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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast b P A Best Podcast Available.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dana Hanson. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a brooks Are room build with some heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and he's back Steve Wish and it's time

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Speaker 1: to go around the NFC. What's up, Steve oh Man?

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Speaker 1: I fired up for this. NFC is my second, I

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Speaker 1: mean first favorite conference. I'm an NFC kid. Haven't been

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Speaker 1: born in Minneapolis, which is why I'm gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: about the vikings today and I'm real fired up about it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just glad to hear. You know. The rest

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Speaker 1: of the hero's great takes on this segment. Well, normally

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Speaker 1: we if the money drop at the beginning says best

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Speaker 1: podcast available, we wouldn't have someone on that that has

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Speaker 1: his own podcast, The Huddle and Flow. You you may

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Speaker 1: disagree with that, you know sentiment there, Steve, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: police check it out with Ysan Jim Trotter on a

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Speaker 1: hiatus right now, So technically that's not in the conversation

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Speaker 1: Ah okay, we were an opt out the gift of

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Speaker 1: the guy going like this. Um, all right, so if

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Speaker 1: you can in case you missed it. On Tuesday, the

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Speaker 1: great Clay Bonn was with us. We went around the

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Speaker 1: a f C in exactly forty eight minutes. And that's

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Speaker 1: so important, Steve. I think this is the first time

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Speaker 1: you've joined us for this particular exercise and the discipline

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Speaker 1: required to pull this off. You are a disciplined man,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we feel comfortable that you'll know not

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Speaker 1: to blow through stop signs when it comes to analysis

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Speaker 1: of each team. I'm not even gonna comment on that

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Speaker 1: There will be a sound, you know, a countdown from

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Speaker 1: the set up easy. Each of us take one team

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Speaker 1: per division in the NFC. Try to end your analysis

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Speaker 1: quickly with a question, and then we talk about that team.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some fun. Ricky, how are you doing? By

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Speaker 1: the way she does trying to bring her into the show.

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Speaker 1: And then I asked her and then there's like fifteen

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Speaker 1: seconds away. Yeah, it's so funny because we're not in

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Speaker 1: It's so seamless. Dan, you you know, millennial analysis, I

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Speaker 1: will destroy you have a great shop. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: let's kick it off right now around the NFC we go,

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Speaker 1: starting with the NFC East. Hit hit the horn, ricky Um,

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Speaker 1: Here we go the Washington football team. Greg Rosenthal. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're starting with the most exciting team in this division.

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Speaker 1: I like it all. It's just like a solid football team.

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Speaker 1: I there. It's just it's a solid head coach, it's

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, it's a lot of professionals. Look at this

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Speaker 1: They might be bringing in Charles Leno to play left tackle.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of their one hole. I think it's

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Speaker 1: says I feel a little bit like Washington fans, which

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Speaker 1: maybe they're looking at this team and they're like, how

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Speaker 1: least winning teams of the decade. Like, where do you

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Speaker 1: Because I've watched Washington so long, I kind of expect

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Speaker 1: look like it's gonna happen though this time Steve, Steve

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Speaker 1: is making a face. You just glossed over the whole

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Speaker 1: Don't you think Ryan Fitzpatrick is an upgrade from I mean,

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Speaker 1: that Fitzpatrick puts on your team. He's a fun quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's where they're gonna win games. I just love the weapons.

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Speaker 1: next the Dallas Cowboys Steve Watch. Oh yeah, So since

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Speaker 1: got the weapons at the skill position. But the Dallas

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Speaker 1: if they're competitive, he does some things with some of

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Speaker 1: the weapons that he has. I mean, their offensive line

427
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Speaker 1: is still so so they could not run the ball

428
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Speaker 1: at all for the past two years. I mean that

429
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Speaker 1: that part of things has to figure it out. But

430
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Speaker 1: if they could at least show some signs and may say, okay,

431
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Speaker 1: we can build are round justin fields. But if it's

432
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Speaker 1: if it's fits and starts and fits and starts, are

433
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Speaker 1: they open the season with Andy Dalton? I mean, this

434
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Speaker 1: isn't the Bears though, that's the problem. It's not Mr

435
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Speaker 1: Drobiskie's Bears. Like, yes, you're changing people's lives. Our producer

436
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Speaker 1: on the TV side, Matt Taitton, he had jumped shipped

437
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Speaker 1: from the Bears. He's back in now, Like you're bringing

438
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Speaker 1: people back in, but their offensive line, they're starting a

439
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Speaker 1: rookie at one side, Germaine Effetti on the other, it's

440
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Speaker 1: not the same Khalio Mack. It's not the same Achem Hicks. Like,

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Speaker 1: unless those guys are as good as they used to be,

442
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. You know, you just guarantee that

443
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Speaker 1: this part of the podcast will be on our network

444
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Speaker 1: program mat Ting up next the Minnesota Vikings. Man, Well,

445
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Speaker 1: you know Mike Zimmer and Rick Bielmant guys, they've they've

446
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Speaker 1: gone and done it. They've drafted a quarterback and Kellen Mond,

447
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Speaker 1: even though he's a third round pick, it is gonna

448
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Speaker 1: take those three consecutive you know where they're coming below

449
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Speaker 1: two hundred yard passing games by Kirk, Where they where

450
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Speaker 1: they go one and two before the fan base is Playmont, Playmond,

451
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Speaker 1: they're not. You know, look who knows if min is

452
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Speaker 1: gonna get ready. He's got a completely different skill set

453
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Speaker 1: than Kirk Cousins. But they have introduced themselves into the

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Speaker 1: quarterback controversy world, and it is about time because Kirk Cousins,

455
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Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna show up every day. You know,

456
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Speaker 1: some weeks he's gonna bring you a junk mail and

457
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Speaker 1: some days he's gonna bring you a nice STIMMI check. Okay,

458
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Speaker 1: but it's this is a team that is so reliant

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Speaker 1: on Dalvin Cook as well. Now I like some of

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Speaker 1: the things they did to enhance their offensive line. Okay,

461
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Speaker 1: they've they've done some things to get better on the

462
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Speaker 1: offensive line, which they had to do. Their defense is

463
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Speaker 1: gonna be better. Remember last year they were just destimated

464
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Speaker 1: by injuries. You get Anthony Barr and Daniel Hunter back.

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Speaker 1: I think Patrick Peterson still got some game left there

466
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Speaker 1: once mocking that free signing. I think he's got some

467
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Speaker 1: game left to come out help. So I think the

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Speaker 1: Vikings are going to contend for the division. M Okay,

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Speaker 1: even with those three consecutive minus two yard passing games

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Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins, because they've got Dalvin Cook, and even

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Speaker 1: though there's gonna be whispers of play Kellen Mond, especially

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Speaker 1: if he has a good preseason, the Vikings are gonna

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Speaker 1: hold firm on Kirk and they are going to challenge

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Speaker 1: for the division. I'm with you. I like that. I

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Speaker 1: think that Daris saw Wyatt Davis is of the two linemen.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, this is why I would be

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Speaker 1: stupid to put in the rookie uh If Cousins. And

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Speaker 1: when when Cousins goes into one of those three week funks,

479
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Speaker 1: he always comes out of it and then for the

480
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Speaker 1: next five weeks he's in like the top three in

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Speaker 1: the league and passer rating, and he's got an absurd

482
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Speaker 1: touchdown to interception ratio. That's just the Kirk Cousins experience.

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Speaker 1: So bailing on him when he goes into a slump

484
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Speaker 1: is just costing yourself down the line. I would worry

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Speaker 1: about this though, in terms of you know, Monds becoming

486
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Speaker 1: like Mr Excitement. You still have to pay Kirk Cousins

487
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Speaker 1: thirty five million guaranteed next season, so you know, he's

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Speaker 1: untradeable um lets, you know, unless the team is completely

489
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Speaker 1: out of their minds and so you're you're the controversy

490
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Speaker 1: will wage on. It's not easy to get rid of

491
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins for for next season. So nuts. But he's

492
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Speaker 1: not like an albatross like some other quarterbacks either. He's

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's streaky. It's weird because you think of

494
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Speaker 1: him as this like steady, boring guy. No, he is

495
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Speaker 1: either on fire, like in a good way, or he's

496
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Speaker 1: you know, like you know, lighting your playbook on fire.

497
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Speaker 1: They need those rookies though, on the offensive line to

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Speaker 1: like play well, everyone always like slots in. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: we we signed two good rookies, you know, and you

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Speaker 1: know we drafted one in the first round. That solves that.

501
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Speaker 1: It's like, no, half the time, it's gonna be a disaster.

502
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Speaker 1: It's like a bigger problem. It's like starting it's on

503
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Speaker 1: your radar, right like it just say so, you're right,

504
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Speaker 1: there's always the aception. Oh we fixed their offensive one. Well,

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Speaker 1: all right, the Green Bay Packers. You alright, So Aaron

506
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Speaker 1: Rodgers obviously in the conversation top ten quarterback all time,

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Speaker 1: coming off a year in which you want m v

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Speaker 1: P for the third time, he's furious. He's filled with

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Speaker 1: venom and vengeance. That's venom. Jin's so perhaps, knowing the

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Speaker 1: man and how spiteful he is, and nobody knows him

511
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Speaker 1: more than the Packers internally, perhaps this is the time. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: he's the Claire vengeance. Perhaps this is the time to

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Speaker 1: trade a thirty seven year old quarterback before he goes

514
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Speaker 1: and retires on you. Um, And I know it's it

515
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Speaker 1: takes you completely out of contention in one and all

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Speaker 1: that and maybe for next couple of years. But maybe

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Speaker 1: if you truly know the situation, this is the right move.

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Speaker 1: Anybody agree with me? What is the right move trading? Um?

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Speaker 1: If he if he's telling you, and he's telling all

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Speaker 1: free agents don't come back, I'm leaving, and he's telling

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Speaker 1: you face to face, I'm never playing for you for

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Speaker 1: you again, maybe you should listen to reset your franchise.

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Speaker 1: I guess my point would be, unless you're getting established

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Speaker 1: players back right now, let him rot for a year

525
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Speaker 1: because you're only getting drafts. The draft picks are I'm

526
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Speaker 1: not buying that he's gonna be out. We're already seeing

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Speaker 1: a little bit of um hedging that this is a

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Speaker 1: solution that could be fixed by former teammates on our network,

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Speaker 1: James Jones, you know John Quin talking on the radio.

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Speaker 1: So if they think it can be fixed, I think

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Speaker 1: it can be fixed. And if you're only getting draft picks,

532
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Speaker 1: those draft picks are the exact same getting him next

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Speaker 1: April or next February as they are right now, So

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Speaker 1: you might as well just wait and see. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, Greg, I mean to your point though, if

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Speaker 1: you're going to trade and go ahead and trade him

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Speaker 1: before the season, because you drafted Jordan's Love in the

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Speaker 1: first round, He's going to play at some point. So

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade him, move him. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Packers are going to trade him. I think it's

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Speaker 1: you played for us, or you play for No One.

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Speaker 1: Go host Jeopardy or soul Train, whatever it may be

543
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Speaker 1: that tickles your fancy, but you are not going to

544
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Speaker 1: play for anyone else. If it's not us. You still

545
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Speaker 1: get Jordan's Love reps for the year. You still have

546
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Speaker 1: the tough, tough shoes. This is like he's got to

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Speaker 1: play anywhere. I get it, But it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: no win, like you're taking over for the m v

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Speaker 1: P the But you can spin it saying he's the

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Speaker 1: one who sat out Packers Nation. We didn't trade him,

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Speaker 1: we didn't dump him. He's the one who wanted to

552
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Speaker 1: go sit in the sandbox. So that's the way they

553
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Speaker 1: have to spend it, because there's no way they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win this battle, especially after the same circus that happened

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Speaker 1: with Brett Farve seems to be to some degree playing

556
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Speaker 1: out again. I would be concerned about the Jordan Love

557
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: angle though, I mean all whispers and reports out of

558
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Speaker 1: Green Bay wasn't even the backup last year that he

559
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Speaker 1: just didn't develop and they knew, you know, coming out

560
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Speaker 1: of Utah State that he was going to have to

561
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Speaker 1: take time. Um, but still there's no evidence. There's like, oh,

562
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Speaker 1: he's blowing up in practice and he's like Colin Kaepernick versu.

563
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Alex Smith type situation. It's like, who is this guy?

564
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Speaker 1: Is he the starter? Can you do it? Isn't mattle

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Speaker 1: withth floor supposed to be a quarterback whisper so much

566
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Speaker 1: of this stuff. You're these guys are getting high outer

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Speaker 1: whisper into. Go on, Steve, let's just continue the Roger's conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling a t o. Go ahead. No, these guys

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Speaker 1: are getting hired because they're they're the offensive gurus, right,

570
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Speaker 1: and they can't develop a quarterback who you took in

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Speaker 1: the first round. Sounds to me like this quarterback whisperer's

572
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Speaker 1: kind of like a quarterback mumbler. I'm tired. I'm tired

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Speaker 1: of sitting You're saying that guys fired today. No, I

574
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Speaker 1: mean this is this has been a this has been

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Speaker 1: you know, in my crow for a while. When all

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Speaker 1: these quarters, all these quoaches are getting paid big money,

577
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Speaker 1: they're they're leap frogging other candidates, deserving candidates, because they're

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Speaker 1: great play callers and plates, great play schemers, and they

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Speaker 1: can't develop a guy you draft in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Always on the quarterback, totally right. But I think part

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Speaker 1: of the issue is that I don't think Matt Laflor

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Speaker 1: wanted to move up to draft Jordan Love and he

583
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Speaker 1: feels a little powerless in this situation. You know what,

584
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Speaker 1: everybody's got to grow up a little bit. Everybody's gotta

585
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: put on their big boy pants. You know. Aaron Rodgers

586
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: has got to live with the situation or retire or whatever.

587
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: Just grow up. If you're still upset that Jordan loves

588
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Speaker 1: in the building and you're a head coach Matt with floor,

589
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: deal with it. That's just the reality, and don't be

590
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Speaker 1: afraid of it and embrace trying to grow him into

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Speaker 1: a star. That going back to my original point, Greg

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Speaker 1: was that if this is really the way this thing

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Speaker 1: is turning out, and you and this is not about money,

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Speaker 1: and and maybe maybe not Mrs Miller, my social studies

595
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: teacher in eighth grade, said money makes the world go around.

596
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: It's what everything's about. And if this is actually, deep

597
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: down just about Aaron Rodgers getting a raise, pay the man.

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Speaker 1: But if you've sensed that this is actually something else,

599
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: something about his personality and a sense of betrayal and

600
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Speaker 1: all this ugliness, it's starting to make the Brett Farve

601
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: situation look pleasant in comparison. Cut your losses and set

602
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Speaker 1: your franchise up for ten years. Yeah, my point, my

603
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: thing would be that just do that next year, because

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Speaker 1: what you don't want is Aaron Rodgers blazing through the

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Speaker 1: a f C playoffs, especially when you're not getting anything back.

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Speaker 1: I presume that is gonna help you this year. Now

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Speaker 1: if you're telling me, by the way, yeah, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: if it's not just draft picks, if someone is willing

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Speaker 1: to trade you, you know, Bradley Chubb and Courtland Sutton

610
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: from Denver or Vegas is willing to trade you, like all,

611
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: they're good players. I just don't see that happening. I

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Speaker 1: see this as as a retirement for a year and

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Speaker 1: he comes back, or and then then there's a trade,

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00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: or he's just gonna come back, which feels a lot

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Speaker 1: more likely. I mean, it's not easy time to be

616
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Speaker 1: Brian Goodencost because it's like you're the person who's attached

617
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Speaker 1: to all this chaos and yeah, you know what, trade

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Speaker 1: him at some point, whether it's this year or next.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got this quarterback sitting there Jordan loved would

620
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Speaker 1: better be really good or the place is going to

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Speaker 1: be set on fire. It's you know, some storms of

622
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Speaker 1: hit the shores of Germany's favorite general manager, and Bob

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Speaker 1: McGinn of The Athletic reported that Rogers has mocked Douda

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Speaker 1: Kunst in group text messages with teammates referring to Gouda

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Speaker 1: Kunst as Jerry Krauss. And by the way, it's Jerry

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Speaker 1: krous Um. First of all, one of the most successful

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Speaker 1: gems of all time. He was one of the most

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Speaker 1: successful gems of all time because of Michael Jordan's and yes,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows the ESPN doc uh and learned about the

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Speaker 1: Jerry Krause power struggle within the Chicago Bulls in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: But the great lad Chris Wesling once recommended a book

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Speaker 1: to me that I just finishing right now, Playing for Keeps,

633
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Speaker 1: David Halbert stand On. That really gives you an idea

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Speaker 1: of what was going on in Chicago. And Jerry Krouse

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Speaker 1: and rest rest in Peace was a man that had

636
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: a lot of demons and a lot of insecurities. So

637
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: if you know the true story of Jerry Krass, it's

638
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: one of the worst things you could call somebody, because

639
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: you know Krause's he deserved it. If goodakuts can get

640
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: six rings in the Hall of Fame. But here's the

641
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: thing also about Krouse, like Kraus was very maybe this

642
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: is the way it is behind the scenes in Green Bay,

643
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: but Kraus was. It was a big thing that he

644
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: was always trying to take credit. The sense of Brian

645
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Goodacuts is doing that also. I don't know, maybe it is,

646
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: but what I haven't want anything I do. I do

647
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: sense that Mark Murphy uh is a really important figure here.

648
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: He's he's the essentially the CEO and president. And he

649
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: was right there saying goodbye to Brett farve H fifteen

650
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: years ago too, so he's he's been through this before.

651
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: And they drafted Jordan's Love with the intent to say

652
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: bye bye Aaron Rodgers. It just you know, you didn't

653
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: see that m v P coming. All right, let's head

654
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: to the NFC South Greg the New Orleans States. This

655
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: team is not as deep as it used to be.

656
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: I think their first round pick was surprising because they

657
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: had so many holes on the roster. Instead, you're putting

658
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: like Cam Jordans on. Notice that that's how I took

659
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: that Peyton Turner pick, because they didn't take any cornerbacks

660
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: or wide receivers. High really thin at those positions. Their

661
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: linebacker used to be kind of deep. Now it's to

662
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Mario Davis and nothing else. I think very quietly the

663
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: depth of this team. You look at their two and

664
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: three receivers, are you know Trae Kwan, Sith Smith and

665
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Marcus Callaway has been eroded. So it's not just about

666
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It was about what happened when they couldn't

667
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: spend any money in free agency. I found this draft

668
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: strange and I just don't see them as such a

669
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: built stacked team for Jamis Winston to take over, because

670
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: I mean there are scouts calling Patent Turner lowering expectations

671
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: for his head. Though this is not as good a

672
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: roster as it was, it's got some goals, no, I

673
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: just I mean I think that you know, they're probably

674
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: annoyed that people were annoyed by their draft. But someone

675
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: called Peyton Turner, a scout called them a severe reach.

676
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: A lot of people like their second round pick more

677
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: than the first round pick in terms of where who

678
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: they got. Just like I I think that they hit

679
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: the wall that you're I think you're right, Greg. I

680
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: mean we saw the Paths get in trouble with that too.

681
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you can there's only so much you can do,

682
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: and they you know, you're losing guys like Trey Hendrickson. Uh,

683
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, Breezes out the building. And to me, I mean,

684
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is is an idea, um, but it's like, oh,

685
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this version of Jamis Winston minus the

686
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: mistakes because Sean Payton is the coach tb D. That's

687
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: just no guarantee of that, absolutely TVD. And and I'm

688
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: went to Greg and Cam Jordan's not un noticed. Marcus

689
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Davenports on notice. I mean they gave him a guaranteed

690
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: contract for next year, they picked up his option, They

691
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: picked up his option, that's all he did. So I

692
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: mean he's being put on notice. Plus you lose Trey

693
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: Hendrickson in that defense, you've got to have someone who

694
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: can rush rush the pastor it's usually you know, rotational,

695
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: especially in this division when you got some of the quarterbacks.

696
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look out for Sam Donald, but it's the

697
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: roster that they're putting a lot on Jamis. I mean

698
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: they really are. We'll see. I think this is one

699
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: of those things. They'll never say it out loud, but

700
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: organizations do this. If we have to take a year

701
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: to reset things, this is the year to do it.

702
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: And I think the Saints are saying this is our

703
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: reset year to get the cap right to try to

704
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: stay competitive, but to try to figure out who we

705
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: are for the future. And if we win now, fine

706
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: and dandy. That makes a lot of sense. I like

707
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: where you're coming from on that. And I also wonder

708
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: because I've kept waiting all throughout this offseason for Sean

709
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Payton to pull a rabbit out of the hat and

710
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: really bring in like a big time successor to Drew Brees.

711
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: And see this is kind of a smoke screen, the

712
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: Winston Taysom Hill thing. It hasn't happened. And perhaps it's not.

713
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: Or like what Steve saying, We're gonna see what we

714
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: got here with these two guys. Maybe it all connects

715
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: and and we we have something big that comes out

716
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: of it. Or maybe next year Deshaun Watson's on the Saints,

717
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, like Us Wilson or Russell Wilson or somebody else.

718
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Maybe there is a big move coming, just not this year.

719
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: That makes sense because and I think when I'm talking

720
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: about the rafter falling, you know, down a lot, it's like,

721
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: who is starting a cornerback on this scene. I can't

722
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: figure you are, Yeah, like they they are, there are

723
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: spots here. Who's starting at tight end Adam Troutman like

724
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: Christian shar is gonna coach up that secondary. My friend,

725
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: he's back the defending Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

726
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Mark Sister, I would just look at like, how incredible

727
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: this team was down the at the points they put

728
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: up over their final eight games twenty six points thirty one,

729
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty thirty one thirty one Byron Leftwich is like,

730
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: can we have a little more credit for this guy?

731
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: I feel like he's completely not mentioned enough for what

732
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: he's done. I have a two part question, though, do

733
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: you think just because everyone's come back the way that

734
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: offenses work in the NFL, um assuming that Brady stays Brady,

735
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: that they just pick up where they left off on

736
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: offense and do their old you know, dropping forty on

737
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: the reg um from week one through week eighteen next year?

738
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: Or is or? Is? Or? Is that just simply not

739
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: that easy? And secondly, is there a like who actually

740
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: in the NFC if Rogers were ever to not be

741
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: on the Packers to challenge this team? What team stands

742
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: out is anyone that's gonna get in their way? I

743
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: as a journalism school graduate, Mark, you usually you do

744
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: the double question thing a lot, which they say, don't

745
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: do that because they're usually just gonna pick one of

746
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: your questions. Well, I didn't go to journalism school, so

747
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, miss that less and also clussy. You're asking

748
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: three people, so do you want us each to answer

749
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: both parts of the question, answer it as you wish,

750
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: or to orients or none of it. I think the

751
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: offense does pick up where it left off. I don't

752
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: know if they can keep it going the whole season,

753
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of times the Patriots would

754
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: come out of those defending championship in September, they would

755
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: just like they would roll. And I don't see any

756
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: reason not to uh for this team, keeping that motivation,

757
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: keeping that level of play through eight team, it's gonna

758
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: be a different season. I'm not counting on their defense

759
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: being as good as it was because this was a

760
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: defensive team as good as the offense was. At the

761
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: very end, this was a defensive team. And remember those

762
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: points we scored because the defense has given them short fields.

763
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean they were getting takeaways, taking away possessions and

764
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: then really put in a position where left in areas

765
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: should call a great place. You know, I don't like

766
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the fact of not changing. I think every team in

767
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: the NFL is different than the NBA. Right the Spurs

768
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: can up they're starting five and real off four or five,

769
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: you know, straight championships just because of nature of the

770
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: game and great coaching and things like that. But in

771
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: the NFL, I think you have got to change parts

772
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 1: every now and then, because if you hit a slump,

773
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: guys can get sour, or if you start rolling, guys

774
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: can be like, okay, we got this, or we can

775
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: turn it on and you may meet that bus all

776
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: one week who you just can't beat, because, as we know,

777
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL, game of matchups and so I don't

778
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: I like the fact of bringing everyone back during an

779
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: imposing team, there's a lot of mouth to feed. Though

780
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: on offense, if ever, there was a lot of more

781
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: type of team this is. It presents though like quell,

782
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: like what could be turmoil and with a different type

783
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: of quarterback. I think you're a student of the game,

784
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: Steve student. Do you remember a defending champion ever going

785
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: this all in and bringing back the same team But

786
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: you never, But you mean most offending champions and have

787
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks who took less to make sure it happens, you right, right,

788
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: do what happens the Atlanta Falcons' Steve and you know

789
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: the expectations here are completely unknown. Um. You know, look,

790
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: they clearly committed to Matt Ryan by not going for

791
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback, even to the point where they signed Asian

792
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: McCarron's his backup going into the draft. So this is

793
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's team for this year. He has got weapons

794
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: they drafted to interior offensive lineman who could who are

795
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: plugging play type of guys? Now can they coach them

796
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: up to protect Matt Ryan who has been sacked like

797
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: crazy over the past three years and his tenure with

798
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: with their cutters is oct who's no longer. They're higher interceptions,

799
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: higher sack rate. Just by whatever is going on right there,

800
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: getting Kyle Pitts's tight end, that's gonna help. The big

801
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: question is the Julio Jones factor, because we just talked

802
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers possibly getting moved. This is real, Okay,

803
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: this is very real that Julio Jones could get moved

804
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: before training camp because there is busted right and they

805
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: figure he's the one high salary guy that teams are

806
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: calling about. They can't take back salary so they can

807
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: get future picks seconds. You know, people thinking gotta get

808
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: too for he's thirty two and he's been nicked up.

809
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: His trade value will never be higher than it will

810
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: be before going into training camp. So they are gonna listen.

811
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: So if you don't have Julio Jones, Matt Ryan's a

812
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: different quarterback even with Kyle Pitts when he doesn't have

813
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and his defense. Yeah, they drafted some players,

814
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: but they still have a ways to go, especially changing

815
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: defensive fronts. Um who knows the Atlanta Falcons guy. I mean,

816
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: this is a total toss up the type of team

817
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I think maybe they can they can win six games,

818
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: they can win you know, ten or eleven. You just

819
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: don't know. These guys are super tired of me bringing

820
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: this up. But I mean they have like twenty four

821
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: less players than other teams in the NFL, and there's

822
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: six undrafted free agents. So that that But that's the

823
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: Jones point. It's not like we want to move Julio

824
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: Jones because of his age or his or abilities. Like

825
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: we've got to find a way to create cap space.

826
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: And I just wonder though I know they'll be a taker,

827
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: but is Julio Jones right now? Someone that another team?

828
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the wide receivers have been drafted like teams

829
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: have fulfilled those needs. Who's going to come after Julio

830
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Jones and give a ton away? I think that's tricky.

831
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: Like the Raiders. The Raiders, they'll put them at the

832
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: top of the list. Raiders first round pick next year

833
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: for Julio. I don't know up a first rounder. I mean,

834
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: if you don't get a first then what are we

835
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: doing here? Life is two shorts. Just to see Julio

836
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: Jones and Kyle Picks together? I get it. But for

837
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: a second round pick, you can always move money around

838
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: like ten teams that can fashion themselves contenders that would

839
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: see Julio Jones is a guy that could put them

840
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: over the top. Most the new got a second. You're

841
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna send out Julio Jones for a second? That's disrespect.

842
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: Who do you get that second? From? There? Greg? At

843
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: some chumps in the in box ground it was a

844
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: bad idea. Just put them together. Who cares? D and

845
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: p S will save this defense there? Getting rid of

846
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: quick might be an upgrade. I mean, let's a little

847
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: bit right now, what's going up the same. Let's see

848
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: them together. Oh I want to call time out. I'm

849
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: gonna use the second time. Remember we never go into

850
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: the tunnel without using our time out, and I'm not

851
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: using the third. You can throw that out there, Steve,

852
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: you got a gig with the Falcons. Congratulations on that,

853
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: your bank contributor on their website, all sorts of content

854
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: and without getting too personal, how much are they paying you?

855
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: You just got two personal I'm not gonna I'll put

856
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: it this way where I'm not gonna bust their salary gap. Yeah, no, no,

857
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: I mean the cool part is I'm gonna help. I'm

858
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna do the mina times to be in the in

859
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: the preseason booth. I mean that's how this all star.

860
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's awesome. Yeah, that's how it all started.

861
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: Something I really wanted to do. And so I'm gonna

862
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: be in the booth with Core Wire and DJ Show

863
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: with two guys that covered when they were with the Falcons,

864
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give that a whirl,

865
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: and and everything else just kind of expanded off of that.

866
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: So all right, we'll start watching your A J. McCain

867
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: tape because you're gonna be seeing a lot. I cannot wait.

868
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: If you're worried. Yeah, the reason why the Falcons are

869
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: in such salary cap hell is that Weiss contract they

870
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: took out. Are they going to send you to the

871
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: preseason games? Is that the plan? Like where with the

872
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: COVID preseason landscape? Here, Hey, guys, I'll give you a

873
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: tip and you guys will appreciate this. Since we're in

874
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: time out, I'm getting paid more than all of us

875
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: are getting paid for our podcast. Time out doesn't mean

876
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna air, Steve. It still will be

877
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: on the podcast. But I okay, it's all good, Steve.

878
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: I have a mortgage now, but we'll talk off Mike. Wait, Steve,

879
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: does this mean that you would um potentially relocate to

880
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta down the road if this if this assignment became

881
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger, because you are you know you got

882
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta roots that part of the Nope, Nope, love lay Man.

883
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm good here. I have friends and I'm only loving Atlanta.

884
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: But I am here and only three preseason games, right,

885
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: we're not waiting to bring out the three preseason game season.

886
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: That's now, let's do it. So many good thing is

887
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: and the good thing is it's not a team that

888
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: I really cover, so like when we get to the

889
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: regular season and stuff, it's not like I'm I'm like

890
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: on the home team. If I were to cover Falcons game,

891
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: because the NFL network requires the Falcons to like be

892
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: in contention for twelve before they start covering them. It's

893
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: like they're just don't Lenc south Man. You know, so

894
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: many of us are Los Angeles transplants, but few have

895
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: done it better than Steve. Steve is a guy that

896
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: fits right, all right, let us move on time in

897
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Okay, Sam Donald, let's see where he's at now. Okay,

898
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Matt Rule. So he's paired with the competent, respected offense

899
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: of mine. That's an upgrade over you know who. He's

900
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: playing now with one of the great running backs for

901
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: the last decade and CMC hopefully McCaffrey's healthy. He's got

902
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: an old friend and Robbie Anderson, who they made some

903
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: real nice music together in New York. D J. Moore

904
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: like a sneaky kind of rising start wide receiver, second

905
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: round pick L s U wid White out charts. Marshall Jr.

906
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Is the Donald Hive. Fractured, isn't it Maybe now that

907
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: he's been traded, but I still look route for the

908
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: guy about to be proven right on Sam or will

909
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: we remember this as another poor investment at QB by

910
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. My guess it will be somewhere in

911
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: the middle where each hive member like stakes their ground

912
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: and doesn't move off of it. That he gives you

913
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: enough that of course it's going to be better. So

914
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: like you with Teddy Bridgewater basically exactly like let's say

915
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: they have the nineteenth ranked passing game d v O A,

916
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: like the Panthers did a year ago. Let's say it's

917
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: about the same as with Teddy. People will defend Donald

918
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: because it'll be a lot better than we've ever seen him.

919
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: And I do worry about the protection there. They didn't

920
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: go get a left tackle. Really, the the entire offensive

921
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: line looks like a question and they're they're not super deep.

922
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: If at wide receiver, if Marshall Uh, the rookie doesn't

923
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: pan out. So I mean, it sounds a lot of

924
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: challenge of New York Giants situation with Daniel Jones. I mean,

925
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: if we don't get the version of Sam Donald that

926
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: everyone's been crowing about for three years here. Uh, then

927
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: we know what he is. But you know, I don't

928
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: excuse all his negative plays with the Jets. Um, I

929
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: understand him was a terrible situation too, but I mean,

930
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: this is a place to fly. And don't forget Chubba

931
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Hubbard and running back that you drafted one of the

932
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: best names in the draft. No, look, I I think

933
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: I think Donald's gonna do. Okay, I mean, I look,

934
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: we what what did we just talk about with the Saints?

935
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Who's playing corner? Right? Falcon's what's their their corners are?

936
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: He is not coming into a buzz off of defenses

937
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: like he had facing Buffalo, facing Miami and to some

938
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: degree facing the Patriots. He's got an opportunity here. Okay,

939
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: so that's part of it. Now. He just has to

940
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: show the acumen to learn an offense. And Teddy Bridgewater

941
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: played well in for a while. He's just got to

942
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: take some of the opportunities should they surface. That's the

943
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: one thing Teddy has been, you know, kind of a

944
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: verse two in his career. And Christy having Christian McCaffrey back,

945
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: healthy guys that would help him and the defense could

946
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: be good. They've gotten really young, like their front four

947
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: on paper. I think Gross Motto slipped under the radar

948
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: as a player when he was healthy, was really good

949
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: last year. Derek Brown, you know, Shack Thompson like they

950
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Now you add the Jacy Horn like it's a fun

951
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: looking defense. Now. I watched Donald every start, every snap

952
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: Donald played. He needs to be rebuilt mechanics wise. I mean,

953
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: it's not just that he was in a bad situation.

954
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: He fell into bad habits and had bad coaching. Let's

955
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: see that rule stuff up here. I'd love to see it,

956
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: but just don't be two great all right? The NFC

957
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: West they close out with starting with the San Francisco

958
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Bourda Niners. Broad You know, we all breathe the Syra leaf.

959
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: At least I did. Just that they drafted Tree Lance

960
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: because I want to watch this team. You look at

961
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: the young players in almost every position group except for

962
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: maybe the secondary offensive line, and it's as good as

963
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: any team I think in the league. Are we back

964
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: to the point now after what happened last year with

965
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: all the injuries, that we see the forty Niners as

966
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: set up as well as any NFL team to contend

967
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: for titles over the next three or four years. Are

968
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: we there? Yeah? I think I told you, you know,

969
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: a while back, I saw them as like a looming

970
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: dynasty in the making. And look at even last year

971
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: I'd point to some of their performances with all those injuries. There,

972
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: go watch the two games against the Rams. They took

973
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: care of business. I mean, they're they're good inside their

974
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: own division. They've got the best play caller in football.

975
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: I think for me, it's Trey Lance, who is sort

976
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: of an outlier in the amount of college production and

977
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: work that he had versus some of these other guys.

978
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't use the way that some quarterbacks were,

979
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: and I think he's a fascinating prospect. But it's it

980
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: will be, you know, interesting to see how quickly he

981
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: develops or if he pays well. They're gonna have to

982
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: develop him though, because Jimmy g is not durable. I mean,

983
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: he has played, he has had thirty played in thirty

984
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: games in four seasons with the Niners. That's why they

985
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: had to go get a quarterback for the future. But

986
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: also in case Jimmy goes down because to Jimmy's credit,

987
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: well he's not there. They lose, right, so he is

988
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. But they've got to get Trey Lance

989
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: already in that regard. But otherwise they're they're solid. I

990
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: mean they've got there there. I'm with you when I

991
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: say solid. They're they're set to rip off super Bowls.

992
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: They're talking about Tamiko Ryan's is going to be a

993
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: pretty seamless transition as d C. We know Boss is

994
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: coming back. You know some of those injured players are

995
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: coming back. Um, if they can get a tackle d

996
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: tackle from last year to step up, that defense is

997
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. They've just got to get their offense

998
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: together and they've got to stay healthy. I mean, this

999
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: is Shanahan has one winning season air and uh now

1000
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: you have an addition to Garoppolo, you have this fallback

1001
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: um plan within the season and Slash he's the future

1002
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: potentially and Trey Lance. So one of those guys whoever's

1003
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: on the field. If Shanahan's as good as as everyone says,

1004
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: he should be a functional passer or potentially dynamic. And

1005
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: then you look at both sides of the ball, there's

1006
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: so many great players and they were so killed by

1007
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: injuries last year. Even beyond Garoppolo, I have them at

1008
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: number nine uh in the Power rankings. So to me,

1009
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: they're a top ten team even coming off the six

1010
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: and ten of last year, just because of the potential.

1011
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's all there now. They just gotta do it.

1012
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would probably have him

1013
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: even higher. I don't even know, like just in terms

1014
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: of talent. They do have some little areas interior offensive line.

1015
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: They don't really have a third receiver right now, which

1016
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: is surprising because Kyle Shannon is usually all about that.

1017
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: Their secondary has been turned over and it's a tough division.

1018
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: That's the thing that would worry me if I'm they

1019
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: lose a lots of the Cardinals who and so that's

1020
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: that's been a matchup problem, and then you've got a

1021
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: really good division to try to get there. Four three

1022
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: two the Arizona Cardinals with marks. Alright, I have a

1023
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: four part question. Alright, I don't um, but our friend

1024
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: Jason zumwal Okay of Masters Over Artist, a super Cardinals fan,

1025
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: he sent in the question We're I'm gonna ask you.

1026
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: All of this work on the defense is great, he says,

1027
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: getting more physical on both sides of the line is great.

1028
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: But if defenses only need to contain Kyler and back

1029
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: down his passes, which is essentially what happened the last

1030
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: seven games of last year. The question needs to be asked,

1031
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: is this offense just too short height wise? Andy Isabella,

1032
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. Now they've taken a five seven wide receiver

1033
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: and of course Kyler himself. Is this basically going to

1034
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: be Pop Warner versus pros? What am I missing here?

1035
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Zamwald asked, dk metcalf was on the board and we

1036
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: grabbed Isabella. Higher graded and higher stature wide receivers were

1037
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: on the board and we took n Deal Moore. What

1038
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: are we doing here like this? I just like it's

1039
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: like the old playground rules. The bigger kids are gonna dominate,

1040
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: the smaller kids are gonna have trouble. Now you also

1041
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: got a factor in Kyler Murray's helmet, which is four

1042
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: ft tall, so that gets into an average height. These

1043
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: all the things you talked about. But when you mention

1044
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: all those receivers, they just can't draft wide receivers. I

1045
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: mean that will remember they drafted three wideouts. You know,

1046
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: two of them don't play in. Isabella is just a

1047
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: spot player, So that's why they go out and they

1048
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: signed They trade for de Hop and they signed Reggie Wayne,

1049
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: so you know, and they're not too short. Green has

1050
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: a better time in a New England. Right, So no

1051
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: but a J. Green. But it's Kyler Murray's not too short.

1052
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: What they were doing was a lot of college stuff.

1053
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: Who got Kyler Murray's butt kicked and that's why he

1054
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: had the shoulder and she was never the same after that. Defensively,

1055
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: they started to come on last year that had a

1056
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: ton of injuries. Look at you, they're gonna have Chandler

1057
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 1: Jones back. Marcus Golden on you know, you talked about

1058
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: a guy who's not talked about enough as a pass rusher.

1059
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: I think J. J. Watt Well, at least by reputation,

1060
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: create a lot of attention to those guys can get free.

1061
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: So I think defensively they're gonna be better to figure

1062
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: out what do I say A Simmons. But here's something

1063
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: to look at. You know, earlier Greg was talking about

1064
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, leadership having hot buds. There's some

1065
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: warm butts down in Arizona. Lift Kingsbury and Steve Kim

1066
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: are not coming into the season, uh with a free pass.

1067
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: I haven't told that the way that they finished last

1068
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: year and the fact that even though they won three

1069
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: more games with they finished did not sit well. That's right.

1070
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: So so we'll see, um, you know, in the toughest

1071
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: division in football, top to bottom, you know how things

1072
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: play out. Greg, we have been hawking about that. I've

1073
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: been saying, I feel like this is he's gonna be

1074
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: high on the hot butt rankings. When when they come

1075
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: out for us on August and you pointed out they

1076
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: have made progress, hasn't been like the progress isn't really

1077
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: the progress necessarily that it impresses you. Now they also

1078
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: have Malcolm Butler, Robert Alfred and Byron Murphy as their

1079
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: top three cornerback. They're gonna be targeting. That's not bad.

1080
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: Bro Alfred's played like two games in two years. They

1081
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: know he's in Atlantic A J Green six four by

1082
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: one months of yess. Hell up next the Los Angeles Rams,

1083
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: Steve Watch and they're probably gonna be coming in and

1084
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm assuming in the top four of Dan Handess group

1085
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: because the Matthew Stafford trade. And this is now, okay,

1086
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, if you are that dude seven who okay, Okay,

1087
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: you're that dude, and you can stretch the field. Okay,

1088
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: we went on, got you too, Sean Jackson stretched the

1089
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: field with him. We've got great underneath receivers. We've got

1090
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: some talented running back with with Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson.

1091
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: The offense of line, how good is it? I mean,

1092
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: you're really managing a lot of guys up there. They

1093
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: feel that they can do something. Aaron Krohmer is gone.

1094
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: They have taken so many hits to great coaches on

1095
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: their staff. Now I overhearm Morris replaces Brandon Staley, but

1096
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: losing rby Pleasant, their defensive backs coach to Detroit is

1097
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: a major hit. Jalen Ramsey will tell you that. So

1098
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: they're great a developing and procuring players, maybe the best

1099
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. So you may see a lot

1100
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: of names on defense that you don't necessarily recognize. They't

1101
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: coach them up. They are masterful so far doing that.

1102
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: But again, everything is gonna hande on Matthew Stafford how

1103
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: quickly he adapts. And if this offense can be new,

1104
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it can it can resemble

1105
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: what they did the Super Bowl years. It has to

1106
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: be different because defenses have caught up right well, and

1107
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: they have to be better than it was a year

1108
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: ago by a lot because the d you can't expect

1109
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: the defense to be where it was. That was a

1110
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: special C sason. They and they and they had Seattle's number,

1111
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: Like that's not gonna repeat in the same way. I

1112
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: just like that that it's being framed as like, well,

1113
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: here's the season we finally learned about Matthew Stafford for

1114
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: the ninth straight season. Like it's like now it's like

1115
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: a new version of it. Next season, it'll be wow.

1116
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: That was his first season adjusting to Los Angeles. Here's

1117
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: this season we finally find that, Yeah, he's not necessarily great,

1118
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: but like definitely good enough to be on a title content.

1119
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: He's gotta be better than that to be worth I

1120
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: think the trade. He's got to be like a top

1121
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: five or six type of That would be my question too,

1122
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: because like it's a severe upgrade over Jared Goff and

1123
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: I love that they were bold and daring and just

1124
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: went for it and they got it done. But Matthew

1125
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: Stafford a lot of things to like, But is he

1126
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: being a little overrated here that they're just gonna plug

1127
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: him into this offense and the Rams are a super

1128
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: Bowl team. I'm fascinated to see it. I don't know,

1129
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I'm excited to see him in

1130
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: a new place. Yeah, I think so. They went to

1131
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Jared Goff a young Jared Goff who

1132
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: a young jear golf that year. It is not as

1133
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: good as Matthew Stafford in an average year. And you

1134
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: guys can battle me with that, but I'll give you that.

1135
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: I think people have now almost underrated golf. Like I

1136
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: saw someone say like, like, you know, he has no

1137
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: armed talent or whatever. It's like Jared Goff has had

1138
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: s crazy It was the giveaways that it was completely

1139
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: I think people are so down on golf that it

1140
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: makes it seem like they have a massive upgrade of

1141
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: epic proportions now. But he was never that last one

1142
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: thing I like from Greg though, is this just complete

1143
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: dismissal Jim Bob Cooter's skills. Jim Bob Cooter, he's there.

1144
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even know he's there off coordinator. He wasn't

1145
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: does not like Cooter? All right? Um, finally, the Seattle Seahawks.

1146
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: Did you know that the Seahawks made just three picks

1147
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: in the entire or draft. That that's that's tough. That's

1148
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: a tough one, um And there's only been five teams

1149
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty seven that have had that those a

1150
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: few amount of picks. UH their first pick fifty six overall,

1151
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: it was a wide receiver, Dwayne Extridge. And that's good

1152
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: because they were a little they were a little thin

1153
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: after DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. But Russell Wilson came

1154
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: out and was, you know, hawking this offseason. I can't

1155
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: get hit so much. There was really no true investment

1156
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: in the offensive line that I saw. Is this just

1157
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: setting the stage for more drama around Seattle where the

1158
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: team might not be better, the offensive line might not

1159
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: be better. Wilson's probably not gonna change his game so

1160
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: to keep getting hit, and this time next year there

1161
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: are another you know, they win ten or eleven games,

1162
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: don't go to the super Bowl, and more bad blood

1163
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: bubbles up. M hm, did they get Gabe Jackson? Did

1164
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: they trade? Did they trade for Gabe Jackson? Yeah? He's

1165
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: on there raft there? Yeah, so, I mean so so

1166
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: they didn't make some avout gave Jackson still a pretty

1167
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: good player, of cards, and you know they've got to

1168
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: get better at guards so they can run the ball.

1169
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: That's what um. You know everything is gonna be set

1170
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: up off the run and they got some pieces. It's

1171
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: just gonna be insing how their new OC Shane Waldron,

1172
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna implement an offense. Now you have every O

1173
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: C slash head coach in this division running the same system.

1174
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: Because Shane Walton comes from McVeigh, right comes every head

1175
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: coach O C is gonna run the same system. So

1176
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be practicing against the same schemes. Nothing is

1177
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna look unfamiliar. So now is when the players, the

1178
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: smart players, are tough players, and the guys who can

1179
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: execute under duress are really gonna shine. And that's where

1180
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gets the nod over any quarterback in this division.

1181
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: But they couldn't figure out the Rams last day. You

1182
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: and I want to talk to some hight truth. There's

1183
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: they're out there in Seattle, or at least in this division.

1184
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: The Rams, i think, believe that Wilson's height was a

1185
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: problem going up against their defensive line, that he could

1186
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: not like that. They muddied it up enough with their

1187
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: big front line and the forty Niners have a very

1188
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: similar approach, and so does Arizona. That in this division,

1189
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: Murray and Wilson like have to be outside of the

1190
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: pocket sometimes to be able to see over the middle.

1191
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: There there were times last year where you where Wilson

1192
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: did not seem like he knew what was going on.

1193
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: It has been totally overlooked how poorly he played the

1194
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: second half of last season. It was like all blamed

1195
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. It was kind of a wild

1196
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: a series of games for Russell Wilson considering the career

1197
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: that he had before that. I mean, DK Metcalf basically

1198
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: said that they had figured out their offense and then

1199
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: so but you have a new offense now, and it's

1200
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: I would just I wonder. I feel like there's so

1201
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: many agitated quarterbacks that it feels like Russell Wilson's agitation

1202
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: was like six months ago. And is that gone? Is

1203
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: that solved? I mean, That's what I'm saying. My whole

1204
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: point is that's all still right underneath the surface. Is

1205
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: going to be their quarterback? What happens after another potentially

1206
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: disappointed season, They don't well be playing for Sean Payton

1207
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: down in the near is good. Wait, we didn't use

1208
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: the final time out. I'm just gonna use it with

1209
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: one second to go, because uh, well, what are we

1210
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: going to get? We just ran that, We ran the

1211
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: hurry up offense, we got to the thirty seven yard line,

1212
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: triple zeros on the clock, and now we're going to

1213
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: the locker room with a time out of our back pocket.

1214
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: A bunch of jackasses. I thought we were taking a

1215
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: time out with two seconds left to let the starters

1216
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: run after off the field after two great performances around

1217
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: the a f C and NFC and everyone just cheers

1218
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: for us, and we we basking in the I guess

1219
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: you could just do that after the game. I mean,

1220
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: if it s nothing, do we need to be taking

1221
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: a time out? And I don't think so. Now that's

1222
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: a fair point. I thought Mark's point was was well served.

1223
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: We're getting more like the NBA here at the NFL,

1224
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: and next season it could be Rogers, Wilson, Watson, who

1225
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: knows who else could be up for in this podcast

1226
01:02:54,640 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: plum X by the Clock. Yeah, Steve, you've said it all.

1227
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about asking about your salary with the Falcons.

1228
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: That was out of bounds. And untoward. But I was

1229
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: just curious and I thought, maybe, no, you like the

1230
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: fact that I said, and I'll say it once again,

1231
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm making more than we all make on our podcasts,

1232
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: which if you're making one dollar, is true. So Steve,

1233
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: Steve is smart, he's you know, he does everything here

1234
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: at the NFL. Now it's time to branch out and

1235
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: do some other things too. It's all about the side hustle,

1236
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: you know. I like Steve Wise, Like I imagine we

1237
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: haven't been to Steve's house yet, wonder where that invites spen,

1238
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: But like I imagine Steve has one of those really

1239
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: nice southern California backyards where he's got the outdoor kitchen

1240
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: set up and he's like a grill maestro. And maybe

1241
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 1: there's like an outdoor grilling show and like the Home

1242
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: Network with Steve and his wonderful wife and all the kids.

1243
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: And it's just like, I don't know, just something, something

1244
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: else to think about as we continue to diversify. Um,

1245
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: what you're about, guys, I'm fifty five, man, I am

1246
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: about the age out of this business. If if not voluntearily,

1247
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: people get you gotta get gone. So I've got to

1248
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: figure something out here. I saw that house once because

1249
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: he drove me home from a RAMS game. I wasn't invited,

1250
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: and then I called an uber from there. But it's

1251
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: a nice house, had a nice looking backyard and nice everything.

1252
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: It was. We talked about getting together as a group,

1253
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: but then you know, it's something called a pandemic struck

1254
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: the country and probably put that on ice for a bit.

1255
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: For some reason, I just had this image of, like,

1256
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: you know the soccer practice where one mom or dad

1257
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: forgets to pick up their kid and then the coach

1258
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: has to drive the kid home and it's really just

1259
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of sad. That was Steve driving Greg back from

1260
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: some RAMS practice. No, no, no, I was being I

1261
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: was being was being a teammate. Help Rosia. Did he

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Speaker 1: help pay for gas? And I'm assuming I would The

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Speaker 1: answer would be yes, that he pitched in. The answer

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Speaker 1: would be it wasn't asked for Mark. He shouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to do that without asking that Greg. That's manners one

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Speaker 1: off a Hamilton's, and that's it. My version of that

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Speaker 1: was insisting he not drive me back to work, that

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Speaker 1: I can take an uber from his house, but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna get me. He was ashamed. He was ashamed, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: drop me three blocks from from the office, just so

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Speaker 1: nobody isn't Greig wearing the same thing he wore last night.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve, thank you so much, buddy, and uh yes,

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Speaker 1: make sure the Huddle and Flow podcast to check that out,

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Speaker 1: give it a listen, Trotter and Steve kill it on

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Speaker 1: that and get amazing guests, um and have really meaningful,

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Speaker 1: interesting fun conversations. Check it out. And the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: gig and everything else. Yeah, top of checking out that

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Speaker 1: preseason how about that. I appreciate you guys. All Right,

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Speaker 1: and there we go, after another week of podcasts on

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Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast. Hope everybody enjoyed it. We

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Speaker 1: love these shows every year. Uh feel really caught up

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Speaker 1: Friday Network shows back Throround the NFL broadcast. Check that

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Speaker 1: out and then next week and other full week of shows.

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Speaker 1: So that's it. This is Dan Hanson signing off for

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Speaker 1: a quiet storm the old Boss, Steve Wise, Ricky Hollywood

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Speaker 1: behind the glass for until today to beat the car