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Speaker 1: That is the Kansas City Chiefs defense, which has been

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Speaker 1: episode of Defending the Kingdom will dive even deeper into

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Speaker 1: that defense, especially the safety position as Mike Edwards, the

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Speaker 1: former world champion with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beating the

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Speaker 1: the good side. But Steve Spagnolo is changing the way

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Speaker 1: that we in the Chiefs Kingdom look at safeties and

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Speaker 1: it's changing in the NFL as well. This Defending the Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco gets a forty eight yard touchdown run for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom. How everyone, I'm Mitchelt's voice of the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs joined by senior team reporter Matt McMullen. This episode's

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Speaker 1: going to be a fun one because we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the evolution of the safety position, not just

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Speaker 3: This is something that we've talked about for years now

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Speaker 3: with Steve Spagnolo that oftentimes defensive backs are that they're

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Speaker 3: seeing that with our safeties this season because they're so versatile.

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Speaker 3: They can do so many different things. And when you

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Speaker 3: showing confidence in his guys that they can do various things.

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Speaker 3: They can be a hybrid linebacker, they can be a

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Speaker 1: So again, Mike Edwards will join us later on in

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Just really a fascinating guy for a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons, but coming in here as a undrafted a

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Speaker 3: Got five for you once again, trying to get into

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Speaker 3: the rhythm with the five every week. I'll get to everyone, though,

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Speaker 3: I promise we had lots of submissions this week.

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Speaker 1: We've got any Saudi Arabians that got a lot of

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 3: Nothing from Saudi Arabia this week. If you're in Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 3: let us know. I do have Brandy from Winterport, Maine,

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Speaker 3: yep Oscars from London and he'll be going to the

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Speaker 1: He's not into the London Jaguars, who's playing in London

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Speaker 3: Well, I bet he's wearing his Chiefs jersey around London

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Speaker 3: this past weekend and this upcoming weekend, when for sure

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Speaker 3: the Jags play in London once again.

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Speaker 1: Against the Bills. Wear that jersey, man, we've already played

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Speaker 1: the Jags beat the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Carlos is from the Dominican Republic listening to DTK, Steve,

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Speaker 3: this is a cool one. He's in the Phoenix area.

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Speaker 3: He was a season ticket member though for twenty three years,

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Speaker 1: For listen about priorities in life. Now it is that's

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Speaker 1: Love it. Love our defending the Kingdom fans all around

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Speaker 1: the world, and you should be loving this Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Particularly in that Jets game, think about the circumstances. The

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Speaker 1: It was the equivalent of a pick six. Now we

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Speaker 1: an unassisted tackle. In essence, The value of that play

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Speaker 1: edited version. In the unedited version, you would see Matt,

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Speaker 1: you'll see it. But this is a very common sign.

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Speaker 1: Do it, Matt, Sop that what we're talking about, we're

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Speaker 2: You'll give it.

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Speaker 1: You'll we have meetings before the game, and I said,

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Speaker 1: Sop is a whole other episode. We did that last year,

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Speaker 1: Because it's so different in the last two to three

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Speaker 3: And that's why we call it big nickel, right A

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Speaker 3: You have a player who's capable of being the second

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Mike Edwards, it's awesome to have you here

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Speaker 4: And man, you've made an immediate impact, yes, sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Grant turnovers is my big thing, trying to get the

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Speaker 3: We'll start with the Jets game last week, particularly the

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Speaker 4: We was actually doubling Garretson in that play and l

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Speaker 1: Well, you've been a playmaker and the ball hawk, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we was in man coverage and had a tight end,

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Speaker 4: I ended up watching it. We had some guys open it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a trick play, so but

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Speaker 2: So glad I got that.

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Speaker 3: Justin made a great play on that to deflect the pass.

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Speaker 4: He's a smart guy, wow, and and he was kind

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Speaker 4: I had to eat the job. He made a phenomenal

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Speaker 2: The ones you're supposed to case. Yeah, the tough one.

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Speaker 1: Matt and I are waiting for the first Chiefs Kingdom

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Speaker 1: pick six could be this week. You know, Minnesota leads

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Speaker 1: I'd pay money to watch him play. So I'm against

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Speaker 1: you play some baseball?

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Speaker 1: So is that where it comes from, all these ball skills.

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Speaker 2: What's that say about Brian Oh, he's he works.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm like, that does not go on in order.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he did. He didn't play.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so he's big.

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Speaker 1: It's a Cincinnati thing, you know, it's just all Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: pass the ball once?

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Speaker 3: Come on, Now, you were probably okay, but there were

441
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Speaker 3: probably a bunch of guys that looked like Mitch and

442
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Speaker 3: I on that defense trying to tackle David Montgomery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, we what sixteen, however old you are,

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Speaker 4: and it was like they got some big guys out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like David Montgomery. He was.

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Speaker 4: He was a big back then too, so he got

447
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Speaker 4: some He grows some pounds on now, but he was

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Speaker 4: still pretty big back then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some one hundred and thirty pound linebackers trying to

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Speaker 3: tackle right David Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's don't undersell the Wintonwoods Warriors here, which is

452
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Speaker 1: the alma mater of Mike Edwards. And one thing we

453
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Speaker 1: always look into the background. But you were transformational in

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Speaker 1: changing Kentucky football. You got him to a top ten

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Speaker 1: battle against Georgia. It was eight versus nine and Kentucky

456
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Speaker 1: thought to be Hoops right all that and with coach Stoops,

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Speaker 1: Matt House who was here as defensive coordinator, as your guy,

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Speaker 1: but you guys changed Kentucky football.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yeah, I was pretty much the main reason

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Speaker 4: why I came to Kentucky. Why committed to Kentucky. You

461
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Speaker 4: had some top off we offer them all over the place,

462
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Speaker 4: but I wanted to go to a place where I can,

463
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Speaker 4: you know, say I was one of the guys that

464
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Speaker 4: could change the program around. It started in thirteen. He

465
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Speaker 4: got the Stoops got there in thirteen. I got there

466
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Speaker 4: in fourteen, and our class was that class. It was

467
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Speaker 4: just like, all right, it might be that class, you

468
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Speaker 4: know what I mean. So we got some guys come

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Speaker 4: in and we just we just felt it like we

470
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Speaker 4: always felt it from the day we stepped on campus.

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Speaker 4: We was like, yeah, we go take this program over,

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Speaker 4: in which we did, and every year we got better,

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Speaker 4: like literally every year we got.

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Speaker 2: Better, improved our record every year.

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Speaker 4: I think my last year, senior year, we went ten

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Speaker 4: and three maybe yeah, ten and three, So that was

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Speaker 4: a big I think that was the biggest, the best

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Speaker 4: record we'd had in school history.

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Speaker 2: So that was big.

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Speaker 4: Beat Florida for the first time in thirty one years

481
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Speaker 4: over thirty one years my senior year. So yeah, we

482
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Speaker 4: did some things at my college career.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: We'll close it out this way. But I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you, and again we're talking with Mike Edwards. The

486
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Speaker 1: safety position seems to be in this whirlwind change. What

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Speaker 1: have you seen since you entered the league? And what

488
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Speaker 1: do you see with spags? Because Matt and I Matt

489
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Speaker 1: helps me spot during the games. Three safeties for safeties.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's getting crazy. What are you see in

491
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Speaker 1: the NFL? In disposition, you have to be versatile, You

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Speaker 1: got to be interchangeable. I mean, back then, you know

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Speaker 1: the traditional safeties, you know box safeties. Are you gotta

494
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Speaker 1: those two hundred and fifty pounds safeties pretty much light linebackers.

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Speaker 4: But now you have to be able to cover receivers.

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Speaker 4: You got to be able to blitz play in a

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Speaker 4: post play deep half. You got to do a lot

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Speaker 4: of things, especially in this in spags defense, you got

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Speaker 4: to do. He likes the safeties interchangeable, lik him to

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Speaker 4: play out over the field, and like the way he's

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Speaker 4: using me. You see, I'm all over the field, blitzing

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Speaker 4: up in the up in the A gap and they

503
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Speaker 4: don't know if I'm coming or if I'm dropping back

504
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Speaker 4: or whatever. So I love the way he has our safeties.

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Speaker 4: We have phenomenal safeties. Jay Ree is our a vocal

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Speaker 4: leader back there, and he takes a control over defense.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, Brian Cook, he's learning very well.

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Speaker 4: He's doing good on that back end. And tomorrow's rookie

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Speaker 4: it comes in. So like I said, we have four

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Speaker 4: Saftis in there. We might have fourth ades in there

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Speaker 4: at a time, you know what I mean. So it's

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Speaker 4: it's a great defense, great defense to be part of,

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Speaker 4: great defits to play for, and I just love it.

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Speaker 1: He is the ballhawk. Mike Edwards. We're waiting for that

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Speaker 1: first Chiefs Kingdom pick six coming soon. So we're waiting

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Speaker 1: on that pick six from Mike Edwards. You know it's coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's and he's got those baseball skills, it

518
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Speaker 1: may all make sense. He has such good ball skills

519
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Speaker 1: once again fits into the whole versatility of the safety position.

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Speaker 1: You see the Cincinnati Red shortstop in this guy.

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Speaker 3: One thing that's kind of hard to quantify beyond like

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Speaker 3: the obvious with like interceptions and pick sixes, is just

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Speaker 3: the ability to make plays from the safety position and

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Speaker 3: really defensive backs in general. There's a lot of players

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Speaker 3: that come through the NFL who are maybe very good players,

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Speaker 3: but they just don't make plays, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: They don't take the ball away, they don't make big

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Speaker 3: plays on third down. They're fine, but they don't have

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Speaker 3: big moments like Mike Edwards has had in his career.

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Speaker 3: Mike Edwards makes plays, and that's something that we were

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Speaker 3: excited about with him coming over from Tampa. He has

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Speaker 3: a true ballhawk. I mean three pick six's in his career.

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Speaker 3: That's hard to do. He did that in a two

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Speaker 3: year span as well, and also has gotten his hands

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Speaker 3: in the football many other times and just not scored.

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Speaker 3: We saw it in Week three against the Bears, and

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Speaker 3: I just know it with a guy like that, the

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Speaker 3: football finds him, So hopefully it finds him this week.

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Speaker 1: You just wonder if that opportunity will be there for

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Speaker 1: Mike this week. The Minnesota Vikings are really, really talented.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson's amazing. He's shattering records in his first three

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Speaker 1: years and four games in the National Football League, But

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Speaker 1: they have eleven giveaways. The Vikings right now are one

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Speaker 1: and three, primarily because they have eleven giveaways. They have

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Speaker 1: lost lost seven fumbles in four weeks. You just one

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Speaker 1: or if there's not going to be a chance here

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Speaker 1: for the safety group and especially Mike Edwards to get one,

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Speaker 1: either a pick or a fumble recovery and do something

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota is a super interesting study really on both sides

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Speaker 3: of the ball. But we'll stick with the offense. It's

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Speaker 3: the number nine total offense in the NFL, so they're

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Speaker 3: racking up a bunch of yards. Kirk Cousins has the

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Speaker 3: most completions and the most passing touchdowns in the NFL

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Speaker 3: this season, Justin Jefferson leaves the NFL and receiving yards

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Speaker 3: and receptions of twenty five or more yards. They have

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Speaker 3: the most twenty yard passing plays in the NFL this

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Speaker 3: year with nineteen, and that includes an NFL most five

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Speaker 3: passing touchdowns of twenty or more yards. They're throwing the

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Speaker 3: ball a lot. They have the third most passing attempts

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Speaker 3: in the NFL with one hundred and fifty seven. And

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Speaker 3: they've got playmakers guys like Jordan Addison, first round pick

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Speaker 3: out of usc kJ Osbourne is a big play threat.

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Speaker 3: So why are they not winning more games?

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Speaker 1: And don't forget TJ.

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Speaker 3: Hilkinson in this sure really good tight They traded four

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Speaker 3: at the deadline last year. Well, why aren't they the

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Speaker 3: scoring more points? The answer is the turnovers. And if

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Speaker 3: you look at the red zone efficiency this year, they

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Speaker 3: are tied for the lowest red zone scoring percentage in

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Speaker 3: the NFL at sixty seven percent. They have four red

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Speaker 3: zone drives this season where they have not scored. I'm

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Speaker 3: not talking about just touchdowns. They have not scored on

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Speaker 3: four red zone drives this year. It's the most of

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Speaker 3: any team in the NFL. They have three red zone giveaways,

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Speaker 3: so they have eleven total, which leads the NFL. Three

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Speaker 3: of those in the red zone. It's very difficult to

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Speaker 3: win in the NFL. Are few are turning the ball

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Speaker 3: over in the red zone. Now, those kinds of things

580
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Speaker 3: are kind of random at the same time. So the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs have to be ready for this opponent because they've

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Speaker 3: shown that they can move the ball. They have lots

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Speaker 3: of talent, and if Mike Edwards sees the football flying

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Speaker 3: his way in the red zone, just you know, have

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Speaker 3: a nine to nine yard pick six like we saw

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Speaker 3: the Panthers have against Kirk Cousins last week.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to respect the Minnesota Vikings and

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Speaker 1: respect the safety position, maybe the screen shot for safeties

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Speaker 1: right now in the National Football League is Harrison Smith.

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Speaker 1: He had fourteen tackles last week and probably maybe save

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Speaker 1: Minnesota season because he came on a blitz on a

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Speaker 1: sack strip that was taken all the way back for

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Speaker 1: a scoop and score. Harrison Smith is what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: these wildly talented safeties who can he can cover, he'll tackle,

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Speaker 1: he's a rough tackler, good player, he can come on

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Speaker 1: a blitz like a speed rusher. And so we talk

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Speaker 1: about the safety position and how it's being revolutionized in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, you have to look no further

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Speaker 1: than the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Harrison Smith, really good player, three sacks on the year,

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Speaker 3: and they'll use them in different ways.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Really interesting note though, on this Vikings defense, they blitz

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Speaker 3: a ton. They have the highest blitz rate of any

605
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Speaker 3: team in the NFL. They're blitzing sixty percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: A couple weeks ago against the Chargers, they blitzed Justin

607
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Speaker 3: Herbert forty two times. Forty two times on Justin Herbert

608
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Speaker 3: they brought a blitz. They blitzed the Price Young eighteen

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Speaker 3: times last week. And even more interesting, note they have

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Speaker 3: the fifth lowest pressure rate in the NFL. So they're

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Speaker 3: blitzing but not getting a lot of pressure. But when

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Speaker 3: they do, obviously can throw the offense off balance. So

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Speaker 3: for the Chiefs in this game, cannot let the blitz

614
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Speaker 3: get home because they're gonna blitz Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: It's what they do.

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Speaker 1: And how many receptions did Keenan Allen have in that

617
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Speaker 1: game for the Chargers eighteen underneath reception, all underneath it. So,

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Speaker 1: but it's just about the safeties for the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: really around the National Football League, and that is the

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Speaker 1: evolution of the safety position. He's Matt McMullen, I'm Mitchelter's

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Speaker 1: voice of the Chiefs. Time to go get a fourth victory,