WEBVTT - Major Update, Major Setback in Guthrie Case

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that folks did is Wednesday, February eighteenth, and a

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<v Speaker 1>highly anticipated and major update in the gu three case.

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<v Speaker 1>A major update that turned out to be a major setback. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>the sheriff out in Arizona did a new round of

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<v Speaker 1>media interviews yesterday and gave several interesting and even confusing updates.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Bros. Major

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<v Speaker 1>setback in that this was a highly anticipated result. We

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<v Speaker 1>were waiting on DNA from the gloves.

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<v Speaker 2>We got that back, yes, and it did not match

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<v Speaker 2>that DNA did not match any known suspect in this

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<v Speaker 2>federal or I guess this national database of folks who

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<v Speaker 2>have been processed through our judicial system. So they did

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<v Speaker 2>not lead to any conclusive suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>And again this is in robes as far as leads go,

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<v Speaker 1>as major leads go, have been a whole lot, at

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<v Speaker 1>least they've shared with us. But it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>they have a whole lot. When you sit and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the sheriff, he doesn't seem confident and whatnot. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal because what the gloves they said,

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<v Speaker 1>match the gloves that the suspect has on in that

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<v Speaker 1>ring camera. So this could be the suspect's gloves and wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there's DNA in those gloves. It was just there were

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<v Speaker 1>high hopes that this could lead to something.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, There were expectations that perhaps this could be the

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<v Speaker 2>smoking gun, or this could be the thing that leads

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<v Speaker 2>us directly to Nancy Guthrie or at least find the

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<v Speaker 2>person who took her. The other thing that was a

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<v Speaker 2>little confusing to me. Well, we'll get into a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the confusion. But the DNA that was found in

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<v Speaker 2>the gloves is not the same DNA that was found

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<v Speaker 2>inside the Guthrie home.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Yeah, so there's another set of DNA apparently that

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<v Speaker 1>was found inside the house, and there is where some

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<v Speaker 1>confusion lies. That we'll get into a couple of updates

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<v Speaker 1>from the share or we'll get into as well. This

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a proof of life that the family has

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<v Speaker 1>been asking for, Well, he did bring that up in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to also a proof of death. We'll explain that.

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<v Speaker 1>Also he talked about this being Yes, this phrase came

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<v Speaker 1>up cold case. We'll explain what he was saying there.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, robes they might have to turn to, not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily law enforcement, but maybe commercial companies to piece this together. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>with this DNA with genealogy, gets your help in explaining

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<v Speaker 1>that when we get into that. But let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to this gloves reminding folks, this was a set of

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<v Speaker 1>gloves that were filed two miles away from the house

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<v Speaker 1>in ropes. These stood out and it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>incredible to hear that they were finding so many sets

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<v Speaker 1>of gloves as they were canvassing great the area.

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<v Speaker 2>More than a dozen I believe, maybe the number fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>I read that. That's how many pairs of gloves were

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<v Speaker 2>strewn about on the radius around Guthrie's house. Most of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they acknowledged, were from who were wearing gloves looking for evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to imagine that searchers, trained investigators would just throw

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<v Speaker 2>their gloves on the ground in this beautiful pristine land

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<v Speaker 2>that we have. But apparently they're litterers too. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>there were gloves everywhere, but there was one pair that

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<v Speaker 2>they said match within two miles of Nancy Guthrie's home.

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<v Speaker 2>That matched appeared to match, I believe, was the phrase

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<v Speaker 2>they used. The gloves that were seen on the suspect

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<v Speaker 2>on Nancy Guthrie's front porch.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a big deal of all the gloves. You

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<v Speaker 1>found these stood out to you all that was relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rhoades they find the gloves and then we get

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<v Speaker 1>into some kind of I don't even know how to

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<v Speaker 1>explain it that well. But the DNA needed to be tested.

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<v Speaker 1>What lab is it tested at? It got sent to Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they couldn't give some result because it had

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<v Speaker 1>to come.

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<v Speaker 2>What was this It was some sort of law, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that is a state law that there had to

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<v Speaker 2>be an Arizona lab had to act process the DNA

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<v Speaker 2>and so when And the question was why would the

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<v Speaker 2>Sheriff's department not know that? So why would they send

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way to this lab in Florida and

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<v Speaker 2>then only to have the Florida lab say we can't

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<v Speaker 2>give you the results. Have to go then retest the

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<v Speaker 2>DNA in an Arizona lab to then get the results

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<v Speaker 2>we got yesterday, which were a big disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he in some of his interviews tried to

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<v Speaker 1>explain why he had to do the process that way. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but ultimately nothing matched. And again the CODIS system, as

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<v Speaker 1>was the acronym here combined DNA index system. You hear

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time, certainly if you watch true crime,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you just watch a lot of fictional TV

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<v Speaker 1>and crime dramas, they use cotis cotis codis. You watch

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<v Speaker 1>any trials, you'll hear COTIS a lot of times. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's the combined DNA index system is what it stands for.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just a database and national database, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>rogues of DNA profiles of convicted folks. So the DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>they have it, but they don't match it to anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>But they have somebody's DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>On a pair of gloves that may or may not

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<v Speaker 2>be connected to the Guthrie kidnap.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the thing we had to remember that robes.

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<v Speaker 1>These gloves might have nothing to do with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody could have gotten hot while driving, or they fell

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<v Speaker 2>out of their pockets when they were cold at night

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<v Speaker 2>walking around the desert. I don't know. It could have

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of different reasons why there were gloves there.

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<v Speaker 2>The bigger issue, I would think doesn't take an investigator

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<v Speaker 2>to realize this, that that DNA inside the house that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't match Nancy Guthrie or any of her family members

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<v Speaker 2>or close friends. That DNA would seemingly be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more important and potentially much more likely to actually be

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<v Speaker 2>from the suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it is more important. And the sheriff doing these

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<v Speaker 1>interviews and explaining or the disappointment of the DNA and

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<v Speaker 1>the gloves not matching anything, he almost wrote qualified those

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<v Speaker 1>gloves now, he said, I'm much more concerned about what's

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<v Speaker 1>in the house now I would be about some gloves

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<v Speaker 1>two miles away. I'm fine, and we get that. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was a little more dismissive of the gloves after

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>But makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>He was saying, the DNA in the house is critical.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where some confusion came in. I turned

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<v Speaker 1>to you even listening to his interviews and saying, did

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<v Speaker 1>they test the DNA? Did they tell us that they

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<v Speaker 1>put that through codis, Because sure enough, in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the interviews he did with someone, will you hear him

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<v Speaker 1>clearly say that the DNA in the house, we may

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<v Speaker 1>need to put that through codis. Later say what he

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<v Speaker 1>clearly says, the DNA in the house has not been

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<v Speaker 1>put into this DNA database to see if they get

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<v Speaker 1>a match. But Robes then we turned to another interview.

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<v Speaker 2>He did, and he said that it had been tested

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<v Speaker 2>and that it was an unknown person.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, no match from the DNA in the house either,

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<v Speaker 1>But again he said something different to another reporter, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they'll clear that up. Again. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>lie coming at him, and maybe he got an update

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<v Speaker 1>in between interviews, who knows, but he gave two different

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<v Speaker 1>answers to them.

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<v Speaker 2>My thought was that maybe he just misunderstood or he

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<v Speaker 2>misspoke in terms of how he characterized the DNA from

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<v Speaker 2>the house, because you and I both looked at each

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<v Speaker 2>other and said, it wouldn't make any sense that investigators

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<v Speaker 2>would have the DNA from the gloves tested but not

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<v Speaker 2>yet the DNA in the house tested, which they had

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<v Speaker 2>before they even knew of the gloves. So they've had

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<v Speaker 2>this DNA from the home almost from day one, it seems,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, within the first few days at least of

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<v Speaker 2>her disappearance, they said they had this DNA that was

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<v Speaker 2>not Nancy Guthries inside the home. So we have known

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<v Speaker 2>about this DNA for much longer than anything in the gloves,

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<v Speaker 2>So it would make zero sense that they hadn't tested

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<v Speaker 2>that yet or hadn't processed that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, to your point, it may may have just

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<v Speaker 1>bespoke a little bit in that moment. But the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>at this point has led to nothing. We will mention

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Robes and a couple of reporters asked. And

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of this being a cold case, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>seem too in his interviews. Have a major lead right

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<v Speaker 1>now that they're following that video is key and they're

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<v Speaker 1>analyzing and whatnot. But they it hasn't sent them in

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<v Speaker 1>a particular direction. But the word, the phrase cold case,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hear, he explained, at least rogues.

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<v Speaker 1>And it makes sense. This case is not coal. It's

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<v Speaker 1>only cold if you don't have a lead to follow,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have literally thousands of leads to follow, they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And in spite of the fact that they had,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they said, was it thirty, forty, fifty thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>like crazy numbers of leads coming in. You still hear

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<v Speaker 2>him on these rounds he made throughout the day yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>with all of these reporters, still asking for the public's help,

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<v Speaker 2>still saying, Hey, even if you think it's nothing, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you think I don't want to bother them, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you think, oh, they already have too many tips,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to flood their tip line. Call us anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's our job.

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<v Speaker 1>That was funny, you're bringing up making me at least

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<v Speaker 1>remember he used a bizarre almost reference. He said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this person might call and that's a Tier one lead,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's somebody else who might have just had

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<v Speaker 1>a dream last night about aliens abducting Nancy Guthrie. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a level four lead. But if I tell you not

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<v Speaker 1>to call, then somebody else who has a very important

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<v Speaker 1>lead might call. He used a weird reference, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, we got we need everybody to call in

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<v Speaker 1>and keep calling in. But Rose, that's the suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>they seem to not have a whole lot in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>But we heard a few other updates from him that

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<v Speaker 1>were they kind of make your ears perk up. Stay here,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you what he said about clearing the family

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<v Speaker 1>and why he is still still convinced this was a kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue here on this Wednesday morning here on

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJ. Ropes. It's in some of the interviews

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<v Speaker 1>we did yesterday and listening to the shaff here talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the GOV three case. I don't know. I try

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<v Speaker 1>not to interpret body language in the words being used sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he almost lacked a confidence to a certain degree

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<v Speaker 1>when asked very specifically about it being an abduction, very

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about being a kidnapping. Do you still stand by

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<v Speaker 1>and he used some words sometimes, Well I do. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I still believe. I don't know what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's giving us and you and I have had

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<v Speaker 1>to make this decision on our podcast doing non update updates,

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<v Speaker 1>like he sits down for all these interviews for updates

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't get really updates. But this was a

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<v Speaker 1>it was weird to listen to him. Doesn't he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound that sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's ever sounded sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>From the beginning, I feel like that's been a complaint

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like. It's not as if he isn't Let

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<v Speaker 2>me put this the right way. No one is saying

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<v Speaker 2>he isn't competent. But it's just that he makes it

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<v Speaker 2>very clear that he is just as baffled as the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn. There it is, and I don't want that from

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<v Speaker 1>my share. Maybe that's what it is. Okay, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good there you go. That's what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like dang. If he's that unsure, then wow, what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling is absolutely fair. Like you just want to

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<v Speaker 2>think that they're at least going down the right path,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not sure that's the case when you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, hot pursuit, that's what you want. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like they're in hot pursuit of this lady.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very important. I forgot to put this in

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<v Speaker 1>our note there roads, but this is a very important

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<v Speaker 1>note because of TMZ. He did address at least the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of what we're hearing about TMZ getting all these

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<v Speaker 1>notes from someone who says they know who the kidnapper

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<v Speaker 1>or kidnappers are, said be prepared to go international, and

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<v Speaker 1>said they saw something south of the border. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he addressed this idea. He said, they have no reason

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<v Speaker 1>to believe they're still doing in what they're doing in

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<v Speaker 1>their search area. Said authorities are aware of those notes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he suggested that not actively pursuing anything south of

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<v Speaker 1>the border.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he didn't seem like Mexico was on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't seem as though there was any active investigation

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<v Speaker 2>into the credibility of whether or not Nancy Guthrie could

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<v Speaker 2>be with an abductor or abductors in Mexico. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge that at all. And you would think unless they're

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the investigation in some way, which could always be

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<v Speaker 2>the case, but he absolutely, by what he said, did

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<v Speaker 2>completely seem to dismiss that concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you make of that? What do you if that

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<v Speaker 1>is the case, what do you then? That means they

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<v Speaker 1>are lending not a whole lot of credibility to these

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<v Speaker 1>notes being sent to TMZ.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm curious why just from the reporters that

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<v Speaker 2>that we watched and we saw, it didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 2>they got specific about some of those things, like the

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<v Speaker 2>questions that I wanted to ask him. I didn't hear

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<v Speaker 2>being asked by reporters specifically about the TMZ and the

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<v Speaker 2>credibility and how seriously they're taking it and have they

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<v Speaker 2>actually been pursuing what this person who has written four

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<v Speaker 2>emails now has claimed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe we missed, maybe we didn't watch all the

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<v Speaker 1>interviews and maybe haven't read every single article, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>got to that's a significant Are we talking to legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>players or not? That's a big deal. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest lead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's the only thing that we know about at

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<v Speaker 2>least that has seemed to offer a direction for the investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>And whether or not this person is just full of

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<v Speaker 2>it or not would seem to be very important that

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<v Speaker 2>you could decide pretty quickly. I saw someone online asking,

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<v Speaker 2>with it being twenty twenty six and all, how is

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<v Speaker 2>it that we aren't able to trace these people sending

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<v Speaker 2>these emails? How to if we're even getting bitcoin addresses

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<v Speaker 2>and we know how to give them money, but we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who they are. That is shocking to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks with the technology we have, that we

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<v Speaker 2>are now like two weeks into it, we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who is sending emails repeatedly. Yes, not even like letters

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<v Speaker 2>with strange postmarks. No, these are emails that have IP addresses,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>That is confusing to me. They can track down anybody anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems. Yes, a very good point, Robes, but if

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<v Speaker 1>this is so hard, that has got to be your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest lead unless you have a reason for knowing it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>You have somebody telling you they know who the kidnapper is.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw them, I saw her, and that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest lead you have, he did, wouldn't you even come out?

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<v Speaker 1>And no, no, I'm not going to speculate on that. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like they are chasing that down publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right or they don't want us to know they are.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I always hold that to be possible as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know. I thought it was really interesting when

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<v Speaker 2>he was asked and I saw a very detailed, a

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<v Speaker 2>very detailed report about how they cleared the Guthries. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this was interesting what was going on behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes that we didn't know as all of this speculation

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<v Speaker 2>was going on about whether or not the brother in

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<v Speaker 2>law and the sister who last saw Nancy Guthrie had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with her disappearance. He talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>all of the family members and their spouses had their

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<v Speaker 2>home searched, had their view searched, had their DNA extracted,

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<v Speaker 2>they went through interrogations. He said, these family members were

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<v Speaker 2>treated as suspects basically, and they now have been completely

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<v Speaker 2>cleared and are deemed victims. But he was like, just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going through the process of getting cleared. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not an easy or a comfortable situation, especially when speculation

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<v Speaker 2>is swirling around you. So I just thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting people for people to take a step back and

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<v Speaker 2>think about. While you're grieving the loss of your mother

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<v Speaker 2>or not knowing where she is and fearing the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>you now are also going through a fairly rigulous, rigorous

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<v Speaker 2>process where you have to be cleared from actually being

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<v Speaker 2>considered a suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did that immediately, and we all know that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did. I say, we know that. Obviously, that's

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<v Speaker 1>detective work. One oh one. They were all treated as suspects.

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<v Speaker 1>I all was great that he sorry for him to

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say so definitively. I think he used

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he did a hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent cleared, and I did appreciate that. Hey, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the timing of he didn't have to do this. He

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<v Speaker 1>chose to put that statement out to say, get off

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<v Speaker 1>the backs of the family. Did we ever hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Banfield? Did you say anything I regard this? I

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<v Speaker 1>did not.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not in any major way.

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<v Speaker 1>We can okay, we can do that at another time.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing here the genealogy robes what other case

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<v Speaker 1>or we were watching something or but they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>now the twenty three and me type folks can take DNA. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's familiar with this. Yes, at this point, you put

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<v Speaker 1>your DNA in there, and all from of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you start finding relatives with DNA matches. That's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to possibly do. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a new second cousin just yesterday in

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<v Speaker 2>an email alert. So look this. Yes we all anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who has gone on these No I didn't see that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, so you if they even if the person

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<v Speaker 2>the suspect didn't join twenty three and Me or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>genealogy website you for, one of his relatives likely has.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're talking, it could be anything from a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a random cousin to a direct descendant to a sibling.

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<v Speaker 2>But they can find someone who is related to this

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<v Speaker 2>DNA and literally go through a family tree and figure

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<v Speaker 2>out who the suspect, or at least narrow it down

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<v Speaker 2>quite significantly as to who this possibly could be. And

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<v Speaker 2>there have been plenty of cases. We were just talking,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, yesterday about a true crime story we were watching.

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<v Speaker 2>This is happening more and more and more folks go

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<v Speaker 2>on to twenty three and meter and even if you didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>one of your relatives, did you ken and will be

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<v Speaker 2>likely found.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen true crime episodes about this where they can

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<v Speaker 1>narrow it down. Okay, the killer is one of these

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<v Speaker 1>five guys, and they just went and found those five

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<v Speaker 1>guys and starting narrowing it down, so it could be helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll keep an eye again. No press briefings per usual

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<v Speaker 1>with this case, so we said you won't do another

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<v Speaker 1>press conference unless there's a major update. He decides to

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<v Speaker 1>do a round of interviews in which we got little

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<v Speaker 1>nuggets roads, but we haven't gotten the big break yet.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not, but we will continue, of course, to

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<v Speaker 2>follow this story closely. It's just shocking that we're now

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of week three and still doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>like we're any closer than we were on February one.

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<v Speaker 2>But my goodness. We can only hope that investigators get

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<v Speaker 2>that break they're looking for, and you can make sure

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<v Speaker 2>we will be on top of it for you in

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime. That were everybody, Thank you for listening. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Amy Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you soon.