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Speaker 1: Look, may oh, I see you my own look over

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Speaker 1: there is that culture. Yes, lost culture loves culturists calling

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Speaker 1: to the Mother Convention.

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Speaker 2: The Mother Convention, Megan trainers on Kelly Clerks and officially

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Speaker 2: the Mother Convention has begun. Wait, we can't start the

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Speaker 2: next calling Megan Trainer mother. We were the first to

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Speaker 2: call Megan. No, we were, you were, not me. Don't

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Speaker 2: drag me into this.

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Speaker 3: You're You're already done, been dragged, and that's what you

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Speaker 3: need more than ever, dragging you, dragging you want to

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Speaker 3: be dragged today.

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Speaker 4: Not by you.

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Speaker 2: No, I just think the public should drag.

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Speaker 3: No. I don't want you inviting this because then I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have to hear about it later.

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Speaker 2: No, what are you talking? No, I really do think

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Speaker 2: you want the public to drag you. I want someone

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Speaker 2: to put me in my place in a way that

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Speaker 2: is like helpful, And I guess you are the only person. Honey.

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Speaker 3: A therapist, Honey, my therapist. I see your therapist.

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Speaker 2: I pay my therapist to validate me at every turn.

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Speaker 2: And I go that article that's like, is there be

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Speaker 2: making us more selfish?

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Speaker 3: You know, for the very first time, a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: my therapist said to me that maybe my behavior was

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Speaker 2: Even that's a little too nice of a frame. I

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Speaker 2: think it was just for anybody, Like was he trying

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Speaker 2: to say, she excuse me? Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: First of all, check yourself, I wreck you. It's really

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Speaker 3: culture number ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Check yourself before I wreck you. And I'm only get

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Speaker 2: dragged I can do that. My gender bias is only

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Speaker 2: because my therapist is male.

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Speaker 3: Your gender bias is showing like a penis and a

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Speaker 3: g rated film. Get it out of here, Get it

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Speaker 2: Your gender bias is showing like your FYP is showing

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Speaker 2: on your TikTok. Not for other people, mother, don't show

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Speaker 3: No, she told me that my behavior because in the

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Speaker 3: hashtag wake up my breakup, I was doing things that

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Speaker 3: like were sort of like self carry And then at

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Speaker 3: one point she said, is this crossing over into a

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Speaker 3: little indulgent? But I did go see a psychic, yes,

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Speaker 3: doing this that financial and personal reasons, And yeah, I

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Speaker 2: And you went to the same one as me. I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I basically, and I don't know if this will

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about Queen, but she honestly, like

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like, okay, well, first she do you

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Speaker 3: No, but this is so funny. Well, we go to

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Speaker 2: And she goes, your home is in La. No, she

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Speaker 3: I look over at my two biggest champions for moving

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Speaker 3: I'm in there crying because this girl was absolutely nailing

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Speaker 2: Readers. Can we just level set? It is just past

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Speaker 3: But I think that yesterday we sort of went hard

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Speaker 3: And my therapist said, yes, people do have a heightened sense.

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Speaker 2: Is that's how they get you to make something happen

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Speaker 2: I will say, a moment of me going I'm concerned

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Speaker 3: It's really giving Scully and Molder and I do think

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Speaker 2: The way vacation has been slaying is I can't describe it.

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Speaker 3: I use my Manscape products and this is not an ad,

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Speaker 3: It stayed in the conversation in my bathroom. Let's just

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Speaker 3: If it's not us If it's like Bethany Frankel doing

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Speaker 3: Bethany Frankel for the US Army is an iHeart thing.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, our podcast is its own advertising platform for Bethany

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Speaker 3: So now whenever you hear Bethany Frankel for the US Army,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go.

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Speaker 2: But I just let me let me tell you about

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Speaker 3: The Army is one of the most amazing things in

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Speaker 3: dot gov or whatever it is, you go Google. Okay,

436
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Speaker 3: So if you can find my TikTok after the shadow,

437
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Speaker 3: bam me. I'm doing a review on the branches of

438
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Speaker 3: the US military.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm reviewing and reviewing Army, Yeah, Air Force, Space Force,

440
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Speaker 2: Space Force, Marians, Marines. You know, we all dated, and

441
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Speaker 2: we all dated. What will remain nameless? I gotta go.

442
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Speaker 3: My daughters driving me fucking crazy, and so my husband.

443
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Speaker 3: Still it's not over all right, Well, US dot Com

444
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Speaker 3: whatever I said, so be all that you can be.

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Speaker 2: I have to say that part. And now I have

446
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Speaker 2: to say, what is this watch top Gun Maverick. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 2: Top Gun Meverick, I got you. That was for the.

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Speaker 4: She do no.

449
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Speaker 3: But like I know, there have been US Army ads.

450
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Speaker 2: Theres been a lot of US Army ads on the podcast.

451
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Speaker 3: Somebody said one time like, why is there an army

452
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Speaker 3: ad on law school?

453
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Speaker 2: We don't know.

454
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Speaker 3: We do not support the military industrial complex. Okay, I mean,

455
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Speaker 3: can we come out and say that.

456
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Speaker 2: We can say that, and iHeart is still gonna be

457
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Speaker 2: like tough titty. We're still putting Bethany Frankle for the

458
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Speaker 2: US Army. It's not that we don't have respect for

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Speaker 2: our men in green, which is I believe the color

460
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Speaker 2: they were, Yes, yeah, men in uniform. Yeah, let's just

461
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Speaker 2: say that, you know, we do our best.

462
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Speaker 3: We try to only give you ads for products that

463
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Speaker 3: we what's it, Let's let's be positive. What's what's a

464
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Speaker 3: good thing we've used. That's an ad we've done. Oh, Hawthorn,

465
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Speaker 3: I love Hawthorne products. I used then the sunscreen.

466
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Speaker 2: Yep, love Hawthorn.

467
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Speaker 3: Remember when McDonald sent us the mcgrib Oh.

468
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Speaker 2: My god, that was a special day. And that was

469
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Speaker 2: right in the throes of lockdown. And I really appreciated

470
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Speaker 2: McDonald's for doing that. Yeah, that was major.

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Speaker 5: Gosh.

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Speaker 2: There's so many. I mean, obviously Kraft Mac and Cheese.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Kraft mac and Cheese. I love down in history.

474
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Speaker 3: It's really gotten down in history. So anyway, corporations, we

475
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Speaker 3: are at the Walt Disney World Resort. Like I said,

476
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Speaker 3: we are staring at the Magic Kingdom. Highlights from yesterday.

477
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Speaker 3: We literally got to do everything. What was your highlights?

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Speaker 2: My highlights was I did multiple lines. I did Ratituy

479
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Speaker 2: and I did Tron light cycle run, both of which

480
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Speaker 2: I had done in other countries international. This is, you know,

481
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Speaker 2: maybe underlining something about globalization that is good and I

482
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Speaker 2: don't know, but the fact that they were the same experience. Yes,

483
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Speaker 2: drag and drop Dragon, drap well in a way that

484
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Speaker 2: was actually comforting. Really anybody that was comforting. So you

485
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Speaker 2: feel like I feel like globalization is the way. Globalization

486
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Speaker 2: is the way I think. I think every country should

487
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Speaker 2: have everything the same.

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Speaker 3: We should all get the same. Okay, this actually is

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Speaker 3: real culture number ninety one. Mobalization is forward. We should

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Speaker 3: all get the same. The Galaxy cosmic rewind.

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Speaker 2: That was artful. That was artful cosmic rewind. I felt

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Speaker 2: like I was going back to the dawn of time. Well,

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Speaker 2: I have news for you, queen. You went back there.

494
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Speaker 2: I went back there, and we got to write it twice.

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Speaker 2: Both times we got I ran so far, I ran

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Speaker 2: so far by fuck of seagulls, Fuck of Seagulls.

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Speaker 3: So basically, when you go on this ride, Guardians of

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Speaker 3: the Galaxy Cosmic Rewinded is an a massive, massive roller

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Speaker 3: coaster that's indoors and they launch you up, and in

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Speaker 3: true Guardians fashion, there is like a classic song that

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Speaker 3: plays during the ride, and we got Iran so.

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Speaker 2: Far by Flap of Seagulls.

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Speaker 3: Both times we were told we could get Conga by

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Speaker 3: Gloria Stefan.

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Speaker 2: So you want to come bad. I want Conga bad.

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Speaker 2: Matt wanted Conga. I wanted and because because multiple people

507
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Speaker 2: at work were like, I really hope you get this

508
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Speaker 2: song Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one and it's one of my favorite songs.

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Speaker 2: I would love, love, love for that to be blasting

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Speaker 2: in my ear as I sit on one of the

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Speaker 2: craziest coasters I've ever.

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Speaker 3: It really was wild, and we're hopefully gonna get to

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Speaker 3: do it again. And I hope can I tell you why?

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Speaker 3: I hope what happens and let's get tactile. I hope

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Speaker 3: that one time it's Conga and one time it's oh.

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Speaker 2: My God, everybody wants to Rule the World. Oh my God,

518
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Speaker 2: we're crying. Get we're touching. I think this is what

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Speaker 2: Disney is all about, and it's about making memories with

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Speaker 2: friends and people.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you for saying. I also, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was an extremely fun day. What did you think

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Speaker 3: of your experience on rides the Resistance, that billion dollar project.

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Speaker 2: That billion dollar project at this scale. I was just

525
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Speaker 2: this and love was obsessed with going inside, outside, inside, outside.

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Speaker 2: Kind of didn't expect it to be like, this is

527
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Speaker 2: the Ratituey ride, but two twenty these trackless vehicles, vehicles,

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Speaker 2: I kind of I'm digging. I'm like the power of magnets. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's really wild. It's I'm feeling like a juggalo because

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Speaker 2: I'm going magnets. How do they work?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Tell me how it works? Magnet. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, we're having a fabulous day. Today is going to

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Speaker 3: be more of a chill we sort of the world

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Speaker 3: and drink.

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Speaker 2: Around the Wild World showcase.

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Speaker 3: We're having an absolutely fabulous day. At the top of

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Speaker 3: the episode, we mentioned the Mother Convention, which was Megan

539
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Speaker 3: Trainer was on Kelly Clarkson and then you sort of

540
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Speaker 3: had a melt down. But I think we do have

541
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Speaker 3: to face the fact that I think we started this.

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Speaker 2: Mother thing with Megan Trainer. I don't think we did.

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Speaker 3: I think we called Meghan Trainer's mother more than and

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Speaker 3: before anyone else. And now she has a full song

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Speaker 3: called mother. And basically what I'm saying is we are

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Speaker 3: the We are the Chris Olson's who go unseen.

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Speaker 2: We are the Chris Olsen's who are not her friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are the Chris Olsen's who are saying mother, mother, mother,

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Speaker 3: not on TikTok, sort.

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Speaker 2: Of beyond TikTok, and there is a world beyond.

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Speaker 3: There is a world beyond TikTok and their lurk Matt

552
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Speaker 3: and Bowen who've been saying Meghan Trainer mother for a long.

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Speaker 2: Time on legacy media like podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Lost cultis is legacy media. And that's for the culture

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Speaker 3: number seventy eight lost legacy media. But whether we've been

556
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Speaker 3: saying it as a joker or not, we have been

557
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Speaker 3: saying it.

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Speaker 2: Lost cult racist is part of big many players. It's

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Speaker 2: part of iHeartRadio, is part of say that is part

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Speaker 2: of whyte Storbory. Though I know I've heard Shiv say,

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Speaker 2: well we've got we've got lost culture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Shiv is a huge reader. Shit is

563
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Speaker 3: a huge or she's a Katie.

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Speaker 2: Shit was kind of the one pulling the strings in

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Speaker 2: terms of the deal being struck. Yes to get lost

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Speaker 2: culture on Waste Star.

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Speaker 3: She was like, these two are a path into a

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Speaker 3: demographic we don't have.

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Speaker 2: And listen, we were at Disney when Carlson and Lemon

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Speaker 2: were out, and that makes us two of the foremost

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Speaker 2: journalists working right now.

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Speaker 3: Wait, let's pivot to talk about this. So there's succession

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Speaker 3: to discuss, and there's also the wild media media having

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Speaker 3: a moment.

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Speaker 2: Media is having a moment.

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Speaker 3: That's such a title of app Media is having a Moment,

577
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Speaker 3: because media had such a moment Monday. We're recording this

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Speaker 3: Tuesday morning at the Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Floors Media writ large.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this is our big media episode, lights

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Speaker 3: camera action. So yesterday Taker Carlson and Don Lemon out

582
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Speaker 3: at Fox News and CNN, respectively. Other things also went down,

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Speaker 3: but we're focusing on these two because it was just wild.

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00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: These like sort of controversial, polarizing, to say the least,

585
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: talking heads on different ends of the political spectrum both

586
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Speaker 3: got canned and neither of them saw it coming right,

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Speaker 3: and I think both of them sort of felt like protected,

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Speaker 3: because why wouldn't they have already been given the boot.

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Speaker 3: But both kind of messy girls in their own right,

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Speaker 3: and let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Because you're not too equate. Can

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Speaker 2: we just say not too equate? Obviously not to equate,

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Speaker 2: but for them to go. I never thought this could happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that means we're not safe, you and I we could

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Speaker 2: be back to this episode. After iHeart listens to what

596
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Speaker 2: we have to say about the sponsors, they go, you're out.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna be lemoned. Carlsoned out of iHeart, which

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Speaker 2: is our CNN, which is our Fox News. We thought

599
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Speaker 2: we were like, we're good, babe. No, no one's safe.

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Speaker 3: You are never safe. And if you're listening to this

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Speaker 3: right now, I know last time I said Katie, you're

602
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Speaker 3: a finalist. Here's what I'm saying to you today, Katie,

603
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Speaker 3: You're not safe. You might be on the topic luck,

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Speaker 3: we're messing around, Katie. But Katie, I'm just saying, wash

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Speaker 3: your back.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying the economy is not doing great. I'm saying

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Speaker 2: we don't have the job security. We think we do now,

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Speaker 2: we do not media personalities. They're hunting us. They are

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Speaker 2: hunting media personalities. Okay, and I'm really fearful and I'm

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Speaker 2: looking you wide eyed and til lo reata's how scared

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Speaker 2: I look? You look very scared and scary? Might I add?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Look, they're given everyone a pot. They're given Meghan Phelps

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Speaker 2: Roper a podcast these days? What to a podcast defending

615
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Speaker 2: JK Rowling? Can we just everyone wait? Huh? Everyone please?

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Speaker 2: So you know this big witch trust of JK rolling

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Speaker 2: podcast that's like popping off, that's Megan helps Roper, the

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Speaker 2: ad mean Phelps Roper. And she's coming at it from

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Speaker 2: the angle of I know what it's like to be

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Speaker 2: on either side, to like persecute and be persecuted, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know what it's like to be in

622
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Speaker 2: a cult for years and brainwashed and now you're only

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Speaker 2: sort of better because you're just starting the building blocks

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Speaker 2: of humanity. She is coming at it from an angle

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Speaker 2: of you need to be able to have reason to

626
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: measured conversations with bigots because otherwise they won't listen to you.

627
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Speaker 2: And ContraPoints did a second episode about JK Rolling within

628
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Speaker 2: like the last year or everyone should watch it. And

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Speaker 2: the reason she's revisiting this idea is because of the

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Speaker 2: witch trials of JK Rowling. But basically she's being like, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's an interesting point to make. It's a very attractive

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Speaker 2: point to make, to be like, should you actually be

633
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Speaker 2: able to like have a conversation with a person that

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Speaker 2: you disagree with because otherwise, you know, like what hope

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Speaker 2: do we have? But that is to like make Meghan Phelps,

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Speaker 2: Roper and jk Rolling the main characters of the story,

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Speaker 2: which they are not. The main characters are people who

638
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Speaker 2: are getting their rights taken away, and no one is

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Speaker 2: coming after the persecuted mr exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's like no one is trying to actually

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Speaker 3: kill jk Rowlling, right, or take her rights away or

642
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Speaker 3: take her money away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Being in a Twitter fight constantly because of the things

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Speaker 3: you post on a witch trial, it's you're putting yourself

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Speaker 3: out there and putting your views out there, and when

647
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: people like are angry about it or feel hurt by

648
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Speaker 3: it or offended by it or feel endangered by it,

649
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Speaker 3: they actually are allowed to react as strongly as they want.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 2: Actually, like really brought me back to like not to

652
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: like talk about this too much. But it's like, thank

653
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: God for ContraPoints because I'm just like, oh, I needed

654
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: to hear this, because for a while I was like,

655
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: I guess, like I should try to figure out a

656
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: way to like understand the way someone on the other

657
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: side thinks. M hmmm, and not to get like even

658
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: to tribal in my own like in the way I

659
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: describe myself like the other side. Lol. But I'm like,

660
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: but it's not about that like that. I'm sorry. They

661
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: are NPC correct, they are NPC.

662
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Speaker 5: Well.

663
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Speaker 3: The Meghan Phelps roper of it all always did interest

664
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Speaker 3: me because she was so she went so hard on

665
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: the paint for the Westboro Baptist charge. She was so

666
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: unmovable that for her to then like I think, that's

667
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: like the weird thing is she was like I guess

668
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 3: de radicalized online. Like I believe she even ended up

669
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Speaker 3: getting together with or marrying the person that up like,

670
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: which is getting in her DMS and like being like, hey,

671
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about this, you are incorrect

672
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: on the way that you feel, which.

673
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Is also like a weird little textural thing in it.

674
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, oh, the person, who do you radicalized

675
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: you y'all wanted to really marry, like fuck each other.

676
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also again centering her perspective, which is, yes,

677
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: you were able to be deradicalized online, but that's also

678
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: not necessarily what happened, because what happened was you did

679
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: media appearances on behalf of the Westboro Baptist Church and

680
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: then you got an overwhelmingly negative reaction, which had to

681
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: affect you initially to the point where then you saw

682
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: the DM and were like, let me engage in this.

683
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: And you also, I think, love the attention of going

684
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: back and forth. It's that annoying thing that some people

685
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: are where they're like, you know, contrarians and just want

686
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: to fight to fight. That was the energy and that

687
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: she had, like me and you on every episode of

688
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: this podcast, it's really just noise. It's just fighting fighting,

689
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: It's just two people fighting. It's just two gay guys fighting.

690
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: And the gay guys have such annoying voices and just

691
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: to hear them fight and squawk is so disgusting, and

692
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: they just want to hear themselves talk. True, these gay

693
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: guys just want to hear themselves talk. If everyone could

694
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: leave a five star review and say these gay guys

695
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: just want to hear themselves talk on the podcast app.

696
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: That would be amazing, amazing, These gay guys just want

697
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: to hear themselves talk hard. Leave that at a five

698
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: star review. Bomb the ratings bomb the rating with five

699
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: stars though, and that's called a bomb, and that's called

700
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: a bomb. But she's just again centering her own experience totally,

701
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: which is like I'm telling you it can happen. It's like,

702
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: yes for you, but that's also not the full picture totally,

703
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: and you wanted to fuck the guy, and.

704
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: It's also yeah, well not even does talk about that.

705
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: It's like this cannot be applicable to everybody because not

706
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: everyone's going to marry the person that do you radicalize?

707
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Right, That's it. And also I'm not saying Megan Phelps

708
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: Roper is wretched. I'm saying she was wretched. Now she's

709
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: like trying her best, but it's like, this is not

710
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: the way for everyone, And like to sympathize with jk Rowling,

711
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: who again also does not come from your position because

712
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: you were living in a relative state of like isolation.

713
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: Jk Rowling has had the entire world at her fingertips

714
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: and all the resources at her fingertips to educate herself,

715
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: refuses or digs in. It just shows her true like

716
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 3: inherent privilege and evil at this point. So again it's

717
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: completely different.

718
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: It's I don't really use this word too much, but

719
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: the fop it's pop and I never say that word.

720
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: The takeaway, the headline from this ContraPoints that just came

721
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: out is this person is evil. Yeah, it's an evil

722
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: person like this is wild. Yeah, And again I don't

723
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: really I don't say evil. I don't say evil too much.

724
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: Only when when we saw Kylo Red yesterday and the

725
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: rise of their existance, Bowen actually screamed the word evil,

726
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: and it was I just I'm really excited for Wicked.

727
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm just really excited for Wicked. If

728
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: yesterday Bowen and Yang screaming the word evil was a

729
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: glimpse at his performance in Wicked Part one, end two,

730
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna way to have to wait till Thanksgiving next

731
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: year for that one.

732
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Then you are in for a spectacular treat. Alphabet stood

733
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: no chance when if Fanny was.

734
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Speaker 3: In the room, I can't believe that you as someone

735
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: this is I guess acting right, so bang like I

736
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: think really spiritually kind of is Alphaba and like you

737
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: have the power of alpha ba and you know that

738
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: Alphaba's good. But you, as the actor playing Fanny, you

739
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: have to show all that you have to go in

740
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: and you have to say things like evil.

741
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: My biggest line, my moment is a tight single on me,

742
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: a tight close upon me, and I go al evil

743
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: and then that ends. That ends. You're good.

744
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: I get why you booked this.

745
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: You're so good, full of ship.

746
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm not.

747
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: You're so good. You know you can't do this.

748
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: I can do whatever I want. I'm good too, I know.

749
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: Can I audition?

750
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Yes? Are you ready?

751
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: Oh?

752
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: I have to drop it. And this is a really

753
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: hard part for me. It's not a natural fit. That's

754
00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: why I didn't.

755
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh football evil.

756
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: I love that you're influencing me. Oh, we haven't dropped

757
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: that yet. Oh the evil process on the call seat that.

758
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: Says Fanny looks to camera, says Alphabet. I will say

759
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: this is some bts and it's not revealing too much.

760
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: There has been moments where I've like, where Cynthia and I,

761
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: oh my god, this sounds so annoying, But then she's

762
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: your co star in the Yeah, it's not that weird.

763
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: She and I have like between takes, like I've been like,

764
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: this feels really bad and I'm really sorry my character

765
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: has had to be the cruel to her.

766
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, yeah, I thought you were talking about

767
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: your own Actually so bad you like one fifteenth the

768
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: size of the part of the street. Oh god, I'm

769
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: not as good as you.

770
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm not as good as you. And she's like, it's okay, Darling.

771
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: I wish I was nominated for an oscar like you, Tony.

772
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: And I was like it was a scene where like

773
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: you have to be cruel, cruel, and I'm like, this

774
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: feels really bad in like my bones. And she's like,

775
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: I know, Donning, it's fine, it's fine, don't worry. I'm

776
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: it's terrible buttock set. But she's she can like she's amazing.

777
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my gosh, what it must be like to

778
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: have those must be you.

779
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm bringing a crossboat a set.

780
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm not bringing a gun to set anymore because that

781
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a little extreme, but I am

782
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: bringing a crossboat a set to shoot down the drones

783
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: that y'all keep sending into the premises.

784
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: Stop sending drones into that artistic environment. Okay, please, there.

785
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: Were no drones in OZ. No, you're breaking the spell, dear,

786
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: there were no drones.

787
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: And ohs, there was one liar man behind the curtain

788
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: who lied to everyone. He said he was really OZ,

789
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: he was just a man. And more on that later

790
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: next year.

791
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: Do we feel we covered the Tucker Carlson and Don

792
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: Lemon thing? Yeah? Do we care? So basically, here's the deal.

793
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 3: Tuger Carlson's awful and finally even Fox News couldn't stand

794
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: them anymore and kicked them the fuck out. And it's

795
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: just like, I guess ultimately they lost money or whatever.

796
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: They couldn't stand that anymore.

797
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: But the dominion lawsuit, it's like, oh, this man law

798
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: has lied and lied in line, we're moving away from that.

799
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 2: It's it's both of these networks like being like, oh,

800
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: let's change course, let's not be crazy crazy, crazy crazy

801
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: h which is for it to be beyond the pale.

802
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: For Fox News is like lol yeah, and for CNN

803
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: it's like he's chaotic. Don Lemon, Well, Don Lemon is like,

804
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: unfortunately he represented this like left leaning voice that was

805
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: like super opinionated, and I think now CNN's whole thing

806
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: is like, m we don't want either side to be overrepresented,

807
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: and so we're just gonna find Now, we're gonna find

808
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: personalities who can moderate discussions between both sides, which I

809
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: think is kind of like an such an iroll.

810
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you read the article, it's like he

811
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: had said like wild things about women, like you know whatever,

812
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: like saying like Nikki Haley was quote pastor prime or whatever.

813
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: But that was like the tip of the iceberg. It's

814
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: like if you really reading the lines, like Don Lemon

815
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: got fired for doing gay ship behind the scenes, like.

816
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: For doing like woman hating gage shit like mean gay shit.

817
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: That's what That's what we were saying yesterday. It was

818
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: mean gay shit because he was like literally sabotaging these

819
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: women's careers, allegedly allegedly at CNN and MOUNT and I

820
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: were like, that's such mean gay like that it gives

821
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: mean gay outdated like data lounge mean gay shit, like

822
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: oh like boomer ass mean gay shit, and not to

823
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: this is not to like you know, be ageist, but

824
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: it's like there is a like I thought it was

825
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: a generational kind of gay man who was like, oh

826
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: you think that about women, Oh okay, like it's giving that.

827
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, it's like it's kind of wild though,

828
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: like a few years ago, these people that were on air,

829
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: they're completely gone, like Cuomo, he's out now, Don Lemon

830
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: and Tucker Carlson.

831
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: Like it's a witch hunt. It's a witch hunt. I'm

832
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: telling you.

833
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: Media personalities are under attack. Media figures are not safe.

834
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: If you want a media figure, Katie listening to this,

835
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: turn around and look behind you. Make sure this no

836
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: one with a knife. Just stick in your back, Katie.

837
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: You're gorgeous back.

838
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: You're gorgeous back. And this is quickly another thing that

839
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: Countra Points is talking about, like she like she talks

840
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: about like Anita Bryant in the beginning speaking for Damn.

841
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: She's like, and it's again, I hate that I'm even

842
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: bringing this up, but it is this other it's this

843
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: other way of like representing this idea that like cancel

844
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: culture is like this thing that like has always existed.

845
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: It's like Anita Bryant was being variantly homophobic. Everyone was like,

846
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: your career is over, babe. Yeah, Like everyone like and

847
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: especially Game and obviously around the country were like, boycott

848
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: the fucking Orange juice. Yeah, we're not watching your stupid

849
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: little movies anymore. Like you're done in this business. And

850
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: it's like burn a woman for like being a witch

851
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: back whatever this is and like connecting different dots. But

852
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, this is a human condition, is that

853
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: we like kill each other. That's it.

854
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: Like that was really powerful when you said that this

855
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: is the human edition that we kill each other. That's

856
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: real Coachure number fifty. This is the human edition that

857
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: we kill each other. You're correct though in that like this,

858
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: people have always been if they've done something incorrect, they've

859
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: always had consequences for it. It's just that now there's

860
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: so many people that we know about, and there's the

861
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: information spread is so immediate and so wide, and like

862
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's so easy to find out about these

863
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: things that we just hear it so much that we're

864
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: saturated with this idea that people being fucked up because

865
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: there's a lot of fun that people in the world

866
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: get fired or tossed or you know, forgotten about or

867
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: deleted from the Internet. How do you feel about the

868
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: loss of the bluehack? So we have pour one out

869
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: for the blue chack.

870
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Growing out for the blue checks everybody. We have our

871
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: ice coffee.

872
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: We have ice coffee. I'm not going to pour them

873
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 3: out on the resort.

874
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: But but no, but and it's just you know, in spirit,

875
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: we're pouring one out for the war.

876
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Hope everyone feels good out there, and say fun the internet.

877
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: Say be careful, it's tough. It's a lot of news

878
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: outlets are ditching Twitter, which you know, for an election

879
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: before a general election is tough, a tough one. I

880
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: think the future is looking like it might be a

881
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: rocky road. It might be a rocky road. And this

882
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: is a really political and Desanti's country of all places.

883
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 3: I can't even speak about the demon raw death Santa Death.

884
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: Santa is traveling the world right now for no good reason.

885
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: He's on the campaign Governor's doing international trips just to pivot, thinks, So, honey.

886
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: Pivot some more happy news. You mentioned you listen to

887
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 3: a couple of songs from Miss Clarkson. She's released some singles.

888
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: And can I point out something? Yeah, In the song me,

889
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: she literally sings an Adora Delano rusical melody and line

890
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: what is it well door goes when you love me?

891
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: What does Kelly singing that? Where got me? But I

892
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: think she she goes when.

893
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: She does a whole fucking run, she's she's giving the vocals,

894
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: and you notice her gospel vocals on it, like very

895
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: must say like that, like that big vibrato gospel influence

896
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: vocals before the choir even comes that we're talking about

897
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: me now, which is.

898
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: The I don't need somebody me?

899
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: That is she's giving vocals for sure on both tracks,

900
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: but that I just noticed that she's kind of like

901
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: leaning into her her gospel vocal influence. And on Mine

902
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: that's more of just like a what'd you call that mine?

903
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't take an alternative pop song. It's like it

904
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: changes tempos at the bridge, which was really yeah, I

905
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: love that. I think my favorite out of the two

906
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 3: is mine. I just think it's really obviously her voice.

907
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: And you know what I love about the Kelly Clarkson

908
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: songs that have just been released. Her vocals are in

909
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: front of the production in a way that you do

910
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: not hear like it doesn't sound like and I'm not

911
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: dragging anyone, but it doesn't sound like eight different voices

912
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: all being heard underwater like a lot of the pop

913
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: girls now is just like we're into the vocal layering

914
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: and production like being a major, Like you know, it's

915
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 3: like a landscape or is this is like the vocal Yeah,

916
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: and then very spare instrumentation behind it, like there's a

917
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: drum kit, which I love, like you know, there's a

918
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: bass that like sounds great, but like it's really about

919
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: her voice and the lyrics, which is I think the

920
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: direction we've wanted.

921
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Even her dialed dialed in that direction from the last

922
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Meaning of Life certainly or piece it was with a

923
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: lot of production. Yeah, and Life was like I'm obviously

924
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: you're obviously the bigger well.

925
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 3: Meaning of Life was like definitely more a vocal event,

926
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 3: and it was like genre wise, stuff that she wanted

927
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: to do more because it was like soul full rock pop,

928
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: which is sort of like what she's always wanted to do.

929
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: I think, like she said, it was more of a

930
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: throwback to what she sang on American Out of the Show,

931
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: where she was like, you know, I used to sing

932
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: Aretha Franklin like most of the time, and like there

933
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: was R and B infused pop rocks that was had soul.

934
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: That's kind of what her thing is. And now I

935
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: think what we're seeing is I feel like either she's

936
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: trusted to or not expected to do the pop thing,

937
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: or she's just trusted to.

938
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: Do what she wants to do.

939
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: And so now we're getting more vocal driven music from her,

940
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: which is good, and it's not like.

941
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: My life would suck now You, which is.

942
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: Really wasted on a voice like hers, which has so

943
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: much texture and versatility that for her to sing these

944
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: like pop songs with you know, only six different notes

945
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: in them, which are actually harder to sing live and

946
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: not as fun to hear live. And of course we

947
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: love the anthems, we love since You've been gone, We

948
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: love all the old Kelly bobs, but like.

949
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: Her voice is just better than that. Yes, And I

950
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: think now an audience, the audience knows this is like

951
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: her first batch of original music since like Kelly Yoki

952
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: really became a thing. Yeah, And like I think now

953
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: people understand her to be like, oh, she's a vote.

954
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: She can of course she can sing she want American Nidol,

955
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: but like she can sing any any version genre of

956
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: song by any artist. So for her to choose this

957
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: as her own thing is meaningful and important, and I

958
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: think a message is being sent to us, yes, as

959
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: a general public, to be like, oh, okay, this is

960
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: an interesting direction for her to go, and it really

961
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: is interesting. Well we were, we were, by the way,

962
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Kelly. It was your birthday on the Monday Day.

963
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: People have been saying for years like, oh, why doesn't

964
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: she do like an Adele thing? Why doesn't she do

965
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: like an Adele thing? And it's like Adele can do

966
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: an Adele thing because she started as doing an adel

967
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: thing and people want her to do that. Like it's

968
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: taken Kelly a long time to be able to do

969
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: this because she was still like servicing like the pop machine,

970
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: like this is my heartbeat song and it's like songs

971
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: that you don't even remember. Whereas like now now that

972
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: she's not expected to be on pop radio, I don't

973
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: think which is you know, a problem in and of

974
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: itself that has to do with agism and all sorts

975
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: of bullshit. Like it's sort of nice at least for

976
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: fans of hers that actually like to listen to, you know,

977
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: her sing and like things that are meaningful to her,

978
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: that she's able to do this now and we're gonna

979
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: go see.

980
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Her in Vegas, very very excited. That's going to be

981
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: the gag do I did get intel. I was gonna say,

982
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: do you want to share this intell you? Because the

983
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: first thing this morning, Matt and I get up to

984
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: go get coffee. Matt gasps, okay, so Gasp says I

985
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: have intel from this, So I have.

986
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: I had a plant at the Kelly Clarkson show at

987
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: the Blasco Theater early in the week, and she did

988
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: the whole album front to back. And I think she's

989
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: not doing music videos for the album. I think she's

990
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: like entirely doing her own thing for it. What she

991
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: wanted to do was she wanted to sing the album

992
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: front to back at the Blasco Theater and it was

993
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: filmed and I guess it will be released.

994
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: At some point.

995
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: But this is the intel that I got for what

996
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: happened this person said, this person will remain nameless, that

997
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: they know who they are.

998
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: They're a legend. OMG.

999
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: I think you will love the new album. It was

1000
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: truly spectacular. She performed the entire thing a lot more

1001
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: upbeat than I expected. I think my fave was Rock Hudson.

1002
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: This is a song called right. I'm obsessed that she

1003
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: says something like piece by piece, I became my own

1004
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: here and I love when artists are self referential like that.

1005
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: Another highlight was def Lighthouse.

1006
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: It's a good title.

1007
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: I would say that this was the most painful lyrically.

1008
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: I deaf cried during that one. It's one of her

1009
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: more emotionally charged albums. I would say. Then there's a

1010
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: song called Red Flag Collector love it. She prefaced it

1011
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: by saying, Mama was angry. Y'all, yep, skip this part.

1012
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 3: She had to restart twice because she got so emotional.

1013
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,479
Speaker 3: It was another heartbreaker for sure about wanting to skip

1014
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 3: the hard part after a breakup. Title track she said

1015
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: was her Jeff Buckley moment. That means, so I think,

1016
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: I think it's more like acoustic. Oh I see, I see,

1017
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: I yes, magic it's called I also thought it was sweet.

1018
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: She prefaced that by saying the song was about like

1019
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: if I died tomorrow, at least I experienced magic. Then

1020
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 3: Sheila E features on a song. She came out and

1021
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: they did a couple songs. Sheila SHELA that's major and

1022
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 3: then you know, he's obviously said that her voice sounded amazing.

1023
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: But the magic part really got me because I remember.

1024
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: Thinking that we're at Disney, of all places, I know to.

1025
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: Hear that there was a song called Magic at Disney,

1026
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: but like the concept of like because I did think

1027
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: that a couple of times. I was like, oh, well,

1028
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: you know what, if it's over, at least I got

1029
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: that moment of like, it's feeling really good. And I

1030
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 3: guess that's what the whole concept of chemistry is, right.

1031
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you get to experience what it's

1032
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: like to be really wrapped up in something and someone,

1033
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: and it feels like an invincible feeling. And then even

1034
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: though it's gone, like at least you got to experience it.

1035
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and skipping the hard part, you know, skip this

1036
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: part feels very hashtag relatable, hashtag relatable, and people are

1037
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: forgetting hashtag relatable.

1038
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: You think that relatability culture is going to come back

1039
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: in a major way.

1040
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 2: I think it's never left.

1041
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: I think we're always in it. I think we're always

1042
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: we always appreciate relatable. Who is the most relatable queen?

1043
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe Kelly, Maybe she is. Maybe it's Kelly and

1044
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: it's not recency by it, it's just it's Kelly. Chila,

1045
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: that's very exciting. Sheila legend Let percussion nist the percussion.

1046
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: We're actually so excited to announce that the percussion nist.

1047
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: The award goes to Congratulations.

1048
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: Congratulations you are a finalist and a winner at the

1049
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: same time. Did you see that the readers are sort

1050
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: of discussing that there's a four quadrants Now it's sort

1051
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: of become the huff of puff hogwarts houses.

1052
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: Damn it so now it's unfortunately, well we can take

1053
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: it back.

1054
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 5: No, no, no.

1055
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 3: People are identifying in one of four ways a katie katie,

1056
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: a reader, a finalist, or a publicist, and it was

1057
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: so fascinating. I saw some conversation online about how people

1058
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: felt they fell into different boxes and it was very equal. Really, yes,

1059
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: I here's what I think the difference is. A Katie

1060
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: is that person who listens and they're feeling like very

1061
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: comfortable and at home in it, and they're saying yes, yes, yes,

1062
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: back to the podcast when we speak yes. I think

1063
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: a reader is someone who is diligent and consuming.

1064
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: This is huge, This is so major that you're actually

1065
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: the cliniant. Please.

1066
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: And I think a reader is diligent and consuming and

1067
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: is obtaining information and they are the ones who go

1068
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 3: out and they're doing it like to fill out the

1069
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: cultural self. Yes, the publicist is I think someone who

1070
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: takes information from this and takes things from this and

1071
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: they go out and spread gospel.

1072
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: That's interesting publicizing. Does it also work the other way

1073
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: where I feel like I learn so much from publicists.

1074
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying the publicists in the lost cultural systems, where

1075
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: so many publicists reach out to me and they go,

1076
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: here's some information for you that I think you might enjoy,

1077
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: and I go, ah, I would have never known. Thank you. Yes,

1078
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: And I appreciate them so much equally as the others.

1079
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: But there's a certain thing that publicists do and that

1080
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: really I appreciate.

1081
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: That makes them different from a Katie or read exactly.

1082
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 3: And finally, a finalist is I think someone who comes

1083
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: late and actualized to the podcast and they feel as

1084
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: though this is something they can add to their media

1085
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: diet that gives them another weapon and they're already completed arsenal.

1086
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: I think the finalists an elder that that say that

1087
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: that's just how I feel about it, but maybe you

1088
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: can interpret it differently.

1089
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think that's a great clearly you've

1090
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: thought about this.

1091
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And well, I mean I was just so enthralled

1092
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 3: by the readers sort of going about their sort of identity.

1093
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: They were finding their identity in an interesting way. And

1094
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: I loved watching it and I love to see it.

1095
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: And one thing that's coming back, I love to see it.

1096
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: I love to see it. Now, we do want to

1097
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: address something we wanted to get on this sooner. There

1098
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: seems to be a lot of confusion about the quote

1099
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: unquote ticketing systems for the Culture Awards this summer Jane seventeenth,

1100
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: Damn Marsh Park at Lincoln Center. We are so sorry

1101
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: that people ended up waiting hours and hours on a queue.

1102
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: The Q system is just to apparently view the website. Yeah,

1103
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: that was it.

1104
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: I mean, so basically what you need to know is

1105
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: that this is a free event and you just have

1106
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: to show up at it.

1107
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: You just have to show up at it. There is

1108
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: on Monday, June twelfth, the opportunity to claim tickets on

1109
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: the website. So that is something that if you go

1110
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: back to the Lincoln Center Summer for the City website

1111
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: and go to the event listing, that is maybe an

1112
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: opportunity to claim tickets. But we have on good authority

1113
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: that most people who came and waited stand by last

1114
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 2: year got in. Yeah, so come a little bit early

1115
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: if you want. A lot of people described positive experiences

1116
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: meeting other readers, publicists, finalists, and that was, you know,

1117
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: such a fun night. So, oh my god, if you

1118
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: can make it, we would love to have you there.

1119
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: An announcement's coming soon about nominees and presenter special guests.

1120
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: But sorry that it's a little bit more confusing than

1121
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: it needs to be. But that's only because it's actually

1122
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: way easier than it needs to be ultimately, which is

1123
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: really you just show up to show or on June twelfth,

1124
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: you can procure some sort of ticket.

1125
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: Yes, and I don't think so, honey. People going, oh,

1126
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: boy Genius is not I mean you paid money for that,

1127
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: and you might see him again. Yeah, you won't see

1128
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: us again.

1129
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 3: Ever. All I'm saying is I see boy Genius pop

1130
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: up all the time. Okay, boy Genius is going to

1131
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 3: keep performing. Last Coulture is just may never perform again.

1132
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 4: That's true.

1133
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: We may never perform media again. Personalities are under attack,

1134
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: including us. Are we in a feud with boy Genius?

1135
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: Now we'll lose, We'll lose.

1136
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: We can't be the biggest MOONA stands in the world

1137
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: and then also be in a feud with boor Genius.

1138
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: Did I get into like that? I went to Puticella

1139
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: and everything. Did I get into that?

1140
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: But you get into it more.

1141
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying, like one of the great moments

1142
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: was watching Muna just absolutely destroy and then boy Genius.

1143
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: All came out.

1144
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: Well, Phoebe came out obviously first during Soilk Chiffon, which

1145
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 3: yesterday Bowen Yang was in his poncho and I said.

1146
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Silk Chiffon, I didn't hear that. Oh

1147
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: that's how.

1148
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: You were, but you were in your poncho. And I said, oh,

1149
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 3: maybe it was Dave and I said.

1150
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Shot it fun.

1151
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: And it was just a little joke we were doing

1152
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: about how our ponchos and it doesn't know what we're

1153
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: made of. Soa fun But anyway, Peepe came out, and

1154
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: then all the boy Joeys came out and it was

1155
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: just like watching the six of them altogether. It was power,

1156
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: so fun, It was powerful, powerful, croud of everyone, so

1157
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: so overjoyed, seriously so overjoyed.

1158
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: I said, powerful, letting energy, powerful, Bye.

1159
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: Queer energy, say it, say you the word queer queer

1160
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: is here. We just said, a roller coach number ninety

1161
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: eight queer is here. Should we move on to I

1162
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: don't think so, honey, did you want to have Do

1163
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 3: you want to say anything about succession?

1164
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: I need to catch up. I do want to say,

1165
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, everyone better start watching Missus Davis on.

1166
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get.

1167
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: Into it because now you've seen it too. I've only

1168
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: seen the first episodes because I went to the premiere.

1169
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: I'm on, I'm an episode three. I still have to

1170
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: finish up. This week's the premiere batch of episodes. This

1171
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: is right up my ouse. It's so excellent. I knew

1172
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: you'd like it, these excellent performances across the board. Betty Gilpin,

1173
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: crown it, crown it.

1174
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 3: I said to her, I was like, you know, yet again,

1175
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: you find a way to make every choice brand new.

1176
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: She's so just idiosyncratic, but also it's still it is

1177
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 3: that thing of like character, like in a way where

1178
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: it's always interesting and specific and like she has found

1179
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 3: yet another project that is interesting and specific and that

1180
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: she fits into perfectly. And we are lucky to have

1181
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: a show this cool and fun and different that's led

1182
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: by this cool and fun and different of a performance

1183
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: and it's it's kind of has to be seen to

1184
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: be believed. It's it's it's one of those things I

1185
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: can't explain super easily. But that's like the Damon lindelof

1186
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: of it all, which if you were a Damon Lindelov fan,

1187
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: this is capital F capital y for you. Yeah, and

1188
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: also you'll be frilled to know I mentioned this on

1189
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 3: the podcast, that it's the funniest he's been because he

1190
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: is a funny person.

1191
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: He's a funny person. And credit to Tara Hernandez, who

1192
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: was y co co creator on the show, Yes he

1193
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: I think he said that, like, I'm not the funny one.

1194
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: That's her. I'm the weird one. But I feel like

1195
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: his weirdness and his like grandiosity in terms of his

1196
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: storytelling is a perfect match for this kind of humor.

1197
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: That it's like weird, but not like weird in like

1198
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: the I don't know, and it's not.

1199
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: Like esoteric weird. It's like quirky weird this time it's like,

1200
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But even quirky feels like

1201
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: kirky is like a slur.

1202
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't like quirky.

1203
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: It's like rule culture number nine, quirky is a slur.

1204
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: We have to get rid of quirky. And I literally

1205
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: I hate that.

1206
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: I even know, no, no, no, but it's because that

1207
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: word has been burrowed into words. Psyche's yeah, and it's

1208
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: like we need to like let it go. I hate quirky.

1209
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: I hate quirky. No one's quirky. No one is.

1210
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: Quirky died in like the early two thousands with and

1211
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 3: this is not a per jar if I'm not shouting

1212
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 3: on this movie, but Quirky died with like five hundred

1213
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: days of Summer like we did Quirky. We moved on

1214
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like and I love

1215
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: five hundred days of Summer, but I feel like in

1216
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: that it's like it died with the matic pixure dream girl,

1217
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like quirky is I just

1218
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 3: I hate quirky.

1219
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't like TWEE.

1220
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: Can I say?

1221
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: I think me and you and Sudy are all on that.

1222
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh we we were so anti TWEE. I know, I know,

1223
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: but oh my god, Missus Davis is excellent. Oh my god,

1224
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: before you move on, I don't think Sophny, we all

1225
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: need to be listening to flow their EP has been

1226
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: out for like about a year at this point, but

1227
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: I think they've done live shows recently and specifically in

1228
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: New York though, so again, this is a very like

1229
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: solipsistic like, oh, if it happened to New York, then

1230
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: it actually happened. But at least in New York. I

1231
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: feel like and because I've been out this week, I'm

1232
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: off of work and like I'm like being social again.

1233
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: Like everyone's like, have you been listening to Flow? And

1234
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm like yes, and excellent, excellent, tight harmonies, tight girl group, vibes,

1235
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: Y two k rowback, love it.

1236
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is giving like Destiny's Child back in

1237
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: the day. Like it's actually, I think, directly inspired by that.

1238
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: It's directly inspired by like Destiny's Child three LWTLC, which

1239
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: is fun WV. It's like that me and Nick Laughlin

1240
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: were kind of like, oh, it should be called Flo,

1241
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: but if it is pronounced Flow in that tradition of

1242
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: like three letters or whatever, and you say each of

1243
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: them individually, but it's Flow, okay. And it's not even

1244
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: like their initials or anything. It's just Flow. But I

1245
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: love it and excellent.

1246
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: There's some like very very little mixed vocal quality in

1247
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: there too. So if you're looking for a girl group,

1248
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: uh huh, you found it.

1249
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: You found it. And it was the Bowen who pointed

1250
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: you no, no, no, it was it was They've been around.

1251
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: But I did write them off as like unfortunately, I

1252
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: did write them off as like algorithm artists. I was like, Okay,

1253
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: this is this is like that happens all the time.

1254
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: It happens all the time, and look, we love them.

1255
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: But I was like, okay, like I'm gonna add this

1256
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: to my library. I'm gonna let's sit and then I'm

1257
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: gonna see you know how sometimes you need something to

1258
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: cook in the library for a little bit before it

1259
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: like really works its way into like your rotation. Yeah,

1260
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: and it's really worked its way.

1261
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: And there's one song that I really like that's come out,

1262
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: which is like, it's like pretty a generic pop song.

1263
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard it.

1264
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: It's called Lost the Breakup by Mazy Peters. It's like

1265
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: Carlie ray Jepson, British. It's just a cute little song

1266
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: with a very nice little bridge and she's like I

1267
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: think a couple people have compared the writing to like

1268
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: Taylor so it's sort of like if Taylor Swift like

1269
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: being like Taylor Swift meet like a British version of

1270
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: Carlie ray Jepson. That's kind of what her voice sounds like.

1271
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: But she's got a cute little song i'll called Lost

1272
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: the Breakup, and I've been listening to it a lot.

1273
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: I think it's time for I don't think so, honey,

1274
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: which is sort of the thing that we uh do

1275
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: every episode.

1276
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: I'd say, bo.

1277
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: All right, so now I'm trying. I've just had such

1278
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 3: a wonderful few days that and also, by the way,

1279
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 3: let me just mention and I can't believe it mention

1280
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: this because we got directly into the culture.

1281
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: But my sister got married.

1282
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: This week and Chelsea Rogers is now Chelsea Frasier Chelsea.

1283
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 3: And it was such a lovely day and my sister

1284
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: was the chillest, coolest, most gorgeous bride ever. She looked amazing.

1285
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: Everyone was so happy. Peter, her husband, was so emotional

1286
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 3: throughout the ceremony. And I'm just so happy I got

1287
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: to officiate the wedding. It was the first time I'd

1288
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: ever done that, and I said in my speech, like

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01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: what I was most impressed about by them, and like

1290
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: what I loved about them so much is the peace

1291
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: that they give each other. They they just truly live

1292
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: such a peaceful, like loving, supportive life, and I think

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01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: that that is something that in a partnership, like is

1294
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: a value that I think often gets overlooked, is does

1295
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: the person make you feel calm and make you feel

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: at peace and make And I've just there's such an

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 3: emblem of that for me, and so I I tried

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: to infuse that in my speech a little bit and

1299
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: just that they're motivated by time spent together, and I said,

1300
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just proud of them and happy for

1301
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 3: them that they found someone that they can start now

1302
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 3: and it's like the beginning of a lifetime of more time.

1303
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: Like I just think that that's such a great, beautiful thing.

1304
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to celebrate my sister, my little sister,

1305
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: who got married, my one sister, and we had a

1306
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: beautiful wedding in Saint Pete, Florida, friends and family dancing

1307
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 3: the night away. And of course you know the DJ

1308
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: got it crunk when wrong, because you know, like it's

1309
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: that thing of like at weddings that you go to

1310
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: for people our age sort of the high school music

1311
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: comes back when I tell you that, like Ying Ying Twins,

1312
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: Little John was playing at this wedding and I look

1313
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: over and I just see like my Aunt Maureen and

1314
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: Aunt Patty, and it's just like.

1315
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: Wow, to the windows to the wall.

1316
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: You listen to this music and you're like, this really

1317
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 3: was everywhere, and if you were not comfortable with it,

1318
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: it didn't matter.

1319
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 2: It didn't matter if you hate it. If you had

1320
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry to bring this back up. If you

1321
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: have meceophonia, and the whisper song came.

1322
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: On rip Rip, that's actually really co uber eighty eight

1323
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 3: if you have mistaphonia, And then whisper song came on rip,

1324
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: that's beautiful.

1325
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: And you failed to mention on the pod and you

1326
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 2: feel you kind of buried this. What did I lead?

1327
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: You were like, oh, Chelsea, was the chill spread. I

1328
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: was like, I believe it. And then you tell me

1329
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: last night dinner her plumbing went out three days before

1330
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: the wedding and she had to get well water to

1331
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: like clean herself, and she did not let that affect

1332
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: the mood at us. She was like, yeah, yeah, I

1333
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: mean the water went out, Like.

1334
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she I could tell she was stressed, but

1335
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: she was basically like, yeah, the water went out in

1336
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 3: like her apartment complex. Oh my goes out and gets

1337
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: water from like somewhere, brings it into the bathroom so

1338
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: she can literally flush a toilet. And then a frog

1339
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: jumped out of the no of the bucket, like because

1340
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: the frog had been in the water that she got,

1341
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: and she was literally like it was giving Amelia Badilia.

1342
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: It was giving act plates spinning that vibe. But and

1343
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 3: imagine getting married forty eight hours later. Just imagine she's

1344
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: probably one of the first people in history who had

1345
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: a frog fucking frogged about her toilet.

1346
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: It was on days before they got married. It was

1347
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: just unreal.

1348
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: And Katie's I mean, that is a true testament to

1349
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: how chill this bride was a Chelsea Fraser. Say it loud,

1350
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: say it proud. It's so weird that she has a

1351
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: different last name. You know, I almost didn't assume that

1352
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: she would take it Chelsea Fraser. I love Chelsea Fraser's great.

1353
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of an even trade with Chelsea Rodgers.

1354
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: Chelsea Fraser.

1355
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: You kind of make the same mouth sounds like, the

1356
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: oral posture is the same Fraser Rogers, Well, she married

1357
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: Brendan Fraser. Oh that's so fun. Yeah, it's so fun.

1358
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: We love having him in the family. He doesn't.

1359
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: He doesn't love my take on the whale. But that's

1360
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: just one of the things family will have to get over. Family,

1361
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 3: you know, Like, I'm so happy to have my brother

1362
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: in law Brendan Fraser around. Now, well, it's I don't

1363
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: think so many times this is I don't think.

1364
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: So, honey.

1365
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 3: The sixty second segment where Bowen Yang and met Rogers,

1366
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: that's us. Actually, if you were confused, we'd take sixty

1367
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: seconds to rail against something in culture that needs a railing, okay,

1368
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 3: sort of like us high fived.

1369
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: I actually would love that soon love that, Well, you

1370
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: have some time. How much longer you have time off

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: depends on if the strike. Yes, there might be a

1372
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: strike and then bon Yang can get railed all the

1373
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: do dot day. I love that. I would love to

1374
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: get railed for labor solidarity.

1375
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: By the way, I would like to say in a

1376
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: real way, you know, we voted yes on that strike offisation.

1377
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 3: We are in big, big support of the WGA. We're

1378
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: actually both members and we will be hitting the streets

1379
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: to picket post taste, and we hope that everything works

1380
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: out for the best, but we are ready the.

1381
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: Two point five percent of people who voted knowing the guild,

1382
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: I go, Okay, yeah, what happened there? I don't know.

1383
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they must have the reasons. Maybe it was

1384
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: a slip of the finger on the website.

1385
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 4: No.

1386
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: I think some people are like, some people are like, no,

1387
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: we can't do that. Yeah, Phil, they have good reasons

1388
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: for it, which I let's kock get into it.

1389
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe those are like literally all of the

1390
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: studio execs who like happened to be in the guild,

1391
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: in the guilds and also so are well represented by AMPTP.

1392
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: I'll say this. There was one tweet and take out

1393
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: with a grant of swell. But there was one from

1394
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: a particular show where apparently a lot of writers on

1395
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: this one particular very popular comedy show voted no. And

1396
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: I'll let the readers and the katies and the publishers

1397
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: in the finals it was cheers. I'll let them all

1398
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 3: do their own digging on that. But I thought it

1399
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 3: was interesting and I didn't dive deep enough to like

1400
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: really understand what was happening, But it seemed like there's

1401
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: one comedy show out there that's super popular critically and like,

1402
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, commercially where more than one person voted no HM.

1403
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: Anyway, before we move on speaking of writers, I need

1404
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: to read this piece on Vulture about the Who Jackie

1405
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: of it all. I didn't realize that Who Jackie was

1406
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: like such a prolific urban legend at this point in

1407
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: terms of comedy writing where there's apparently a story of

1408
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: So this is back in the days of literally asking

1409
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: who Jackie. So Roseanne back in the day, like peak Roseanne, right,

1410
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: Roseanne Barr would bring and like the writer's room would

1411
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: be like thirty people she would just bring in, like

1412
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: random ass people she saw at the club, and like

1413
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: they'd be hired for like ten episodes and then they'd

1414
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: be like fall away as soon as they came and

1415
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: like people would be like, oh wait, that person worked

1416
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: for us. So the norm McDonald was describing this, this

1417
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: is like the origin of the legend. There's this one

1418
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: writer who's who gets brought in is like this like

1419
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: some comic from some club that Roseanne must have seen

1420
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: doesn't say a peep for two years, two full seasons.

1421
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: Is in the writer's room doesn't pitch, doesn't really doesn't

1422
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: say anything right, and this this will sound familiar in

1423
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: a second. And then one day they're like trying to

1424
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: come up with like, you know, story ideas for the episodes.

1425
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: And then one day this writer finally like says something

1426
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: and goes, what about an episode where like John Gimman's

1427
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: character comes home and he sees Roseanne. He catches Roseanne

1428
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: watching her big fat ass in the sink, washing her

1429
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: big And they've literally done like a thirty Rock episode

1430
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: about this, like hasn't like having we heard like yeah,

1431
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: she's she's washing her ass in the sink, like it

1432
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: comes from this story. And then they're like, oh, that's

1433
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. I don't think we can show that.

1434
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: Then this writer goes, well, it's not Roseanne. You find

1435
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: out it's her twin sister. And then they're like, oh, well,

1436
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: Roseanne already has a sister, you know, you know, we

1437
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: already have Jackie. And then the writer goes, who, Jackie

1438
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: has been in there for two years. Every character.

1439
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 5: Jackie.

1440
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: I love Who. But like I've heard some version of

1441
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: like it does sound familiar, like it's a very like

1442
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: it's like a comedy inside joke thing of like comedy writer,

1443
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: let's say inside joke thing of like oh Jackie, like

1444
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: you know the man comes home and catches the wife

1445
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: washing her big fat ass in the thing. Yeah, like

1446
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: that I think has like really like stayed stayed around

1447
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: for decades and I'm like that's where it's from. And

1448
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's like there's this whole like journalistic

1449
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: like oral history or whatever on Vulture about like because

1450
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: everyone claims to have been in that room and like

1451
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: again like there were Jackie who jack there? But there again,

1452
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 2: there were like thirty people in that room at least,

1453
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: and like but like over the years, like this story

1454
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 2: has like warped. Were like hundreds and hundreds and hundred

1455
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: of people have been like I was there when who

1456
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: Jackie happened? But it's like, no, you weren't. Well is

1457
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: that interesting? I have to say for that writer who

1458
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 2: said who did say? Who Jackie? What he needs to

1459
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: be is fairly paid on residual thank you. I don't

1460
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: know where.

1461
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 3: I don't know where Roseanna is getting played, but that person,

1462
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: it's beside the why that person needs to be who

1463
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 3: jack You? Writer needs to be more fairly paid on residuals.

1464
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: Did I ever tell you about years ago? I knew

1465
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 3: someone who wrote on Joan Cusack sitcom in the nineties.

1466
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1467
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: And apparently one day she came into the writer's room

1468
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 3: and was like really frazzled and like not happy with

1469
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 3: what the writers were doing. And they were like why

1470
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 3: and she said, there's just too much conflict. Oh, and

1471
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: they said huh. She said, yeah, there's too much conflict.

1472
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: Can I just come in and jump on the bed?

1473
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 3: And they're like, Joan, that's not really how like episodic

1474
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,879
Speaker 3: television sitcom comedy works, Like there needs to be conflict

1475
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: in the episode because that's actually where the comedy comes

1476
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 3: from and that's how storytelling works.

1477
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: She's like, well, I don't know. I just want to

1478
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: jump on the bed.

1479
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: That's the thing is like, when you build the show

1480
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 3: around an actor, sometimes they have actor brain and they

1481
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 3: want to come in and jump on their bed. And

1482
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: my other favorite thing, a good friend of ours was

1483
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: writing on a show with two actors and she asked

1484
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 3: the vibe of another writer.

1485
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: She's like, what do they like? What do they do?

1486
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: And the writer says to them, you know, this really

1487
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: is just an excuse for them to make their noises.

1488
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: I'll tell you off air listen, an actor's brain can

1489
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: be so beautiful and so complex, and I will watch

1490
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: any after interview, actor, round table, whatever. Sometimes an acter

1491
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: brain is so silly, so small and not not a

1492
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: dig at John Cusack obvious. No, she's just brains. Oh

1493
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: my god. Have we ever talked about kristin the Christian

1494
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: shennow with sitcom on NBC? That was Oh gosdy though?

1495
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: Was she on that? Was joonk music on that?

1496
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 5: No, she was not on that.

1497
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like I I miss when we

1498
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: built a sitcom around one person for like a fun voice.

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Speaker 3: They had well, stay tuned, stay.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: So I don't think so, honey. I think I'm ready.

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 3: I think I have something that I could do. Want

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01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 3: to hit my phones here? Oh great, you appeared a

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 3: wild phone appeared, welcome on reference.

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01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: Reference Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey.

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: His time starts now.

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. The difference and quality between

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 3: the parts of the Caribbean and Walt Disney World and

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: the parts of the Caribbean and Disneyland. The Walt Disney

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01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 3: World one is way superior. I feel bad for all

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 3: of you California girls. The parts of the Caribbean Disneyland

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01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 3: version takes approximately a half an hour to get through.

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: Is five thousand boats that you're constantly jamming up, and

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: the animatronics are not giving what the girls are giving.

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: In the parts of the Caribbean Orlando.

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: Not to lift up any Johnny Depp animatronic, but I'm

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: just saying it looked like the real doll. Not to

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 3: call Johnny Depp the doll and uh, but in many

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: ways he wasn't walking, talking doll.

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: That's what an animatronic is. Okay, that's what a doll is.

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: But I will say the parts of the Caribbean and

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: Orlando had production value. I couldn't tell where the ceiling

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: started and the wall started.

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: This is huge.

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: It also moves a lot faster. And I'm just saying,

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01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: we got to get through these things, the Disneyland and parts.

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: Of the Caribbean.

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: Some people that had got on it five years ago

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 3: were still on it. We will never find them. They

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 3: are ghosts, just like Johnny and co. I don't think so, honey.

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: That's a one minute so that's just something I've realized,

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01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 3: like because I've been to Disneyland a bunch since living

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: in California, and the Pirates of the Caribbean there is

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: a miserable experience, whereas yesterday I had a wonderful experience

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: on the Pirate's ride.

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know apparently one of the only haunted rides.

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01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were told. Did you say they're making

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: a movie about the redheaded pirate or is that someone

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01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 2: we were with. I don't have this insider knowledge.

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01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: So do you remember how a few years ago they

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01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: changed Pirates of the Caribbean from very much rape culture

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01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 3: to girl boss culture. The way they did that was

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: there was a scene where the pirates were auctioning off women.

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: There was like an iconic scene in project of it

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01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 3: was like an auction of women and had red hair. Yeah,

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01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: it was very problematic, and so what they've done they

1548
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: were selling the red head and after there was uproar

1549
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 3: about this, obviously justifiably, they changed it to the red

1550
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 3: haired woman became a female pirate.

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 2: And she was running the auction. Interesting.

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01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 3: So then apparently there was supposed to be a movie

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: about her, but it's in development. Hell uh huh, we

1554
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: know what that likely story, likely story that's coming back.

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: Matt said, Oh.

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bringing back the phrase likely story when it's

1557
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 3: not likely. Okay, so bone Yang, I'm ready to do

1558
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: your I don't think so.

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 2: If you're ready to give it, I'm ready to give it.

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01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: And it's I'm going to go there. Oh shit, damn it,

1561
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm what about the hand actually, oh jesus me, no, no, no, never,

1562
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: you I am famously the hand. No, okay, this is

1563
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: ban yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Disney Contemporary Resort for changing

1565
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: its theme to Incredibles, I don't really get it. I

1566
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: know that the theme is.

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 5: I know that.

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 2: You know, in seventy one when the park opened, you know,

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: this was one of the this was one of the

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01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: starter resorts. This sort opened with the park amazing at

1571
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: the time. This was incredibly state of the art, ahead

1572
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: of its time aesthetically, and look that aesthetic has remained

1573
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: quite timeless. But I think it's sort of it sort

1574
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,520
Speaker 2: of cheapens the whole thing. If the aesthetic is frozone

1575
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 2: and Edna mode on every damn wall and the wallpaper

1576
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 2: being Jack Jack and miss is incredible. Alasta Girls. Incredibles

1577
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite movies in all of Disney Pixar.

1578
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I.

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01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 3: Cannot really sectomic the colors and the mod theme too much.

1580
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 3: It kind of goes with the temporary but not really

1581
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 3: and that's a minute. Yeah, to be mod and also

1582
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 3: contemporary at the same time is an interesting thing.

1583
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 2: It kind of makes sense, but it kind of doesn't.

1584
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: Right. They do love their ip here, I mean everything,

1585
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it too, but I am

1586
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: in agreeance with you that it feels odd that everywhere

1587
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: you look it's incredible and it makes you feel like

1588
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 3: Ken Incredibles as an ip with stands an entire hotel.

1589
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: I suppose yes. I suppose yes, but I listen. I

1590
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: would have loved it, and this would have been much

1591
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: harder and probably not it would have not hit with

1592
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: the kids, with the family staying in this building.

1593
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 3: Right, That's the thing too. We have to remember Disney

1594
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: is for kids. Disney's for kids.

1595
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: But I and I but I feel like a tron

1596
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 2: thing would have been fun. You literally have the monorail

1597
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: come in it. It feels very like, oh my God,

1598
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: like the magic. You want to stay in a West

1599
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: World hotel. Not necessarily. I'm like, I just think the

1600
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: theming is a little off the mark here in this

1601
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 2: particular building, and.

1602
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: Wanted to stay at the Four Seasons, and I said, no.

1603
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: No, it's no Matt. And this is what I'm not

1604
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: biting that. I'm definitely not biting the hand when you're

1605
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,759
Speaker 2: the hand you did every Matt planned this trip to perfection.

1606
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, this is not a Matt note.

1607
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: This is a the building because I saw before they

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: re themed best it was a perfectly, lovely, perfectly sort

1609
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 3: of like you know, seventies era hotel. Yeah, and I'm

1610
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 3: like something got lost when they and contemporizing is which

1611
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 3: is a word. Yeah, they committed to the IP thing

1612
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 3: and that's what's contemporary for them. They're doing the IP thing. Sure, sure, sure,

1613
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 3: we have had not only a wonderful trip so far

1614
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: that will continue. We're actually we're with Dave Mazzonia right now.

1615
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 3: We're being joined by Studie Green. Later in the week

1616
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 3: we will go enjoy Universal's parks and experiences in a resort.

1617
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: The very excited.

1618
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: But we have also had a great episode today.

1619
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: We've had a great episode today and.

1620
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: It's always great to drop in with sister and enjoy

1621
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 3: time together in the same space and get a little

1622
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 3: tactile when need be. Right now, we're actually wearing our

1623
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 3: magic bands, which we've decided are the fashion accessory going forward.

1624
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: These magic band pluses. Fireworks going off in the fireworks

1625
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: going on. Oh my god, this is truly the finale

1626
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 3: of the episode. There's fireworks going off at the castle.

1627
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,879
Speaker 3: Right when I was gonna say that magic ban pluses

1628
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: are County. Well, literally that's happened several times. Like we'll

1629
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 3: say like magic bands are cunt and then like the

1630
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 3: fireworks will start, like et cetera. Like that's happened many times.

1631
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: Wow, if you say County and and Disney World, there

1632
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: will be fireworks, gunfire.

1633
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry, Okay, this has been lost culture essens

1634
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 3: with Matt Rogers and Boon and Yang, and we end

1635
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,959
Speaker 3: every episode with a song.

1636
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 2: Love is an open Wow. We can't even get through.

1637
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: Are so beef? My life has been a series of

1638
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 2: doors in my face. Then suddenly i'ment inting.

1639
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing, because like I've been

1640
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 4: searching my whole life to find my own place. Maybe

1641
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 4: it's the party talking or the Chocolate Fund.

1642
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: But with you, But with you, I see your it's

1643
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: not not I've never known before.

1644
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 5: Love is an open door. Love is an open Love

1645
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 5: is an open door.

1646
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: With you, with you, with you, with you.

1647
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 5: Love is an open door.