1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: From Mediator's World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Kel's we can review with Ryan Kel Kelly and now 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: here's Kel. There's this old joke in regards to animal 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: management that goes like this, There's a town hall meeting 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: in regards to predator management, like coyotes or wolves. Some 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: folks in the room are wanting to shoot predators to 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: control numbers. Others are saying let live, and some are 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: offering other courses of action a middle ground. One of 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: these folks introduces the idea of predator population control by castration. 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: If you are uncomfortable with castration, you could use any 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: method of birth control in place of it. The well 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: meaning person in this joke lays out the fact that 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: shooting coyotes or wolves from helicopters, or having trappers go 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: out and place lego holding traps or cyanide bombs cost money, 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: and people who just don't like the idea of predator 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: death will be appalled and angry. On the other side, 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: if we let the predators continue unabated, then this will 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: cost the state lots of money still, because the state 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: will pay depredation money to those ranchers suffering losses. Ranchers 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: will be angry at the loss of time, money, and 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: appalled that the killing of livestock was allowed to continue. 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: So here's this Fellows middle ground option. We'll capture those predators, 23 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: will castrate them, and release them back into the wild. 24 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: The population of predators won't grow, but they won't be killed. 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: The audience in the town hall is thinking this over. 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Some have even come to think, like, hey, maybe this 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: could be an option. When an old rancher stands up 28 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and says, son, those coyotes and wolves aren't breeding my 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: cattle to death, they're eating him. Now, before I get 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: to the point of telling you this joke, for all 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: of you who have heard this one a million times, 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: I do know how to tell this one better, but 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: not when kids are listening, all right, So hold off 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: on right and end to ask cal to tell me 35 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: the better version. Anyway. A recent article by that fantastic 36 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: journalist Pat Durkin at meat eater dot com titled incredible 37 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: waste of money America's most ineffective deer management program will 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: undoubtedly refresh that tired old joke. Only in this version 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: will swap coyotes and wolves for white tails and livestock 40 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: depredation for vehicle and landscape damage. New York City gave 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: one thousand, seven d nineteen white tail bucks on Staten 42 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Island vass sectomys over the past four autumns. Steven Ronnella 43 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: will tell you the procedure isn't that big of a deal. 44 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Only in his case, his insurance likely paid for part 45 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: of a door. You know, it was just a personal expense, 46 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: whereas in the Staten Island snip, the taxpayers are paying 47 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: for this one, and despite public opposition from those pesky 48 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: wildlife biologists, the bill is rising and taxpayers are paying 49 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: for it. So far, buck Fast sectomy costs have exceeded 50 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: two thousand five dollars per year roughly four point one 51 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: million dollars, which, oddly enough, according to the Policy Genius website, 52 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: is about what the procedure would cost a human here 53 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: in the state of Montana. According to the same website, 54 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: state of Rhode Island can take care of this for 55 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: only if only they had the same deer problem. I 56 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: guess if perhaps you were thinking about the reasoning behind 57 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: snipping bucks and letting the ladies remain intact, Dirk incites 58 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a Cornell University study that shows that although tying the 59 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: tubes of white tailed does does prevent pregnancy, it also 60 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: allows for the dough to continually cycle in to estrus, 61 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: signaling the opportunity to breed to surrounding bucks. In this study, 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: although the fawn population dropped by the buck population rose 63 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: an astounding eight hundred and seventy three. How could this 64 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: be well, the mindset of what we fall into when 65 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: reading these studies is possibly the mindset of Mayor to Blasio. 66 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: We think of the deer as a static population, a 67 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: controllable number. If that were the case, then how did 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: the deer get to Staten Island in the first place? 69 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: They swam? Or in Cornell's study, bucks from nearby areas, 70 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: as in outside the study area smelled the scent of 71 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: dough and estris and ran into the study area. Oddly enough, 72 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: a dough that goes unbred, like in the case of 73 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: a testicalist buck successfully mounting but not breeding the dough, 74 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: that dough, although going through the sexual act, is not bread, 75 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: so that dough will continue to go into estrius as well, 76 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, because the point is to make more dear, 77 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: not just to be mounted. I guess. So it seems 78 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: as if in either case of sterilization tying the tubes 79 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: of a dough or vasectomes for bucks, nature still finds way. 80 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: The buck just doesn't stop there. I guess interesting aside. 81 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I have a friend who lives and works in the 82 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: District of Columbia, d c, our nation's capital. He has 83 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: been involved in the culling, killing, hunting of deer and 84 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: the supply of that dear meat to food banks in 85 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: that area for many, many years. He once sent me 86 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: a picture of himself with a white tail he had 87 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: just leafully removed from a property. In the background of 88 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: that picture was our nation's capital, YEP in Staten Island, 89 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: New York, to prove him effective and much more cost 90 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: effective method dear removal from the urban environment is too dangerous. 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: This week we've got corrections, updates, giant anchovies, and so 92 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: much more. But first I'm gonna tell you about my week. 93 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: As all of you wonderful listeners and participants. When I 94 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: say participants, I'm speaking about you folks that right in 95 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: and send in info from your neck of the woods. No, 96 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: my week and this podcast is powered by Steel Power Equipment, 97 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: world's first and finest chainsaws Anyway, I finally bagged a 98 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: couple of turkeys last week, and I learned something. If 99 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: you recall my hunting story about Tom giving me the slip, 100 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: possibly due to a Jake decoin, I spread well, j 101 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: honest poo tell Us tells me that jake's late in 102 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: the season will group up and beat up on single Toms. 103 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: It happens to be a pretty darn good year for 104 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the jake turkey population. There are plenty roaming around in 105 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: this last weekend, I was working Tom when a four 106 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: pack of Jake started calling the Tom shut up and 107 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: effectively disappeared. This repeated itself throughout the weekend, but eventually 108 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: ended up with one Jake and one Tom, neither in 109 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the way. I really wanted to be back in a turkey. 110 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: It's just so much fun to watch those birds come 111 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: in and interact with the decoy that decoying is the 112 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: preferred method. But this go around, I had made up 113 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: my mind that Saturday I was holding out for Tom. Sunday, 114 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: anything will do. As I vowed, this was my last 115 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: turkey venture of the year so I could get onto fishing. 116 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is nobody wanted to play my game, 117 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: so I ended up popping over a ridge and shooting 118 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: a jake. Then, with a combination of calling and crawling, 119 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: I got in range of a young, yet fifteen pound 120 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: tom and came home with both of those two. When 121 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I got home, I collected all the carcasses from the season, 122 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: put next backs, shanks, and even the feet into a stockpot, 123 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: and made a beautiful, rich urkey stock. The backs still 124 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: had bits of long blood, kidney, and even a few 125 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: testicles in them. I know this may turn off a 126 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: few listeners, but the end product is the best I 127 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: have ever had. This was a very simple stock, and 128 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: even long before it was reduced, I was blown away 129 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: by how good it tasted. Along with this cooking, it 130 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: is a very good long time friend of mine's upcoming 131 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: forty birthday. As I write this, in fact, I think 132 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: his birthday was yesterday, and in preparation for his big 133 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: forty birthday party, I did a pile of cooking. The 134 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: plating and the finishing will take place on the banks 135 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: of the Missouri River the Mighty mo I'm going Korean 136 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: with my last huge oregon elk shank doing the wild 137 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: game rendition. A chef David Chang's bosam recipe, which is 138 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: kind of like a sugar cured ham that gets pulled 139 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: into taco meat, covered an amazing aromatics asses with lots 140 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: of toppings that I did skewers a collected turkey gizzards 141 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: and hearts, duck hearts, duck gizzards, and then all the 142 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: turkey wings even through in a couple of turkey tales. 143 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: Cooked all these gently too tender, covered in Korean wing 144 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: sauce recipe provided by one woo j and a whole octopus. 145 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: All of this a little sugary, and I'm finishing it 146 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: over an open fire to give it some char and smoke. 147 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Holy cats, friends and neighbors, it can be so nice 148 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: to experiment a little in the kitchen and tested on 149 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: your friends. Happiest of birthdays, Ryan Parker Thompson. Another interesting 150 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: thing about the old Missouri River on which I have 151 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: spent many good and many frustrating days, getting pushed the 152 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: wrong direction by wind and sometimes the wrong direction by 153 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: the jaw dropping amount of anglers on that river. I 154 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: was speaking with Buddy Mine who works there at Adipose 155 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Boat Works, and hell in him Montana Justin is his name? 156 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: What I like about Ada Post other than the fact 157 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: that their skiffs are really great boats to fish out of, 158 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: is the fact that simultaneously, as they cater to a 159 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: very picky fly fishing clientele, you just wouldn't have an 160 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: adipose drift, or if you weren't a little picky out 161 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: of pose. Boat Works modifies jetboats. This all happening under 162 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: one roof is a classic oil and water situation for many, 163 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: I call it bipartisan boat building. Anyway, we were talking 164 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: all things Montana, and one of the things that came 165 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: up is the fishing regulation change from the two thousand 166 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: nineteen unlimited walleye keeping regulation on the section of the 167 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: Missouri River from Holter Damn to Cascade Bridge, going from 168 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: unlimited keep to a twenty daily forty in possession regulation 169 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: inok on that exact same stretch, suggesting that although non 170 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: native and invasive, the wally has earned a degree of 171 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: right on the Upper Missouri. Then, of course we talked 172 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: about the fact that, um, what the heck is natural 173 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: and native? It is not the brown trout, which you 174 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: can only keep one of on this stretch. It is 175 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: not the rainbow trout of which you can keep three 176 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: and it sure as heck is not the dam. The damn, 177 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: of course, is the thing that releases warmed up water 178 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: from the reservoir above and is very beneficial to the 179 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: fish below it, whether you prefer those darned slimmers or 180 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: the eyes slimmers being a derogatory term for trout, of course, 181 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: brings me to a great question sent in by a listener, 182 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: James writes in asking what makes a species native or 183 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: non native? And how long does it take to make 184 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: a non native species native? Great great question, James, and 185 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: the answer is who would you rather fight with? This 186 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: is a can of worms. Just look at the fish 187 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: you discussed second ago about wallye and out. We don't 188 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: like seeing one species harm another, meaning if that dard 189 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: walle i could hurt the trout numbers by eating small 190 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: trouts or the food trout eat, then they shouldn't be 191 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: there until, of course, enough people start to like that 192 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: wally that they all be hard enough to get just 193 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: a bit of regulation change from unlimited to let's say, 194 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: only twenty per day. This is speaking broadly and at 195 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: the same time kind of personally. If you have a 196 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: unique species that is home to only one area and 197 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: for all intensive purposes. It has been and is doing 198 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: great in its area, then we should protect it, even 199 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: if some other tasty critter is introduced that we may 200 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: actually like even more. I will tell you that if 201 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: something disappeared long before people came along, who could you 202 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: know record things on cave walls or paper. Let's say, take, 203 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: for instance, the American lion. I do not think we 204 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: should go drop some lions off in Oklahoma and say, hey, 205 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: we're just putting them back. I think we also need 206 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: to realize, and I am speaking to you bucket biologists 207 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: who drop fish wherever you please. A new species in 208 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: a place where they haven't been takes a toll on 209 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: the whole ecosystem, not just one other species. We'll talk 210 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: more about that later. It's a great question, James. I 211 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: know I didn't answer it directly, and maybe not at all, 212 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: but you can dig on that one for a long time. 213 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: I suggest you do. It's fascinating. Take a look at 214 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: the history of the horse here in America. In your 215 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: follow up question, I'll let you know if I'm in 216 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: the South and looking to home my pistol skills. Good 217 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: luck with the kids and getting outside this season. James 218 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: all Right corrections American alligator in South Carolina. Wow, turns 219 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: out I have a lot of listeners in South Carolina. 220 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. And as it turns out, you South Carolinians 221 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce your county names and island names correctly. First, 222 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: the unfortunate alligator victim was taken and drowned on Kiawa Island, 223 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: not as I stated, Kiowa, which is in Charleston County, 224 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: not Beaufort County, which is actually pronounced Bufort. Your neighbors 225 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: in North Carolina say Beaufort. I don't want to be 226 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: like those folks. Due to all the folks writing in, 227 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: either currently in South Carolina or previously from South Carolina, 228 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: I just need to come down and visit, so right 229 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: in and let me know what's happening conservation wise, and 230 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I'll make a stop and see what's up. And lastly, 231 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: before we move on to the hard hitting conservation news 232 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: that you signed up for, one question in regards the 233 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: meat Eater Land Access Initiative, where the proceeds from all 234 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Ronella who tell Us campaign merchandise goes to providing access 235 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: to more hunting and fishing for America. Well, listener writes 236 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: in saying quote, I firmly believe everyone should have access 237 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: to all public lands. I'm setting up the beneficiary for 238 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: my retirement account at work, and since none of my 239 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: hateful family members deserve my money when I die in 240 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: a tragic hunting accident, I would like my money to 241 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: go to something more worthwhile. Great question, no to answer it. 242 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: Meat Eater is a for profit business, and the Land 243 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: Access Initiative, although a cool and generous move, is not 244 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: a nonprofit. You can donate your savings too. You can 245 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: buy merch and we'll put that money to good use. 246 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: But if you don't want to do that, there's good 247 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: news for you. Before your family gets you in that 248 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: aforementioned unfortunate hunting accident. Oops. You can set up a 249 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: trust with all manner and nonprofits to make sure your 250 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: hard earned bucks go to more bucks, or habitat, or 251 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: waterfowl or access sometimes all the above. Do your research 252 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: and find the group that speaks to what you are 253 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: passionate about. I know which ones I like, Backcountry Hunters 254 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: and Anglers, Teddy Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, Pheasants Forever, National Wild 255 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Turkey Federation, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, National Wildlife Federation. All 256 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: the state Wildlife Federation members do some homework and it's 257 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: a great idea. I know my sister's kid is too 258 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: spoiled to need my cash too. Moving on, If you 259 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: like me, cannot order a Caesar salad if it does 260 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: not come with anchovies, you will like this one. Researchers 261 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: at the University of Michigan used to sort of jacked 262 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: up cat scan technology called micro computed tomography to perform 263 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: an in depth analysis of two fifty five million year 264 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: old fish fossils, one forty long, one long. Despite having 265 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: rows of sharp teeth consistent with predators, including one long 266 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: saber tooth located at the front of the jaw, the 267 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: fish were found to be ancient anchovies. There are many 268 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: different species of anchovies swimming and being hand today. The 269 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: largest anchovie swimming currently is the Japanese grenadier anchovy, which 270 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: can be found up to the twenty mark. Another interesting 271 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: fact about this species is although salt water dwelling, they've 272 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: been found to go six hundred miles up the Yangsee River. However, 273 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: none of our current anchovy species are considered predators, and 274 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: not a one has a saber tooth. The theory is 275 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: that the anchovy was the beneficiary of a mass extinction event, 276 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: not just because it survived, but because a lot of 277 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: its predators did not. The anchovy grew and changed to 278 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: exploit its climb up the predator pecking order. The question 279 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: is what came along to knock them back down. Next 280 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: up from the invasive species desk murder hornets two inch long, 281 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: three inch wingspanned hornets exactly one in the US to 282 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: be exact. Bring the kids inside, you fools. I'm kidding. 283 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Of course, I won't bore you too much with this one, 284 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: because you've already heard it twice right here on the 285 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: Weekend Review, long before the mainstream media needed to rename 286 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: them murder hornets. We've covered this topic and it's just 287 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: not that sensational. As you know. The State of Washington 288 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: is looking for volunteers and vigil citizens to report any 289 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: sightings of the potentially destructive species. The Asian giant hornet 290 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: does not eat you. It does eat honey bees, which 291 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: is very concerning really for everyone, But immediately for those 292 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: looking to pollinate crops, they maybe put up some honey. 293 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Here is a cool fact for you. In Japan, it 294 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: has been documented that when an individual hornet enters the 295 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: hive of a honey bee, the bees will swarm the individual, 296 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: completely covering the two inch long hornet in themselves. Then 297 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: they vibrate their wings. Temperatures inside these b balls can 298 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: exceed one twenty two degrees, which will kill the intruder. 299 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: Be leave it. Next up the Argentine black and white tegu, 300 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: a four ft long, ten plus pound iguana like lizard, 301 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: actually monitor like lizard. I first heard of this lizard 302 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: from a friend in Florida who is working to document 303 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: and eradicate the reptiles there. This story, however, is out 304 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: of Georgia, where the tegu has just officially established itself. 305 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: Georgia d n R are warning residents of tombs and 306 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: tattnall counties. Uh. The email is a s k C 307 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: A L at the Meat eater dot com. Go ahead 308 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: and let me know how I did on the pronunciation 309 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: of those two. Anyway, if you reside or wander through 310 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: that region of Georgia, be on the lookout and do 311 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: what you can to help mitigate the spread of these 312 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: unwanted lizards. They are burrowers, so fill any holes on 313 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: your property that may serve as a dam. Remove brush 314 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: and collect your chicken eggs before they go to feed 315 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: something other than you. The tegu is an excellent survivor 316 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: due to both its diet and what appears to be 317 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: seasonal endothermi. The dentition of this critter is well familiar. 318 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: The tegu has molars in the rear for crushing fruit 319 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: and plants, and teeth in the front for small animals, 320 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: insects and eggs. Sound familiar. Now for the other thing 321 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: I said, reptiles are not endothermic, essentially, meaning that their 322 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: body temperature is tied to the ambient temperature of any 323 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: given day, which is why you can look at YouTube 324 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: videos of people knocking iguanas, which are very fast and 325 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: heat out of trees with sticks in the cold. The 326 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: black and white tegu, although slower in the cold, does 327 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: have a body temperature on average higher than those of 328 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: similar species, and it seems to be able to regulate 329 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: its body temperature slightly more during its reproductive season. This 330 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: is known as reproductive endothermi, which some speculates how birds 331 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: and mammals may have made the evolutionary leap to temperature 332 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: regulation full warm blooded us, in other words, which is 333 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: something you may want to ponder the next time you 334 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: see an attractive member of the opposite sex and feel 335 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: your face get flush in your temperature rise. Georgia, being 336 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: a state famous for turkeys and turkey hunting, should pay 337 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: special attention to this one. The tegu is a ground 338 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: nesting bird's nightmare. But it doesn't stop there. Tegus have 339 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: been captured on camera walking right past an American alligator 340 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: guarding her nest to grab an egg. The alligator apparently 341 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: did not recognize the foreigner as a threat. Good news here. 342 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: If they are anything like iguanas, they taste a lot 343 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: like chicken, maybe a little like catfish. Georgia din R 344 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: would like to remind everyone that there are no state 345 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: wildlife laws or regulations protecting these animals. They can be 346 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: humanely and legally trapped or killed. I know the South 347 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: has a lot of hunting opportunities, but if you were 348 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: to add tagu to your list, the birds would take you, 349 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: and the state would take you, and if you came 350 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: up with the killer recipe, some other folks would probably 351 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: take you two. That's all I've got for you this week. 352 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and as per usual, you can always 353 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: get a hold of me at ask cal. That's a 354 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: s k C a L. At the meat eater dot com. 355 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: I want to know what's happening in the wide world 356 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: of conservation in your neck of the woods or marsh. 357 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Thanks again, I'll talk to you next week.