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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dana Hanson. I come to you from
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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and he's back Steve Wish and it's time
Speaker 1: to go around the NFC. What's up, Steve oh Man?
Speaker 1: I fired up for this. NFC is my second, I
Speaker 1: mean first favorite conference. I'm an NFC kid. Haven't been
Speaker 1: born in Minneapolis, which is why I'm gonna be talking
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Speaker 1: you can in case you missed it. On Tuesday, the
Speaker 1: great Clay Bonn was with us. We went around the
Speaker 1: a f C in exactly forty eight minutes. And that's
Speaker 1: so important, Steve. I think this is the first time
Speaker 1: you've joined us for this particular exercise and the discipline
Speaker 1: required to pull this off. You are a disciplined man,
Speaker 1: and that's why we feel comfortable that you'll know not
Speaker 1: to blow through stop signs when it comes to analysis
Speaker 1: of each team. I'm not even gonna comment on that
Speaker 1: because I might be blowing through. We'll have sound effects.
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Speaker 1: ten seconds, so you'll be fair warmed. Um alright. So
Speaker 1: the set up easy. Each of us take one team
Speaker 1: per division in the NFC. Try to end your analysis
Speaker 1: quickly with a question, and then we talk about that team.
Speaker 1: Let's have some fun. Ricky, how are you doing? By
Speaker 1: the way she does trying to bring her into the show.
Speaker 1: And then I asked her and then there's like fifteen
Speaker 1: seconds away. Yeah, it's so funny because we're not in
Speaker 1: a studio and I have like a whole computer setup
Speaker 1: that I have to like get into a virtual studio.
Speaker 1: It's so seamless. Dan, you you know, millennial analysis, I
Speaker 1: will destroy you have a great shop. All right, let's
Speaker 1: let's kick it off right now around the NFC we go,
Speaker 1: starting with the NFC East. Hit hit the horn, ricky Um,
Speaker 1: I'm back at DJs on the Jersey Shore and Belmar there.
Speaker 1: Here we go the Washington football team. Greg Rosenthal. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're starting with the most exciting team in this division.
Speaker 1: I like it all. It's just like a solid football team.
Speaker 1: I there. It's just it's a solid head coach, it's
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, it's a lot of professionals. Look at this
Speaker 1: defensive line. Look at this secondary they quickly rebuilt with
Speaker 1: William Jackson and Kendall Fuller. Look at their offensive line.
Speaker 1: They might be bringing in Charles Leno to play left tackle.
Speaker 1: That was kind of their one hole. I think it's
Speaker 1: says I feel a little bit like Washington fans, which
Speaker 1: maybe they're looking at this team and they're like, how
Speaker 1: do we not go ten and seven or eleven and six?
Speaker 1: And you think back to the last two decades where
Speaker 1: they have one playoff win, they're one of the you know,
Speaker 1: least winning teams of the decade. Like, where do you
Speaker 1: think this team could have the rug pulled out from me?
Speaker 1: Because I've watched Washington so long, I kind of expect
Speaker 1: it to implode from within and this one it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like it's gonna happen though this time Steve, Steve
Speaker 1: is making a face. You just glossed over the whole
Speaker 1: quarterback thing. Man, We've covered that. That's an upgrade. It's
Speaker 1: an upgrade back then. I'm not gonna blow the times
Speaker 1: the time schedule here. Now we've got three minutes here.
Speaker 1: Don't you think Ryan Fitzpatrick is an upgrade from I mean,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, from what where they were last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: based off what they what they had last year. But
Speaker 1: I mean, once you go around this whole division, I mean,
Speaker 1: is he the best quarterback in the division? No, definitely
Speaker 1: not no. And I like, if you look at the
Speaker 1: whole NFL, they're really like you could look at Houston
Speaker 1: and Washington is really some of the only teams that
Speaker 1: haven't don't have either like a long term starter at
Speaker 1: veteran or like a young quarterback that they've latched onto
Speaker 1: as their future quarterback of tomorrow. And I mean I
Speaker 1: like Fitzpatrick as much as anyone else, but if things
Speaker 1: go awry, you're suddenly like looking at starts by like
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen or Taylor Heineke, and it's just like the
Speaker 1: that is what sets you apart if things don't gofically
Speaker 1: with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I mean, we all love we love
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, and we're all happy that it looks like
Speaker 1: he's going to get a chance to start, But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's probably a ceiling here
Speaker 1: that Fitzpatrick puts on your team. He's a fun quarterback,
Speaker 1: but this isn't like a championship caliber quarterback. But in
Speaker 1: the NFC East, I feel like, as long as he
Speaker 1: doesn't have one of those Fitzpatrick gears where he kills
Speaker 1: you with a ton of turnovers, this defense could be
Speaker 1: legitimately special. Um, we know what the front four is about,
Speaker 1: and their their first round draft pick. Uh, please someone
Speaker 1: jump in, yes that that's somebody that that addresses a
Speaker 1: huge need in the middle of their defense. That could
Speaker 1: that's where they're gonna win games. I just love the weapons.
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, like legit number one, Uh, your boy, you know,
Speaker 1: Logan Thomas at tight end, Antonio Gibson one of my
Speaker 1: favorite running backs to watch in the league. You add
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, you add the Dammy Brown uh in the
Speaker 1: third round, who a lot of people but like. And
Speaker 1: then you have Kelvin Harman who is productive towards n CL,
Speaker 1: Cam Sims who made a lot of players just like.
Speaker 1: I think the way you win with passing games now
Speaker 1: is to have five or six receivers. It's not about
Speaker 1: having two or three. Washington has that. It's got the defense.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of reason, uh to believe
Speaker 1: that this is the playoff team. And don't forget that
Speaker 1: Young Turner calling the plays. Yeah, you know you just
Speaker 1: you just really sent that. That's that segment out with
Speaker 1: three two. Hey, reminder we have three time outs also
Speaker 1: or any reason, Steve, it could be anything you want
Speaker 1: to stop the clock. It's collective, all right, let's move up,
Speaker 1: Young Turner. Bildelphia Eagles Mark Sessler. I feel like the
Speaker 1: Eagles are a little bit of an eye of the
Speaker 1: beholder team because it depends on how you want to
Speaker 1: look at it. To me, they may be they're on
Speaker 1: a full on rebuild, okay, but I also think that
Speaker 1: there's something certainly some weird juju inside the building. You've
Speaker 1: got Nick syrian The offering rather strange press conferences. You
Speaker 1: got Howie roseman Um getting caught on national TV getting
Speaker 1: like Heisman on an awkward fist bump with an an
Speaker 1: agitated coworker. So but then at the same time, you
Speaker 1: can look at this roster Jalen Hurts, Miles Sanders, DeVonta Smith,
Speaker 1: Jalen Rigor, Travis Fulgum, Dallas Goddard, Zaccherates if they keep him.
Speaker 1: I am just wondering, because you've got some stars on
Speaker 1: defense too. Is this team maybe being looked at a
Speaker 1: little bit under the radar in a shaky NFC East,
Speaker 1: Or are we like six months away from Syrianni Um,
Speaker 1: you know, getting agitated with a mouthy radio man saying
Speaker 1: this Ricky christ Angelo. I think they could be overlooked
Speaker 1: because I don't think any team is an incredible favorite
Speaker 1: in this division. So I did look not now that
Speaker 1: like the NFL's partnering with you know, Caesar's and stuff like.
Speaker 1: I think we can talk about this. The Giants and
Speaker 1: the Eagles are huge underdogs to win this division. Put
Speaker 1: you know, four to one, five to one to two that,
Speaker 1: and it's like I would take those two and give
Speaker 1: them a chance and take them both to win the
Speaker 1: division because I don't think there's that much separating the
Speaker 1: top team in this division from the bottom. The reason
Speaker 1: I give the Eagles a chance is the reason they
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. They're still looking pretty good on
Speaker 1: both lines. There's a lot on both their offensive and
Speaker 1: their defensive lines. And this division always comes I mean
Speaker 1: there's never there's rarely, you know, a thirteen and three
Speaker 1: or and upcoming, here's a fourteen and three type team
Speaker 1: that wins this division. It is usually been a ten
Speaker 1: and six team that's divided, you know, decided on upon
Speaker 1: the last two weeks of the season. But but when
Speaker 1: it comes to the Eagles, and I just can't wait.
Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurt gets in the huddle and says, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: rock paper scissors. Okay, what are we gonna do on
Speaker 1: their third and one? Right? You know that's isn't that
Speaker 1: the Syrianni decision making things, the rock paper scissors thing.
Speaker 1: So it's I it just seems internally in that building.
Speaker 1: We can look at the roster, we can look at
Speaker 1: the coaching change, but when you saw the chaos that
Speaker 1: up in the season, that that trickles down, that does
Speaker 1: trickle down as much as the coaching staff tries to
Speaker 1: insulate it. So if they can Jeoffrey Laurie some of
Speaker 1: the decisions he may, if they can isolate this team
Speaker 1: because there's so many new players on this roster from
Speaker 1: some of that chaos, then I'm with Greg. I think
Speaker 1: they do have a shot because there's real no decisive
Speaker 1: team and whoever is saying that the Giants are exchange
Speaker 1: underdogs to win this division, I really want to have
Speaker 1: with their drink an savan. The Eagles have struggled to
Speaker 1: identify wide receiver talents. About the Smith feels like a
Speaker 1: no brainer. And by the way, Lend Dickerson second pick center.
Speaker 1: You know, Brian Baldiger called him the best offensive lineman
Speaker 1: in this class. And it's not close. They helped itself
Speaker 1: and I said, oh line looking good. They help up
Speaker 1: next the Dallas Cowboys Steve Watch. Oh yeah, So since
Speaker 1: we're talking about experts in mediocrity with the divisi, shouldn
Speaker 1: end these teams. Let's go to Dallas. Look, Dak is back,
Speaker 1: he's got his paper and they were playing well before
Speaker 1: Dad got hurt, and then it was just a trick.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody started getting hurt. So the offensive line
Speaker 1: still a little bit of a question mark. They addressed
Speaker 1: some of it in the draft, right, we know DA's
Speaker 1: got the weapons at the skill position. But the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys last year where the Alice Cowboys because there's no
Speaker 1: d to right. I mean, think about they got they
Speaker 1: got no pass for us. Their linebackers didn't play well
Speaker 1: in their secondary. I mean that's that's what was a
Speaker 1: fantasy football quarterback stream to play against. So they go
Speaker 1: out and they target some of these players. They get
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. And let's not forget that Dan Quinn is
Speaker 1: now running his defense, so he's got Michael Parsons gonna
Speaker 1: be his Bobby Wagner doesn't necessarily have some of the
Speaker 1: pieces that he did in Seattle, so this might look
Speaker 1: a little bit more like Atlanta's defense until you get
Speaker 1: some of the personnel. But I do think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: with that back can score enough points and to be
Speaker 1: enough of a problem offensive, especially in this division, to
Speaker 1: kind of deal with the defense that's going to be better,
Speaker 1: not great, but good enough to keep it in every game.
Speaker 1: I think they were annoyed that one of the top
Speaker 1: corners didn't fall to them, um that they seemed like
Speaker 1: a rock solid um target for a cornerback. But I
Speaker 1: think dan Quinn has been put in a better position
Speaker 1: than last year's coordinator Mike Nolan, because they went all
Speaker 1: defense in this draft, and I think Parsons is you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned that, um, you know the reports
Speaker 1: that he is starting riots and lunch rooms or whatever
Speaker 1: that was. But maybe you need a guy that can
Speaker 1: start arriving on this defense. I mean they dan Quinn
Speaker 1: has a chance to be because I think sometimes you
Speaker 1: get these head coaches that you know that burns out,
Speaker 1: but you put them back in the coordinator spot and
Speaker 1: they are that much more valuable for the experience they've had.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is a chance to be like coordinator of
Speaker 1: the year. And I like dan Quinn a lot, so
Speaker 1: maybe I overthink it, but like this could be a
Speaker 1: much better defense. Yeah. And by the way, when White
Speaker 1: says Alice Cowboys. It doesn't mean like Alice the woman's name.
Speaker 1: He's not saying that it's Alice A L L A s.
Speaker 1: That's I just literally that very clear, uh to the audience,
Speaker 1: Like Alice. Cowboys still could take off as a brands.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like Eagles fans are already you know,
Speaker 1: um yeah, No. I think with the Cowboys it does
Speaker 1: come down to the defense, doesn't because they're gonna score
Speaker 1: a lot of points, especially, but will they like that
Speaker 1: here's the the will. But but the one thing we
Speaker 1: made a mistake with the Lions last year is we
Speaker 1: were like, oh, that's six games before Matthew Stafford got hurt.
Speaker 1: They were like, you know, third in the league, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be awesome. Now coming back with the same guys,
Speaker 1: I do think we should slow expectations a little that
Speaker 1: they were these insane numbers when their defense couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything for six games. But now you have Dak Pressitt
Speaker 1: coming off in a cl and just things change year
Speaker 1: to year, Like their defense needs to be a lot
Speaker 1: better because I don't know if they can expect their
Speaker 1: offense to be that game. You don't think they're offense
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what your point was that, like expecting
Speaker 1: the top three offense is expecting too much a guy
Speaker 1: coming off with torn a cd L. The New York Giants,
Speaker 1: Big Blue, they were smart, they made some smart moves.
Speaker 1: They have Gentleman, all right, they have Gentleman, and just
Speaker 1: when you think he's out, he does something that you
Speaker 1: feel like you might buy him more time. Uh. This
Speaker 1: time it was trade back in a wise manner according
Speaker 1: to all the people that uh seemed to know these
Speaker 1: things and set themselves up for a couple of years
Speaker 1: with draft picks um and then they go and of
Speaker 1: course they had Cadarius Tony in the first round. That's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver with a lot of upside. Kenny Golladay
Speaker 1: got the got the bag in free agency, se Kwon
Speaker 1: Barkley's back. That's all good, it's all good. And it's
Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones, this is it, he's about to take off.
Speaker 1: But this offensive line, UH, we've talked about on the
Speaker 1: show bad, very bad last year. And Dave Gentleman, when
Speaker 1: he was questioned about why they didn't really focus on
Speaker 1: it at all in the draft, he said, well, it
Speaker 1: wasn't there for us. We didn't like the players, which
Speaker 1: is all fine and good, but now you just got
Speaker 1: to hope all these guys you drafted last year, it
Speaker 1: didn't play a lick uh in are much better? Are
Speaker 1: the Giants still highly vulnerable on offense because they got
Speaker 1: a fumble prone quarterback that doesn't have anybody could block. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean they're trusting their evaluations because they you know,
Speaker 1: took Andrew Thomas over these other three tackles who ended
Speaker 1: up being awesome last year. He's the key to their team.
Speaker 1: And Matt Pert, who was their right tackle. They they're
Speaker 1: bringing back Nate Soldier to maybe be the swink tackle
Speaker 1: was their third round pick. That that's probably the key
Speaker 1: to their team. Because I like the defense, like I
Speaker 1: like the weapons. I think the weapons are enough for
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Like we we talked a lot about Patrick
Speaker 1: Graham last year doing a lot with the parts he had.
Speaker 1: He's got more parts on defense this year. So I know,
Speaker 1: I know you're your Angland for this team. Wise, you've
Speaker 1: got a little Giants fever. I really like. And the
Speaker 1: main reason why I like what they did and that
Speaker 1: you'll love this, Rosie being a Patriots fan, is that
Speaker 1: they didn't make a lot of the dumb mistakes right
Speaker 1: while they were kind of working through some of the
Speaker 1: things you had to work through, including a fumble prone quarterback.
Speaker 1: They weren't a team that may a lot of penalty.
Speaker 1: They weren't a team other than the fumbles, that turned
Speaker 1: the ball over a lot or did things to put
Speaker 1: their team in a bad situation. They just didn't have
Speaker 1: the ability to put points on the board last year.
Speaker 1: And that's that's gonna help. Say Kwan comes back and
Speaker 1: stays healthy and some of the other pieces that they got.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all on Daniel Jones. So now
Speaker 1: if he comes back and he plays fairly well, cuts
Speaker 1: down on the mistakes, this is enough of a fundamentally
Speaker 1: solid team, since solid has been the word to your
Speaker 1: that again can compete in this division, that are the
Speaker 1: master class of mediocrity. Yeah, I mean, and I would
Speaker 1: say also that you know you're dealing with the New
Speaker 1: York media, Daniel Jones is not you know, there aren't
Speaker 1: gonna be kid gloves at this point, because the whole
Speaker 1: narrative is Daniel Jones is being put up, put in
Speaker 1: a place to succeed as well as unless any quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league with the weapons they've added, and if
Speaker 1: it's if you're four weeks into the campaign and everyone
Speaker 1: looks solid, but Daniel Jones is you know, protective or
Speaker 1: not fumbling the ball left and right? Um that you know,
Speaker 1: the tabloid's gonna go utterly nuts. And so it will
Speaker 1: be entertaining one way. Steve over under Giants wins eight
Speaker 1: and a half, taking you over, my friend, there we go,
Speaker 1: might win the division. Alright, NFCS down, we moved to
Speaker 1: the NFC North, and let's start with the Detroit Lion.
Speaker 1: Where else would we start? It's the centerpiece of America, Detroit.
Speaker 1: What I think this is where this is like where
Speaker 1: America was born. Steel It's like, I don't know, there's
Speaker 1: it's hard to get the Lions. Jared Goff said they
Speaker 1: had the best offensive line in the league. Um this weekend,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, he might not be far
Speaker 1: off if Pine Sewell is that good. Taylor Decker a
Speaker 1: guy you trust at left tackle, a pro bowler. They
Speaker 1: just signed in ragg now at center, and you got
Speaker 1: Jonah Jackson, a recent high pick at one of the
Speaker 1: two guard spots. Like, I don't know what else the
Speaker 1: Lions got, but they got a good offensive line, and
Speaker 1: that's like a start that that is where the Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell era starts. Otherwise, like I have no idea what
Speaker 1: I'm going to see out of this team. Makes makes
Speaker 1: sense too because they don't know who their quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future it is. They know their future at wide
Speaker 1: receiver uh, and running back is probably not in the
Speaker 1: building right now. Carry on. Johnson just got the boot,
Speaker 1: by the way, but they have the foundation. Everything is
Speaker 1: built in the trenches, and they feel like they have
Speaker 1: an offensive line and then they can build off that that.
Speaker 1: There's logic again to what the Detroit lines are doing
Speaker 1: in terms of rebuild. Even if if you set it
Speaker 1: over under for wins for the lines, I would put
Speaker 1: it around four. Uh. It's not gonna be a great season,
Speaker 1: but maybe they're on the right track here. I don't
Speaker 1: like this though, Jared Goff, Yes, you have an offensive line,
Speaker 1: but your targets are Bristad Perriman, Tyrolle Williams, Calif Raymond
Speaker 1: Quintez ce Fast and rookie Alman Ross st Brown, who
Speaker 1: probably gonna get a ton of plane time. I just
Speaker 1: you know this is a team I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get open. Well, this is one exactly. This is one
Speaker 1: of those teams that passed on justin fields and it's
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be viewed um on how how he
Speaker 1: seeds in your own division. And so it's like I
Speaker 1: love making a nice offensive line, but uh, you may
Speaker 1: be passed over a totally psychotically awesome quarterbacks. So we'll see. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: this is how Dan Campbell builds it. I mean you
Speaker 1: look at what the Saints did that guard to guard
Speaker 1: all those years they built guard to guard. Now they
Speaker 1: had Pennay Sewell, and here's a little nugget. They liked
Speaker 1: him enough to to contemplate moving up to four with
Speaker 1: Atlanta to get him because they thought that Cincinnati might
Speaker 1: take him at five. So Panay Sewell when they were
Speaker 1: they were able to fall to him. That's why you
Speaker 1: saw those guys doing all the hugging that they did
Speaker 1: when they got Penay school. So it is all you know,
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell now he's got the kneecap fighters right, So
Speaker 1: that's how they want to establish it. And then who
Speaker 1: knows next offseason, if DeShawn Watson becomes available, if some
Speaker 1: of those guys become available, that can be a quick fix.
Speaker 1: If you've got some of the pieces. So again, this
Speaker 1: is a rebuild. No one's expecting them to win the division,
Speaker 1: even if Jordan's loves a starting quarterback for the Packers.
Speaker 1: But they've clearly shown their hand as to how they
Speaker 1: want to build this team. Tough guys, inside out and guys.
Speaker 1: It's a formula that's worked for a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: But you got to have a quarterback to be able
Speaker 1: to do it. It didn't feel like a new day
Speaker 1: thought like the Brad Homes feels organized like six or
Speaker 1: seven other defensive starters. I don't know who it's gonna be,
Speaker 1: and we don't know who Aaron Glenn is going to
Speaker 1: be as their coordinator. It's like wide open. Their staff
Speaker 1: is good. Their staff is very very good. Up next
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, Mark seton. Remember I got on that
Speaker 1: Lion's bandwagon last year and the thing fell off the highway.
Speaker 1: But one year, two early. Anyways, the Bears, how about
Speaker 1: this the days of killing Ryan Pace, which I have,
Speaker 1: you know, done essentially every episode going back for two
Speaker 1: or three years. I think they're over because I give
Speaker 1: the Bears, um, I feel so differently about them now.
Speaker 1: They tried for Russell Wilson that didn't work out. They
Speaker 1: then you know, listen, they are the team that went
Speaker 1: and make a move for Justin Fields. And that started
Speaker 1: with Matt and Agy having a conversation with Ryan Day,
Speaker 1: Ohio state coach a year ago where Day said this
Speaker 1: is a generation old talent and that's where the Nuggets
Speaker 1: started in Ryan Pace right right right, Mattnegy said, I'm in,
Speaker 1: I'm in on this. So I just wonder, though, here's
Speaker 1: my question. A week or you know, these guys, their
Speaker 1: butts were on fire a week ago, and it's like
Speaker 1: they were playing for their jobs and you thought maybe
Speaker 1: the whole thing gets swept out. At this point, their
Speaker 1: butts are much cooler. They have bought new life with
Speaker 1: this quarterback pick. Do you think though, that Matt nig
Speaker 1: after all we've seen and Ryan Pace are the right
Speaker 1: guys to continue what they're doing or or is this
Speaker 1: just preventing the inevitable year into Justin Field's career. You
Speaker 1: know he's out, all right, Let me let me say this,
Speaker 1: all right, Let's see this new quarterback on the field,
Speaker 1: and I'll have a better idea of this entire regime
Speaker 1: because we knew the Trabsky move was disastrous for the franchise,
Speaker 1: and they're very lucky, extremely fortunate Pace and Naggy to
Speaker 1: get another bite at the apple here. Um, I would
Speaker 1: think if things go sideways this year and fields development
Speaker 1: isn't where uh people expect it to be, they're out.
Speaker 1: They might not even make it to week seventeen or
Speaker 1: week eighteen. But yeah, it Fields is as good as
Speaker 1: people think he could be. Not only was it a
Speaker 1: brilliant move to bringe some life back into the organization,
Speaker 1: and bringing this guy that could be potentially franchise altering
Speaker 1: it does for job security was a huge move by
Speaker 1: both those guys. It was a no brainer all the
Speaker 1: way around. M Yeah, look, they're they're their butts are
Speaker 1: still very hot. I mean people people may like they're
Speaker 1: smile and faces right now, but if it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: they're out and Justin Field is gonna be playing for
Speaker 1: a different coordinator head coach next year. And I like
Speaker 1: what they I'm completely with. Damn. My first thought is
Speaker 1: they may have bought themselves some time. If Fields comes out,
Speaker 1: if they're competitive, he does some things with some of
Speaker 1: the weapons that he has. I mean, their offensive line
Speaker 1: is still so so they could not run the ball
Speaker 1: at all for the past two years. I mean that
Speaker 1: that part of things has to figure it out. But
Speaker 1: if they could at least show some signs and may say, okay,
Speaker 1: we can build are round justin fields. But if it's
Speaker 1: if it's fits and starts and fits and starts, are
Speaker 1: they open the season with Andy Dalton? I mean, this
Speaker 1: isn't the Bears though, that's the problem. It's not Mr
Speaker 1: Drobiskie's Bears. Like, yes, you're changing people's lives. Our producer
Speaker 1: on the TV side, Matt Taitton, he had jumped shipped
Speaker 1: from the Bears. He's back in now, Like you're bringing
Speaker 1: people back in, but their offensive line, they're starting a
Speaker 1: rookie at one side, Germaine Effetti on the other, it's
Speaker 1: not the same Khalio Mack. It's not the same Achem Hicks. Like,
Speaker 1: unless those guys are as good as they used to be,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. You know, you just guarantee that
Speaker 1: this part of the podcast will be on our network
Speaker 1: program mat Ting up next the Minnesota Vikings. Man, Well,
Speaker 1: you know Mike Zimmer and Rick Bielmant guys, they've they've
Speaker 1: gone and done it. They've drafted a quarterback and Kellen Mond,
Speaker 1: even though he's a third round pick, it is gonna
Speaker 1: take those three consecutive you know where they're coming below
Speaker 1: two hundred yard passing games by Kirk, Where they where
Speaker 1: they go one and two before the fan base is Playmont, Playmond,
Speaker 1: they're not. You know, look who knows if min is
Speaker 1: gonna get ready. He's got a completely different skill set
Speaker 1: than Kirk Cousins. But they have introduced themselves into the
Speaker 1: quarterback controversy world, and it is about time because Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna show up every day. You know,
Speaker 1: some weeks he's gonna bring you a junk mail and
Speaker 1: some days he's gonna bring you a nice STIMMI check. Okay,
Speaker 1: but it's this is a team that is so reliant
Speaker 1: on Dalvin Cook as well. Now I like some of
Speaker 1: the things they did to enhance their offensive line. Okay,
Speaker 1: they've they've done some things to get better on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, which they had to do. Their defense is
Speaker 1: gonna be better. Remember last year they were just destimated
Speaker 1: by injuries. You get Anthony Barr and Daniel Hunter back.
Speaker 1: I think Patrick Peterson still got some game left there
Speaker 1: once mocking that free signing. I think he's got some
Speaker 1: game left to come out help. So I think the
Speaker 1: Vikings are going to contend for the division. M Okay,
Speaker 1: even with those three consecutive minus two yard passing games
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins, because they've got Dalvin Cook, and even
Speaker 1: though there's gonna be whispers of play Kellen Mond, especially
Speaker 1: if he has a good preseason, the Vikings are gonna
Speaker 1: hold firm on Kirk and they are going to challenge
Speaker 1: for the division. I'm with you. I like that. I
Speaker 1: think that Daris saw Wyatt Davis is of the two linemen.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, this is why I would be
Speaker 1: stupid to put in the rookie uh If Cousins. And
Speaker 1: when when Cousins goes into one of those three week funks,
Speaker 1: he always comes out of it and then for the
Speaker 1: next five weeks he's in like the top three in
Speaker 1: the league and passer rating, and he's got an absurd
Speaker 1: touchdown to interception ratio. That's just the Kirk Cousins experience.
Speaker 1: So bailing on him when he goes into a slump
Speaker 1: is just costing yourself down the line. I would worry
Speaker 1: about this though, in terms of you know, Monds becoming
Speaker 1: like Mr Excitement. You still have to pay Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: thirty five million guaranteed next season, so you know, he's
Speaker 1: untradeable um lets, you know, unless the team is completely
Speaker 1: out of their minds and so you're you're the controversy
Speaker 1: will wage on. It's not easy to get rid of
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins for for next season. So nuts. But he's
Speaker 1: not like an albatross like some other quarterbacks either. He's
Speaker 1: I mean, he's streaky. It's weird because you think of
Speaker 1: him as this like steady, boring guy. No, he is
Speaker 1: either on fire, like in a good way, or he's
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, lighting your playbook on fire.
Speaker 1: They need those rookies though, on the offensive line to
Speaker 1: like play well, everyone always like slots in. Okay, well
Speaker 1: we we signed two good rookies, you know, and you
Speaker 1: know we drafted one in the first round. That solves that.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, half the time, it's gonna be a disaster.
Speaker 1: It's like a bigger problem. It's like starting it's on
Speaker 1: your radar, right like it just say so, you're right,
Speaker 1: there's always the aception. Oh we fixed their offensive one. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, the Green Bay Packers. You alright, So Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers obviously in the conversation top ten quarterback all time,
Speaker 1: coming off a year in which you want m v
Speaker 1: P for the third time, he's furious. He's filled with
Speaker 1: venom and vengeance. That's venom. Jin's so perhaps, knowing the
Speaker 1: man and how spiteful he is, and nobody knows him
Speaker 1: more than the Packers internally, perhaps this is the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the Claire vengeance. Perhaps this is the time to
Speaker 1: trade a thirty seven year old quarterback before he goes
Speaker 1: and retires on you. Um, And I know it's it
Speaker 1: takes you completely out of contention in one and all
Speaker 1: that and maybe for next couple of years. But maybe
Speaker 1: if you truly know the situation, this is the right move.
Speaker 1: Anybody agree with me? What is the right move trading? Um?
Speaker 1: If he if he's telling you, and he's telling all
Speaker 1: free agents don't come back, I'm leaving, and he's telling
Speaker 1: you face to face, I'm never playing for you for
Speaker 1: you again, maybe you should listen to reset your franchise.
Speaker 1: I guess my point would be, unless you're getting established
Speaker 1: players back right now, let him rot for a year
Speaker 1: because you're only getting drafts. The draft picks are I'm
Speaker 1: not buying that he's gonna be out. We're already seeing
Speaker 1: a little bit of um hedging that this is a
Speaker 1: solution that could be fixed by former teammates on our network,
Speaker 1: James Jones, you know John Quin talking on the radio.
Speaker 1: So if they think it can be fixed, I think
Speaker 1: it can be fixed. And if you're only getting draft picks,
Speaker 1: those draft picks are the exact same getting him next
Speaker 1: April or next February as they are right now, So
Speaker 1: you might as well just wait and see. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Greg, I mean to your point though, if
Speaker 1: you're going to trade and go ahead and trade him
Speaker 1: before the season, because you drafted Jordan's Love in the
Speaker 1: first round, He's going to play at some point. So
Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade him, move him. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Packers are going to trade him. I think it's
Speaker 1: you played for us, or you play for No One.
Speaker 1: Go host Jeopardy or soul Train, whatever it may be
Speaker 1: that tickles your fancy, but you are not going to
Speaker 1: play for anyone else. If it's not us. You still
Speaker 1: get Jordan's Love reps for the year. You still have
Speaker 1: the tough, tough shoes. This is like he's got to
Speaker 1: play anywhere. I get it, But it's kind of a
Speaker 1: no win, like you're taking over for the m v
Speaker 1: P the But you can spin it saying he's the
Speaker 1: one who sat out Packers Nation. We didn't trade him,
Speaker 1: we didn't dump him. He's the one who wanted to
Speaker 1: go sit in the sandbox. So that's the way they
Speaker 1: have to spend it, because there's no way they're gonna
Speaker 1: win this battle, especially after the same circus that happened
Speaker 1: with Brett Farve seems to be to some degree playing
Speaker 1: out again. I would be concerned about the Jordan Love
Speaker 1: angle though, I mean all whispers and reports out of
Speaker 1: Green Bay wasn't even the backup last year that he
Speaker 1: just didn't develop and they knew, you know, coming out
Speaker 1: of Utah State that he was going to have to
Speaker 1: take time. Um, but still there's no evidence. There's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's blowing up in practice and he's like Colin Kaepernick versu.
Speaker 1: Alex Smith type situation. It's like, who is this guy?
Speaker 1: Is he the starter? Can you do it? Isn't mattle
Speaker 1: withth floor supposed to be a quarterback whisper so much
Speaker 1: of this stuff. You're these guys are getting high outer
Speaker 1: whisper into. Go on, Steve, let's just continue the Roger's conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm pulling a t o. Go ahead. No, these guys
Speaker 1: are getting hired because they're they're the offensive gurus, right,
Speaker 1: and they can't develop a quarterback who you took in
Speaker 1: the first round. Sounds to me like this quarterback whisperer's
Speaker 1: kind of like a quarterback mumbler. I'm tired. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of sitting You're saying that guys fired today. No, I
Speaker 1: mean this is this has been a this has been
Speaker 1: you know, in my crow for a while. When all
Speaker 1: these quarters, all these quoaches are getting paid big money,
Speaker 1: they're they're leap frogging other candidates, deserving candidates, because they're
Speaker 1: great play callers and plates, great play schemers, and they
Speaker 1: can't develop a guy you draft in the first round.
Speaker 1: Always on the quarterback, totally right. But I think part
Speaker 1: of the issue is that I don't think Matt Laflor
Speaker 1: wanted to move up to draft Jordan Love and he
Speaker 1: feels a little powerless in this situation. You know what,
Speaker 1: everybody's got to grow up a little bit. Everybody's gotta
Speaker 1: put on their big boy pants. You know. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has got to live with the situation or retire or whatever.
Speaker 1: Just grow up. If you're still upset that Jordan loves
Speaker 1: in the building and you're a head coach Matt with floor,
Speaker 1: deal with it. That's just the reality, and don't be
Speaker 1: afraid of it and embrace trying to grow him into
Speaker 1: a star. That going back to my original point, Greg
Speaker 1: was that if this is really the way this thing
Speaker 1: is turning out, and you and this is not about money,
Speaker 1: and and maybe maybe not Mrs Miller, my social studies
Speaker 1: teacher in eighth grade, said money makes the world go around.
Speaker 1: It's what everything's about. And if this is actually, deep
Speaker 1: down just about Aaron Rodgers getting a raise, pay the man.
Speaker 1: But if you've sensed that this is actually something else,
Speaker 1: something about his personality and a sense of betrayal and
Speaker 1: all this ugliness, it's starting to make the Brett Farve
Speaker 1: situation look pleasant in comparison. Cut your losses and set
Speaker 1: your franchise up for ten years. Yeah, my point, my
Speaker 1: thing would be that just do that next year, because
Speaker 1: what you don't want is Aaron Rodgers blazing through the
Speaker 1: a f C playoffs, especially when you're not getting anything back.
Speaker 1: I presume that is gonna help you this year. Now
Speaker 1: if you're telling me, by the way, yeah, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if it's not just draft picks, if someone is willing
Speaker 1: to trade you, you know, Bradley Chubb and Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: from Denver or Vegas is willing to trade you, like all,
Speaker 1: they're good players. I just don't see that happening. I
Speaker 1: see this as as a retirement for a year and
Speaker 1: he comes back, or and then then there's a trade,
Speaker 1: or he's just gonna come back, which feels a lot
Speaker 1: more likely. I mean, it's not easy time to be
Speaker 1: Brian Goodencost because it's like you're the person who's attached
Speaker 1: to all this chaos and yeah, you know what, trade
Speaker 1: him at some point, whether it's this year or next.
Speaker 1: Then you've got this quarterback sitting there Jordan loved would
Speaker 1: better be really good or the place is going to
Speaker 1: be set on fire. It's you know, some storms of
Speaker 1: hit the shores of Germany's favorite general manager, and Bob
Speaker 1: McGinn of The Athletic reported that Rogers has mocked Douda
Speaker 1: Kunst in group text messages with teammates referring to Gouda
Speaker 1: Kunst as Jerry Krauss. And by the way, it's Jerry
Speaker 1: krous Um. First of all, one of the most successful
Speaker 1: gems of all time. He was one of the most
Speaker 1: successful gems of all time because of Michael Jordan's and yes,
Speaker 1: everybody knows the ESPN doc uh and learned about the
Speaker 1: Jerry Krause power struggle within the Chicago Bulls in the nineties.
Speaker 1: But the great lad Chris Wesling once recommended a book
Speaker 1: to me that I just finishing right now, Playing for Keeps,
Speaker 1: David Halbert stand On. That really gives you an idea
Speaker 1: of what was going on in Chicago. And Jerry Krouse
Speaker 1: and rest rest in Peace was a man that had
Speaker 1: a lot of demons and a lot of insecurities. So
Speaker 1: if you know the true story of Jerry Krass, it's
Speaker 1: one of the worst things you could call somebody, because
Speaker 1: you know Krause's he deserved it. If goodakuts can get
Speaker 1: six rings in the Hall of Fame. But here's the
Speaker 1: thing also about Krouse, like Kraus was very maybe this
Speaker 1: is the way it is behind the scenes in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: but Kraus was. It was a big thing that he
Speaker 1: was always trying to take credit. The sense of Brian
Speaker 1: Goodacuts is doing that also. I don't know, maybe it is,
Speaker 1: but what I haven't want anything I do. I do
Speaker 1: sense that Mark Murphy uh is a really important figure here.
Speaker 1: He's he's the essentially the CEO and president. And he
Speaker 1: was right there saying goodbye to Brett farve H fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago too, so he's he's been through this before.
Speaker 1: And they drafted Jordan's Love with the intent to say
Speaker 1: bye bye Aaron Rodgers. It just you know, you didn't
Speaker 1: see that m v P coming. All right, let's head
Speaker 1: to the NFC South Greg the New Orleans States. This
Speaker 1: team is not as deep as it used to be.
Speaker 1: I think their first round pick was surprising because they
Speaker 1: had so many holes on the roster. Instead, you're putting
Speaker 1: like Cam Jordans on. Notice that that's how I took
Speaker 1: that Peyton Turner pick, because they didn't take any cornerbacks
Speaker 1: or wide receivers. High really thin at those positions. Their
Speaker 1: linebacker used to be kind of deep. Now it's to
Speaker 1: Mario Davis and nothing else. I think very quietly the
Speaker 1: depth of this team. You look at their two and
Speaker 1: three receivers, are you know Trae Kwan, Sith Smith and
Speaker 1: Marcus Callaway has been eroded. So it's not just about
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It was about what happened when they couldn't
Speaker 1: spend any money in free agency. I found this draft
Speaker 1: strange and I just don't see them as such a
Speaker 1: built stacked team for Jamis Winston to take over, because
Speaker 1: I mean there are scouts calling Patent Turner lowering expectations
Speaker 1: for his head. Though this is not as good a
Speaker 1: roster as it was, it's got some goals, no, I
Speaker 1: just I mean I think that you know, they're probably
Speaker 1: annoyed that people were annoyed by their draft. But someone
Speaker 1: called Peyton Turner, a scout called them a severe reach.
Speaker 1: A lot of people like their second round pick more
Speaker 1: than the first round pick in terms of where who
Speaker 1: they got. Just like I I think that they hit
Speaker 1: the wall that you're I think you're right, Greg. I
Speaker 1: mean we saw the Paths get in trouble with that too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can there's only so much you can do,
Speaker 1: and they you know, you're losing guys like Trey Hendrickson. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Breezes out the building. And to me, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is is an idea, um, but it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this version of Jamis Winston minus the
Speaker 1: mistakes because Sean Payton is the coach tb D. That's
Speaker 1: just no guarantee of that, absolutely TVD. And and I'm
Speaker 1: went to Greg and Cam Jordan's not un noticed. Marcus
Speaker 1: Davenports on notice. I mean they gave him a guaranteed
Speaker 1: contract for next year, they picked up his option, They
Speaker 1: picked up his option, that's all he did. So I
Speaker 1: mean he's being put on notice. Plus you lose Trey
Speaker 1: Hendrickson in that defense, you've got to have someone who
Speaker 1: can rush rush the pastor it's usually you know, rotational,
Speaker 1: especially in this division when you got some of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I mean, look out for Sam Donald, but it's the
Speaker 1: roster that they're putting a lot on Jamis. I mean
Speaker 1: they really are. We'll see. I think this is one
Speaker 1: of those things. They'll never say it out loud, but
Speaker 1: organizations do this. If we have to take a year
Speaker 1: to reset things, this is the year to do it.
Speaker 1: And I think the Saints are saying this is our
Speaker 1: reset year to get the cap right to try to
Speaker 1: stay competitive, but to try to figure out who we
Speaker 1: are for the future. And if we win now, fine
Speaker 1: and dandy. That makes a lot of sense. I like
Speaker 1: where you're coming from on that. And I also wonder
Speaker 1: because I've kept waiting all throughout this offseason for Sean
Speaker 1: Payton to pull a rabbit out of the hat and
Speaker 1: really bring in like a big time successor to Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: And see this is kind of a smoke screen, the
Speaker 1: Winston Taysom Hill thing. It hasn't happened. And perhaps it's not.
Speaker 1: Or like what Steve saying, We're gonna see what we
Speaker 1: got here with these two guys. Maybe it all connects
Speaker 1: and and we we have something big that comes out
Speaker 1: of it. Or maybe next year Deshaun Watson's on the Saints,
Speaker 1: you know, like Us Wilson or Russell Wilson or somebody else.
Speaker 1: Maybe there is a big move coming, just not this year.
Speaker 1: That makes sense because and I think when I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the rafter falling, you know, down a lot, it's like,
Speaker 1: who is starting a cornerback on this scene. I can't
Speaker 1: figure you are, Yeah, like they they are, there are
Speaker 1: spots here. Who's starting at tight end Adam Troutman like
Speaker 1: Christian shar is gonna coach up that secondary. My friend,
Speaker 1: he's back the defending Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Mark Sister, I would just look at like, how incredible
Speaker 1: this team was down the at the points they put
Speaker 1: up over their final eight games twenty six points thirty one,
Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty thirty one thirty one Byron Leftwich is like,
Speaker 1: can we have a little more credit for this guy?
Speaker 1: I feel like he's completely not mentioned enough for what
Speaker 1: he's done. I have a two part question, though, do
Speaker 1: you think just because everyone's come back the way that
Speaker 1: offenses work in the NFL, um assuming that Brady stays Brady,
Speaker 1: that they just pick up where they left off on
Speaker 1: offense and do their old you know, dropping forty on
Speaker 1: the reg um from week one through week eighteen next year?
Speaker 1: Or is or? Is? Or? Is that just simply not
Speaker 1: that easy? And secondly, is there a like who actually
Speaker 1: in the NFC if Rogers were ever to not be
Speaker 1: on the Packers to challenge this team? What team stands
Speaker 1: out is anyone that's gonna get in their way? I
Speaker 1: as a journalism school graduate, Mark, you usually you do
Speaker 1: the double question thing a lot, which they say, don't
Speaker 1: do that because they're usually just gonna pick one of
Speaker 1: your questions. Well, I didn't go to journalism school, so
Speaker 1: you know, miss that less and also clussy. You're asking
Speaker 1: three people, so do you want us each to answer
Speaker 1: both parts of the question, answer it as you wish,
Speaker 1: or to orients or none of it. I think the
Speaker 1: offense does pick up where it left off. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they can keep it going the whole season,
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of times the Patriots would
Speaker 1: come out of those defending championship in September, they would
Speaker 1: just like they would roll. And I don't see any
Speaker 1: reason not to uh for this team, keeping that motivation,
Speaker 1: keeping that level of play through eight team, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a different season. I'm not counting on their defense
Speaker 1: being as good as it was because this was a
Speaker 1: defensive team as good as the offense was. At the
Speaker 1: very end, this was a defensive team. And remember those
Speaker 1: points we scored because the defense has given them short fields.
Speaker 1: I mean they were getting takeaways, taking away possessions and
Speaker 1: then really put in a position where left in areas
Speaker 1: should call a great place. You know, I don't like
Speaker 1: the fact of not changing. I think every team in
Speaker 1: the NFL is different than the NBA. Right the Spurs
Speaker 1: can up they're starting five and real off four or five,
Speaker 1: you know, straight championships just because of nature of the
Speaker 1: game and great coaching and things like that. But in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I think you have got to change parts
Speaker 1: every now and then, because if you hit a slump,
Speaker 1: guys can get sour, or if you start rolling, guys
Speaker 1: can be like, okay, we got this, or we can
Speaker 1: turn it on and you may meet that bus all
Speaker 1: one week who you just can't beat, because, as we know,
Speaker 1: in the NFL, game of matchups and so I don't
Speaker 1: I like the fact of bringing everyone back during an
Speaker 1: imposing team, there's a lot of mouth to feed. Though
Speaker 1: on offense, if ever, there was a lot of more
Speaker 1: type of team this is. It presents though like quell,
Speaker 1: like what could be turmoil and with a different type
Speaker 1: of quarterback. I think you're a student of the game,
Speaker 1: Steve student. Do you remember a defending champion ever going
Speaker 1: this all in and bringing back the same team But
Speaker 1: you never, But you mean most offending champions and have
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who took less to make sure it happens, you right, right,
Speaker 1: do what happens the Atlanta Falcons' Steve and you know
Speaker 1: the expectations here are completely unknown. Um. You know, look,
Speaker 1: they clearly committed to Matt Ryan by not going for
Speaker 1: a quarterback, even to the point where they signed Asian
Speaker 1: McCarron's his backup going into the draft. So this is
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's team for this year. He has got weapons
Speaker 1: they drafted to interior offensive lineman who could who are
Speaker 1: plugging play type of guys? Now can they coach them
Speaker 1: up to protect Matt Ryan who has been sacked like
Speaker 1: crazy over the past three years and his tenure with
Speaker 1: with their cutters is oct who's no longer. They're higher interceptions,
Speaker 1: higher sack rate. Just by whatever is going on right there,
Speaker 1: getting Kyle Pitts's tight end, that's gonna help. The big
Speaker 1: question is the Julio Jones factor, because we just talked
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers possibly getting moved. This is real, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is very real that Julio Jones could get moved
Speaker 1: before training camp because there is busted right and they
Speaker 1: figure he's the one high salary guy that teams are
Speaker 1: calling about. They can't take back salary so they can
Speaker 1: get future picks seconds. You know, people thinking gotta get
Speaker 1: too for he's thirty two and he's been nicked up.
Speaker 1: His trade value will never be higher than it will
Speaker 1: be before going into training camp. So they are gonna listen.
Speaker 1: So if you don't have Julio Jones, Matt Ryan's a
Speaker 1: different quarterback even with Kyle Pitts when he doesn't have
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and his defense. Yeah, they drafted some players,
Speaker 1: but they still have a ways to go, especially changing
Speaker 1: defensive fronts. Um who knows the Atlanta Falcons guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a total toss up the type of team
Speaker 1: I think maybe they can they can win six games,
Speaker 1: they can win you know, ten or eleven. You just
Speaker 1: don't know. These guys are super tired of me bringing
Speaker 1: this up. But I mean they have like twenty four
Speaker 1: less players than other teams in the NFL, and there's
Speaker 1: six undrafted free agents. So that that But that's the
Speaker 1: Jones point. It's not like we want to move Julio
Speaker 1: Jones because of his age or his or abilities. Like
Speaker 1: we've got to find a way to create cap space.
Speaker 1: And I just wonder though I know they'll be a taker,
Speaker 1: but is Julio Jones right now? Someone that another team?
Speaker 1: I mean, the wide receivers have been drafted like teams
Speaker 1: have fulfilled those needs. Who's going to come after Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and give a ton away? I think that's tricky.
Speaker 1: Like the Raiders. The Raiders, they'll put them at the
Speaker 1: top of the list. Raiders first round pick next year
Speaker 1: for Julio. I don't know up a first rounder. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you don't get a first then what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? Life is two shorts. Just to see Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and Kyle Picks together? I get it. But for
Speaker 1: a second round pick, you can always move money around
Speaker 1: like ten teams that can fashion themselves contenders that would
Speaker 1: see Julio Jones is a guy that could put them
Speaker 1: over the top. Most the new got a second. You're
Speaker 1: gonna send out Julio Jones for a second? That's disrespect.
Speaker 1: Who do you get that second? From? There? Greg? At
Speaker 1: some chumps in the in box ground it was a
Speaker 1: bad idea. Just put them together. Who cares? D and
Speaker 1: p S will save this defense there? Getting rid of
Speaker 1: quick might be an upgrade. I mean, let's a little
Speaker 1: bit right now, what's going up the same. Let's see
Speaker 1: them together. Oh I want to call time out. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use the second time. Remember we never go into
Speaker 1: the tunnel without using our time out, and I'm not
Speaker 1: using the third. You can throw that out there, Steve,
Speaker 1: you got a gig with the Falcons. Congratulations on that,
Speaker 1: your bank contributor on their website, all sorts of content
Speaker 1: and without getting too personal, how much are they paying you?
Speaker 1: You just got two personal I'm not gonna I'll put
Speaker 1: it this way where I'm not gonna bust their salary gap. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean the cool part is I'm gonna help. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do the mina times to be in the in
Speaker 1: the preseason booth. I mean that's how this all star.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's awesome. Yeah, that's how it all started.
Speaker 1: Something I really wanted to do. And so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in the booth with Core Wire and DJ Show
Speaker 1: with two guys that covered when they were with the Falcons,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give that a whirl,
Speaker 1: and and everything else just kind of expanded off of that.
Speaker 1: So all right, we'll start watching your A J. McCain
Speaker 1: tape because you're gonna be seeing a lot. I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: If you're worried. Yeah, the reason why the Falcons are
Speaker 1: in such salary cap hell is that Weiss contract they
Speaker 1: took out. Are they going to send you to the
Speaker 1: preseason games? Is that the plan? Like where with the
Speaker 1: COVID preseason landscape? Here, Hey, guys, I'll give you a
Speaker 1: tip and you guys will appreciate this. Since we're in
Speaker 1: time out, I'm getting paid more than all of us
Speaker 1: are getting paid for our podcast. Time out doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna air, Steve. It still will be
Speaker 1: on the podcast. But I okay, it's all good, Steve.
Speaker 1: I have a mortgage now, but we'll talk off Mike. Wait, Steve,
Speaker 1: does this mean that you would um potentially relocate to
Speaker 1: Atlanta down the road if this if this assignment became
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, because you are you know you got
Speaker 1: Atlanta roots that part of the Nope, Nope, love lay Man.
Speaker 1: I'm good here. I have friends and I'm only loving Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But I am here and only three preseason games, right,
Speaker 1: we're not waiting to bring out the three preseason game season.
Speaker 1: That's now, let's do it. So many good thing is
Speaker 1: and the good thing is it's not a team that
Speaker 1: I really cover, so like when we get to the
Speaker 1: regular season and stuff, it's not like I'm I'm like
Speaker 1: on the home team. If I were to cover Falcons game,
Speaker 1: because the NFL network requires the Falcons to like be
Speaker 1: in contention for twelve before they start covering them. It's
Speaker 1: like they're just don't Lenc south Man. You know, so
Speaker 1: many of us are Los Angeles transplants, but few have
Speaker 1: done it better than Steve. Steve is a guy that
Speaker 1: fits right, all right, let us move on time in
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Okay, Sam Donald, let's see where he's at now. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt Rule. So he's paired with the competent, respected offense
Speaker 1: of mine. That's an upgrade over you know who. He's
Speaker 1: playing now with one of the great running backs for
Speaker 1: the last decade and CMC hopefully McCaffrey's healthy. He's got
Speaker 1: an old friend and Robbie Anderson, who they made some
Speaker 1: real nice music together in New York. D J. Moore
Speaker 1: like a sneaky kind of rising start wide receiver, second
Speaker 1: round pick L s U wid White out charts. Marshall Jr.
Speaker 1: Is the Donald Hive. Fractured, isn't it Maybe now that
Speaker 1: he's been traded, but I still look route for the
Speaker 1: guy about to be proven right on Sam or will
Speaker 1: we remember this as another poor investment at QB by
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. My guess it will be somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle where each hive member like stakes their ground
Speaker 1: and doesn't move off of it. That he gives you
Speaker 1: enough that of course it's going to be better. So
Speaker 1: like you with Teddy Bridgewater basically exactly like let's say
Speaker 1: they have the nineteenth ranked passing game d v O A,
Speaker 1: like the Panthers did a year ago. Let's say it's
Speaker 1: about the same as with Teddy. People will defend Donald
Speaker 1: because it'll be a lot better than we've ever seen him.
Speaker 1: And I do worry about the protection there. They didn't
Speaker 1: go get a left tackle. Really, the the entire offensive
Speaker 1: line looks like a question and they're they're not super deep.
Speaker 1: If at wide receiver, if Marshall Uh, the rookie doesn't
Speaker 1: pan out. So I mean, it sounds a lot of
Speaker 1: challenge of New York Giants situation with Daniel Jones. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we don't get the version of Sam Donald that
Speaker 1: everyone's been crowing about for three years here. Uh, then
Speaker 1: we know what he is. But you know, I don't
Speaker 1: excuse all his negative plays with the Jets. Um, I
Speaker 1: understand him was a terrible situation too, but I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a place to fly. And don't forget Chubba
Speaker 1: Hubbard and running back that you drafted one of the
Speaker 1: best names in the draft. No, look, I I think
Speaker 1: I think Donald's gonna do. Okay, I mean, I look,
Speaker 1: we what what did we just talk about with the Saints?
Speaker 1: Who's playing corner? Right? Falcon's what's their their corners are?
Speaker 1: He is not coming into a buzz off of defenses
Speaker 1: like he had facing Buffalo, facing Miami and to some
Speaker 1: degree facing the Patriots. He's got an opportunity here. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's part of it. Now. He just has to
Speaker 1: show the acumen to learn an offense. And Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: played well in for a while. He's just got to
Speaker 1: take some of the opportunities should they surface. That's the
Speaker 1: one thing Teddy has been, you know, kind of a
Speaker 1: verse two in his career. And Christy having Christian McCaffrey back,
Speaker 1: healthy guys that would help him and the defense could
Speaker 1: be good. They've gotten really young, like their front four
Speaker 1: on paper. I think Gross Motto slipped under the radar
Speaker 1: as a player when he was healthy, was really good
Speaker 1: last year. Derek Brown, you know, Shack Thompson like they
Speaker 1: Now you add the Jacy Horn like it's a fun
Speaker 1: looking defense. Now. I watched Donald every start, every snap
Speaker 1: Donald played. He needs to be rebuilt mechanics wise. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not just that he was in a bad situation.
Speaker 1: He fell into bad habits and had bad coaching. Let's
Speaker 1: see that rule stuff up here. I'd love to see it,
Speaker 1: but just don't be two great all right? The NFC
Speaker 1: West they close out with starting with the San Francisco
Speaker 1: Bourda Niners. Broad You know, we all breathe the Syra leaf.
Speaker 1: At least I did. Just that they drafted Tree Lance
Speaker 1: because I want to watch this team. You look at
Speaker 1: the young players in almost every position group except for
Speaker 1: maybe the secondary offensive line, and it's as good as
Speaker 1: any team I think in the league. Are we back
Speaker 1: to the point now after what happened last year with
Speaker 1: all the injuries, that we see the forty Niners as
Speaker 1: set up as well as any NFL team to contend
Speaker 1: for titles over the next three or four years. Are
Speaker 1: we there? Yeah? I think I told you, you know,
Speaker 1: a while back, I saw them as like a looming
Speaker 1: dynasty in the making. And look at even last year
Speaker 1: I'd point to some of their performances with all those injuries. There,
Speaker 1: go watch the two games against the Rams. They took
Speaker 1: care of business. I mean, they're they're good inside their
Speaker 1: own division. They've got the best play caller in football.
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's Trey Lance, who is sort
Speaker 1: of an outlier in the amount of college production and
Speaker 1: work that he had versus some of these other guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't use the way that some quarterbacks were,
Speaker 1: and I think he's a fascinating prospect. But it's it
Speaker 1: will be, you know, interesting to see how quickly he
Speaker 1: develops or if he pays well. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: develop him though, because Jimmy g is not durable. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has played, he has had thirty played in thirty
Speaker 1: games in four seasons with the Niners. That's why they
Speaker 1: had to go get a quarterback for the future. But
Speaker 1: also in case Jimmy goes down because to Jimmy's credit,
Speaker 1: well he's not there. They lose, right, so he is
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. But they've got to get Trey Lance
Speaker 1: already in that regard. But otherwise they're they're solid. I
Speaker 1: mean they've got there there. I'm with you when I
Speaker 1: say solid. They're they're set to rip off super Bowls.
Speaker 1: They're talking about Tamiko Ryan's is going to be a
Speaker 1: pretty seamless transition as d C. We know Boss is
Speaker 1: coming back. You know some of those injured players are
Speaker 1: coming back. Um, if they can get a tackle d
Speaker 1: tackle from last year to step up, that defense is
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. They've just got to get their offense
Speaker 1: together and they've got to stay healthy. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is Shanahan has one winning season air and uh now
Speaker 1: you have an addition to Garoppolo, you have this fallback
Speaker 1: um plan within the season and Slash he's the future
Speaker 1: potentially and Trey Lance. So one of those guys whoever's
Speaker 1: on the field. If Shanahan's as good as as everyone says,
Speaker 1: he should be a functional passer or potentially dynamic. And
Speaker 1: then you look at both sides of the ball, there's
Speaker 1: so many great players and they were so killed by
Speaker 1: injuries last year. Even beyond Garoppolo, I have them at
Speaker 1: number nine uh in the Power rankings. So to me,
Speaker 1: they're a top ten team even coming off the six
Speaker 1: and ten of last year, just because of the potential.
Speaker 1: It's just it's all there now. They just gotta do it.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would probably have him
Speaker 1: even higher. I don't even know, like just in terms
Speaker 1: of talent. They do have some little areas interior offensive line.
Speaker 1: They don't really have a third receiver right now, which
Speaker 1: is surprising because Kyle Shannon is usually all about that.
Speaker 1: Their secondary has been turned over and it's a tough division.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that would worry me if I'm they
Speaker 1: lose a lots of the Cardinals who and so that's
Speaker 1: that's been a matchup problem, and then you've got a
Speaker 1: really good division to try to get there. Four three
Speaker 1: two the Arizona Cardinals with marks. Alright, I have a
Speaker 1: four part question. Alright, I don't um, but our friend
Speaker 1: Jason zumwal Okay of Masters Over Artist, a super Cardinals fan,
Speaker 1: he sent in the question We're I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 1: All of this work on the defense is great, he says,
Speaker 1: getting more physical on both sides of the line is great.
Speaker 1: But if defenses only need to contain Kyler and back
Speaker 1: down his passes, which is essentially what happened the last
Speaker 1: seven games of last year. The question needs to be asked,
Speaker 1: is this offense just too short height wise? Andy Isabella,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. Now they've taken a five seven wide receiver
Speaker 1: and of course Kyler himself. Is this basically going to
Speaker 1: be Pop Warner versus pros? What am I missing here?
Speaker 1: Zamwald asked, dk metcalf was on the board and we
Speaker 1: grabbed Isabella. Higher graded and higher stature wide receivers were
Speaker 1: on the board and we took n Deal Moore. What
Speaker 1: are we doing here like this? I just like it's
Speaker 1: like the old playground rules. The bigger kids are gonna dominate,
Speaker 1: the smaller kids are gonna have trouble. Now you also
Speaker 1: got a factor in Kyler Murray's helmet, which is four
Speaker 1: ft tall, so that gets into an average height. These
Speaker 1: all the things you talked about. But when you mention
Speaker 1: all those receivers, they just can't draft wide receivers. I
Speaker 1: mean that will remember they drafted three wideouts. You know,
Speaker 1: two of them don't play in. Isabella is just a
Speaker 1: spot player, So that's why they go out and they
Speaker 1: signed They trade for de Hop and they signed Reggie Wayne,
Speaker 1: so you know, and they're not too short. Green has
Speaker 1: a better time in a New England. Right, So no
Speaker 1: but a J. Green. But it's Kyler Murray's not too short.
Speaker 1: What they were doing was a lot of college stuff.
Speaker 1: Who got Kyler Murray's butt kicked and that's why he
Speaker 1: had the shoulder and she was never the same after that. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they started to come on last year that had a
Speaker 1: ton of injuries. Look at you, they're gonna have Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones back. Marcus Golden on you know, you talked about
Speaker 1: a guy who's not talked about enough as a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: I think J. J. Watt Well, at least by reputation,
Speaker 1: create a lot of attention to those guys can get free.
Speaker 1: So I think defensively they're gonna be better to figure
Speaker 1: out what do I say A Simmons. But here's something
Speaker 1: to look at. You know, earlier Greg was talking about
Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, leadership having hot buds. There's some
Speaker 1: warm butts down in Arizona. Lift Kingsbury and Steve Kim
Speaker 1: are not coming into the season, uh with a free pass.
Speaker 1: I haven't told that the way that they finished last
Speaker 1: year and the fact that even though they won three
Speaker 1: more games with they finished did not sit well. That's right.
Speaker 1: So so we'll see, um, you know, in the toughest
Speaker 1: division in football, top to bottom, you know how things
Speaker 1: play out. Greg, we have been hawking about that. I've
Speaker 1: been saying, I feel like this is he's gonna be
Speaker 1: high on the hot butt rankings. When when they come
Speaker 1: out for us on August and you pointed out they
Speaker 1: have made progress, hasn't been like the progress isn't really
Speaker 1: the progress necessarily that it impresses you. Now they also
Speaker 1: have Malcolm Butler, Robert Alfred and Byron Murphy as their
Speaker 1: top three cornerback. They're gonna be targeting. That's not bad.
Speaker 1: Bro Alfred's played like two games in two years. They
Speaker 1: know he's in Atlantic A J Green six four by
Speaker 1: one months of yess. Hell up next the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 1: Steve Watch and they're probably gonna be coming in and
Speaker 1: I'm assuming in the top four of Dan Handess group
Speaker 1: because the Matthew Stafford trade. And this is now, okay,
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, if you are that dude seven who okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're that dude, and you can stretch the field. Okay,
Speaker 1: we went on, got you too, Sean Jackson stretched the
Speaker 1: field with him. We've got great underneath receivers. We've got
Speaker 1: some talented running back with with Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson.
Speaker 1: The offense of line, how good is it? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're really managing a lot of guys up there. They
Speaker 1: feel that they can do something. Aaron Krohmer is gone.
Speaker 1: They have taken so many hits to great coaches on
Speaker 1: their staff. Now I overhearm Morris replaces Brandon Staley, but
Speaker 1: losing rby Pleasant, their defensive backs coach to Detroit is
Speaker 1: a major hit. Jalen Ramsey will tell you that. So
Speaker 1: they're great a developing and procuring players, maybe the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. So you may see a lot
Speaker 1: of names on defense that you don't necessarily recognize. They't
Speaker 1: coach them up. They are masterful so far doing that.
Speaker 1: But again, everything is gonna hande on Matthew Stafford how
Speaker 1: quickly he adapts. And if this offense can be new,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it can it can resemble
Speaker 1: what they did the Super Bowl years. It has to
Speaker 1: be different because defenses have caught up right well, and
Speaker 1: they have to be better than it was a year
Speaker 1: ago by a lot because the d you can't expect
Speaker 1: the defense to be where it was. That was a
Speaker 1: special C sason. They and they and they had Seattle's number,
Speaker 1: Like that's not gonna repeat in the same way. I
Speaker 1: just like that that it's being framed as like, well,
Speaker 1: here's the season we finally learned about Matthew Stafford for
Speaker 1: the ninth straight season. Like it's like now it's like
Speaker 1: a new version of it. Next season, it'll be wow.
Speaker 1: That was his first season adjusting to Los Angeles. Here's
Speaker 1: this season we finally find that, Yeah, he's not necessarily great,
Speaker 1: but like definitely good enough to be on a title content.
Speaker 1: He's gotta be better than that to be worth I
Speaker 1: think the trade. He's got to be like a top
Speaker 1: five or six type of That would be my question too,
Speaker 1: because like it's a severe upgrade over Jared Goff and
Speaker 1: I love that they were bold and daring and just
Speaker 1: went for it and they got it done. But Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford a lot of things to like, But is he
Speaker 1: being a little overrated here that they're just gonna plug
Speaker 1: him into this offense and the Rams are a super
Speaker 1: Bowl team. I'm fascinated to see it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I'm excited to see him in
Speaker 1: a new place. Yeah, I think so. They went to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Jared Goff a young Jared Goff who
Speaker 1: a young jear golf that year. It is not as
Speaker 1: good as Matthew Stafford in an average year. And you
Speaker 1: guys can battle me with that, but I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: I think people have now almost underrated golf. Like I
Speaker 1: saw someone say like, like, you know, he has no
Speaker 1: armed talent or whatever. It's like Jared Goff has had
Speaker 1: s crazy It was the giveaways that it was completely
Speaker 1: I think people are so down on golf that it
Speaker 1: makes it seem like they have a massive upgrade of
Speaker 1: epic proportions now. But he was never that last one
Speaker 1: thing I like from Greg though, is this just complete
Speaker 1: dismissal Jim Bob Cooter's skills. Jim Bob Cooter, he's there.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he's there off coordinator. He wasn't
Speaker 1: does not like Cooter? All right? Um, finally, the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Did you know that the Seahawks made just three picks
Speaker 1: in the entire or draft. That that's that's tough. That's
Speaker 1: a tough one, um And there's only been five teams
Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty seven that have had that those a
Speaker 1: few amount of picks. UH their first pick fifty six overall,
Speaker 1: it was a wide receiver, Dwayne Extridge. And that's good
Speaker 1: because they were a little they were a little thin
Speaker 1: after DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. But Russell Wilson came
Speaker 1: out and was, you know, hawking this offseason. I can't
Speaker 1: get hit so much. There was really no true investment
Speaker 1: in the offensive line that I saw. Is this just
Speaker 1: setting the stage for more drama around Seattle where the
Speaker 1: team might not be better, the offensive line might not
Speaker 1: be better. Wilson's probably not gonna change his game so
Speaker 1: to keep getting hit, and this time next year there
Speaker 1: are another you know, they win ten or eleven games,
Speaker 1: don't go to the super Bowl, and more bad blood
Speaker 1: bubbles up. M hm, did they get Gabe Jackson? Did
Speaker 1: they trade? Did they trade for Gabe Jackson? Yeah? He's
Speaker 1: on there raft there? Yeah, so, I mean so so
Speaker 1: they didn't make some avout gave Jackson still a pretty
Speaker 1: good player, of cards, and you know they've got to
Speaker 1: get better at guards so they can run the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what um. You know everything is gonna be set
Speaker 1: up off the run and they got some pieces. It's
Speaker 1: just gonna be insing how their new OC Shane Waldron,
Speaker 1: it's gonna implement an offense. Now you have every O
Speaker 1: C slash head coach in this division running the same system.
Speaker 1: Because Shane Walton comes from McVeigh, right comes every head
Speaker 1: coach O C is gonna run the same system. So
Speaker 1: they're gonna be practicing against the same schemes. Nothing is
Speaker 1: gonna look unfamiliar. So now is when the players, the
Speaker 1: smart players, are tough players, and the guys who can
Speaker 1: execute under duress are really gonna shine. And that's where
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gets the nod over any quarterback in this division.
Speaker 1: But they couldn't figure out the Rams last day. You
Speaker 1: and I want to talk to some hight truth. There's
Speaker 1: they're out there in Seattle, or at least in this division.
Speaker 1: The Rams, i think, believe that Wilson's height was a
Speaker 1: problem going up against their defensive line, that he could
Speaker 1: not like that. They muddied it up enough with their
Speaker 1: big front line and the forty Niners have a very
Speaker 1: similar approach, and so does Arizona. That in this division,
Speaker 1: Murray and Wilson like have to be outside of the
Speaker 1: pocket sometimes to be able to see over the middle.
Speaker 1: There there were times last year where you where Wilson
Speaker 1: did not seem like he knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: It has been totally overlooked how poorly he played the
Speaker 1: second half of last season. It was like all blamed
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. It was kind of a wild
Speaker 1: a series of games for Russell Wilson considering the career
Speaker 1: that he had before that. I mean, DK Metcalf basically
Speaker 1: said that they had figured out their offense and then
Speaker 1: so but you have a new offense now, and it's
Speaker 1: I would just I wonder. I feel like there's so
Speaker 1: many agitated quarterbacks that it feels like Russell Wilson's agitation
Speaker 1: was like six months ago. And is that gone? Is
Speaker 1: that solved? I mean, That's what I'm saying. My whole
Speaker 1: point is that's all still right underneath the surface. Is
Speaker 1: going to be their quarterback? What happens after another potentially
Speaker 1: disappointed season, They don't well be playing for Sean Payton
Speaker 1: down in the near is good. Wait, we didn't use
Speaker 1: the final time out. I'm just gonna use it with
Speaker 1: one second to go, because uh, well, what are we
Speaker 1: going to get? We just ran that, We ran the
Speaker 1: hurry up offense, we got to the thirty seven yard line,
Speaker 1: triple zeros on the clock, and now we're going to
Speaker 1: the locker room with a time out of our back pocket.
Speaker 1: A bunch of jackasses. I thought we were taking a
Speaker 1: time out with two seconds left to let the starters
Speaker 1: run after off the field after two great performances around
Speaker 1: the a f C and NFC and everyone just cheers
Speaker 1: for us, and we we basking in the I guess
Speaker 1: you could just do that after the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it s nothing, do we need to be taking
Speaker 1: a time out? And I don't think so. Now that's
Speaker 1: a fair point. I thought Mark's point was was well served.
Speaker 1: We're getting more like the NBA here at the NFL,
Speaker 1: and next season it could be Rogers, Wilson, Watson, who
Speaker 1: knows who else could be up for in this podcast
Speaker 1: plum X by the Clock. Yeah, Steve, you've said it all.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about asking about your salary with the Falcons.
Speaker 1: That was out of bounds. And untoward. But I was
Speaker 1: just curious and I thought, maybe, no, you like the
Speaker 1: fact that I said, and I'll say it once again,
Speaker 1: I'm making more than we all make on our podcasts,
Speaker 1: which if you're making one dollar, is true. So Steve,
Speaker 1: Steve is smart, he's you know, he does everything here
Speaker 1: at the NFL. Now it's time to branch out and
Speaker 1: do some other things too. It's all about the side hustle,
Speaker 1: you know. I like Steve Wise, Like I imagine we
Speaker 1: haven't been to Steve's house yet, wonder where that invites spen,
Speaker 1: But like I imagine Steve has one of those really
Speaker 1: nice southern California backyards where he's got the outdoor kitchen
Speaker 1: set up and he's like a grill maestro. And maybe
Speaker 1: there's like an outdoor grilling show and like the Home
Speaker 1: Network with Steve and his wonderful wife and all the kids.
Speaker 1: And it's just like, I don't know, just something, something
Speaker 1: else to think about as we continue to diversify. Um,
Speaker 1: what you're about, guys, I'm fifty five, man, I am
Speaker 1: about the age out of this business. If if not voluntearily,
Speaker 1: people get you gotta get gone. So I've got to
Speaker 1: figure something out here. I saw that house once because
Speaker 1: he drove me home from a RAMS game. I wasn't invited,
Speaker 1: and then I called an uber from there. But it's
Speaker 1: a nice house, had a nice looking backyard and nice everything.
Speaker 1: It was. We talked about getting together as a group,
Speaker 1: but then you know, it's something called a pandemic struck
Speaker 1: the country and probably put that on ice for a bit.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I just had this image of, like,
Speaker 1: you know the soccer practice where one mom or dad
Speaker 1: forgets to pick up their kid and then the coach
Speaker 1: has to drive the kid home and it's really just
Speaker 1: kind of sad. That was Steve driving Greg back from
Speaker 1: some RAMS practice. No, no, no, I was being I
Speaker 1: was being was being a teammate. Help Rosia. Did he
Speaker 1: help pay for gas? And I'm assuming I would The
Speaker 1: answer would be yes, that he pitched in. The answer
Speaker 1: would be it wasn't asked for Mark. He shouldn't want
Speaker 1: to do that without asking that Greg. That's manners one
Speaker 1: off a Hamilton's, and that's it. My version of that
Speaker 1: was insisting he not drive me back to work, that
Speaker 1: I can take an uber from his house, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna get me. He was ashamed. He was ashamed, like, hey,
Speaker 1: drop me three blocks from from the office, just so
Speaker 1: nobody isn't Greig wearing the same thing he wore last night.
Speaker 1: All right, Steve, thank you so much, buddy, and uh yes,
Speaker 1: make sure the Huddle and Flow podcast to check that out,
Speaker 1: give it a listen, Trotter and Steve kill it on
Speaker 1: that and get amazing guests, um and have really meaningful,
Speaker 1: interesting fun conversations. Check it out. And the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: gig and everything else. Yeah, top of checking out that
Speaker 1: preseason how about that. I appreciate you guys. All Right,
Speaker 1: and there we go, after another week of podcasts on
Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast. Hope everybody enjoyed it. We
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Speaker 1: So that's it. This is Dan Hanson signing off for
Speaker 1: a quiet storm the old Boss, Steve Wise, Ricky Hollywood
Speaker 1: behind the glass for until today to beat the car