1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Listen up, Wrap Right Out podcast, Speed Out. You know 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Selly and Wilson. Good to see you, Elliott the CB 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: dot man. A lot of changes in the world, man, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: but you're still a special young man. How are you 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: feeling the world is in? Then? We know it and 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: I feel fine. Hey, we're from Queens. We're gonna be 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: all right, yes sir, all right brother. But you know, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: out of these troubled times, man, it's even more important 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: to make that money. Man. Gotta get your hustle on 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: right absolutely with Uber, who was the ultimate side hustle. Yeah, 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I might have to do my damn self. How they's 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: kicking in. You gotta feed that baby. Kids, gotta eat 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: man the Corolla. That's how I got Russ Man. He's excited. Man. 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: It was the ultimate sile So man, driving the uper 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: is a new way you can earn extra cash whenever 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: you want, totally flexible schedule. Like I just think, if 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: you got a car, you should empower yourself even one now, 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Like you said, these crazy times in the economy, you 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to empower yourself. If you have a car, 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: get on the road, man, get your op on, man, 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: get your side hustle on Man, stack some paper, Man, 22 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: howiday is coming up? Everybody about to be broke and 23 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: beat selling mixtapes? And where eight teams? Man? So get 24 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: with Uber. Man, listen. If you do earn the extra cash, 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: there's something specially you like to buy. Your car can 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: start making you money. Man, go ahead, get your side hustle, 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: sign up, sign up to Uber today. Man, what's the website? Man? 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Go to uber dot com? Back slash? Drive now? Drive now, man, 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: not yesterday? Man, drive now? Yes sir? All right man, Uber, yep, 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: Y know, I guess it's here. Man. This guy's waiting 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: a long time to talk to me. I wait a 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: long time to talk to him. Man, Not at long. 33 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: He's got this record what they want and now you know, 34 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: now he gets to be in over that celebrity. But 35 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: he's putting a whole lot of work to get a 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: whole Russ. What's up? Russ baby? Welcome to New York Man, 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: not Russell Simmons. Man, are Uss? Are you? Since you're 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: in New York? Man? You got your Trump slippers on? 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: That was a rust line right there? Oh? Was it? Yeah? Yellow? Remember? Oh? 40 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: What did I say that you did? Wait a second, 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: there's no chance you got too many, got too many 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: raps for us. Yeah. I don't remember having said Trump 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: slippers on that was like the yeah, you dude, I 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: think because I stole Trump slippers one time. There you 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: go in my hotel. But you saw him, you saw 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: the great, the great rust last night man webst the 47 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: hall right. Actually I didn't sleeping, no, no, I had 48 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: to do my homework on you. What happened. My friend 49 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: he periscope did a little bit for we faced that. 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: So we had a rap radour think about the mezzani 51 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: from the balcony and he showed me. I was like, wow, 52 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: this is crazy that webs the hole sold out, sold out. Yeah, 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: second time so that I was at the first one 54 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: that webst the hale okay, and that was packed. I 55 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: was like wow, yeah yeah, yeah, who is the skuy? Right? 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: But how did you do it? Rust? Assistance, bro persistence 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: and self belief? Like you know, I put out eleven 58 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: projects before I even got a SoundCloud. You know what 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like all self produce makes mass engine everything 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: you name all eleven, Velvet Apile, thir Team, Straight from 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Limbo eight, Vacation, The Edge, color Blind, Pink, Elephant Brain, 62 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: Dead Silence had to rob you. Are they all available? Yeah, 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: you can get all of them? Crazy, So do you 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: find fans that really know every all of them? Yeah? 65 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Well that's why I like, that's why I have real fans, 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: hardcore fans, because they're like, we've been with you since 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: the album days, like since the mixtape days, you know 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like, yeah, I did you know, 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: I went to Belgium before I even had a SoundCloud 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: and sold out people I'm saying, so like I've been 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: doing this, but I had to switch up to the 72 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: approach because I really I was still in the basement 73 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: with the thousand followers though, you know what I'm saying 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: in Atlanta and then you traveled everywhere. Yeah, now, but 75 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: like in Atlanta, I've been in Atlanta for like twelve years. 76 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, Like then I was like, you know, I 77 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: got to switch up to the approach to get different results. 78 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: So I was all right, let me do let me 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: put out just as much content, but in a different 80 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: way because I was dropping three albums a year, so 81 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I was still dropping fifty songs type of type of thing. Yeah, 82 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: right right, because on my DMX, like I'm at the 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: topic yeah. Now, But then I was like, you know what, 84 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: let me do a song a week until I blow up. 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: That was my mindset. I was like, yeah, I was like, 86 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on the debut and I'm not going 87 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: to drop it because I was like, look, I'm not 88 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: dropped in another project on deaf years, like, because it 89 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: got to the point where I was like, no, I 90 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: think this is too good to just keep dropping without 91 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: real like years. I was like, you know what, I'm 92 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna drop a song a week until I blow up. 93 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: That's it just started one and yeah, and you know, 94 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: I just put out a song again like two days ago, 95 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: three days ago, so like I still like keep up 96 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: with it, like being on tours harder, but I did 97 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: just get the studio on the road. So I saw 98 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: that you tweeted in August you said something like that 99 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: life wasn't like this for you six months ago. What 100 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: was life like? Bro? I mean I was I don't 101 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: know even you remember, but like October CMJ takeover things. 102 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I was like I was opening for like J, like 103 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: trying to. And I came out and I was like, yo, 104 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: like what's good? Whatever? My name is us? Blah blah blah, 105 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: but like I was opening for like you know people 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: at S O B S and like a hundred people, 107 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like in February of this year, 108 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: and so for it to like bet November and sell 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: out for tangent people website all about myself. It is like, well, 110 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: you said in Atlanta your homecoming show, there was like 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: four people in the crowd at one point. Oh yeah, 112 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: literally four people. That's why I have a line wise, 113 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: I know what it's like to do a show with 114 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: less people in the crowd than the ones on stage, 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because it's like that's why 116 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate everything. That's why I like I have the 117 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: mental fortitude, like I feel like I'm really dote for this, 118 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like because I went through 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: the downs like and made it out, you know what 120 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, So like I'm gonna be here for a 121 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: long time. So you also, you did it without any 122 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: coast on, so people think you got a chip on 123 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: your shoulder because of that, Like I mean, yeah, I 124 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: put myself on. So it's like I think there's naturally 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: gonna come like a chip on the should. The mentality 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: with that especially too, I was I was watching so 127 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: many people get put on who had three songs out, 128 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: These people who put songs out and two weeks later, 129 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: like they got a picture of Kanye. You know what 130 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like that's when I started getting this 131 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: this Dane and like fun the media type of thing 132 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: because it's like, yo, I can see that it's a 133 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: corrupt system. It doesn't reward hard work and it doesn't 134 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: reward talent. You know what I'm saying, Like the media 135 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: doesn't now that people do because the people have elected 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: me now to be this thing, right, but the media 137 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: had never voted for me or elected me. The media 138 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: was rewarding politics and it still does and I think 139 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: it always will. And that's the issue I have, you 140 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like these people will put two 141 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: songs out about it's like and fake independence, critical that 142 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: you truly or before you just ink with Columbia Partnership 143 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: the independent journey was really I was like the thing 144 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: with that is like I was really actually independent. So 145 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: like a lot of these people are like independent, but 146 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: they have major money behind them. Yeah you're independent, but 147 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: you got two million dollars Synth into you or your 148 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: dad knows this person, or your cousin is for LSE 149 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Business mag or something like that. You know what I'm saying, Like, 150 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you're not independent. What I'm saying Like I was independent. 151 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I knew nobody what I'm saying. I sat in my 152 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: basement for six years making songs, you know what I'm saying, Like, 153 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: and it finally got popping because I was putting out 154 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: a song a week that I was producing, mixing mass 155 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: Andenergin and everything. I was even shooting my own videos. 156 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: Me and my boy was shooting our own video or whatever. 157 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Eggar didn't come in. So like this year, you know 158 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Before that, I had twenty videos out 159 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that I shot, and you know what I'm saying, Like 160 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I would put the camera on a tripod and just 161 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: stand there in the basement and like one of those 162 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: videos has like tenmillion views. And now it's like I 163 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: was really really independent. People say that they're independent, but 164 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the first project has like big name rappers on. It's like, 165 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm independent, Like how independent are you? What I'm saying, 166 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: how do you know him that you're independent? But you 167 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: got videos with like you know, X Y and Z rappers. 168 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: How you do that? You know what I'm saying, You 169 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: don't see you with No, I don't know. Do you 170 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: not want to work with anybody in particular or no, 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: it's not even that. It's just like I don't know y'all. 172 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, but I didn't do 173 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: a BT ciphers. Ye were in the same room. Now, 174 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I like, I mean, I like some people, 175 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: but it's like I'm not going to go out of 176 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: my way, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm doing 177 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: my own thing, but I like, you know, people have 178 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: reached out, Like I like people. I don't like hate everyone, 179 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: but you give a lot of people props. Actually I'm 180 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: also the biggest like like if it's something like I'm 181 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: the biggest supporter of it, you know what I'm saying, 182 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm not like I'm not one of those people 183 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: who was too cool to not be a fan. Like 184 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm a fan, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm 185 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: a massive fan of Kanye, massive fan of Drake called 186 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: the warm Up mass Like, yeah, I'm a fan of 187 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of like projects though too, like massive 188 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: fan of the warm Up, massive fan of the Marathon 189 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: by Nipsey massive fan of the Kendrick EP, like I 190 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: was super early on Kendrick when he had like three 191 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: K followers, and like we read his first show in 192 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta and Ali used to make my ship like back 193 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: when he was like a hundred dollars and mix ship 194 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: and he was like you know what I'm saying, Like 195 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: now he's probably taxing for like twenty racks. Yeah, of 196 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: course worked for it. Like now I'm a fan of 197 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: people too, but like no one ever put me on. 198 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: No one gave me a coast and I wasn't looking 199 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: for And that's where like a song like doing Myself 200 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: came from. Was like fuck it, I gotta do myself. 201 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody you said on that one. Everyone's 202 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: scared to be number one. Yeah, everyone's like because what 203 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: I started realizing too, Like I studied this ship. I'm 204 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: a Psychoandy, And I've watched all the rapperators, all the 205 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: clever interviews, all the evil in the mornings, Like I'm 206 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: a psycho, you know what I'm saying, Like the how 207 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: was that kid? Like who was like the game like 208 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: you can't stop, but you don't see coming. No one 209 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: saw me coming. But I was sitting there like a 210 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: like premeditated six years psycho. You know what I'm saying, 211 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: Like just in the like in the shadows, like watching 212 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: people like a crazy person taking notes, you know what 213 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like I started noticing with people's interviews 214 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: and everything, like and how they would be moving is 215 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: like they're so scared to be number one. They're so 216 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: scared to be like, no, I don't want it. It's 217 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: like what, like, yeah, you do. What are you talking about? 218 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that as a kid, when you like, 219 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I want to be a rapper when I grow up, 220 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: you said I want to be the number four rapper 221 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: in the world. That's what you said to yourself. You're lying. 222 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: What's happened is that you've realized that maybe that's not 223 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: in your cards. So now you gotta act like that's 224 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: okay or you don't want it. And you don't want it. 225 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: You talk about them in your heart, how you want 226 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: to have songs that play at the garden and things 227 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: like yeah, that's crazy, that's old, that's from a project, 228 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: that's epic that you know that I'm listening. Yeah, yeah, 229 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: is short, Like that's like I'm not scared to be 230 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: number one. I want the most number one singers of 231 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: all time. I want the most number one albums of 232 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: all time. I want to do I'm doing the Garden 233 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: next year. You know what I'm saying. Like, and I 234 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: don't care, Like I'm not I'm not scared to like 235 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: fall in my face if it doesn't work. You know 236 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm I was the kid in high 237 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: school who every test I took the second teacher handed 238 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: it to me. I was writing a hundred at the 239 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: top of the best. All my teachers, that's all my 240 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: teachers know. Where does the confidence come from? My dad 241 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: was always just the biggest ship talking in the world too, 242 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But it was always like it's 243 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: an irremovable thing. I think you're born with. It's like 244 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: a stain. Yeah, yeah, where do you think that? Things 245 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: started to really click for you when he was putting 246 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: out the string of music. When the label started calling. 247 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: The label started calling like last year, like August July. 248 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: It would be like, like, we're the industry people reaching 249 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: out like whatever, That's why That's why I made what 250 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: they want Because I was like noticing this influx of 251 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: people I didn't know from anywhere, and it was all right, 252 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: but like I know what y'all want, you know what 253 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But the like real label cars didn't like 254 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: start to like uh May June July this year, that's 255 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: when it was like, you know, but what was it? 256 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: Like a specific song that was like, no, that's the thing, 257 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: because that's what I prided myself on. And like, well, 258 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: y'all at the last website, I'll show or yeah, I mean, 259 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: y'all see, like my catalog gets chanted. What I'm saying, 260 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: I do an hour forty five minutes on stage and 261 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: every song gets chanted. So like it wasn't just one song. 262 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: My catalog blew, you know what I'm saying. Like I 263 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: have your favorite artist discography on my SoundCloud, you know 264 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like I have a career's worth 265 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: of music already out that's what blue. Like, it wasn't 266 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: just one thing, Like I got sixty songs with over 267 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: a million plays, Like yeah, what they want has thirty million, 268 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: but like there's hell of songs with a million, you 269 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like it was just you know, 270 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: so what they what they want different Why did that 271 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: become the thing that people's entry point to your catalog? 272 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it was like that it 273 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: was pulling trigger, was losing control. I don't know. It's 274 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: just the melody bananas on what they want to talk about, 275 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: the post making song. But take us into how you create, 276 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: because you create so quickly? Right, why create so quickly? 277 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Because I don't have to call anybody? You know what 278 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You gotta understand, like like every other artist 279 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: like has to walk in get the beat from this person. 280 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Like that's a whole other messa. I couldn't even imagine that. Bro, 281 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, are you serious? So 282 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: you got to do that first? Then you gotta get 283 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: someone to record you. You gotta get someone the engineer 284 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: the session. Then you gotta get someone to mix it afterwards. 285 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: And this is all like because you don't do those tasks, 286 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: they can lie to you and say that it takes 287 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: two weeks to turn around a mix and a whole 288 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: bunch of stupid ship that makes my ship. As I'm going, 289 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so like when I'm done recording the song, 290 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: the song is done, you know what I mean? So 291 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: like that's why I turn around so quick like yourself 292 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: all this, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, it was It 293 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: was a you know, it's a it's a survival mechanism. 294 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: If I give you weed, a lighter in a in 295 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: papers in the desert, you tell me you're not gonna 296 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: get high, better figure out how to roll, you know 297 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's the mentality though. It's like 298 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to make songs and I didn't know how 299 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: to make songs, so I needed to figure out how 300 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: to make songs. And I didn't know these titles mixers, 301 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: master's engineers. I was just like I always had sounds 302 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: in my head and ideas in my head, and I 303 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: just had to figure out how to get to that. 304 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: Not later on people like, oh, like you engineered this 305 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: whole thing too, and you make something like I don't 306 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: even know what that means, but sure did that, but 307 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: now like I know what it means whatever. But it 308 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: was always just like buy any means necessary, I gotta 309 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: make it about maintaining some level of full control or 310 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: just's not find to write collaborators. It was literally because 311 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: I knew no one like That's what I'm saying, Like 312 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: I was a kid in the basement. I didn't have 313 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: any industry connections. None of my friends like knew how 314 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: to do anything. So it was like it was a 315 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: survival mechanism. It was like, no one is going to 316 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: do for me. That's still the due of myself mentality. 317 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: No one was like, no one has any information that 318 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: I need that can teach me. So like I gotta 319 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: do it myself, you know what I'm saying, So to 320 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: learn Garageman learned garage man, learn logic, you know what 321 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that's what I've done. Everything on now 322 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: is logic. But yeah, man, He's just like you have 323 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: to you have to do. You have to deal with 324 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: the resources that you have currently until you get the 325 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: other ship. And you dropped out of school to make music, correct, Yeah, 326 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: I dropped that. It's crazy because dropped out of costs 327 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: to make beats. I wasn't even making songs, which seems 328 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: so out of control. It's like I tried out of 329 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: school to make beats. Like, I know, you're real close 330 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: with your mom, so how did she She was upset 331 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: for like a long time, like she like supported it, 332 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: but she was definitely like every day like I wish 333 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: you would go back to school. I wish you would 334 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: go back to school. But you know, you start doing 335 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: like you started doing like epic things in life off 336 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: this music ship, like serious money starts coming in like 337 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: those like she hasn't she hasn't talked to me about 338 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: school and talking about was the iTunes checks and exactly. 339 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: But it's crazy because it used to That's what I'm saying. Though. 340 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: It used to be like when you're going back to class, 341 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: and now it turned into like, yo, it's Friday, so 342 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: like iTunes Spotify. Like didn't you get supposed to be 343 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: kind of rewarded to be able to buy her a 344 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: car on your birthday or to ring to Italy for 345 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: the first time? Yeah, yeah, that was both. It was crazy. 346 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: But then that's also when I realized that I picked 347 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: the right thing to do with my life, because I 348 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: was sitting there looking at unbelievable views that people like 349 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: have on their bucket list type of ship. You know 350 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that that people would die to see. 351 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: And I got my mom with me too, and I'm 352 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: sitting there like looking at the g n C and Sanderini, 353 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Greece with my mom next to me, and I'm like, 354 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: I just want to make a song. I want to live, 355 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was like, Wow, I 356 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: picked the right thing because I have the money and 357 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: I have the epic like memories and the traveling this whatever. 358 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: But it's like I was like, now, you know what, 359 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the best view in the world is dirty as microphone 360 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: and the dirty a face fit, you know what I'm saying. 361 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: We were talking thinking more about signing fatigue. Some people 362 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: they get the deal and that's the victory, right, Well, 363 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: that's that's what they were doing it for. Kind of 364 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: like people in the NBA. Once they get to the league, 365 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: they like they're done. So it separates like Kobe from 366 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, Corns a French right, right, But how much 367 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: did Columbia player role and making what they want as 368 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: successful as it is? Yeah? I mean, you know, I 369 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: like when I partner with them, right, It's very important 370 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: that people know it's a part of you know what 371 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because a lot of these a lot of 372 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: these rappers have no leverage. They dropped one song and 373 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: signed a deal, you know what I'm saying, Like, you 374 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: get like you got a terrible royalty rate deal. You 375 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You've got no money upfront, you 376 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: got probably no version on your master's You know what 377 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I gotta talk, I gotta prophet. I 378 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: got a fifty fifty deal. You know what I'm saying. 379 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: Why Because I came into the deal making a hundred 380 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: racks a month off my music already. You know what 381 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, I came in already charting on iTunes 382 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: top fifty. I came in selling out my tours by 383 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: myself already. I came in with Caro lew Is, the 384 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: greatest book and age in the world. I came in 385 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Kylie was already playing my ship on a snap. You 386 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So Like, and I had the 387 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: whole music thing on lock. I had my graphic designers unlocked. 388 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I had my video team unlock. You're gonna give me 389 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: whatever the funk I tell you to give me at 390 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: that point, you know what I'm saying, Because you want 391 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: in on this, because I am. I'm I'm moving like 392 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: I'm on my own label. You want it, you should 393 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: want it. But like we're going to make sure that 394 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: it's a partnership because I don't need that much, So 395 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: what do they add helping you get on radio? Saying 396 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: that's really that was the big decision, was like I 397 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: want to get on radio. I was looking around all 398 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: my favorite artists, and I'm like, you all got labels. 399 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: All y'all on the radio, but you all got labels. 400 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: So I was all right, I need a level of 401 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: playing field. That's how I looked at it. Wow, if 402 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: you think, what that what they want is that perfect 403 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: song to be that? Yeah? I think and I think 404 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: there's a there's an old interview with Jane M and 405 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: M where they're like, you know, you can try and 406 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: pick singles, but the people are gonna pick it period. 407 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: And that's the that's the beauty of having this catalog 408 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: on SoundCloud. It's not difficult to pick a single. There's 409 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: no more guessing game. The Internet eliminated the guessing game 410 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: for labels, like, oh, I don't know what the single 411 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: should be, Well go to your SoundCloud and pick the 412 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: one with the most place and take that start there, 413 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And then go down the list, Well, 414 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: what's what's the next single gonna be the one with 415 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: thirty two million players instead thirty you know, what I'm 416 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: saying is like you eliminate the guessing games, so like 417 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: people pick those songs whatever. So I mean, I don't 418 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: want to see your successes and anomaly because there's so 419 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: many people in SoundCloud things like that, Like what mistakes 420 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: do you think that they make that I guess don't 421 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: replicate the same success that you have. Lack of consistency 422 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: and lack of quality music. A lot of people suck. 423 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: They're not that great period. So you really of that minded. 424 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: If you are dope no matter what, you could be 425 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: in basement anywhere, you're gonna get recognized because you're gonna 426 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: make good ships and people are gonna find if you 427 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: do it consistently and you have the right approach. Because 428 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: I was. I had dope content always from like the 429 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Pink Elephant, like the last like the last like four 430 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: albums were like solid stuff. Like I still perform some 431 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: of those songs and they get chanted whatever whatever. But 432 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: it was the wrong approach, you know what I'm saying. 433 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: So like you got to figure out the approach that 434 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: works for you. Some people can't put out a song 435 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: every week because they don't record that much, they don't 436 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: have access whatever. But you gotta figure out some approach 437 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: where you can stay consistent. Two weeks on the internet 438 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: is like two months. You know what I'm saying, Like 439 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: move so fast. That's why I was like, I gotta 440 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: be in your face every week. You forget about things 441 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: so quick. People drop albums and in a month, you 442 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: don't even know what's going on. Like it's a shame 443 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: because it would be good music, like Frank Ocean's album 444 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: was good, but like Boom. I mean, that's the biggest 445 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: challenge I think for creatives. It's like you can create 446 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: a moment, but how do you sustain that? You sustain? Yeah, 447 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: for sure, what you sustain the moment moment by having hits. 448 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: That's how you sustain. But you're not defined by one record. 449 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah you have hits though, you know what I'm saying, 450 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Like you drop a dope album. But if your album 451 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: has no hits and you don't, you got a tour too. 452 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: But it's like hits are kind of what keep things alive. 453 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: They're still playing one dance, they're still playing controller, which 454 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: therefore keeps views alive, you know what I'm saying. But like, 455 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: you drop an album and there's no hits, and you 456 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: don't tow its like, all right, so I had a 457 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: week in the internet, But how do you avoid the 458 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: outsides that don't know? Like you have all these people 459 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: that the law base that knows who you are and 460 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: knows everything, but the people just coming into what they 461 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: want party and that you don't become the what they want? Man, Yeah, 462 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: well how exactly. That's definitely concerned. But then you got 463 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: to realize, like when you would when these people would 464 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: drop two songs right, and then you're like, oh, there 465 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: is this new artist and you're typing the name on Google, 466 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: two songs gonna pop up. That's it. You can't even 467 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: become a fan of that person. Don't have enough songs 468 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: to be someone's favorite artists. That's what I said and 469 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: exposed me. You type, you find what they want. You 470 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: go type in my name. You're gonna find eleven albums 471 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: in nineties songs. You're going to be a psycho fan. 472 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't ever get 473 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: fans where it's like oh yeah, like he just has 474 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: that what they want song that maybe is That's how 475 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people get introduced. But that's not where 476 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: it ends because there's such a deep rabbit hole of 477 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: a catalog, you know what I'm saying, Like I have, 478 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: like my fans have the ability to really go deep 479 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: and become an instant hardcore fan because of how deep 480 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the catalog is. How do you keep that connection with 481 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: the fans outside of the music, How do you care 482 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: about you? I literally think I'm the most psycho artist 483 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: because I literally talked to all my fans. I gotta stop, 484 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: like like my managers like yo, like because I'll be 485 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: like clapping back and fans like popping in their d 486 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: ms like yo, the funk are you talking about psycho ship? 487 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Like I just like I just had to put my 488 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: snapsot on private like three days ago because like I'd 489 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: been responding to everyone's saying like good ship, bash it whatever. 490 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: But then like the screenshots are starting to have more 491 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: like it's crazy, but like I really I really talked 492 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to my fans, you know what I'm saying. Like on tour, 493 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: most people cap their meeting greets, right, they do ten 494 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: meet grease every show. I was like, funk that I'm 495 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: not caving anything, So I do greets everyone. You know 496 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, it's it's 497 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: a vibe, but you don't get bothered by it like 498 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: comments or YouTube comments. I just told you I stack 499 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: and because what's the last thing to really piss you off? 500 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Someone just did it on the way here. They said 501 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: something stupid as they say. They were like, don't podcast no, 502 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: because I tweeted like, oh, life improves when you put 503 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: your snapshot on private and some kids like quota of 504 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: the treatment was like, uh is this are you serious? 505 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Like talking about all these other people being something like 506 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: didn't even make any sense talking to I was like, bro, 507 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: you talking about like what are you talking about? But 508 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: we gotta give you problems for the lyrical uh lyrical 509 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: bill of these. I was listening to the record bat Cave. 510 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it was going wow, that's super yeah, 511 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: but me for the BT cipher to that record, just 512 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: other records about your catalog, Like what's your approach when 513 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: you're writing? Uh, it's usually like it's usually either I'm 514 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna like completely sing to you, I'm gonna completely give 515 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: you bars or like I mean, there's the mixture where 516 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: it's like I'll do a hook and then I'll wrap 517 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: in between those. Usually the ones that go crazy like 518 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: pull the Trigger where it's like, that's my ideal hip 519 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: hop song though hard ass beat, catchy hook and hard 520 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: as raps. You know, I'm from the fifty eminem where 521 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: all the beasts with Dr J slapping as beats, all 522 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: the hooks for catching ship and they would kill the verses. 523 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: That's what hip hop is missing. No one does that anymore. 524 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: How do you write good hooks? How did you become 525 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: a good hook for melodic? Yeah? I mean I was 526 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: always listening to such uh melody influenced music. I mean 527 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: there's a quote where it's like, what's music without melody? 528 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Rapp is the one genre, the only genre that I 529 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: can think of that you can walk into the studio 530 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: and never do a melody and it's still considered a song. 531 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: No other genre you're gonna walk into the studio and 532 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: be able to get away with not doing a melody. 533 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: Name a genre, you gotta do a melody. So like, 534 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: I was always listening to every other type of music, 535 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: and then that's why my introduction to hip hop was 536 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: g Unit and fifty send Eminem. It was an easy 537 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: segue because they were doing melodies. Fifties one of the 538 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: most melodic rappers. Eminem is one of the most melodic rappers, 539 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: so it was easy. I think I was just like, 540 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: it's in my subconscious at this point. What artists did 541 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: you listen to on side? But my parents would have 542 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: like earth Wind and Fireplane and and Mama's and Papers 543 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: and Journey and led Zeppelin and lend a Skinner, But 544 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: then like b GS and then I would listen to 545 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: singer songwriter stuff like John Mayer and Jack Johnson and whatever. 546 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: But then I'd be listening to Tupac and d m X, 547 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: and but Tupac and d m X super melodic rappers 548 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: like the Cadences and everything with bananas, like so you know, 549 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Kanye was super melodic. I didn't get into jay Z 550 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: till I was like sixteen seventeen because the content was 551 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: too crazy and also it wasn't it wasn't catching my 552 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: ear from a melodic standpoint because he was not like 553 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: focused too much on the melody aspect, the verses and 554 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: ship you know what I'm saying. So like, but jay 555 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Z is obviously super dope. But I was always more 556 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: like intrigued by the melody stuff, and it was like 557 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: it just so happened that I naturally liked all the 558 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: stuff that was the biggest ship in hip hop. I 559 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: liked the hit sounding ship, I liked all falls Down, 560 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: I liked in the club. Yeah, I like that. Though. 561 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: You said in the interview that you're like, if Drake 562 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: isn't your your favorite of number one, like you're just 563 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: lying to yourself or something, you know, I said, I said, 564 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: if you don't think Drake is number one, you're watching 565 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: a different basketball game. Because it's not like it's not 566 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: even an opinion based argument. It's like, look at the numbers. 567 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: That's like saying this person scored thirty five, this person 568 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: scored forty, but he did better. That doesn't make any sense. 569 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: He scored more points. There's nothing to talk about. So 570 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: you're saying that you feel like that the whole hype 571 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: of how people can sunodly record stell records anymore is bullshit. 572 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: You look at Drake, at Drake, look at Cold Cells Records, 573 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: Kendrick Sells records. You know what I'm saying, Like, mediocre 574 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: music never sold and it never will. And the thing 575 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: is with the Internet, it's so much more accessible. The 576 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: craft is so much more accessible. So you have this 577 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: influx of like so much media mediocrity, So like you 578 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: have a distorted perception of hip hop not selling. It's like, no, 579 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: there's just not that much great hip hop, you know 580 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like the balances, it's the 581 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: scales are tilted, you know what I'm saying. It's like 582 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: it's way more there's way more waxed than there ever was. 583 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: So like you might be thinking hip hop doesn't sell 584 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: because for every thirty albums that come out a year 585 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: of hip hop, there's one really good when the rest 586 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: is mediocre. So you start thinking, oh, it's not gonna sell. 587 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: So what role does people like us have of curating music? 588 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: Do we still matter in that process? You guys? As 589 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: it as writers tastements, however you want to define us 590 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: as y'all have the ability to to give the right 591 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: people platforms that And that's the issue that I have 592 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: with the media is that the media doesn't The media 593 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: goes off of what labels are telling them. Who the 594 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: little politics or I've known him from back in the 595 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: day and this ship, like y'all shouldn't be doing write 596 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: ups like everyone should be doing a rite upon me. Period. 597 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,239 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck at all anymore because my 598 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: fucking fan base is bigger than all these publications. But 599 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: everyone should be doing a write upon me because I'm 600 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: the first of Like, you need to do an article 601 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: on the new species you just discovered. Period? How would 602 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: you define that species? No one ever has produced mixed 603 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: master engineer written everything they've ever done. Everyone hip hop ever, 604 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: do you need to be talked about? That needs to 605 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: be talked about. That needs to be the narrative, not 606 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: this other stupid ship, and not even just for me 607 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: and my fucking ego whatever, but so that the next 608 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: kid coming up feels like, you know what, Oh, he 609 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: did everything himself and he taught himself everything. Maybe I 610 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: can too. The media like promotes these fairy tale last 611 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: stories like just dropped one song and like see, you know, 612 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm in a picture with Kanye. That's not realistic that, 613 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: it's like that, that's that's not encouraging, that's not inspiring that. 614 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: But is it? Because we like the like we get 615 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: caught up in either the trend of the phenomenon at 616 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: the moment, the moment this is the Mannequin challenge, whatever 617 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: it is, like whatever the thing is. Yeah, but it's 618 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: just like my thing is like I don't blame the 619 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: people for for co signing wack ship and like these 620 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: songs for the summer ship that's been going on since 621 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: I was whatever, like and I get it because you 622 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: can turn up to it whatever whatever. The issue that 623 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I have is the media in the industry co signing 624 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: as if y'all don't know this ship is what it is. 625 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like this is y'all's professional, 626 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Like y'all know this is whack. Y'all know it's not 627 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: going to be here by wintertime. So like you know 628 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, These are seasonal last rappers. You know 629 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like for real, like they here one 630 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: season and gone the next. So it's like the media 631 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: should know better. I don't blame I don't blame like, 632 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, the fucking four year old for for not 633 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: being able to solve calculus, but the calculus teachers should 634 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: know how to solve calculus. You know what I'm saying. 635 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: It's like that's my that's my my Grapecause you think 636 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: part of your successes is the fact that you've had 637 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: the drive to go against that that you haven't had that. 638 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's what like, it's crazy because I used 639 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: to be the kid that was I saw your email. 640 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I used to be emailing all these blogs I found. 641 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I found the old email. He literally is eating wind 642 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: the rappertor that com ha. My name is Russe, I'm 643 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: twenty years old. Here's my new album. I wrote and 644 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: produced and arranged everything. Check it out, simple as that. 645 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: And I was doing that with everyone I know, all 646 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: these writers and ship all the places, checking in boxes. Bro. 647 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's like, if you're like any writer at 648 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: any of these publications, they type in us on the 649 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: email like ship ton of emails are gonna pop up. 650 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: But some people like you, I think it's a picture 651 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: with you and sway you said, That's what I'm saying, 652 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: because yeah, Rob Markman is the homie and swayed Like, 653 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: I respect those people a bunch because at the end 654 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: of the day, they fussed with the music when they 655 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: didn't have to, you know what I'm saying, and like 656 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: and and I respect that because there's a lot of 657 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of bloggers and ship we're gonna 658 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: wait for someone else to talk about it, right, But like, 659 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: you shouldn't need someone else to talk about it if 660 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: it's dope, because when there's wax ship going on, you 661 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: right about it in a second, as if it's the 662 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: new fucking hot ship. But you know it's whack. But 663 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: it's just safe for to talk about that because everyone 664 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: else is talking about it, you know what I'm saying, Like, 665 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: that's that's my issue. You have some fucking some fucking 666 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: balls and be like, you know what, maybe no one 667 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: else is talking about this, but that doesn't mean it's bad. 668 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: That means that everyone's asleep. Do you get You get 669 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: an extra kick out of proving people wrong? And that, Yeah, 670 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 1: for sure, we gotta get rust on the wrap rate 671 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: our podcasting, you nowocking you know I do. But it's 672 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: like it's also like there's certain there are certain like 673 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: figures that I do respect because it's just uh, reputation, 674 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like funk with you all 675 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: because I've been on about y'all. Yeah yeah, yeah, But 676 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I mean, I get a kick out 677 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: of being like, oh yeah, now, y'all got me all 678 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: rapp right, you know what I mean? But it's like 679 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: it's like it's not about that, you know what I'm 680 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: saying like you can't. I feel like you can't walk 681 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: around the game with such a like emotional like baggage 682 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: of like funk all y'all, Like it's like not healthy, 683 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you know, I work 684 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: on that every day. You also talk about the lack 685 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: of originality, like the trigger you mentioned. You said, why 686 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: everybody sound like they want to be from facts and 687 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: you're from Atlanta facts? But what do you make of that? 688 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: And then how did you never become part of that 689 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: fraternity in any sense? It was just like number one Dad, 690 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: the like the sound of Atlanta was never really uh 691 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: something that I was super into, Like I said, like 692 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: I was, I was listening in the fifty eminem and 693 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: like those type of beats, the ninety two VPM with 694 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: the hardass hitting drums and the sick hooks and the 695 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: flows and people like really rapping and saying ship, Like 696 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: not that people in Atlanta are rapping the same ship, 697 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: but like outcast was that, you know what I'm saying, 698 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: Like t I s and like ludicrous was super dope, 699 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: and then like there's so much ship that's just like 700 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: it's brainless. It's just like I get you played in 701 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: the club's cool, but like then everyone just trying to 702 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: do that and ride that wave. And it's just I'm 703 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: just about everyone being the best them they can be, 704 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: and these people just trying to regurgitate sounds and ship. 705 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: It's just like that's you can do better, you know 706 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm just about people doing better. 707 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: Like hip hop used to be so much dope it 708 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like, really what happened though people blame it 709 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: on the rappers, Like I blame it on the fact 710 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: that the rappers are not making the music. The producers, 711 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: the dope producers before you came in. You can't blame 712 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: it on the rap You're not the ones making the music. 713 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Like if I get handed thirty trap beasts, what am 714 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I supposed to do? You know what I'm saying, If 715 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: you're not handing me dope shit. But like Dre left, 716 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Storage left, Timberlan Kinny, I'm saying, all the legends kind 717 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: of like not as active, not as active as we 718 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: would like. And those are my favorite producers right there, 719 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But like they kind of 720 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: took a step back. So now who we left with, right? 721 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Not great stuff and Also the thing I think that 722 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: people looking at you like there was a thing that 723 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: cold struggle with. Right, if you are self containing, you 724 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: are the producer, It's like, can you get your credit 725 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: as a producer because you only hear yourself over you? Okay, 726 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: so now you have to get these tracks of other 727 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: people to get your validation. Here's where the media comes 728 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: into play. Y'all can help portray the narrative instead, like 729 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Billboard rapp right, all these people, y'all need to do 730 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: articles on me about how I produced makes that needs 731 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: to be the articles that needs to because that's where 732 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: you can push that narrative, like the narrative of Col's 733 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: album with no features that got pushed, you know what 734 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like that's where the media comes in 735 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: because you'll have an ability to push certain narratives, you 736 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like as opposed to just talking 737 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: about others stupid ship, like push that narrative. Don't talk 738 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: to me about this ship, don't do an article on 739 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: like you know what girl was I talking about? And losing? 740 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like to talk to 741 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: me about the fucking narrative, Like why I'm here like 742 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: to beneath the service. Producing makes some masks everything, you 743 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, that's where the media can 744 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: come into play. But to answer that, what do you 745 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: think you get your respect as the producer because we 746 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: only hear you you being over. I also like I 747 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: also made it a super big point even on the albums, 748 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: I would always be dropping my ship with in parentheses 749 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: produced for us, and every song on my SoundCloud parentheses 750 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: produced for us. So like I feel like everyone knows 751 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: that with me because it's like I've pushed it. I've 752 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: done as much as I can on my end to 753 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: push it. But like I said, that's where the media 754 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: can come in. And you can sit down with these 755 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: magazines or whatever and you do a whole interview and 756 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: article and that's the narrative, you know what I'm saying, 757 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: Like cover of this magazine the Real d I Y produced, 758 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You could really you can 759 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: push that narrative if you want, But a lot of 760 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: people are scared, you know what I'm saying, a lot 761 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: of these media people are scared of it. So if 762 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: I actually who's keianare me? Oh my god? That just 763 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: took me? My god, that is so epic. She's whatever, 764 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: she sucks, But she was actually like all my girls 765 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: were like cool, they all have potential, but they were 766 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: just like, uh, not mentally ready. You know what I'm saying. 767 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Like she was dope, but you know, ship happens. A 768 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: lot of people just play themselves because they don't know 769 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: what the is going on. She ever heard that record, 770 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: of course, you know what's crazy. She wanted to be 771 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: a producer, so uh, you know, she would become to 772 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: the studio, me whatever whatever. She found that sample right 773 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: that was like she found that sample. And when I 774 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: first made that song, I did the hook with her 775 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: right there. That's why the hook was like this really 776 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: nice and jelly, you are my girl. And then when 777 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: the ship went down, whatever I did the verses, I 778 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: was spashing her. That's why at the end of each 779 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: first I wrote this hook, who I wrote the verse 780 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: that mother? You know what I'm saying. That's how like 781 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm petty, you know what I'm saying, Like, who's speaking of? Goodbye? 782 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: Gonna call you from the Grammys too, goodbyes, Yeah, goodbyes. 783 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: The poor chick. What's crazy is like her in Kiana 784 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: and I are like best friends in the finding over 785 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: the fact that I get them in the video the 786 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: day I met my palace in the video. The first 787 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: time I met Paala was when she was in the video, 788 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: the video that I sent you in that email, she's 789 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: in that video. Wow. Wow, that's a great trick. That's 790 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: a good song and something you were saying, it's hard 791 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: now for you not to write this from the CE 792 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: celebratory vide now because you've been single now and you 793 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: had these heart break moments. What I'm saying, i'd be 794 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: looking for him though, I think stuff is from that too, right, 795 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: because it's like he's not going through that like take 796 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: care of drakes of like the vulnerability about records about women. 797 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: It's more confidence and it's harder to like it's harder 798 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: to make those loser control type of songs or whatever, 799 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: because my songs are about my life. So if I'm 800 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: not going through that, but like you know something, it's 801 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: just it's more of a challenge, which is fun. So 802 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: you gotta like kind of like think back and pull 803 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: back and like look at maybe past situations definitely be like, oh, shoot, 804 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: you know what this was actually going on to like 805 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: this is a different take on it, so's Psycho to right, 806 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: like Psycho part two, that was a different take. I 807 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: have Psycho the obviously part one, but that was a 808 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: different take. But there's also like a situation right now 809 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: where like I try to put myself in like Psycho 810 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: six months, miserably beautiful relationship situations. What's the vibe just honestly, 811 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: just for what's the vibe overseas? I mean I've seen 812 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: you in Africa and Europe and the crowds are crazy. 813 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: They almost look crazier than they are here in America. 814 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't get it, you know what I'm saying. 815 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: They don't at artists like that, like l A, New York, 816 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: there's a show every night, right, rappers in your city 817 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: every night in New York, l A. That was mer unicorn. 818 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Tunisia, You're a unicorn. I 819 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: did a show in Bay Route. You're a unicorn, you 820 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like for beyrout is three thousand 821 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: people sold out, Belgium was eleven people. Like it's crazy 822 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: over then, the like the fandom is so like you 823 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: really feel like a superstar there because they're so crazy 824 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: about you, because they don't get it that often, so 825 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: it's dope. Well what was that experience? Like just to 826 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: go over there from atlant from the basement to Beirut, 827 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: crazy as hell, crazy as ship, and I brought my 828 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: mom with me, so like they have to call it 829 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: the mom Tour. I bring my mom. Yeah even last time, 830 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: you brought your whole family. Yeah yeah yeah, so like 831 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: because my family is off from Jersey, New York, so 832 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: like thirty five deep cousins. Yeah, I mean my dad's 833 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: won a seven. You know what I'm saying. That typical big, 834 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: huge Italian family, so like but it was it was 835 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: epic for sure, Like in Montreal, flew my dad up 836 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: to Montreal two nights go, three nights ago, because I 837 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: was the biggest show I've ever done, people the Bigges 838 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: show over here, and like he was on stage doing 839 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: like the whole Kogan hears and like what I'm saying, 840 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: he was crushing it like superstars. Like that's clearly what 841 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: I get it from a private jet experience to it. 842 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, that was the first time. Yeah, 843 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: we did the private jet. So that so they're kind 844 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: of like, I guess living in the moment with you. Yeah, well, 845 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about well because to me, money 846 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: is about like money is cool to buy cool ship, 847 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: Like I just bought this new rolegs today right before 848 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: I came here. Where's my watch over this? But it's 849 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: like that's cool whatever. But to me, money is like 850 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: money is about making creating moments that create memories with 851 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 1: people that like you love. That's the sickest thing money 852 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: can do, you know what I'm saying, Like taking my 853 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: mom to the Maffi Coast in Santorini and beyrout and 854 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: whatever and doing all that and taking my dad on 855 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: a private jet like that's the cool shit. So you 856 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: put your homeboy Bentley? Yeah, I mean I didn't. People 857 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: think I bought him a Bentley Like I was like, yo, 858 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: like if Drake could, I was like, I didn't buy 859 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: him a Bentley. I got him a Bentley to be 860 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: driving when we're in l A any Like, anytime we're 861 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: in l A, he can just drive the Bentley. It's like, yeah, 862 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: people like, yo, he bought where are your Prioritis brought 863 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: your mama, you brought your you brought your boy Bentley. 864 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, how did you become such a 865 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: good performer? I was doing it mad times. That's the thing, 866 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: Like I was one of these people who like blew 867 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: up and like, oh my god, my first show ever 868 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: is when everyone's looking at me like I've been performing 869 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: since I was seventeen eighteen, trying to get on in 870 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: front of those four people Helen Knights at u g 871 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: A fraternity houses performing for two hundred drunk kids, or 872 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, performing at the Mass Grade in Atlanta for 873 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: ten people. Mad times. You know what I'm saying, Like 874 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: mad times? Even watching him off a phone, you had 875 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: like a lot of energy. I can feel the stage. Friend, 876 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: what is to me? Your keys to performance? You think 877 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: that makes the fans enjoy that moment with you like 878 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: they already loved the catalog and focusing focusing really on 879 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: the moment, It's like that's epic. It's like like a 880 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: romantic started a radio right, um not? The Keys to 881 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: Me is like because obviously I've like I've heard my 882 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: own song so many times. I'm saying like mad times. 883 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: So sometimes performing and you kind of like it's mundane 884 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: in your head for a second, but you can't let 885 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: it be that, Like if you really focus on the 886 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: words that you're saying and like you look at the crowd, 887 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: like and you see people going hard. That's when I 888 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: get turned to up. It's like when I see people 889 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: really like chanting the words back and I'm like, yeah, 890 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: I feel you because this is what the funk I 891 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: made it for, you know what I'm saying. So it's 892 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: like it's dope, just focusing on the moment, not being jaded, 893 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like performing is a constant 894 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: like test to like Jade and Jade every second, Like 895 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: it's like Jade and every second. But you talked about 896 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: you pick it up on anything. He said. The chant 897 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: thing that they chanted, they really do everything, bro, Like 898 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: I coppelish it like I do this New ship shows 899 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: were like I'll do the song and then I'll just 900 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: like I'll sing like one word of it after the 901 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: song is over, and then they just sing the entire ship, bro. 902 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: And it's like it's I'm talking songs that I put 903 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: out two weeks ago, Like I could probably do Psycho 904 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: part to last Night and then what I gotten chanted. 905 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like I dropped for the stunt, like 906 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: right before I went on tour. The next day we 907 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: did it like in Portland or some ship crushed, you 908 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's like it's crazy because 909 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: it's real fans, you know what I'm saying that. That's 910 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: what I prided myself. I'm real fans. I saw that 911 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: one the firsthand at the Webster Hole, the first Webster 912 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: Hole show, and again, to be honest, I didn't know 913 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: who the hell you were. I was like, Okay, this 914 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: is New York City, sold out show. This has to 915 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: make it has to be something behind it. And I 916 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: went and you came on stage and it was definitely like, yeah, 917 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: you can't even hear yourself right, everyone's saying things word 918 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: for word. Yeah, And I sell your Santos a small 919 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: thing and you was good, Like I didn't know who 920 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: you were. You also, like you said, approaching me, like 921 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: we talked about it before with some people, Like everybody 922 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: wants to get on this business, but I feel like 923 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: the way you've carried yourself and interact with people, you 924 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: know how to be persistent but not across the line 925 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: and just like be like this is why I am 926 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: bah yeah, yeah yeah, and make a connection. Like what's 927 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: your advice with that? Because I feel like a lot 928 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: of times people are so hungry to get on and 929 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: get recognized, they go about it the wrong way, just 930 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: like the approach. Yeah, I mean, bro, you gotta just 931 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: you gotta do you to be recognized, to be recognized. 932 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean I used to be a psycho. Seriously, like 933 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: we would be spamming like Rob Markman on Twitter, Like seriously, 934 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: probably spammed you at some point on Twitter. Probably that's 935 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: who you need to go back and look for the 936 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: old tweets. Actually I probably deleted them somebody whatever right now. 937 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: But you said what's now? But like it used to 938 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: be like that because you're so hungry trying to get 939 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: on whatever whatever. But then it's kind of just like, look, 940 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: what I realized is put out your music, get your 941 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: fan base, and you'll be good, you know what I'm saying. 942 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: Then when you're moving around like you can't walk around 943 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: with this like fucking mentality, it's just like, look, you 944 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: know what, at least I'm here, I'm grateful for it, 945 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: and I appreciate the love, and you know, people are 946 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: going to give you the energy you give them, so 947 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: you can't walk around being like a fucking dick. But 948 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: you had patients too. I think that's under rate have 949 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 1: to have patients. Yeah, you correct me if I'm wrong, 950 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: But do you have Are you in probation right now? No? See, 951 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: Like here's the funny because the Young Guy I said, 952 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: but I'll be done in October. I made Young Guy. Yeah, 953 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: I just didn't put it out because I was one 954 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: of those songs. I was like, no, this is too 955 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: good to drop with no fans, So like, I'm not 956 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna drop it. When I just started dropping songs on SoundCloud, 957 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm away to have a platform. So I did that 958 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: with in between, I made the other side, Like I 959 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: had a whole album, Like I had my whole debut 960 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: done before I started dropping songs on SoundCloud, and then 961 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: I ended up dropping the entire debut and I have 962 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: a new one. But like that's how it kept going. 963 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta drop these songs because I 964 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: made better ship so I would be swapping what I'm saying. So, yeah, 965 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about that with some other 966 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: earlier too, Like artists out there, you guys throw so 967 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: much music out. But it's like, I think the the 968 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: idea of the debut album is still boman of sides, right, Like, yeah, 969 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: talk about the difference of your approach to that, then 970 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 1: maybe the records you're just giving people on SoundCloud of you. Yeah, 971 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean that like I'm an album artist. You know 972 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's the thing, that's that's what 973 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: I started doing. I dropped a leven you know what 974 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so like because I know that's where it's at. 975 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: That's what the longevity is. That's how you become a legend. 976 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: I just had to go about getting my shine a 977 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: different way, you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't 978 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: have the industry connections to you know, drop one project 979 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: and blow up at I didn't have them, But the 980 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: debut is like it's still super important. That's why I'm 981 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: not gonna play myself. I'm not gonna rush myself. It 982 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: took me ten years to get here. I can wait 983 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: another ten months. You said you want the buzz to 984 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: be disgusting. Yeah, like Drake that Drake quarter three fifty Sampas. Yeah, 985 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: for sure, the music deserves it, you know what I'm saying, Like, 986 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: I'm not going to drop it until it's like I 987 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: have the whole world listening because I feel like the 988 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: music deserves and I feel like I have real message 989 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: of self belief to really tell people, and I have 990 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: real ship to fucking restore, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 991 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: even coming from Atlanta, even though you said didn't have 992 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: connections like that, Atlanta has been a hub for hip 993 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: hop for some time. Did you even network with people? 994 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: Because I wasn't on the scene like that, you know 995 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we would just sit in the basement, 996 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: Me and my boy was sitting the basement record We 997 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: weren't into like we would never the party go is 998 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: like that, So why saying tsunami? This is what you 999 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: get when you don't care about the party scene. You 1000 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, my fucker's go out too much? 1001 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: Like stay inside and perfect some sort of craft. Stop 1002 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: going out? What are you celebrating? You know what I'm saying. 1003 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: So like, no, I just wasn't on the scene like that, 1004 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: So it was really just broke from a basement for real. 1005 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with alcohol? No, so, Brian, 1006 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: because I was listening to Serenity and I'm like, are 1007 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: you know? Um know when I was eighteen, So that's 1008 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: when I first started dabbling with like alcohol and ship 1009 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: I was a kid in high school. I was like 1010 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: anti wee, anti liquor, like bag about it though too, 1011 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: like oh, y'all gotta smoke to that fun Like I 1012 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: was that dude, you know what I'm saying, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, 1013 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: that guy. Um. But then like you know, obviously whatever whatever. Um. 1014 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: But like when I first started drinking, you just like 1015 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: started drinking a lot, like you like a psycho, especially 1016 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: because you're in the studio or whatever. That was just 1017 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: like some some things are hyperboles that like they're slight 1018 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: exaggerations just to kind of like drive the point home, 1019 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like now, there's never an issue. 1020 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: It's just like just making sure because I thought the 1021 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: probation quote a d u y something that caught a 1022 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: du i with powder from the chick from Goodbye Really yeah, 1023 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: we have an epic story with that, like like chicken 1024 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: like life tattooed on the knuckles and shit like epics 1025 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: like Tupac on our arm. Like these girls were morons though, 1026 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying now, I'm sure morons in 1027 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: the sense where is like, uh, you know, life is 1028 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: about self awareness, you know what I'm saying, And like 1029 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: the more where you are of you and your situation 1030 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: and what's going on, the better off you're gonna be. 1031 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: I was always super aware of what was happening with 1032 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: the universe for myself. A lot of these girls in 1033 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: these small towns, a lot of people in general, are 1034 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,479 Speaker 1: just not aware of when good ship is in front 1035 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: of them, and they played themselves out of very epic equations, 1036 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: Like I've even seen it with with friends, where it's 1037 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: like you play yourself out of being in a good 1038 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: situation because you're not. You have no foresight. You can't 1039 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: see past five seconds, you know what I'm saying. So like, 1040 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: you gotta just have a vision. You gotta have foresight, 1041 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: and you gotta have you know, awareness. I saw you 1042 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: tweet that you said you always knew we were gonna 1043 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: make this moment we're gonna put in that we always knew. 1044 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: That's why I have a song. Always knew, So I 1045 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: have a song manifest because it's like, even when you 1046 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: were stacking shoes, yeah, I used to work at off 1047 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,919 Speaker 1: Broadway to shoot wear a house. Yes, I would be like, yeah, wow, 1048 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: was that before I was making I was just making beats, 1049 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: then stacking shoes going into work. Hella high, just like 1050 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: I fucking Finnesse the walkie talkie that I had headphones in, 1051 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: but it was like the walkie you know what I'm saying. 1052 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: It's like like the management be trying to like talk 1053 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: to me or whatever, but like I had headphones in, 1054 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,240 Speaker 1: like I had the earpiece in, but it was playing 1055 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: music right, And like managers would always become enough to 1056 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: me like do you not hear what the funk I'm 1057 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: saying to you? I was like, you just dropped the 1058 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: new facts are you talking about? Yeah? For sure. Now 1059 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: I always knew it was gonna work. And that's like 1060 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: to me, this is like, but society gets so offended 1061 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: when you have confidence, and it's because they don't have confidence, right, Like, 1062 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing with society. They want you to succeed 1063 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, not too much. Once you start getting 1064 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: too successful, you start getting these stay humble things, which 1065 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: literally society's way of saying, don't get too much more 1066 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: successful than me, because then I'm gonna get offended. That's 1067 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: what the stay humble ship means. I never got to 1068 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: stay humble when I was broke. I didn't get stay 1069 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: humble when it wasn't popping. You get to stay humble 1070 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: when people start to see you going past them, because 1071 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: no one wants to see you be more successful than 1072 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: them except your parents and your friends. That's it. And 1073 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: even your friends not not so much unless they're great friends. 1074 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: So have you dealt with that with people dealing with 1075 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: I hate people that say stay humble. I literally hate 1076 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: it because if you look at the definition of humility, right, 1077 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: it's like this meeking behavior and submissive and it's like 1078 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: a very like docile like like it's not a strong 1079 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: like why like why should I not feel like I'm 1080 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest artists in the world? Why 1081 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: should I artists come up here and not here whatever? 1082 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: Just interviews and they're like, nod, did you see this coming? 1083 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: Did you think it was gonna work? Like? No? Man, 1084 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: Like really just what? So? So I should play some 1085 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: weirdod politics to appease societies insecurities. I shouldn't say that. 1086 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: Of course I always knew she was gonna work. I 1087 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: was in the gym practicing, So why should I be 1088 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: surprised when I dropped thirty? That doesn't make any sense? 1089 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: What was that? What? Then? Was I in the gym? 1090 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: You have it out into the speaking into existing because 1091 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: I was a big like I didn't read anything, Like 1092 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: I was never I hated reading, but I read four 1093 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: books or four books like when I was seventeen before 1094 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: I did this whole journey that really uh kind of 1095 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: mode of my mindset, which was Napoleon Hill, Uh, Magic 1096 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: Ladders of Success, Deep Chopra, Seven Spiritual Laws of Success, 1097 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: and the Alchemists. You know what I'm saying that Like 1098 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: those books were like really really impactful and like I 1099 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: feel like you got to be mentally equipped, you know 1100 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I have my arsenal with music, 1101 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: but I also have like a crazy mental arsenal, you 1102 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Because the more information you have, 1103 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: information is empowered by application of information is power. A 1104 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: lot of people are sitting with so much epic ship 1105 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: in their head, but they don't do anything, so it 1106 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter a great idea, they don't ever do ship 1107 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: with it. Me, It's like I soaked that ship up 1108 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: and I applied it to my life and that's why 1109 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: I moved away. I do and that's why I like, 1110 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: in fact, that's why this should happened, because I applied 1111 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot of those methods to my life. I applied 1112 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: the manifestation ship to my life. I applied the the 1113 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: you know, uh, believing that the universe is working with 1114 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: me and not against me. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1115 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: I applied a lot of that. I read that you 1116 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,240 Speaker 1: said that everyone's such a devout belief in someone else's ideas, 1117 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: but when it comes to their own, they doubt themselves. 1118 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: People are always like they're always so like gung hole 1119 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: on all these other people's ideas, right, Like, I mean 1120 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: you even got to look at like people will go 1121 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a religious person in the sense that like 1122 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't go to church, I'm not an organized religious person, right, 1123 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: but people will go. You'll catch people going to church 1124 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: believing in what that guy is talking about more than 1125 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 1: their own ideas. Like, and that's the ship that blows 1126 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: my mind, is like you believe in everyone except you. 1127 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: It is like it just doesn't make any sense to me. 1128 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: And it's because it's easier to believe in someone else 1129 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: because you don't have to deal with their failures. You 1130 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's no risk, it's just reward. Wow, 1131 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: the rewards have been coming, man, I mean you talk 1132 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: about finances a lot throughout your music, say now I do. 1133 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: But it's like it's crazy because like it's so fucked up. 1134 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: It's fucked up because I never wanted to be like 1135 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: that person where it was like hella, money talk. But 1136 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: it's like bo, like I'm kind of looking around, like 1137 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: how are you supposed to not talk about it when 1138 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: it's coming in like this and when like that's part 1139 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: of my life. I can't help it, Like you know 1140 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I always talk about my life. 1141 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: So if anything, like I have a new perspective on 1142 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: it where it's like, look, you'll know when I was 1143 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: talking about having ten dollars to my name. So hopefully 1144 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: me saying I just made a million in two weeks 1145 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: inspires you. It doesn't shot on you, but you still 1146 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: want that hundred before. Yeah, for sure we're gonna get that. 1147 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: We don't get there. One thing about the show I 1148 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 1: think you have quote you said negativity won't be allowed 1149 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: in myself, I will stop it and you'll be hundred 1150 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: percent because I don't like this is not this is 1151 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: not a place for any of that ship. This is 1152 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: a place for like everyone came here to have a 1153 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: good time and everyone has the same thing in comment, 1154 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,720 Speaker 1: like y'all folk with me, you' all like the music, 1155 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: So what are you fighting each other about. That's the 1156 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: issue with the world is that people fight other people 1157 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: before they even realized, like we probably have something in common. 1158 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: People out here shooting people killing people doing all this 1159 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: ship without realizing if you sit down and have a conversation, 1160 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: you might actually folk with that person that you have 1161 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: beef with. It's retarded. People are just like, it's that 1162 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: not awareness ship. People are just blind, you know what 1163 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like mentally blind. It's it's literally so detrimental. 1164 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: That was after the webs the whole show. Uh, some 1165 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 1: girl was fighting, guy was fighting a girl. I was 1166 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: finding a girl. Security yoked him up and yeah yeah 1167 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,919 Speaker 1: yeah crazy. Also like something walked through it. You said 1168 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: some things like society sucks substance out there, so no 1169 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 1: paruntal guidance looking up to Kim and land of products 1170 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: mixed with persistence could be poisoned if you don't watch it. 1171 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: That's epic that like you went and peeple down because 1172 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: that's like super important writing, you know what I'm saying, 1173 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: Because you look at you look at a lot of people. 1174 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: You see all these people on Instagram, social media, all 1175 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 1: these people who who look up to other peoples. This 1176 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: is the sh I'm talking about that who look up to. 1177 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: And it was not a knock to Kanye and Kim. 1178 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: They I would just use them as an example of 1179 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: someone of people, of a couple that people look up 1180 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: to and like, goals, goals, goals. I want to be 1181 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: like that. Why don't you try and be like you? Though? 1182 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, why don't you have 1183 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: your own goals? Why don't you have your own like 1184 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: ship that you look up to. Why are you trying 1185 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: to emulate someone else's life? Why don't you just do 1186 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: your ship? You know what I'm saying. And then one 1187 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,479 Speaker 1: day you have other people probably trying to emulate your life, 1188 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: but it's like, do your ship. You said one time 1189 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: that Kick Cutty is a massive pioneer, and like, what 1190 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: did you mean about Kick Cutty? Was like, Kick Cutty 1191 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: really had a big hand in all this melodic hip hop, 1192 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I was early on 1193 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 1: Cutty with like the kid from Cleveland stuff, whatever whatever 1194 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean. I think Cutty is one of the biggest 1195 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: pioneers for sure, and hip hop also said Little Wayne 1196 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: birth a lot of rappers, A ton of rappers, A 1197 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: ton of rappers, A ton of rappers. Bro. You can 1198 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: hear so many Little Wayne flows, like all the like 1199 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: even the style from the clothing aspect, like the cadence 1200 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: on the mic, like so many rappers, but not much 1201 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: even the work effict though, like I feel like working. Yeah, 1202 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: oh seven run that he did or whatever, like seventy 1203 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: six songs or some ship. That's what I'm saying. Like 1204 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: there was an article like we if you, if you 1205 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: came to our student that we used to have in 1206 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: the basement. All on the walls was cutouts of magazines 1207 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: of different rappers and ship. It looked like a psycho 1208 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: Like you say, psychole up, feel like gonna be called 1209 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean it might be called life. The lifestyle is psycho. 1210 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: If I think I remember, I think it might have 1211 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: been Vibe that did something about Little Wayne And yeah, 1212 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: the Vibe magazine we have that we have that hung 1213 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: up along with like literally every other rapper. But that's 1214 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. With the media, they put that 1215 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: narrative out there. I only know that really because it 1216 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: was talked about. Otherwise I would have just been like 1217 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: I remember, No, seventy dropped a lot of songs, but 1218 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: like because that narrative was really talked about on a 1219 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: major media publication. It was like seventies. I remember it 1220 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: was like in big bold writing to like seventy six songs, 1221 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: like that's how you, that's how Yeah, that's how you 1222 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: productively portrayed the correct narrative. You know what I'm saying, 1223 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 1: how do you keep productively creating high quality, high quantity 1224 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: just because I think it's because I don't have any 1225 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: rules that I said on myself. I don't have any 1226 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 1: uh like limits and boxes creatively. That's why I'm also 1227 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: super proud of the catalog because none of my fans 1228 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: are going to be disappointed with anything I put out 1229 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: for the most part, because I've given you pretty much 1230 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: everything from A to Z. You know what I'm saying, 1231 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: Like you've heard pull the trigger, but then you also 1232 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 1: have heard losing control, but you also hear some ship 1233 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: that maybe has some like reggae whatever ship in it 1234 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like you've heard everything, So like I'm not 1235 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna go left, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm 1236 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna just keep doing me getting better. That's what I 1237 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 1: respect about Drake. It's like Drake just does Drake every time, 1238 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: but just better. That to me is just genius. It's like, 1239 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 1: just do you just do better every time? But just 1240 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: do you? And I think my fans know, like, look, 1241 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: you come to my show and you hear songs are 1242 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: super sloan I'm singing, and then you hear songs were 1243 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: like I'm snapping on you and you hear songs what 1244 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: we're partying. It's like, you know that, like you should 1245 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: just expect anything. No, I don't think so, and I 1246 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: don't think like I think too many people try and 1247 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: dehumanized artists, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm a human. 1248 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 1: So like sometimes I feel like this right because you know, 1249 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: people be like, yo, pick a song, like what's like 1250 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: and I've I've dealt with this my own head where 1251 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: it's like funk, like what they want is gonna blow. 1252 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: It's blowing. But it's like, oh, well that's not like 1253 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 1: the full representation. But that's fine because at the end 1254 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: of the day, that completely accurately represents that side of me, 1255 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: just like losing a choke completely accurately represents that side 1256 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: of me, and pull the trigger represents this side of me, 1257 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: multiple side of me. I'm a human. What side is 1258 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: what they want represented? The swag on you ship, the 1259 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: funk you ship. You know what I'm saying, Like losing 1260 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: controller is the like introspective, Like I listened to your 1261 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: emotion ship. Yeah, it seems like DJ's two are embracing 1262 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: the record of hear it more and more. Yeah. Now 1263 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: I've shout out to Columbia for crushing. Yeah, it feels 1264 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 1: like you getting excited. I saw your tweets and get 1265 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: excited when like you hit your song on the radio. 1266 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah that's because, like I'm not jaded. I'm seven years 1267 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: old still. You know what I'm saying, Like I like 1268 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: this rap ship. I wanted to be a rapper when 1269 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: I grew up. You know what I'm saying, Like this 1270 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: is cool to me. You know what I'm saying, Like 1271 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't understand the people that coming to the game 1272 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: act in super Hollywood. That's why I like, like know 1273 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 1: the power one oh six in of you and ship, Like, Yeah, 1274 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: i'ma talk hell of ship and I'm gonna do all 1275 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: that ship because at the end of the day. I'm 1276 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: not going to go up to acting Hollywood. I got 1277 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: a lot of ship to say, same ship with this. 1278 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 1: I could come up here and just be like whatever, 1279 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: Like all right, like cool, get the funk out, you 1280 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like what does it competitive spirit 1281 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: come from? Lyrically as a rapper? Like was it from? 1282 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: I was always the most competitive kid ever ever, Like 1283 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: I would turn anything into a competition. Still still would 1284 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: we were just that genius yesterday, there's a basketball goal 1285 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: outside of my Everyone, put your ship down, put the 1286 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: jump up. What's the ball? You know what I'm saying, 1287 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: Like we're taking jump shots? Whatever. I was always like that. 1288 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: I was always playing basketball in school. I was always 1289 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: just super competitive, video games whatever. I was always trying 1290 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: to beat everybody at everything. So it rapped to me, 1291 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: is no difference, Like I want to be the best. 1292 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: But the thing is, like I get my inspiration from 1293 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: my own potential. I want to beat what I just did. 1294 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: That's what I look up to. Now there's a couple 1295 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: of people who do super epic things like Drake and 1296 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: Kanye that really uh inspired me to like funk, like 1297 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: how the fund did you do that? But like That's 1298 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: why I send it. You know, in interviews, like I 1299 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: like a lot of people, but a lot there's not 1300 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people that make me want to get 1301 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: that that makes me say how did he do that? 1302 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: When I say Kanye and Drake, it's just because those 1303 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: are the only two that make me like say, how 1304 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 1: did you do that? Everyone else I know how you 1305 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: did it? And like it sounds super good and it's 1306 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: a great song whatever, But I'm not like baffled by 1307 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: the mechanics of it all. Drake and Kanye be doing showing, 1308 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, how the fund did you do that? Everyone 1309 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: else just all right, don't be like six team or whatever. 1310 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: It's cool, it's fresh. I listened to it, but it 1311 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: doesn't make me wonder how I love that mind state, 1312 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: that mentality that you have. Because even prior to you 1313 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: coming in here, we were discussing two new artists want 1314 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: to be legends? Do you want to be good or 1315 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: they're just happy with getting some show money or you know, 1316 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: doing club appearance or whatnot. Yeah, I think I think 1317 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: the I think the youth like doesn't want I think 1318 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people that you don't want to be 1319 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: legendary because I don't think they grew up all right, 1320 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: listening to a lot of legends. You know what I'm saying. 1321 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: They grew up listening to a lot of mediocrity. But 1322 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,439 Speaker 1: I grew up listening to legends. So like that's all 1323 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: I know in hip hop. I never listened to anything 1324 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: but legends. So that's where I see myself. That's why 1325 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself and you know, like I 1326 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: have a U, I have an uphill climb with it 1327 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: because I'm white. At the end of the day, I'm 1328 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: not retarded. I know, like I know what time it 1329 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: is with all this ship. But that's why I'm down 1330 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: to bust my ass. And that's why I like, that's 1331 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: why I put in the work that I put in, 1332 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,919 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I know I got 1333 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: to do that much more to prove to everyone that now, 1334 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: like I do have bars, you know what I'm saying, 1335 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: Like I do this hip hop ship, I've really been 1336 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: doing this ship. You know what I'm saying, Like I 1337 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: get it, I get it makes sense. Yeah, And then 1338 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you just a too busy water in your grass. 1339 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: Check if yours is green and fat? Too busy? My 1340 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: own food to check if you're a sweeter fact, so 1341 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: many people are just blocking out the north. Too many 1342 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: people compare themselves to other people. Like that's when you 1343 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: start getting depressed, is when you start looking at other 1344 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: people's lives and you start trying to add sit up 1345 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: and like, oh, like you'll get tent something used on 1346 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: your song. But then someone will drop something and gets 1347 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand views and you're like, oh, well, I suck, 1348 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: So you can't do that, Like you gotta you gotta 1349 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: beat yourself. That's it, you know what I'm saying, Like 1350 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I would have I would have been done with this 1351 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: music ship if that was my mentality. Like I dropped 1352 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: my album and it got ten place and I dropped 1353 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: ten one and got ten play, So I guess I'm done, 1354 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I was just like, no, well, 1355 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: my last one got ten, this one got twenty, this 1356 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: one got thirty. Like the consistency of uphill Battle. Yeah, 1357 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: so where's this basement now? Is it? Is it? We 1358 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: still not? Because it was it was my boy Budgas, 1359 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Like who I started the company Dimon with with the 1360 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: logo came from uh, it was his It was his 1361 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: mom spot, so like we d had to get rid 1362 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: of the house like this year or whatever. Yeah, but man, 1363 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: I wish we still had that room. I'm gonna go 1364 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: back and just buy that. Me and him are going 1365 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: to go do that ship from in the meantime the 1366 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Young Guy Tour. Man, it's a couple of cities to go, right, Yeah, 1367 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: home stretched at things like two weeks left, but like 1368 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: I feel like being gone forever. Man. Yeah, So any 1369 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: other big plans before the end of the year. Going 1370 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: to a y at the end of the year to 1371 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: do two shows, which is like epic because a lot 1372 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: of these promoters are retarded. Right's number about life advice. 1373 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why these promoters are retarded because 1374 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: they're not They're not in tune with how ship works, 1375 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I meaning the Internet. It's like they don't they get 1376 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: scared and kofee like they just fucking called today. I think, like, oh, 1377 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's not a lot of traction on the 1378 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: site right now because we had to post a second 1379 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: show in Hawaii because the first one sold out in 1380 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: like two hours to a hundred people. Why because I 1381 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: made one post? Because I have real fans, you know 1382 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? They're like, oh, the second show doesn't 1383 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of attractions because you guys posted it 1384 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't post it yet because no one gives 1385 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: a funk what you're talking. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1386 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 1: what is what's the disconnect? You have no juice dot com? Yeah, 1387 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 1: I guess you're more popular the Middle East. I'm huge 1388 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. In the Middle East. Yeah, super 1389 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: popping the Middle East. I was supposed to the Middle 1390 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: East touring December, but like it's math hard to get 1391 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: over there, Like it's like sketchy, like promotives are the 1392 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: long hair, I don't. I mean they hand some good 1393 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 1: looks and all that. You know, it's not hurting anybody, 1394 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: but Na, but that that ship came out of nowhere. 1395 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: It was really Saudi Arabia, Like, but that ship came 1396 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I just remember getting hit up on 1397 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Snapchat by all these like Saudi girls and stuff, and 1398 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what's happening? Fall in love against exactly? 1399 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: And I love Latinez, but Saudi girls are like like 1400 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Latina is like slightly yeah, you know what I'm saying, 1401 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Like they go kind of hand to hand. But I 1402 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, yo, what's going Like where 1403 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: is this coming from? And it was so crazy that 1404 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I had to mention it. People think that like, oh uh, 1405 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: you just mentioned Saudi Girls and then that's what got 1406 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: it crazy. It's like, no, I mentioned it because it 1407 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: was crazy. So in Too Many, that's the first time 1408 01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned Saudi Girls. I was like, girls from Saudi 1409 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: they be and rowdy, and it just so happened that 1410 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 1: the first time I mentioned them it was on like 1411 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: one of my bigger songs. What's crazy is that, Like 1412 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: that's just marketing genius on accident, Like the only time 1413 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: the only times I've mentioned Saudi Girls just so happens 1414 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 1: are my biggest songs, the Tiger, Too Many, you know 1415 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like then it just went 1416 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: crazy because they were also on great songs, you know 1417 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that people would love anyway. So it's yeah, 1418 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this journey. That Grammy Awards speech 1419 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: is going to be epic. Better not cut me the 1420 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: better than not gonna cut me off? No chance you're 1421 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna get Like, if you could win an Album of 1422 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: the Year, you're gonna get the engineer Grammy to produce it, 1423 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: but I'm curious how that works. I need I need 1424 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: six Grammys for my album. You know what I'm saying. 1425 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Any Grammy I win, I need six because I produced it, 1426 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: makes it master and engineered it. Wrote I need five. 1427 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: You your own publicist to not anymore. I used to be, 1428 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, I used to be used to do my 1429 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: own pr I need five Grammys every time I win 1430 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: a Grammar. I need five out of them for sure. 1431 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Walk out of the Grammy ship with like a like 1432 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: a wagon shopping car, just like seventy as. Anybody get 1433 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: a rush track outside of Ki in their lab which 1434 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: you or something? Was that? I really love Kalani. I 1435 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Thinkani is a future vomb I love that puff Daddy 1436 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: said for real, I said it before him. Okay, I'm 1437 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: going to Twitter. You can see I think that that. 1438 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: I said that before him. For rust, I folk with 1439 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: did he thought? Did he did he soun Quincy came 1440 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: to the l A show. He yeah, he's done now. 1441 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: I fought with Klanni heavy heavy. I would definitely do 1442 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 1: something Ki. I mean like I guess your idols or 1443 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: anything like that have reached out, not not like the 1444 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: not like the drinks and Kanye's not not yet. I mean, 1445 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: do you think they think I don't. I don't know not. 1446 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I just don't think that they know about it. You 1447 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Maybe they do. I don't know whatever. 1448 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: But um now I've been telling like Carol Lewis to 1449 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: like hate Yeah, not yet. Do you have like a 1450 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: dream co operation? I mean I would love to. I 1451 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 1: want to produce for people, but like not send fifteen 1452 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: beats over an email and then like hear it when 1453 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: it comes out. That's terrible. Really be in the lab 1454 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, because I want to like combine worlds. That's 1455 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: the ship I respect about Kanye, like like all of 1456 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: the lights He's got Elton John and you know what 1457 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like really like producing it. Like that's the 1458 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,959 Speaker 1: only way I want to produce anything, is like really 1459 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: sitting in the studio like creating and morphing worlds together. 1460 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that's the shift I 1461 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: want to do. Dream collapse. I don't know. It's interesting 1462 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 1: cause you would think you're so self contained, but the 1463 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: opposite you want you open. I'm down because I think 1464 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of super talented people. I just think 1465 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: they make a lot of questionable creative decisions. So I 1466 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: think that if I was like in the studio with you, 1467 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: like we would make six ship, you know what I'm saying, 1468 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: But like you left to your own right. I got 1469 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: beats for days. I'm moving around with like four days 1470 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: worth it beats on my computer at all times. Everyone knows. 1471 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: I got to play this on my computer called the Vault, 1472 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: and it's like three and a half day. Is it 1473 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,919 Speaker 1: just beats? How often do you create it? Like every 1474 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: day or on tour? Not as much. But I'm always 1475 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: listening to samples though if I'm not like making bees, 1476 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm like listening to samples, even on accident. Like I 1477 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: was just at a restaurant and like stations Amy random 1478 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: ship the samples from restaurants, Ella samples. That's the key, Yeah, 1479 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: for sure, go out to eat more facts. Yoh man, 1480 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: this was great, man Ross. We can probably do part 1481 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: two before Like that was that we barely scratched the surface. Man, 1482 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: what they give us the jamb when we get out 1483 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: of here? Man? What do we miss? Bro? I mean 1484 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,439 Speaker 1: just so much. There's so much when if you start 1485 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: your own magazine and website, I want to get a 1486 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: recipe book called The Itis. The Itis is gonna be 1487 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: ten recipes that when you eat them. When you eat 1488 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 1: the recipes, you fall asleep, and it's the itis if 1489 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: you steal my fucking ship. But I was just telling 1490 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: something about that the other day. It's like, because you 1491 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: know what, the itis, when you eat food, go to sleep, 1492 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I'll have like big as passes on there, like steak 1493 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: mashed potatoes. Itis crushing you. I mean, it happens in 1494 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: like Italian meals a lot, like eat Boston. You just 1495 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,959 Speaker 1: go downstair. I'm out like turkey. You know what I'm saying. 1496 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Mandatory nap, It's necessary. You gotta sleep it off. I'm 1497 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: sleeping no more. Man let him know, sir, Thank you, 1498 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. This was seriously and honor for real. Wrap 1499 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: It Up podcast