WEBVTT - Does Tiffany Still Have Fans? | MiniPod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.960 Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio and partnership 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:08.920 with Resent Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, all right, everyone, 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.840 welcome home. This is our mini pod for this week. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:15.240 Uh Tip. Every week yields her time for listener questions, 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.079 and we still end up getting a pile up because 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.320 you guys take us in so many different directions. It 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.200 really is like family talking true to form, Nick, you 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.919 not our mute true toiform. We always end up down 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.120 some other roads, so we don't always get to those questions. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:29.920 We're gonna use this mini pod to get to some 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:30.800 of those questions today. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:31.240 Let's roll. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:37.599 The first one, hey, Native Pod people disappoint is to Tiffany. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.560 I think you're really unfair to Abby on the show. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.920 I watch the show every night, and you act as 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.400 if Abby doesn't push back on these people saying this 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.080 wild stuff is conservative. She does it every night. She 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.720 jumps in their ass all the time. I think you're 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.360 really unfair you take you know. 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.720 I think you really need to give her. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.240 Some more respect on how she conducts herself and how 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:05.559 she handles that show. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.959 She's one person with six people for the people talking 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.560 over each other and all that stuff. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.560 And she makes a point to point out when people 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.920 are lying. In addition, I think you know you keep 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.200 saying that the media doesn't do this, doesn't do that. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.560 That's false because the media. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:29.399 Has talked about the Fentanyls not coming through Venezuela's coming 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.760 through Mexico. They point out The New York Times, CNN, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.840 other outlets have done this. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.640 I get your criticism and a lot of it. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.760 You're right because you know it's about the ratings and 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.080 getting the arguments going. But I also think that your 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.760 hyper your your criticism is a little off sometimes, and 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.080 you should you should be really you should you really 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.760 should chill out when it comes to talking about Abby 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.600 because I think you're really off based on that one. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.560 Anyway, Thanks, you're mad about Abby. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.120 Absolutely love Abby, and I think that I think that 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.200 she takes criticism and constructive criticism better than most people. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.120 She hears it all. But I also think, just to 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.720 kind of answer answer buddy question, I think Tiffany got 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.200 smoked for us all. I don't think it's an uneven smoke. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.840 I think she has soak for the co host on 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.040 this show, me and Angela and Andrew. I think she 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.760 has smoked for Abby when it's and I think that 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.359 that is why you that Tiffany Cross posse that you 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.520 got to come up with a name for them appreciate 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.160 you because you're it's not disrespectful. I do want to 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.440 chill on that, but I do think that your criticism 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.400 comes from a place of trying to move journalism further 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.240 in what you perceive that notion to be and a 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.840 common good, And so I don't think it. I don't 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.080 think and I can't speak for Abby either, but I 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.640 don't think anybody believes it comes from a bad place. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.080 A lot of times people just be hating, and I 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.280 don't ever think people say Tiffany Cross is a hater. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.799 So I just wanted to start there. And you may 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.240 have a totally different perspective. You may say, Tiffany that 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.680 I am a hater. It should be my slot x 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.200 I Z. I don't know what you're about to say, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.440 but that's just how I felt about it. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.000 No, thank you for jumping in, and I'll be brief. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.919 I just want to be clear that I don't recall 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.480 saying something on this show, specifically that Abby relatives to 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.800 everyone else is problematic. My criticisms have typically been about 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.320 the networks at large, of which Abby is a representative. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.720 My criticism has also not been to her pushback on 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.320 people who are on the platform. My criticism is having 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.640 the people on the platform. I don't know when it 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:44.680 became journalism to seed our platforms to white supremacists. Furthermore, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.520 I'm so sorry because I know you sent us questions before, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.400 so I don't remember your name. But I think if 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.760 your position is no, the media has for sure met 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.640 this moment, and you feel like they are covering all 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.440 the stories with the proper context, and you may be 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.960 consuming things I don't. That is a place where we 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.640 probably disagree. I could go through incite over the past 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.160 twenty years where I think the media has failed us significantly, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:11.920 But I don't have to do that because I wrote 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.800 a whole book about it. There are three hundred pages 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:15.960 that you can read. If you are curious about specific 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.760 examples of how the media fails, you can google the book. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.479 But it's say it louder. But I will continue to 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.479 be a constant critic of the media, and I would 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.680 dispute your perspective that I'm disrespectful to Abby. None of 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.640 us are beyond reproach, even your criticisms of me, I 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.640 welcome them and thank you for your feedback on how 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.279 you perceive it. But again, I think if your position 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.800 is the media has met this moment and that my 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.279 criticisms are misplaced, I disagree and leave you to that opinion, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.719 but happy to take the next question. Hi Yah. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.960 So first I just want to say to if I 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:01.479 love you in my head, my bff, I think that 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.479 the conversation you guys are having regarding Pop the Balloon. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.839 It's just very hilarious. I absolutely agree. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.520 With u tivity. I think that it's not loving. It 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.320 reminds me of Joning. And I used to always tell 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:21.839 my family, who were the biggest Joners, about how Jonan 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.080 I believe it came from slavery. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:25.919 You know how we believe everything. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:26.480 Comes from slavery. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.000 And the reason why I believe that is because I 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:34.800 believe that they, you know, used to Joan in order 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.400 to toughen us up so that way we could deal 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.960 with the daily traumas that we were dealing with. So 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.960 that's my spill on you know, why not the Jonah. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.960 I think the same thing applies to Pop the Balloon. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.320 I just don't think that it's a loving activity. I 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.920 think there's way better ways for us to use our 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:55.880 time and fight the programming. That's all I wanted to say. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:57.159 Guys, have a good one. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.040 Welcome home, Welcome home, and thank you for sending that in. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.080 And when Angela goes on the show, she's gonna use 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.640 the opportunity to elevate a very important issue to our community. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.520 And I do I actually want to let you comment 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.560 on this to Angela because we've talked about like black culture, 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.840 and you know how we talk to each other, all 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.119 of us, you know, Bacari, we talked about this as well, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.000 and I do think it is our culture. We were 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.640 in Texas and we were pulling into a restaurant that 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.840 kind of looked like a gas station and we were 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.159 just talking about the way that we like basically jone 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.200 on each other, jone on everything, and so when we 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.760 were pulling in, we were like, this is whole gas 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.560 station as a restaurant, Like we do this all the time. Yes, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.040 I think it is part of our culture. I also 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.200 think it's a part of our trauma. And I just 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.320 don't always find it entertaining when we do it amongst 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.159 ourselves and our good spirit. But I don't find insulting 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.440 each other entertaining all the time, not when it's like 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.320 harsh or from a negative place. But I'm sure y'all 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:56.760 have thoughts on all of it too. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.800 Yeah, I I had it was a mechanism for me 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.840 to survive. I mean, I went to I went to 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.960 high school when I was twelve. I had a big head, 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.240 I was skinny, I didn't dress the right way because 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.560 I was coming from private school. And boy, they gave 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.800 me hell when I walked through those doors. And so yeah, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.480 I used to tell people they mama was so fat. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.880 When they jumped in the sky, she got stuck, right, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:19.480 I mean, that. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:19.920 Was just. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.400 That was just that was I had to I had to. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.920 I had to cope, and and you know, it's it was. 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.400 It was a way to But you also realized that 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.400 the people who were really good at it, though, Tiffany, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.160 it was a whit, it was a skill, and a 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.360 lot of those people either they were really bad it 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.040 ended up in a different path, or some of them 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.240 became you know, lawyers that we all know or politicians 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.600 that we all know. Because I know, I know Andrew 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.840 ken Jones is really dry. It is really it's really 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.000 subtle it's subtle. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:52.600 You walk away. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:53.720 Damn I'm bleeding. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:58.400 I didn't even know. Yeah, but you know, I it 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.800 takes discipline because I definitely have that skill, like I 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.480 have an acid tongue and I got something sharp ready 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.480 to go all the time, and it takes discipline to 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.640 be to take a breath, you know, to I mean, 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.520 I think delayed gratification is a part of maturity. So 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.120 I don't need every insult doesn't deserve my response. So 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.840 sometimes I do, you know, like, you know, let me 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.520 breathe and let you have that when I've been on 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.320 many sets, many times where you know, I just have 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.040 to say, I let the audience you know, perceive it 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.320 the way they will because I'm not gonna engage in that. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.400 I don't always win that battle with myself. Sometimes I do, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.640 you know, match energy and let something fly out my 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.000 mouth that I wish. I don't know if that was 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.160 the best way to handle that, but I do. Just 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.240 because you told that fat joke, I do want to say. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.080 I did see a few comments who were offended, and 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.800 I would speak for myself and felt like when I 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.679 was saying bacari, have you ever dated a woman who 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.840 looked like she could cook, and people were offended by that, 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.760 you know, they were like, what's up with the fat shaming? 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.600 Like we don't really find that funny? And I didn't 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.160 even perceive it that way. But it's not up to me. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.600 If somebody else took offense to something I said and 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.719 I wasn't trying some people, if you offend it, I'm like, yeah, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.880 I'm meant to offend you. But on that I didn't 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.560 even realize that I was making fun of people who 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.120 are overweight. I don't consider myself skinny by any means, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.520 so I just want to acknowledge like I saw that. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.560 Can y'all too help me with something please? Yeah, because 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:19.360 I don't see it either sometimes. But what this new culture? 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.600 I think sometimes I have trouble navigating it and other 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.920 people do too, because sometimes what comes out of my 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.480 mouth is just what is in my head, and it 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.440 ain't like a I'm not trying to condemn anybody from 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.680 my heart, because there's enough about me to be condemned 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.160 when I walk through the door. But like, when is 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.440 it okay to laugh? I mean, or how do we 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.160 judge the laugh? Or when do we say it's okay 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.559 to laugh? Or like when can we be jovial or 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.880 when can we say stuff in jest? Or is it 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.679 that we can only do it in certain environments? Because respectfully, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.240 I just don't know the rules anymore, and I don't 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.360 know if I'm the only one who feels that way. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.280 I feel that way. Yeah, I think if it's at 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.880 someone's offense or expense rather and they're offended by it, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.400 I do question sometimes so I am intentional if I 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.640 said something and I'm meant it to be offensive, you know, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.080 if I cause somebody a white supremacist and they offended 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.640 by it, like, well, tough, I meant it to be 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.120 that way. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:18.680 But I don't know. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:23.480 I'm navigating because something else. I'm gonna navigate this carefully. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:29.719 There is also a lot around gender that I'm navigating. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.200 My friends have kids who you know, are of a 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.040 different generation, and if I say he and the person 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.200 doesn't identify as he, like, I get pummeled by these 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.840 twenty somethings you know, or like that is not blool, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.920 you know, And it's like, give me a little grace 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.760 because I'm learning it doesn't cost me anything to address 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.760 you as how you want to be addressed. But give 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.240 me a little grace. I'm trying to navigate this space. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.640 So I hear you, Bakari. I mean, I definitely think 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.920 I'm misstep and I definitely think I've stepped in it 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.959 and said things that are offensive to someone. My typical 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.520 attitude is if I offended you, and it wasn't my 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.760 intention to just apologize and try to course correct. So 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.000 I don't know. I'm trying. I think we're all trying 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:14.520 to figure it out as we got. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:14.520 The worst mouth of us all, and I want to 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.599 hear her response to that, how you navigate with you? 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.800 I got the worst of what the bad mouth, he said, 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.800 I have the worst mouth. I don't know that that's 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:28.880 true always, but I don't know. I think you know 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.000 what I think. I grew up I was very very 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.120 close to my dad's dad, to Gramps, and I grew 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.000 up playing Domino's with my dad and Gramps, and so 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.360 I learned to be quick witted with them, you know, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.520 just in game plan. And then both of my grandfathers 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.840 were like consummate jokers, and I really I didn't even 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.719 like my mom's dad. I was like this dude, I 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.320 don't like him. He always teased me about something. But 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.240 I really don't think I developed thick skin until after 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.160 the sixth grade. We had a whole podcast about it. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.760 So I won't relitigate that, but I will say it 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.719 was a means of survival and it was a defense mechanism. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.880 But also it was funny like we, I mean, we 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.679 used to we joked about is you know somebody sneakers? 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.000 You know, you know what you got on today? Or 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.120 did you get dressed in the dark, or like you know, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.600 I mean it just I mean, that's what we do. 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.839 Is it at somebody's expense? Sure? But also when is 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.079 that acceptable? And I do think we spend a lot 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.760 of time nowadays deepening into cancel culture in ways that 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.360 are not healthy. Like you're constantly walking around on eggshells, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.920 to the point where you may have a thought you're 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.600 afraid to express, and because you're afraid to express the thing, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.920 you don't get to grow, because you know what I'm saying, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.960 Like there's something about that where you know you're so 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:45.080 filtered and so concerned about making sure you don't offend 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.800 that you don't give yourself permission to grow. So I 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.320 do like the idea when you said tip about giving grace, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.160 please give us grace, because I'm definitely confused about all 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.920 of the aspects of gender that exist now not being 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.000 you know, not being binary, and how you want to 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:06.560 be referred to. It's the pronouns will be, he, she, they, them, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.400 and you're going to do all of them. And I'm 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.360 you're supposed to expect So are you telling me all 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.720 of them are okay? I'm supposed to know in which sentence, 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.600 which one to use. That is very confusing. I'm not 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.000 doing it. I'll just call you your name. Hopefully you're fine 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.520 with that today, and even that sometimes changes. So that 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.760 is stressful and frustrating because I do want to get 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.440 it right, but you know, what can we do? Got 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:28.880 to keep. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:40.280 Trying, Pace pace Pace. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.480 Shout out to the Native Land Pod family, thank you 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.640 for welcoming us all home. This is Jim from thirty 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.000 three to content has been on fire recently and we're 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.280 loving the content. How you take a kid the community, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.439 We really appreciate it. My question is for Tiffany made 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:02.480 a various points on last week's excellent show about folks 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:07.640 expanding their news diet and consuming different forms of media 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.040 so you could get a wide array of perspectives on 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.080 topics that you may be interested in, and I'm curious 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.280 to you personally. Where do you go for your daily 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.160 downloads of news, national news, where do you go for 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.800 your downloads of international news? And what else might you 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.160 be reading leisurely. That's something that folks might want to 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:29.680 hear about. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:30.240 Thank you. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:31.440 I love that. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.640 Thank you for the question. So I am still a 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.680 Times reader. I talk a lot of shit about The Times, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.840 but I do read the Times. I think their political 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.680 coverage is often garbage, but their global coverage is actually 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.880 really good. When you read the business section, the technology section, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.440 it often spans the globe. I love it. There's also Reuters, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:54.280 they have great global news ap NPR. Al Jazeera has 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.160 great coverage in terms of print media. In terms of 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.120 what I watch BBC also Al Jazeera if you have 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.320 the app on your smart TV. Al Jazeera does great coverage. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:11.280 Frontline does amazing coverage. I would. I mean, I'm just 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.160 it concerns me so much when people are getting their 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.640 news off social media. I just want to push back 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.120 on that a little bit, because often it's something that's clipped, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.880 it's not the full context, it's and your own the 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.040 algorithm is feeding you something and so very often people 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.440 will see something for thirty seconds or spend you know, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.120 ten minutes reading something and think that they have a 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.240 wide scope of understanding, and it just ain't it. I've 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.760 heard people talk about things that are happening on a 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.480 global scale that they would have more understanding and context, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.880 that they made a habit of consuming these things lately, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.600 and I've even done that. I have read something and 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.160 tried to rush through it and said something that didn't 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.200 make sense or that other people will tell me like 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.360 you were way off base on that, or you you know, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.640 here's another perspective that you didn't have. So I would 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.760 just encouraged having a very wide diet. Oh in the Atlantic, 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.920 How can I forget the Atlantic? The Atlantic is definitely 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.040 the Atlantic. The New Yorker and the Economists, those are 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.040 great for think pieces, but also just really quickly. I 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.920 am also on the email list for almost every think tank, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.000 so every time there's new data, new research that comes out, 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.760 I get that as well. So sometimes it doesn't even 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.400 make they get no coverage. He doesn't even make the press, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.960 but I'm sure to read it. Okay, I know you 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.120 got a lot of questions so quick. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.840 The only the only misstatement I want to correct is 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:36.360 that Philip Lewis on Twitter is a phenomenal follow. Yes, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.720 and he he gets real news from all over the place. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.520 But I hope my guy listens to and and and 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.120 subscribe to his local newspaper. I'm a big fan of 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.119 local journalism. I think the stories that we hear from journalism, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.040 from local journalists are are the best, not not. Your 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.240 local news is okay, like the TV news, but I'm 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.240 really talking about your print papers, because your print papers 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.480 usually have seasoned reporters that can dive in depth on 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:08.320 stories that move your community and your culture. Unfortunately, we're 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.600 starting to see too much mainstream influence on our local 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.240 news stations TV news stations, which drives me crazy. And 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:17.440 the last thing is I mean, if you want to 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.280 get the best news you possibly can, you should tune 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:19.760 in the seeing it. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:22.680 They didn't pay for that, damn bad. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.119 I don't care if I pay you or not. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.679 This is not this is not your podcast, this is 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.920 n LP. They gotta pay for that. They got a 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.760 new digital platform with a new digital budget. I'll cut 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:33.920 that in right out of here. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:40.480 Next question, Hi, my name is a real from the Bronx. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.040 This message is for Tiffany. Yoah, Tiffany, let me tell 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.800 you something. I love your sister, but let me tell 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.879 you something. Sometimes you cannot be like I think you 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.040 are so sensitive. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:55.960 Let me tell you something. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.560 You cannot debate only people that you think is that 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.080 your ever you understand, because sometimes the people that you 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.000 think is not at your lever is the people that 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.639 other people is listening to and getting their information from. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.120 So I would suggest that y'all looking to getting other 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.400 people with different mind frame on your platform, because at 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.080 the end of the day, those are the people that 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.320 you have a lot of people out here listening to. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.239 So I would say, open the mind and open it 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:33.800 to different you know people. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.960 Thank you, thank you Aurel for that question. I'm glad 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.680 we got that question actually, because I think we all 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.439 disagree on this, and I respectfully disagree with Orel. So 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.240 I don't know what he means by on my level 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.000 because I don't. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:47.879 I don't. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:49.960 I don't think I've ever said I want to date 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.040 someone or debate some on Freudian slip. I don't think 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.520 I've ever said I wanted to I don't want to 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.639 debate them on my level. I don't even know what 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.760 that means. But what I have said is I think 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.159 the example I gave if we have a disagreement on 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.919 school choice, you know, you may feel one way, I 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.879 may feel another. Sure, if there is a desire for 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:13.040 me to debate there, okay, great, let's have that. But 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.560 if your position is rooted in my oppression or rooted 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.080 in a lack of humanity, for me, I do not 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:24.159 owe my time or my space to that person, not 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.800 even in service to you or l respectfully, I don't 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.920 think that is a valuable use of time. I would 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.280 never dream to tell somebody else who they should debate 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.480 and who they should have on their platform, or how 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.400 they should use their time. I'm saying for me, I 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.400 don't choose to do that. I don't choose to sit 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.479 across from a white supremacist and debate my humanity. I 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.639 think that is part of the erosion of our society 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.760 that has led us to this space of giving the 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:56.560 microphone to people who haven't earned it and considering hate 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.720 speech of policy position. That's just not something I want 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:00.840 to do. But I want to be really clear, I 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.439 don't know what you mean by on my level, because 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.240 I'm sure people have debated me and I wasn't quote 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.360 unquote on their level. In this week's podcast, we had 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.520 Ellie mistaal so you had Ellie, Angela and Bakari talking 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.439 about things that quite frankly, I'm trying to follow, but 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.199