there's got to be somebody better than this motherfucker. And
Speaker 1: so I want to know what messaging do you think
Speaker 1: is going to resonate in Florida that Democrats have yet
Speaker 1: to utilize. Coming up next, my conversation with the founder
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Speaker 1: I am very excited to welcome to wok F for
Speaker 1: the very first time Sean Shaw, which is who I
Speaker 1: was practicing so that I would not mess that up,
Speaker 1: So let me say that again. I'm very happy to
Speaker 1: welcome to wok F Daily for the very first time
Speaker 1: Sean Shaw, who is the founder of People Over Profits
Speaker 1: and former Florida State representative and also nominee for Florida
Speaker 1: Attorney General, Sean, before we get into your very very
Speaker 1: special state, talk to us about what People Over Profits is.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here. I'm happy to be on here.
Speaker 1: As soon as I saw the title of the show,
Speaker 1: I knew it was one I wanted to be on.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to be here. You know, after my
Speaker 1: Attorney general is raising twenty and eighteen, I wanted to
Speaker 1: stay involved. I wanted to have a vehicle to do
Speaker 1: things on issues that I cared about. And so People
Speaker 1: Over Profits as a C four and we spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time on ballot initiatives here in Florida, killing
Speaker 1: bad ones and trying to help good ones. And of
Speaker 1: course we do a lot of support to candidates, Democratic
Speaker 1: candidates here in Florida. And so it's just a way
Speaker 1: for me to stay involved on issues that I care about,
Speaker 1: whether that's those are voting issues, whether those are you know,
Speaker 1: issues that have a disportion impact on black folks, those
Speaker 1: are ones that I really care about. You know, we
Speaker 1: have a redistricting issues here in Florida as well, So
Speaker 1: things like that are ones that we like to be
Speaker 1: involved in because, as you said, Florida we got a
Speaker 1: lot of work to do in a lot of places,
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to remain involved, and I wanted
Speaker 1: the freedom to be able to do what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do, right. I didn't want to have to work
Speaker 1: through existing channels necessarily. I wanted to be able to
Speaker 1: do work on issues that I cared about. So you know,
Speaker 1: one of the things that caught my attention, right, which
Speaker 1: was a tweet that you sent after or maybe actually
Speaker 1: during Hurricane Ian, which is, if you are a Fuloridian,
Speaker 1: you should know every single one of your Republican congress
Speaker 1: people and US senators voted against FEMA aid for your state.
Speaker 1: And you know, I want to lift that up because
Speaker 1: it is outrageous to me. Right, the state of Florida
Speaker 1: is essentially, you know, pieces of it are in Hurricane Alley.
Speaker 1: We have seen as climate change, as the climate crisis
Speaker 1: has gotten worse, that the hits are going to cost
Speaker 1: into the billions for this state. So what do you
Speaker 1: make of it, Sean, that all of these representatives at
Speaker 1: this state, which was once purple, right, which once flip
Speaker 1: has flipped blue, is still considered purple, continues to elect
Speaker 1: people who are absolutely out to launch when we are
Speaker 1: talking about the climate crisis and investments that need to
Speaker 1: be made in order to keep people safe. Well, I
Speaker 1: might have some bad news for you because I don't
Speaker 1: think Florida's purple. I think that's part of the answer.
Speaker 1: Damn okay, And a purple state doesn't elect Ron de Santis,
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, Rick Scott Ashley. Those are not moderate Republican politicians.
Speaker 1: Those are extremely right wing politicians. And I think we
Speaker 1: need to come to terms in this state. We keep
Speaker 1: trying to say we're purple, but look who leads us.
Speaker 1: Look who every statewide elected official is except one that's
Speaker 1: a Democrat. All the Republicans that are elected stay wide
Speaker 1: are not moderates, and they don't claim to be moderates,
Speaker 1: and they don't act like moderates. They race each other
Speaker 1: to be as conservative as they can. The Santis is
Speaker 1: shipping migrants from Texas to Martha's Vineyard. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a moderate. No, So they are doing what you know,
Speaker 1: they believe the conservative playbook, which is to lockdown against
Speaker 1: anything that's democratic. And so if Biden wants it, if
Speaker 1: Pelosi wants it, if Humor wants it, they don't. And
Speaker 1: so all the Republicans voted against that build that contain
Speaker 1: that FEMA money. But like you said, you bite your
Speaker 1: nose to spite your face, and so now I think
Speaker 1: it's the height of hypocrisy. Now they are all saying,
Speaker 1: man I sure wish we need some more FEMA money
Speaker 1: down here. These people are hurting it. Well, damn you
Speaker 1: had a chance to actually vote to literally help those people,
Speaker 1: and you took this partisan way out. And their excuses, well,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a standalone bill, and YadA YadA. People are
Speaker 1: sick of hearing that bus. Right, that's Washington, DC. Speed
Speaker 1: those people in Lee County and call your county whose
Speaker 1: house blew away, who have no house, who haven't had
Speaker 1: electricity for two weeks. They need to know that everyone
Speaker 1: who's a Republican that had a chance voted against more
Speaker 1: money for them in exactly a situation like this. That's
Speaker 1: what we've got to keep lifting up and make that
Speaker 1: message known, because you know, all the culture wars in
Speaker 1: the world don't make that fat go away. And that
Speaker 1: is what a lot of this culture war foolishness, at
Speaker 1: least in Florida, that they like to do is to
Speaker 1: make you try to forget about the other bad stuff
Speaker 1: we're doing over here, because we're gonna get you'all riled
Speaker 1: up about black folks. We will get y'all rolled up
Speaker 1: about LGBTQ issues. We gonna get y'all riled up about
Speaker 1: migrants at the border. Florida ain't got no border, but
Speaker 1: we will get y'all routed up about these other things.
Speaker 1: So you don't pay attention to the fact that your
Speaker 1: insurance is too high, that Florida is the most unaffordable
Speaker 1: country in the state, in the country to live in,
Speaker 1: and all these other things. So then, Sean, what is
Speaker 1: it that you think that Democrats are getting wrong about
Speaker 1: the state of Florida, right, Because it's not as if
Speaker 1: y'all haven't had, including yourself, good candidates to run. So
Speaker 1: clearly the message or the messages are not penetrating to
Speaker 1: the people who need to be vote Democrat because they are,
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, you know, cutting off their nose
Speaker 1: despite their face. So what are Democrats getting wrong about
Speaker 1: the messaging in Florida? I think a lot. I think
Speaker 1: the messaging needs to be based on pocketbush pocketbook economic issues.
Speaker 1: I think we're coming across as weird to the average person.
Speaker 1: Because we concentrate on things that they don't necessarily want
Speaker 1: to talk about all the time. And just because you
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about race and you don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about gender issues doesn't make you a bigger
Speaker 1: or a fold It just means I want to talk
Speaker 1: about that because I want to talk about insurance, and
Speaker 1: I want to talk about my rent, and I want
Speaker 1: to talk about why my like I want to talk
Speaker 1: about those things. And I think sometimes we focus on
Speaker 1: issues over here, like the culture war issues. They get
Speaker 1: us so riled up and mad that we forget to
Speaker 1: pivot to the fact that people are paying you know,
Speaker 1: the sciantists under the scientists, insurance rates have gone up
Speaker 1: I think a hundred And I keep mentioning an insurance
Speaker 1: because everyone pays that. And I don't care if you're
Speaker 1: a different count or a a Republican you don't like an
Speaker 1: insurance rates going up. And in Florida we are especially
Speaker 1: sensitive to it because we're the highest in the country.
Speaker 1: All this beachfront property, all these hurricanes that hit, and
Speaker 1: I think that we need to concentrate on those issues.
Speaker 1: And I think we also and climate change that cuts
Speaker 1: across a lot of aisles in Florida, because in Florida
Speaker 1: even Republicans want their water to be nice, and we
Speaker 1: have so many beaches and springs and all those things.
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes people don't understand what Florida is right,
Speaker 1: So Florida is more than just Miami, Fort Laidadale, West
Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Tampa, Jacksonville, Orlando. Florida is a lot of
Speaker 1: rural counties where Democrats get smoked. And we do very
Speaker 1: well in eight to ten counties, but there's sixty seven
Speaker 1: counties in Florida, and we do very badly in the
Speaker 1: other counties. And we've got to figure out a way
Speaker 1: to get into that. And I think part of the
Speaker 1: messaging I just told you is the way to do it.
Speaker 1: But think about who's moving to Florida. Florida has no
Speaker 1: income tax. We're one of the lowest tax states in
Speaker 1: the country. You know who's moving to Florida, retirees that
Speaker 1: are escaping high taxes. Guess what you ought to be
Speaker 1: talking to them about now, don't be talking to them
Speaker 1: about economic issues. They also don't come they're not Democrats,
Speaker 1: like people are moving here, are escaping high taxes. They're
Speaker 1: not our voters. To start with but you can get
Speaker 1: to them if you can convince them. Look, Republicans have
Speaker 1: run the state of Florida for twenty years. What have
Speaker 1: they done. They've made it unaffordable. You know, They've spent
Speaker 1: money on everything but the environment. They've made the you know,
Speaker 1: they've done all these other things that maybe you ought
Speaker 1: to give the Democrats a shot, but I think we
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time. Let me give an example.
Speaker 1: You don't think critical race theory the ban on? It
Speaker 1: pisses me off, And that's all I want to talk
Speaker 1: about it is. It's infuriating, as frustrating, as terrible. But
Speaker 1: I want to win elections too, So after I get
Speaker 1: done pointing out how bad critical race theory is, I
Speaker 1: need to pivot to an issue where I can connect
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Speaker 1: push back a bit because the issue I think with
Speaker 1: regard to the culture wars and who is pushing right
Speaker 1: and lighting up and adding fuel to the fire. Are
Speaker 1: Republicans right? And so you're and I agree with you
Speaker 1: because they are using the LGBTQ community, the black community,
Speaker 1: the Latin X community, and others as their scapegoats for
Speaker 1: what it is that they're not doing and have no
Speaker 1: intention of doing. But when they bring these issues up,
Speaker 1: do you think that it is Democrats that need to
Speaker 1: address it and pivot or not address it at all.
Speaker 1: Because this is because this is where I find the issue.
Speaker 1: If you have roun de santists that is using Florida,
Speaker 1: for instance, as a petri dish to test not policies
Speaker 1: that they want to see nationalize, like for instance, that
Speaker 1: don't say gay bill, and Democrats don't have a proper
Speaker 1: response to that, then are we just allowing them to
Speaker 1: run away again with the narrative If we're like the
Speaker 1: state of Florida rally together to allow you know, felons
Speaker 1: who had served their time to be reinstated to be
Speaker 1: able to vote, and then a bunch of Republicans in
Speaker 1: the state House decide, now the people voted against the
Speaker 1: people voted for this, we don't care. We're overturning it.
Speaker 1: If we don't talk about the attacks on black voters
Speaker 1: in particular, right, then like are we missing the marks?
Speaker 1: So is there a way that you have seen or
Speaker 1: you see that we can do both? And because I
Speaker 1: believe that we can walk and chew gum at the
Speaker 1: same time, I don't think, yeah, you're right, it's pivot.
Speaker 1: You gotta address it, pivot, because if you don't address it,
Speaker 1: your voters are going to look at you like, well,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here where everybody is trash? But
Speaker 1: it is addressing in pivot. And you know, I do
Speaker 1: a lot of my independent research in the black barbershop,
Speaker 1: so I test out a lot of these messages. And
Speaker 1: you know, the Santis is somewhat popular, as is Trump,
Speaker 1: which is very strange because they give them so much
Speaker 1: credit for economic stuff, and they give the Santas so
Speaker 1: much credit for reopening the state so fast. And so
Speaker 1: I asked, well, what about this critical race theory band?
Speaker 1: Y'all cool with that? And they're like, no, it's bad,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad this barbershop was open. See, so you're
Speaker 1: it proves I think exactly what you're saying. We got
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about the critical race band, but we
Speaker 1: also got to pivot to the fact, well he was
Speaker 1: he didn't give enough unemployment check, so none of y'all
Speaker 1: were able to keep your job if you got fired.
Speaker 1: And you know, three hundred thousand people died needlessly because
Speaker 1: he opened the state too. That's you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to do both, like you said, because often it's you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to do both because if we spend
Speaker 1: too much time in one or the other. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're getting the job done, but you do have
Speaker 1: to do both totally gree You know, the the point
Speaker 1: of your organization right is to identify the fact that
Speaker 1: we are living in a time or have probably always
Speaker 1: been where profiteers right are able to create these kind
Speaker 1: of smear campaigns to come in and hoodwink the American
Speaker 1: people to falling for their ropadope. You talked about Florida being,
Speaker 1: you know, the land of retirees, which we all know that,
Speaker 1: but you have a Republican Party that is saying that
Speaker 1: we're going to take away your social we want to
Speaker 1: end you know, quote unquote entitlements, we want to get
Speaker 1: rid of Social Security, we want to get rid of Medicaid.
Speaker 1: So in that respect, what kind of messaging do you
Speaker 1: think we need to have right in your state that
Speaker 1: gets people to pay attention? Because it's scares the hell
Speaker 1: out of me. I got to tell you that the
Speaker 1: Republican Party under Donald Trump is able to peel off
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the fifteen percent of blackmails. That to
Speaker 1: me is terrifying. I don't know if that's just the
Speaker 1: alignment with white supremacy. I don't know if that's self hatred.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. And maybe you know
Speaker 1: from your you know, from your anecdotal research, because like I,
Speaker 1: for one, I have never met those brothers and I
Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't think I ever will. But
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about the peel off right because they're not
Speaker 1: actively trying to go after these groups. It's just trying
Speaker 1: to peel off enough to upset democrats. I heard a
Speaker 1: comment in the barbershop again that was fascinating to me,
Speaker 1: and it was one that I dismissed as soon as
Speaker 1: I heard it, But the more I thought about it,
Speaker 1: the more it worried me, because I think there's some
Speaker 1: truth to it. And there's a barber. There's a barber
Speaker 1: in the barbershop with a maccaht literally, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the barbershop is just about trolley, you know. And
Speaker 1: I told the brothers, I wish you could just arguing
Speaker 1: about Lebron and Jordan like normal. I'm tired of talking
Speaker 1: about politics every time I come in here, but that's
Speaker 1: where it goes to. And this guy said, Sean, both
Speaker 1: parties treat black folks bad. Just talk to me about
Speaker 1: the one that's going to do the most my business
Speaker 1: and the one that's gonna help me build money to
Speaker 1: the best. Both of y'all got problems when it comes
Speaker 1: to treating black folks right, And I of course got defensive,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, well, Democrats have done this.
Speaker 1: And when I got home, you know, the more I
Speaker 1: thought about it, the more I think that might explain
Speaker 1: that some of that Trump stuff. And because you know,
Speaker 1: all Trump tried to talk about, even though he didn't
Speaker 1: do it, was economy and wealth and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But it is scary. I'm like you, I'm scared. And
Speaker 1: if I had the answer to that in Florida, I'd
Speaker 1: be a very rich man. But I'm still convinced it
Speaker 1: is about economic issues at its core. And because you know,
Speaker 1: I named my organization People over Profits, because you know,
Speaker 1: my entire career has been built really on pushing back
Speaker 1: on corporate greed. Of course, I talk about black folks
Speaker 1: issues a lot, but I am convinced that no matter
Speaker 1: who is in the White House or what party controls Congress,
Speaker 1: there's one group of people that are always gonna be okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's corporate America. It doesn't matter what else is going
Speaker 1: on a pandemic, So what a hurricane? So what bregsit
Speaker 1: a war in Ukraine? So what they always gonna be okay?
Speaker 1: And so that is one of the things that that's
Speaker 1: why I named my organization what it is. But I
Speaker 1: just in Florida at least, we have got to talk
Speaker 1: to people about, you know, tourism and is the driving
Speaker 1: force in our economy. And the people that are moving
Speaker 1: here are moving here because of the weather and because
Speaker 1: of the environment. And so you talk to them about
Speaker 1: insurance being too high. You can't afford to stay in
Speaker 1: your home on a fixed income if you're a retiree.
Speaker 1: You talk about, you know, you want to keep a
Speaker 1: golf course nice, you want to keep your beach house nice.
Speaker 1: Talk about things that matter to them. What might not
Speaker 1: matter to them is public education. A lot of these
Speaker 1: people moving here, I mean, that's not gonna move them.
Speaker 1: But that is not gonna move them. And I know
Speaker 1: it seems like I'm doing saying things that aren't naturally
Speaker 1: what Democrats do, But damn it, we got do something
Speaker 1: different than what we've been doing. That's what I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk about. Guns and public education and the same
Speaker 1: old thing. It ain't it ain't moving people. And I'm
Speaker 1: convinced you got to meet people where they're at, not
Speaker 1: where you want them to be. And although we want
Speaker 1: people to be mad about public education, we want people
Speaker 1: to be mad about these things. I think what really
Speaker 1: is going to make people eventually sit up and listens when,
Speaker 1: as you said, you know these people are voting against
Speaker 1: your program, so that you've put in it all your
Speaker 1: life and now they're gonna cut it off. You know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more expensive for your home, and you
Speaker 1: know blah blah blah blah blah. And so it might
Speaker 1: not be a today or tomorrow thing, but I think
Speaker 1: that's how we start digging ourselves out of this whole.
Speaker 1: What do you think? And I just with a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes I have left, I do want to ask,
Speaker 1: as always go fast we're talking about now, I want
Speaker 1: to ask you about a pivotal race, right which which
Speaker 1: is Valdemings and Mark or Rubio. And you know they
Speaker 1: just recently had their debate Valdemings. You know, I honestly
Speaker 1: I see no choice here, but apparently Floridians do. How
Speaker 1: do you think about the like, how do you think
Speaker 1: that her line of messaging is actually working with Floridians
Speaker 1: And what is it? Why are people attached to Marco Rubio? Like,
Speaker 1: what is it about this man that's Floridians cannot get
Speaker 1: rid of him? About him, it's just the R. It's
Speaker 1: the R versus D. It ain't nothing specific to him. Now,
Speaker 1: the scientist, if you ask me that question, there's specific
Speaker 1: reasons that people love him. But Marco is he's just
Speaker 1: a Republican and he happens to be from a part
Speaker 1: of the state where Democrats have to run up the
Speaker 1: score to win statewide, Like we have to win Miami
Speaker 1: Dade by a lot of points to win statewide, and
Speaker 1: the fact that he is Hispanic from Miami Dade makes
Speaker 1: it mathematically really hard for Vow to pull it off.
Speaker 1: But Vow's the best candidate. I think we have the
Speaker 1: cycling where she's got the best shot of anyone because
Speaker 1: she's got the most compelling story. Like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: very hard to call a former police chief, a former
Speaker 1: congress you know, a congresswoman. It's very hard to make
Speaker 1: her weird. Now they've run all these ads of her
Speaker 1: yelling and screaming, and they probably darken you know, how
Speaker 1: they do, but very hard to make val look crazy.
Speaker 1: But um, she's I think she's doing well. One thing
Speaker 1: I do have a concern with, though, is every ad
Speaker 1: I've seen talks about the police chief stuff. And I
Speaker 1: know why she's doing it because it inoculates her against
Speaker 1: what they're going to charge her with. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure police chief language resonates great with black folks and
Speaker 1: young folks, and I might want to see some ads
Speaker 1: that talk about some other things, but everything is chief,
Speaker 1: chief chief, and I know why she's doing it. But
Speaker 1: even I cringe because because I'm starting to feel some
Speaker 1: kind of way too about when I see my brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters being treated as a often police custody. So um,
Speaker 1: that's one little tweak that I might make. And but
Speaker 1: she's doing the best. She's raising money evenly with him,
Speaker 1: which is they am never impossible to incomment. You know,
Speaker 1: Florida races cost ten times anybody else in the country,
Speaker 1: so this is a fifty seventy five million dollars race
Speaker 1: something somewhere around there. Um, she's got the best shot.
Speaker 1: It's still gonna be hard because it's that our versus
Speaker 1: D M. Well Sean. I mean, I want to commend
Speaker 1: you for the work that you are doing, uh in
Speaker 1: your I mean I can't imagine. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine because I mean I sit up here in New
Speaker 1: York scratching my head all the time, but I have
Speaker 1: family down you know, in Florida, as as as many
Speaker 1: people do. Um, and they're just they're dumbfounded with how
Speaker 1: to how you know, people in their own communities just
Speaker 1: continue to vote against their own interests and how to
Speaker 1: permeate through you know that noways um? So for folks
Speaker 1: from woke a f who want to get involved stay
Speaker 1: connected with you, please tell us how they can follow you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sean s. E a n At Shanshaw dot com. Um,
Speaker 1: people the people overprofits dot org. I think is the website,
Speaker 1: but email me is the best way to do it.
Speaker 1: And we're on Twitter at ss h AWFL. And I'm
Speaker 1: easily founded, like I like, listen, I'm in Tampa scratching
Speaker 1: my head about how to figure this out. But we
Speaker 1: got to keep at it because you know, the Santist
Speaker 1: is going to be the leading contender for president and
Speaker 1: so our problem, it's gonna be y'all problem in a minute.
Speaker 1: And so we got to figure this out. Um, and
Speaker 1: you know people are counting on us, and we people
Speaker 1: in Florida deserve and Democratic party that has their shit together.
Speaker 1: And yes, we gotta work on We gotta work on that.
Speaker 1: Per Sean Shaw, thank you so much for making the
Speaker 1: time to join WOKF. Really appreciate you. Thank you. That
Speaker 1: is it for me today, dear friends, an woke ap
Speaker 1: as always, Power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.