1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm trade Bob Wilson and I'm Holly Frying. So I've 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: been to a lot of museums. A lot of these museums, 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to be totally fair, have been in the United States. 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: And one thing that I found, Holly, I don't know 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: if this is your experience as well, but unless I'm 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: in an exhibit but is specifically about slavery or race, 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of weird sleight of hand that goes 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: on with slavery. Absolutely, I think some museums don't want 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: to turn off potential museum goers by engaging in a 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: really difficult topics. Sometimes. Yeah, so yes, I've been to 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: exhibits about the American Civil War that really focus on 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: the battles and make almost no mention of the slaves 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: that the war was pretty much bought over. Uh, there 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: are descriptions of the horrors of slavery that are kind 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: of weird late compartmentalized as this thing that happened in 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the past. We were much less enlightened, and it doesn't 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: really explore how having built a nation on that practice 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: continues to affect people of every race today. It's it's 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of odd. And I'm not just talking about the 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: museums in the United States. Most of the other museums 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: that I have been to are in the Caribbean, and 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: they also just deflect the focus away from the roles 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: that these islands played in slavery and vice versa, and 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: instead onto things like beautiful shorelines and birds and like shipwrecks. 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: So this is not the case at the St. Kitts 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: National Museum and Basstaire Saint Kitts. The National Museum is 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: in the old Treasury building, which was originally built in 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: and it's an easy walk from the cruise port, which 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: is how I got there. With so many other museums, 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: there's this weird Jedi mind trick about just focusing your 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: tension somewhere else besides slavery. That is not how they 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: do it at the St. Kitts National Museum there. It 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: is more like have a seat. The culture of St. 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: Kitts comes from two places, the native peoples who used 37 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: to live here and are enslaved African ancestors. It's literally 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the only time I've been to a museum that was 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: just like the National Museum, not like a museum that 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: was devoted specifically, UH, justice slavery or justice civil rights 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: or just a race. H and had that up front 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: of an approach about it. So naturally, even though I 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: was there on vacation, I came away with things to 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: talk about on the show today. So we are just 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: going to jump right into that. Uh. St. Kitts, which 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: is sometimes called St. Christopher, is part of the Leeward Islands, 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: which is the northwest arm of the Lesser Antilles in 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: the Caribbean Sea. Exactly which other islands are part of 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the Leeward Islands depends a little bit on who is 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: drawing the map, what time period we're talking about, and 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: whether they're looking at things from a glawgical or a 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: cultural and historical perspective. Regardless, St. KITT's nearest neighbor is Nevis, 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: and St. Kitts and Nevis together are one country as 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: the Federation of St. Kitts and Nevis, and this is 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: the smallest country in the Western Hemisphere UH and Nevis 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: has actually tried to separate into its own country a 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: couple of times, and it's the smaller island of the 58 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: two of them. If you're still having a hard time 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: visualizing exactly where we're talking about. St. Kitts and Nevis 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: is east of Puerto Rico and north of Venezuela. St. 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Kitts has been inhabited almost continually for about five thousand 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: years that we know of when Christopher Columbus sighted the 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: island on his second voyage in fourteen three. It's inhabitants 64 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: where the carib and the Arawak people's. Unfortunately, we don't 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: really know much about either of these cultures as they 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: existed on St. Kitts. They were all killed through violence 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: or disease or moved to other nearby islands as Europeans 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: colonized St. Kitts in the sixteen hundreds. This is actually 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: true of many other populations of the carib and the 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Arawak peoples. They did not fare at all well as 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Europeans moved in. St. Kitts is a volcanic island, and 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: that meant that the soil was very good for growing 73 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: sugar once the rainforest was cleared away to make way 74 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: for the sugar plantations. So by the end of the 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: seventeenth century, the sugar industry dominated the island and the 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the people living there were enslaved Africans. 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Although both France and Britain colonized Saint Kitts, it eventually 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: became British territory. And today's story is about what happened 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: after the British Empire abolished slavery, which is what we're 80 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: going to talk about. After a brief break forward from 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: a sponsor. Slavery was abolished in England in seventeen seventy two, 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: and the British Parliament passed the Abolition of the Slave 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Trade Act in eighteen oh seven. But while that act 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: abolished the buying and selling of human beings, it didn't 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: actually do anything about the people who are already enslaved 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: elsewhere in the Empire. In August of eighteen thirty three, 87 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: after decades of activity by Britain's abolitionist movement as well 88 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: as by slaves themselves, Parliament passed the Slavery Abolition Act, 89 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: which was which was going to free all slaves in 90 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: the British Empire. There were some exceptions though that included, 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: for example, the territories and possession of the East India Company. 92 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: In most places, this law was going to free all 93 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: enslaved people over the age of six on August first, 94 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: eighteen thirty four. Here's how the act starts. Quote, Whereas 95 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: diverse persons are holding in slavery within diverse of His 96 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: Majesty's colonies, and it is just an expedient that all 97 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: such persons should be manumented and set free, and that 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: a reasonable compensation should be made to the persons hitherto 99 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: entitled to the services of such slaves, for the loss 100 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: which they will incur by being deprived of their right 101 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: to such services. And whereas it is also expedient the 102 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: provision should be made for promoting the industry and securing 103 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: the good conduct of the persons so to be manumented 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: for a limited period after such their manumission. And whereas 105 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it is necessary that the laws now in force in 106 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: the said several colonies should forthwith be adapted to the 107 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: new state and relations of society therein, which will follow 108 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: upon such general manumission as aforesaid of the said slaves, 109 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: And that, in order to afford the necessary time for 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: such adaptation of the said laws, a short interval should 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: elapse before such manumission should take effect. And then it 112 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: goes on to outline all of the specific provisions in 113 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: the Act and how this is going to happen. So 114 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: what the Act basically says is that slaves should be 115 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: set free, and that slave owners should be compensated for 116 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the loss of their slaves, and that there should be 117 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: some kind of buffer in place that the people who 118 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: relied on slave labor didn't imediately lose or have to 119 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: start paying their laborers. The rationale behind all this was, 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: for the most part, the industries that relied on slavery 121 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: and we're still using slave labor needed a lot of 122 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: labor to continue running. So if suddenly there were no 123 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: more slaves, it would be a hindrance on the continuation 124 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: of industry. So, in other words, when we say the 125 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: word abolished, it really goes in the air quotes there. 126 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: Emancipation was not immediate. In most places, slaves had to 127 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: continue to work for a set amount of time without 128 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: pay before they could be freed. The British West Indies 129 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: enslaved people over the age of six were turned into apprentices, 130 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: and apprentices would have to work forty five hours per 131 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: week for between four and six years to earn their freedom. 132 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: That forty five hours a week for between four and 133 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: six years was also without pay. Meanwhile, the plantation owners 134 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: and the British and the British West Indies and elsewhere 135 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: were giving grants from the government as a compensation for 136 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: the loss of their slave. The government actually earmarked twenty 137 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: million pounds sterling for that purpose. Obviously, there are a 138 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: number of problems with the idea of quote freeing slaves 139 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: by making them continue to work for free, although this 140 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: tactic was really not the least bit unique to the 141 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: British Empire. But let's put that aside for just a second, 142 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: because there were some other complications going on here as well. 143 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Because they were not going to be paid for their 144 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: forty five hours of work per week, apprentices would have 145 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: to do extra work to make any money to support 146 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: themselves or to try to prepare for a life as 147 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: an actual free person. They need to either hire themselves 148 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: out as labor, or grow crops to sell on a 149 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: personal plot, or make items that could be sold for money, 150 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: or some other way of making a living, and their 151 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: time to do any of that started after their forty 152 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: five hours per week of work ended. At some plantations, 153 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: this forty five hour schedule was doled out as nine 154 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: hours a day or five days, so that people could 155 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: go to the Saturday markets and sell the things that 156 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: they'd made or grown in their spare time, and then 157 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: be able to go to church on Sunday. But at 158 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: other plantations it was to be six seven and a 159 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: half hour days, and only Sundays were given off. There 160 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: were no provisions for how that six day week would 161 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: allow people to get to the market or buyer spell 162 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: these things that they needed. There were also no provisions 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: for the care or education of the children under the 164 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: age of sex who were to be freed immediately. And 165 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: on top of all of that was this very basic 166 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: issue of food. Enslaved people in the British Caribbean Territory 167 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: were allotted a certain amount of food. It was effectively rationed, 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: but even before the abolition of slavery, many planters and 169 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: their slave owners had trouble affording the food that they 170 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: needed to supply that amount of food. This was also 171 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: especially true after the price of sugar plummeted at the 172 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: end of the Napoleonic Wars in eighteen fifteen, so there 173 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: was some pretty serious doubt that plan station owners would 174 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: be willing to or even able to provide enough food 175 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: for all of these apprentices, and even if they were 176 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: able to do so, those rational amounts really weren't enough 177 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: to stay healthy, especially given how much manual labor was 178 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: going to be involved for many of these slaves. And 179 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: back to that big, ugly truth that we put aside 180 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: just a minute ago, Emancipating people by requiring them to 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: work for free for a bunch more years is not 182 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: the same thing as actually emancipating them. And the slaves 183 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: living on St. Kits understood that there was this huge, 184 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: huge resistance to the idea that they were going to 185 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: be quote free but still have to work for the 186 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: same people in the same jobs without earning anything. Was 187 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: obvious that this whole apprentice situation was bogus, and according 188 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: to the accounts of a number of missionaries in St. 189 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Kitts at the time, the slaves were also really pretty 190 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: justifiably suspicious of the idea that if they only worked 191 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: without pay for several years, they would afterwards be free forever. 192 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: In the words of Wesleyan missionary James Cox, quote, all 193 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: my attempts to show that the apprenticeship was a part 194 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: payment for absolute unconditional freedom were in some cases unsatisfactory. 195 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: I am fully persuaded therefore, that that had the term 196 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: slavery been retained with the modification of the present system, 197 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: it would have been productive of far less confusion. Almost 198 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: as soon as word reached the island of exactly when 199 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: and how this so called emancipation was going to come, 200 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: slave on slaves on St. Kitts started to resist, and 201 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: their first tactic was basically to just slow down their production. 202 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: That initial slowdown was kind of temporary, though The Lieutenant 203 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Governor of the island, John Nixon, commended the plantation owners 204 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: afterward for their quote good management and getting production back 205 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: on course quote without coercion. White abolitionists on St. Kitts 206 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: started at cating resistance in the hope that true emancipation 207 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: might come earlier. There was some precedent here after a 208 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: very close vote on the nearby island of Antigua, so 209 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: close in fact, that the deciding vote was cast by 210 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House. All of the slaves there 211 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: were freed immediately, but white abolitionists were by far not 212 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: the only people encouraging these enslaved people to resist. At 213 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: this point, about seven percent of the population on St. 214 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: Kitts were white, but eleven percent were cast classified as 215 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: free colored. Some of the most prominent of the free 216 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: people of color started to vocally advocate for the abolition 217 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: of slavery, now not after four or six years of 218 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: so called apprenticeship. One of these was Ralph Cleghorn, who 219 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: owned a store, and he was so vocal on the 220 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: issue that planters actually started forbidding their employees to shop there. 221 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: And at some point along the line, people got the 222 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: idea that he was going to England to pick up 223 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: papers from the kids that we're going to declare all 224 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: of the enslaved persons on St. Kitts to be free. 225 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: And while this trip really was because he was hoping 226 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: to be appointed Provost Marshal of St. Kitts, Uh, the 227 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: fact that people thought there was a different purpose to 228 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: his visit continued to increase the tensions between the slaves, 229 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: the government, and the planters who owned slaves. This also 230 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: led to a rumor that the king really had freed 231 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: all the slaves, but that the planters of St. Kitts 232 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: specifically were just withholding their freedom. In addition to all 233 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: of that, there were several prominent slave owners on St. 234 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: Kitts who did decide to go ahead and emancipate their 235 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: own slaves totally before the law went into effect. All 236 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: of these things together really stoked the fires of resistance 237 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: among the enslaved population. As the August first, eighteen thirty 238 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: four date for emancipation drew closer, it was clear to 239 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: everyone involved that the enslaved people of St. Kitts were 240 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: not going to peacefully go from being slaves to being 241 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: so called apprentices who were then required to work for free. 242 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Perhaps the last straw was when the Lieutenant Governor suggested 243 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,359 Speaker 1: that even if they were freed without being apprenticed first, 244 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: the former slaves of St. Kitt would still be compelled 245 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: to work thanks to other clauses of the law. Let's 246 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: talk about exactly what happened when the August first date 247 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: arrived after another brief word from a sponsor. So as 248 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: the date of emancipation arrived on St. Kitts on the 249 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: last day of July, so the last day they were 250 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: technically still slaves. The slaves who did field work on 251 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: about a dozen of St. Kitts's largest sugar plantations dropped 252 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: their tools near the homes of the plantation managers and 253 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: then walked away. The ones who worked with livestocks stopped 254 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: their duties a couple of days later, on Saturday, August 255 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: the second. Although not all the plantations were involved, there 256 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: were more than one operations of various sizes on the island. 257 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: For the ones that were virtually all of the apprentices 258 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: stopped their work, and on many this wasn't just a 259 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: work stoppage, it was also a full protest. In the 260 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: words of William Wilson, quote on the five or six 261 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: largest there is not a single apprentice at work. Grange, 262 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: Woodley's and Bordeaux are very obstinate. On these estates there 263 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: are nearly eight hundred people, and all in a riotous way. 264 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: To again quote Wesleyan missionary James Cox quote, they only 265 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: wanted perfect personal liberty and wages, and preposterously hoped that 266 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: they may be obtained by passive disobedience and clamor. In 267 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: the plantations that no longer had a workforce, planters and 268 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: managers tried to figure out what to do. The sugar 269 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: harvest was done for the season and it was time 270 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: for the fields to be prepared for the next season, 271 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: so taking care of the animals was a much bigger concern. 272 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: These were working animals, and the sugar industry was going 273 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: to suffer if these beasts of burdens starved or died 274 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: of thirst. Some planters actually resorted to letting their cattle 275 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: graze on sugar plots, but since sugarcane is a perennial grass, 276 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: doing this pretty much destroyed that plot for the following 277 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: season's harvest. On August four, the governor announced that martial 278 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: law was going to be declared if the apprentices did 279 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: not return to their posts by the sixth, so two 280 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: days later. In the meantime, ring leaders of the strike 281 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: were found, and they were publicly lashed as both a 282 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: punishment and a threat to the people who had walked 283 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: off of the plantations. But for about the next three 284 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: weeks most of the striking apprentices did not go back 285 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: to work. They hid in the remaining rainforests on the 286 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: slopes of Mountain Misery, which is criss crossed by ravines, 287 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: and these made for really good hiding places. Some of 288 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: them found and joined up with a man known as Marcus, 289 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: King of the Woods. He was a slave who had 290 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: run away some years before, and who had been living 291 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: in the woods for several years before the emancipation began, 292 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: he became kind of a folk hero St. Kitts. As 293 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: a side note, this is actually not the first time 294 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: that Mount Misery, now now known as liam Wiga, was 295 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: the site of an uprising. In sixteen thirty nine, slaves 296 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: fled there and established a camp from which to conduct 297 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: raids on the plantations. The governor of St. Kitts gathered 298 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: five hundred armed men and went into the woods to 299 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: put down the rebellion. That was an extremely bloody event, 300 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: with many of the slaves killed in the fighting and 301 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: others drawn and quartered once it was over. It was 302 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: also the first documented slave rebellion in the Eastern Caribbean. 303 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: So to get back to eighteen thirty four, to try 304 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: and get the apprentices back to work, the government brought 305 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: in troops, burned the apprentices huts as punishment, lashed people, 306 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: and formed a skirmish line to work work their way 307 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: through the woods to look for runaways. And it was 308 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: really all of those threats combined that encouraged a lot 309 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: of those who had joined the strike to eventually go 310 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: back at the plantations. Martial law was ended on Monday, 311 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: August eighteenth, with an amnesty for anyone who had not 312 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: been sentenced for any crime related to the revolt. There 313 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: weren't any casualties reported with this revolt, however, sixteen of 314 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: the protesters were tried for sedition and mutiny as well 315 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: as inciting a rebellion. Five of them were banished to 316 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: Bermuda and six of them were lashed. Some of them 317 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: were also jailed, and the other five were apparently not punished. 318 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: The apprentices of St. Kitts were freed four Reel in 319 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: eighteen thirty eight after four years of this working as 320 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: apprentices with no pay, and afterwards, for the most part, 321 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: the people in St. Kitts kept doing the same work 322 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: as they were doing before, but this time four pay 323 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: either in money or in kind compensation like housing and food. 324 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: The sugar industry continued to be the major industry on 325 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: the island until two thousand and five, and at that 326 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: point beach sugar grown in Europe had become cheaper than 327 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: cane sugar grown in the Caribbean, and increasingly processed foods 328 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: were using corn syrups and other sweeteners instead of sugar, 329 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: so the sugar industry in St. Kitts by that point 330 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: just couldn't make ends. Meat anymore. Although the government of St. 331 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: Kitts took a number of steps to try to diversify 332 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: its economy in the face of shutting down this major industry, 333 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: more than four percent of the population lost their jobs simultaneously. 334 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: The last crop of sugarcane came in on July first, 335 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and after that point the government 336 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: shut down the whole industry. A train that was built 337 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties try to bring more efficiency to 338 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: sugar production is still there, and now it's a tourist 339 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: attraction that actually started two years before the sugar industry 340 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: was shut down. Now agriculture, tourism, and manufacturing are the 341 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: major industries on St. Kitts. Unemployment as of this recording 342 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: on St. Kitts is six point three percent. However, nearly 343 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: of the population actually live in poverty. Yeah, I had 344 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: trouble finding the exact numbers of how that shutting down 345 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: if the sugar industry affected the unemployment rate. I am 346 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: under the impression that it basically jumped from five percent 347 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: to nine and then over the last decade since then 348 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: has dropped back down closer to where it was before. 349 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: Uh the sugar industry was shut down. Uh. If you're 350 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: ever in St. Kitts, go to the museum. It's pretty awesome. 351 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: Do you, my dear, have a bit of listener to 352 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: me and we can listen to as well? Why yes, 353 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: I do. Uh. This is from a listener who signed 354 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: his email as Mr Hernandez, so that's how I'm going 355 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: to refer to him as Mr Hernandez and Mr Hernandez 356 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: rights Deer, Holly and Tracy, thank you so much for 357 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: doing a podcast on Park Mills and special education. It 358 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: was awesome. The whole episode hit very close to home 359 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: for me. I am a Hispanic man working in special 360 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: education for young children with moderate to severe autism and 361 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: behavioral issues for a large, low income school district, and 362 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: YouTube brought up some points that I just wanted to 363 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: talk about for my perspective as an educator. First, I 364 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: wanted to thank Tracy's mom for getting into adult special 365 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: education teachers and adult education get two little credit for 366 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: the vital, impactful work. She must be a great person. 367 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to write about why I got into special education, 368 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: maybe it would inspire other people to get into the field. Originally, 369 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a general and upper grades teacher 370 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 1: because I wanted to change the world, but I got 371 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: a chance to work in a classroom for students on 372 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: the autism spectrum, and I was hooked. Everything about working 373 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: in special education is amazing. We're encouraged to work creatively 374 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: with innovative technologies and one on one with their students. 375 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: All of my lessons are individualized to meet students needs 376 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: so they will have the most success and develop the 377 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: independence they deserve. No day is ever the same. I've 378 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: had opportunities to work in gen ed classrooms with students 379 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: who need help with inclusion, and mild to moderate classrooms 380 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: for students who have learning disorders, and classrooms were moderate 381 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: to severe students who give personal lot to give personalized 382 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: attention to their own emerging voice, and even in a 383 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: home care setting for a child who needed help developing 384 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: positive behaviors. Each has been rewarding in itself and fascinating. 385 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: But I have found by calling in special education for 386 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: young children with moderate severe autism, this is because it 387 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: focuses on working with helping the children and their families 388 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: to plus you see the greatest growth and empowerment in 389 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: a very short time. I love my job, but sometimes 390 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: I am treated differently because of what I look like. 391 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm a big guy six ft three and what my 392 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: wife affectionately calls barrel chested. Almost everyone has wide eyed 393 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: alarm when I get introduced as someone who works with 394 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: small children. Men usually dominate other lines of work, but 395 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: this is one job that is, as you pointed out 396 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: in the listener mail, overwhelmingly women. I found in my 397 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: personal experience there are two main preconceptions that hold back 398 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: men entering into preschool and lower grades teaching. One quote, 399 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: men aren't nurturing. When I hear this, I feel disappointed 400 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: that we have made so many strides strides to equalize 401 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: the sexes, but are still hung up on one outdated 402 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: cultural norm that men can't be nurturing because that would 403 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: imply weakness, as if being patient and protecting someone makes 404 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: you weak to men abused. This is terrifying that we 405 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: so readily stereotype something so awful, and it's the reason 406 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: I know many male educators get quietly encouraged to work 407 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: in upper grades or high school where it is less divisive. 408 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: Most decided to do just that. Those that are left 409 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: are warned ominously that if someone even plot implies something inappropriate, 410 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: our careers are over and reputations ruined. I'm sorry I 411 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: had to bring into light harsh realities, but it is 412 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: something that must be looked at with a critical eyes 413 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: so we can better gender equality and help more qualified 414 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: people enter into integral parts of education. It would be 415 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: a detriment to our society if accomplished people felt unwelcome 416 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: to any job based on their race or gender. What 417 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: is great is when I see these people get over 418 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: their misconceptions. Parents feel relieved when they know more about 419 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: me and feel comfortable to collaborate in their child's needs 420 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: and how we can address them best. A significant portion 421 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: of people with autism or boys and many of them 422 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: grow up without fathers. It makes me so proud and 423 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: a parent says they're happy their child sees me as 424 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: more than a teacher, but a role model. I would 425 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: encourage anyone who feels like they, who feels like they 426 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: like to see growth and work with people on a 427 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: personal level, to pursue a career in special education in 428 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: any of its many forms. Each is essential and rewarding. 429 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Thank you again for the informative podcast. Mr Hernandez p s. 430 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: You two had more detail on the struggles that led 431 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: to I d e a than any special education press 432 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: I ever took. How that's that's Tracy's awesome research at works, 433 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: so she gets all the kudos on that one. 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