1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: and Ori with you, Jason Martell with us. We're going 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: to take colts with Jason. Next hour, we're talking about 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: going to Mars. Jason, you so eloquently answered what happens 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: if we just landed in certain areas of Mars? What happens, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: in your opinion, what do we see if we go 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: to Sidonia and the astronauts are looking up at this 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: huge structure. They probably can't tell what it is from 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: the ground, the ground level, but from above of course 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: you can. But what do you think they see out there? 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: You know, they there was a movie that they did 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: about I think fifteen years ago now called Mission to 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Mars where they actually like roll up to the face 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: and hit it with some radar and then dust blows 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: off it from the vibrations and this crystalline, huge alien phase. 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: You know, I don't really know what's going to happen. 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be that illustrious, But 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: I do think that when we actually visit Sidonia's going 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: to be some keen markers that are going to make 21 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: us realize there has to be some type of Mars 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Earth connection. Even from where we sit here looking at Mars, 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: we've been able to identify that in that Sidonia region, 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: the pyramidal structures, the DNM pyramid, the face, everything seems 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: to have a very strong connection to Egypt. So what 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: I find interesting, George, is that even on our own planet, 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: we can't even figure out what the pyramids were used 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: for deep in the past. But you know, looking at 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: again through the technological lens, the pyramids were some type 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: of energy device. We know that there must have been 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: some type of ancient world energy grid that shared some 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: type of subtle energy or some type of energy that 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: we don't understand. I bet this extended off planet and 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: might even been a network that was connected to Sidonia. 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: So maybe we'll find some advanced technologies or things that 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: can you know, further push the envelope of understanding what 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: we have here and you know, on Earth, things that 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: we might have found in Egypt that they just haven't 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: made public. Maybe those will be some opportunities to finally 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: surface them when we set foot on Mars, well in 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Egypt as well. Cairo means Mars, I find that to 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: be fascinating, don't you. Yeah, that's that is that is 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: actually quite interesting, you know. And then when we'll look 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: into the history books, there's lots of mentions of Mars. 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Even in some of the ancient Sumerian writings, they speak 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: of exiling a god on Mars, and actually sitchin Wentz's 47 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: great lengths to say that the face was actually carved 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: out of one of these ancient on the Nachi. So 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: it's a really deep question for us to answer, sitting 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: thousands of miles away and trying to answer it. So 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: I think, George, when we actually visit Sidonia with people there, 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the tools that will have capable meaning if you asked me, 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: like if I was one of the fortunate people to 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: be on the mission, and and you know, I have 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: a proposal that I've been trying to get in front 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: of you on Musk around advanced archaeology off planet Earth. 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: He wants us to go to Mars. Guess what, we've 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: already been there. I think if I was to go 59 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: to Mars, I would want to equip myself with the 60 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: right tools just like we have here on Earth. Probably 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: take a couple of DGI drones equipped with some advanced radar, 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: that sort of thing, being able to look for subtle 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: energy and understand like where these things are emanating from. 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of the practices that we've put up 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: to explore ancient sites here I think would also apply 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: to expeditions on Mars. Let's assume for a moment Jay 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: said that Mars was loaded with a civilization much like ours. Now, 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: what do you think happened to that planet? If it 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: had an atmosphere, if it had greenery, if it had oceans, 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: something tragic happened there. What do you think it was? Well, 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to expect you, George, and you know the 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: research that we've been doing through rest is Soul. Doctor 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Tom van Flandron heard that name in a while exploded 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: planet hypothesis, many others, you know, sitchen looking at the 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: planet X model, which we can probably touch on later. 76 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: There's lots of evidence to show that our Solar System 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: has been bombarded, even our own planet, you know, dinosaurs 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: and such uk tend creater. We've been bombarded by you know, 79 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: events happening for quite a long time, and so Mars 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: is no different. Most likely they were subjected to some 81 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: type of a large blast that just rocked their planet's atmosphere, 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: probably in a very quick manner, which you know, is 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: a little alarming. And I don't think we're really really 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: going to know those answers though, until we have a 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: better understanding of our current solar system dynamics. And that's 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: you know, still into question as to how we look 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: at our static model of just one son and is 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: that really the case? So is it conceivable if they 89 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: had high technology and that is spaceships, that they knew 90 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: something was headed their way because of science and they 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: all got in these craft and came to Earth. Well, 92 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: now you're getting into some fun angles there again, the 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Mars Earth connection. Yeah, I think you know, when we 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: look at Sidonia, we're not talking about something that was built, 95 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, a thousand years ago or even ten thousand 96 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: years ago, comparing into what we have in Egypt. Egypt 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: wasn't most likely as far as the Pyramid thinks. They 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: weren't built twenty five hundred BC. These were structures built 99 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: more like ten fifteen thousand DCS. So looking at Sidonia, 100 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: these probably go back hundreds of thousands of years, you know, 101 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: as far as a timeline scale. And so that's I 102 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: think it'll open up a much deeper view of our 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: history than we currently has access to. I think the 104 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: asteroid belt might either be one of two things. Either 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: a planet that might have collided with Mars and blew up, 106 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: or it's a series of what could have been a 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: planet that just never formed and the only thing that 108 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: formed were these rocks that turned out to be asteroids. 109 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, yeah, you're I mean that's 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: pretty much the current science and a little bit of 111 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: Stitch and Sprinkle in there is you know, the model 112 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: shows us that here's the UFO angle on it too. 113 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Is we've heard the phrase MJ twelve, Well, it turns 114 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: out that MJ twelve could also stand for Mars Jupiter 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: twelfth planet, because right in between Mars and Jupiter the 116 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: asteroid belts, there's enough room for a much larger body 117 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: four to eight times the sides of Earth to be 118 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: freely passing in that area where the asteroid belt is. 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, most likely there was some large collision. If 120 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: you look at the accounts from Stitching and the the 121 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: Atra hasss and the you know, the epics of creation 122 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: from Sumerian lens, he basically is saying that Mebiru, an 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: external planet smacked our primitive Earth that wasn't even called 124 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Earth then it was called Tiamat. But Earth was literally 125 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: in a collision with one of the moons of this 126 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: other planet. You know, this large planet comes bind. It 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: has debris, and one of the moons smacked our Earth 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: so hard that it whacked it into half a planet, 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: moved it into its new position, and that's what strewed 130 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: out this debris, the hammered out bracelet, as the Bible 131 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: calls it, into our current asteroid belt. You'd think that 132 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: they'd be looking into this more and want to, you know, 133 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: verify our celestial origins. But no, even these questions are 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: left to us as ufologists and others to really question 135 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: our history of what's written in the text to say, no, 136 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: it's not a misthological tail, folks, it's actual hard science. 137 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: J Jon explained for us what precession is and its 138 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: effects on us. You know, Sitchen did a really good 139 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: job of explaining that our solar system can have external 140 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: influences like a planet X. Ever, since then, the idea 141 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: of any bireu and these topics are really sparked the 142 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: public's interest. When I started to look into these topics. 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: I was fascinated and it led me on a journey 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: of looking into our path. It turns out that all 145 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: of the current sciences that we have line up with 146 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: data that's been coming out of ancient cultures for thousands 147 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: of years, and we just weren't ready to hear it. 148 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: One of the biggest changes is the fact in understanding 149 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: that our solar system most likely isn't static, and it's 150 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: not just one son. We're probably orbiting another son. And 151 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: so if you can take a mental shift, and we 152 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: can talk about this more, but if you can take 153 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: a mental shift to say that our son is an 154 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: orbit around another body, a binary solar system is what 155 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: it's called, more than one son. If our son is 156 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: orbiting another solar system, probably serious A and B. That 157 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: means that all of us, like the Earth, the Jupiter, Mars, 158 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: all of these planets spinning around the Sun, we're actually 159 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: in motion constantly. If our son is orbiting another body, 160 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: we're going along for the ride, and so that changes 161 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: how we see the view of the heavens and so 162 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Up until now, modern astronomers have been calculating something that 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: all the ancients were aware of, called procession and I'm like, wow, 164 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: there's this twenty four thousand your advanced cycle that somehow 165 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: the ancients broke it down into a really cool calendar 166 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: called the Twelve Houses of the Zodiac where we go 167 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: through a two thousand year cycle and the north star 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: switches to a different constellation. But there's a huge cycle, George, 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: and somehow they mapped it, and it does seem to 170 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: affect the rise and fall of civilizations here on Earth. 171 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: And we can talk about some of that breakdown so 172 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: that people can understand it more. And there's also taught 173 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Jason that there might have been some kind of nuclear 174 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: holocaust on Mars. What do you think of that possibility? Well, yeah, 175 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: going back to the Mars piece there for a second, 176 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: I would say that that's probably has some resonance of 177 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: truth to it. There's there's enough evidence here on Earth 178 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: to look at our ancient sites and say, well, where 179 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: did they go or why did these technologies stop? Even 180 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: Sitchen commented that the Sinai Peninsula, Yes, scientists, why is 181 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: it all covered in like heated glass? Why are these 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: sands heated to the point that they look like they've 183 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: been vitrified made into glass? He said, Well, we don't know. 184 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: It looks like there's probably volcanoes or something, and there's like, 185 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: there's no volcanos in the Sinai Peninsula. But there were 186 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: ancient wars. They actually talk about detonating huge weapons. So 187 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: if those civilizations were happening here on Earth ten fifteen 188 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, I can only imagine the connection of 189 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: what might have been taking place on Sidonia, either you know, 190 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: another land grab of ownership and dominance or who knows. 191 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: But the wars in the heavens didn't just happen in 192 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the skies of Earth. They probably extended into the Solar 193 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: system as well. Jason Martella's website is his name linked 194 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: up at Coast to coast am dot com. You also 195 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: can see him quite frequently on the History channels Ancient Aliens. 196 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: His book is Knowledge Apocalypse. And there are some people 197 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: who believe in the different theories about Mars and the 198 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: different theories about planet or Earth. And in your opinion, 199 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: some people believe that there are humans on Mars right now, Jason, 200 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: underground in caverns by the tunes of millions. I find 201 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: that hard to believe. How about you, Well, you know, 202 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: we've been talking about these topics for so long that 203 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, I tried to keep myself grounded in science 204 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and things that we can prove. So there are a 205 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: lot of people in our spectrum of the field that 206 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: say that they've been transported to Mars. They were in 207 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: the military, and we're privately, you know, using some doorway 208 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: in la and think they were there in three minutes, 209 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: like a stargate. I am very positive that there's a 210 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: lot of technologies. I love the show Stargate and Hyan 211 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Mountains complex. Oh yeah, most likely, I think probably all 212 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: that it does exist. But do we have access to 213 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: it or is it going to be something that I 214 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: can help push forward through the public lends no right. 215 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: So we have to you know, utilize technologies and things 216 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: that are going to be accessible for the general public. 217 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: And that's kind of I think our best bet is 218 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: to highlight those avenues. First. If we go to Mars 219 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six or twenty thirties, how long do 220 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: you think those astronauts will stay on Mars? Initially it's 221 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: a permanent settlement, George. So the game plan from what 222 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: I've be searched is that SpaceX plans to you know, 223 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: start a presence on the Moon and then with that 224 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: having a permanent setup there, use that as a way 225 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: station tone to funnel supplies and do things also to Mars. 226 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: And then once you have the Moon base set up 227 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: as well as transport to Mars setup, then you can 228 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: start to bring in the heavy payloads, the heavier starships 229 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: to bring in you know, different things that you would need. 230 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: But I think this should probably be more of a 231 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: ground up, meaning once you're there on Mars, the raw 232 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: materials that you need to build things, to set up 233 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: a foundation, it's all pretty much already there, you know, 234 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: on the planet. Are they going to revolve the astronauts 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: or are they going to want you there? You stay there? Yeah, 236 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: that's you know, in reading some of this stuff, like 237 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're being very forward this. People are going 238 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: to die on their way to Mars. People are going 239 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: to die when they first land on you mean you 240 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: mean naturally that they're going to die of heart attacks 241 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: or whatever happens. They're going to die from from stuff 242 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: that happens. As pioneers going well that that's true, but 243 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: they could die naturally too, just because of the tough time, 244 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, But what I'm saying is that they're 245 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: being very clear and upfront that this is an a 246 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: mission of joy. This is pushing the envelope forward, and 247 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: people will make sacrifices, but they will be They will 248 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: be living there as a permanent settlement. And you know, 249 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: so to hear your point, not only will they be dying, 250 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: but maybe also giving birth. The late science fiction writer 251 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: Jerry Purnell, who has passed on, told me a story 252 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: once is his editor and my editor were the same 253 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: when we were publishing books and writing books, and he 254 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: said that, in an effort to beat the Soviet Union 255 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: to the moon, which we did, that in an effort 256 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: to beat them, had we not done the Apollo program 257 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: that we did, that they planned on sending an astronaut 258 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: to the moon. He was going to live in a 259 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: capsule or some kind of cut type thing, and they 260 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: were going to drop supplies to him, but he was 261 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: It was a one way mission. Had you ever heard 262 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: that story, I haven't, but it makes me wonder. To 263 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: beat the Russians, they would have said, just to beat 264 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: the Russians, we would have sent a person to the moon, 265 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: dumped him there and he would have lived there for 266 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the rest of his life. Thank God. Well, it does 267 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: make me wonder again looking at it from our lens 268 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: of understanding that the moon is probably already occupied, and 269 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: that when they first landed there, some of the quotes are, 270 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: why are you sending us here in tricycles when the 271 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: military is already here in Ferraris. So I would wonder 272 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: too that even if they had that plan, were they 273 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: quickly to be like, oh man, that's not going to work. 274 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: He's quickly going to have a problem with the people 275 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: two blocks down on the dark side that are going 276 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: to constantly come over and tell him to leave. 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