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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off now. Great to have you all with us,

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Speaker 2: and we've got the continued confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 2: for Trump appointees. We are gaze away from inauguration Day,

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Speaker 2: Trump two point zero Trump, the sequeill Trump parts deuh.

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Speaker 2: All of these things going to be occurring, very exciting,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to dive into what we think is

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Speaker 2: going to be happening the first week. Clay and I'll

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Speaker 2: actually be up in DC fighting through the crowds, but

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Speaker 2: among the people, among the people on the streets of

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Speaker 2: our nation's cat.

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Speaker 3: How many things are by dragging you around to that

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Speaker 3: otherwise you would refuse to get You would not have

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Speaker 3: gone to the rn C, probably right, And you wanted

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Speaker 3: to murder me when it was one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: degrees and we were trying to go through security for

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Speaker 3: the first day.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna tell everybody, but yeah, Clay is not lying.

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Speaker 1: He's correct.

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Speaker 3: It was the hottest day at Milwaukee for the first

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Speaker 3: couple of days that we were there. You wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: gone to that. Would you have gone to the inauguration.

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Speaker 2: Can either confirm nor deny, But I would say dragging

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Speaker 2: Buck all over the country to big events for crowds

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Speaker 2: and in festivity and forvolity. Because Clay is used to

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Speaker 2: you know, sec football games with you know, eighty to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty thousand people all gathered together. He's

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Speaker 2: very crowd prepped and crowd ready, and like feels that.

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Speaker 1: Excitement and that energy.

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Speaker 2: I like to wear sweatshirts and be in my quiet home.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really.

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Speaker 2: Eating pistachio ass ice cream. Eating pistachio cremberlet or ice cream.

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Speaker 2: I'll take either one. So we're a bit of an

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Speaker 2: odd couple that way. And I'll just say though that

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Speaker 2: I am going to the inauguration with Clay. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have a great time. So while we're standing

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Speaker 2: in security lines and freezing our butts off in that

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Speaker 2: DC weather, it's gonna be really I'm leaving. Miami's really

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Speaker 2: rough right now. It's about seventy five degrees. There's a

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Speaker 2: light breeze. I'm decited to be standing outside in security

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Speaker 2: lines in a suit which I never wear, getting padded

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Speaker 2: down for the security of this inauguration. So it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be great. It's gonna be great. We're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: But yes, we've got that coming up. We've got let

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Speaker 2: me see more here on Trump weighing in on the wildfires,

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Speaker 2: Biden's last few days, including an action that he took

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Speaker 2: on Cuba that's surprising some people. We've got more on that,

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Speaker 2: we'll have some discussion about. I honestly think all these nominees,

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Speaker 2: this is not very exciting of a news story so far.

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Speaker 1: I think all these Trump.

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Speaker 2: Nominees are likely to get through. But let's dive into

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Speaker 2: something else here. We can draw upon Clay's recent trip

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Speaker 2: to the region for some specifically on the ground analysis here.

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Speaker 2: But the big breaking news headline right as we came

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Speaker 2: on the air, Israel and Hamas agree to a deal

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Speaker 2: to pause the fighting in Gaza. This is what we're hearing.

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Speaker 2: Israel Hamas have agreed to a pause in the fighting

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Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip, according to Arab mediators, opening a pathway

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Speaker 2: to end a fifteen month war that has laid waste

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Speaker 2: to the enclave, threatened to spark a regional conflict and

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Speaker 2: royal politics in the West. The deal is expected to

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Speaker 2: be implemented in three phases will begin with the exchange

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Speaker 2: of some of the hostages held in Gaza for Palestinian

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Speaker 2: prisoners in Israeli jails. Negotiators including Steve Whitcoff, president Elect

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Speaker 2: Trump's designated Middle East Envoy, along with officials from US, Israel,

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Speaker 2: and Arab countries, reconvened at midday in Doha Cutter to

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Speaker 2: finalize the draft.

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Speaker 1: According to the sources.

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Speaker 2: So it's looking like a breakthrough here, Clay, What do

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Speaker 2: Trump's envoy clearly involved. I think Trump does ers all

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Speaker 2: the credit for this ceasefire, and as secondary to that,

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Speaker 2: everybody who voted for Trump deserves credit here. When I

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Speaker 2: change basically overnight. As soon as Trump won the Hamas

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Speaker 1: The details here from what I am.

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Speaker 3: Reading and this news just breaking right as we're coming

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Speaker 1: Remember there are still women and children.

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Speaker 3: Being held, as well as men over the age of

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Speaker 3: fifty and people with medical related issues. Now you and

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Speaker 3: I were talking about this off air, can you imagine

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Speaker 3: we're talking about coming up on five hundred days. I

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Speaker 3: believe of captivity for many of these innocent people who

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Speaker 3: have seen sunlight for that entire period of time. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: all the bombings going on, the fact that you don't

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Speaker 1: It's a level of.

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Speaker 3: Basically just psychological torture over and above whatever the physical

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Speaker 3: aspects of this are, the likes of which very few

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Speaker 3: all of the hostages to come home. This is a

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Speaker 3: very big focus in Israel, as we mentioned Buck, When

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Speaker 3: they have all of the different placards for the individual

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Speaker 3: they land, they say, bring our hostages home. When you

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Speaker 3: It is a obsession the likes of which we have

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Speaker 3: not ever had anything similar in the United States to

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Speaker 3: get these hostages back. And the analogy I think I

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Speaker 3: apropos in some respect. Imagine if on September the eleventh,

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Speaker 3: hostages home is the focus. Whether this ceasefire holds or

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Speaker 3: have a ceasefire with Hesbola. But I think this is

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Speaker 3: one of the most consequential results on foreign policy of

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Speaker 3: Trump's win. I don't think it's coincidental that he said

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Speaker 3: they'll be held to pay if these hostages are not

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Speaker 3: back by the time he takes office, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of the hostages are now going to be back, what

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Speaker 3: five days before Donald Trump officially takes the oath of office.

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Speaker 1: I think that this is.

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Speaker 2: Indicative of the change of the changing of the guard,

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Speaker 2: if you will, that's happening in DC with Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: As we've discussed, there's no contingent.

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Speaker 2: There's no group within the Republican MAGA party that is

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Speaker 2: Hamas terror attack. So that clearly changes the calculation a bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no reason for Biden to have waited

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Speaker 2: the election. Obviously, it's not like this isn't a thing

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Speaker 2: long time there. I mean you, I'm sure Clay experiences

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Speaker 1: With every day Israelis as part of your trip.

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Speaker 2: They recognized that they had their nine to eleven and

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Speaker 2: And Israel has fought back valiantly against this and taken

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Speaker 2: is look, we just we want the hostages to come home.

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Speaker 2: It's a shame that has taken as long as it has,

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Speaker 2: But I think that you're going to see a lot

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Speaker 2: the response from people Clay will be wait, why did

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Speaker 2: it take Trump winning and coming in for this to happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, they'll be common sense, straightforward, even on foreign

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Speaker 2: But just remember this. These things can get done, but

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Speaker 1: And his team.

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Speaker 2: And it's worth asking why that is or why it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two of the things that I would point out

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Speaker 3: it was inconsequential. Pete heg Seth, who's going to take

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Speaker 3: What's your perspective on Israel and Hamas he said, I

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Speaker 3: a precipitous shift I think in the overall policy of

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Speaker 3: The other thing I'll say is history rhymes, it often

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Speaker 3: doesn't repeat itself. This is another analogy with Jimmy Carter

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Speaker 3: as Ronald Reagan came into office, suddenly the Iranian hostages

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Speaker 3: by Hamas that may or may not be alive, and

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Speaker 3: when Ronald Reagan came into office, suddenly the Iranian hostage

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Speaker 3: as an albatross over Jimmy Carter's head, and it took

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Speaker 1: This to me is another one of.

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Speaker 3: Those echoes that suggest, hey, there's a lot of rhyman

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Speaker 3: and connection between the Jimmy Carter regime and the Joe

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Speaker 3: they rhyme, They're not one hundred percent analogous, but this

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Speaker 3: would be another situation that somewhat is evocative. I would

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Speaker 2: I will say it's funny because I mentioned yesterday the

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Speaker 2: Now it looks like Democrats are all defeated and destroyed,

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Speaker 2: Governing is hard, YadA, YadA, YadA. But I just bring

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this.

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Speaker 1: You know, JB. Pritzker has got the Chris Christy issue. Buck.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's kind of just a fat guy, and

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Speaker 1: He doesn't really like Jews. Now, I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. Big news as we

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Speaker 3: started the show today, a ceasefire between the Israeli government

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Speaker 3: the show, Yell Exstein, who runs the IFCJ, the International

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much, Clayon Buck and firstly, thank

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Speaker 5: Every Israelis right now holding their breath until we see

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I think that really we have

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Speaker 3: That would be incredibly important. Also important is people being

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Speaker 5: That's a great question. I would hope it would be

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Speaker 5: a way, it's even more experienced for important for the

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Speaker 5: Israelis to be able to see we have friends, We're

438
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Speaker 5: not alone. That Christians come to Israel, and that Americans

439
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Speaker 5: come to Israel to see the site and to stand

440
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Speaker 5: with Israeli people is something that you can't put any

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Speaker 5: price tag on. It inspires us more than anything in

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Speaker 5: the world. So I hope that they will be able

443
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Speaker 5: to come and visit soon with airlines, LAU and others.

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Speaker 5: And in the meanwhile, the International Fellowship with Christians and

445
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Speaker 5: Jews is on the ground through soup kitchens and food boxes,

446
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Speaker 5: feeding the hungry, quothing the naked, sheltering the floor, letting

447
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Speaker 5: Israelis know that very very important message They're not alone.

448
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Speaker 5: The American people stand with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeahill, thank you so much for calling in today, and

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Speaker 2: also just for the partnership with the International Fellowship of

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Speaker 2: Christians and Jews. Honored to be working with you for

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Speaker 2: this noble cause. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Claim, Thank you guys are amazing. Thank you for everything.

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Speaker 5: God bless you.

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Speaker 3: UMAs and Israel reaching a hostage negotiation deal that would

456
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Speaker 3: be a ceasefire that would lead to the release of

457
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Speaker 3: thirty three hostages.

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Speaker 1: We will see how this continues to play out.

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Speaker 3: Credit for a ceasefire emerging to Donald Trump. We will

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Speaker 3: see how all of this continues, and we'll take your

461
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Speaker 3: calls and react to that. We've broken that down in

462
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Speaker 3: the first hour talking about the challenges in LA. The

463
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Speaker 3: number of people that are finally going to say, Buck,

464
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Speaker 3: I'm done in California because they're looking around and they're saying,

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Speaker 3: LA can't even put out fires. And I think this

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Speaker 3: is so important. It's the continuing legacy of COVID. Where

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Speaker 3: a lot of you out there listening to us right now,

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Speaker 3: Buck is one of them, lived in traditional blue states

469
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Speaker 3: and you finally, because of COVID, got fed up and

470
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Speaker 3: started living different places to do your jobs. And you

471
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Speaker 3: have found out, Hey, I don't have to be in

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Speaker 3: New York or Chicago or LA in order to do

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Speaker 3: my job on the same level. And here's what I

474
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Speaker 3: think this is indicative of, Buck. And I'm curious if

475
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Speaker 3: you would buy in because this certainly helps your own

476
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: personal decision to move from New York to Florida. As

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Speaker 3: you see people and where I live in Tennessee and

478
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: I'm a native Tennesseean, but the number of people moving

479
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Speaker 3: in here have made the state redder. Florida got redder,

480
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Speaker 3: Texas got redder. The people that are leaving California and

481
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Speaker 3: New York and the Chicago area in Illinois are often

482
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Speaker 3: the biggest taxpayers in those communities, and when they leave,

483
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: they don't just uproot their families and potentially their businesses,

484
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Speaker 3: They take all of their tax dollars out. And when

485
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Speaker 3: those tax dollars leave, already inefficient governments that are taking

486
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: a lot of money and not providing very much in

487
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: result become even more inefficient, become even more in debt

488
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Speaker 3: in hak because state budgets have to typically be balanced,

489
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Speaker 3: and the quality of life, whether it's put out fires

490
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: or picking up garbage or putting criminals in prison, becomes

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Speaker 3: less of a quality of life, and people who have

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to leave leave And here's what I see happening,

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Speaker 3: and I think this is going to be a big

494
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Speaker 3: legacy story over the next decade plus. All of those

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Speaker 3: places they're moving to, the flywheel becomes virtuous, there's more

496
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Speaker 3: tax dollars, services get better, the overall quality of life

497
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Speaker 3: in a place like Texas or Tennessee or Florida skyrockets.

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Speaker 3: The overall quality of life in those older places gets worse,

499
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Speaker 3: and it accelerates in getting worse, which then accelerates the

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Speaker 3: people who can leave leaving and I actually think we're

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Speaker 3: in a doom spiral in some degree in California, in

502
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Speaker 3: the Chicago area, and in New York in particular, because

503
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Speaker 3: people who are paying the taxes are like, I'm out

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Speaker 3: my neighbors A lot of them are from New York,

505
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Speaker 3: Chicago area and California. Now they're coming in, They're buying

506
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Speaker 3: big houses, they're putting their kids in schools, They're flowing

507
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Speaker 3: all of their taxpayer dollars here. And where I live

508
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Speaker 3: in Tennessee and I know where you live in Florida, Buck,

509
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: it actually makes everything better for everybody there and even

510
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: gives more incentive for people to leave. And I think

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Speaker 3: in both directions that gap is going to continue to grow.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and remember there's also the long term implications not

513
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Speaker 2: just of the tax base in terms of what people

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Speaker 2: pay for income tax, but also business investment and long

515
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Speaker 2: term business growth. You've seen an enormous amount of companies

516
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Speaker 2: and this has been going on for a long time,

517
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: but particularly moving to Texas, but now more and more

518
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: are setting up shop or headquarters in Florida and Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: And I think there are other red or redder states

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Speaker 2: as well that have been major beneficiaries of this.

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Speaker 3: I think you can say Nevada and Arizona a lot

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Speaker 3: of Californians. I mean, I thought that it was funny

523
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Speaker 3: when Adam Krola said he's relocating his families lifelong California

524
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Speaker 3: to Nevada. Was it our congressman who called in when

525
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: you were caught in traffic on Monday? He's like, you're

526
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Speaker 3: moving to a desert in Nevada from the Garden of Eden. Right,

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Speaker 3: It's not only that people are leaving California. It's that

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Speaker 3: California has so many gifts, perfect climate, beautiful location, but

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Speaker 3: it's become so inefficient that people are moving to actual

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Speaker 3: deserts in Arizona and Nevada rather than live basically in

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Speaker 3: the Garden of Eden in southern California.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we spoke to Ryan Gradusky about this recently.

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Speaker 2: He's got a great podcast on the Clay and Buck

534
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: Network about the implications of this continued migration of Americans

535
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Speaker 2: from one state to another for the census and for

536
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Speaker 2: the apportionment of congressional seats, which is going to be

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Speaker 2: very favorable for a lot of these very red states

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Speaker 2: because people are moving to them. And I just think

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Speaker 2: that you've seen too much of what happens when you

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Speaker 2: get to a Democrat political monoculture, when you have a

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Speaker 2: one party state, whether it's New York or California, and

542
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Speaker 2: there are other states as well, it is too much dysfunction,

543
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Speaker 2: too much of a tax burden, and people are are.

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Speaker 1: Fed up with it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, this is the system working. I would

546
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Speaker 2: just say, this is federalism. This is how it is

547
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: supposed to be. States get to do a lot, right.

548
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: States are left to do a lot that has not

549
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Speaker 2: prescribed for the federal government in the Constitution. And people

550
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: get to move with their feet and with their tax

551
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Speaker 2: dollars from one state to another. And this is it's

552
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Speaker 2: a bit like creating a market system for Americans. Where

553
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Speaker 2: do you want to live, Where do you want to go,

554
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Where do you want to be? So I think in

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Speaker 2: a sense, this is part of the genius of the

556
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Speaker 2: founding that is working. It just means that they're going

557
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: to be winners and losers within the states, just like

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Speaker 2: there are winners and losers in any free market. And

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Speaker 2: this is the market functioning, right, This is the way

560
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Speaker 2: it is supposed to be. We'll see if some of

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Speaker 2: these states become a little more, a little more serious

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Speaker 2: about what they're doing. You see that we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to go back because you made quite a prediction, Clay.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to leave this on the cutting room floor.

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Speaker 2: It looks like Andrew Cuomo is going to be the

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Speaker 2: next governor, I'm sorry, the next mayor of New York

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Speaker 2: City after.

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Speaker 3: This may be the longest form prediction. We need to

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Speaker 3: find the audio of me saying this when he resigned

570
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Speaker 3: or was it.

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Speaker 1: Won't be that hard.

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Speaker 2: The day the day of the resignation, Clay shouted out

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Speaker 2: that Andrew Cuomo, because he resigned instead of being forced

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Speaker 2: out as governor now is going to make a political comeback.

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Speaker 2: And that does seem to be underway. And here's what

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Speaker 2: I think. This is why this ties in for me,

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Speaker 2: Clay to the red state blue state phenomenon that is

578
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: so apparent with California right now. I think he's just

579
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: going to come in and do what was the most

580
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: obvious thing of all, which is make do whatever has

581
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: to be done to bring crime down in New York

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Speaker 2: and specific in New York City. I know that's NYPD,

583
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: but the state government can have a lot of you know,

584
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of money that goes into the subway

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Speaker 2: system that state affiliated.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the state can do a lot.

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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: The state can provide, you know, state troopers if they

588
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: want to to, you know, help help as auxiliaries for

589
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: the NYPD, they bring down crime. And then then Cuomo

590
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: can start to position himself, as you know, if he

591
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: becomes mayor as the moderate Democrat alternative, and that doesn't

592
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Speaker 2: just end with him being mayor of New York City, everybody,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be talked about the politics of personal destruction.

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Speaker 1: I don't think him liking to give I like to

595
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Speaker 1: give a smooch. I like to grab ladies sometimes give

596
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Speaker 1: him a smooch.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to stop him from running

598
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Speaker 2: for president. I know this is crazy talk, but it's not.

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Speaker 3: If he wins the New York City mayor's race and

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Speaker 3: you can go back, we can find the audio whenever

601
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: that was. It is his political comeback. It's him saying

602
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: I was treated unfairly. And to your point, New York

603
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: City basically just needs a new rooty Juwelei to clean

604
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: up the mess. And if that were to happen, he

605
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: would use that as his springing off point to run

606
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Speaker 3: for president in twenty twenty eight. It feels inevitable to

607
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Speaker 3: me that that's what his plan is.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: He could still lose, but there's polls out there that

610
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: show that he would be a prohibited favorite to be

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Speaker 3: elected New York City mayor. Here's the challenge buck on

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Speaker 3: all of this. What you just said is the entire

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Speaker 3: purpose of federalism that states compete and we use each

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Speaker 3: individual state as a laboratory. It's a brilliant concept. It's

615
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: almost like venture capital back in the day. Right, We're

616
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Speaker 3: going to take experiments. Vermont can try something and if

617
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Speaker 3: it works, then New York should do it, and then

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Speaker 3: California should do it. Here's the problem I see. In

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Speaker 3: order for there to be a course correction, people in

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Speaker 3: those states have to recognize that voting for Democrats is

621
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Speaker 3: what created the problem that they have in abled themselves.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing to me about California right now. If

623
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Speaker 3: you're looking around and you're listening to us, and we

624
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: have a monster audience north to south, and six million

625
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: people in California voted for Trump, roughly forty some odd

626
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Speaker 3: percent of the state, You guys get it. You're like,

627
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 3: my goodness, I'm born and raised. This is a beautiful state.

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Speaker 3: It gave us Ronald Reagan. It wasn't very long ago

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Speaker 3: that Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor. Pete Wilson, you may

630
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: not love them, but there used to be a vibrant

631
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Speaker 3: Republican Party Richard Nixon that came out of California. So

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Speaker 3: there is a long history in your Belinda and in

633
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: Orange County with Nixon and with Reagan and all of

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Speaker 3: those histories. What makes Californians look in the mirror and say,

635
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: we can't even put fires out now? Who are voting Democrat?

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Speaker 1: Y'all are listening to me.

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Speaker 3: Right now, and you're like preach, You're preaching to the

638
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: choir clay. But in order for things to really change,

639
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: the sixty percent of people that showed up and voted

640
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris and thanked the Lord as you watch

641
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: those fires burned, can you imagine if we had a

642
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: California Democrat like Kamala Harris DEEI never really accomplished anything,

643
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: suddenly in charge of the whole nation like Karen bass

644
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: Is in charge of LA. We dodged a bullet. Trump

645
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 3: dodged a bullet. Think the Lord or else he would

646
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 3: be dead and the whole country would have been screwed.

647
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: But what is the solution here? It requires California Democrats

648
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: to look in the mirror and say, we caused this.

649
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: It's almost like they have to have But the analogy

650
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: we made is like alcoholics have to recognize that they're

651
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: the alcoholic everybody else can see it. Drug addicts have

652
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: to see that they're drug addicts in order to change

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Speaker 3: their behavior. Democrat voters have to look in the mirror

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Speaker 3: and be like, like, we cause this. We have put

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Speaker 3: in place a government that can't put fires out. We

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Speaker 3: have to fix this. Are they willing to do so?

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Speaker 3: Or is their personal branding so connected to the Democrat

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Speaker 3: Party that they won't make rational changes?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting as well.

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Speaker 2: There's a there's an old kind of political joke or

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Speaker 2: trope about how the moment you want to cut anything,

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Speaker 2: it's fire it's always fireman first, right, meaning that, oh,

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Speaker 2: you want to mess with the city budget, I guess

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Speaker 2: you don't want anyone to arrive when the firefighters need

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Speaker 2: to be there. And that's how you shut down any

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Speaker 2: talk about government spending or cuts. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: how big government kind of emotionally or psychologically holds people, holds, populations,

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Speaker 2: captive firemen. Like this is what you get to the

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Speaker 2: very most baseline things you expect government to be able

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Speaker 2: to do and what we pay taxes for. Police and fire,

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Speaker 2: I think are the two first things that come to mind,

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Speaker 2: right cause you know, you need to not have the

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Speaker 2: purge there. You can't have anarchy in the streets, people

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Speaker 2: stealing your stuff, hurting you, et cetera. And you also

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Speaker 2: can't just have people's whole neighborhoods burning down. You know,

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Speaker 2: these are some of the first things if you go

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Speaker 2: back to like the early Dutch settlement in America on

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Speaker 2: you know, the bottom of Manhattan, right if you go

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Speaker 2: back then, what are things that they would have set

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Speaker 2: up right away, probably like a night watch, police and fire.

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Speaker 2: You know, fire comes very early on. So when you

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Speaker 2: can't do that even close to effective enough, it forces

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Speaker 2: that most important of questions, what would you say you

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Speaker 2: do here Los Angeles government? What would you say you

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Speaker 2: do other than take our money, other than make it

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Speaker 2: legal to steal in you know, CVS and Dwayne Reid.

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Speaker 3: Do you understand my thought? Are they going to recognize

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Speaker 3: that they caused the problem that their addiction to the

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Speaker 3: Democrat Party has created a situation where they can't put

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Speaker 3: out fires. That's what has to happen in New York,

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Speaker 3: but in California, in particular in Illinois, they all moved

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Speaker 3: red compared to twenty twenty. But you actually have to

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Speaker 3: start putting people who are competent in charge, and that

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Speaker 3: means you have to recognize that you created the problem.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they have the self realization yet.

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Speaker 3: Have things gotten bad enough for them to be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: we totally screwed this up. It's time for change.

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Speaker 2: Birch Gold Group makes the case for investing a portion

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Speaker 2: They point out the increase in the value of gold

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Speaker 2: as compared to the shrinking value of the US dollar.

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Speaker 2: And this is just public information. You can go and

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Speaker 2: take an Internet search yourself to see what gold has

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Speaker 2: done in recent years and what inflation has been in

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Speaker 2: recent years against the dollar.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you an example.

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Speaker 2: After Jim retired a couple of years ago, he heard

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Speaker 2: He said, Birch Gold was extremely helpful in explaining the process,

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Speaker 2: and Jim made his first purchase of gold in his accounts.

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Speaker 2: Four months later, he rolled over more money into his

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Speaker 2: eye ira. Jim says his only regret is he didn't

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Speaker 2: do this years ago. Now it's your turn to reach

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Speaker 2: you convert an iray or four to one k into

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Speaker 4: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 4: just on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back into Clay and back speaking Newt Gingrich. Uh, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm speaking new Gingrich fame. He is with us now.

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Speaker 2: He's got a new documentary, Journey to America with Newt

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Speaker 2: and Callista Gingrich, which features inspiring immigrant stories. Mister speaker,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being with us before we before we get

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Speaker 2: into the movie. I'm just wondering what's your sense of

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Speaker 2: where we stand historically now about to begin the second

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Speaker 2: Trump term and putting an end to Biden's four years.

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Speaker 1: What do you see immediately ahead for the country.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think this is an enormous shift. Trump is

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Speaker 6: a genuine populist. He wants to change the establishment, and

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Speaker 6: I think that he's going to end up being an

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Speaker 6: extraordinarily important president. And I think that we're going to

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Speaker 6: see that. A lot of things just didn't work, but

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Speaker 6: now I think with Trump's leadership, we're going to see

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Speaker 6: the country turn around very fast, and I would suspect

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Speaker 6: that we're going to have a non distant future. I'm

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Speaker 6: a very dynamic country with a lot of economic growth

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Speaker 6: and with a lot of reforms.

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Speaker 3: Speak your new gingers with us. Now we were just

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Speaker 3: talking on the show. Let's pretend that you had to argue,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure you've argued in the past sometimes things

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Speaker 3: you don't agree with, but you're a good debater. Sixty

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Speaker 3: one percent of Americans consider Biden's presidency of failure, according

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Speaker 3: to a CNN poll that just came out. Can you

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Speaker 3: point to anything in the last four years that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden has done that has made America better.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean, I'm pretty biased because I'm a conservative,

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Speaker 6: but it just you know, I mean, maybe withdrawing from

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Speaker 6: the race.

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Speaker 3: It's a great answer. The only thing you can think

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Speaker 3: of that made America better was him not running. You

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Speaker 3: have dealt with getting things through the House and the

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Speaker 3: Senate a ton.

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Speaker 1: When you look at twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five, how much time does Trump have to really implement

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Speaker 3: his policies, knowing that next year Democrats are going to

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Speaker 3: try to delay and the House and the Senate races

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Speaker 3: will be up again for mid terms. How imperative is

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Speaker 3: going fast now?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that it depends a large part on

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Speaker 6: how they approach it. If they do what Reagan did

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Speaker 6: and what Lincoln and Margaret Thatcher did, and they start

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Speaker 6: with the wishes of the American people. And I had

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Speaker 6: up a project called the America's New Majority Project, or

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Speaker 6: we look for the kind of issues where you can

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Speaker 6: get seventy and eighty sometimes even ninety percent support. If

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Speaker 6: they stick to that, they're gonna be able to get

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Speaker 6: things done all the way through because the American people

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Speaker 6: will be on their side, and the American people will

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Speaker 6: force it to happen now. If, on the other hand,

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Speaker 6: they forget that and they start getting driven by Washington issues,

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Speaker 6: then I think you're right, and he may have a

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Speaker 6: relatively short time horizon to get things done.

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Speaker 2: How do you view the timing of the hostage deal

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Speaker 2: and the cessation, the formal cessation of the war between

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Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas happening just days before Trump takes off

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Speaker 2: as mister speaker.

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Speaker 6: Well, I thought somebody had a very shrewd comment a

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Speaker 6: former ambassador two Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, Rother, who said,

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Speaker 6: with Trump coming in every day, the deal was going

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Speaker 6: to get worse for Hamas and therefore if they didn't

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Speaker 6: move now, they were just going to be in more

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Speaker 6: and more and more trouble because ultimately Trump would side

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Speaker 6: with Israel and wiping out Hamas. It's very different than

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Speaker 6: the situation they were in when you had Joe Biden

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Speaker 6: lecturing Israel over and over again about what they should

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Speaker 6: or should not be doing.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about the documentary that you've got and what

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Speaker 3: you've been working on, and what you would encourage our

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Speaker 3: audience to check out.

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Speaker 6: Well, krist and I started in twenty twenty three thinking that,

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Speaker 6: you know, we need to balance the immigration debate. We're

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Speaker 6: both very strongly opposed to illegal immigration, but we are

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Speaker 6: very strongly in favor of legal immigration, and so we

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Speaker 6: began to think that, you know, maybe we should adopt

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Speaker 6: a position of how can we get across to the

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Speaker 6: American people the amazing things that legal immigrants do. And

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Speaker 6: so we developed a program called Journey to America. We

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Speaker 6: went out and found nine really interesting people and found

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Speaker 6: that we were able to tell their stories. So the

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Speaker 6: Journey to America is essentially nine unique human beings who

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Speaker 6: came to this country and who made it a dramatically

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Speaker 6: better country. But they all came through the legal process

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Speaker 6: under the Constitution. They all wanted to work, and they

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Speaker 6: all wanted to become Americans. And that's very different than

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Speaker 6: somebody who starts their career by breaking the law.

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Speaker 2: Do you have confidence that there's going to be major changes,

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Speaker 2: mister Speaker in the immigration enforcement and just overall immigration

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Speaker 2: picture in the next Trump administration.

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Speaker 6: I think in the first thirty days you'll be shocked

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Speaker 6: at how effective they are. He's brought back one of

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Speaker 6: the great veterans of border control. I think they're absolutely

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Speaker 6: going to first seal off the border, second start deporting criminals.

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Speaker 6: And there are a lot of people who are here

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Speaker 6: who are criminals. And I think that whether it's a

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Speaker 6: Venezuelan gang or a Salvadoran gang or a Mexican cartel,

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Speaker 6: we have no reason to expose Americans to a murder

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Speaker 6: or rape or robbery from people who shouldn't even be here.

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Speaker 2: We've got the documentary that you've worked on up at

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Speaker 2: clayanbuck dot com.

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Speaker 1: Where else can people watch, mister speaker.

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Speaker 6: Hey, they can go to PBS dot org or PBS

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Speaker 6: app and they can see it. It's been streaming. It

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Speaker 6: was on last night on the PBS network and they

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Speaker 6: now are available to be streamed. If anybody wants to

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Speaker 6: can go to PBS dot org or the PBS app

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Speaker 6: and be able to do it.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, mister speaker.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the time your wife has been appointed an ambassador.

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Speaker 3: Do you anticipate what life will be like as the

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Speaker 3: ambassador's husband? How much are you looking forward to that?

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Speaker 6: Well, look, she was the ambassador of the Vatican in

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Speaker 6: the first Trump term. I went with her and did

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Speaker 6: most of my work from Rome. The State Department caused

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Speaker 6: me a trailing spouse, which is a good term because

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Speaker 6: it reminds you that's the ambassador who is the personal

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Speaker 6: representative president you're not. And I'm looking forward to being

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Speaker 6: with her. Switzerland is a great country. She has to

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Speaker 6: be approved by the Senator, of course, but Switzerland's a

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Speaker 6: great country and it's a wonderful assignment for her.

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Speaker 2: Mister Speaker appreciates you being with us. Good luck on

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Speaker 2: the documentary and we'll get more and more people go

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Speaker 2: check it out.

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Speaker 6: Great.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Look, we just heard from former Speaker new Gangrich.

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Speaker 2: His new documentary, Journey to America came out this week,

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Speaker 4: get your podcasts