WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Currency Works

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody, this is Charles W. Chuck Bryant here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about currency, specifically the September eight, two fourteen Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>You Should Know episode How Currency Works. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>one was really cool because it's not just money, all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of currency everybody. So that's why this is my pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you check it out and hope you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>it all over again. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, and Jerry all Right. Yeah, that makes the

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know. Have you ever had one of those? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I wanted one, but when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, I wanted one of those coin things

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted your hip to make change. I wanted one

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<v Speaker 1>of those worst than anything, really. Yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>like a peanut vendor. I don't know when I said

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<v Speaker 1>when I was at six Flags what everyone I saw

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<v Speaker 1>those things? I just thought it was boss. That's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I knew that you could buy

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<v Speaker 1>them for like three bucks or else. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of them. Yeah, because there's not much to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like the thing's not counting anything when you

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<v Speaker 1>press it with your thumbs. Releases. But each one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your quarters, they have different sizes, so you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can just without even looking, you could go, here's three quarters, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what somebody's getting for Christmas this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought of that out of nowhere. I haven't remember

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<v Speaker 1>that since I was a kid. I was obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>those things for a little while. Well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you were technically obsessed with a dispenser of currency? How's

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<v Speaker 1>that ted that one up? Yeah? Yeah, knocked it out

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<v Speaker 1>of the part. I collected banks too, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing for a kid to do. Banks like piggy banks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even then, none of them were piggybanks. Well what was

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite one? Oh man? I still have the collection.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom's got them. Um. I wonder if they're worth

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<v Speaker 1>any money, and I doubt it. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a Garfield Bank and uh and uh Opus the

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<v Speaker 1>penguin Eric Davis? Now was it Opus from bloom County? How?

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I blanking out on that? That was my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite comic? I don't know that sounds right, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>losing it, buddy, So the penguin from Bloom County, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going with that. I was obsessed with Bloom County and

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<v Speaker 1>then Change Counters nice and Biggiebanks cool. That was my childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dale Murphy not Eric Davis. Now, who's that? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>for the Reds? Oh? The Reds player? Yeah? He was

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<v Speaker 1>great though, I love it he as a non Reds fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I was an Eric Davis fan. I'm with you. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are you obsessed with? I liked baseball, baseball cards? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you claim anything? Mad magazines? Yeah? Me too. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>still I think at my dad's house. They'd better be.

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<v Speaker 1>You still got him? Uh? What else did I collect?

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<v Speaker 1>I saved up my Sports Illustrated for years too. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember the first one I ever got had Muhammad

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<v Speaker 1>Ali on the cover. That's all I am. Wow. It

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<v Speaker 1>was during his comeback and when he was like fat

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<v Speaker 1>and mustachioed. Don't call it a comeback. It was not

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<v Speaker 1>not much one. That's not how that goes? Uh? How's

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<v Speaker 1>that first side track? To get us going? I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even done the intro. Let's hear it? So the intro

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<v Speaker 1>is as follows Chuck in two New York Magazine, not

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times, not New Yorker, New York Magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an equally good publication in that time out

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. Not the Village Voice, all right, just

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<v Speaker 1>New York Magazine, um which is actually where the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Fever came from. It came from an article

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<v Speaker 1>that was later admitted to be completely fabricated by the author. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in that magazine. Awesome. Anyway, New York Magazine ran a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting article in January called um or January called

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<v Speaker 1>SuDS for Drugs, and it talked about how there's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge black market for tide laundry detergent, specifically liquid tide

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Yeah, they did not make it anymore. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they make plenty of it, but tons of it gets stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is tied is such an agreed

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<v Speaker 1>upon great laundry detergent that tied and only tied. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you try to use gain or um all or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, you would get turned away. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a jug of tied liquid laundry detergent, you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy drugs in the United States with it. It

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<v Speaker 1>is agreed upon as a currency. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>even though you can just buy it in the store. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see. That's the part I don't get, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a crackhead and you steal a carton of them,

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, you didn't have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for this tide and you can use it to buy drugs. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't use any of that stuff? And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to pick on just crackheads. If you're a junkie,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. Sure, if you have a gambling habit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've man, we got we got a lot of crap

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<v Speaker 1>from a cup. The people by using about using the

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<v Speaker 1>word junkie, Yeah, it's pretty derogatory if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, well, but it's a word with a definition

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<v Speaker 1>which means something, and that's what it means. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like we were just like slagging people. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I get what they're saying, though. You're saying like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a dismissive term of anyone who's addicted. It

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of flies in the face of the disease

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<v Speaker 1>model of addiction. Yeah. Yeah, so I had to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the people who call us out on man, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. But the point is tied is now a

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<v Speaker 1>currency as like remember our prison episode we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how honey buns are currency. Yeah, same thing, right, cigarettes, yeah, currency,

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<v Speaker 1>deer skins, Yeah, those were currency once. That's where we

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<v Speaker 1>get the word bucks from. I think what you're getting at. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to get to that stuff later. Okay, etymology,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that stuff. Um. I think what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say is that or what you are saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that currency is nothing more or than a medium of

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<v Speaker 1>exchange and a substitute for something a good or a service. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is an agreed upon that's the key. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be agreed upon. Yeah, you can't be like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you five Lincoln logs for a car. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do when you're a kid, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I don't think I want Linkol logs, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody goes, oh you do. Right. But if the other

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<v Speaker 1>person says those Lincoln I don't want Lincoln logs, then

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<v Speaker 1>what you have are Lincol logs, not a currency, because

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be mutually agreed upon, like you say,

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<v Speaker 1>like dollar bills. Yeah. I have gone off on this

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<v Speaker 1>on our show about the amazing fact that this paper

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<v Speaker 1>we have all agreed as is worth something, and that

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<v Speaker 1>as the only reason it's worth something that people dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>their lives to pursuing paper is as as ephemeral as

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<v Speaker 1>a cloud. Almost. Yeah, not the greatest analogy you I've made,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still kind of works, all right. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk olden days and currency as a substitute for things. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what currency did was solved the problem. It allowed you

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<v Speaker 1>to give change and make change. Yeah, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. Because back in the day, if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a bushel of corn and you wanted a chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>you would go to your neighbor. Well, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>find somebody they had a chicken that wanted corn. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first problem. That's a problem. But what if

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<v Speaker 1>you do find someone, You're like, great, my neighbor's got

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<v Speaker 1>a chicken and I've got this corn. He wants this corn.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants the corn, but he says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this chicken is worth a lot more than that corn.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's getting a bad deal until you can make change. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if corn you could that's not the best

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<v Speaker 1>example because you could take out some of the corn.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you can't chop a chicken. Yeah, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a cow, your neighbor has a chicken, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an even trade. But you just need one chicken

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<v Speaker 1>and your neighbor just needs one cow. You can't make

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<v Speaker 1>change like that. You can't make change. So that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first roles that currency its fulfilled, was a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make change, to make trade more equal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and before that, I think there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>bad deals going down out of desperation. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if your family really needed that chicken for a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>you might end up taking a bad deal just because

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<v Speaker 1>you need that chicken. You give your cow away for

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<v Speaker 1>that chicken. Yeah, and then your family would berate you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right, where's the milk, honey? Yeah, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the magic beans incident all over again. Can't milk a chicken, honey?

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<v Speaker 1>You get berated by your wife. Another reason that currency

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<v Speaker 1>uh became popular is because it allowed you for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time to really a mass wealth. Because you can

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<v Speaker 1>harvest all the corn you want, but that corn is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go bad unless you can find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>trade it in. A barn full of rotten corn does

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<v Speaker 1>no one any good. It doesn't make you any richer

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<v Speaker 1>like in in practice, practically speaking, you would be an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily wealthy person if you had tons of corn. In theory,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you said, it's gonna go bad, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could lose all all your wealth would literally rot away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case with say a gold coin. Gold

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<v Speaker 1>coins aren't gonna go bad and deteriorate. So there that

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<v Speaker 1>stand in for those enormous stocks of corn because you

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<v Speaker 1>had all that corn and then you traded it for

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<v Speaker 1>gold coins. So what you did was you took your

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<v Speaker 1>wealth of corn and stored it into something of equal value,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case gold coins. Yeah, and that had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge impact on civilization because the most powerful people were

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<v Speaker 1>not just the ones who held the political and military influence.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, if you could accumulate wealth, then

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<v Speaker 1>you could buy that junk. Yeah. It gave rise to

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<v Speaker 1>the merchant class. And it democratized is that the word.

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<v Speaker 1>It democratized the world. It did because before it was

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<v Speaker 1>like you were born into a wealthy, noble family, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's gain power. And if you weren't t yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>meant that you work the land for this wealthy family.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can sell something and get money in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for it instead of a cow for a chicken. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you say that junk up and you buy someone to

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<v Speaker 1>go kill that landowner and then that's your land. Right. Democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>democracy work. Uh. They are generally considered to be four

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<v Speaker 1>categories of UM currency. You have commodity currency, coins, paper money,

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<v Speaker 1>and electronic currency these days, and in the commodity system,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a placeholder, like we said, um for purchasing power,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is also has value as a thing because

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<v Speaker 1>corn is valuable. Um, it's not just a piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>where in the case of the Aztecs or little Coco,

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<v Speaker 1>beans were valuable and so they use those as money.

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<v Speaker 1>But um. One of the roblems with that is if

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<v Speaker 1>the person you're trading with doesn't find that valuable, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's worthless. Yeah. Usually within a society, everyone will find

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<v Speaker 1>that commodity currency valuable, Like the Aztecs with cocao. They

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<v Speaker 1>love the stuff. They made chocolate out of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the elixir of the gods, kind of stuff. Drank

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<v Speaker 1>it right, Yeah. Mina Zuma drank like twenty or forty

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<v Speaker 1>cups of it to day until he died from drinking

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<v Speaker 1>too much chocolate. Um. But the canky sitters who came

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<v Speaker 1>didn't value cocow beans at all, So rather than trade,

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<v Speaker 1>they just took everything yeah and dumped the cacao beans

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<v Speaker 1>because it was worthless to them. Yeah, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>a good example of a commodity based currency, like even

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<v Speaker 1>if even if everything else falls apart, that cocw beans

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<v Speaker 1>still has value and that you can make chocolate out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. In the society, chocolate is valued ergo they

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<v Speaker 1>value the cacao beans, so you can use it as currency.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus in this case, cacaw beans um are easy to carry,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're portable, and they're plentiful and small, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can make change with them. Yeah, but not everything was

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<v Speaker 1>the cacao bean. In commodity currency, a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is perishable more perishable um, a lot of like cattle

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<v Speaker 1>is super bulky. You can't carry on a bunch of cows, goats,

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<v Speaker 1>goats um. But nevertheless, that is a form of commodity currency.

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<v Speaker 1>Has just had its downside, Like the goat has has

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<v Speaker 1>value in and of itself. Yeah, cute cute milk, meat

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<v Speaker 1>and cute hair and cute and very cute. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get one of those pigmy goats one of these days.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen. You're gonna come over to my house

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<v Speaker 1>and then little goat is gonna bounce in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Clip clop, you're gonna go. What the have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen be the Lamb? I showed you that, right, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>of that's probably my top five if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Be the Lamb where into YouTube? Now? Oh was it

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<v Speaker 1>a lamb? I think so. I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>pigmy goat. I think it's a lamb. Jerry says, Lamb. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I win. Alright, here's some cacao beans. Nice. Okay, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if we can get the mojo back again.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, the mojo is still flowing because our message

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<v Speaker 1>break in reality, was only two seconds long. That's our

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<v Speaker 1>dirty secret. Coins is our next form of currency. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were first minute a minute in Lydia, which is

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<v Speaker 1>modern Turkey, and they're king uh Crosis or crotus. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna make these little small metal ingots.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna amblem with our emblem and it's six ford

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<v Speaker 1>BC and this is called coins and it's worth something.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Greek said this is great, and the Romans

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<v Speaker 1>said this is great. And they're we're gonna make ours

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<v Speaker 1>out of silver and gold. So it's actually worth something.

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<v Speaker 1>Although when you think about it, that's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>worth something because someone says it's worth something. Gold, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. Yeah, I read this Forbes article that

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<v Speaker 1>basically said all currency is a fiat currency. Fiat currency

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<v Speaker 1>means that it has valued by fiat, like um, the

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<v Speaker 1>fiat of the king, a decree um, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>the government or the king says this has value. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's n gold, it's valuable, so go trade it as

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<v Speaker 1>such by fiat. Right. Yeah, if you think about the

0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.040
<v Speaker 1>only things that really have real value or like food

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<v Speaker 1>and water pretty much, you know, like you can make

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<v Speaker 1>the case that a commodity based currency like cocao beans

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<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily a fiat currency because it does have inherent

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<v Speaker 1>value that anybody can use. But gold old is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really that valuable. It's not really that useful,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in like a pre industrial society. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>gold first became valuable because it was shiny and and

0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it literally yes, they could make pretty things with it, honestly, yes, interesting,

0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly why. Because it's so malleable, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't make tools out of it. Yeah, even today it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that useful. I mean, they use it in some

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<v Speaker 1>solid state electronics and things, but it's not it's more

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<v Speaker 1>valuable simply because it's gold. Yeah, so even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>backed with gold, it's technically still a fiat currency. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard that term f I A T. So what

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<v Speaker 1>does the fiat car all about? Does that mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>just special because they say it is? All right? Um

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<v Speaker 1>in China, I thought the Chinese made the first coins,

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<v Speaker 1>but Ums says no. Yeah. Grabster says that it happened

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<v Speaker 1>about the same time it did in the West fifth

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<v Speaker 1>century BC. They started out oddly with tools like knives,

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<v Speaker 1>shapes as currency with little holes drilled in them so

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<v Speaker 1>they could keep it on a string, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>shrank over the earth until it was about the size

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<v Speaker 1>of a coin, right, I thought was odd, But they

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<v Speaker 1>kept the hole in there. So even until like the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineteenth century, the Chinese coins still we're just these

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<v Speaker 1>little round coins with a hole in the middle so

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<v Speaker 1>you could string them on a string. Yeah, that's because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the little coin dispenser on the hip.

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<v Speaker 1>They would have thought of that, which is surprising because

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese invented practically everything except the coin dispenser, the

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<v Speaker 1>hip mounted coin dispenser. Did they even still make those?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure they do. I'll bet all right, I'm gonna buy one. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, Archie McPhee probably makes it in an ironic version.

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<v Speaker 1>So who's that they make? Um, you've seen all their stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They make like funny like they were the original, probably

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<v Speaker 1>like bacon air freshener, car freshener. They make stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They make his head, gotcha. They outfit Um, they all

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<v Speaker 1>their stuffs in urban outfitters, probably in the chakey section. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I hate them. Then. Uh So, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big impacts of coins was now the government actually

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<v Speaker 1>controlled the money supply and could manipulate it and say

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<v Speaker 1>what it's worth. And Roman emperors were dumb and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, We're just gonna reduce your amount of

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<v Speaker 1>precious metal in some of these because that makes us richer.

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<v Speaker 1>But that devalued things such that it ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>one of the factors in their downfall. Yeah, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite understand now it worked, and it took thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>years for anybody to figure out really how it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>But basically if you still know how it works kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we have a better grasp than

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<v Speaker 1>the early Roman emperors. Yeah, that's because they would say, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a ton of gold, and my predecessors would

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<v Speaker 1>make ten thousand gold coins out of a ton, but I,

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<v Speaker 1>being as clever as I am, I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand gold coins out of this ton and double

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<v Speaker 1>my money. But rather than double the money, it devalued

0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the currency and led to the decline of the Roman Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, like you said, But that's how Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>after that, um, it took a while for coins to

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<v Speaker 1>come back in fashion, all the way to the Renaissance

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<v Speaker 1>because in the Dark Ages, because of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that uh stuff, people didn't trust coins right, and for

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<v Speaker 1>good reason, because there was a someone behind it who

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<v Speaker 1>could decree the percentage of gold in that coin. The

0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.480
<v Speaker 1>thing is is um and we'll get to this later.

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<v Speaker 1>The powers that be can decree value, but ultimately it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to the general public, the people who are trading

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<v Speaker 1>in these things, to determine really how valuable they are.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something called perception of value that has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with just how valuable a currency is or not we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in a minute, but that's what happened in Rome. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, we have paper money or is they call

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<v Speaker 1>it folding money here in the South, and um they

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 1>paper money was first developed by the Chinese as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and they used um, like you said, a buckskin, sometimes bark,

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<v Speaker 1>parchment and it was a bill of payment. And leather

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.639
<v Speaker 1>was also used in Europe around eleven undred, which didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really catch on then. No, I think leather money be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool though. Leather money, sure, if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you hate animals, what better way to kill more

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<v Speaker 1>of them? I wonder how much a cow would have

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<v Speaker 1>been worth then, yeah, because you while they were using

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<v Speaker 1>the skin for other stuff anyway, good point though. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In Sweden in six sixty one they issued paper money,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't quite understand it either and flooded the

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<v Speaker 1>market with it, which made it almost worthless as well. Out, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I get the the I get the desire though, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone says this stuff is worth something, let's just print

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of it exactly. Yeah. Um, So it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>catch on after the Swedish experiment of the seventeenth century,

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.639
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't take too much longer. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth century when paper money finally did catch on, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was based on the practice of goldsmiths at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>where if you gave them some gold, they give you

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<v Speaker 1>basically an IOU say they were making something out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gold, or they were hanging onto the gold for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You had what what it amounts to a promissory note

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<v Speaker 1>saying you bring this I O U back to me

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll give you this amount of gold and return.

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<v Speaker 1>It was basically the first what what's called gold backed

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>paper currency. And once banks figured out just how that

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<v Speaker 1>could work in theory and in practice, anybody could start

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<v Speaker 1>issuing currency. Yeah, and um, money was backed by gold.

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Even right here in the US all the way up

0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:03.120
<v Speaker 1>until nineteen UM every dollar had and not theory, every

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<v Speaker 1>dollar had gold somewhere, not just dollars. Pretty much any

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<v Speaker 1>paper currency in the world at the time was backed

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<v Speaker 1>by gold, silver, some sort of precious metal that we

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<v Speaker 1>all agreed was valuable because it's shiny. Yeah, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a stock somewhere in the world that you could

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<v Speaker 1>trade your paper money for that value in gold. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could go somewhere to the gold trader. E let's

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<v Speaker 1>say here I want all this money in gold. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's what the the Wizard of Oz is about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an allegory for the gold standard. Oh man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>depending on who you ask, it's about ten different things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an allegory, a populist allegory for the gold standards.

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<v Speaker 1>I just posted an article about like ten different theories

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<v Speaker 1>on what the Wizard of Odds means on our Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine is right and yours is right, and then everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else is wrong. Thank you. That's all I ever want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you, I know. Um. So, now we're

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<v Speaker 1>on to E money, which is uh. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>something super new, but it actually came about after World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two when UM banks started recording their information of

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<v Speaker 1>the day onto magnetic reels and taking it to the

0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve Bank, and all of a sudden they said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't need these silly ten dollar bills

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<v Speaker 1>because we can just record this all electronically. And all

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<v Speaker 1>it took then was a wire connection and trust for

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<v Speaker 1>people to trust that this really is money, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing any money right right then. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the real distinction of it, because with an electronic transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>originally you're transferring information about money, like I will I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hundred thousand dollars over here I officially give

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and so that that electronic transfer becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>promissory note in and of itself. Um. And they figured

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<v Speaker 1>out that they can do this after they realized that

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>money in and of its self isn't valuable, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can just do this whole thing electronically. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they did have hundred thousand dollar notes and apparently there's

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<v Speaker 1>some in circulation still, there's a couple hundred of them

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in circulation. They had five hundred, one thousand, ten thousand,

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and hundred thousand dollar bills. There's a really neat mental

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 1>floss article that you can read called a hundred thousand

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.679
<v Speaker 1>dollar Bill, The Story behind large denomination currency, and it

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.719
<v Speaker 1>talks all about that. But it was prior to the

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 1>magnetic tapes that were passed from bank to bank or

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that recorded this information. And this is how banks would

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>settle up transfers through ten thousand, hundred thousand dollar bills. Yea.

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 1>And the hundred thousand UM has Woodrow Wilson on it

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and they only made those for about three weeks. But um,

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that was never like in the public. That was just

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>between banks, Like, no, it was never in circulation. That's

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<v Speaker 1>still there's still around from what I understand though, Yeah,

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that was um in nineteen I'm sorry. In two thousand nine,

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.719
<v Speaker 1>there were less than four hundred five dollar bills, thousand

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>dollar bills, five thousand dollar bills, and ten thousand dollar

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>bills um, all between like three and four hundred still

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>in circulation, which I thought was pretty interesting. And they're

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>usually worth frame now, you know, but there were way

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>more than their face value. Um. This mental plus article

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.439
<v Speaker 1>points out that if you have a pristine ten thousand

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>dollar bill, yeah, it's worth at least ten times that. Wow.

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>And so they all had different presidents throughout the years.

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a single version of it. Uh, there

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>was a bunch of different versions of all those except

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>for the hundred thousand. Yeah, it was always Wilson, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they just printed it for three weeks? Would would he? Um?

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why he get that honor? Yeah? I don't know,

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>because he was money. He didn't even know it. So uh,

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>with electronic money, another few things really helps submit that

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>as a as a viable thing. One was the first

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>credit card and Steen fifty Diners Club said, you know what,

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>rich businessman, here's a piece of plastic, so you can

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>impress your friends by not even carrying cash and pay

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>for whatever you want with this thing, and then we'll

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>charge you some interest and then you'll pay us back. Yeah.

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.679
<v Speaker 1>And we got even further from the commodity by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're not even using cash. Yeah, we're using electronic

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>promisory notes by charging this that's the promissory note. And

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>then they realize, hey, this shouldn't be just for rich dudes,

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 1>because we can financially cripple everybody exactly. This interesting is

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 1>really neat. So everyone should have a credit card, and

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>today there's over two hundred million visas, which started in

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<v Speaker 1>n h Then the Social Security Administration started doing e

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>deposits all the way back in and people kind of

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>got used to the idea that all right, I see

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it's in my bank account now, so I trust it. Yeah,

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>which is a big step forward. Yeah, it took a

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>little a while catch on. But then now it's, like

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the grabster points out, people started paying bills, transferring money

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>between accounts, and sending money electronically without ever even touching it. Yeah,

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>which is true, Like I hadn't thought about that, But

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of money that that I earned and spend.

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>That's just like it's never physical ever, that's all my money. Yeah,

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I almost never have or use cash. Like I get

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>paid electronically. It goes to a bank in number, and

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>then I have a American Express that I pay for

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 1>things with, and then I pay for that electronically. And

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trusting that this is. As long as the

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>lights are on, I guess everything's working out right exactly

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>basic and basically it's like the future, like what everybody

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>talks about in the future, We're not gonna have money,

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have credits. Well, the future is here. Apparently

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>eight percent of the world's currency is in hard like currency.

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 1>This all sounds so dangerous when you start talking about

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.439
<v Speaker 1>it like that, Like all it takes is one big

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 1>crash of electronic crash, and what if they were Like

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>all that money that you thought you had it is

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>not here now we don't know what happened to it.

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It's entirely possible. Remember they have the fd I s though, Yeah,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that's United States at least. Remember the early days of

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>internet purchases. How distrustful. We all were, Yeah, I'm not

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 1>putting my credit card, I'm not typing that thing in

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and it never occurred to that. We hand it to

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>like a waiter or you know, whoever that can do

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>anything with it. And then it finally just became less

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>important just because so many people were doing it, that

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the chances of your credit card being stolen, um, we're lower.

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Coupled with the fact that it became evident that credit

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>card companies were willing to just like wipe clean that's accrude,

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>like that illegally, Yeah, made people a lot a lot

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>more trusting of it. I guess. Yeah. I had a

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>lady in front of me this grocery store the day

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that wrote a check and I was just like, oh,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>were just like I know, I felt like a jerk

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>because I had a wait longer minute, but I did

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>want to say, like, you know, there's a better way

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>of doing that now checks And I can't remember the

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>last check I wrote. It's been years and years and

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>years since I've written a check for me. It's usually

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like like a government thing like a tag or something,

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>tag tax or something. Yeah, I do all that with

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>my card too. Uh. And then of course, if you

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the bleeding edge of electronic money,

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>um e g. Bitcoin and that kind of thing, should

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>go listen to our bitcoin episode, which we're told was

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Yeah. I think even the guys from pot

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>on Pod reviewed our show and they listened to the

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>midpoint episode and said we did a good job of

0:28:42.640 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>explaining it. Yeah. So, Chuck, we're talking about the gold

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>standard and how that's what the Wizard of Oz is about.

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>And um, prior to that, with the gold standard, it

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>was I mean, inflation happened. The price of gold fluctuated,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>so therefore the price of anything pegged to it, like

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the dollar, would fluctuate too. With when we abandoned the

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>gold standard officially in nine one, but prior to that,

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I think in the thirties is when it really started. Um,

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>we really took a huge leap of faith because there's

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>nothing backing it anymore, Like there's a huge it's a

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>myth that you can take your dollar bill and turn

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it in for gold. They will, some guys in white

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>coats will come and lock you up in a padded

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>room for a little while. They said, you can come

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and buy this gold ring with your cash. Pretty much

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you can buy gold bullion with it, but you cannot, Yeah, exactly,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to charge you some fees for that too. Um.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>So once we abandoned the gold standard, it was a

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>big leap of faith because um, as Milton Freedman put it, quote,

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the pieces of green paper have value because everybody thinks

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>they have value. And as long as we all think

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>together and believe together, they will stay valuable. But there

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 1>are certain times, there's certain occasions and events when we

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>all believe that things become a little less valuable, that

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>currency is a little less valuable than at other times.

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>So this perception of value can have an impact on

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the value of currency. And the Grabster gives a pretty

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>good example. It's when we deflate or devalue currency relative

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to other currencies, which will do sometimes because we want

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to attract that currency's native investors over here in the US.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>So like if right now you can buy five francs

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to the dollar, euros five euros to the dollar, um,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and we say, what, we want to encourage more investment

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>in Europe, So we're gonna let the dollar devalue um,

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna make it so it's equal to three

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>euros and then we'll stabilize it. Well, that will encourage

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>more people in Europe to invest in the United States

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>because the Euro now has more buying power relative to

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the dollar. But everyone in the in the United States

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>because wtf, we got all these dollars and now it's

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>worth less because you just told us that you're going

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to make it worth less relative to the euro. Nothing

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>really happened to the dollar that everybody agreed literally overnight

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that the dollar is less valuable now because it was devalued.

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>That's one way that that currency can fluctuate these days. Yeah,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had a better understanding of when people

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>say what the dollar is worth. Sometimes it just makes

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>my head spin. I have one for you. You're gonna

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>love this, man. Let's hear it. The Big Mac Index.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's exactly what you just said. If you want

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>an understanding of it. There is a guy in six

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>who wrote in The Economist basically the Big Mac Index,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and and it says we cover this in uh one

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of them. We may have done it in their stuff

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>super stuff gut to the economy. Then that was eight

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>years ago, though it was, But what so we'll go

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>over it again. The big Mac index says the price

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of an end of a big mac relative to the

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>price of a big mac in another country. Right, So

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it's basically saying you can, and it's tongue in cheek,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but it actually does kind of work. You can you

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>can show the buying power, the purchasing power of one

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>UM currency relative to another based on how much a

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>big mac costs in each country. And once you once

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you see it and and look at it like that,

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you go to the economists and type in the big

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Mac index and it'll bring this up. And it's an

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>interactive scale UM which makes it awesome, and you understand

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>relative purchasing power. Well, I should spend some time that side,

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you. It will make me hungry. So then the

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>other way that things can devalue is with supply, and

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that is just basically supplying demand. Like when there's a

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>lot more money available, it by nature becomes less valuable. Yeah,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>demand is high prices go up. Demand supplies high prices

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>go down, right, So that's inflation and deflation that goes up,

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it goes down. Okay, I guess we should answer this.

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Are you watching the Simpsons every episode marathon? I've tuned

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in something here and there. But what I've really enjoyed

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>is the influx of articles about like the best seasons,

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the best episodes. It's really like a trip down memory lane.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I do not have f x X and so therefore

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm bereft. Yeah, but you've seen them all anyway. Yeah,

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it would be so nice to see him again like this,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, I mean they're running the NonStop. Like

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you wake up at three am, it's on. I know,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I wake up at three am and

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>realize that I'm missing a Simpsons right then, Well you

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>caught Bed Goes Up, Bed Goes Down on. That's because

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I love the Simpson exactly. So. Uh. We talked about

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>inflation and deflation, but um, if you want to know

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>more about that, you should check out how much Money

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>is there in the world, are super Stuff, Guide to

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the Economy, stag Inflation. Those are all some good episodes

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we've done on that kind of thing. Yeah. Um, and

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned earlier, you know, I talked about I can

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>see how you might be incentivised to just print loads

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of money if you want more of it. Um, and

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>we've covered and other shows why that's a bad idea.

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>But never has it been more evident than in post

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>World War One Germany. Um, they had I mean, this

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>is amazing stuff. I think Zimbabwe beat them eventually, didn't they.

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't remember. It'swere hungry. Well, no, I think it

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 1>was Zimbabwe. UM, I don't know. Maybe it was hungry,

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>remember hungry. He had a revolution in the forties. That

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>was just staggering numbers of hyperinflation. Yeah, but this is

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good example of hyperinflation. Well, after World War One,

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Germany um owed and war reparations about thirty three billion

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>dollars in like, they didn't have that kind of money,

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.959
<v Speaker 1>so they said, well, let's just print a bunch of it. Uh,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and see what happened. Um. It's not gonna be backed

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>by any kind of commodity. Um. And it resulted in

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hyper inflation to the extent where in nineteen twenty three

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it was called, uh, the hyper inflation of the Weimer

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Republic from June one to January. It's because they funded

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the war through borrowing. Only they didn't like raise taxes

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to pay for the war. They literally borrowed money to

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>pay for World War One, and it resulted in eventually

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>forty two billion billion with a b German marks was

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>equal to one penny of US money, and I didn't

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>think that could be right, but it's right, yeah, um.

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 1>And it was so bad that they there was something

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>called a mental condition called zero stroke that it caused,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>which is when you're compelled to write endless rows of

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>zeros because when you see some of these numbers, it

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just you're like, is that even a number? When you're

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to do these calculations, and it it. There was

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>an influx of zero stroke in Germany at the time,

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I was wondered, like, how did Germany ever recover?

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>They basically started over again and said this isn't money anymore.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.439
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start over and we're gonna have a new

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>bank issues something called uh Deutsche marks no the um

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>rent rent a mark, and this is our new money.

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Not all that money is no good to start, but

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>this is actually back. There was a bank, the Deutschen Rent,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a bank mortgaged land and industrial goods to the tune

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of about three point two billion dollars like hard assets

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that we're backing this money. And it worked and it

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>turned around almost overnight to the point where a U.

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>S Dollar was worth four point to rent a marks

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>but a four point two billion, and I guess everyone

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>just got on boards, all right. That old money is

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>no good wallpaper your walls with it, and now we

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>have new money, you know. UM. A lot of historians

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>credit that really difficult period that Germany was put through,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>um or put itself through, depending on who you ask,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>after World War One is the reason why fascism was

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>allowed to take hold there. I believe it in the

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>lead up to World War two because I mean when

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I say it's stabilized, its stabilized the money overnight, but

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it still wasn't like they were still in bad shape.

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, it took a while to dig dig out

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>of that. Did you see that thing I sent you

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>on um um Cowry shells, Oh yeah, it's a little bit.

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Cowrie shells are sea snail shells. They're little, tiny white

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 1>shells that look porcelain and literally for about two thousand

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>years UM they were used as currency throughout the world,

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and they came almost exclusively from the Maldives, UM. And

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they would like, if you were a trader, you would

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>go down to the Maldives, you would buy about a

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>million uh cowarie shells for one gold dinar. Then you

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>go back to India or go to India and you

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>would sell ten thousand of them for a gold dinar,

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>so you could just make a ton of money overnight.

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>And then the further and further away they got from

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 1>the Maldives, and the closer and closer to China they got,

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>which is a country that used these things like crazy,

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>as they were worth more and more. Yeah, and the Maldives,

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 1>it's just like you just scoop up baskets full of them,

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and they were not nearly as valuable, but as you

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>got away from the Maldives, they grew more and more valuable,

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and they were used as currency literally until the mid

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century. I mean they started and we have the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest reference in about three fifty b C. And in

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen fifties is when the the currency finally collapsed,

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<v Speaker 1>just because there were so many of them on the

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<v Speaker 1>market that people would, you know, they would pay using

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<v Speaker 1>five in cowery shells and you'd have to count out

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred thousand cowery shells. And didnt they use them

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<v Speaker 1>because they were like pretty and they were hardy and

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like didn't break really easy. And yeah, plentiful small so

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>you can make change with them. Yeah, and people like them,

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>so therefore they became currency. But they lasted his currency

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<v Speaker 1>for like two thousand years. Again, all you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is agree that's something, although that's a weird thing,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>because that's something you can just go out and find

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're in the right part of the world, if

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you're in the right exactly, that's why they were less

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>valuable in the Maltives, more valuable like in China. So

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to talk etymology, Yeah, you said, what was

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the first one? He said, the buck comes from from

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>buckskin and the sawbuck. I don't know where the sawbuck

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is a tenner, right, I believe so the word fee

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>comes from the German word for cattle v v i

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<v Speaker 1>e h. Interesting right, yeah. Speaking of shells, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Pacific Northwest tribes used whop them, whamp them yea,

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>which were white shells um and the phrase shell out

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>comes from that, like when you pay somebody in shells,

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you were shelling out. I wonder if that's where clams

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<v Speaker 1>comes from. Probably, what's your funny word for money? Beans, bones, rock, samoleons, samoleians.

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I tried to look up Simoleon, because I think everyone

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>knows that's the cartoon, right currency, But I couldn't find anything.

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It kept defaulting and saying, do you mean Somali money?

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I mean Samoleon. I think it's um.

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I even put cartoons, and I couldn't find much of

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>anything except like I couldn't find an origin, like who

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 1>made that up? Let's say Napoleon since it rhymes maybe

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Jones. It's possible. I could ask our friend Jessica.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>She might know. You saw Charles Schultz's granddaughter emailed us. Huh, No,

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that. Yes, And now Chuck Jones's granddaughter

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and Charles Schultz's granddaughter are both stuff you should know fans,

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>which is uh pretty awesome waiting for a returne emails

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>like you gotta give me some inside story here, please

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>about Grandpa? Right exactly? Um? Do you want to know

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>the atomology of Semolean? Do you have it? Yeah? Man?

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>How did my Google uh skills not pan out? I

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<v Speaker 1>am proud of you, Chuck yeah for not saying yeah,

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>uh so Semolean is spelled s I M O L

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>e O N. It's an English word, all right. That's

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>where I got sidetracked. They think that it is a

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>late nineteenth century blend of simone, which is apparently a

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>French word for dollar and Napoleon. Really yeah, and why

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was it exclusive to cartoons? I don't know, but they

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>think it came from New Orleans in the late nineteenth century.

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>So simone um was either dollar or sixpence coin. It

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>was a British slang and Napoleon, so I guess that's

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>where Semolean came from. Would you get that? What's the

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>website words sense dot eu? All right? I believe that

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>dot eu that says at all. They have a clean

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>look to their website, which makes me believe that they

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>know what they're talking about. Yeah, when you look at

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a website, you can get a lot of information about

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>its accuracy, just if it looks like a MySpace page

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>from um, I hope my space is around in nineteen

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>because the penance will right in. Yeah, it wasn't my

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>space then my Space came about and the word dollar itself.

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>UM account in Czechoslovakia and a town called well, it

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter where it was. He started minting silver coins

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen nineteen and they were called uh Taller Grossian,

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.720
<v Speaker 1>which was shortened to Taller's and Taller eventually became dollar

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>in the United States today. And we talked in the

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Salt episode about how the word salary came from assault.

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So I looked again because I think he said that

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't true, that that's a myth, and it's not

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.479
<v Speaker 1>necessarily true. That it's a myth from what I can tell,

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just unproven. So in the first century, Pliny the Elder,

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the Roman historian, says a good beer too, that that's

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>what the words salt came from. Was they used to

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>pay soldiers in antiquity in salt. But he doesn't back

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>it up and they can't verify it. That's a good story. Yeah,

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>at the very least is about a two thousand year

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>old story. So let's go with you. It's true. Yeah.

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I had the history teacher in college, my best history

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>teacher ever, that said, never let facts get in the

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>way of a good story. I've heard that he was

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a good guy. I can't remember his name. He might

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>have had him. He was man. He was great. One

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>of my first big inspirational teachers in college. That is,

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I got you so much so that I don't remember

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>his name. That one guy. Uh. If you want to

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>learn more about currency, you should listen to any number

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of our episodes on currency, including this one again. Or

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you can type currency into the search part how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot Com. It will bring up this article. And

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>since I said search parts, time for a listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this rare shout out. We don't do

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>this a lot um, but I'm gonna do it today

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>because I like the cut of this dude's jib. My

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 1>name is Jared Bagnal exclamation point. I'm writing to see

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>if you could do a tribute to my wife, a

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Bree Bagnal your listener mail. I'm a huge fan of

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys, but my wife is most definitely your number

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>one fan. You can safely say that a few hundred

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of your listeners could be attributed to her alone. She

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>has dozens of people hooked on s Y s K

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and from them a dozen each. She's so excited every

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday and Thursday that your podcast comes out. She tells

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>everyone about them. She's the nicest person in the world, caring, sweet, shy,

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and deserve some recognition for being so awesome. Our one

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>year anniversary is coming up. Got married in Jamaica, and

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>though it was an amazing experience, she's obamed that we

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>couldn't go with our family. UM, I would like to see.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see if you could dedicate your

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<v Speaker 1>listener portion to her into our anniversary so everyone can

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>know that she's great. That's pretty nice, Chuck, Thanks Josh,

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Chuck and Jerry. Um did I spell that right? No?

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>You did not? How do you spell it? J e

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<v Speaker 1>r r Y. Let's just get it on the record

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<v Speaker 1>if we haven't before, j E R I, that's right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>For the five percent of people who listen to listener mail,

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<v Speaker 1>hey guys, this would be a great surprise for her

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<v Speaker 1>while running into your podcast to hear this tribute. So

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<v Speaker 1>Jared number two fan writing on behalf of Bree number

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<v Speaker 1>one fan, Happy anniversary. Way to go, way to make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the one year mark. I wish you many

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>many more years of happiness to come. We both do. Yes,

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking for Josh, although thanks man. Do you wish them?

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Of course I do? Okay, you're like, I'm glad for them? Yeah. Uh.

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>If you want to take your chances to see if

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck will give you or your loved on a shout

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<v Speaker 1>out on the episode you know the podcast That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I meant good luck uh exactly. You can try tweeting

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