WEBVTT - Louis Armstrong & William Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, bet, why are you staring at that book and

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<v Speaker 1>clapping while you read? Hey, Elliott, I'm reading the place

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<v Speaker 1>by one of our famous figures today, William Shakespeare, and

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<v Speaker 1>clapping out the beats of the rhythm in iambic pantameter,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the style that he and most playwrights and

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<v Speaker 1>poets of his day wrote in. Yeah, but none of

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<v Speaker 1>you're here? Would you mind taking over? Uh? Sure, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now keep that beat, I'm going to use it to

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<v Speaker 1>play a song, just like our other famous figure, jazz

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<v Speaker 1>legend Louis Armstrong two when at twelve and hey, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you stop clapping? I was just getting started. I

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<v Speaker 1>was calling that one King Lear, after one of Shakespeare's

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<v Speaker 1>most famous plates. Well be it definitely sounded like a

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy to me. Come on, I just need a little

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<v Speaker 1>more practice. Now hit me with that measure for measure

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<v Speaker 1>and put a little English on it. Oh boy, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>please play the theme song you go bloody? Think you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the Gates Room? The game is on. Get

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<v Speaker 1>with him just in case. It's Elliott Galen, Thank you be,

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<v Speaker 1>Who Was? Podcast. This show is like Jeopardy, only with

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<v Speaker 1>let cool first before we eat. M These are good,

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<v Speaker 1>and so is the roof of my map. Great work be.

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<v Speaker 1>Our contestants were sent Who Was books about two great

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<v Speaker 1>figures from history. Now they're here to show off their

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes, prizes prizes.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking about two people who love play dates,

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Armstrong and William Shakespeare. But before we learn about them,

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<v Speaker 1>let's learn about our contestants. Okay, First up, we've got Gia. Gia,

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<v Speaker 1>please introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Jia. I'm a lovely pan

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<v Speaker 1>tegennist turning into a nineties summer t and tegennist trampoline

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<v Speaker 1>and tumbling. How many levels are there in in TNT gymnastics. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so once you go to the ten, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>elite and then sorry it's junior ely then elite basically

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<v Speaker 1>will So how long have you been tumbling and trampolining? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Six years? Wow? I have one more question for you

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<v Speaker 1>to which do you prefer the trampolining or the tumbling? Tumbling?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's my need advent and that sounds really cool. Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I tumble a lot. I fall down quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>because my balance is not so good. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>I should get into jim Naso stumbling? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been stumbling yet? Yeah? That that's like jazz tumbling

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<v Speaker 1>is stumbling. Yes, the flips that you don't do, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's very impressive. Yeah, that's fantastic. And our other

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<v Speaker 1>contestant port to day is Hazel. Hazel, would you please

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<v Speaker 1>introduce yourself. Hey, I'm Hazel. I used state pronouns. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>currently second for public form debate and yeah, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>more about this debate. I'm I'm curious about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>usually get a resolution each year, and for the resolution

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<v Speaker 1>last year was to the benefits of space travel out

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<v Speaker 1>with harms, and I was on the negative side, which

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<v Speaker 1>means I got to talk about environment and pollution and

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<v Speaker 1>I got to say how space travel was back and

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<v Speaker 1>me and my partner we went to a state competition

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're second in state. Oh my gosh, well congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that second place. It means that you're hungry

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<v Speaker 1>for the first place, right, Yeah, that competition. That firing you.

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<v Speaker 1>And similar to what I was saying to Gee, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if I should take debate because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of debates around my house. But it's more like

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<v Speaker 1>it's more like we're having spaghetti for dinner and my

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<v Speaker 1>kids go, no, we're not. In my family. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we should have tacos. We should have tacos, like we

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<v Speaker 1>debate over like the example, we're on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>but still want to fight about it. That's the best

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<v Speaker 1>kind of debate where everybody everyone agrees but no, this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff exactly. And it's also the best kind of debate

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<v Speaker 1>because you get tacos. That dan sound. Yeah, every tacobates

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<v Speaker 1>all end in tacos. Well, thank you so much both

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<v Speaker 1>of you for joining us today. We're very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on the show. And also thank you to Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>our musician providing our mythic contestants music and all the

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<v Speaker 1>music you're here today. So that's who is. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>find out who was Louis Armstrong with four fast facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Armstrong was born in nineteen o one and died

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy one. Louis started playing the cornet, a

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<v Speaker 1>brass instrument similar to a trumpet, when he was seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis became one of the most famous and influential voices

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<v Speaker 1>in jazz. Speaking of voices, Louis was also known for

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<v Speaker 1>his distinctive, gravelly voice. Fools, those facts were crazy interesting

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<v Speaker 1>you said it'd be. Louis Armstrong lived a very interesting life. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to toot my own horn, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy to let you folks continue. Louis Armstrong. A shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the who was app for helping you get

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<v Speaker 1>here today? Who was wandering in the past? Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>came here out of curiosity. I was just wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>either view fine contestants play an instrument or no anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who does. That's a great question. How about it? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have time to play an instrument when you're not

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<v Speaker 1>tumbling your trampoline. Yes, I planned to be. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hazel, what about you do playing in I also

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<v Speaker 1>play viola and I also play piano to start viola,

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<v Speaker 1>So today I'm going to ignore the piano. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's viola versus viola. We've got a real viol off

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<v Speaker 1>as it's the It's w w V World War Viola

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<v Speaker 1>today on the Hula's podcast. Very exciting and very cool. Okay, Louis,

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<v Speaker 1>you came all this way. I would hate for you

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<v Speaker 1>to just leave after asking one question? Would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to post our first game? It's called true or false? False?

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<v Speaker 1>Is a true or false? Is it false? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>the true? Is the truth that it is false? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it false that it was true? Or true? True or fault?

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<v Speaker 1>In this game, Louis will ask our contestants a question

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<v Speaker 1>and they will let us know if it is true

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<v Speaker 1>or false. It's right there in the title. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>first game of the game, so each question is worth

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<v Speaker 1>one point. First question goes to Gia Ready when you

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<v Speaker 1>are Louis. When I was a little boy and the

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<v Speaker 1>other kids called me did Berth because I was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge gravity false fan false. That's right, it's false. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have gravity falls back then. Back when Louie was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid drinking water, it was kept in buckets. A

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<v Speaker 1>ladle called a dipper was used to pour water into

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<v Speaker 1>a cup. But all the kids like to drink straight

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<v Speaker 1>from the dipper the same way. My son's only want

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<v Speaker 1>to drink right out of the faucet, and Louie he

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<v Speaker 1>could drink an entire mouthful in one gulf, so the

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<v Speaker 1>kids called him Dipper. Now as a grown up, he

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<v Speaker 1>was known by the nickname Sachmo. Mr Armstrong. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>they call you Satchmo? That's a good question. That was

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<v Speaker 1>short for satchel mouth. People just couldn't stop talking about

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth. Well, it is a great mouth. Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>next question goes to Hazel. When I first started playing

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<v Speaker 1>music professionally, I played clubs at night. It slept all day,

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<v Speaker 1>like some kind of jazz dracula. I think it's half true,

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<v Speaker 1>half false, because I remember in the book it said

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<v Speaker 1>that you only slept for a few hours before going

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<v Speaker 1>back to work. Yep, we'll take it. We're gonna say false.

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<v Speaker 1>But you provided exactly the reason why Louie's early music

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<v Speaker 1>careers started out in nightclubs called honky tonks. Honky talks

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<v Speaker 1>paid musicians very low wages, so LOUI had to have

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<v Speaker 1>a day job. He'd played long into the night to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep for a couple of hours and then go back

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Sounds more like a jazz batman to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the next question goes to you, Gia. I didn't learn

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<v Speaker 1>to read music until after I was already a professional musician. True,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, it's true. Louis didn't learn to treat music

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<v Speaker 1>until he was nineteen years old, already a professional. He

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<v Speaker 1>was playing on a steamboat called the Dixie Bell. This

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<v Speaker 1>steamer took long trips down the Mississippi River, so he

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<v Speaker 1>used the spare time to learn to read music. Up

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<v Speaker 1>until then, his natural talent let him learn songs and

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<v Speaker 1>tunes just by hearing them. Okay, Hazel, here comes the

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<v Speaker 1>final question of the round. Wow. Recording a song of

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<v Speaker 1>mine called he Beat Gebs, I dropped the sheet music

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<v Speaker 1>and without the music, I just started singing silly nurses

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<v Speaker 1>like scooba to bob Bob do bo bamboo. True. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. Back then, musicians had to record a song

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<v Speaker 1>all the way right through in one take, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you made a mistake, you couldn't stop. Lewis's scadding was

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a mistake, but people liked the sound. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>some musicians say he invented scat singing. Okay, Elliott, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about invented. Now made better by Bop. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk to you about your car insurance. By

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can bumble and stay with Geico. The

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<v Speaker 1>best scatting always involves car insurance. And let the Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>taught us that true and true, true, true hororful. Great

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<v Speaker 1>job both you, Ge and Hazel. A round of applause

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<v Speaker 1>to you both, the applause of an adoring audience south

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<v Speaker 1>to an artist's ears here. Yeah, we came here together.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said he wanted to make a fashionably late entrance.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll look at that Elizabethian rock and I'd say it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a late entrance. Seems that we've gotten appearance by

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<v Speaker 1>the green Heart monster. That phrase is one that I wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>but feel free to use it. Yes it is, I

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<v Speaker 1>poets playwright, the Bard of Avon. But please call me will.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing. Where there's a will, there's a way. The

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<v Speaker 1>O g MC and yeah, I wrote a few plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I came up for several phrases that you still use today.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me lead you on to hear this one

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<v Speaker 1>wild Google. She let me break the ice because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a method to my madness, ask Camlet. I can be funny,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be tragic. I love words like Juliet loves Romeo,

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<v Speaker 1>like Antonio said the Sebastian. I'll teach you how to fly.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the concentrata. Yeah, I set the program that's

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<v Speaker 1>for stories that will be told three hundred years later

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<v Speaker 1>on cameras. But isn't it the worst. Let's be a

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<v Speaker 1>riddle universe, and it's so hidden in the words they

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit discursed. So forget if you heard this.

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<v Speaker 1>Bart was only for the birds, right, for everyone, from

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<v Speaker 1>peasants to Elizabeth the First. I am literally literature. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how they came up with the Lion King and

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<v Speaker 1>west Side story. I won't make you guess my stories,

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<v Speaker 1>so as you like it. I wrote sword fights and

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<v Speaker 1>in Sinkings, also true Love Blooming in midday strings. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so busy writing I have not slept one wig.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll endo my intro here unless we have too

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<v Speaker 1>much of a good thing. Wow, that slaps yes, a

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<v Speaker 1>true boy, Thank you, thank you. It was totally off

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<v Speaker 1>the cuff part. And I know we're from different times.

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<v Speaker 1>Did off the cuff mean practice all the way here

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<v Speaker 1>in your era? Louis? I love your honest nature and

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<v Speaker 1>your wonderful horn. Speaking of which, didn't you mention jamming

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<v Speaker 1>out with Jimmy Hendricks later? Surely it's become later, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>oh raspberries right. I've had a lot of fun with

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<v Speaker 1>you folks today, especially these contestants, even even if they

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<v Speaker 1>are players. About his cabattle farewell, the sachement made the

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<v Speaker 1>delicate hand of fake guide your every step. Yeah, sure whatever, cool? Good,

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<v Speaker 1>mean you too, man? And thanks again? Who was that?

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<v Speaker 1>We should also get going to a short break, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll check in with producer Jane with the scores right

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<v Speaker 1>after this. Eric play us some jazz draccula music. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the blood you don't drink that matters, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Who Was? Podcast? Today we're learning

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<v Speaker 1>all about who was Louis Armstrong and who was William Shakespeare?

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<v Speaker 1>And now back to your host, Elliot Kalin. Thanks be

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<v Speaker 1>let's scat on over to producer Jane with our scores

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<v Speaker 1>so far Elliott, be uh Scooby, pop pop up Up, Dewey,

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<v Speaker 1>Hazel and Gia are tied at two. Oh nice one, Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>you love that scatting and rhyming with the scatting. A

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<v Speaker 1>very talented producer, thanks me. It's as close as a

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<v Speaker 1>game can get all tied up. So let's go on

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<v Speaker 1>to the next game, because here's the thing. The plays

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. So let's find out who was William Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>with four fast facts paspacts. William Shakespeare was born in

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen sixty four and died in sixteen sixteen. To this day,

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<v Speaker 1>he is considered the world's greatest playwright. Take that, Tom Stoppard.

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<v Speaker 1>He coined hundreds of words and phrases that are still

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<v Speaker 1>in use today. Some of Shakespeare's plays include Hamlet, Romeo

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<v Speaker 1>and Juliet, King Lear and Othello fo faspacts. Did anyone

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<v Speaker 1>know that in the corridor there's a machine field with

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<v Speaker 1>chips made of potato and something encased in chocolate called newgat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a remarkable time, oh William Shakespeare. I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>still here. We're actually about to start a game called

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<v Speaker 1>by any other Name, And it seems appropriate that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you could host it, seeing as how you wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>famous line a rose by any other name would smell

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<v Speaker 1>as sweet in the play Romeo and Juliet. If you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to host the game, of course, the games the foot.

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<v Speaker 1>In this game, William Shakespeare will describe some aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>his life, but use an odd rhyming word or phrase

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<v Speaker 1>instead of the exact word that we're looking for. So

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<v Speaker 1>you must decipher what he's saying and tell us the

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<v Speaker 1>real word that rhymes with the nonsense word so okay.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if the answer is big deal, Will would

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<v Speaker 1>say something funny that rhymes with it, like pig reel,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I call the outtakes from Baby Pig

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<v Speaker 1>in the City. It's a movie starting a pig. And

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<v Speaker 1>because this is our second game, each question is worth

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<v Speaker 1>two points. Hazel, you're a first will break a leg.

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<v Speaker 1>I maybe considered the world's greatest play right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I shall always proudly be the son of a humble

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<v Speaker 1>above faker. Uh, leather maker or glovemaker. That's right, The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is glovemaker. Remember the answer needs to rhyme. Glovemaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Will's father made gloves, belts, purses, and aprons, all leather products.

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<v Speaker 1>Will's family was firmly middle class, which means while they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't poor, they weren't rich or the nobility either. Okay, Gia,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the next question. When I first moved to London,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not put you a call well off. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still love to stand and watch plays with the

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<v Speaker 1>other bound things. I don't know, that's all right. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is the ground lanes. In Will's time, tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>a theater performance were sixpence or sixpennies for the best seats.

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<v Speaker 1>That bought you a seat with a cushion. Must be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>The cheapest tickets were a penny allowed you to stand

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<v Speaker 1>close to the stage with the other cheap ticket holders

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<v Speaker 1>that were known as groundlings because they were standing on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Okay, Hazel, this next one is for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I use Iambic pentameter to write in what was a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderfully lyrical style called drank first. In fact, some say

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<v Speaker 1>I became a master of that style, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>particularly prone to disagreement. I don't know. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>tough one. The answer is blank verse. Blank verse doesn't rhyme,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does have rhythm. I ambic contamperater is the

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<v Speaker 1>fancy name of this rhythm or pattern. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>clap to this rhythm, every other beat is loud. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's an example. Be could you do the example? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, riveting. Yeah, that pattern repeats five times

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<v Speaker 1>in each line of blank verse. Thank you Be and Jia.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the final question for you. During the horrible, difficult

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<v Speaker 1>time of the bubonic plague, it was not possible to

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<v Speaker 1>perform on stage, so I became a poet and started

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<v Speaker 1>writing bonnets. That's right. The answer is sonnets. Sonnets are

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen line poems with a very complicated rhyme pattern. Will

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a hundred and fifty four sonnets over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and books of his sonnets are still in print today.

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<v Speaker 1>And that, Folks, is the end of by any other name,

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<v Speaker 1>great work, both of you. That's a tough game, and

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<v Speaker 1>you both did really And now exit to Jane. Pursued

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<v Speaker 1>by the scores. It's a fancy, fancy way of asking

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<v Speaker 1>for the scores exactly, and that's that's the what I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do is tell you, uh, and so Hazel and Gia,

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<v Speaker 1>I must implore you know that you both scored four

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<v Speaker 1>oh so I am a contamina. Thank you. Beautifully done,

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully done. I think we've got a modern day Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Sorry, sorry, I mean I mean, I mean Shakespeare.

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<v Speaker 1>You're great too, You're great too. Okay, close game, very close,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Jane's abilities are very close to Shakespeare's. And again, Shakespeare,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining us today. It was

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<v Speaker 1>truly a delight. But now, dear friends, I must away

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<v Speaker 1>to go eat chicken fingers, poultry, not poultry with my

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<v Speaker 1>great colorades, and I'm carried gracefully on the wings of

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<v Speaker 1>the Who Was? App Who Was More? Cool? Good meeting

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube man. We'll be back with our final game after

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<v Speaker 1>this break. Eric, would you happen to have some glove

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<v Speaker 1>and purse making music you could play for us? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Driving Moves, Daisy Sally? Who was there? Marie Curie? You

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<v Speaker 1>may remember me from winning multiple Nobel Prizes, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>from my episode of the Who Worst Podcast where I

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<v Speaker 1>played myself. I wanted to take a moment to read

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this

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<v Speaker 1>Me and my little sister love this show more. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>our faith is Ariet Toman. If you want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>like and review to the worst podcasts in the I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio up or wherever you give your podcasts revoir

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<v Speaker 1>or should say abio. Welcome back to the Who Was Plodcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're learning about old school players Louis Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>William Shakespeare. Before the break, Gia had four points and

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<v Speaker 1>Hazel had four points. Lots of tip. Now back to

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<v Speaker 1>our host, Elliot Kalin. Thanks me. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about how film is the modern day equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to what plays were in Shakespeare's day in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>popularity and you know, in words for people. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun to ask our contestants what's their favorite movie? Jia,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a favorite movie? What is it? If

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<v Speaker 1>you do, um, it's actually an old movie. It's Baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a great movie. Good answer. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>really funny movie. Hazel, what about you? What's your favorite movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I also actually prefer old movies. My favorite movie right

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<v Speaker 1>now is Bend It Like Beckham, how sad for me

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<v Speaker 1>that that is considered an old movie now? I also

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<v Speaker 1>feel similarly as those are movies that came out when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. That's all right, it came up

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<v Speaker 1>when I was an adult. Well, those are both great movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say. I also love old movies, but like

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<v Speaker 1>really old movies, and I think my favorite movie is

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<v Speaker 1>probably The Wizard of Oz. I find it very magical

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<v Speaker 1>and I always kind of cry a little bit at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Be what's your favorite movie? Well, my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>movie is B Movie, of course. Yeah. Sure, B Movie

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<v Speaker 1>is a fun movie. No, it hasn't been made yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the screenplay for my bio pick. I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>break it to be, but there's already a B movie

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<v Speaker 1>like the kind of bee that flies around? I fly

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<v Speaker 1>around in my movie. I have this great idea that

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Seinfeld is going to do my voice. Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>be Well, we'll talk about this after the game. After

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<v Speaker 1>our final game, which is coming up right now, Converge

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<v Speaker 1>of Greatness. In this multiple choice game B, we'll read

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<v Speaker 1>questions where our two strocal figures overlap or con urge.

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<v Speaker 1>And because recovering two times the history, this game is

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<v Speaker 1>worth three points for each question. It's not a math podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Picked the best option as your answer, Jia. This first

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<v Speaker 1>question is for you take it away be. Both Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Shakespeare did not mince words when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>talking about those in power. But while Shakespeare and other

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<v Speaker 1>poets of his day often flattered the monarchs with their work,

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong was more outspoken. Who did Louis call an uneducated plowboy?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a President Jimmy Carter be Governor of Arkansas?

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<v Speaker 1>Or ol Fabis or see the King Elvis Presley B.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The answer is be. During the Little Rock

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<v Speaker 1>nine incident, when the governor of Arkansas was refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>end segregation in the state schools, Louis Armstrong was so

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<v Speaker 1>outraged at what he saw he called the governor an

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<v Speaker 1>uneducated plowboy. Lou was a very popular black musician at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and he risked a lot when he was

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<v Speaker 1>speaking truth to power and giving his support to the

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights movement in the nineteen sixties. Hazel you right next.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Louis Armstrong and William Shakespeare worked in team based professions.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis was in many bands in his career before leading

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<v Speaker 1>his own. When William moved to London, he joined an

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<v Speaker 1>acting troop called a Lord Chamberlain's Men b Mystery Men

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<v Speaker 1>or see the fun time play guys. A, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is A. Shakespeare not only joined the troop,

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<v Speaker 1>but thanks to the money from his poetry, he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to become part owner of the company. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd stay with this troop for the rest of his career,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how you know it's not an improv troop. Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>take that improv Gia. Back to you for the next question.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Armstrong and William Shakespeare were both writers. Most people

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<v Speaker 1>know Louis Armstrong wrote music, but he also wrote books.

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<v Speaker 1>His first book was called A Swing That Music. B.

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<v Speaker 1>Please stop talking about my mouth or see the Hunger Games. A.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, The answer is A Swing That Music was

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<v Speaker 1>published in nineteen thirties six. Not only was it louise

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<v Speaker 1>first book, who was also the very first autobiography by

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<v Speaker 1>a jazz musician. Over the years, he wrote two autobiographies,

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<v Speaker 1>over ten magazine articles, hundreds of pages of memoirs, and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of letters. And that's aside from the dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>songs he wrote that are considered jazz classics today. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I suddenly feel like I should dust off my to

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<v Speaker 1>do list, Hazel. The next and final question of the

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<v Speaker 1>game is yours. Both Louis and Shakespeare got creative with words.

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz musicians had their own way of talking. Cat meant

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<v Speaker 1>musician and gig meant job, and he was great at

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<v Speaker 1>improvising words when he would scat in a song. Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>is credited with introducing many words and phrases we still

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<v Speaker 1>use today. Which of the following is not one? Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly created a cold blooded be puppy dog or see

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<v Speaker 1>on fleek. See that's right the answer to see Shakespeare

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<v Speaker 1>didn't invent on fleek. Kayla Newman a k a At

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<v Speaker 1>peaches Monroe's credit with that phrase. The phrases like cold

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<v Speaker 1>blooded or wild goose chase make their first appearances in

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare's scripts. He also supposedly came up with every comedian's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite phrase, knock knock, who's there? The winner is? The

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<v Speaker 1>winner is who We're about to find out just after

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<v Speaker 1>this That sound means we're at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and alas at the end of the show. Parting is

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<v Speaker 1>such sweet sorrow when we wait for Jane to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the points I'd love to hear from the contestants. Hazel,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the favorite thing you learned about Shakespeare or Louis Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that Louis Armstrong's book was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>first autobiography published by jazz musician. I thought other musicians

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<v Speaker 1>would have done that one by now, but they hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what's funny to think about is how kind of

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<v Speaker 1>new jazz was to most people at that time. Jazz

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<v Speaker 1>back then it was kind of like what well I

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<v Speaker 1>was about to name what the new music is now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the new music is now because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm too old for it. What's the new music now, Ja, Hazel,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the music now? Tell us what the new music

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<v Speaker 1>is now? Kids are back into vintage. We kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like just pretending that we were all born in the

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<v Speaker 1>year two thousand. It's nice. I guess maybe viola music

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<v Speaker 1>is is the new the new anything on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the block. Yeah, the future of music is that viola sound.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. I can't wait to hear it. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much both of you for sharing that with us.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for the big moment. Jane, please

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<v Speaker 1>announced our winner. Hell and b I will not lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Hazelnia had ten points both and that's a time amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got two winners today, and we've got to rhyme

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<v Speaker 1>im and all the time. Jane, the raming is getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of control. Thank you for nursing. You're welcome. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fantastic, Jia, Hazel, we both played great games. You're

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<v Speaker 1>both winners, so you both get ten seconds for shout outs.

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<v Speaker 1>G if you'd like to go first. Who would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to thank for helping you to this sheer victory today?

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